| 00:05.08 | kergoth | 93 new revisions |
| 00:05.09 | kergoth | whee. |
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| 01:10.49 | treke|home | kergoth`bbl: bad boy. You commited local.conf to bk :p |
| 01:11.21 | chouimat | treke: http://ulyx.ath.cx.ex.jpg |
| 01:11.26 | chouimat | treke: no porn |
| 01:11.56 | treke|home | ? |
| 01:12.12 | chouimat | me and my ex-wife at our weddings |
| 01:12.19 | treke|home | she has a huge nose |
| 01:12.28 | chouimat | treke: I know |
| 01:13.26 | chouimat | treke|home: but she did very good blowjobs ... |
| 01:24.10 | treke|home | good to know |
| 01:24.26 | chouimat | treke|home: can give her adress too ;) |
| 01:39.03 | treke|home | chouimat: http://ulyx.ath.cx/ramses.jpg <-- is that schurigs device? |
| 01:39.48 | chouimat | yup |
| 01:39.56 | treke|home | a phone? |
| 01:40.19 | chouimat | treke|home: don't know I don't have one |
| 01:40.47 | chouimat | treke|home: iirc there is gsm built in |
| 01:42.02 | treke|home | kergoth`bbl: shit man, this X build is easy |
| 01:48.53 | treke|home | hmmm, spoke to soon. |
| 01:57.16 | treke|home | czech beer any good? |
| 01:59.18 | treke|home | damn. pkgconfig-native isn't building |
| 02:01.28 | chouimat | treke|home: I drank a lot at the kde conference in czech republic |
| 02:03.02 | chouimat | treke|home: I have some Budvar super strong (the czech budveiser) and some Krusovice schwarbier (black beer) |
| 02:03.36 | treke|home | czech budweiser? That doesnt have me hopeful :p |
| 02:03.59 | chouimat | treke|home: no this one is good ... not the piss we got in north america |
| 02:04.35 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:05.04 | chouimat | treke|home: but the Krusovice is way better |
| 02:05.26 | chouimat | but at 15 crown a pint you don't care :)\ |
| 02:06.11 | chouimat | treke|home: 1 cad is about 22 crowns, a 1usd is 26 crown and 1 euro is 33 crown |
| 02:35.19 | treke|home | hehe. I feel motivated to be productive |
| 02:35.26 | treke|home | just cant decide what to be productive at |
| 02:38.05 | chouimat | treke|home: go out and get a chick back one ... that more than productive |
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| 03:52.36 | chouimat | night |
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| 04:12.39 | abz | anyone know where to get the GLIBC_2.3 that the pocketworkstation vnc requires? |
| 04:15.08 | sheenmaster | compile it |
| 04:15.29 | sheenmaster | http://osnippets.org/ |
| 04:15.35 | sheenmaster | search for "cross compiler" |
| 04:15.40 | sheenmaster | it links to a great tutorial |
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| 04:22.51 | Drizzt321 | anyone awake? |
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| 04:24.22 | noda | Moo! |
| 04:24.28 | Drizzt321 | moo! |
| 04:24.33 | treke|home | noda: !ooM |
| 04:24.58 | Drizzt321 | ok, question, you guys work with midori and/or cramfs at all? |
| 04:25.10 | treke|home | nope |
| 04:25.19 | Drizzt321 | damnit |
| 04:25.29 | Drizzt321 | know anything about midori? beyond that it might exist? |
| 04:25.37 | treke|home | nope |
| 04:25.54 | Drizzt321 | *sigh* |
| 04:26.04 | noda | Is there a program like the 'time' command in bash, but which displays the maximum amount of memory a program has allocated? |
| 04:26.17 | treke|home | nifty, cmartin added tabs to konq |
| 04:26.19 | noda | ...or do I need to install a whole bunch of stuff to get that simple number? :) |
| 04:27.22 | Drizzt321 | well, heres basically my problem, I have a gateway aol device that I'm trying to get rid of the aol stuff. it uses a transmeta chip. however, it uses cramfs(at least midori, what the os is based on in the thing now), and boots off of a cf card |
| 04:27.39 | Drizzt321 | and...I need to figure out how to get at least a basic kernel booting off the cf card |
| 04:31.06 | Drizzt321 | any thoughts? |
| 04:33.28 | ljp | tried a google search yet? |
| 04:33.45 | abz | me? yes. thank you. |
| 04:33.48 | Drizzt321 | sorta, I might just not have googled for the right stuff |
| 04:33.49 | ljp | cramfs is easy to work with/generate, but it isnt writable on the device |
