| 00:00.29 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: heh, no thanks |
| 00:00.35 | noda | Damn :) |
| 00:00.39 | noda | Nobody's stupid enough... :) |
| 00:00.58 | NeoTron | I start there the 2nd |
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| 00:01.07 | noda | I start the 3rd :) |
| 00:01.20 | NeoTron | at TI that is. :P |
| 00:01.27 | noda | At McGill for me :) |
| 00:01.34 | noda | Wow, TI is hiring lotsa people, eh? |
| 00:01.38 | noda | From #openembedded |
| 00:02.24 | noda | Ah well, I've got 7 windows compiling various programs right now, it's time to run off and eat supper before one of them finishes :) |
| 00:02.39 | noda | Later all :) |
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| 00:13.55 | nightfire | ok, this SD card is massively corrupting data |
| 00:14.07 | nightfire | but badblocks reports only 4 blocks bad, consistently |
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| 01:08.37 | mewyn | ibot: sobig |
| 01:08.38 | | mewyn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 01:08.59 | mewyn | ibot: sobig is <reply>It's SoBig! |
| 01:09.00 | | okay, mewyn |
| 01:09.02 | nightfire | fuck i hate proprietary shit. |
| 01:09.06 | mewyn | yup |
| 01:09.20 | nightfire | this fucking sd driver is not working right. |
| 01:11.22 | mewyn | what is it doing |
| 01:11.27 | nightfire | i can't even figure out what their retarded error messages mean |
| 01:11.36 | nightfire | because what? i don't have the source |
| 01:11.49 | nightfire | it's corrupting data randomly, but only when i use a filesystem |
| 01:11.58 | nightfire | direct writes/reads to the block device seem to work |
| 01:12.07 | nightfire | just randomly disappears too |
| 01:12.15 | nightfire | but again only under I/O load |
| 01:12.32 | mewyn | icky |
| 01:12.36 | nightfire | and the sd driver dumps a bunch of nonsense |
| 01:13.42 | nightfire | VFS: Disk change detected on device mmcd(60,1) |
| 01:13.51 | nightfire | what tells vfs a disk change has occurred? |
| 01:14.18 | mewyn | a crappy driver |
| 01:14.23 | nightfire | heh |
| 01:15.18 | nightfire | does this like, work on sharp's standard c7x0 image? |
| 01:15.34 | nightfire | god i wish i had a 128M CF card so i could restore the NAND backup :(" |
| 01:36.16 | mewyn | hey kerg |
| 01:39.05 | kergoth | hey |
| 01:39.17 | nightfire | hey chris |
| 01:39.43 | nightfire | i hear they made you the build master at TI? |
| 01:40.08 | kergoth | yep, lucky me. |
| 01:40.22 | nightfire | haha |
| 01:40.33 | kergoth | keeps it interesting though, flipping between driver development and buildsystems. less monotony. |
| 01:40.44 | nightfire | yeah i guess. |
| 01:44.49 | kergoth | plus the buildsystem work benefits OZ/OE, which is a Good Thing |
| 01:45.17 | nightfire | oh, you're actually doing OE at work? |
| 01:45.41 | mewyn | i really should learn some kernel hacking just for the hell of it |
| 01:45.44 | nightfire | or are they using it for something else? |
| 01:46.09 | nightfire | mewyn: do you code |
| 01:46.10 | nightfire | ? |
| 01:46.43 | mewyn | yah |
| 01:46.55 | mewyn | when i feel like it :) |
| 01:46.58 | nightfire | heh |
| 01:47.21 | nightfire | god i can't wait for the open sd driver for corgi. |
| 01:47.54 | mewyn | won't it be mmc only? |
| 01:48.08 | nightfire | hmm |
| 01:48.10 | kergoth | mewyn: handhelds.org's mmc drivers support both mmc and sd |
| 01:48.16 | mewyn | that's cool |
| 01:48.36 | nightfire | kergoth: it doesn't support corgi right? |
| 01:48.44 | kergoth | nightfire: it doesnt support any zauruses atm |
| 01:49.00 | kergoth | nightfire: i'm adding collie support. i cant add corgi/shepherd/husky/poodle without more detailed info from sharp |
| 01:49.16 | nightfire | is the sd/mmc chip sharp proprietary? |
| 01:49.21 | mewyn | i thought you needed the interfaces uner license to implement SD? |
| 01:49.35 | kergoth | nightfire: depends on device |
| 01:49.44 | nightfire | for corgi/shepherd/husky/poodle |
| 01:49.46 | kergoth | nightfire: collie yes, it uses SPI on their proprietary locomo chip |
| 01:49.47 | kergoth | no idea. |
| 01:50.00 | kergoth | what part of " without more detailed info" wasnt clear? |
| 01:50.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:50.16 | kergoth | i have _zero_ documents on those units |
