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| 00:40.26 | _Psycho | ah finnaly ! after 4 libs compile it seem to work :) |
| 00:40.36 | _Psycho | for now |
| 00:46.02 | chouimat | http://www.askmen.com/jokes/index.html |
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| 01:45.16 | W8TVI|z | I hate it when some one thinks they need to cheat in a online game |
| 01:48.08 | W8TVI|z | come back |
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| 01:55.53 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: yup it rocks |
| 03:00.07 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: good stuff eh |
| 03:00.10 | _Psycho | hey treke im almost done :) Only thing left is that scummvm seek for a SDL-CDxxxx that i didnt included i check tomorow ;) |
| 03:00.20 | _Psycho | thanks for the help and ljp too for qtopia stuff :) |
| 03:03.14 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: yup currently watching the Whole nine yard on tv ... amanda peet has very nice boobs |
| 03:03.54 | TheMasterMind1 | oh yea |
| 03:04.14 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: and they will release the Whole ten yards next year :) |
| 03:05.54 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i was just looking at that |
| 03:18.28 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: I didn't knew that Natasha Henstridge was 6 months younger than me |
| 03:44.02 | chouimat | night |
| 03:45.34 | treke|home | They are releasing a sequal to that? |
| 03:45.44 | treke|home | That's one of those movies you just don't make a sequal of |
| 04:06.20 | gb2 | treke: New Line is seriously considering Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash |
| 04:06.29 | gb2 | (an Evil Dead 4) |
| 04:06.59 | gb2 | (in the realm of fucked up sequels) |
| 04:16.07 | treke|home | gb2: ack |
| 04:16.31 | treke|home | gb2: I thought Freddy vs Jason was a bad enough idea |
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| 04:45.14 | kergoth | gb2: ack |
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| 05:12.50 | treke|home | kergoth: You heard from jason lately? |
| 05:13.06 | kergoth | nah not in a while |
| 05:13.36 | kergoth | well, 'while' is relative. not in the past week or so |
| 05:13.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:13.47 | treke|home | hehe |
| 05:14.18 | treke|home | I was thinking more along the lines of the past couple months |
| 05:14.23 | treke|home | so that sounds like a yes :) |
| 05:14.30 | kergoth | ah. yeah then |
| 05:14.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:17.27 | ljp | seems like he gave up on zaurus' |
| 05:18.21 | kergoth | treke|home: yeah, he was in here 8 days ago according to ibot. heh. |
| 05:18.44 | kergoth | ljp: who hasnt? |
| 05:18.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:19.50 | ljp | me |
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| 08:17.13 | lpotter | hmmm |
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| 08:41.10 | Twiun | mornin' all |
| 09:03.01 | Twiun | which also happens to not be www.bitmover.com |
| 09:03.08 | tronical | www.titmovers.com? |
| 09:03.15 | tronical | oh :) |
| 09:04.45 | Twiun | hehe |
| 09:05.02 | Twiun | just the person I was thinking about |
| 09:05.27 | Twiun | do you have any experience of konqueror and things like the java plugin? |
| 09:05.57 | tronical | neither with the desktop nor the embedded hack :) - I avoid java plugins for the sake of memory :) |
| 09:06.18 | tronical | (well, I know how it's done on x11, but that's it) |
| 09:07.59 | Twiun | I'm asking because Kaffe's AWT support is soon going to be sufficient to make it usable as a plugin |
| 09:10.40 | tronical | hmmm, in theory it might not be that difficult to implement then. the khtml side of the java stuff is just a bit java code that, executed as separate process, talks to the browser via stdin/stdout. it could pass around the region to paint into and then paint into the fb right away |
| 09:11.17 | tronical | hmm, ok, skipt the 'not to be that difficult' :) |
| 09:11.19 | tronical | skipt=skip |
| 09:11.26 | Twiun | yeah - I didn't realise std streams were used for io |
| 09:25.53 | Twiun | so, why skip that 'not difficult' bit? |
| 09:26.27 | Twiun | granted, I hadn't considered the javascript<->applet link |
