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| 00:32.03 | CIA | repository=03packages user=11kergoth@direwolf.ppp.ti.com |
| 00:32.04 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.73 Add fakeroot 0.7.5. |
| 00:35.33 | ljp | direwolf, eh |
| 00:38.57 | kergoth | yeh |
| 00:41.07 | kergoth | gb2: hmm, need to figure out how to handle installs of buildarch |
| 00:41.21 | kergoth | gb2: non-buildarch has no staging target, buildarch target needs to put binaries and libs and share there. |
| 00:41.24 | kergoth | hm |
| 01:07.29 | ljp | my linux machine is polarbear |
| 01:10.43 | ljp | which is weird, cause its subtropical here |
| 01:13.16 | gb2 | kergoth: i was thinking about toolchain-type stuff and packages of that type should have a target too |
| 01:13.31 | gb2 | so it's something like gcc_i386 or gcc_arm |
| 01:17.49 | stigger | probably because they have polarbears at surferws |
| 01:19.55 | kergoth | gb2: at a minimum, we'd want to organize staging by actual arch. staging/${ARCH}/lib and staging/${BUILD_ARCH}/bin .. |
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| 01:27.15 | Captain-Obvious | hey jeff |
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| 01:41.56 | gb2 | ok |
| 01:41.59 | gb2 | about to try xine |
| 01:44.40 | gb2 | HOLY FUCK |
| 01:45.51 | gb2 | it works |
| 01:46.05 | gb2 | and my video hardware sucks |
| 01:46.19 | gb2 | i have 1080i NBC on now |
| 01:46.40 | Captain-Obvious | heh' |
| 01:47.06 | gb2 | oops |
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| 01:47.09 | gb2 | worng window |
| 01:47.21 | gb2 | you aren't the nutballs interested in the pchdtv card i bought :P |
| 01:47.42 | Captain-Obvious | nope... go find some other nutballs to bother |
| 01:47.43 | Captain-Obvious | :P |
| 01:49.26 | gb2 | yep yep |
| 01:50.11 | kergoth | k ncurses builds again |
| 01:50.14 | kergoth | zsh builds |
| 01:55.25 | treke|home | evening |
| 01:55.41 | kergoth | we're approaching completion of the -minimal package set in oe |
| 01:55.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:55.56 | kergoth | at least, the build portion |
| 01:56.00 | kergoth | lots of deviceisms to add |
| 01:56.07 | kergoth | and packaging to split (documentation, etc) |
| 01:56.13 | treke|home | is it just me, or is asking if the zaurus has an mmu a pretty stupid question? |
| 01:56.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:56.26 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:56.26 | treke|home | I wasn under the impression that Linux didnt run on machine without them |
| 01:56.34 | kergoth | uClinux does |
| 01:56.43 | treke|home | ah |
| 01:57.14 | treke|home | maybe not quite *as* stupid |
| 01:57.43 | treke|home | although I'd tend to expect someone who even knows what an mmu is would know how to find out easily what is in the zaurus :) |
| 01:58.17 | kergoth | yea |
| 01:58.28 | CIA | repository=03packages user=11kergoth@direwolf.ppp.ti.com |
| 01:58.29 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.74 zsh-4.1.1.oe: BUGFIX: zsh compiles. ncurses-5.3.oe: BUGFIX: ncurses compiles. |
| 01:59.23 | CIA | repository=03packages user=11kergoth@direwolf.ppp.ti.com |
| 01:59.24 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.75 Install functions for expat, ipkg, and dropbear. |
| 01:59.37 | treke|home | compiled blackbox cvs today. Some cool stuff now. You can use the keyboard to navigate menus |
| 01:59.44 | Captain-Obvious | kergoth: why does one have to link their program to opie inorder for it to run? |
| 01:59.45 | treke|home | unstable as hell though |
| 01:59.48 | kergoth | gb2: so andersee told me how to get us proper perms in our packages :) |
| 02:00.02 | kergoth | Captain-Obvious: you dont, if its not an opie application. |
| 02:00.17 | kergoth | Captain-Obvious: if its an opie application, it uses libqpe. if you dont link agaisnt libqpe, you dont have the functions you need. |
| 02:01.06 | Captain-Obvious | ok... |
| 02:01.58 | kergoth | damn weather, the directv is out |
| 02:02.12 | mewyn | hate it when that happens |
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| 02:04.21 | kergoth | damnit |
| 02:04.25 | kergoth | i'm out of dishwasher detergent |
| 02:04.29 | kergoth | and am far too lazy to wash them manually |
| 02:04.51 | kergoth | bbiaf, going to the store |
| 02:09.32 | Soopaman | heh |
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| 02:51.46 | bipolar | ,,,o.0,,, |
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| 03:04.45 | ljp | hmmm |
| 03:05.01 | bipolar | hmmm, indeed. |
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| 03:37.52 | gb2 | hrm. i had a brilliant idea |
| 03:38.08 | gb2 | but i've now forgotten it :( |
| 03:38.13 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:38.16 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 03:38.45 | gb2 | i think it was the doritos i ate for dinner that made the idea vanish |
| 03:39.09 | kergoth | damn doritos. |
| 03:43.42 | ljp | hmm.. since when is opie incompatible with sharp apps? |
| 03:43.45 | treke|home | mmmh dinner |
| 03:43.49 | treke|home | ljp: ? |
| 03:44.09 | ljp | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?showtopic=5966&st=15 |
| 03:46.19 | treke|home | hehe |
| 03:53.16 | kergoth | this is shawn you're talking about |
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| 03:53.22 | kergoth | can you honestly say you're surprised? |
| 03:53.23 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:53.56 | treke|home | nope |
| 03:55.02 | treke|home | personally, i trust things people write for themselves more that stuff written just for the money :) |
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| 04:14.45 | treke|z | koyote: releasing something? |
| 04:14.56 | treke|z | kergoth: releasing something? |
| 04:15.32 | kergoth | nah :) |
| 04:16.07 | W8TVI | night |
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| 04:24.40 | W8TVI|z | would a newsreader for the zaurus be a good idea? |
| 04:25.05 | treke|home | yes |
| 04:25.25 | treke|home | as long as you mean an NNTP news reader and not some lame ass RSS thing |
| 04:25.34 | W8TVI|z | rss? |
| 04:25.42 | treke|home | good |
| 04:26.01 | W8TVI|z | our lame isp has no nntp server |
| 04:26.09 | W8TVI|z | whats rss? |
| 04:26.09 | treke|home | lame |
| 04:27.55 | W8TVI|z | whats a good console nntp reader? |
| 04:27.58 | W8TVI|z | mutt? |
| 04:28.48 | W8TVI|z | I really need to download the toolchain |
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| 04:30.10 | W8TVI|z | what is with people that make websites for/about pdas and then make them so they look crappy on them |
| 04:30.58 | W8TVI|z | my website looks good on my zaurus... and I didnt wright it with small screens in mind! |
| 04:33.32 | Jumpkick_ | anyone got opieplayer2 1.01-20030909 running on OZ? I keep getting '<<<<<<<< STOP IN LIB TRIGGERED >>>>>>>' |
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| 04:33.54 | Jumpkick_ | I have no idea what it's talking about |
| 04:34.11 | kergoth | i bet a stop in the lib was triggered. |
| 04:34.53 | treke|home | god I hate it when tv shows skip over obvious answers to drag out a situation |
| 04:35.11 | W8TVI|z | yeah |
| 04:35.26 | Jumpkick_ | kergoth: yeah, my bet is xine or something |
| 04:35.29 | Jumpkick_ | libxine |
| 04:35.56 | Jumpkick_ | but I'm running the latest from that feed.... 1.0beta12 it says at startup |
| 04:36.29 | W8TVI|z | treke they got to fill the hour you know |
| 04:36.32 | W8TVI|z | lol |
| 04:37.10 | W8TVI|z | night for real this time |
| 04:37.12 | treke|home | W8TVI|z: yup. |
| 04:37.47 | W8TVI|z | going to a funeral |
| 04:37.56 | W8TVI|z | and Im driving |
| 04:37.59 | treke|home | person a holds person b at gunpoint offering to trade valuable information in exchange for a pardon for killing person b |
| 04:38.20 | treke|home | person a waits until getting confirmation of pardon before killing person b. |
| 04:38.42 | treke|home | person c should deliver the confirmation in the form of a bullet to the head |
| 04:39.07 | W8TVI|z | Ihate mornings... got to be up at 7:30am |
| 04:39.10 | treke|home | but no, then the plot line would be over |
| 04:39.26 | kergoth | treke|home: oh you and your silly "logic" |
| 04:39.32 | kergoth | heheh |
| 04:39.33 | W8TVI|z | treke|home: yep |
| 04:39.34 | treke|home | yeah, I know |
| 04:39.58 | treke|home | any good? |
| 04:40.11 | kergoth | really good movie, but really fucking weird |
| 04:40.16 | kergoth | highly recommend it |
| 04:40.23 | kergoth | brb |
| 04:40.28 | W8TVI|z | 90 mile drive tomorw... then the text day i got to be up at 5:30am for a 180mile drive |
| 04:41.15 | W8TVI|z | why does everythingvhappen early in the morning? |
| 04:41.34 | W8TVI|z | mustleartousespacebar. |
| 04:41.42 | treke|home | W8TVI|z: I dunno |
| 04:41.55 | treke|home | W8TVI|z: Not like the dead person will really care if you wait a couple hours |