| 01:50.28 | kergoth | i can get their service manuals, but hte c7x0 ones willb e in japanese |
| 01:50.33 | nightfire | have they indicated any desire to cooperate? |
| 01:51.16 | mewyn | what was the 5600? |
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| 01:57.00 | mewyn | damn. i would like a way to tell this a-hole who has my address and sobig to fscking clean his computer |
| 01:57.11 | mewyn | but he's prolly looking at the porn site it brought up |
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| 02:18.05 | kergoth | eh, the libxine aalib configure test defaults to enabling it when crosscompiling? like you cant look for a lib in the lib path without compiling a test app? foolishness. |
| 02:21.37 | mewyn | annoying |
| 02:22.05 | mewyn | why are you building aalib anyway? |
| 02:22.24 | kergoth | i'm not. |
| 02:22.28 | kergoth | i'm building libxine |
| 02:22.32 | kergoth | and it assumes that aalib exists |
| 02:22.37 | kergoth | so tries to build against it |
| 02:22.37 | kergoth | boom |
| 02:23.29 | mewyn | can't you use --no-aalib or --without-aalib? |
| 02:24.58 | kergoth | nah, they didnt add an arg for it |
| 02:25.04 | kergoth | i just added the argument myself |
| 02:25.46 | mewyn | i don't know why they must have you use that stupid aalib with xine |
| 02:26.18 | kergoth | its only when crosscompiling. native will enable/disable based on whether you have it installed. |
| 02:26.32 | kergoth | just yet another case of bad crosscopmilation handling with an autoconf based system |
| 02:26.33 | mewyn | i can never make anything out with that crap anyway |
| 02:26.39 | mewyn | may be cool if it was color |
| 02:26.45 | mewyn | yah |
| 02:26.54 | kergoth | i want aalib, but ansi, not ascii |
| 02:26.58 | mewyn | yah |
| 02:27.17 | kergoth | be like being on an old school bbs door game or something using it |
| 02:27.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:27.45 | mewyn | one minor problem is YUV->RGB translation |
| 02:27.54 | mewyn | but that shouldn't be too bad |
| 02:29.05 | mewyn | kergoth: i think i'm gonna buy the xm boombox this weekend |
| 02:29.14 | mewyn | does it come with an AC adapter? |
| 02:29.22 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:29.33 | mewyn | how long do the batteries last? |
| 02:29.35 | kergoth | i leave the boombox at work in my cube, kinda nice |
| 02:29.39 | kergoth | dunno, i'm always tethered |
| 02:29.53 | mewyn | never used batteries? hrm |
| 02:30.02 | kergoth | once, but i dont remember how long it lasted |
| 02:30.32 | kergoth | someone needs to write a new version of libtool from scratch in python or something |
| 02:30.42 | kergoth | and make it suck less |
| 02:30.53 | kergoth | concept is good, implementation is bad |
| 02:30.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:30.58 | mewyn | hey, you can prolly rewrite it in cobol and make it suck less |
| 02:31.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:31.11 | mewyn | ibot: libtool |
| 02:31.11 | | i guess libtool is a fool, and can be found at http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/, or the spawn of satan |
| 02:31.58 | kergoth | man, being stuck at home sick since wednesday sucks. i'm so sick of books and tv |
| 02:32.04 | mewyn | heh |
| 02:32.19 | mewyn | i've got no hours at my crappy job for the next few weeks |
| 02:32.22 | mewyn | it's gonna blow |
| 02:32.28 | mewyn | but i should be getting a new job soon |
| 02:32.30 | mewyn | i hope |
| 02:34.23 | kergoth | heh, good luck |
| 02:34.53 | mewyn | thanks |
| 02:35.08 | mewyn | i hope i get the job at rush down town |
| 02:37.32 | mewyn | i've got an interview for that on monday |
| 03:02.20 | nightfire | this is interesting |
| 03:02.37 | nightfire | my card just started working flawlessly, as soon as i stopped copying from a loopback device mounted fs. |
| 03:02.57 | nightfire | spooky |
| 03:03.39 | nightfire | 79mb... never made it this far before! |
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| 06:15.59 | treke|ho1e | you still up kergoth ? |
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| 06:35.11 | kergoth | yeah |
| 06:35.24 | kergoth | reading a book |
| 06:35.30 | treke|ho1e | good deal. what book? |
