| 00:00.01 | kergoth | context |
| 00:00.07 | kergoth | but it doesnt move the approved tag |
| 00:00.10 | kergoth | i have to do it manually |
| 00:00.11 | kergoth | odd |
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| 00:05.50 | kergoth | well, there i have a pre-apply trigger that tags after approval success |
| 00:05.51 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:06.07 | kergoth | course local merge csets will blow that away completely |
| 00:11.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:12.15 | kergoth | doesnt do anything, theres no relation between the two |
| 00:12.28 | kergoth | and even if there was, keeping changes in both ChangeSets would be nearly impossible |
| 00:17.12 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 00:21.45 | kergoth | s/imle/ile/ |
| 00:34.38 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: usually when the regex is more than 3 chars, I just let it slide... :) |
| 00:34.47 | CosmicPenguin | after all - the first and last letter are all you need, right? |
| 00:35.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:35.09 | kergoth | so they say |
| 00:41.24 | Disconnect | s-----w I d--t b----e t--t... |
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| 00:42.05 | noda | Moo! |
| 00:42.07 | kergoth | hey noda |
| 00:46.45 | kergoth | hmmmmm |
| 00:46.49 | kergoth | okay, i have a libqpe repos.. |
| 00:47.03 | kergoth | wonder if we need an opie oeclass |
| 00:47.08 | kergoth | and if so, where we should put it |
| 00:47.35 | kergoth | guess we need osmething like kde's -common dir |
| 00:49.01 | ljp | oyou oalways oadd 'o' oto oall oyour owords onow? |
| 00:49.25 | kergoth | oyes |
| 00:49.30 | noda | orofl |
| 00:50.06 | kergoth | hmmmmm... guess we do need an opie oeclass |
| 00:50.19 | kergoth | needs to rip at the header file to get the versionm |
| 00:50.26 | kergoth | or, we store the version in the .oe, and make the .oe generate the header |
| 00:50.31 | kergoth | guess thatd be cleaner |
| 00:50.41 | chouimat|food | ofuck othat owill obe ohard oon othe otouch oŽoŽ |
| 01:02.30 | ljp | http://www.detnews.com/2003/commuting/0310/26/a01-307303.htm |
| 01:03.06 | ljp | thats cool |
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| 02:09.06 | ljp | treke: I didn't need to use the chhinge thing or rotate when the screen is rotated when its suspended, as the key gets called when it resumes |
| 02:09.36 | ljp | so having it rotate on the key event was all it needed |
| 02:11.31 | kergoth | heh, that doesnt solve the initial boot case, though thats fairly rare |
| 02:11.53 | treke | ljp: oh? cool. |
| 02:12.03 | treke | ljp: That would explain some problems I've seen |
| 02:12.49 | ljp | me too |
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| 03:04.11 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 03:04.14 | samwong | i want to ask where have the cross-compile guide for arm-tools? |
| 03:04.22 | kergoth | hm? |
| 03:04.30 | kergoth | cross-compile guide for arm-tools? |
| 03:05.16 | chouimat|Zzzzz | cross-compiling with arm-tools for dummies won't be out before 2009 |
| 03:09.26 | rombo | is there any way to dev in windows? |
| 03:09.48 | kergoth | cygwin is your friend |
| 03:09.50 | kergoth | works just fine |
| 03:12.51 | samwong | kergoth, yes. coz i compile it but can't run on arm 7 evaluation board. |
| 03:13.10 | kergoth | so talk to whomever supplied you the tools. |
| 03:13.25 | samwong | it give BINFMT_FLAT |
| 03:13.45 | samwong | kergoth, ask the supplier>? |
| 03:14.21 | kergoth | what are 'arm-tools'? who supplied them? did they include support? why ask here? |
| 03:14.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:15.19 | samwong | kergoth, they don't reply my question and just tell me to see the installation guide which not cover the problem |
| 03:15.58 | samwong | it is arm-elf |
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| 03:20.17 | treke|home | hmmm |
| 03:28.03 | ljp | hmmmm*2 |
| 03:29.02 | treke|home | ljp: I just noticed I still have my debian install backed up, so I can trash gentoo tonight |
| 03:30.35 | ljp | hmmm, why would you want that? |
| 03:38.36 | treke|home | Hi OPIE support, |
| 03:39.45 | ljp | email an automated response from Opie Support :) |
