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05:20.05*** topic/#openembedded is OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and (if applicable) #opie | OE now supplies configure test results, please take a look and start migrating OZ packages over. | Snapshots available at http://treke.net/~bk/
05:20.15kergothibot: wb!
05:20.18It's great to be back!
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05:20.59chouimat|Zzzznight
05:21.04kergothnight chouimat
05:21.41ljpibot: die
05:21.42ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
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05:36.48Martynre tim
05:41.30W8TVIhttp://www.kevinandkell.com/2000/strips/kk20000716.gif
05:41.36W8TVITimRiker!
05:45.45MartynHeh.. I remember that strip
05:46.05MartynThere is another =great= kevin and kell .. where kevin builds a 'hedge' instead of a firewall :}
05:57.52Martynhttp://freshmeat.net/screenshots/21313/ <-- this is why I want to play with GTK+ directFB
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06:05.11TimRikerW8TVI: sup?
06:05.22W8TVInot much
06:05.31W8TVIwhere did ibot and jbot go?
06:06.00TimRikerW8TVI: isp changed my IP while I was out of town (and offline)
06:06.07TimRikerjust cleaning up after it now.
06:06.09W8TVIoh fun...
06:15.16ljphmmm
06:15.47ljpTimRiker: still in Texas?
06:19.41TimRikerwell, in seattle at the moment, but living in texas, yeah.
06:21.22ljpgot the word that TI is looking for more developers
06:23.18TimRikerljp: yep. still hiring.
06:24.11MartynWhat is TI engineering these days?
06:24.28ljpsecret devices
06:24.40ljpthey need qtopia/qte embedded devels
06:24.54Martyn....rrreeeaaaaaallllllllyyy?  -laugh-  
06:25.15MartynWell, plenty of 'em running about.
06:25.31ljphttp://www.qtforum.org/thread.php?threadid=56&sid=c70819a9977f653238401825f622079b
06:25.56ljpthey keep stealing Opie developers
06:26.04MartynLOL
06:26.27MartynThe whole point of working on an open source system .. is to NOT prevent the developers from checking code back INTO Opie :}
06:26.45MartynAlthough, Texas Instruments has never been quick on the Open Source uptake :
06:27.00ljpone step at a time
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09:23.40Twiung'morning
09:23.51Twiunlpotter: was that email ok?
09:24.12lpotteryes.
09:25.02lpotterin the least, it will show interest in it.
09:25.34Twiundefinately...
09:25.47Twiunto be honest, I'd rather not have to complete my qteAWT project ;)
09:25.50lpotterand it did spark some conversations :)
09:26.02TwiunOoooer - what kind of conversations?
09:26.11lpotter:)
09:26.24lpotterstill on going, I am sure.
09:26.48lpotteralthough, a company did pay to develop that
09:27.24Twiunthat's something I wasn't aware of - did they pay for the rights or just for the development?
09:27.34lpotterthey are finding out the status of it
09:27.53lpotternot real sure
09:27.54Twiunthat's nice, at least we'll get a definitive answer
09:28.33lpotteri sounded like it's not dead, just a little inder utilized
09:28.38lpotterunder
09:28.46lpotterit, not I sounded
09:28.56lpotterI need to learn how to type someday
09:29.33TwiunI'm sure you do - I've found that I'm losing my ability to form concrete sentences - I just seem to type garbled junk
09:29.41lpotterI dont know anything about that project
09:30.01lpotterlike - is there even an API out there?
09:30.08TwiunI know a _little_ about it - but 'under utilised' sounds about right
09:30.29Twiunhow do you mean API? a specification or a public release API of QtAWT?
09:31.21Twiunor something that explains what QtAWT actually does?