| 06:35.54 | treke|ho1e | do you have specs on the mmc controller for the c7x0 or will it be stuck on 2.4.18? |
| 06:35.59 | kergoth | rereading a book from a fantasy series by L.E. Modesitt |
| 06:36.05 | kergoth | dont have sufficient specs as things stand now |
| 06:36.14 | kergoth | can get teh service manuals, but they're in japanese |
| 06:36.37 | treke|ho1e | hmmm. I was just about to paypabl the money to brando when that popped into my head :p |
| 06:36.55 | W8TVI | http://www.japan-direct.com/products.asp?type_id=3 |
| 06:37.05 | kergoth | it wont be stuck on 2.4.18 anyway. we can move it to .21 at least. |
| 06:37.15 | W8TVI | c750 for $599 |
| 06:37.25 | kergoth | force the module to load. i highly doubt the block layer changed sufficiently to cause issues there |
| 06:37.30 | treke|ho1e | brando is 525 :p no waranty though |
| 06:37.36 | kergoth | course we wont be able to easily move to 2.6 or anything without the info |
| 06:37.47 | treke|ho1e | yeah, thats what I'm worried about |
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| 06:40.18 | XavierXeon | what happend to tcpdump.org ? |
| 06:41.33 | treke|ho1e | XavierXeon: sites go up and down |
| 06:42.12 | kergoth | XavierXeon: google for a mirror. |
| 06:42.17 | XavierXeon | i have already made a script : only compile oz buildroot is tcpdump.org is not down ;-( |
| 06:42.37 | kergoth | .. |
| 06:42.47 | kergoth | find amirror. wget tarball. put tarball in sources/ |
| 06:42.47 | XavierXeon | kergoth: good point (pretty obvius actually) |
| 06:43.54 | W8TVI_ | hey treke|ho1e |
| 06:43.56 | W8TVI_ | 1x rechargable Li-Ion battery (EA-BL06), AC adapter 100V (EA-72 ##) this is ok for North America |
| 06:44.02 | W8TVI_ | http://www.serve-me.com/conics/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/sc-l700-spec.html |
| 06:45.23 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI_: Power isnt much of a concern for me since I can buy an adapter. Now I've got to decided on the sd driver :p |
| 06:46.19 | W8TVI_ | treke|ho1e: in japan they use the same voltage as we do, and the same plugs |
| 06:46.34 | treke|ho1e | that's what it looks like |
| 06:46.40 | treke|ho1e | a nonissue :p |
| 06:47.06 | W8TVI_ | you can take almost any device made in japan and plug it into the wall here, then go to japan and plug it in there :) |
| 06:47.16 | treke|ho1e | eh fuck it. What do I need 2.6 for |
| 06:47.28 | treke|ho1e | I'm sure pcmcia will be backported for quite a while |
| 06:47.33 | W8TVI_ | but the nice thing about the sl-5500 adapter is you can use it world wide |
| 06:48.20 | W8TVI_ | Radio shack has an adapter set for laptop power supplys that let you plug it into any outlet |
| 06:48.58 | W8TVI_ | and the end that goes into the power supply happens to be the same on the Z supply |
| 06:49.12 | W8TVI_ | and the adapter is $20 |
| 06:49.36 | treke|ho1e | with luck I'll only need a power supply at home |
| 06:50.35 | W8TVI_ | treke|ho1e, next time I"m going to make you google for it :P |
| 06:50.49 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI_: actually I did google for it : |
| 06:50.58 | treke|ho1e | that is where I found the definitive yes :p |
| 06:52.23 | W8TVI_ | I think I'll try to take pictures of my frankenzaurus as I'm working on it |
| 06:52.57 | treke|ho1e | alright. ordered my 760 |
| 06:53.01 | W8TVI_ | cool |
| 06:53.08 | W8TVI_ | send me your old zaurus :P |
| 06:53.12 | treke|ho1e | dont have one |
| 06:53.15 | treke|ho1e | just two ipaqs |
| 06:53.17 | W8TVI_ | why not? |
| 06:53.19 | W8TVI_ | oh |
| 06:53.24 | W8TVI_ | two ipaqs? |
| 06:53.27 | treke|ho1e | ye |
| 06:53.40 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI_: my opinion of the SL5500 wasnt particularly high |
| 06:53.48 | W8TVI_ | I like it |
| 06:54.01 | W8TVI_ | but right now even an ipaq would be nice |
| 06:54.13 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI_: My only complaint with what I'd seen of the c700 was fixed in the c7[56]0 |
| 06:54.23 | treke|ho1e | W8TVI_: So I'm down to price and the color scheme |
| 06:54.23 | W8TVI_ | an ipaq running winCE would be nice |
| 06:54.28 | W8TVI_ | heh |
| 06:54.31 | treke|ho1e | wince? |
| 06:54.41 | W8TVI_ | better than no pda |
| 06:55.42 | W8TVI_ | its not nice to point |