| 04:34.37 | Drizzt321 | ljp: right, however I dd'd a copy onto my hdd, and mounted it loopback, still couldn't write, but I could at least read fine |
| 04:34.55 | Drizzt321 | ljp: I've looked for tools to unpack a cramfs image, but haven't found any |
| 04:39.49 | ljp | ya, you have to loop mount and cp it, and then rewrite the cramfs |
| 04:40.07 | ljp | I think. it's been a while since I used it |
| 04:40.25 | Drizzt321 | so basically I have to cp everything out, make my changes, then using the tools create it back into cramfs? |
| 04:40.27 | ljp | there's instructions for doing a custom zaurus rom, and it would be similiar |
| 04:41.34 | treke|home | the 5500 used cramfs? |
| 04:42.09 | ljp | ya, originally |
| 04:42.18 | ljp | thats why they had all those symlinks |
| 04:42.58 | ljp | I think when they started on the zaurus, jffs2 wasnt available yet |
| 04:43.38 | Drizzt321 | wheres the zaurus instructions? |
| 04:48.49 | ljp | somewhere at zaurus.com |
| 04:48.56 | treke|home | ljp: More like there was no flash available :) |
| 04:49.13 | Drizzt321 | ljp: thanx |
| 05:14.30 | kergoth`bbl | heh, sharp's original driver was read only, used 'mtdrom'. crap. |
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| 08:14.54 | Twiun | good morning |
| 08:24.59 | ||ugh | Morn. |
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| 10:08.09 | cmartin | hi, can i include patches from a web site instead of copying updated patch files into buildroot using this: |
| 10:08.26 | Twiun | yup, http targets work |
| 10:08.37 | cmartin | Sources = http://site.org/name-of-patch.patch |
| 10:08.56 | cmartin | k, great |
| 10:09.08 | Twiun | look at the libfb makefile |
| 10:09.48 | cmartin | then i'll tell that guy who's writing the tabbed-browsing patch to just put it on a site, so we can always grab a current version |
| 10:10.15 | Twiun | wonderful |
| 10:10.29 | Twiun | does hi version his patches with a symlink to the latest one? |
| 10:10.34 | Twiun | s/hi/he/ |
| 10:11.28 | cmartin | not yet, but i could suggest him doing that - then i could just change the version # of the patch in the Makefile |
| 10:22.38 | Twiun | yeah, to say something like konqtabs_current.patch or something |
| 10:22.48 | Twiun | mickeyl|tv|away: ping |
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| 11:36.20 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11cmartin@nb005 |
| 11:36.20 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1364 A few enhancements for tabbed browsing in konq/e. |
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| 12:07.54 | Twiun | La La La |
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| 12:12.23 | Twiun | Some people have too much time on their hands... http://axl.freeyellow.com/iPAQ/rework.htm |
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| 12:48.03 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11cmartin@nb005 |
| 12:48.03 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1365 Tabbed browsing patch can still be improved ;-) Replaced configure.in patch with a CXXFLAGS definition in the SIMPAD ifdef |
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| 13:21.15 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:22.18 | Twiun | hey chou |
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| 13:26.03 | chouimat | hi Twiun |
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| 14:49.44 | Com[Plex] | hmm.. anyone know where I can get GLIBC_2.3 ? <for the zaurus I mean.> trying to run the new bas, getting an error, looks like I have libc version 2.24 |
| 14:51.14 | Twiun | I think 2.3 is in the buildroot |
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| 15:08.08 | Com[Plex] | ahh shit. |
| 15:08.46 | Com[Plex] | hers a tip. dont mv your libc-2.2.4.so... |
| 15:08.53 | Com[Plex] | suddenly nothing works.. |
| 15:09.05 | Com[Plex] | cant move it badck, because the shared lib is no longer found. |
| 15:09.11 | Com[Plex] | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.18 | Com[Plex] | cant copy,cant do shit. lol |
| 15:09.51 | Com[Plex] | cant even suspend!!! |
| 15:10.06 | Twiun | argh |
| 15:10.22 | Com[Plex] | yeah, argh. lol |
| 15:10.28 | Com[Plex] | now what do I do... re flash.... |
| 15:11.13 | Neo|Work | doh |
| 15:11.16 | Neo|Work | ~lart Com[Plex] |
