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| 01:38.08 | treke|home | ljp: ping mofo |
| 02:09.14 | Taekero | heh, i wonder if there is a magical solution to get libvncserver to compile :p |
| 02:11.58 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.11 | treke|home | my opie co finally finishes and I forgot to check out the right branch |
| 02:12.47 | Taekero | heh, oopps |
| 02:13.42 | treke|home | this wouldnt be a problem if we used bitkeeper :p |
| 02:14.14 | Taekero | heh, handles version better, i'm guessing? |
| 02:14.18 | Taekero | *versioning |
| 02:15.11 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:25.40 | Taekero | yay, fonts are building |
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| 03:50.47 | kergoth | that was an odd movie |
| 03:50.55 | kergoth | confessions of a dangerous mind |
| 03:50.56 | TheMasterMind1 | which one |
| 03:50.59 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 03:51.11 | TheMasterMind1 | i watched a couple mins of that |
| 03:51.16 | TheMasterMind1 | then turned it off |
| 03:51.34 | treke|home | kergoth: worth watching? |
| 03:51.37 | kergoth | heh, i'm normally not a fan of drama in general. it wasnt bad, just .. odd. |
| 03:52.15 | kergoth | probably worth renting or downloading, i wouldnt have wanted to pay to see it in a theatre |
| 03:53.46 | treke|home | jhehe |
| 03:54.18 | treke|home | wonder if there is anything worth watching on tv |
| 03:54.51 | treke|home | when did you start it? |
| 03:55.16 | Taekero | ugh, donno, heh |
| 03:55.27 | treke|home | doesnt take that long too build :p |
| 03:57.38 | treke|home | nope. nothing on |
| 03:58.11 | treke|home | other than AMC's round the clock westerns. |
| 04:07.39 | kergoth | mmm laphroaig |
| 04:07.48 | fdask | :o |
| 04:07.53 | fdask | u gonna share that or what |
| 04:08.00 | fdask | :9~ |
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| 04:11.50 | kergoth | Sugar: make fdask a scotch on the rocks |
| 04:12.09 | fdask | thanks! |
| 04:12.37 | fdask | i got a bottle of laphroaig last year for christmas... went way too fast |
| 04:12.38 | kergoth | you ever see that college project where they made a mixed drink vending machine? |
| 04:12.41 | kergoth | i want one of those |
| 04:12.46 | fdask | ya, i saw that. :) |
| 04:14.43 | kergoth | thatd be great, especially since my drink mixing skill varies inversely with my consumption |
| 04:17.22 | fdask | haha |
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| 04:24.26 | Taekero | bah, opie is still building |
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| 04:50.21 | treke|home | evening mithro |
| 04:52.01 | treke|home | Sugar: make me a scotch neat |
| 04:52.15 | treke|home | Taekero: what kind of fricken machine are you using? |
| 04:52.45 | Taekero | uh, well, it dosen't help that i'm building within vmware |
| 04:52.47 | Taekero | heh |
| 04:53.00 | Taekero | slows things down a lot |
| 04:53.01 | treke|home | ick |
| 04:53.15 | treke|home | please tell me you aren't using a virtual disk? |
| 04:53.27 | treke|home | vmware itself is really pretty fast |
| 04:53.34 | Taekero | ... i am, sadly |
| 04:53.50 | Taekero | i'm too lazy to do a native install, or setup a toolchain in freebsd |
| 04:54.00 | Taekero | heh |
| 04:54.34 | treke|home | it's the disk emulation that takes a big hit, if you use the raw partition support, it isnt too bad |
| 04:55.28 | Taekero | doubtful it would work in freebsd anyway... yeah, i realize that.. dont have any open space for partitions however... |
| 04:55.56 | treke|home | I woudlnt think it would take much to make buildroot work in freebsd |
| 05:00.08 | Taro | toolchain works in linux righ? any distro? |
| 05:00.45 | treke|home | for a sane definition of any |
| 05:01.07 | Taro | gentoo |
| 05:01.11 | Taekero | yes, like, you need elf binary support |
| 05:01.14 | Taekero | ;) |
| 05:01.24 | Taro | thats what I thought |
| 05:01.30 | Taekero | yeah, it seems to work in gentoo fine |
| 05:01.50 | Taro | k - about to get permission to build a developement box |
| 05:02.35 | Taro | hmm .. does directFB work on Zaurus? |