09:31.29lpotterjust something developers can use to develop apps for/with it
09:32.09Twiunahhh, that's the beauty of the java AWT api.. it makes no difference what the actual native backend is
09:32.28lpotterhmm
09:32.30TwiunQtAWT is an adaptor for Java's AWT to use Qt as the native layer
09:32.49lpotterhmm
09:32.50Twiunso if I have a java app developed to use the AWT, it will work as-is with Qt as the backend
09:33.02lpotterhmmmmm
09:33.17Twiunthat's why I'm qriting my fbAWT project
09:33.22Twiunwriting
09:33.57Twiunit's a framebuffer adapter for AWT
09:34.36Twiunso people would be able to use the java and the AWT gui stuff without X, Qtopia or any other rendering server
09:34.51Twiunbut that's really only useful for kiosk-type applications
09:35.02lpotterhmmmm
09:35.11TwiunQtAWT allows java applications to integrate into Qtopia seamlessly
09:35.28lpotterhmmmmmmmm
09:35.28Twiunand without any code modifications
09:35.35lpotterahhh
09:35.39Twiunlpotter: how's my explanation so far?
09:36.37Twiunlpotter: the API that fbAWT and QtAWT both use to interface to Java's AWT is however pretty much undocumented
09:36.49Twiunlpotter: that's why there aren't that many adapters out there
09:37.16Twiunlpotter: that also makes me a pretty rare developer ;)
09:37.30Twiun(it's what got me headhunted for my next contract)
09:37.34lpotterwoohoo
09:38.07lpottermy laptop power adapter crapped out today ;(
09:38.22Twiunworking on batteries?
09:38.37lpotterbatteries are drained. I am on a new box :)
09:38.46lpotterp4 2.6 gHz
09:39.53Twiunnice :)
09:41.51lpotterya, its a lot faster than a amd 500 laptop
09:42.12Twiunyup
09:43.15yeiazel(it's my future firewall)
09:45.06Twiunhehe
09:45.14Twiunthose old boxes are always useful
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11:37.20Twiunlpotter: I'm badgered to write up an article to explain all this AWT peer backend stuff ;)
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14:20.31chouimatmorning
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14:22.33Twiunhiya chouimat, TMM1
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15:41.14bene_hi. just a little question I am looking for OZ with Opie 1.0 are there any images wich I can use to flash my zaurus 5500?
15:42.38mickeyl_unfortunately not. recommended practice is using oz 3.2 and trying to upgrade. better yet, remove all previous *opie*,*qte*,*qpf* packages prior to installing opie 1.0.x
15:43.09bene_okay thx.
15:43.33treke|home<PROTECTED>
15:43.50treke|homemickeyl_: So how exactly does this merging crap work? :p
15:44.18mickeyl_treke: 4 steps
15:44.27mickeyl_1.) choose a directory you want to merge
15:44.38mickeyl_2.) cvs update -jBRANCH_1_0 -kv -Pd
15:44.47mickeyl_if everything wents fine, ok.
15:44.57mickeyl_if not, you get "rcsmerge: Warning: conflicts during merge"
15:45.02treke|homeDo I need to be in an opie head tree when I do #2?
15:45.05mickeyl_treke: yes
15:45.18mickeyl_treke: then open the file and you'll see the conflict
15:45.28mickeyl_on the top you see the old version
15:45.32mickeyl_then you see a line =============
15:45.35treke|homeWhere should I commit the changes to, and do I need to tag the results
15:45.36mickeyl_then you see the new version
15:45.40treke|homemickeyl_: CVS conflicts I understand :p
15:45.44mickeyl_oh ok
15:45.47mickeyl_no need to tag
15:45.53mickeyl_just commit to head after resolving
15:46.04treke|homeIwas just having a hell of a time with the general merge process. Ever bit of documentation I read said something else :p
15:46.12mickeyl_hehe
15:46.15mickeyl_yeah
15:46.17mickeyl_maybe i'm wrong too
15:46.21mickeyl_but that's how i do it everytime
15:46.23mickeyl_:)
15:46.27treke|homemickeyl_: btw, xxdiff rocks for cvs merging
15:46.32mickeyl_xxdiff ?