| 15:11.42 | Neo|Work | question is why would you EVER move libc-2.x.x.so? |
| 15:11.44 | Com[Plex] | <chuckle> |
| 15:12.05 | Neo|Work | what matters is what the link /lib/libc.so.6 points to |
| 15:12.22 | Com[Plex] | neo. was trying to fake out bas into thinking I HAD A NEWER glibc |
| 15:12.45 | Neo|Work | it has nothing to do with the filename |
| 15:12.50 | Com[Plex] | it worked with something else. I forget what. |
| 15:12.50 | Neo|Work | but with symbols in the file |
| 15:12.59 | Neo|Work | /lib/libc.so.6 is always what is used |
| 15:13.03 | Com[Plex] | hey, I was just experimenting, okay? |
| 15:13.18 | Neo|Work | you should have asked. :P |
| 15:13.38 | Com[Plex] | ask a question in here, and Im lucky if I get an answer at all, and when I do, its something like ""[10:54] <Twiun> I think 2.3 is in the buildroot |
| 15:13.42 | Neo|Work | to fix it you need a statically linked mv |
| 15:13.43 | Neo|Work | or ln |
| 15:13.57 | Neo|Work | yes, that was a valid answer was it not? |
| 15:14.12 | Com[Plex] | ibot buildroot |
| 15:14.14 | | from memory, buildroot is a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project, or see oz buildroot |
| 15:14.35 | Neo|Work | "where I can get GLIBC_2.3" would assume that you want to get glibc 2.3 |
| 15:14.54 | Neo|Work | even though you probably referred to the program complaining about the GLIBCS_2.3 symbol or what not |
| 15:15.32 | Com[Plex] | well. the program says that it requires glibc 2.3, and fails to run without it. |
| 15:15.53 | Com[Plex] | I would quote the error, lol. but I cant seem to scroll anymore. |
| 15:15.55 | Com[Plex] | haha. |
| 15:16.00 | Neo|Work | I know the error |
| 15:16.25 | Com[Plex] | oooh, I wonder if I have the roms on my cf card. |
| 15:16.29 | Neo|Work | it needs the GLIBC_2.3 symbol or something like GLIBC_2.3@whatever |
| 15:16.45 | Com[Plex] | damn, I really had this most recent flash all done up really well too. |
| 15:17.06 | Com[Plex] | wich would mean that I really do need the latest glibc? |
| 15:17.17 | Neo|Work | if you're really nice I can give you an app to fix it |
| 15:17.44 | Com[Plex] | haha, thinknit will matter if I just shut off my z? |
| 15:17.55 | Com[Plex] | I dont think it will boot. lets try. |
| 15:18.40 | Com[Plex] | got the chicken... blinking cursor. :( |
| 15:18.50 | Neo|Work | you rebooted it too? |
| 15:18.52 | Neo|Work | doh. :) |
| 15:19.23 | Com[Plex] | does anyone else in here have a lot of problems with the SD cards throwing up after a few rsuspend/resumes ? |
| 15:19.37 | Com[Plex] | by throwing up,n I mean, not working anymore. io errors. requiring a reboot |
| 15:26.09 | Com[Plex] | no? |
| 15:26.16 | Com[Plex] | hmm.. maybe I need a new sd card. |
| 15:26.41 | Neo|Work | never seen that no |
| 15:27.11 | Com[Plex] | I dont remember it ever happening oin my 64mb sd card, but it happens constantly with this 128mb one |
| 15:29.33 | Twiun | I've never seen that with my 128mb mmc either |
| 15:29.59 | Com[Plex] | too bad its outside of warrantee. I dont really have the breafd to spend on a new one. |
| 15:30.42 | Com[Plex] | okay,got this thing gflashed, in the proccess of booting. now IM lookin at the buildrtoot that ibot linked to me, and Im not sure where to go for whatever IM looking for... |
| 15:41.17 | Neo|Work | why not just recompile the app you're trying to use? |
| 15:43.38 | Com[Plex] | I tried that with the last version if I remember right.. hold on. Ill try it with this one. |
| 15:43.44 | Com[Plex] | gonna compile it on the skiff cluster |
| 15:46.58 | treke | mornin |
| 15:47.25 | treke | skiffcluster is probably on 2.3 |
| 15:50.50 | Com[Plex] | really... so,, I should be able to copy it right out of the libs folder? |
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| 15:52.46 | treke | Com[Plex]: Doubtful |
| 15:52.57 | Com[Plex] | hmm.. |
| 15:53.15 | treke | Com[Plex]: cross compiling it is your best bet |
| 15:53.18 | Com[Plex] | it looks like /lib/libc.so.6 is symlinked to libc-2.2.5.so ... |
| 15:53.51 | Com[Plex] | the bas compiled on the skiff cluster works fine on the skiff cluster. haha |
| 15:54.03 | Com[Plex] | now lets see if it works on my z |
| 16:00.44 | Twiun | mickeyl|tv|away: ping |