| 04:42.04 | W8TVI|z | yeh |
| 04:43.00 | W8TVI|z | its all these people that seem to LIKE mornings... |
| 04:43.50 | W8TVI|z | i dont do well untill after 11am |
| 04:44.07 | treke|home | If I had my way, my funeral would involve tossing my body in a dumpster and partying |
| 04:44.16 | W8TVI|z | heh |
| 04:44.53 | gb2 | party on, treke! |
| 04:45.01 | treke|home | hell yeah |
| 04:45.09 | W8TVI|z | well... I guess I should head to bed... |
| 04:45.48 | treke|home | oh cool. They used my idea |
| 04:45.55 | kergoth | who did? |
| 04:46.05 | treke|home | strike previous comments about shitty ass writing from the record |
| 04:46.12 | W8TVI|z | man... its still early... its only 12:45am |
| 04:46.28 | gb2 | treke: heh, i thought you were refering to someone using your funeral idea |
| 04:46.47 | treke|home | gb2: I'm sure someone has :) |
| 04:47.08 | treke|home | actually I'm sure many people have used the toss the body in the dumpster and party idea |
| 04:47.18 | treke|home | though I suspect it was often the killer that used it |
| 04:47.29 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:47.31 | kergoth | i'm sure |
| 04:47.34 | W8TVI|z | I.m out of here |
| 04:50.20 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:50.56 | treke|home | thank you very much, I'm hear until midnight |
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| 08:47.14 | Twiun | mornin' peeps |
| 08:48.52 | SuKoShi | hi |
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| 09:24.29 | mickeyl | morning |
| 09:25.21 | killefiz | morning mickeyl |
| 09:25.44 | killefiz | mickeyl: do you know if tslib works on ipaqs? |
| 09:28.30 | mickeyl | killefiz: check def-configs/h3600-opie and see if QT_USE_TSLIB (or so) is checked |
| 09:29.17 | killefiz | mickeyl: that is the problem: it wasn't checked - i have activated it manually |
| 09:29.40 | killefiz | i guess i'll have to rebuild qt and qte withouth tslib support |
| 09:29.51 | killefiz | my image boots - but the ts doesn't work |
| 09:30.07 | mickeyl | ibot: log |
| 09:30.09 | | it has been said that log is as piece of wood |
| 09:30.11 | mickeyl | ibot: logs |
| 09:30.13 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 09:31.30 | mickeyl | killefiz: for which ipaq? |
| 09:32.57 | mickeyl | killefiz: if it wasn't checked in the default config, the we are not yet using tslib for the ipaq. |
| 09:33.22 | cmartin | killefiz: my ipaq doesn't have tslib on it, but i have a pretty old version of OpenIpaq on it though |
| 09:33.37 | mickeyl | killefiz: fwiw, you can always peek into def-configs/individual/mickey/ipaq-opie - i used that to build images which work ;) |
| 09:33.52 | killefiz | mickeyl: 3870 i guess |
| 09:34.49 | mickeyl | killefiz: ah, no idea then, sorry. that is a slightly different config. i heard treke saying he never got to finish h3800 support in buildroot |
| 09:34.49 | cmartin | killefiz: i guess?? - look at the back of it - there should be a Model # on it |
| 09:35.04 | killefiz | cmartin: it's at home ;) |
| 09:35.07 | cmartin | k |
| 09:35.18 | mickeyl | pester treke if he's awaken |
| 09:35.21 | killefiz | mickeyl: well - the images treke produced always worked. I think it's basically a 3800 |
| 09:35.28 | killefiz | 3600 even |
| 09:35.33 | killefiz | the 3900 is "special" |
| 09:35.48 | mickeyl | if they work, then it's clear. recompile qte without tslib support. |
| 09:35.57 | cmartin | does it have integrated bluetooth? |
| 09:36.14 | killefiz | yep - i'll do that when I get home. I'm happy that i got this far now. I have an image and the image boots - hooray |
| 09:36.19 | killefiz | cmartin: yes it has bt |
| 09:36.43 | killefiz | bt even works ;) |
| 09:36.43 | cmartin | then it is probably a 3870 |
| 09:37.11 | cmartin | the other 38xx versions had no bt |
| 09:37.43 | killefiz | it's a nice little device and i'd like to make it my main pda as everything runs much, much faster with a current kernel |
| 09:37.52 | killefiz | (compared to my z 5500) |
| 09:38.08 | cmartin | does the 3870 have xscale |
| 09:38.25 | cmartin | i still use a 3660 |
| 09:38.32 | killefiz | cmartin: iirc it's a plain old strongarm |
| 09:39.20 | cmartin | k, then it is the same as 36xx with a better battery, display, bt and sd-slot |
| 09:39.21 | killefiz | the only thing i hate about it is that i'd need a pcmcia sleeve to do wlan :( |
| 09:39.22 | SuKoShi | OZ buildroot only can build gcc2.95.3 crosscompiler right? |
| 09:39.43 | killefiz | cmartin: yes - it has a li-polymer battery |
| 09:40.25 | cmartin | killefiz: but i have one of those power batteries in my iPaq for the last 8 months - it's great |
| 09:41.31 | mickeyl | Sugar: it can, however why not just downloading it ;) |
| 09:41.40 | killefiz | my problem is that the ipaq is not my ipaq - i borrowed it from my boss. I don't plan to return it anytime soon but i won't buy accessories for it either. |
| 09:41.40 | mickeyl | SuKoShi: or do you need it for something else than x86 ? |
| 09:41.58 | SuKoShi | no |
| 09:42.01 | SuKoShi | i mean |
| 09:42.13 | SuKoShi | i need a dev environment for qtopia |
| 09:42.21 | SuKoShi | so i've read docs.zaurus.com |
| 09:42.26 | SuKoShi | compiler setup |
| 09:42.31 | SuKoShi | i've got everything i need |
| 09:42.56 | SuKoShi | except that i need gcc2.95.3 for x86 to test it |
| 09:44.05 | mickeyl | the save a bit of time and get a precompile 2.95.3 |
| 09:44.10 | mickeyl | s/the/then |
| 09:44.27 | SuKoShi | any idea where to find one? |
| 09:44.32 | mickeyl | ibot: toolchain |
| 09:44.33 | | i guess toolchain is at http://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/arm/toolchain, or see factoid other-toolchains |
| 09:44.40 | mickeyl | ibot: oz toolchain |
| 09:44.41 | | oz toolchain is probably http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 09:45.06 | SuKoShi | i already have arm toolchain |
| 09:45.20 | SuKoShi | i just need i686-linux-gcc |
| 09:45.32 | SuKoShi | to test before crosscompiling |
| 09:45.44 | SuKoShi | and it is a real pain to have two gcc version with gentoo |
| 09:46.35 | yeiazel | use a real programming language, like python ! |
| 09:46.53 | mickeyl | yahoo |
| 09:47.06 | yeiazel | heh :) |
| 09:47.09 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 09:47.49 | mickeyl | SuKoShi: oh you're looking for a x86-gcc. hmm... should be able to extract one out of RPMs ? |
| 09:48.05 | SuKoShi | maybe ? |
| 09:48.22 | SuKoShi | hoping that it will no crash my existing gcc |
| 09:48.32 | mickeyl | that i don't understand |
| 09:48.34 | SuKoShi | maybe i could take one from RH$B!)(B |
| 09:48.35 | mickeyl | you _have_ a gcc ? |
| 09:48.41 | mickeyl | x86->x86 |
| 09:48.42 | mickeyl | ? |
| 09:48.46 | SuKoShi | yes |
| 09:48.47 | mickeyl | then why not use that |
| 09:48.50 | SuKoShi | gcc3.3.1 |
| 09:48.57 | SuKoShi | it doesn't work |
| 09:49.02 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 09:49.05 | SuKoShi | since there are some ABI changes |
| 09:49.07 | mickeyl | ok, then you don't have one - litereally |
| 09:49.31 | mickeyl | try grabbin one out of the mandrake packages |
| 09:49.39 | mickeyl | or even redhat (ugh) |
| 09:49.47 | SuKoShi | mandrake |
| 09:50.11 | SuKoShi | ok it's time for me to go to work (eh ouais yeiazel) |
| 09:50.16 | SuKoShi | so i'll check tonight |
| 09:50.18 | SuKoShi | thanks |
| 09:50.31 | yeiazel | work ? you *work* ? |
| 09:50.33 | yeiazel | wow :) |
| 09:50.52 | SuKoShi | sorry, sometimes happen |
| 09:50.54 | SuKoShi | ;) |
| 09:51.13 | SuKoShi | arriver a 13h ca va le faire :p j'ai jamais fait pire |
| 09:51.16 | SuKoShi | a part de pas y aller |
| 09:57.40 | SuKoShi | Sharp has just released latest rom (1.50JP) kernel source code |
| 09:57.41 | SuKoShi | http://more.sbc.co.jp/sl_j/source/source_dl.htm |
| 09:58.45 | cmartin | SuKoShi: i thought that was one of the strengths of gentoo, that you can install different versions of a given software parrallel |
| 09:59.16 | SuKoShi | cmartin: maybe, but i don't know how :x |
| 09:59.27 | SuKoShi | gcc wants to be in /usr/bin |
| 09:59.35 | SuKoShi | ok, time to go |
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| 12:11.44 | mickeyl | ibot: logs |
| 12:11.45 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 14:36.38 | Twiun | is it me or are things particularly quiet these days? |
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| 14:56.28 | prh | hmmm when doing make image I get: |
| 14:56.30 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.30 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.30 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.30 | prh | pkg_depends.c:164: satisfying_pkg=0x80964b8 |
| 14:56.37 | prh | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libopieobex0: |
| 14:56.38 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.26 | prh | qlf-bitstream-fera-full and -light are both built, and I have set CONFIG_INSTALL_QPF-BITSTREAM-VERA-FULL=y |