| 03:41.58 | kergoth | heh, reminds me of people that go into a channel for a project, and ask if its any good |
| 03:42.09 | kergoth | its not like we're biased or anything |
| 03:42.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:42.23 | kergoth | trolls |
| 03:42.24 | W8TVI | Is openzaurus any good? |
| 03:42.31 | treke|home | W8TVI: It sucks, go away |
| 03:42.33 | kergoth | W8TVI: no, it sucks |
| 03:42.35 | W8TVI | ok |
| 03:42.40 | W8TVI | heh |
| 03:42.50 | treke|home | all os's suck |
| 03:43.06 | treke|home | openzaurus doesn't even suck less |
| 03:45.34 | ljp | embedix doesnt even suck less |
| 03:45.38 | ljp | oh wait |
| 03:45.41 | ljp | yes it does |
| 03:45.45 | treke|home | right, it sucks more |
| 03:48.17 | treke|home | pirate |
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| 04:05.58 | W8TVI | dang it... |
| 04:06.22 | W8TVI | I wish the sd card would stay mounted more than just a few minuit |
| 04:17.15 | kergoth | nice, suprnova has an industrial music section now |
| 04:17.46 | ljp | supernova? |
| 04:17.57 | kergoth | suprnova.org, torrents |
| 04:17.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:18.19 | kergoth | so, did first pass libqpe and libopie bk repositories, with skeleton .oe files that are able to build them |
| 04:18.46 | kergoth | now need a core opie repos with an opie oeclass, and a core opie .oe htat depends on the others |
| 04:19.51 | treke|z | so this isnt a possitive sign, just noticed my backups dont contain a /sbin :p |
| 04:20.43 | ljp | oh, thats ok, GPL isn't enforcable, anyway |
| 04:31.50 | bipolar | kergoth: I just sent those libxine patches to you. |
| 04:31.56 | bipolar | gnight all! |
| 04:32.09 | kergoth | bipolar_ZzZzzz: k, night |
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| 06:22.45 | masticator | yo |
| 06:24.27 | ljp | heh |
| 06:37.53 | W8TVI|z | wow |
| 06:38.07 | W8TVI|z | I got 79 points in the contest |
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| 07:38.24 | treke|home | dammit |
| 07:38.36 | treke|home | debhelper depends on debconf, and debconf depends on debhelper |
| 07:38.38 | treke|home | !!! |
| 07:39.24 | yeiazel | and ? |
| 07:39.31 | yeiazel | apt-get install debhelper debconf |
| 07:39.45 | yeiazel | hm, goto work |
| 07:39.46 | yeiazel | bye |
| 07:39.58 | treke|home | yeiazel: That doesnt work when they are build dependencies :) |
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| 09:07.12 | lpotter | what are we going to do now that the GPL is voided? |
| 09:08.53 | mickeyl | you say that as if it was a fact |
| 09:08.56 | mickeyl | is it? since when? |
| 09:09.42 | lpotter | since I saw it on /. |
| 09:09.44 | lpotter | :) |
| 09:10.29 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 09:10.30 | mickeyl | good thing |
| 09:10.55 | mickeyl | unfortunately since 20 minutes, my work-day has started, so i can't join you ;) |
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| 09:13.05 | lpotter | yes, I know. you all are living in the past. |
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| 10:46.22 | Twiun | mickeyl: not much of a response to last night's emails... everyone on holiday? |
| 10:47.40 | mickeyl | Twiun: good question... no idea. |
| 10:47.47 | mickeyl | Twiun: opie developers are apathic at times :) |
| 10:48.18 | Twiun | mickeyl: indeed, note the long silences in #opie ;) |
| 10:59.00 | lpotter | there were emails last night? ;) |
| 10:59.30 | Twiun | surely you received them? |
| 10:59.43 | lpotter | :D |
| 11:01.40 | Twiun | you did! |
| 11:05.13 | lpotter | what was the email about? |
| 11:06.54 | Twiun | that stuff about standardising the opie dev process |
| 11:10.27 | mickeyl | the silence probably means all agree |
| 11:10.34 | mickeyl | and wait for it to happen ;) |
| 11:13.41 | Twiun | I'll take it as such :) |
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| 14:45.31 | Twiun | you agree too then? |
| 14:45.54 | schurig | :-) |
| 14:46.21 | mickeyl | ;)) |
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| 14:50.05 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:50.23 | schurig | ups, why did the channel in #openembedded change? |
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| 14:50.39 | *** topic/#openembedded by schurig -> OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and |