| 16:04.53 | Com[Plex] | growl |
| 16:04.58 | Com[Plex] | this thing segfaults like crazy |
| 16:05.14 | Com[Plex] | 10 input a$ |
| 16:05.19 | Com[Plex] | 20 print a$ |
| 16:05.23 | Com[Plex] | 30 go to 20 |
| 16:05.26 | Com[Plex] | SEGFAULT. |
| 16:05.30 | Com[Plex] | lol |
| 16:05.53 | Com[Plex] | who is this seg guy and why does he get blamed for all these crashes/? |
| 16:10.50 | Com[Plex] | it does NOt like to think fast. |
| 16:12.55 | Neo|Work | uh |
| 16:12.57 | Neo|Work | basic? |
| 16:13.53 | Com[Plex] | yup :) |
| 16:14.09 | Com[Plex] | just farting around, tyring to show someone how we "uised to do it" |
| 16:19.27 | kergoth | i wish i never learned basic |
| 16:25.19 | kergoth | i only remember goto |
| 16:25.24 | kergoth | unfortunately |
| 16:25.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:26.51 | kergoth | i remember trying to calculate digits of PI in basic when i was like 10 |
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| 16:33.03 | Com[Plex] | hehehe |
| 16:34.48 | Com[Plex] | so... Ive been assuming that, a libc.2.3.1.so file from one computer would eb different than one for the z.. is this true? |
| 16:35.19 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:35.21 | treke | Depends on the specifics of the machines |
| 16:35.41 | kergoth | last night i went through and ran autoupdate on each and every autotools package |
| 16:35.46 | kergoth | added a shitload of configure.patch's |
| 16:35.55 | kergoth | now have to go through and do the manual fixes |
| 16:35.56 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 16:36.13 | treke | kergoth: added a bunch of xfree86 oe's last night |
| 16:36.55 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 16:37.16 | treke | got stuck on pkgconfig thought |
| 16:38.19 | kergoth | stuck in what way? |
| 16:38.35 | kergoth | as long as you drop the .pc's in staging/share/pkgconfig, and have pkgconfig-native built, it should work |
| 16:38.49 | treke | pkgconfig-native wasn't even attempting to download sources |
| 16:39.05 | kergoth | weird |
| 16:39.14 | kergoth | our proxy here has been giving me fits |
| 16:39.19 | kergoth | caching shit it shouldnt be |
| 16:39.21 | kergoth | :\ |
| 16:39.30 | treke | btw, did you intend to checkin oe/conf/local/conf? |
| 16:39.42 | kergoth | nope, its called lcoal for a reason |
| 16:39.52 | kergoth | did i check it in accidentally? |
| 16:39.56 | treke | that's what I was thinking, just wanted to be sure before removing |
| 16:40.11 | treke | yup. :) |
| 16:40.13 | kergoth | ah, yep |
| 16:40.20 | kergoth | i did a bk add conf/*.conf |
| 16:40.23 | kergoth | when i added all the machine .confs |
| 16:40.24 | kergoth | oops |
| 16:40.51 | treke | I take it we can now do something like corgi.conf and specify build options for corgi in there? |
| 16:41.05 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:41.11 | kergoth | i already added TARGET_ARCH=blah for htem |
| 16:41.21 | kergoth | so you can just MACHINE=corgi and have that set automatically |
| 16:46.13 | kergoth | any suggestions on which package's postinst should setup the default fstab? |
| 16:46.20 | kergoth | base-files? |
| 16:47.31 | treke | hmmm, should we create a package specifically for stuff like that? |
| 16:47.44 | kergoth | passwd is handled via base-passwd |
| 16:47.46 | treke | base-files has the basic stuff, and base-files-machine |
| 16:47.46 | treke | ? |
| 16:48.01 | kergoth | with an update-passwd script that handles distroish changes |
| 16:48.07 | kergoth | perhaps we should do something similar for fstab |
| 16:48.46 | kergoth | treke: well, thats a tough call. ipkg supports architecture, so you dont really need it that granular |
| 16:49.13 | treke | But it would simply keeping things in the same feed |
| 16:49.27 | kergoth | how so? |
| 16:49.32 | kergoth | architecture is in the ipk filename |
| 16:49.38 | kergoth | and in the control file |
| 16:49.40 | treke | forgot about that |
| 16:49.53 | treke | I was thinking they were all $PN_$PV_arm.ipk |
| 16:50.41 | kergoth | FILES_PN=blah, TARGET_ARCH_PN=${MACHINE} |
| 16:50.42 | kergoth | ta da |
| 16:50.44 | kergoth | heheh |
| 16:54.04 | kergoth | ./usr/bin/arm-linux-joe |