| 14:58.06 | cmartin | delete one of them, since they supply the same thing |
| 14:58.44 | Twiun | ipkg gets confused as they both have equal weight |
| 14:59.21 | prh | ahh |
| 15:00.47 | killefiz | prh: what device are you building for? |
| 15:05.55 | prh | shepherd |
| 15:06.42 | nightfire | anyone ever come up with a good way for dealing with gcc2/gcc3 binary compatibility? |
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| 15:07.12 | nightfire | i guess i should say incompatibility :) |
| 15:08.40 | kergoth | nightfire: compat packages have been built and work.. |
| 15:08.51 | nightfire | kergoth: how does the linker know which one to choose? |
| 15:08.54 | kergoth | nightfire: just no opie integration for selecting which to use, and no app to look at the abi of the binary to determine which it is |
| 15:08.58 | kergoth | right now it doesnt |
| 15:09.02 | kergoth | you use a wrapper script |
| 15:09.09 | nightfire | ah |
| 15:10.52 | nightfire | that would be a neat extension to ld |
| 15:11.03 | nightfire | compiler version tags or something |
| 15:11.20 | Twiun | patches wel... you know the song :) |
| 15:12.29 | kergoth | well, there is library symbol versioning, but that doesnt really apply to a different c++ abi |
| 15:12.30 | nightfire | hmm |
| 15:12.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:12.44 | nightfire | ah, good point |
| 15:14.11 | cyn_ | kergoth: if someones using the testing feed they don't need to do some fix to change 'architecture' somewhere or anything right, as long as they're pointed at the feed it should work fine? got a guy in #oz havin probs and its clearly not a problem with the feeds [i checked, they're fine] |
| 15:14.37 | cyn_ | thought I remembered something about an architecture somethin or other - might've been a buildroot thing tho which - obviously - wouldn't apply |
| 15:14.40 | kergoth | architecture will prevent installation |
| 15:14.45 | kergoth | but it will still _list_ those packages |
| 15:14.49 | kergoth | is that what he's seeing |
| 15:14.50 | kergoth | ? |
| 15:14.52 | cyn_ | yeah he gets them listed but it wont install |
| 15:14.57 | kergoth | yeah, thatll do it |
| 15:15.00 | cyn_ | says not found |
| 15:15.07 | kergoth | the ipkg in 3.2 doesnt support arch |
| 15:15.11 | kergoth | so you need to upgrade ipkg, then the rest |
| 15:15.20 | kergoth | or just have him flash an experimental image from mickey or something |
| 15:15.50 | cyn_ | thx |
| 15:15.59 | kergoth | np |
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| 15:27.38 | treke|home | shoot |
| 15:27.51 | treke|home | forgot to restart my build after removing module-init-tools |
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| 15:46.10 | Twiun | blurb updated, comments welcome |
| 15:47.18 | kergoth | hey, much nicer |
| 15:47.33 | kergoth | I like the '...extends the capabilities of...' |
| 15:47.34 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:47.48 | Twiun | gotta appeal to the managers too :) |
| 15:47.56 | kergoth | indeed |
| 15:48.11 | Twiun | anything to make us lazy slobs do more work I suppose |
| 15:48.16 | kergoth | as soon as i fix my vmware, i'll test it under cygwin |
| 15:48.37 | Twiun | great. what version vmware? |
| 15:52.03 | kergoth | umm not sure. i think its 4somethingorother |
| 15:52.17 | kergoth | yeah, 4.0.0 build-4460 |
| 15:53.15 | Twiun | yeah, 4.0 was a definite improvement on 3.x |
| 15:54.07 | kergoth | my mental 'tobuy' list is far, far too long. |
| 15:54.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:54.26 | Twiun | lol, mine's written - not mental, I'd never remember that many things |
| 15:54.43 | kergoth | i dont |
| 15:54.47 | kergoth | which is best, really. |
| 15:54.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:54.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:55.05 | Twiun | so... anything else I should add to the blurb? |
| 15:55.12 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 15:55.30 | Twiun | as this is pretty generic and vapourware kind of stuff atm |
| 16:00.15 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:02.10 | Twiun | wb mickeyl |
| 16:02.36 | mickeyl | re |
| 16:02.38 | mickeyl | thanx |
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| 16:03.15 | Twiun | mickeyl: check out the blurb - need some comments to help me work on it |
| 16:04.20 | mickeyl | Twiun: will do. becoming familiar with OE is on my schedule for the weekend, so after that i can comment. |
| 16:05.26 | kergoth | mickeyl: we need a marketing blurb, focusing on the goals and general functionality |
| 16:05.33 | kergoth | mickeyl: not the implementation specifics :) |
| 16:05.43 | mickeyl | kergoth: ah, well to that i can contribute :D |
| 16:06.46 | Twiun | mickeyl: at the moment it sounds very vapouyr |
| 16:06.51 | kergoth | mickeyl: OpenEmbeddedBlurb on oe wiki |
| 16:06.55 | Twiun | vapouyr==vapourwarish |
| 16:09.17 | Twiun | ~lart laptop keyboards |
| 16:12.40 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:12.59 | kergoth | I wonder if we should mention that OE is useful for devs doing builds for themselves, and testers doing builds for test runs |
| 16:13.07 | kergoth | since it isnt just for the build and release folks |
| 16:15.00 | Twiun | hmmm for that though we'd probably have to show at least one test framework integrated |
| 16:15.10 | Twiun | as an example if nothing else |
| 16:15.47 | kergoth | we discussed that some in TI here, the test folks would like to see a control interface to a build daemon that they can just push off a build of a package to |
| 16:16.08 | Twiun | but that's pretty much what a build engineer does usually |
| 16:16.30 | Twiun | so it's not really the tester who's making the run |
| 16:16.38 | Twiun | he justs uses the output |
| 16:16.39 | kergoth | true. then its really only the dev that it benefits |
| 16:16.47 | kergoth | we could mention automation |
| 16:17.00 | kergoth | easy automated builds & the like |
| 16:17.12 | Twiun | should we mention maybes or just hard achievements? |
| 16:17.36 | kergoth | well, we're sorta defining our goals here |
| 16:17.40 | kergoth | since we're in teh middle of development |
| 16:17.47 | kergoth | we _can_ have these things by release time |
| 16:17.47 | Twiun | true |
| 16:18.05 | kergoth | so its really a question of what we _want_ to acheive and think we can within a reasonable release cycle |
| 16:18.18 | Twiun | hmmm... webmin interface for the control? |
| 16:18.41 | kergoth | not a bad idea |
| 16:18.42 | mickeyl | would be cool |
| 16:20.01 | kergoth | I think itd be good to really give thought to exact what featureset a company would see as most beneficial |
| 16:20.09 | kergoth | so we can push off the other 'woudl be nice's to further down |
| 16:20.29 | Twiun | yeah |
| 16:20.44 | Twiun | depending on what TI is willing to have public, they'd be a good testbed |
| 16:20.57 | Twiun | I'll poll my companies to see on this end |
| 16:21.04 | kergoth | hmm thats true. |
| 16:26.13 | Twiun | it's true enough that it's better to provide what businesses ask for rather than guess |
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| 16:33.00 | kergoth | heh, our 3.3.1 snapshot flew away |
| 16:33.09 | kergoth | guess i shoudl fix that |
| 16:33.51 | treke_ | wwhat happened to the 3.3.1 snapshot? |
| 16:34.02 | kergoth | removfed |
| 16:34.05 | kergoth | there are gcc 3.4 snapshots up |
| 16:34.31 | treke_ | guh |
| 16:34.43 | kergoth | is 3.3.1 released? |
| 16:34.44 | treke_ | can't the keep a freaking snapshot up long enough for me to do a build? :p |
| 16:34.54 | kergoth | if so, can switch to that and add 3.4 to buildroot |
| 16:35.04 | kergoth | building a chain? |
| 16:35.12 | treke_ | I was |
| 16:35.22 | treke_ | 3.3.1 was release august 8 |
| 16:35.24 | kergoth | i was gonna build a x86 -> x86 cross chain in /usr/local/x86 |
| 16:35.33 | kergoth | so i can have a 3.x gcc on my rh73 box |
| 16:35.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:35.58 | treke_ | welcome to september |
| 16:36.07 | kergoth | heheh |
| 16:36.47 | kergoth | ooo np contributed his arm float stuff? |
| 16:36.50 | kergoth | eeexcellent |
| 16:38.36 | kergoth | gah, you know what pisses me off |
| 16:38.47 | kergoth | is bk cant add a directory, since it normally doesnt need to, you just add a new file within that dir |
| 16:38.50 | kergoth | BUT |
| 16:38.57 | kergoth | bk cp wont make the new dir exist the way bk add does |
| 16:39.07 | kergoth | so i cant copy a file into a new empty dir and retain metadata |
| 16:40.03 | Twiun | ack |
| 16:40.07 | cyn_ | could you bk add a useless file, copy the existing one in to maintain data, then just remove the useless one ? |
| 16:40.14 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:40.18 | kergoth | thats what ya end up having to do |