15:46.36mickeyl_never heard
15:46.49treke|homemickeyl_: graphical diff program, understands the cvs conflicts
15:46.58kergothtechnically we should probably be tagging the merge point on *both* branches
15:47.07kergothbut since we're trashing cvs anyway, it doesnt really matter
15:47.18mickeyl_kergoth: i tagged in head, but didn't in branch
15:47.21mickeyl_wow!
15:47.24mickeyl_xxdiff
15:47.31treke|homehehe, yeah I was seing a lot of stuff about tagging :)
15:47.33kergothcvs cant manage multiple merges, so you need to track both ends of the merge
15:47.36CosmicPenguinmmmm... xxdiff
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15:47.40kergothotherwise itll bite you later
15:47.50mickeyl_now if anyone could have told to me about xxdiff _before_ i merged  :D
15:47.51CosmicPenguinVery underrated app
15:47.56chouimathi tim
15:48.04treke|homemickeyl_: I'll mark the stuff I've merged on the wiki, make sure it compiled, and commit.
15:48.20mickeyl_treke: great - thanks.
15:48.29mickeyl_so we finally can get rid of BRANCH and CVS
15:48.32mickeyl_can't wait...
15:48.33mickeyl_:)
16:08.43kanowhat is the easier way to submit patches to the packages tree?
16:09.13Twiunuse bk to generate a changeset and email it
16:12.02kanothanks
16:13.26kergothkano: bk help send;
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16:40.16CosmicPenguindoes the Z ship from the factory with a terminal emulator?
16:40.42kergothnope. it does have an ipk of one on the cd though
16:40.43victorvdlCosmicPenguin: 5000d does, 5500 includes it on the cd.
16:41.07kergothyeah, that
16:41.21CosmicPenguinSo techincally, you could toss on a commandline app on the factory rom?
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16:56.20MartynAnyone here have experience querying the linux kernel to find out what the APM status is?
16:56.35mickeyl_you mean... other than.... calling 'apm' ?
16:56.37MartynI need to figure out howto find if a given computer is plugged into A/C
16:56.54Martynyes, I need to do this outside of userspace. if possible
16:56.59Martynan ioctl() would be nice
16:57.13mickeyl_last time i checked ioctl is userspace
16:57.31mickeyl_well
16:58.23Martynfine s/userspace/"avoiding a system call, because there aren't enough resources in the embedded system..."
16:58.31CosmicPenguincat /proc/apm?
16:58.37kergothcant apm show that?
16:58.39kergothyeah
16:59.17trekeCan you even do it without some kind of systemcall ?
16:59.19Martynis there an ioctl that can be used against /proc/apm?
16:59.50Martyntreke "Call to system(), exec(), execvp()"
17:00.56MartynCosmicPenguin: Solved most of the vt switching problem BTW .. will send you patch in email .. works on four systems at home.
17:01.17MartynI tested 8,16,24 .. but don't have any adapters that do 15, or padded 32.
17:01.35Martyn4bit chokes, as does monochrome.
17:03.16CosmicPenguinMartyn: rock on
17:03.23CosmicPenguin4bit chokes anyway
17:03.31kergothMartyn: ioctl? you cant just read() it?
17:03.39kergoththe contents are easily parsable
17:03.47kergothyou can probably get to the info via /dev/apm_bios as well
17:03.53kergothi dont recall what ioctls are available there off the top of my head
17:04.09MartynYeah .. the -patch- is on the order of fscking 34KB.. I may have to split it into some smaller patches for readability.
17:04.22trekeQtopia just reads /proc/apm
17:04.46CosmicPenguin/proc/apm - its fun, its hip, its now
17:05.04CosmicPenguin34kb patch?  Wow
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17:07.04trekemornin X
17:07.11mickeyl_hi XavierXeon
17:07.28XavierXeonhi
17:24.29kergothhmmm
17:27.22Twiunindeed
17:48.18CosmicPenguinThis is probably not hte right room for this, but what the hell?
17:49.06CosmicPenguinIf I wanted to do a straight C app with no graphical component whatsoever for the Z factory rom, I can pull that off without worrying about royalties, right?
17:49.13trekeright
17:49.23CosmicPenguincompilers openly available?