| 16:54.04 | kergoth | ./usr/bin/arm-linux-termidx |
| 16:54.04 | kergoth | hah |
| 16:54.11 | kergoth | yet another case of autoconf setting the program prefix wrong |
| 16:54.34 | kergoth | it should be set only when host_alias != target_alias, not when build_alias != target_alias |
| 17:00.40 | kergoth | oh fuck |
| 17:00.45 | kergoth | pushed a changeset that shouldnt be pushed |
| 17:00.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:01.15 | kergoth | guess i'll produce an inverse cset to cancel it out |
| 17:02.08 | treke | man openoffice sucks |
| 17:04.40 | lsmith | i am amazed with what sort of bugs it lives |
| 17:04.57 | lsmith | a table cell that reaches the end of the page cannot be broken up |
| 17:05.05 | lsmith | and the fix is planned for 2.0 |
| 17:05.09 | lsmith | which is like in 2005 |
| 17:05.18 | treke | hehe |
| 17:06.06 | lsmith | got the correct language set? |
| 17:06.07 | lsmith | :-) |
| 17:24.24 | kergoth | hrm hrm |
| 17:30.09 | Com[Plex] | hey uh. NeoTron ? :) |
| 17:30.39 | Com[Plex] | got that utility? I accidentally linked the wrong thing.. *sigh* |
| 17:30.50 | Com[Plex] | I allways forget what order to poyut the stupid ln conmmand |
| 17:31.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:31.06 | Com[Plex] | ln -sf target newfile? or newfile/target |
| 17:31.17 | kergoth | ln [file to link to] [newlink] |
| 17:31.29 | Com[Plex] | yeah.. |
| 17:31.39 | kergoth | path of file to link to is from the location of newlink if the path is relative |
| 17:31.43 | kergoth | which is important to keep in mind |
| 17:32.09 | Com[Plex] | yeah.. well. I guess its time to reflash.. second time today. |
| 17:32.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:32.43 | Com[Plex] | unless there is a way to copy or rename a file without needing libc.so.6 |
| 17:33.02 | kergoth | only if the binaries are static |
| 17:33.02 | Com[Plex] | and some way to get it on my z without a card reader.. or ftp. or anything. haha |
| 17:34.04 | Com[Plex] | ? |
| 17:34.13 | kergoth | heh, you're screwed. just reflash |
| 17:34.21 | Com[Plex] | haha. okay. lol |
| 17:34.22 | kergoth | switching glibc versions without reflashing isnt recommended |
| 17:40.59 | treke | this is why we recommended you recompile the program :) |
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| 17:48.47 | kergoth | heh, added udev to oe |
| 17:48.55 | kergoth | which will be nice for the 2.6 users |
| 17:49.34 | gb2 | heh, cool. |
| 17:49.47 | kergoth | yeah. wonder how well it works |
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| 18:01.00 | cmartin | hi |
| 18:01.09 | kergoth | hey cmartin |
| 18:16.29 | kergoth | heh, i like how bash's sources contain some default caches for cross builds |
| 18:16.54 | treke | cmartin: hey cmarting. Have any tabbed konqueror screen shots? |
| 18:22.11 | kergoth | wtf |
| 18:22.15 | kergoth | my townhouse association.. |
| 18:22.21 | kergoth | i owed em like $1500 |
| 18:22.25 | kergoth | paid them in full |
| 18:22.38 | kergoth | but apparently they decided to pursue a lien against the property THE SAME DAY THEY CASHED THE CHECK |
| 18:22.46 | kergoth | and didnt call off their dogs after that |
| 18:22.53 | kergoth | so i've got these lawyers after me now |
| 18:22.57 | kergoth | despite the fact that i already fucking paid. |
| 18:30.06 | gb2 | I got my thinkpad down to what seems to be an effective 18.75MHz clock |
| 18:30.06 | Com[Plex] | wow. better make sure you get that lean removed after all is said and done. |
| 18:30.07 | gb2 | weird |
| 18:30.28 | kergoth | Com[Plex]: indeed. my credit hurts bad enough as is, without more crap :\ |
| 18:30.31 | Com[Plex] | Ive heard soem horror stories about unrevoked leans styaing in effect forever. |
| 18:30.56 | treke | gb2: ouch, hope you are a vi user |
| 18:31.00 | gb2 | hehe |
| 18:31.03 | Com[Plex] | jsut file chapter 13. |
| 18:31.24 | gb2 | scary thing is watching the lament screensaver effortlessly twirl the hellraiser cube around on screen |
| 18:31.32 | kergoth | heh. i can crawl out of this debt given my income, but i need time without this BS |
| 18:31.32 | Com[Plex] | or fuck it, file bankruptcy. screw all the bastards |