| 14:50.39 | schurig | (if applicable) #opie | OE now supplies configure test results, please take a look and start migrating OZ packages over. | Snapshots available at |
| 14:50.42 | schurig | http://treke.net/~bk/ |
| 14:50.47 | schurig | ah, multiline. Not my day |
| 14:51.11 | *** topic/#openembedded by treke|home -> OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and (if applicable) #opie | OE now supplies configure test results, please take a look and start migrating OZ packages over. | Snapshots available at http://treke.net/~bk/ |
| 14:51.13 | *** topic/#openembedded by schurig -> OpenEmbedded/OpenZaurus developer lounge | User support in #openzaurus, #openembedded-ipaq, and (if applicable) #opie | OE now supplies configure test results, please take a look and start migrating OZ packages over. | Snapshots available at http://treke.net/~bk/ |
| 14:51.17 | schurig | ahh, better |
| 14:52.03 | schurig | chouimat: moin |
| 14:53.30 | chouimat | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031027193958740 |
| 14:58.30 | Twiun | yeah, interesting read |
| 14:58.36 | Twiun | completely expected though |
| 14:59.30 | chouimat | Twiun http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/ |
| 15:00.12 | Twiun | interesting |
| 15:03.12 | Twiun | chouimat: vnc->adorphuye:5900 |
| 15:03.18 | Twiun | chouimat: fbAWT in action ;) |
| 15:05.18 | chouimat | ip? |
| 15:06.16 | chouimat | Twiun cool |
| 15:06.48 | Twiun | ah yes, adorphuye.com ;) |
| 15:07.02 | chouimat | Twiun: :) |
| 15:07.21 | Twiun | so I can now use VNC as the equivalent of qvfb for Qt |
| 15:07.53 | Twiun | bit on the slow side when used over the net though - faster on the local machine ;) |
| 15:07.55 | treke|home | nifty |
| 15:08.13 | Twiun | Qt and X-less java here we come ;) |
| 15:08.17 | treke|home | What encodings did you implement? |
| 15:08.32 | Twiun | none, I used the VNCj package |
| 15:08.48 | Twiun | no idea what it uses as a default |
| 15:09.50 | treke|home | Raw, RRE, CoRRE and Hextile |
| 15:10.22 | Twiun | knowing my luck, probably Raw |
| 15:10.50 | treke|home | hehe |
| 15:10.59 | treke|home | probably uses a lot of copyrect for that app |
| 15:11.21 | Twiun | indeed... mainly because the VNCj code's incremental mode is broken |
| 15:11.27 | Twiun | so it sends the full frame every time |
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| 15:12.09 | Twiun | that also contributes to the 20% spu usage under windows |
| 15:12.14 | Twiun | s/spu/cpu/ |
| 15:12.33 | Twiun | which I think is due to a badly implemented busy loop |
| 15:13.24 | Twiun | anyway, tonight I'll implement the checkboxes I think |
| 15:13.32 | Twiun | make the test gui a bit more interesting |
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| 15:16.37 | Twiun | urgh... feels sluggish |
| 15:17.56 | Twiun | next on the todo is a list of who's using it remotely ;) |
| 15:17.58 | chouimat | hmmmm I wish he will stop that ... |
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| 15:18.55 | Twiun | stop what? |
| 15:20.37 | chouimat | Twiun: cat + mug of coffee+ me+ stairs ... |
| 15:20.55 | Twiun | ah yes... mine does that too |
| 15:21.08 | Twiun | did that to me last night when I had two glasses of water in my hands |
| 15:21.15 | Twiun | she ended up very wet |
| 15:21.31 | chouimat | Twiun: mine still has is claws |
| 15:21.37 | Twiun | chouimat: same here |
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| 16:13.35 | kergoth | hey chouimat, Twiun, treke|home |
| 16:13.46 | treke | kergoth |
| 16:14.05 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth |
| 16:14.34 | kergoth | ibot: tuesday |
| 16:14.36 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:15.20 | treke | shit, I think I just tried shoving 500 megs worth the data into a printer |
| 16:15.21 | Twiun | kergoth: hey, hey, hey |
| 16:15.41 | W8TVI | ibot: friday |
| 16:15.43 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 16:16.01 | Twiun | treke: dumped a swapfile into it again? |
| 16:16.17 | treke | image. Forgot how big it was when I hit print :p |
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| 16:16.57 | Twiun | treke: full spread of the latest PDA action shot? |