17:49.27trekeas long as you don't touch the qt library you can do what you want
17:49.28victorvdlgcc ;-)
17:49.36CosmicPenguinBeautiful
17:49.39trekeCosmicPenguin: It's just gcc compiled for arm.
17:50.12trekeYou'll probably need to use glibc 2.2.5 unless you know how to make glibc 2.3 ignore the symbol versioning it seems to do
17:50.58CosmicPenguinONe more stupid question - can you set up an icon to call a command line only app?
17:51.27trekeIf you don't need it to spawn a terminal, it should work fine.
17:51.43CosmicPenguinspawning terminals doesn't work?
17:52.01trekeDon't think there is any portable way of doing it
17:52.55CosmicPenguinexcellent
17:53.10CosmicPenguinI tried to talk this guy into OZ, but he wanted the standard Z apps
17:53.58trekeoh well.
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18:09.21kergothaha
18:09.24kergoth"As the current installed base of devfs users can probably all fit into my basement with room to spare
18:09.30kergoth..." -- greg k-h
18:09.34trekehehe
18:09.58trekenever felt the need to go through all the needed shit to make devfs work :p
18:10.05kergothyeah, such a pain
18:10.33trekemaybe I'll play with udev
18:11.15kergothcourse it uses sysfs, so its a 2.6 thing, but i like it alot
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18:20.38DarkSSJhi
18:20.50kanowhen bk commits changesets, and sends them to logging@openlogging.org, will that get back to oe? (sorry, bk newbie)
18:23.00kergothit sends the changeset *logs* there as a part of the bk license
18:23.06kergothit doesnt send content to them
18:23.15kergothbk push/pull send/receive changesets from a remote repository
18:23.23kergothbk send/receive can send/receive changesets via email
18:23.32kergothe.g. bk send -r[changeset #] kergoth@handhelds.org
18:23.37kanoahh right
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18:24.28kergothhey mickeyl
18:24.39pb_hi dudes
18:24.45mickeylhi kergoth
18:24.56mickeylhi pb_
18:34.12kergothhey pb_
18:34.35kergoth12:35 < cdm> Gnome is an exersise for people learning to code, so they can make mistakes and then go get jobs.
18:34.54pb_hah
18:35.11mickeylwhere's that from?
18:35.49kergoth#qnx on freenode
18:35.52kergoth:)
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18:41.28treketry violence
18:41.36kergothspeedy2's filter greatly stabilizes the values, but for some reason the lower the ts pressure the less close to the real position it is
18:41.48kergothit can be off as much as 200 pixels on a light tap
18:41.49kergoth:(
18:50.38mickeylpackage oe's :D
18:50.55kergothheh, i use oe to output rpms for my desktop half hte ti me
18:52.15trekehehe :p
18:53.28trekeoe would be the same problem, too much tedium, not enough mental work :p
18:53.40mickeylmental work...
18:53.47mickeylhow 'bout the rotation patch? :)
18:53.50trekehehe.
18:53.53kergoththat describes anything distro/packaging related alright. too much tedium
18:54.41trekekergoth: yup. At least some oe's require some thought. I'm packaging up php code, so it's pretty much a matter of copy, edit, edit more, build package.
18:56.30kergothoccasionally I like a challenging package.. something you need to really work at to get to crosscompile or something
18:56.37kergothat least then its challenging, if still tedious
18:56.38kergothheh
19:00.12kergothapache 2.0.48 wont build.  m4 picks up a recursion thats over 1024 deep
19:00.20kergothah well, at least 2.0.47 still builds
19:00.30pb_welcome to autofoo
19:01.04kergoth:)
19:01.13kergothi love that one m4 error.. NONE:0: unterminated string
19:01.16kergothso helpful
19:01.40pb_hehe, yah
19:09.30trekeI ought to write a program to package this for me, it's all so horribly well documented in this xml file
19:35.42Twiunre
19:35.43kergothbah, pkgconfig fails to build for the same reason as glib 1.2 (it includes glib 1.2 in its tree)
19:35.47kergothhey Twiun
19:51.01kergothahaha, the gccbot in #offtopic on oftc.. babelize en kr fucking; outputs 'record association'
19:51.12kergoth(babelize translates back adn forth between teh languages until the output stops changing)
19:52.24trekeha
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20:19.11Chickenpatching file Makefile
20:19.11ChickenHunk #1 FAILED at 25.