| 05:03.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:03.22 | kergoth | thats a silly question. directfb by its nature works on anything with an fb |
| 05:03.34 | Taro | not always |
| 05:03.43 | kergoth | the Z is just another linux box. |
| 05:03.50 | kergoth | the sooner you understand that the better |
| 05:03.54 | Taro | it puked on a SUN badly - dunno wht |
| 05:04.11 | Taro | I do know its just another Linux box |
| 05:04.28 | gb2 | kergoth: it can |
| 05:04.33 | Taro | I also know how many people write code that is x86 biased and it tends to break in some way |
| 05:04.36 | gb2 | yes |
| 05:04.56 | Taro | or makes assumptions in some other way |
| 05:05.04 | kergoth | yep, that happens. |
| 05:05.23 | kergoth | but probably not as often as you'd think. |
| 05:05.55 | Taro | well, I had a few gotchas with the Sun |
| 05:06.57 | Taro | a slip in 1 variable name allowed the whole system to work except for some patch which mean't I couldn't type a lower case l in X. |
| 05:07.37 | Taro | rebuilding X to fix it took awhile since I didn't cross-compile. Old Ultra1 takes days to compile X |
| 05:08.03 | Taro | thats ok |
| 05:08.21 | Taro | my output device quit producing parsable code a long time ago :) |
| 05:09.19 | fdask | u drink ur scotch straight up, kergoth? |
| 05:09.53 | kergoth | sometimes neat, sometimes on the rocks. varies. |
| 05:10.05 | treke|home | :) |
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| 05:10.38 | Taro | i got an ice-maker. You bring the fire-water, I'll bring the ice |
| 05:11.00 | fdask | at the liquor store here, i bought a pack of icecubes made with water from scotland. called scotch rocks. i couldn't resist. :) |
| 05:11.22 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:11.31 | Taro | Oh yeah, I love getting the better end! |
| 05:12.12 | Taro | how up to date is the wiki as far as build instructions and the state of things? |
| 05:12.28 | kergoth | wiki is way behind, from when we were first brainstorming the project |
| 05:12.36 | kergoth | read the files in doc/ in the OE repository for current info |
| 05:12.46 | kergoth | openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 05:13.14 | Taro | k |
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| 05:25.46 | W8TVI|z | lets see how this goes |
| 05:25.48 | W8TVI|z | brb |
| 05:35.04 | Taekero | gah, i cant find a good stream with art bell |
| 05:35.06 | Taekero | heh |
| 05:36.39 | Taro_Zaurus | ìs there a mailing-list for openembedded? |
| 05:38.34 | W8TVI|z | I didnt know an bmw m5 could go 145mph.. |
| 05:39.38 | kergoth | Taro_Zaurus: there are openzaurus and openembedded sourceforge projects. both have lists |
| 05:40.00 | Taro_Zaurus | thanks |
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| 06:28.55 | Taekero | treke|home: your not going to believe this... its STILL compiling... but, i had the vm in low priority... just found out a bit ago |
| 06:29.05 | treke|z | acj |
| 06:29.26 | treke|z | if my dsl wasnt slow, i would post a tarball |
| 06:30.17 | Taekero | heh, i'll let it go, i'll be asleep soon, anyway |
| 06:30.37 | treke|z | same |
| 06:31.23 | Taekero | heh, bed typing |
| 06:32.14 | treke|z | yup and web news reading |
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| 06:47.01 | Taekero | Yay! |
| 06:47.08 | Taekero | opie is being packages |
| 06:47.11 | Taekero | *packaged |
| 06:47.22 | Taekero | bah, my tired typing/thinking sucks |
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| 09:09.17 | mithro | treke: you about? |
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| 09:26.56 | Twiun | good morning |
| 09:28.48 | CAM|CAM | hello Twiun |
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| 10:08.02 | mithro | anyone know why opera would refuse to go to a https website? |
| 10:21.00 | Twiun | any number of things... does it resolve the host? |
| 10:21.08 | Twiun | was opera linked with openssl |
| 10:21.09 | Twiun | ? |
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| 10:32.17 | Twiun | does the https site have a valid cert? |