| 18:31.35 | gb2 | since that's all done in the graphics hardware |
| 18:31.48 | Com[Plex] | call them all and tell them you want to settle |
| 18:32.51 | kergoth | thinking i might see if i can get a debt consolodation loan from wells fargo |
| 18:32.54 | kergoth | or something |
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| 18:37.51 | kergoth | hey schurig. |
| 18:38.00 | schurig | kergoth: hi! |
| 18:38.11 | schurig | kergoth: boy, is it long ago that I was here in the channel :-) |
| 18:38.16 | schurig | ... and met you |
| 18:39.38 | kergoth | yeah, seems like our timing is off, i always get here when you're leaving |
| 18:39.40 | kergoth | how ya been? |
| 18:41.35 | schurig | we successfully fulfilled an important milestone for a customer, therefore I was VERY busy |
| 18:41.49 | kergoth | ah, well thats cool. |
| 18:42.16 | schurig | and on monday morning I went to a dentist and then was referred to a dental "chirurg" (whatever that is in english, someone that does a surgery) |
| 18:42.30 | kergoth | doh. why surgery? |
| 18:42.33 | kergoth | hows your kid doing? |
| 18:42.53 | schurig | kergoth: my english might be too limited. I'll try: |
| 18:43.27 | schurig | kergoth: people have 4 additional teeth that grow once they are adult. One of them had caries on the side, so it had to be pulled. Unfortunately, |
| 18:44.05 | schurig | kergoth: the root of this teeth was very long, going into the bone next to the hole/cave behind your nose. So the dentist said "I can't pull this, if a hole opens, I'd be helpless". |
| 18:44.26 | schurig | kergoth: and so I went to the dental surgery, they pulled it, the hole opened, they had to sew (saw?) it |
| 18:45.43 | schurig | next week thursday I've to go again there, they retrieve the "rope" (what's english for a small tiny rope used in surgery?) |
| 18:45.51 | schurig | ibot: translate "Faden" to english |
| 18:45.53 | | no idea, schurig |
| 18:45.59 | schurig | ibot: dumb thing |
| 18:46.00 | | schurig: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:47.11 | kergoth | ibot: babelfish de en faden |
| 18:47.28 | schurig | ah, it's me that was dump :-) |
| 18:47.34 | schurig | s/p/b/ |
| 18:50.11 | fdask | stitch? |
| 18:50.42 | kergoth | hm hm |
| 18:53.26 | schurig | kergoth: so, how is life at your new employer? |
| 18:53.55 | kergoth | quite good. still interesting. switching between OE, bootloader code, and kernel code, keeps it from getting too boring |
| 18:54.27 | treke | schurig: suture? |
| 18:54.59 | schurig | treke: never heard that word. I heard "stitch", but am not sure if it is the right word. Anyway, I guess migth have got it. |
| 18:55.38 | kergoth | nah, screw it |
| 18:56.01 | treke | schurig: yeah, most americans would understand stitch, just thought you wanted the "official" word :p |
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| 19:02.48 | icefox_work | Does open embedded compile qt with thread support? |
| 19:03.48 | treke | open embedded is just the build system, openzaurus does not include thread support |
| 19:05.00 | schurig | icefox_work: my qte3 package does have thread, but then you're incompatible to Opie |
| 19:05.21 | schurig | (but can use SQL methods, the reason why we use Qt3 in our company). It's also somewhat faster (for our apps) |
| 19:05.24 | treke | kergoth: users are bitching about tkc on the zaurus forums |
| 19:06.29 | treke | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?showtopic=6601 |
| 19:21.22 | kergoth | hm, should we switch from site/arm-linux to site/arm-linux.d/*? |
| 19:21.41 | kergoth | if we do, you could include site cache values in the -dev packages |
| 19:21.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:25.04 | kergoth | treke: heh, nothing surprising there, but at least people are aware of the tkc support (or lack thereof) |
| 19:26.09 | treke | hmmm, that didn't sound right |
| 19:26.28 | treke | "If I had balls i'd show you how" |
| 19:26.46 | treke | re: juggling :p |
| 19:26.58 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 20:05.02 | icefox_work | treke: that is halarius |
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| 20:06.58 | treke | hey andersee |
| 20:07.22 | andersee | treke: hey |