| 16:40.20 | kergoth | its a pain in the ass |
| 16:40.22 | cyn_ | don't you love shoddy workarounds |
| 16:40.25 | kergoth | cause that adds more crap to Bitkeeper/deleted |
| 16:40.30 | kergoth | which already has too mcuh cruft |
| 16:40.36 | cyn_ | alias forfuckssake="bk blah blah blahblahblahblahblahblahblhablblahblahblh" heh |
| 16:40.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:41.01 | cyn_ | bk add newdir/cruft |
| 16:41.49 | cyn_ | that's shitty tho, they should fix it - coz otherwise you're losing metadata and a main point of a source control system is to retain just that |
| 16:42.04 | cyn_ | also: I love apt-listbugs |
| 16:42.34 | treke_ | shoot. forgot my cf card :( |
| 16:42.51 | kergoth | cyn_: yeah, its an annoying bug. guess i should report it. i've hit it on multiple occasions |
| 16:42.57 | kergoth | and we'll hit it _really_ often in OE |
| 16:43.07 | kergoth | due to the way patches and other files are stored |
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| 16:52.05 | killefiz | treke_: is my assumption "oz/ipaq does not work with tslib" right? |
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| 16:55.19 | treke_ | good question. Never tried it. It's been on my todolist though |
| 16:55.59 | pb_ | hello world of #openembedded |
| 16:56.04 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
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| 16:59.18 | killefiz | treke_: ok - at least it doesn't work out of the box - my ipaq image boots but doesn't accept ts input |
| 16:59.32 | killefiz | i'll recompile with tslib turned off now |
| 16:59.36 | kergoth | that isnst surprising, that doesnt mean it fails though |
| 16:59.50 | kergoth | tslib obeys environment variables to control what ts structure is used |
| 17:00.23 | kergoth | export TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE = H3600 |
| 17:00.32 | kergoth | expot TSLIB_TSDEVICE = /dev/path/to/ts |
| 17:00.36 | kergoth | export rather |
| 17:00.40 | kergoth | then try ts_print_raw |
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| 17:06.52 | killefiz | this doesnt look right - tslib-tools is not installed and TSLIB_TSDEVICE was set to /dev/h3600_ts but /dev/h3600_ts does not exist (only /dev/h3600_tsraw) |
| 17:07.51 | kergoth | ibot: nslookup sources.redhat.com |
| 17:07.58 | kergoth | well, you need tslib-tools to debug the problem |
| 17:08.24 | killefiz | i'm transferring it over right now - but shouldn't /dev/h3600_ts be there? |
| 17:08.40 | kergoth | i dont even own an ipaq, you're asking me? |
| 17:08.49 | kergoth | try pointing the tslib device to the raw |
| 17:08.53 | kergoth | with TSLIB_TSDEVICE |
| 17:08.59 | treke_ | point it at /dev/touchscreen/0 |
| 17:09.00 | killefiz | k |
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| 17:19.13 | treke_ | eew. fluxbox uses the nasty decoration order |
| 17:20.38 | killefiz | ok - i cannot get any output from ts_print_raw |
| 17:21.25 | kergoth | nothing when you tap? |
| 17:21.30 | killefiz | nope |
| 17:21.43 | kergoth | guess it doesnt work atm on ipaq then |
| 17:22.03 | killefiz | yep - i'll recompile with tslib turned off now |
| 17:22.18 | kergoth | k tslib is in OE now |
| 17:22.54 | kergoth | next is diff & irda-common |
| 17:23.06 | kergoth | treke_: push what you have of dosfstools and e2fsprogs when you get a chance |
| 17:23.11 | killefiz | is there anything except for qte that i have to rebuild? |
| 17:23.12 | treke_ | k |
| 17:23.21 | kergoth | i want to nfsroot my Z on a rootfs built by OE soon |
| 17:27.39 | cyn_ | kergoth: the idea that you could keep trying stuff without having to constantly reflash? |
| 17:27.53 | kergoth | that and there's no oe image building tool |
| 17:27.55 | kergoth | and i'm lazy |
| 17:28.05 | cyn_ | and wicked. |
| 17:36.12 | gb2 | laziness has a way of ruling all |
| 17:36.37 | kergoth | so theres a new gui available now. we have opie, qtopia, x, picogui, and pixil. awaiting patches for the latter |
| 17:36.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:37.11 | pb_ | cool |
| 17:39.28 | kergoth | drand48_r.c:30: internal compiler error: Aborted |
| 17:39.29 | kergoth | Please submit a full bug report, |
| 17:39.29 | kergoth | with preprocessed source if appropriate. |
| 17:39.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:39.40 | kergoth | isnt using gcc snaps fun? :) |
| 17:41.41 | cyn_ | kergoth: eep - is this pixil? : http://embedded.centurysoftware.com/pixil/pixiloe.php - they have an 'oe' too just to confuse the masses |
| 17:42.38 | kergoth | yeah. see pixil.org as well |
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| 17:50.54 | scribe | Hey guys. I still get compile errors from the buildroot snapshot at downloading libc |
| 17:51.00 | scribe | any ideas what might be wrong? |
| 17:51.24 | pb_ | nope |
| 17:51.32 | pb_ | sounds like you have some problem. |
| 17:51.54 | scribe | No such directory `pub/gnu/libc'. |
| 17:52.03 | kergoth | the snapshot needs updating |
| 17:52.05 | scribe | is where make fails |
| 17:52.06 | kergoth | its in glibc not libc now |
| 17:52.21 | kergoth | its been fixed in bk for a while, the snapshot automatic update isnt workingp eroperly |
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| 17:52.53 | scribe | ok, I'm giving up on the snapshot then. |
| 17:53.24 | scribe | guess I'll try to install bitkeeper again |
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| 17:53.53 | pb_ | kergoth: btw, I have some new gpe bits, should I mail them to you? |
| 17:55.47 | kergoth | yeah. havent had time to pull the other one in yet, but yeah |
| 17:55.56 | pb_ | okay. |
| 17:56.12 | pb_ | I'm at a small impasse now, need to wait for mallum to fix staginginstall in xfree86 before I can actually link any programs. |
| 18:13.24 | scribe | --11:12:12-- ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.2.4.tar.gz |
| 18:13.26 | scribe | yeah! |
| 18:13.29 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:14.26 | scribe | kergoth: once I get stuff built, what's the easiest way to set up a build environment for my app to build against the buildroot? |
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| 18:15.25 | kergoth | just add buildroot/output/staging/target/lib to your link path and buildroot/output/staging/include to the include path |
| 18:15.39 | scribe | awesome! thank you. |
| 18:15.43 | kergoth | np |
| 18:19.37 | scribe | kergoth: can I send a file to #flood for you to look at? This is my env setup for the previous build environment (5 lines) |
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| 18:20.50 | scribe | This stuff used to setup everything for the old trolltech build env like 2 years ago. |
| 18:21.15 | kergoth | QTDIR to buildroot/build/qt-2.3.7, QPEDIR to buildroot/build/opie |
| 18:21.31 | kergoth | you need to add -I/path/to/buildroot/output/staging/include to your CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, and CXXFLAGS |
| 18:21.39 | kergoth | and -L/path/to/buildroot/output/staging/target/lib to your LDFLAGS |
| 18:21.47 | scribe | ok, great! |
| 18:23.43 | kergoth | k diffutils is in OE |
| 18:23.47 | kergoth | irda-common next |
| 18:24.16 | kergoth | hehe, if i created a gnu.oeclass, the diffutils and other gnu apps could have empty .oe's |
| 18:29.13 | kergoth | only 254 packages left! |
| 18:29.15 | kergoth | whee! |
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| 18:40.32 | chouimat | hi |
| 18:40.38 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 18:41.20 | chouimat | kergoth: spend the night trying to minise a "huge mistake" |
| 18:44.49 | kergoth | ibot: lart agupta for his php build evil hack in buildroot |
| 18:46.15 | kergoth | chouimat: buildroot->OE, 30 packages done, 254 to go |
| 18:46.24 | kergoth | or rather, mostly added. all are missing packaging and deviceism bits |
| 18:46.30 | mule_ | (hi) I've got a nutter who wants to compile opie for x86, and use it...that would work right? |
| 18:46.38 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:46.45 | mule_ | just use /dev/fb1 |
| 18:46.46 | chouimat | kergoth: hehe ... see what i did last night he said it in elinux :( |
| 18:46.47 | kergoth | can run opie on the qvfb or the linux fb |
| 18:46.57 | kergoth | chouimat: jeeze |
| 18:47.07 | mule_ | fb0 I mean......what about mouse events? |
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| 18:48.21 | noda | Moo! |
| 18:48.22 | kergoth | hey noda. |
| 18:48.22 | noda | kergoth: More problems! |
| 18:48.22 | kergoth | mule_: what about them? qvfb will handle them, i dunno about linuxfb |
| 18:48.22 | chouimat | kergoth: now I just want to get a shower and sleep a little and maybe get drunk tonight |
| 18:48.22 | noda | I guess I'll do a bk pull and try again before bugging you :) |
| 18:48.22 | kergoth | chouimat: good plan |
| 18:48.22 | kergoth | noda: good |