20:19.11ChickenHunk #2 FAILED at 41.
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20:19.11Chicken3 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej
20:19.13ChickenERROR: package glibc-2.3.2-r0: task do_patch failed
20:19.21mickeylhmm
20:19.29kergothhavent seen that, applies fine here.
20:19.32kergothtry cleaning and rebuilding it
20:19.45Chickenhmm, ok
20:20.06kergothalso, it uses patcher. patcher doesnt allow a patch with rejects to apply
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20:20.10kergothwithout -f
20:20.17kergothso i dunno what you did to cause that changed behavior
20:21.07mickeyloh yeah
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20:21.21mickeylstrange. patcher checks it first by using --dry-run
20:21.24kergothyup
20:21.33Chickenjust a secx
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20:33.09kergothhey Disconnect
20:39.43Disconnectre
20:39.59Disconnecthow's the migration going?
20:43.13kergothnot too bad, been occupied with work things
20:43.30kergothibot: tr de en Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
20:43.40kergoth: I give up, what is it?
20:43.58chouimatkergoth: give me 10 minutes for the translation
20:44.10kergothibot: babelfish de en Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
20:45.31mickeylFile or Directory not found seems more accurate to me
20:45.32mickeyl:D
20:46.45chouimatmickeyl Datei is file?
20:46.53treke"Speak english" seems better to me.
20:46.53mickeylyes
20:47.19chouimatmickeyl: thanks ...
20:47.37chouimatmickeyl: i'm slowly learning german
20:47.56mickeylchouimat: nice. just for fun or is there a special reason?
20:48.02chouimatmickeyl: for fun
20:48.28chouimatmickeyl: to have a reason to spend less time on the computer
20:48.41mickeylwhich is a good thing ...:)
20:50.27chouimatmickeyl: and I also added dutch, danish. norwigian, swedish and finnish to the list
20:50.30ljpibot: tr en de Chouimat has been learning German instead of computers
20:50.34wish i knew, ljp
20:50.59ljpibot: idiot
20:51.01rumour has it, idiot is you
20:51.15ljpibot dratsab
20:51.17ljp: I wish you would RTFM.
20:51.27pb_ibot, I wish you would be more polite.
20:51.28sorry
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20:52.15chouimatljp: and beside it's easier to impress a chick when you tell her that you know: french,english,german etc ... than I know C++, Smalltalk, Python and Ruby ...
20:52.28Disconnectchouimat: you are impressing the wrong chicks ;)
20:52.41ljphehee
20:53.07chouimatDisconnect: I don't want to wake up in the morning arguing about algorythms :)
20:53.17Disconnectchouimat: see above.
20:54.15trekedoes anyone else get pissed off when people randomly add www to the beginning of things
20:54.21Twiunyes
20:54.26treke"Did I fucking say www?"
20:54.32gb2treke: or .com to the end of things
20:55.13chouimatgb2 yup like a tv show here: Dans La Mire .com
20:56.27trekeI also want to kill the person who invented the fucking "remember my password" dialogs
20:57.19chouimatok anybody here who an experience with videolan?
20:57.39Disconnecttreke: for (eg) forums that I plan on hitting once every 3-6 months, its handy. (and in that case, for most people, it stops them reusing passwords) .. but on the other side, you should be able to say 'never remember -for this site-' (or as an admin, 'dont ever remember this form'..)
20:57.42Disconnectala cache control
20:58.28trekeDisconnect: it doesnt stop them from reusing passwords, it just guarantees they have no clue what their password is.
21:00.15Disconnect...and on 99.9% of the sites, thats fine. ("Oh no! Someone changed my home city from Washington to Baltimore! My weather.com page will never be the same!" ...)