| 20:08.28 | treke | andersee: You heard anything about the busybox apt-get implementation? |
| 20:08.43 | andersee | treke: nope |
| 20:08.58 | andersee | treke: I think bug1 may have been working on such a thing |
| 20:10.28 | kergoth | yeah, i remember bug1 mentioning something about it at some point |
| 20:18.30 | kergoth | subst.o(.text+0x3f4): undefined reference to `__ctype_b_loc' |
| 20:18.31 | kergoth | subst.o(.text+0x41f): undefined reference to `__ctype_b_loc' |
| 20:18.33 | kergoth | grr, i hate that |
| 20:22.22 | kergoth | there we go |
| 20:22.26 | kergoth | e2fsprogs happy again |
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| 20:40.04 | kergoth | opie still need libuuid? added e2fsprogs-libs while i was at it |
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| 21:04.37 | cmartin | treke: sorry, was busy - here's a screeny of the tabbed konqe - http://forum.opensimpad.org/126.0.html?&no_cache=1&tx_lzphpbb_pi1[t]=413&tx_lzphpbb_pi1[t3func]=12 |
| 21:07.57 | sheenmaster | hell yeah |
| 21:08.09 | sheenmaster | Even a laptop for that matter. |
| 21:08.25 | chouimat | sheenmaster: minimum resolution ... Xinerama spoiled me |
| 21:09.03 | sheenmaster | I got the last model of iBook without dual-display support :( |
| 21:09.18 | chouimat | I want an ibook |
| 21:09.31 | sheenmaster | I wonder if I could do video over ethernet over ppp over firewire to use another system's displays... |
| 21:09.53 | chouimat | and a non windows related job ... for unix must do contracts |
| 21:10.07 | sheenmaster | you work with windows? |
| 21:10.09 | chouimat | sheenmaster: VNC |
| 21:10.09 | sheenmaster | that must suck |
| 21:10.42 | chouimat | sheenmaster: nah I'm self employed so I do unix/linux but max income is 25 000cad/year :( |
| 21:10.49 | sheenmaster | vnc has too much lag, even over 400mbit |
| 21:11.11 | sheenmaster | which province? |
| 21:11.23 | chouimat | eastern Quebec |
| 21:12.27 | kergoth | k, added a couple cron implementations |
| 21:13.05 | chouimat | sheenmaster: 25 000 -> 12000 from my "placement¨, 8000 from a teaching contract (dos/windows/unix) and 5000 from unix related contracts ... |
| 21:14.43 | kergoth | treke: know where 'at' upstream is offhand? |
| 21:14.50 | kergoth | googling for it wouldnt be fun |
| 21:14.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:15.08 | chouimat | lol |
| 21:16.14 | treke | " |
| 21:16.14 | treke | This may be considered the experimental upstream source, and since there |
| 21:16.14 | treke | doesn't seem to be any other upstream source, the only upstream source. |
| 21:16.15 | treke | " |
| 21:16.28 | kergoth | heh, debian? |
| 21:16.41 | treke | yup. Dunno about redhat |
| 21:16.44 | kergoth | k |
| 21:16.53 | kergoth | i'm surprised to see someone actually noting that its upstream |
| 21:16.56 | kergoth | thats rare |
| 21:16.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:18.10 | treke | gentoo uses debian |
| 21:25.26 | kergoth | ah, needs libfl |
| 21:28.41 | chouimat | kergoth: hi |
| 21:44.24 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 21:44.36 | chouimat | kergoth: nice lag ;) |
| 21:44.51 | kergoth | k, added 'at' |
| 21:45.30 | kergoth | chouimat: hehe. was on another vt adding at to oe |
| 21:46.08 | chouimat | kergoth: use the force luke errr use X kergoth |
| 21:46.17 | kergoth | nah :) |
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| 22:04.31 | kergoth | added autofs daemon |
| 22:04.42 | kergoth | should be fun on the Z for managing samba shares on network devices |
| 22:04.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:04.55 | kergoth | [drevil] was always pestering me to add it to oz |
| 22:08.41 | kergoth | treke: push your X stuff yet? ;) |
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| 22:25.33 | treke | kergoth: nope. I was going to finish it first :) |
| 22:26.43 | kergoth | treke: use nonworking :) |
| 22:26.51 | kergoth | its like a sandbox area |
| 22:27.48 | treke | holy crap there's a lot of patches |
| 22:29.54 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:30.03 | treke | the only thing I really need to do is locate the actual download directory instead of cvs, then I can push what I have |