| 06:55.45 | treke|ho1e | too bad the maintainer is an asshole |
| 06:55.50 | W8TVI_ | and why are you pointing? |
| 06:55.59 | treke|ho1e | then again, so is the openembedded-zaurus maintainer |
| 06:59.21 | W8TVI | how fast does USPS priority normaly go? |
| 06:59.45 | W8TVI | from boston to michigan |
| 07:00.34 | W8TVI | oh never mind... the USPS claims 2-3 days |
| 07:02.27 | nightfire | ok, i guess this SD card is really corrupt |
| 07:02.30 | nightfire | man why me |
| 07:02.36 | nightfire | i swear i have the worst luck with hardware |
| 07:02.50 | nightfire | s/corrupt/bad |
| 07:02.52 | W8TVI | what brand? |
| 07:02.54 | treke|ho1e | nightfire: You know what they say |
| 07:02.57 | nightfire | lexar, surprisingly |
| 07:03.07 | treke|ho1e | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. |
| 07:03.12 | nightfire | heh |
| 07:03.28 | nightfire | winners never quit, and quitters never win... but those who never win and never quit are idiots? |
| 07:03.30 | W8TVI | I have a simpletech CF and SD card |
| 07:03.40 | nightfire | W8TVI: which zaurus? |
| 07:03.47 | W8TVI | 5500 |
| 07:04.14 | nightfire | have you ever tried reading/writing directly to /dev/mmcda? |
| 07:04.20 | W8TVI | no |
| 07:04.37 | nightfire | badblocks reports different blocks each time for me |
| 07:04.42 | nightfire | so that must be hardware, right..? |
| 07:05.34 | nightfire | even happens under the sharp flashing kernel/filesystem |
| 07:05.49 | nightfire | now i have to think about how to explain this to the guy at the store :( |
| 07:07.12 | treke|ho1e | hmmm |
| 07:07.16 | W8TVI | tell him it dont work |
| 07:07.18 | W8TVI | :) |
| 07:07.34 | treke|ho1e | now that I'm gonna have an assload of space I ought to start using pyqt |
| 07:07.43 | nightfire | :/ |
| 07:13.13 | treke|ho1e | night. |
| 07:13.20 | nightfire | gnight |
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| 07:22.27 | mithro | kergoth: buildroot builds kernels right? where does it put them - there is nothing in the output directory |
| 07:24.39 | kergoth | mithro: kernel-shepherd doesnt put it there iirc. just grab zImage from build/linux/arch/arm/boot/ |
| 07:25.42 | mithro | and why do you need a kernel in /boot ? |
| 07:28.01 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:28.23 | mithro | all the images have a kernel image in /boot |
| 07:28.35 | kergoth | kernel module ipks depend on kernel-image |
| 07:28.50 | kergoth | kernel-image is supposed to dd the zImage from boot onto the mtd device and then remove the zimage file |
| 07:28.57 | kergoth | thereby allowing kernel upgrades via ipkg |
| 07:29.06 | kergoth | dunno if its working as is |
| 07:29.10 | mithro | hrm... |
| 07:29.24 | kergoth | if the kernel is still in /boot after first boot, it isnt behaving as it should. |
| 07:29.30 | kergoth | feel free to investigate why |
| 07:29.34 | kergoth | the postinst is pretty basic |
| 07:29.37 | mithro | okay |
| 07:31.45 | mithro | it doesn't actually remove the one from /boot only one from /tmp |
| 07:31.47 | mithro | actually it doesn't do anything :) |
| 07:32.00 | mithro | 4th line -> exit 0 :) |
| 07:32.52 | kergoth | well.. fix it |
| 07:32.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:33.11 | mithro | upgrading kernel through ipkg seems dangerous :) |
| 07:34.08 | kergoth | well, it happens in the postinst, which is after the ipk is obtained and extracted, so its not _that_ dangerous |
| 07:34.20 | kergoth | as long as you dont turn your Z off while the postinst is running |
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| 07:55.50 | mithro | hrm non of the .sf.net websites are working... |
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| 07:57.49 | Bala | sf is down again?? .. what a surprise :) |
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| 09:06.02 | mithro | kergoth: you still about? i need some help with buildroot? |
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| 10:26.58 | mithro | hey twuin |
| 10:32.36 | Twiun | hey mithro |
| 10:47.51 | mithro | Twiun: what you been up to? |
| 10:52.09 | Twiun | mithro: implementing a polygon fill algorithm ;) |
| 10:52.21 | Twiun | bbl - gotta do some housework ;) |
| 11:16.17 | mithro | hey mickeyl |
| 11:16.21 | mithro | how are you today? |