21:01.07trekemakes my life a whole lot less pleasent
21:01.14kergothpeople silly enough to use it are probably the ones who write their passwords on paper and slide it under their keyboard
21:01.17kergoth:P
21:01.28Disconnectheh
21:01.46CosmicPenguinOf course, my two co workers are furry and they meow alot
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21:04.06chouimatspeaking of furry coworkers ... I didn't see my cat since I woke up ...
21:05.43chouimatbbl
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21:17.52anderseekergoth: morning
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21:33.04ljpmight help if I made a c700 kernel+modules for c700 and not for c760
21:33.26kergothheh, if you're using buildroot, select the "c750/c760" kernel, it supports corgi fine
21:33.51ljpI know.. but I was trying to flash a c700 with a c760 kernel+moduels
21:34.01ljpit didn;t work
21:34.02kergothhehe
21:34.51ljpthing is, I have been trying to for a whole frickin day, and trying to figure out wtf it isn;t working
21:35.02kergothaha, i hate it when that happens
21:35.05kergothsuch a waste of time
21:35.12ljpsomeone needs to move that ';' over a tad
21:35.19kergothi spent like 4 days last week trying to debug a problem that couldve been fixed with 2 lines of code
21:35.25ljphehee
21:35.38pb_if it's any consolation, I spent the last six months trying to debug a problem that was fixed with one line of code.
21:35.57ljpouch
21:36.04kergothdoh
21:36.23pb_yeah, I felt kind of dumb for a while after that
21:36.25ljpbut for salary per line of code, thats really good
21:37.28pb_true, but it makes me look like a slacker.  0.0059 lines of code per day.
21:37.54trekewas it at least a hard line of code?
21:38.21pb_MDREFR |= 0x02080000;
21:38.22pb_that was it
21:38.31trekeis that a hard one?
21:38.42pb_looks innocuous enough like that.
21:39.15ljpat least it isn't ASM
21:42.19CosmicPenguinDammit
21:42.30CosmicPenguinI picked left unstead of right and lost an entire diff
21:42.59pb_playing some kind of russian roulette with your diffs?
21:43.29ljphehee. thatd be a fun idea for a game
21:44.08Disconnectheh. code up a rng that randomly applies the wrong way, you can send it to linus for use in the kernel ;)
21:44.19ljpcall it Whichdiff
21:44.48Disconnector .. code up a 'diff' thhat randomly copies one file to the other instead of diffing. or prints one file while overwriting it with the diff (tricky.. its fixable, but not easily..)
21:44.50CosmicPenguinxxdiff
21:44.57CosmicPenguinI forgot which file was right and which file was left
21:45.15Disconnectgvimdiff .. safer ;)
21:45.16ljpapplies random lines out of random files instead of from the diff
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21:45.51Disconnectnah, I like the 'overwrite one file with the diff, cat the file to stdout'
21:45.51CosmicPenguinpbcak
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21:47.19ljpdoes this mean no more nigerian spam? http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/30/1067233328496.html
21:47.53CosmicPenguinI'll eat my hat if one guy is responsible for the whole thing... :)
21:48.54ljpthere were more people involved
21:49.49CosmicPenguinGood - because my hat doesn't look very good, no matter how much bbq sauce you put on it
21:49.51pb_hm, I wonder why this ostensibly-bootable CD won't boot my PC.
21:49.53pb_suck
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22:36.57kergothacglib.m4:2: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
22:36.57kergothaclocal.m4:1428: GLIB_IF_VAR_EQ is expanded from...
22:36.57kergothacglib.m4:2: the top level
22:36.57kergothautom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
22:37.00kergothi *hate* that error
22:37.03kergothdamn divert diversion crap
22:37.07kergothautoconf versionism
22:41.13ljpI hate exit status 1 also
22:42.03chouimathi ljp
22:43.48kergothconfigure.in:20: /usr/bin/m4: Non-numeric argument to built-in `divert'
22:43.48kergothautom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
22:43.48kergothautoheader: /home/kergoth/coding/projects/user/oe-metadata/packages/tmp/staging/build/bin/autom4te failed with exit status: 1
22:43.51kergothgrr!