| 22:30.14 | treke | the packages I have work, just don't do anything useful |
| 22:30.23 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 22:30.27 | kergoth | damnit, 'file' broke again |
| 22:30.36 | kergoth | they keep putting out new versions and killing hte old tarballs |
| 22:30.42 | kergoth | (and this is upstream, not debian) |
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| 22:30.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:32.08 | treke | should I put all the xfree86 package directories in an xfree86 subdirectory, or just leave them in root? |
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| 22:33.51 | kergoth | treke: are you donig the .oe's for the autotools version? |
| 22:33.56 | treke | yes |
| 22:34.11 | treke | where I have the 8 billion different .oes to generate :p |
| 22:34.13 | kergoth | probably an xfree86 dir for namespace reasons |
| 22:34.15 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:34.52 | treke | until i hit pkgconfig, it was pretty much boiling down to how fast I could type |
| 22:35.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:35.48 | kergoth | yay for the autotools oeclass! |
| 22:36.05 | treke | theres a pkgconfig patch in this pull I'm doing, so maybe it will help |
| 22:36.16 | kergoth | k, let me know if it doesnt |
| 22:36.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:37.02 | kergoth | i went through updating package after package after package's configure.ac/in |
| 22:37.10 | kergoth | bringing them all up to current autotools |
| 22:37.15 | kergoth | still a fair bit of owrk to do tehre |
| 22:37.16 | treke | god dammit kergoth |
| 22:37.24 | treke | you checked in packages/tmp :p |
| 22:37.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:37.30 | kergoth | yeah, oops |
| 22:37.41 | kergoth | then i created a cset -x for it, but that doesnt help when you rm -rf tmp |
| 22:37.45 | kergoth | so then i had to mark those files as gone |
| 22:37.47 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:38.11 | treke | at least you didn't have source trees in there |
| 22:38.16 | treke | cd .. |
| 22:38.17 | treke | ls |
| 22:38.50 | treke | <lmcvoy> Why is the openembedded tree on bkbits now 4 gig? |
| 22:39.01 | fdask | haha |
| 22:39.58 | kergoth | hehe. then i'd have to just rm -rf the upstream tree |
| 22:40.03 | kergoth | kill teh metadata in the local copy |
| 22:40.05 | kergoth | and clone it back up |
| 22:40.09 | kergoth | then force everybody to reclone |
| 22:40.12 | kergoth | (been there, done that) |
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| 22:40.48 | treke | ok. pkgconfig is better |
| 22:41.13 | kergoth | good good |
| 22:42.06 | treke | TOPDIR isnt being set right, but that might be my fault |
| 22:47.24 | treke | gb2: Sad part is, 90 of them are error messages from a webapp that in no way help us track down the bug :) |
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| 23:15.38 | kergoth | bah, stupid builds that dont have or obey BUILD_CC/CC_FOR_BUILD |
| 23:19.07 | sheenmaster | if I set up a sourceforge like site for zaurus development, would anyone use it? cross compilers, tools, shell accounts, cvs, etc. as well as automated feeds of course |
| 23:19.29 | kergoth | um |
| 23:19.38 | kergoth | thats what zaurus.com's community area is |
| 23:19.44 | kergoth | it was built by one of the guys who wrote sf |
| 23:19.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:20.49 | sheenmaster | oh well |
| 23:21.11 | kergoth | just sharp doesnt pay attention to it |
| 23:21.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:21.36 | fdask | who wrote the community area |
| 23:21.36 | sheenmaster | maybe an OZ-centric one?ah |
| 23:22.12 | sheenmaster | nm, you've got the OE build system in place, making switching an unnecessary pita |
| 23:22.31 | kergoth | well, oz doesnt need anything like sf |
| 23:22.36 | kergoth | we have our own faq system |
| 23:22.38 | kergoth | rt for bug/task tracking |
| 23:22.50 | kergoth | and our build tools for automatic nightlies and the like |
| 23:23.33 | kergoth | and of course we use bk/bkbits for scm |
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