| 16:17.02 | treke | hehe |
| 16:29.35 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 16:35.50 | Twiun | need to attend to its bandwidth usage before I stick it up again ;) |
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| 16:51.34 | Martyn | Hey all. |
| 16:52.08 | Martyn | How do I bind nano-X to a particular /dev/tty? |
| 16:52.45 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a fun one |
| 16:52.46 | kergoth | morning Martyn |
| 16:52.58 | Martyn | Morning CosmicPenguin, kergoth |
| 16:53.28 | Martyn | I'm using inittab to -spawn- nano-X, but it happily occupies whatever virtual term happens to be visible. |
| 16:53.36 | Martyn | ::respawn::nano-X -e |
| 16:53.43 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, it should always grab tty0 |
| 16:53.57 | Martyn | nope .. it grabs whatever happens to be on top of the stack at the moment .. |
| 16:53.58 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a problem; especially for the bootmenu app |
| 16:54.05 | Martyn | yep. |
| 16:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... Interesting. I've always had it grab tty0 |
| 16:54.19 | Martyn | and it's a -real- problem with the backup/restore code I'm running... |
| 16:54.22 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe Greg changed it. Anyway, its a bitch |
| 16:54.41 | CosmicPenguin | So - how responsible do you want to be? |
| 16:55.05 | CosmicPenguin | a) I just want it to work, dammit |
| 16:55.06 | CosmicPenguin | or |
| 16:55.36 | CosmicPenguin | b) I want to make life easier for poor CosmicPenguin |
| 16:55.43 | Martyn | noted in the TODO: |
| 16:55.46 | Twiun | b!, go for b! |
| 16:56.02 | Martyn | TODO:no duplicate /dev/tty0 open |
| 16:56.31 | Martyn | Cosmic : Hey, here I was hoping that getting it to bind to a -particular- tty was already implemented .. funny me :} |
| 16:56.49 | CosmicPenguin | Lemme tell you something about Microwindows |
| 16:57.13 | CosmicPenguin | As long as Greg can make it run on his computer at home, he doesn't care about any other platform |
| 16:57.33 | CosmicPenguin | Thats sad, and thats why MW lags far behind any other graphic engine, but thats the truth |
| 16:57.39 | Martyn | Pity. |
| 16:58.12 | Martyn | That's the same kind of thinking that caused Micah to give up NanoGUI, and countless others to abandon some Pretty Neat Ideas(tm) |
| 16:58.14 | CosmicPenguin | But, thats why I'm here |
| 16:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | I've spent way too much time with MW to let it die |
| 16:58.36 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least, to let it die without a fight |
| 16:58.49 | Martyn | Hm .. well, I //might// go for 'b', iff (yes, I'm using the LOGICAL iff) I can make the time so used work into the current project I'm doing at work. |
| 16:59.00 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, of course |
| 16:59.12 | Martyn | want a --bind /dev/tty? |
| 16:59.16 | Twiun | Martyn: <flamebait>that's why everything should be done in Java</flamebait> |
| 16:59.23 | CosmicPenguin | The whole idea is to allow the user to specify the tty on the command line |
| 16:59.30 | chouimat | Twiun ewww java |
| 16:59.38 | Martyn | Because of that kind of thinking .. I -can't- use Qt. |
| 17:00.08 | Martyn | I've got a nice application written in a mix of c, and c++ ... and interfacing it to qt/e is a bitch |
| 17:00.10 | CosmicPenguin | Martyn: I would like to see something like: ./nano-X <options> tty0 |
| 17:00.24 | Martyn | CosmicPenguin: No promises :} |
| 17:00.32 | Twiun | Martyn: welcome to my world with qteAWT |
| 17:00.36 | Martyn | But I'll see what I can do (read -hack-) |
| 17:00.46 | CosmicPenguin | Martyn: I have to do it eventually if I want to play nice with OE and bootmenu |
| 17:01.06 | CosmicPenguin | Martyn: but anyway - all you need to do is change srvmain.c to allow the user to enter a TTY option |
| 17:02.19 | CosmicPenguin | store the value in a extern variable, and then use that variable in drivers/scr_fb.c:231 instead of hardcoding /dev/tty0 |
| 17:02.29 | CosmicPenguin | That will set the tty of your choice to graphics mode |
| 17:03.49 | Martyn | -hack- |
| 17:03.49 | Martyn | :} |
| 17:06.43 | CosmicPenguin | The "responsible" part is really making it so that the TTY can be specified on the command line |