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| 10:04.25 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11twiun@tangency.co.uk |
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| 10:10.00 | Twiun | hiya mithro |
| 10:10.00 | lpotter | foo |
| 10:10.04 | Twiun | bar |
| 10:10.19 | lpotter | I lost my dongle |
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| 10:10.56 | Twiun | sounds painful |
| 10:11.05 | Twiun | mickey_at_home: good morning |
| 10:11.10 | lpotter | it is. now I have to buy a replacement |
| 10:11.14 | mickey_at_home | morning Twiun |
| 10:11.15 | mickey_at_home | hi |
| 10:11.32 | lpotter | mickey! |
| 10:11.48 | mickey_at_home | yeah |
| 10:11.50 | lpotter | I'm afraid it's not morning, though |
| 10:11.53 | mickey_at_home | hehe |
| 10:12.01 | mickey_at_home | lpotter: you're late, aren't you? |
| 10:12.14 | mickey_at_home | isn'it in the middle of the night in .au ? |
| 10:12.18 | lpotter | I'm got computer/internet at home now! |
| 10:12.25 | lpotter | 20:12 |
| 10:12.26 | mickey_at_home | ah congrats :) |
| 10:13.49 | lpotter | :D |
| 10:14.03 | mithro | hey Twiun |
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| 13:20.03 | Twiun | hiya schurig |
| 13:34.21 | schurig | Twiun: hi! |
| 13:35.31 | Twiun | long time no see ;) |
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| 13:36.05 | schurig | Twiun: yeah, you're rigth. I'm not online most of the time. Makes me more productive :-) |
| 13:37.53 | Twiun | If that's your aim ;) I'm very happy being online... motivation is a big problem for me atm |
| 13:53.55 | Twiun | I don't really want motivation for my paid work ;) |
| 13:54.03 | Twiun | I've got enough for my open source stuff |
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| 14:30.51 | treke|home | morning neo |
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| 15:10.43 | icefox_work | itch itch itch |
| 15:11.54 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:24.53 | Twiun | hey treke |
| 15:24.58 | treke | yo |
| 15:25.05 | Twiun | when did you send your building buildroot email? |
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| 15:26.27 | treke | this morning |
| 15:26.38 | treke | before driving in to work |
| 15:27.07 | Twiun | 4, 5 hours ago? |
| 15:27.23 | treke | 1 hour ago |
| 15:27.24 | chouimat | arrrgggg -1C |
| 15:27.42 | Twiun | treke: I sent my response 5 hours ago - saying I'd fixed the buildroot makefile... |
| 15:27.51 | Twiun | treke: it still hasn't propagated through sf |
| 15:30.22 | treke | Twiun: I received it |
| 15:30.53 | treke | dunno |
| 15:30.54 | Twiun | treke: I _usually_ get my own posts |
| 15:37.18 | Twiun | OMFG |
| 15:37.50 | Twiun | talk about complete bollocks in the source code |
| 15:38.23 | Twiun | we've got a calendar control, using a text grid component.... which uses an array of Label components, one for each cell |
| 15:40.18 | Twiun | talk about !lightweight |
| 15:41.21 | treke | fun |
| 15:42.53 | Twiun | yeah |
| 15:58.14 | treke | urm, shit |
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| 15:59.13 | treke | kergoth: gonna try disabling your fb rotation patch on husky and see if things work better |
| 15:59.24 | treke | kergoth: I have a funny feeling it might :p |
| 15:59.39 | kergoth | my fb rotation patch? |
| 15:59.54 | treke | kergoth: The one for rotating the console |
| 16:00.19 | chouimat | hi kergoth treke |
| 16:00.41 | treke | chouimat: morning |
| 16:01.04 | kergoth | i have a fb rotation patch for husky? |
| 16:01.21 | treke | kergoth: There is an option in the config for it |
| 16:03.12 | treke | I was guessing it was your patch |
| 16:04.38 | kergoth | fb rotation is generally part of the embedix patch, came from lineo |
| 16:04.54 | treke | ah. Thought you had written one |
| 16:05.20 | kergoth | nah, was planning on cleaning it up since the ipaq folks might want right side up boot messages, but never got around to it |
| 16:05.44 | treke | the ipaq folks just fixed their lcds :p |
| 16:05.49 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 16:29.52 | schurig | kergoth: you have a fb rotation patch? Is is the same as fb_kopfstand.patch in OZ/packages/kernel-ramses ? |
| 16:29.58 | schurig | or it it better? :-) |
| 16:30.20 | chouimat | hi schurig |