| 11:27.36 | mickeyl | hi mithro-uni |
| 11:27.38 | mickeyl | better, thanks |
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| 12:24.31 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 12:56.27 | Twiun | re |
| 13:02.00 | mickeyl | wb |
| 13:02.11 | Twiun | thanks |
| 13:02.23 | Twiun | now to squash those off-by-one errors |
| 13:05.57 | mickeyl | I will now play a bit with virtual console switching |
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| 13:12.55 | mithro | bah i can't figure out why this stupid thing won't compile |
| 13:13.21 | imk|z | what is it? |
| 13:15.13 | mithro | i'm trying to import libgaim into buildroot |
| 13:18.01 | Bernardo | I am having problems compiling libxine... It is trying to link in my /usr/lib/libaa.so, which is x86. |
| 13:18.54 | mithro | it's complaining about GETTEXT in aclocal |
| 13:26.41 | mickeyl | Bernardo: deinstall aalib from your PC |
| 13:28.40 | Bernardo | I did... And then libxine complained that it couldn't find /usr/lib/aalib.so |
| 13:28.48 | Bernardo | I mean, libaa.so |
| 13:29.04 | mickeyl | Bernardo: the problem is your aalib headers somewhere on your system |
| 13:29.12 | mickeyl | Bernardo: deinstall them and remake libxine |
| 13:29.30 | Bernardo | ok, will try then. |
| 13:30.38 | mithro | bah |
| 13:30.42 | mithro | i keep getting |
| 13:30.46 | mithro | cd . && aclocal |
| 13:30.46 | mithro | aclocal: configure.ac: 20: macro `AM_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library |
| 13:31.11 | mickeyl | why don't you use the configure which is provided by libgaim ? |
| 13:31.20 | mithro | i am |
| 13:31.31 | mickeyl | then why calling aclocal? |
| 13:31.34 | mithro | that what happen when i type make |
| 13:34.58 | mickeyl | well... autoconf basically sucks for cross compiling. take a peek into other autoconf based makefiles |
| 13:35.08 | mithro | okay will do |
| 13:39.49 | Bernardo | mickeyl: thanks. libxine compiled. Now my problem is opie... |
| 13:40.25 | Bernardo | cp -f /mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/packages/opie/defconfig-zaurus-"v1_0" /mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/build/opie/.config |
| 13:40.25 | Bernardo | cp: cannot stat `/mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/packages/opie/defconfig-zaurus-v1_0': No such file or directory |
| 13:40.25 | Bernardo | make[1]: *** [/mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/stamps/.opie.binary] Error 1 |
| 13:40.25 | Bernardo | make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/packages/opie' |
| 13:40.26 | Bernardo | make: *** [packages/opie] Error 2 |
| 13:41.49 | mickeyl | Bernardo: edit .config |
| 13:41.54 | mickeyl | CONFIG_OPIE_TAG=BRANCH_1_0 |
| 13:43.44 | Bernardo | thanks once more |
| 13:49.42 | mithro | i can't figure out why it's trying to regenerate aclocal |
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| 13:53.32 | mithro | well ACLOCAL=true works :) |
| 13:54.25 | mithro | configure.ac:4: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.7.3, |
| 13:54.25 | mithro | configure.ac:4: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
| 13:54.25 | mithro | configure.ac:4: comes from Automake 1.6.3. You should recreate |
| 13:54.25 | mithro | configure.ac:4: aclocal.m4 with aclocal and run automake again. |
| 13:55.19 | mickeyl | mmh |
| 13:55.29 | mickeyl | ibot: autoconf |
| 13:55.29 | | Package of m4 macros to produce scripts that automatically configures sourcecode. URL: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/autoconf/ |
| 13:55.50 | mithro | yeah i know |
| 13:55.55 | mickeyl | nono |
| 13:56.14 | mickeyl | ibot: autoconf is also sucky for cross-compiling |
| 13:56.15 | | okay, mickeyl |
| 13:56.19 | mickeyl | ibot: autoconf |
| 13:56.20 | | Package of m4 macros to produce scripts that automatically configures sourcecode. URL: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/autoconf/, or sucky for cross-compiling |
| 13:56.29 | mickeyl | yeah. |
| 13:57.09 | mithro | :) |
| 13:57.31 | mithro | i'm not sure why it can't find GETTEXT |
| 13:58.01 | mickeyl | did you create autoconf and automake in host tools |
| 13:59.46 | mithro | yeah |
| 14:00.30 | mithro | gettext is part of glibc i thought |