| 17:06.46 | CosmicPenguin | The rest is childs play |
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| 17:13.12 | Martyn | if I have char *p |
| 17:13.19 | Martyn | and p="6" |
| 17:13.32 | Martyn | atoi(p) should return an int with value "6"? |
| 17:13.38 | Martyn | atoi(p) should return an int with value 6? |
| 17:14.54 | kergoth | yep. though i usually prefer strtol, since it has actual error handling |
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| 17:16.03 | CosmicPenguin | I would just store the whole string |
| 17:16.13 | Martyn | I'd rather it was always valid |
| 17:16.13 | CosmicPenguin | Keeping in mind devfs |
| 17:16.20 | Martyn | Oh --poot-- |
| 17:16.30 | Martyn | devfs is so inconvenient sometimes... |
| 17:16.34 | Martyn | okay, okay |
| 17:16.35 | CosmicPenguin | Ain't open source grand? |
| 17:16.52 | Martyn | how about --tty then? |
| 17:17.07 | CosmicPenguin | If you want |
| 17:17.09 | Martyn | --tty /dev/fb/0 , --tty 0 |
| 17:17.12 | Martyn | that sort of thing |
| 17:17.21 | CosmicPenguin | You should test for the existance of the file anyway, so it really doesn't matter |
| 17:17.53 | CosmicPenguin | I would prefer ./nano-X tty0 personally |
| 17:18.08 | Martyn | no, I -hate- position dependent arguments |
| 17:18.22 | Martyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.25 | CosmicPenguin | Its the last arg.... it either exists, or it doesn't |
| 17:18.43 | Martyn | until someone invents something like --nobuffer tty0 |
| 17:18.54 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, apps like bootmenu will fill in the tty name on the fly, so you should really allow for the full tty device, otherwise it might get messy |
| 17:20.45 | Martyn | then I'll just make tty a char* |
| 17:20.55 | Martyn | char *tty (stuff it with whatever), then make it extern |
| 17:21.21 | CosmicPenguin | works for me |
| 17:21.49 | Martyn | strncpy(tty,argv[t],strlen(argv[t]); |
| 17:21.54 | Martyn | Should work :} |
| 17:22.46 | Martyn | strncpy(tty,argv[t],strlen(argv[t])); .. rather |
| 17:25.02 | gb2 | that's not very safe |
| 17:25.31 | gb2 | that's identical to strcpy(tty, argv[t]); |
| 17:25.37 | Martyn | ACK! |
| 17:25.43 | Martyn | I meant to type : |
| 17:26.05 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone have a problem with just passing the pointer to the arg? |
| 17:26.09 | Martyn | strncpy(tty,argv[t],ARG_MAX) |
| 17:29.00 | Martyn | doesn't work anywayt :} |
| 17:29.44 | CosmicPenguin | damn - stupid bash completion... :) |
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| 17:36.37 | CosmicPenguin | Martyn: you have TEXTMODE enabled, right? |
| 17:39.37 | Martyn | yep |
| 17:39.58 | Martyn | Okay .. what the HECK am I doing wrong here.. |
| 17:40.10 | Martyn | in srvmain.c, I'm declaring char tty[255]; |
| 17:40.37 | Martyn | in scr_fb.c, I'm declaring extern char tty[255]; |
| 17:41.01 | CosmicPenguin | Thats it - extern char *tty; |
| 17:41.11 | Martyn | scr_fb.c: In function `fb_open': |
| 17:41.11 | Martyn | scr_fb.c:231: warning: passing arg 1 of `open' makes pointer from integer without a cast |
| 17:42.09 | Martyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.14 | Martyn | oh .. crap |
| 17:42.22 | Martyn | ----SIGH---- |
| 17:43.43 | Martyn | fixed |
| 17:43.51 | Martyn | variable renamed to "cmdtty" |
| 18:04.53 | CosmicPenguin | Martyn: don't forget to e-mail me that patch |
| 18:04.55 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: CosmicPenguin |
| 18:04.57 | | i guess cosmicpenguin is Jordan Crouse or jordan@cosmicpenguin.net |
| 18:06.15 | Martyn | CosmicPenguin: Patch doesn't work yet |
| 18:06.24 | Martyn | Something's not getting passed between srvmain.c and the driver |
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| 18:09.10 | Martyn | Well, well, well .. look what's inside. |
| 18:10.56 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not the right code, you know |
| 18:11.03 | Martyn | I know :} |
| 18:11.20 | Martyn | I was just wondering how nano-X figured out where the darned fb was :} |
| 18:11.39 | Martyn | I'm going to add a similar trick for the tty's as well .. to allow the tty to be set as a kernel param |
| 18:11.45 | CosmicPenguin | Eh? |