| 18:48.22 | mule_ | kergoth: I use qvfb now that I develop :P |
| 18:48.22 | chouimat | noda: hi |
| 18:48.22 | noda | A question about bk: If I do 'bk pull' and then 'ctrl-C', how do I un-fuck-up my repository? :) |
| 18:48.29 | noda | Entire repository is locked by: |
| 18:48.29 | noda | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.29 | noda | Cannot do pull into locked repository. |
| 18:48.33 | kergoth | rm -rf RESYNC |
| 18:48.39 | kergoth | resync is the temporary area |
| 18:48.43 | noda | Cool, thanks :) |
| 18:48.45 | kergoth | it doesnt fuck with the rest of the repos until its done everything fine there |
| 18:48.53 | noda | Clever. |
| 18:49.12 | mule_ | does bk pull update the whole thing? |
| 18:49.20 | kergoth | mule_: yes. |
| 18:49.25 | kergoth | bk pull obtains changesets from upstream |
| 18:49.29 | noda | Hey, what *are* these "keys" it looks for when doing a bk pull? |
| 18:49.33 | kergoth | there is no way to 'update' part of a repository |
| 18:49.39 | kergoth | you exchange changesets |
| 18:49.47 | kergoth | which may or may not touch any part of the repos |
| 18:50.11 | kergoth | noda: identifying value associated with deltas or files, afaik. look in ChangeSet. those lines are each keys |
| 18:50.25 | mule_ | I guess oe fixes all that |
| 18:50.35 | noda | /usr/local/arm/3.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.1/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: libaqpkg.so.1.0.0: undefined versioned symbol name std::time_put_w@@GLIBCPP_3.2 |
| 18:50.35 | noda | /usr/local/arm/3.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.1/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Bad value |
| 18:50.35 | noda | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 18:51.10 | kergoth | yep, we know about that |
| 18:51.14 | noda | I'm using the 3.3 toolchain on openzaurus.org/official/toolchain |
| 18:51.15 | noda | Oh. |
| 18:51.15 | kergoth | no, there isnt a solution atm afaik |
| 18:51.27 | noda | But I need opie.... so I gotta rebuild with 3.2? |
| 18:51.42 | kergoth | 3.2? |
| 18:51.45 | noda | gcc |
| 18:51.49 | kergoth | uh |
| 18:51.57 | noda | Oh, you mean, there's NO way to build? |
| 18:51.57 | kergoth | will that fix it? |
| 18:51.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:52.03 | kergoth | gcc2 will definately work |
| 18:52.12 | kergoth | nothing is guaranteed on teh 3.x front with opie cvs atm |
| 18:52.33 | noda | Well that just sucks :( |
| 18:52.48 | noda | Should I make mrproper? |
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| 18:53.27 | noda | Or will the buildroot just "know" what to rebuild? |
| 18:54.21 | kergoth | buildroot doesnt _re_build anything |
| 18:54.23 | kergoth | it builds |
| 18:54.24 | kergoth | thats it. |
| 18:54.41 | kergoth | if opie's buildsystem sees an object already exists, its done. it doesnt remove it. |
| 18:54.42 | treke | cool. Buildroot compiled with no interaction other than removing module-init-tools |
| 18:54.47 | noda | Okay. |
| 18:55.03 | kergoth | wtf, my x86->x86 /usr/local/x86/3.3 chain blew up |
| 18:55.21 | noda | Okay, while I'm making menuconfig: Should I enable tslib? |
| 18:55.23 | kergoth | on gcc pass two, something pulled in /lib/i686/libc-2.2.5.so instead of the libc.so in /usr/local/x86/3.3 |
| 18:55.26 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:55.32 | noda | Or will it simply not work? |
| 18:55.36 | kergoth | tslib for what? |
| 18:55.43 | kergoth | try giving me some fucking information. |
| 18:55.44 | kergoth | collie? |
| 18:55.50 | kergoth | tslib for what? |
| 18:55.50 | noda | QT/Embedded 2.3.7 |
| 18:55.51 | kergoth | qte? |
| 18:55.51 | noda | Yeah, collie |
| 18:56.01 | noda | " use tslib library for touchscreen access " |
| 18:56.04 | kergoth | might work, might not. |
| 18:56.08 | noda | Heh :) |
| 18:56.12 | noda | Won't do it then :) |
| 19:12.02 | Twiun | re |
| 19:14.58 | CIA | repository=03buildroot user=11mickeyl@gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de |
| 19:14.59 | CIA | 07ChangeSet@1.1320 start with uclibc preparations |
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| 19:21.39 | noda | Whee! I just sent an email to my 'Intro to Computers' prof, asking him if I can skip his class and correcting all the mistakes he's made so far :P |
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| 19:22.32 | treke | <professor> No. |
| 19:22.36 | noda | lol |
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| 19:22.58 | noda | treke: I thought you'd say "<professor> Not until you code the new download page" :) |
| 19:23.28 | noda | He called "=" a mathematical operator (in Java) |
| 19:24.24 | Twiun | rofl |
| 19:24.41 | Twiun | so... 3c1? |
| 19:24.56 | noda | oh yeah, and on our overview of networking, he called something a "file server" which was a switch. And said it cost thousands of dollars :P |
| 19:25.21 | noda | Twiun: Actually... glad that you mentioned that. Let's see if 2.6.0-test5 crashes when I start up PCMCIA! :) |
| 19:25.26 | Twiun | hehe |
| 19:25.42 | noda | WOOOOOO! |
| 19:25.43 | kergoth | bleh |
| 19:25.44 | noda | No crash! |
| 19:25.45 | noda | WHEEEE! |
| 19:25.52 | noda | Yay yay yay yay yay! |
| 19:25.53 | SuKoSh| | 2.6.0-5 just don't work for me |
| 19:26.13 | noda | One more problem with 2.6.0 and then I can use it with no loss in functionality over 2.4. Well, 2 things :) |
| 19:26.21 | noda | (where the FUCK have all my pty's gone...) |
| 19:26.36 | SuKoSh| | anyone here using gentoo? |
| 19:27.31 | SuKoSh| | Twiun: right to left ? or down to up? |
| 19:27.45 | noda | Funny. In my /dev, I've got [symlinks to] ptyaa, pty[0-f][0-f], but if I try to start, say, screen, I get "No more PTYs" |
| 19:27.51 | Twiun | SuKoSh|: round in circles... trying to get used to dualhead displays |
| 19:27.56 | SuKoSh| | LOL |
| 19:27.56 | noda | lol |
| 19:28.22 | Twiun | noda: sure you compiled in a nice large number of ptys? |
| 19:28.32 | Twiun | noda: just because the symlinks exist... |
| 19:28.34 | noda | 256 |
| 19:28.41 | noda | I *think*... |
| 19:28.51 | noda | I've got 0. Just the 6 virtual terminals. |
| 19:29.39 | Twiun | no idea then - but I'm a Java man... not an authority on linux ptys :) |
| 19:33.30 | kergoth | irda-utils done |
| 19:34.25 | kergoth | apmd & ifupdown next |
| 19:34.27 | Twiun | kergoth: You're burning through them |
| 19:34.37 | kergoth | anyone know where the irattach/irdaping upstream is? |
| 19:34.42 | kergoth | aka irda-common/irda-utils |
| 19:35.51 | kergoth | ah there we go |
| 19:35.53 | noda | CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS: Yuo should say Y here if you said Y to "Unix98 PTY support" above |
| 19:35.54 | kergoth | irda.sf.net |
| 19:36.09 | kergoth | noda: yeah, you need htat. they changed devpts, its no longer included implicitly with devfs. |
| 19:36.38 | noda | :) |
| 19:36.55 | noda | Hehehe, yep. "Note that devfs no longer manages /dev/pts! If you are using UNIX98 ptys, you will also need to enable (and mount) the /dev/pts filesystem |
| 19:37.25 | noda | I've never used devfs before, I decided I might as well redo everything in one shot :) |
| 19:37.38 | Twiun | kergoth: what do you think for a new wiki Node name: CommercialApplications or RequestedFeatures? |
| 19:38.11 | Twiun | kergoth: somewhere to have what we talked about |
| 19:39.22 | kergoth | not a bad idea to have somewhere to collect the ideas |
| 19:39.53 | pb_ | ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped |
| 19:39.54 | pb_ | hate that |
| 19:40.51 | kergoth | "The resolvconf package is now fit to use! If you ever used the set-nameserver-forwarders program in earlier versions of ifupdown-roaming or if you ever found yourself grumbling about some program overwriting your resolv.conf file then you should try resolvconf. " |
| 19:40.55 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:41.01 | kergoth | looks like the ifupdown-roam guy has a resolv.conf manipulator too |
| 19:41.07 | kergoth | wonder if networksettings should use that instead of its own |
| 19:42.04 | kergoth | then alter pppd to use it as well, since i hate the way it handles it |
| 19:43.04 | noda | Hey, I never heard of ifupdown-roam |
| 19:43.09 | noda | This sounds useful! |
| 19:48.58 | SuKoSh| | kergoth: did you have a look at sharp's latest kernel source code? |
| 19:53.49 | kergoth | initial ifupdown package is in OE |
| 19:53.54 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: latest code for what? |
| 19:54.06 | kergoth | noda: indeed. we have it in OZ, but never got around to testin git |
| 19:55.06 | SuKoSh| | kergoth: c700 |
| 19:55.18 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: we're using the recent shepherd sources for c700 builds. |
| 19:55.25 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: we have been ever since they released the c750 sources |