| 16:30.46 | schurig | chouimat: hi! |
| 16:31.09 | schurig | kergoth: ok, nevermind, it's not the same. I should read the full IRC log before reading questions ... |
| 16:31.13 | kergoth | schurig: no, i dont. treke was mistaken |
| 16:31.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:32.18 | schurig | didn't knew that Lineo already made this. He had to rotate the console FB, too. So a collegue of mine wrote this patch. Hmm, and now I would like to have one that rotates 90 degrees and not just 180 ... |
| 16:33.55 | kergoth | lineo's has just 270 and 90 iirc. |
| 16:34.04 | kergoth | been a while since i looked at the embedix stuff |
| 16:34.30 | treke | damn it. that didnt have any effect |
| 16:34.45 | Neo|Work | du |
| 16:34.47 | Neo|Work | oop |
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| 17:54.48 | pb_ | hope we aren't keeping you awake. |
| 17:55.14 | treke | I hope we are |
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| 20:54.02 | lpotter | 7 years of kde, eh |
| 20:54.51 | treke | can't believe it's been around that long |
| 20:55.17 | lpotter | read Mattias announcement |
| 20:55.42 | lpotter | "his stuff is called Qt" |
| 20:55.47 | lpotter | this |
| 21:04.36 | kergoth | and deviceisms |
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| 21:56.58 | kergoth | hm, this is a long list |
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| 22:15.57 | treke | maybe the list could get shorter if we had a way of implementing them :p |
| 22:16.26 | pb_ | I guess we'll never know. |
| 22:27.49 | kergoth | pb_: heh, its easy enough to tell strace that waitpid isnt implemented, but it actually calls the waitpid() function in two places |
| 22:29.06 | pb_ | that's ok, libc implements waitpid() using wait4. |
| 22:30.16 | kergoth | yeah, guess the only prob was the sys_waitpid reference in syscallent |
| 22:30.26 | kergoth | hah, they have 'generate syscallent.h from asm/unistd.h in kernel' in their todo |
| 22:30.31 | kergoth | well good to know they're going to fix that |
| 22:30.36 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:31.58 | treke | funny |
| 22:47.54 | stigger | does anyone know how the vfat-modules ipk is built in buildroot |
| 22:48.57 | stigger | every time I try to make a image it complains that vfat-modules is missing |
| 22:49.25 | treke | It isnt built in buildroot |
| 22:49.40 | treke | edit the packages file and remove references to vfat-modules |
| 22:50.21 | stigger | ok but ? why is it a dependancy of the kernel? |
| 22:50.37 | kergoth | because the kernel package building script doesnt realize that package was empty |
| 22:50.45 | kergoth | inter module package dependencies arent handled well |
| 22:51.07 | treke | stigger: it's a bug |
| 22:51.10 | stigger | ok |
| 22:51.14 | stigger | thanks |
| 22:51.38 | kergoth | there we go, 4 line fix for strace |
| 23:03.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:05.31 | treke | kergoth: so I hear that tkc closed their mailing list down now |
| 23:05.39 | kergoth | really? |
| 23:05.41 | kergoth | why |
| 23:05.42 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:05.55 | treke | not sure, been banned for a while :) |
| 23:06.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:06.14 | treke | There was a tkc bashing thread on the zaurus.com forums |
| 23:06.37 | treke | one of the followups was that the list had been closed down after a post from shawn |
| 23:06.44 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:06.59 | kergoth | shawn has a tendency to have tantrums at times |
| 23:08.20 | ljp | there's tkc forums |
| 23:08.31 | treke | ljp: They have them now? |
| 23:08.43 | kergoth | i'll never understand why shawn doesnt hire some damn customer service people and get away from direct contact |
| 23:09.02 | treke | He'd live longer if he did |
| 23:10.56 | treke | tkc is an example of why I plan to never start my own business :) |
| 23:11.41 | kergoth | hehe. i dont like the amount of headaches, stress, and responsibilities involved |
| 23:11.55 | kergoth | i'd rather get a small stake in someone elses venture |
| 23:12.05 | chouimat | kergoth: because shaw think that software co works like a backyard car mechanic shop |
| 23:12.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:12.14 | ljp | where's that thread? |