| 18:11.57 | CosmicPenguin | The FRAMEBUFFER is how X works as well |
| 18:12.11 | Martyn | getenv(NANOTTY) :} |
| 18:12.20 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - thats not a kernel param, thats an environment param |
| 18:12.47 | CosmicPenguin | Thats ok, but I would add it to the command line arguments as well - otherwise, it will be damn hard to set in an inittab |
| 18:13.36 | Martyn | Sure :} |
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| 18:25.19 | Martyn | Damn .. now I'm getting "cannot initialize keyboard" errors |
| 18:26.58 | CosmicPenguin | That needs to be set in a completely different location |
| 18:27.09 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... perhaps the values should be the same? |
| 18:27.38 | Martyn | dunno |
| 18:28.01 | Martyn | Where does Greg hang out? |
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| 18:36.15 | CosmicPenguin | Greg hang out? |
| 18:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | IT is to laugh |
| 18:36.36 | Martyn | Aha! You're alive! |
| 18:36.38 | Martyn | -grin= |
| 18:37.00 | Martyn | I don't know about laugh .. however it would be nice to have a dialog. |
| 18:38.25 | CosmicPenguin | I'm your best dialog |
| 18:38.33 | CosmicPenguin | I talk to Greg occassionally |
| 18:38.36 | CosmicPenguin | Though I guess you could e-mail him |
| 18:45.05 | Martyn | Sp that I don't have to re-untar the source.. |
| 18:45.27 | Martyn | what /dev is being opened in scr_fb.c 231:25? |
| 18:46.55 | CosmicPenguin | tty0 |
| 18:47.04 | Martyn | Hmm ... WEIERD |
| 18:47.10 | Martyn | when I hard-code it .. everything works |
| 18:47.23 | Martyn | when I pass it in, as /dev/tty0 .. everything works |
| 18:47.30 | Martyn | if I pass in -anything- else, everything goes to hell |
| 18:48.05 | CosmicPenguin | So lemme get this straight |
| 18:48.12 | CosmicPenguin | open("/dev/tty1" ...) works |
| 18:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | open(tty...) when tty is "tty0" works |
| 18:48.23 | Martyn | Nope |
| 18:48.30 | CosmicPenguin | No? What happens? |
| 18:48.34 | Martyn | open ("/dev/tty0",... works |
| 18:48.49 | Martyn | open (cmdtty,... works when cmdtty = "/dev/tty0" |
| 18:48.54 | CosmicPenguin | You're going to make me drag out my laptop, right? |
| 18:48.54 | Martyn | anything else, kaboom |
| 18:49.12 | Martyn | Only if you want to :} |
| 18:49.12 | kergoth | what errno? |
| 18:49.13 | Martyn | -laugh- |
| 18:49.21 | Martyn | SIGSEV |
| 18:49.46 | kergoth | fun |
| 18:49.57 | CosmicPenguin | I don't run fb on my main system |
| 18:49.59 | Martyn | ever so |
| 18:50.04 | Martyn | Neither do I |
| 18:50.10 | Martyn | I run four nVidia cards |
| 18:50.33 | Martyn | One dual to run the LCD's |
| 18:50.56 | Martyn | two PCI singles (to run the side CRT's) |
| 18:51.07 | Martyn | and one last one, which I leave in textmode while tracing |
| 18:51.22 | Martyn | None of them in framebuffer mode. |
| 18:51.44 | Martyn | (and if I could find one of those @#$@#$ PCI hercules cards, I'd use that.) |
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| 19:01.32 | Martyn | GAH |
| 19:01.47 | Martyn | okay .. there must be another hard-coded value in there .. somewhere |
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| 20:02.00 | lpotter_ | hmmm.. |
| 20:05.09 | treke | pb |
| 20:05.44 | lpotter_ | anyway to not run patches, like for qte, in oe? |
| 20:08.23 | treke | nope |
| 20:08.38 | lpotter_ | thats silly |
| 20:08.53 | lpotter_ | so oe needs two qte packages |
| 20:09.28 | lpotter_ | redundancy |
| 20:09.36 | treke | Not much redundancy. |
| 20:09.40 | pb_ | why do you sometimes want to not apply the patches? |
| 20:09.55 | lpotter_ | heh. having 2 packages of the same thing is not redunandt? |
| 20:10.01 | treke | lpotter_: take a look at libtool-native |
| 20:10.10 | lpotter_ | qtopia doesnt want or need opies qte patches |
| 20:10.12 | treke | they aren't the same thing, one is a patched version and one isnt :) |
| 20:10.31 | pb_ | lpotter_: if you're starting from different source, sounds like it should indeed be a different package |
| 20:10.51 | lpotter_ | same source. different patches. there should be a way to not apply patches |
| 20:11.02 | lpotter_ | IMHO |