| 19:55.28 | SuKoSh| | 1.50JP (source code is newer than previous from shepherd) |
| 19:55.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:55.33 | kergoth | then no |
| 19:55.36 | SuKoSh| | :p |
| 19:55.40 | SuKoSh| | it was released today |
| 19:55.43 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:56.02 | SuKoSh| | needs a make mrproper to compile properly after untar |
| 19:56.24 | kergoth | yeah, sharp are idiots |
| 19:56.29 | kergoth | have run into that before |
| 19:56.33 | SuKoSh| | kergoth: have you ever tried MTD emulation on block device? |
| 19:56.41 | kergoth | blkmtd? for what? |
| 19:56.48 | kergoth | if you think on cf or sd, dont. |
| 19:56.51 | noda | Reading the README now. Might put this on my laptop... |
| 19:57.00 | SuKoSh| | ok, why? |
| 19:57.03 | SuKoSh| | too slow? |
| 19:57.10 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: read the linux-mtd mailing list archives, and other places |
| 19:57.16 | SuKoSh| | ok |
| 19:57.36 | kergoth | heh, every one of these .oe's is going to need close examination |
| 19:57.39 | kergoth | for the post-build bits |
| 19:57.47 | kergoth | packaging and deviceism |
| 19:58.30 | scribe | kergoth: buildroot is still building. Will I get a libz.a in buildroot/output/staging/lib/ ? I don't seem to have anything in there yet. |
| 19:58.43 | kergoth | scribe: did i say staging/lib |
| 19:58.48 | kergoth | scribe: fuck no, i didnt. |
| 19:58.52 | kergoth | scribe: scroll up, read again |
| 19:59.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:59.05 | scribe | I thought I cut and pasted. |
| 19:59.16 | kergoth | no, you didnt. |
| 19:59.19 | kergoth | i said staging/target/lib |
| 19:59.24 | kergoth | as you'd see if you scrolled up |
| 20:00.08 | scribe | :) battery died about an hour ago and I rejoined, but I trust you. I'll change it... |
| 20:00.26 | kergoth | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/resolvconf.html |
| 20:00.33 | kergoth | thats pretty damn cool right there. |
| 20:01.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:01.25 | kergoth | okay okay i'll add the rest of minimal first |
| 20:01.54 | kergoth | netbase next, then the ftp client, pppd, ntpdate, and wireless-tools |
| 20:02.08 | kergoth | then all thats remaining are treke's filesystem tool .oe's, and the kernels and kernel module packages |
| 20:02.20 | kergoth | then we can test an OE build rootfs with nfsroot |
| 20:03.25 | Twiun | just write yourself a list on the wiki and add new items to the bottom |
| 20:03.42 | kergoth | using oe/doc/TODO |
| 20:03.46 | kergoth | atm |
| 20:03.51 | kergoth | in the oe repos |
| 20:03.51 | Twiun | good enough :) |
| 20:04.13 | Twiun | probably a good idea to make it reasonably difficult for others to add to it :) |
| 20:04.49 | Twiun | hehe |
| 20:05.37 | Twiun | kergoth: got yourself a dualhead setup at work? |
| 20:05.44 | kergoth | they're so much _talk_. its all well and good to design, but some development lends itself best to iterative |
| 20:05.47 | kergoth | ah well |
| 20:05.50 | kergoth | nah, jsut the lappie here |
| 20:06.43 | Twiun | I realised today that the lappie can dualhead with a crt... |
| 20:06.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:06.56 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:07.07 | Twiun | maybe yours can? |
| 20:07.26 | kergoth | could be, would be nice, particularly when i'm doing both kernel & build work |
| 20:07.43 | kergoth | i hate having to switch back & forth |
| 20:07.45 | kergoth | heheh |
| 20:08.30 | kergoth | I need more of you guys working on OE package conversions |
| 20:08.37 | kergoth | so I can dedicate more time to fixing the core |
| 20:08.54 | Twiun | This weekend, I promised :) |
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| 20:09.49 | kergoth | hey bisho |
| 20:09.59 | bisho | hi kergoth |
| 20:10.01 | bisho | :) |
| 20:10.02 | Twiun | probably - otherwise you'll get ones "I clicked my mouse in explorer, but OE doesn't work" |
| 20:10.06 | Twiun | hey bisho |
| 20:10.25 | kergoth | Twiun: right. I know you guys have enough clue to figure it out, or to pester me incessently if you cant |
| 20:10.29 | kergoth | with reasonable questions |
| 20:10.34 | kergoth | i cant trust that with most of the list ppl |
| 20:10.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:11.58 | kergoth | we really need request tracker actually up & running and usable |
| 20:12.43 | kergoth | open a 'convert buildroot packages' ticket, and have its children be the tickets to track progress on the packages themselves |
| 20:12.48 | Twiun | did you get any answers re: php webmaster? |
| 20:12.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:14.21 | kergoth | not really |
| 20:14.34 | kergoth | i wonder how one would go about keeping db's in sync if we were to use multiple web mirrors |
| 20:14.39 | kergoth | with dns round robin |
| 20:15.33 | treke | I'd say use one definitive upstream metadata source |
| 20:15.56 | treke | and have the mirrors sync off of it at regular intervals |
| 20:16.13 | kergoth | for the openzaurus.org web, or for our package metadata, or both? :) |
| 20:16.16 | kergoth | probably a good idea |
| 20:16.42 | treke | Does openzaurus.org really need to be mirrored? The package source and meta data is what I see needing mirroring |
| 20:17.20 | kergoth | yeah, probably not |
| 20:17.27 | kergoth | i dont see us getting pounded by /. anytime soon |
| 20:19.02 | kergoth | ugh, 3pm, havent eaten a damn thin gotday |
| 20:19.07 | kergoth | thing today rather |
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| 20:36.09 | treke | hmmm. I need an OE build status gdesklet :) |
| 20:42.08 | scribe | Hey guys, make[1]: Entering directory `/space/home/scribe/src/buildroot-oz/packages/libxine' |
| 20:42.09 | scribe | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.xine.sf.net/cvsroot/xine co -r xine-1-beta12-release xine-lib |
| 20:42.09 | scribe | cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 20:42.39 | mickeyl | retry until it works |
| 20:42.47 | mickeyl | sf.net limits concurrent anonymous checkouts |
| 20:43.34 | treke | Sourceforge is a pain in the ass |
| 20:45.15 | kergoth`food | ibot: sourceforge |
| 20:45.16 | | hmm... sourceforge is crap |
| 20:45.26 | kergoth`food | ibot: sourceforge is also a pain in the ass |
| 20:45.27 | | kergoth`food: okay |
| 20:45.30 | scribe | mickeyl: :) thanks. it's working now. |
| 20:56.19 | Twiun | must be getting good at it by now... not so challenging anymore, eh? |
| 20:56.47 | treke | just like playing ffx |
| 20:56.54 | treke | no matter how good you get, it still sucks |
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| 21:02.08 | mickeyl | wb andersee |
| 21:02.17 | mickeyl | or rather "good morning"? ) |
| 21:02.19 | andersee | mickeyl: morning |
| 21:11.01 | kergoth | k libjpeg and openssl go from upstream now. brought the debian changes local |
| 21:11.25 | kergoth | only a couple others, then the only ones using them will be things for which thats the only known upstream location |
| 21:11.47 | mickeyl | good thing |
| 21:11.57 | mickeyl | that reduces playing the catch-up game |
| 21:12.34 | kergoth | indeed |
| 21:12.49 | kergoth | we do need a way to keep up though. scripts to monitor remote upstream locations for new versions or something |
| 21:13.12 | gb2 | self-maintaining software! |
| 21:13.14 | gb2 | ;) |
| 21:13.31 | kergoth | heheh, anything to reduce our wasted time is a Good Thing |
| 21:13.38 | mickeyl | kergoth: if we are there, i'm sure i can come up with some things. |
| 21:14.14 | kergoth | thing is, it only works for upstreams that we can easily get a list of files from |
| 21:14.18 | kergoth | ftp is a breeze |
| 21:14.27 | tronical | kergoth: one idea I had wrt the debian revision changes and the oe catchup is: one could instead of specifying a revision in the build file specify the debian branch (woody/sarge/sid) and get the right revision out of branch's Packages file |
| 21:14.43 | mickeyl | ah right |
| 21:14.47 | mickeyl | i remember |
| 21:14.49 | mickeyl | that was a good idea |
| 21:15.05 | mickeyl | at least for the packages which we don't patch |
| 21:15.13 | mickeyl | we're lost on upgrade for these anyway |
| 21:15.19 | kergoth | well, i dont want that directly in the .oe's, thats too .. dynamic |
| 21:15.23 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 21:15.29 | kergoth | but seperate scripts for monitoring distributions upstream is good |
| 21:15.39 | kergoth | not just debian even.. scripts to see what everybody else is up to |
| 21:15.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:15.50 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 21:15.56 | mickeyl | all the info is there |
| 21:15.59 | mickeyl | in the metadata |
| 21:16.07 | mickeyl | so the scripts can monitor every source |
| 21:16.12 | mickeyl | hmmm |