| 23:12.37 | treke | sure the money is good, but I like being able to sleep at night :p |
| 23:12.45 | kergoth | yeah, exactly |
| 23:13.11 | chouimat | treke: me too ... and trying to get contract for next month is worse |
| 23:13.45 | treke | he retired to get away from the crap and it kept on going :p |
| 23:14.32 | chouimat | treke: my father had 4 cable co and he sold them when the gov opened cable tv to competition |
| 23:14.45 | ljp | ahh found it |
| 23:15.00 | treke | hehe |
| 23:15.20 | chouimat | treke: and now he sleep at night |
| 23:15.31 | treke | chouimat: Father sold his accounting practice, and the guy who bought it has decided he isn't going to pay because most of the clients left |
| 23:15.45 | treke | chouimat: except they left because the new guy never returned any of their phone calls :) |
| 23:16.24 | treke | he managed to run it into the ground in less than a year |
| 23:17.07 | kergoth | he ruined the business and is trying to weasel out of paying? what an ass |
| 23:17.12 | treke | yup. |
| 23:18.35 | ljp | well, we all know how touchy _some_ developers can get... :) |
| 23:18.49 | treke | we're allowed to be touchy :) |
| 23:19.06 | treke | We arent being payed. Pay us and we'll be nice to people. |
| 23:19.45 | chouimat | treke: shit ... the co who buyed my father compagnies offered him a VP position and he said no to it but he asked them to give me a job when I get my B.Sc.A but the guy shold to a moron and all my contacts left in 2 weeks |
| 23:20.03 | treke | actually pay me and I'll start ignoring people. I don't think you can make me be nice |
| 23:20.28 | kergoth | hehe. they pay you to *not* be mean, not to be nice |
| 23:20.52 | treke | very hard |
| 23:20.55 | chouimat | kergoth: a chick once told me i was a very nice guy ... |
| 23:21.05 | treke | she obviously didn't know you well |
| 23:21.11 | chouimat | ... I don't want to be a nice guy I want her in my bed |
| 23:21.27 | treke | did you tell her that? |
| 23:21.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:21.31 | chouimat | treke: yup ... |
| 23:21.41 | treke | ok so your not nice, and a moron :) |
| 23:21.48 | kergoth | aha |
| 23:22.10 | chouimat | treke: that was 3 years ago and she now one of my best friend ... |
| 23:22.12 | treke | or maybe that's why I'm not as big a hit with the ladies as chouimat. |
| 23:22.17 | treke | Not blunt enough |
| 23:22.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:22.34 | kergoth | gotta tailor yourself |
| 23:22.39 | kergoth | if she wants nice, be nice |
| 23:22.42 | kergoth | if she wants jerk, be a jerk |
| 23:22.49 | chouimat | kergoth: exactly ... |
| 23:22.54 | treke | the latter just comes so naturally :) |
| 23:23.08 | kergoth | you can try to balance the two |
| 23:23.41 | kergoth | i find the whole jerk phenomenon interesting. woman goes out with nice guy, gets bored, realizes she wants a jerk, leaves him for jerk, nice guy becomes jerk as a result |
| 23:23.59 | treke | it's how the human race supports itself |
| 23:24.02 | chouimat | treke: I'm usually a very kind guy with ladies ... I tend to wait to know them better before getting them in my bed ... the one I talk I worked about a year for that |
| 23:24.50 | kergoth | for me it really depends on my intentions |
| 23:25.00 | kergoth | if i'm lookign for something long term, i'll just be myself |
| 23:25.19 | kergoth | if not.. |
| 23:25.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:25.56 | chouimat | kergoth: I'm looking for long term anytime because I get bored waking up every morning with some one else ... the first 8 months after my divorce cured me of that |
| 23:26.28 | kergoth | heh, same here (minus the divorce) |
| 23:27.41 | chouimat | kergoth: now I let her invite me in her bed ... so if my "services" are not meeting her expectations , she can't tell her friend that I'm not good because she will get a bad reputation for herself |
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| 23:41.18 | kergoth | switching to calling auto* against every autotools build is causing some issues |
| 23:41.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:41.24 | kergoth | particularly with glibc, gcc, adn binutils |
| 23:41.26 | kergoth | grr |
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