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| 14:31.24 | mickeyl | yay |
| 14:31.35 | mickeyl | that guy is too good |
| 14:31.54 | mickeyl | ported 95% of the SIMpad specifica from 2.4 to 2.6 in two weeks |
| 14:32.33 | mickeyl | of course it doesn't survive a suspend/resume cycle, but that's cosmetics ;) |
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| 15:03.30 | Bernardo | mickeyl: does 2.6.0-test3 support SD cards (at least memory cards)? |
| 15:04.21 | mickeyl | SD support is probably not in the mainline as it is highly chipset specific. |
| 15:04.53 | mickeyl | and the SIMpad doesn't even has a SD slot :) |
| 15:05.06 | Bernardo | :( I really like my 256Mb SD mem card... And would like to leave my CF slot for a wifi card |
| 15:05.50 | mickeyl | don't worry. chances are good that SD support will be in later OZ kernels |
| 15:06.38 | Bernardo | cool. |
| 15:07.24 | Bernardo | Well, now compile stopped at python. I think I'll just do a menuconfig and remove python from the list of packages |
| 15:07.40 | mickeyl | err |
| 15:07.56 | mickeyl | post me the error message |
| 15:08.09 | mickeyl | I'm the python packages maintainer. I want them to compile everywhere. |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | esac |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | ImportError: cannot import name log |
| 15:08.38 | Bernardo | make[2]: *** [sharedmods] Error 1 |
| 15:08.40 | Bernardo | make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/build/Python-2.3' |
| 15:09.29 | mickeyl | aah - i just upgraded python to 2.3 - you probably have an old hostpython laying around. |
| 15:09.41 | mickeyl | doesn't matter. next time you do a make mrproper it will probably work |
| 15:10.04 | Bernardo | won't a mrproper remove my source files? |
| 15:10.20 | mickeyl | it will if you have them in $BUILDROOT/sources |
| 15:10.42 | mickeyl | i don't - i use Vars.local to override SOURCE_DIR because I have multiple trees on my disk and only want to have 1 SOURCE_DIR |
| 15:11.11 | Bernardo | ok, I still haven't examined the scripts as I'd like (no time). I think I'll point the source dir to my dist source dir. |
| 15:12.16 | Bernardo | DL_DIR should be the same as the source dir, no? |
| 15:12.27 | mickeyl | DL_DIR? |
| 15:12.30 | mickeyl | never seen that |
| 15:12.48 | Bernardo | It's defined in Vars.make as =$SOURCE_DIR |
| 15:12.56 | mickeyl | ah don't mess with Vars.make |
| 15:13.01 | mickeyl | my Vars.local looks like that |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | more ~/Vars.local |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | mickeyl@gandalf:/usr/local/projects/opensimpad/packages/hostpython$ more ~/Vars.local |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | export DEBIAN_MIRROR=ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | export SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR=http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | export SOURCE_DIR=/usr/local/projects/sources |
| 15:13.09 | mickeyl | export SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR=http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge |
| 15:14.09 | Bernardo | Ok, I just mentioned Vars.make because I looked at it before editing Vars.local |
| 15:14.25 | mickeyl | k |
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| 16:10.25 | Bernardo | mickeyl: any easy way to rollback patches? I did a "make mrproper", then when the next make stopped complaining that qte234-for-opie091-gfxraster had already been applied, I tried /mnt/other/zaurus/buildroot-oz/scripts/patcher -b qte234-for-opie091-gfxraster, but it now complains it can«t apply the patch. (I assume because the file has already been patched). Any suggestions? |
| 16:11.15 | mickeyl | Bernardo: clean the sourcetree. make SUBDIRS=packages/qte clean-sourcetree |
| 16:11.51 | Bernardo | ok, thanks (once more, you might be ready to strangle the newbie) :) |
| 16:16.34 | mithro | buildroot is a fickled beast :) |
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| 16:40.01 | Bernardo | mickeyl: after all that, still the same problem with python |
| 16:40.14 | mickeyl | bk pull |
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| 16:40.22 | mickeyl | i forgot to upgrade hostpython |