| 21:16.14 | mickeyl | coolness |
| 21:16.23 | mickeyl | and we get a mail if an upstream changes |
| 21:16.28 | kergoth | yeah. "debian just changed package X to blah" |
| 21:16.31 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 21:16.32 | mickeyl | cool |
| 21:16.33 | kergoth | "redhat just added package Y" |
| 21:16.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:16.37 | kergoth | thatd be smooth |
| 21:16.38 | tronical | kergoth: the .oe files I saw up to now are absolutely impressive. impressively empty :) . very nice work! |
| 21:16.57 | kergoth | tronical: gotta love clarity :) thanks |
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| 21:19.12 | gb2 | "0-day package available!" |
| 21:20.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:20.33 | kergoth | wonder if anything like that exists already, like a web site that monitors distribution activity |
| 21:20.49 | kergoth | course we'll monitor more than just distributiosn, but.. |
| 21:22.47 | gb2 | A friend of mine was going to set one up |
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| 21:23.44 | gb2 | we acquired changelog.org for it. |
| 21:23.51 | gb2 | then we got lazy |
| 21:23.55 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:23.57 | gb2 | and my friend let the domain lapse |
| 21:24.00 | gb2 | so now someone else has it |
| 21:24.10 | kergoth | well that sucks, if we're gonna do the work anyway... |
| 21:24.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:24.35 | gb2 | it was going to be a sort of global project status board |
| 21:24.48 | gb2 | with RSS feeds and such |
| 21:24.51 | kergoth | so one place to consolodate release announcements |
| 21:24.55 | kergoth | thatd rule |
| 21:24.57 | gb2 | yep |
| 21:24.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:25.06 | gb2 | it requires work though |
| 21:25.11 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:26.10 | collord | i'd like to see that happen\ |
| 21:26.38 | gb2 | i'd love to see it, yeah. |
| 21:26.45 | collord | is there a spec or description somewhere? |
| 21:26.49 | gb2 | i don't think i want to be the one stuck maintaining it all |
| 21:26.57 | kergoth | we're going to write the tools anyway to ease OE distro maintainance.. |
| 21:27.11 | kergoth | yeah, it wouldnt be perfect, and would need a fair bit of monitoring itself |
| 21:27.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:27.51 | kergoth | unless you just get the projects to cc a gatway on the release announcement with a certain format |
| 21:27.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:30.24 | gb2 | kergoth: yeah, we envisioned both push and pull models for status updates |
| 21:30.37 | gb2 | ideally projects push their status |
| 21:30.54 | gb2 | but for other projects, someone could maintain a puller |
| 21:31.16 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:31.17 | kergoth | exactly |
| 21:31.51 | gb2 | which i guess is.. periodically scan project, if changes, push a change announce to the push receiver system. |
| 21:31.59 | gb2 | and the puller could actually run anywhere. |
| 21:47.47 | kergoth | heh, getting ncurses pulling from upstream was kinda a pain |
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| 21:47.58 | kergoth | the guy who does the 5.3+ dated snaps does them incrementally |
| 21:48.06 | kergoth | the rolled up ones are _shell scripts_ not patches |
| 21:48.08 | kergoth | wtf is up with that. |
| 21:48.16 | treke | wtf |
| 21:48.23 | kergoth | had to pull the incrementals down, use patcher to apply them in sequence, then diff the trees |
| 21:48.31 | kergoth | cause his scripts didnt like me |
| 21:48.37 | treke | get them from debian? |
| 21:48.51 | kergoth | ftp://dickey.his.com/ncurses/5.3/ |
| 21:48.53 | kergoth | look at that crap |
| 21:49.02 | kergoth | thats the upstream snaps debian uses |
| 21:49.17 | kergoth | nah, i'm just going to cache it locally in our repos instead |
| 21:49.22 | kergoth | the less external deps the better |
| 21:49.33 | kergoth | at least, until we have our own source mirrors, at which point we could drop it there |
| 21:50.31 | kergoth | NOTE: package ncurses-5.3.20030906-r0: task do_package_tarball succeeded |
| 21:50.34 | kergoth | heh! |
| 21:50.39 | kergoth | figured i'd update us to the latest snap |
| 21:50.46 | kergoth | we were able to ditch 3 of our patches in doing so |
| 21:50.50 | kergoth | yay for fixes upstream |
| 21:50.57 | treke | kergoth: what about pcmcia-cs? Are we using an old version purposefully? |
| 21:51.11 | kergoth | treke: mickey thought the orinoco segfault issue was pcmcia-cs |
| 21:51.17 | kergoth | treke: turned out it was the pcmcia-modules |
| 21:51.22 | kergoth | so we can grab the latest again |
| 21:51.36 | kergoth | since all the oe supported devices are using in kernel pcmcia, not pcmcia-cs pcmci modules |
| 21:51.37 | mickeyl | kergoth: yeah, modules. |
| 21:51.43 | treke | wait. now we're using 3.2.3 |
| 21:51.44 | mickeyl | any idea _why_ ? |
| 21:51.51 | kergoth | not offhand.. |
| 21:52.04 | mickeyl | ha! |
| 21:52.12 | kergoth | an oops accompanied your insmod segfault right? |
| 21:52.12 | mickeyl | then finish 2.6 ;) |
| 21:52.15 | kergoth | i'd need to see that decoded |
| 21:52.18 | mickeyl | right. |
| 21:52.23 | mickeyl | that was it. |
| 21:52.30 | treke | I keep breaking my machine when I remove module-init-tools then reboot :p |
| 21:53.23 | kergoth | dont remove module-init-tools :P |
| 21:53.33 | kergoth | "doc, it hurts when i do this..." |
| 21:54.07 | treke | hehe, actually there was a reason for that. The version string it was returning was lower than our pcmcia-cs expects and I'm to lazy to patch the configure script |
| 21:54.38 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 21:55.05 | kergoth | oh, i've taken the stance of patching configure when we patch configure.{ac,in} to avoid having to call auto* when we dont have to |
| 21:55.09 | kergoth | that seem reasonable to everybody? |
| 21:55.21 | kergoth | sometimes that isnt feasable, like cvs sources that dont include them, like tslib |
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| 21:55.42 | kergoth | should speed up builds somewhat, not having to execute auto* when not needed |
| 21:56.11 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm... isn't it better homogenizing all those maybe darn old ./configures due to auto* them? |
| 21:57.10 | kergoth | uh |
| 21:57.18 | kergoth | old configure tend to accompany old configure.{in,ac} |
| 21:57.25 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 21:57.28 | mickeyl | that's a point |
| 21:57.29 | kergoth | which means it may not match the autotools versions we're using |
| 21:57.33 | kergoth | so could blow up in our faces |
| 21:57.37 | mickeyl | aw right. |
| 21:58.02 | kergoth | unless you know you can handle the autotools versioning issues properly, including the autotools generated files saves headaches |
| 21:58.26 | kergoth | The following files are not available because their authenticity is |
| 21:58.27 | kergoth | being confirmed. We expect to have them uploaded Real Soon Now (RSN). |
| 21:58.37 | kergoth | i want libtool upstream damnit! |
| 21:59.10 | mickeyl | andersee: ping |
| 21:59.13 | kergoth | oh well, i'll fix that one later |
| 21:59.26 | kergoth | so now only ifupdown and fakeroot are coming from debian |
| 21:59.34 | kergoth | because they really are debianish |
| 22:00.59 | kergoth | chouimat: that looks and feels like SF.. is it based on that code? |
| 22:01.17 | chouimat | kergoth: don't know |
| 22:01.24 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:01.30 | kergoth | look at the bug view page |
| 22:01.31 | kergoth | totally sf |
| 22:01.34 | mickeyl | uclibc has problems with pthread |
| 22:01.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:03.08 | chouimat | hmmm this new Iron Maiden album is great |
| 22:03.19 | kergoth | heh |
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| 22:03.44 | mickeyl | collie? |
| 22:03.55 | kergoth | non device specific |
| 22:03.58 | kergoth | i'm converting packages to OE |
| 22:04.03 | mickeyl | ah |
| 22:04.17 | kergoth | all the packages dont have deviceisms or package splits yet |
| 22:04.26 | kergoth | just getting them to build, install, and tarball |
| 22:05.21 | mickeyl | In function `main': |
| 22:05.21 | mickeyl | configure:5289: error: too many arguments to function `pthread_getspecific' |
| 22:05.32 | mickeyl | mmh |
| 22:06.23 | kergoth | that seems familiar for some reason |
| 22:06.24 | kergoth | ah well |
| 22:06.28 | mickeyl | uclibc-toolchain doesn't want to build glib - hence no openobex, opieobex and irdaapplet |
| 22:06.44 | mickeyl | but other than that i managed to do a (hopefully) running buildroot build |
| 22:06.51 | kergoth | nice. |
| 22:07.09 | mickeyl | yeah. and the resulting image seems to be 3MB smaller. I'll test tomorrow if that works. |