| 10:32.24 | Twiun | was it signed by a real CA? |
| 10:32.32 | Twiun | etc, etc |
| 10:46.23 | mithro | well it isn't signed by a real CA |
| 10:46.24 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 10:46.27 | mithro | it's signed by my CA :) |
| 10:46.43 | mithro | but i imported my cert into the list of CA's |
| 10:46.56 | mithro | still no go :( |
| 10:48.07 | Twiun | hmmm - does it work with other https sites? |
| 10:48.25 | mithro | ones signed with a real CA |
| 10:51.49 | Twiun | see if you can browse to https://webmail.tangency.co.uk |
| 10:53.34 | mithro | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.50 | Twiun | using opera? |
| 10:53.56 | mithro | yeah |
| 10:54.02 | Twiun | hrm |
| 10:54.20 | Twiun | then there's something else wrong - that's also signed by my own CA ;) |
| 10:54.22 | mithro | it's a bit weird |
| 10:55.13 | mithro | because netscape/ie don't complain |
| 10:59.53 | mithro | this place looks intresting -> http://www.cacert.org/ |
| 11:00.55 | Twiun | oooo |
| 11:01.00 | Twiun | definately worth a read |
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| 11:05.15 | mithro | hrm |
| 11:05.17 | mithro | [Sun Oct 5 04:05:05 2003] [error] mod_ssl: SSL handshake failed (server mail.mithis.com:443, client 202.174.36.83) (OpenSSL library error follows) |
| 11:05.18 | mithro | [Sun Oct 5 04:05:05 2003] [error] OpenSSL: error:14094416:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert certificate unknown |
| 11:05.34 | Twiun | aha |
| 11:05.46 | Twiun | try making a TLSv1 cert |
| 11:06.10 | Twiun | iirc TLSv1>SSL3 |
| 11:06.18 | mithro | how do i do that? |
| 11:06.35 | Twiun | no idea... I just followed the apache instructions ;) |
| 11:07.21 | mithro | where did you get these apache instructions? |
| 11:07.46 | Twiun | erm. either from the apache site or from the readmes bundled in the rpm |
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| 11:47.55 | mithro | hrm - i guess i must have stuffed up my cert somehow |
| 11:48.01 | mithro | regenerated it and it works now |
| 11:49.41 | mithro | anyone know where to get the mkswap program? i can't seem to convince buildroot to make me one |
| 11:55.02 | Twiun | should be in util-linux |
| 11:56.43 | mithro | thats what i thought |
| 11:56.52 | mithro | but it doesn't appear to be |
| 12:07.53 | Twiun | dunno then - it's been a while since I looked inside the buildroot |
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| 13:43.13 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:44.42 | Twiun | hey |
| 13:53.56 | chouimat | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2003/ft031003.gif |
| 14:05.10 | mickeyl | hehe, sweet |
| 14:10.25 | chouimat | hi mickeyl btw any image for the 5000d with uclibc? |
| 14:11.41 | mickeyl | no. besides that noone is doing any images with the old buildroot anymore, the opie launcher doesn't work with uclibc yet. it uses some nasty glibc only things which must be erased. work on that is on hold due to the OE transition. |
| 14:12.45 | mithro | nasty glibc only things? |
| 14:13.44 | chouimat | mickeyl: ok I will wait them and will have time to add this new computer to my build farm |
| 14:15.16 | mickeyl | mithro: no idea 'bout details, but after a successful compile I got some strange unresolved symbols on startup which looked like glibc-magic. |
| 14:26.55 | chouimat | ibot seen node |
| 14:26.56 | | node <~node@194.151.160.66> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 304d 1h 7m 22s ago, saying: 'whats the Q button ?'. |
| 14:26.59 | chouimat | ibot seen noda |
| 14:26.59 | | noda <~noda@modemcable013.119-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 14h 32m 51s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 14:27.39 | chouimat | can some one tell noda that openzaurus.org crashes jkonqueror 3.2alpha2 |
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| 14:35.00 | mickeyl | tell him via botmail |
| 14:36.11 | chouimat | mickeyl: nm I'm talking with the khtml devel |
| 14:41.51 | TheMasterMind1 | haha |
| 14:41.53 | TheMasterMind1 | alias ep2 |