22:45.28pb_"thanks, autom4te!"
22:47.08kergotherr, its using AC_ macros that arent in the documentation
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22:48.31chouimatkergoth: I like my new naming scheme: the name of the female character from Dune :)
22:48.49_Psychowho É
22:48.51_Psycho?
22:49.09chouimat_Psycho?
22:49.13_PsychoAlea ?
22:49.25_Psychothe female in dune, which one did you took ?
22:50.27chouimat_Psycho: alia, irulan, jessica,sheeana,chani,ghanima,siona,murbella,kailea and serenia
22:50.43_Psychoah ok i thought you only took 1 :)
22:50.58_PsychoI like Dune i have all the DVDs, just never read the books ;)
22:51.23chouimat_Psycho: and if i need another subnet: maybe I will take the harkonnens
22:51.37_Psychowhat for anyway ?
22:52.08chouimat_Psycho: for some underpowered computers: like the webpal and co
22:52.29_Psychoah
22:52.43chouimat_Psycho: currently on using irulan :)
22:53.20chouimatspeaking of Dune: I need to finish watching DVD2
22:54.37_Psychothe 2000 version ?
22:54.38_Psychoor so
22:54.39_Psychohehe
22:54.55chouimat_Psycho: yup on 3 DVD and I also bought children
22:55.06ljpmc looks nice on c700
22:55.52_Psychoyeah i have children too, i have som prefere for the 1980 or 83 version thought hehe
22:56.14chouimat_Psycho: nah that version is not the book
22:58.46_Psychochoui yeah well its from the book anyway and its a great movie ;)
22:59.44chouimat_Psycho: yup but Duncan is a main character and you don't see that in the 1984 movie
23:00.16_Psychoyeah but i prefer the character and the movie in general, the scene etc in the 1984 one ;)
23:00.43_Psychoit look better imo :)
23:00.56chouimat_Psycho: it's darker
23:00.57_Psychoin the new version the sand look so damn fake
23:01.30_Psychoanyway
23:01.38chouimat_Psycho: i know ... hmmm 12 parallel compile job on jessica and the load is less than 3
23:03.55kergothacglib.m4:2: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
23:03.55kergothaclocal.m4:1428: GLIB_IF_VAR_EQ is expanded from...
23:03.55kergothacglib.m4:2: the top level
23:03.55kergothautom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
23:03.57kergothdamnit damnit damnit
23:04.16kergoththe only time taht error is mentioned in the  docs is when using an AM_ macro when you should be using the Ac_ version
23:04.22kergoththis is a custom macro, it doesnt apply here :\
23:05.31kergothaha, there we go
23:07.39ljpwhat package contains /var/run and /var/tmp ?
23:08.07kergothin buildroot? oz-base
23:08.09kergothin oe? base-files
23:08.20ljphmmmmm..
23:09.01kergothfinally, fixed the glib 1.2.10 crosscompile
23:09.33ljpcool
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23:16.35kergothOEFILES="`ls */*.oe|grep -v uclibc|grep -v gcc-cross|grep -v binutils-cross`" oemake -a
23:16.38kergothhandy :)
23:16.45kergothgrep out things that break due to multiple provides, and build away
23:30.47gb2kergoth: it'd be nice if multiple provides worked ;)
23:30.53kergothhehe, yeah i know
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23:34.00pb_whoops.  killed X by mistake there.
23:34.33CosmicPenguinThats unusual - usually X kills you
23:34.39CosmicPenguinThis must be soviet russia... :)
23:35.44CosmicPenguinSorry - I'm in a strange mode
23:35.51chouimatmode or mood
23:36.15CosmicPenguinboth
23:36.18CosmicPenguinProbably because of the snow
23:36.33CosmicPenguinOr maybe because Morn is going to write Mono bindings for Nano-X
23:36.34CosmicPenguinEither way
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