| 22:07.16 | mickeyl | bed time now |
| 22:07.16 | mickeyl | good night |
| 22:07.19 | kergoth | night |
| 22:07.24 | scribe | Hey guys. Getting close. While linking, libqte.so has unresolved symbols like: `png_set_gamma, jpeg_set_quality, etc. Any ideas which libraries I need to add to my makefile? |
| 22:07.50 | kergoth | add -Wl,-rpath-link,/path/to/buildroot/staging/target/lib |
| 22:07.54 | kergoth | to your LDFLAGS |
| 22:08.09 | kergoth | assuming those flags are used on a gcc line of course |
| 22:08.15 | kergoth | no -Wl, if you pass them to ld directly |
| 22:08.42 | andersee | mickeyl|away:pong |
| 22:09.27 | scribe | cool. |
| 22:09.34 | scribe | now I only get qstricmp errors |
| 22:09.45 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:09.55 | scribe | I remember this before. |
| 22:10.11 | scribe | I provide a function called stricmp in my libs to match the windows compilers. |
| 22:10.26 | scribe | and I think either Qt or Qpe DEFINES this. |
| 22:10.30 | scribe | which sucks |
| 22:10.38 | scribe | my function is in my own namespace. |
| 22:10.45 | scribe | but since they DEFINE it, it doesn't matter |
| 22:17.17 | scribe | very cool, it links now. |
| 22:17.43 | kergoth | OE will make operation of our infrastructure as a development tool much easier. |
| 22:21.48 | kergoth | opinion |
| 22:22.03 | kergoth | should we use upstream debian netbase or put the files local? |
| 22:22.07 | kergoth | since its just /etc/services & shit |
| 22:25.57 | ljp | anyone know ben meyers email addy? |
| 22:28.26 | tronical | ljp: benjamin@csh.rit.edu |
| 22:28.42 | chouimat | tronical: is that one still valid? |
| 22:28.55 | tronical | chouimat: I hope so, it's from kde-common/accounts |
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| 22:29.17 | chouimat | tronical: I hope too |
| 22:29.27 | ljp | thx |
| 22:29.36 | chouimat | ok I really need to eat something bbl |
| 22:33.42 | kergoth | k added netbase |
| 22:41.48 | pb_ | isn't that Alexey Kuznetsov? |
| 22:42.39 | kergoth | heh, good call |
| 22:48.17 | ljp | is it my imagination, or is experimental work being done in 1.0, and not head? |
| 22:48.33 | kergoth | heh, its not your imagination |
| 22:48.39 | kergoth | nobody knows how to use cvs branching |
| 22:48.51 | ljp | *sigh* |
| 22:49.59 | kergoth | we need to get 1.0 merged into head, then move to bk, following a CM plan i'll outline |
| 22:52.59 | ljp | get this. I cvs up yesterday, and a file in ostockticker had a conflict >>>> things, ya know, and so I go to edit that file, and I could NOT find anything different between the two. nothing |
| 22:53.20 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:53.24 | ljp | stupid, stupid, stupid |
| 22:53.37 | ljp | not even white space |
| 22:53.44 | kergoth | cvs cant handle multiple merges. probalby didnt realize the changes were already applied |
| 22:53.52 | kergoth | _this_ is why i tell people not to commit to both branches |
| 22:53.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:54.00 | kergoth | the same change that is |
| 22:54.05 | ljp | I didnt edit or change that file at all |
| 22:54.14 | kergoth | weird |
| 22:55.03 | ljp | I really need to figure out why my qtopia c700 rom wont get dhcp addy |
| 22:58.35 | SuKoSh| | kergoth: do you know about the C7x0 touchscreen patch to enable pressure sensitivity? |
| 22:59.33 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: nope. url me |
| 23:00.21 | SuKoSh| | hope you don't mind grabing my full diff ... |
| 23:00.30 | cyn_ | whoa |
| 23:00.37 | cyn_ | SuKoSh|: are you kidding me - how many levels |
| 23:00.47 | SuKoSh| | http://laurent.lieben.free.fr/zaurus_kernel/corgi/ |
| 23:00.48 | cyn_ | you are my new GOD |
| 23:00.53 | SuKoSh| | no no |
| 23:00.59 | SuKoSh| | thank a japanese guy |
| 23:01.02 | SuKoSh| | not me |
| 23:01.11 | cyn_ | ok well then you're just my new avatar |
| 23:01.20 | SuKoSh| | i'm just the king of yahoo.co.jp & google.co.jp |
| 23:01.50 | kergoth | SuKoSh|: uhm, thats one monolithic patch. do you have one against stock? |
| 23:02.01 | SuKoSh| | chris, the diff is preemptible patch + many stuff |
| 23:02.06 | kergoth | i know. |
| 23:02.10 | kergoth | its monolithic |
| 23:02.15 | kergoth | one big-ass patch with tons of stuff |
| 23:02.17 | SuKoSh| | let me search for the TS |
| 23:02.19 | kergoth | makes it hard to track changes |
| 23:02.20 | kergoth | okay |
| 23:02.31 | SuKoSh| | google.co.jp in progress |
| 23:02.37 | kergoth | okay, thanks |
| 23:03.06 | SuKoSh| | http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/0309122200/ads7846_ts.c.patch <-TS |
| 23:03.16 | SuKoSh| | interested in overclocking stuff for C700? |
| 23:03.17 | ljp | isnt there a script somewhere to seperate a diff into seperate patches? |
| 23:03.21 | kergoth | ahah, are you shitting me? |
| 23:03.24 | kergoth | ads7846? |
| 23:03.24 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 23:03.37 | SuKoSh| | ? |
| 23:03.38 | kergoth | i wrote fucking u-boot level touchscreen calibration and diagnostics for that fucking chip |
| 23:03.38 | treke | kergoth: You were the first post to oe-devel since I subscribed in july |
| 23:03.54 | kergoth | treke: hehe |
| 23:03.56 | cyn_ | ahahahaha |
| 23:04.26 | SuKoSh| | really? |
| 23:04.29 | SuKoSh| | :) |
| 23:04.57 | SuKoSh| | the guy took it from OZ, then? |
| 23:05.01 | kergoth | no |
| 23:05.04 | kergoth | i did it for TI |
| 23:05.10 | kergoth | unreleased, since the binary isnt released |
| 23:05.10 | cyn_ | oh so it's recently to boot |
| 23:05.25 | kergoth | i'll review the driver we're using |
| 23:05.50 | treke | goh. what the fuck are people smoking on ZSI |
| 23:05.58 | treke | AQPKG is a Game/Puzzle? |
| 23:06.02 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:06.04 | pb_ | hehe |
| 23:06.06 | SuKoSh| | cyn_: do you know 'Petite Peinture' ? |
| 23:06.40 | SuKoSh| | the patch enhance Petite Peinture a lot. |
| 23:07.21 | kergoth | does qt pass the pressure value through the mouse event interface? |
| 23:07.35 | kergoth | probalby not |
| 23:08.23 | SuKoSh| | no |
| 23:08.28 | SuKoSh| | as far as i've read |
| 23:08.34 | kergoth | thats lame. |
| 23:08.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:08.39 | SuKoSh| | only a few apps can use this patch |
| 23:08.46 | SuKoSh| | if the kernel is patched |
| 23:08.47 | kergoth | ~fishslap ljp |
| 23:08.48 | | ACTION slaps ljp up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:09.22 | ljp | hey! whadid I do? |
| 23:09.27 | kergoth | work for tt |
| 23:09.28 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:09.43 | ljp | no I dont. not yet. I mearly consult for TT |
| 23:09.53 | kergoth | close enough |
| 23:10.22 | ljp | well, I havent been here long, so nothing is my fault |
| 23:10.55 | pb_ | argh, conflict city. |
| 23:11.11 | pb_ | just did cvs update in my binutils tree. |
| 23:19.18 | ljp | hmm, is Conflict City anywhere enar Dallas? |
| 23:19.28 | ljp | near, even |
| 23:20.18 | scribe | Thanks guys for all your help. Got a new build system and working binary now! Now off to improve the software. |
| 23:22.55 | ljp | ? |
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| 23:27.13 | ljp | hmmmmpft |
| 23:27.24 | ljp | cureses you damn dhcp! |
| 23:27.39 | ljp | ~chant |
| 23:27.40 | | great googli-moogli! great googli-moogli! great googli-moogli! |
| 23:29.54 | mewyn | ~foo |
| 23:29.59 | | hmm... foo is the magic that binds the world together, or bar |
| 23:29.59 | mewyn | ibot foo |
| 23:30.00 | | i heard foo is the magic that binds the world together, or bar |
| 23:30.56 | treke | oooh hold me back |
| 23:31.40 | treke | "I know I'm in the wrong place, but I'll ask anyways" |
| 23:32.24 | ljp | your just a meanie |
| 23:32.43 | ljp | thats what living in california does to a person |
| 23:35.03 | mewyn | ibot fhqwgads |
| 23:35.04 | | mewyn: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 23:35.27 | mewyn | ibot fhqwgads is <reply> Everybody to the limit! |
| 23:35.27 | | mewyn: okay |
| 23:44.26 | treke | so uh, how the hell did I get a system with no libpng3 |
| 23:44.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:47.04 | ljp | dunno. probably same way I got a system which doesnt get dhcp addy |
| 23:47.30 | ljp | and even if I give it one, cant seem to ping anything anyway |
| 23:48.23 | ljp | anyone know of good graphic designers that need employment? |
| 23:48.49 | treke | in australia? |
| 23:49.53 | ljp | yup |
| 23:50.35 | ljp | graphic designer/software developer would be a great combo |
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| 23:51.34 | treke | I think I'll jave to kill mickeyl |
| 23:51.45 | ljp | what'd he do? |
| 23:52.06 | treke | dunno, but I have console message on screen |
| 23:52.14 | treke | I have a funny feeling he's behind it |
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