| 16:40.31 | mickeyl | rebuild hostpython then it will work |
| 16:42.50 | dL-DeBaan | $10 for binary install images of OZ for 5600. any takers? |
| 16:43.04 | dL-DeBaan | as in, i'll pay you $10 for the images. |
| 16:43.14 | mickeyl | oz for 5600 is not ready yet. |
| 16:44.00 | dL-DeBaan | but, you do have the tools to build it. I was told thta if I wanted to help out, I should build it and muck around with it. |
| 16:44.09 | Bernardo | mickeyl: thanks, downloaded and compiling now. |
| 16:44.40 | dL-DeBaan | I'd like to save the time on building it. at least that way I can report back what does or does not work. |
| 16:46.34 | mickeyl | dL-DeBaan: well, if you really want to help out substantially, you need to become familiar with the buildroot |
| 16:47.49 | mickeyl | nevertheless i can start a poodle build tomorrow |
| 16:48.16 | mickeyl | s/nevertheless/anyway |
| 16:51.43 | treke|ho1e | man brando replies quickly |
| 16:52.23 | mickeyl | did he came and brought you the device already? ;D |
| 16:53.15 | treke|ho1e | hehe no, but he replied to my last message at midnight on sunday :p |
| 16:53.43 | mickeyl | nice. i like that attitude. |
| 16:53.45 | treke|ho1e | he says roughly 10 days |
| 16:56.30 | mickeyl | good |
| 16:57.04 | mickeyl | now let's guess how many hours it takes until you start the lobotomy ;) |
| 16:57.35 | mickeyl | i played two days with it then started to get oz on it |
| 16:58.05 | killefiz | treke|ho1e: have you done any oz-ipaq images recently? |
| 17:08.36 | treke|ho1e | mickeyl: I'm thinking I'll try putting OZ on the first night. After I figure out how to make a backup of the stock rom :p |
| 17:08.54 | treke|ho1e | killefiz I have, but hadnt posted them. lemme build one now |
| 17:09.10 | treke|ho1e | killefiz: what model do you have? |
| 17:10.16 | treke|ho1e | mickeyl: pyqt is definitly going to be a bit more useful now that I have plenty of space and can code on the go |
| 17:10.29 | mickeyl | treke|ho1e: right. |
| 17:11.10 | mickeyl | treke|ho1e: while you're there you can test the integrity of the python 2.3 and pyqt 3.8 packages. i did the upgrade in buildroot, but didn't get a chance to test anything yet. |
| 17:11.23 | treke|ho1e | ok |
| 17:14.11 | treke|ho1e | if it's a 3800 I'll dig up the patch to fix sd support |
| 17:14.30 | kergoth | didnt that patch make it into cvs? i thought i saw it go through the other day |
| 17:14.33 | mickeyl | good thing. lets me recommend oe-ipaq to more people :) |
| 17:14.42 | kergoth | mickeyl: nice work, getting python 2.3 in. glad to see that |
| 17:14.46 | treke|ho1e | did it? ok, then it's probably in hh22 |
| 17:15.03 | kergoth | coffee.. mm. you know, i need a coffee machine. |
| 17:15.09 | mickeyl | kergoth: thanks. t'was easier than i thought to forward the cross compile patches |
| 17:15.11 | kergoth | or an espresso machine |
| 17:15.14 | mewyn | hey kergoth, treke |
| 17:15.19 | treke|ho1e | mornin mewyn |
| 17:15.20 | kergoth | hey mewyn |
| 17:17.15 | mewyn | hrmmm... sco's site is still down |
| 17:19.41 | treke|ho1e | more? |
| 17:20.30 | Twiun | from another channel: "can the output of libtoolize --force be used with older libtools?" |
| 17:20.54 | kergoth | dunno |
| 17:22.06 | Twiun | Aha! |
| 17:22.18 | Twiun | almost there |
| 17:22.39 | treke|ho1e | Twiun: hows wonka doing? |
| 17:23.53 | Twiun | treke|ho1e: I'm going to remove it from the buildroot unless Acunia start getting some more things supported (or they start using GNU Classpath) |
| 17:24.16 | treke|ho1e | that good eh? |
| 17:25.26 | Twiun | it's a good JVM, but it's missing some key points: Debugging arch, JNI bits'n'bobs and most important of all... a working ARM jit |
| 17:25.35 | treke|ho1e | hehe |
| 17:25.48 | Twiun | and as kaffe is starting to get there, I'm haging out in #kaffe a lot these days :) |
| 17:26.15 | Twiun | s/haging/hanging/ |
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| 17:32.22 | pb_ | hi chaps |
| 17:32.24 | mickeyl | anyone knowing offhand what the serial output baudrate on PXA is if omitting it @ kernel cmdline? |
| 17:33.57 | treke|ho1e | mornin pb |
| 17:34.09 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 17:34.17 | Bernardo | hi pb_ |
| 17:34.23 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