| 20:11.13 | pb_ | well, sounds more like the patches should be changed so that you could turn them off at configure time. |
| 20:11.28 | pb_ | if these are policy-type patches. |
| 20:11.42 | treke | functionality stuff also |
| 20:12.43 | treke | pb_: think of it like hh.o's libgtk1.2 vs stock libgtk1.2 |
| 20:13.34 | pb_ | I think the libgtk1.2 stuff should definitely be --configure options, or even better runtime. |
| 20:13.58 | pb_ | actually, most of it is done that way in libgtk2.0 now. |
| 20:14.22 | pb_ | the "squashing" functionality is turned on by style properties in the gpe theme. |
| 20:14.32 | treke | lpotter_: Just create a base qte oe and import and override as needed |
| 20:14.34 | lpotter_ | there should be _some_ way of not applying a patch. in buildroot you just edit th eMakefile |
| 20:14.51 | kergoth | exactly. just share a core .oe. easy enough |
| 20:14.58 | kergoth | or modify SRC_URI in the .oe directly |
| 20:15.23 | lpotter_ | ahh. very well, then |
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| 20:16.12 | lpotter_ | is there a way ti 'ifdef' stuff in ie, like buildroot? |
| 20:16.19 | lpotter_ | to, not ti |
| 20:16.35 | treke | lpotter_: making the new oe is much cleaner :) |
| 20:16.55 | treke | the ifdefs for buildroots qte is just nasty |
| 20:17.00 | kergoth | lpotter_: have you actually *used* OE? |
| 20:17.09 | kergoth | i recommend using it before asking silly questions |
| 20:17.27 | lpotter_ | no. just starting. :) thats why I am asking |
| 20:17.53 | collord | no offense, but it has a steeper initial learning curve than buildroot |
| 20:18.01 | kergoth | eh? |
| 20:18.07 | kergoth | the .oe file format is incredibly simple |
| 20:18.12 | kergoth | and all the commands have --help |
| 20:18.17 | lpotter_ | you guys just have some weird phobia about ifdefs |
| 20:18.19 | kergoth | i dont see where the steepness comes frmo |
| 20:19.25 | lpotter_ | learning curve doesnt matter to me, as long as oe isn't as finnicky as buildroot |
| 20:34.02 | kergoth | i hate it when post-calibration gives me negative ts values |
| 20:34.07 | kergoth | x -35 isnt very helpful |
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| 21:05.08 | Twiun | rehi folks |
| 21:05.34 | kergoth | hey Twiun |
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| 21:24.10 | gb2 | wonder if this CME is going to cause any big effects |
| 21:24.40 | mickeyl | CME? |
| 21:24.49 | gb2 | coronal mass ejection |
| 21:24.55 | mickeyl | oh |
| 21:25.05 | gb2 | the third largest solar flare on record occured this morning |
| 21:25.20 | gb2 | and the mass ejection is headed toward earth |
| 21:25.53 | gb2 | the two larger ones, one caused massive blackouts in '89, the other wasn't pointed toward earth. |
| 21:49.27 | ljp | grabs |
| 21:49.31 | ljp | bleh |
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| 21:58.41 | mickeyl | http://opie.net.wox.org/old/test.html |
| 22:02.53 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:03.47 | kergoth`food | mickeyl: did initial pass libqpe and libopie bk repositories, with skeleton .oe files that seem to work |
| 22:04.06 | ljp | was I supposed to merge advancedfm for 1.0 into head? or vice versa? |
| 22:04.39 | ljp | kergoth`food: now just add all the opie devs ssh keys |
| 22:04.46 | mickeyl | kergoth`food: cool! pushed yet? |
| 22:05.03 | mickeyl | ljp: merge the bugfixes done in BRANCH to HEAD. because BRANCH is dead. |
| 22:05.13 | kergoth`food | bk import -tCVS rocks |
| 22:05.15 | kergoth`food | :) |
| 22:05.18 | mickeyl | ljp: and when you're there... please also in opierc |
| 22:05.20 | mickeyl | opierec even |
| 22:05.27 | mickeyl | bk import? |
| 22:05.29 | mickeyl | nice |
| 22:05.35 | kergoth`food | it keeps all the cvs commit messages |
| 22:05.39 | kergoth`food | no history loss |
| 22:05.42 | kergoth`food | can even do Attic processing |
| 22:05.51 | ljp | hmm. opierec |
| 22:06.18 | kergoth`food | mickeyl: thinking opie.bkbits.net, possibly opie-devel.bkbits.net, and opie-contrib.bkbits.net |
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| 22:06.52 | mickeyl | kergoth`food: yeah sounds good to me. opie.bkbits.net however contains a bit of stuff which rather should go into opie-devel then... |
| 22:07.03 | kergoth`food | i know |
| 22:07.05 | mickeyl | (basically everything) |