| 14:43.18 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: shaddap |
| 14:43.53 | TheMasterMind1 | its on torrent |
| 14:44.42 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: hnmm I think I will watching on my 42" tv tonight |
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| 15:28.45 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: I'm trying to use bittorrent how it work? |
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| 16:18.13 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: btdownloadcurses file.torrent |
| 16:18.31 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: ok |
| 16:18.49 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: and where to find those .torrent? |
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| 20:10.40 | Taekero | hrm |
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| 21:35.56 | ljp | *yawn* |
| 21:38.11 | treke|home | hey lhp |
| 21:38.13 | treke|home | ljp |
| 21:38.27 | treke|home | do you have access to tim wentfords source tree? |
| 21:45.15 | ljp | nope. he used to send patches |
| 21:45.40 | ljp | I thought someone else was handling his patches |
| 21:46.24 | treke|home | nope. I emailed him to see about getting patches, wasnt sure if you had them yet |
| 21:52.38 | treke|home | not to self. QDebug goes *in front of * return; |
| 21:55.59 | treke|home | ~lart QScrollView for not knowing it's size in the constructor |
| 21:57.35 | tronical | can't really blame QScrollView for that, or? :) |
| 21:59.00 | treke|home | sure I can :p |
| 21:59.29 | treke|home | that's actually the reason I gave up on my first qte project |
| 21:59.54 | ljp | hmmm |
| 22:00.02 | treke|home | I didn't know that was what was happening, and couldn't get a feature working. |
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| 22:00.14 | tronical | ah |
| 22:01.12 | treke|home | then a couple months later I learned what was happening, but by that point tim wentford had released QTReader and I was happy :) |
| 22:09.03 | ljp | what?! did yousay something? sorry, I cant hear you |
| 22:16.24 | treke|home | hehe, someone in new york was arrested for keeping a tiger and an alligator in his apartment |
| 22:16.47 | ljp | ya, I saw that, idiot |
| 22:17.14 | treke|home | perfect timing, right after the magician got mauled by one :) |
| 22:17.18 | ljp | hopefully now he will find out what its like being a caged animal |
| 22:17.25 | ljp | hehee yep |
| 22:18.03 | ljp | someday, the animals will rise up and revolt! |
| 22:18.22 | ljp | like au magpies |
| 22:19.39 | ljp | that fucker missed me today, but he's perched on a lightpole, and I can see he's just waiting for me |
| 22:19.59 | ljp | he knows where I work |
| 22:20.55 | treke|home | hehe |
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| 22:21.37 | treke|home | pb_: welcome back |
| 22:22.33 | pb_ | treke|home: thanks |
| 22:24.50 | treke|home | pb_: joshua said you did some l33t X hacking, get anything good done? |
| 22:25.21 | pb_ | treke|home: well, not all that eleet, but I managed to make the software rotation code go a bit faster. |
| 22:25.27 | treke|home | cool. |
| 22:25.35 | treke|home | every little bit helps |
| 22:30.15 | Taekero | ack, SDL-qte fails |
| 22:30.45 | Taekero | install -m 755 -D /home/root/buildroot-oz/build/libsdl1.2qte/src/.libs/libSDL-1.2.so.0.0.6 /home/root/buildroot-oz/output/staging/target/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.0.6 |
| 22:30.46 | Taekero | install: cannot stat `/home/root/buildroot-oz/build/libsdl1.2qte/src/.libs/libSDL-1.2.so.0.0.6': No such file or directory |
| 22:32.02 | Taekero | oh |
| 22:32.06 | Taekero | its a version difference |
| 22:32.07 | Taekero | heh |
| 22:44.56 | treke|home | "backrev ipkg - the newer one has some weird problems" |
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| 22:45.03 | treke|home | They *all* have wierd problems :) |
| 22:48.30 | ljp | heh |
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| 23:59.40 | kergoth | ugh |
| 23:59.50 | kergoth | i hate it when the line i pick at the grocery store is being run by the new guy |