| 22:07.06 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:07.13 | kergoth`food | i'm laying out flowcharts for the changeset flow now |
| 22:07.28 | mickeyl | pretty cool. sounds like a fresh new start in developing. |
| 22:07.36 | mickeyl | at least in the workflow |
| 22:07.44 | kergoth`food | yep |
| 22:07.46 | mickeyl | which would be quite an achievement for us :D |
| 22:07.55 | kergoth`food | oh, i seem to be unable to get into opie.bkbits.net either as opie or opie.adm |
| 22:08.16 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:08.18 | mickeyl | changed keys? |
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| 22:08.27 | kergoth`food | nope, can still get into handhelds.org and others |
| 22:08.45 | kergoth`food | hmm |
| 22:08.46 | kergoth`food | odd |
| 22:09.02 | ljp | down? |
| 22:09.14 | mickeyl | opie>> lk |
| 22:09.14 | mickeyl | Admin SSH public keys are: |
| 22:09.14 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.14 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.14 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.15 | mickeyl | User SSH public keys are: |
| 22:09.17 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.19 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.21 | chouimat | re |
| 22:10.04 | kergoth | err thats odd |
| 22:10.07 | mickeyl | kergoth: /query me your ssh key and I try to add it again. maybe i did something wrong last time |
| 22:10.10 | kergoth | oemx is a ssh v2 dsa key :) |
| 22:10.13 | kergoth | thatd explain that |
| 22:10.15 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 22:10.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:10.18 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:10.33 | kergoth | err no, the v1 key is that hostname too |
| 22:10.34 | kergoth | hm |
| 22:11.42 | mickeyl | kergoth: done. try again |
| 22:12.02 | W8TVI | kergoth'full? |
| 22:12.12 | kergoth | yep. now subject to a food coma |
| 22:12.16 | W8TVI | heh |
| 22:13.45 | W8TVI | brb |
| 22:20.56 | W8TVI | why wont it keep the ssid for my ap? |
| 22:21.03 | W8TVI | it keeps going back to "" |
| 22:21.18 | kergoth | it doesnt like you |
| 22:22.17 | ljp | you are misspelling it, and it has an autospellchecking |
| 22:35.07 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:35.19 | chouimat | night mickey|zzZZzz |
| 22:35.22 | chouimat | hey ljp |
| 22:39.16 | ljp | yo |
| 22:43.02 | W8TVI | http://www.kevinandkell.com |
| 22:43.38 | ljp | one of my favorite musical artists killed himself last week - Elliott Smith - stabbed himself in the heart |
| 22:43.51 | chouimat | ljp ouch ... |
| 22:45.06 | ljp | ya, painful |
| 22:46.07 | chouimat | ljp: I found a nice German band last week |
| 22:46.13 | treke | Stabbed himself in the heart? |
| 22:46.44 | ljp | german band? |
| 22:46.53 | ljp | ya. found by his g-friend |
| 22:47.30 | chouimat | ljp a band called Elis ... heavy metal with a chick with big boobs and a nice voice |
| 22:53.02 | ljp | hmm |
| 22:53.11 | chouimat | hmmm I think shoutcast.com have a problem I ask for metal station and I get Christina Aguilera ... |
| 22:53.52 | ljp | heh |
| 22:54.11 | ljp | she likes metal in her thang |
| 22:54.42 | chouimat | hehe |
| 23:04.25 | collord | has anyone played with the snapgear buildroot? |
| 23:05.20 | Twiun | no... do you have a link? |
| 23:16.56 | ljp | snapgear.com |
| 23:17.34 | collord | yeah sorry. |
| 23:17.54 | collord | http://www.snapgear.org/downloads.html |
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| 23:34.48 | chouimat | wb CosmicPenguin |
| 23:38.06 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: thanks |
| 23:42.45 | chouimat | http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/lp/lasdiag/enterp.shtml |
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| 23:49.14 | dfgsdgf | has any1 go OE running on zaurus5600 (poodle) |
| 23:49.22 | treke | no. |
| 23:50.15 | ljp | not yet |
| 23:53.39 | dfgsdgf | is there an estimated release date :) ? |
| 23:54.34 | kergoth | no |
| 23:54.38 | CosmicPenguin | Its a roling release date perpetually set to two weeks from next thursday |
| 23:54.55 | dfgsdgf | is it possible to use the sharp camera ag06 with oz on 5600 |
| 23:55.18 | kergoth | get the driver from sharp, then yes |