| 17:36.31 | TheMasterMind1 | hey kergoth |
| 17:36.32 | TheMasterMind1 | whats new |
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| 17:43.53 | treke|ho1e | hehe |
| 17:44.06 | treke|ho1e | nick treke|breakfast |
| 17:44.55 | pb_ | heh |
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| 17:52.57 | kergoth | treke|ho1e: figured out how i can fix the issue where buildroot's switching between toolchains is problematic right now, without breaking the libgcc build |
| 17:53.19 | kergoth | treke|ho1e: but it involves what is probably too much time spent on a system thats going away.. dunno whether it shoudl be done |
| 17:54.57 | treke|ho1e | hehe |
| 17:55.08 | treke|ho1e | then don't do it |
| 17:55.15 | treke|ho1e | I can always switch by hand |
| 17:55.17 | treke|ho1e | just lazy |
| 17:55.32 | treke|ho1e | same way it was done before that option was added |
| 17:57.26 | killefiz | treke|ho1e: (sorry AFK) - i have a 3870 |
| 17:57.48 | treke|ho1e | killefiz: ok. I'll build the kernel with non broken SD |
| 17:59.54 | pb_ | yeah, in hh22 I think we finally got both sd and mmc to play nicely together. |
| 18:00.12 | pb_ | should be all peachy now. |
| 18:00.40 | killefiz | good - my boss hasn't claimed his ipaq back yet - so i figured i could just as well use the machine |
| 18:00.51 | pb_ | smart thinking |
| 18:01.16 | W8TVI | heh |
| 18:33.48 | treke|ho1e | bleh |
| 18:34.11 | treke|ho1e | pb_: Does hh22 need a newer modules than hh20? |
| 18:34.34 | pb_ | treke|ho1e: modutils? no. |
| 18:34.46 | treke|ho1e | oh wait. that is pcmcia-cs |
| 18:34.58 | pb_ | what's the problem you're having? |
| 18:36.02 | treke|ho1e | Your module utilities are version 0.9.13. That is too old |
| 18:36.03 | treke|ho1e | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.21 | pb_ | wowsers, never seen that before. |
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| 20:27.30 | treke|ho1e | doh |
| 20:27.45 | treke|ho1e | not even experimental images for husky? darn :p |
| 20:28.34 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:28.55 | treke|ho1e | refering to a post by mickey on the zaurus forums |
| 20:29.14 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:29.28 | treke|ho1e | He said there was some kind of trouble, but didnt go into detail. Is the problem just lack of hardware? |
| 20:30.06 | kergoth | sashz has flashed oz onto his c760, and i have oz on my c750 |
| 20:30.11 | kergoth | so i know nothing about any problem |
| 20:30.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:30.21 | treke|ho1e | hehe, so mickeyl was mistaken :p |
| 20:30.40 | kergoth | well, he's reported problems recently with images he builds, but the last one i built worked fine |
| 20:30.49 | kergoth | i'm doing a buildroot build now to see if anything has broken recently |
| 20:30.52 | treke|ho1e | hehe. user error :p |
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| 20:53.58 | gb2 | i had issues loading oz onto my c760, but they were mostly needing to tweak the kernel config since the one in buildroot was bogus (duno if that's still the case) |
| 20:55.24 | kergoth | gb2: fyi, mithro may be starting on the creation of the keysym->qtkeycode table. might want to work with him on that |
| 20:55.43 | kergoth | bbl |
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| 20:58.50 | nightfire | is there any way to append an initrd image the end of a kernel, and have it use it automatically? |
| 20:59.02 | mickeyl | ? |
| 20:59.04 | nightfire | assuming the bootloader doesn't support initrd |
| 20:59.17 | nightfire | or does corgi+ support initrd? |
| 20:59.26 | mickeyl | sure |
| 20:59.34 | mickeyl | initrd.bin, zimage.bin,updater.sh |
| 20:59.43 | nightfire | but initrd.bin is the root filesystem.. |
| 20:59.45 | nightfire | not loaded by initrd |
| 20:59.54 | mickeyl | ah |
| 20:59.57 | mickeyl | initrd |
| 21:00.01 | mickeyl | ramdisk |
| 21:00.02 | mickeyl | initial |
| 21:00.03 | nightfire | i need an actual initrd, because i want to load the sdmmc module |
| 21:00.16 | mickeyl | hmm why that? |
| 21:00.23 | nightfire | because i want to boot from sd |
| 21:00.34 | mickeyl | ah. |
| 21:00.44 | nightfire | i guess i could pass init=/passinit.sh or something |
| 21:00.45 | nightfire | :/ |
| 21:01.08 | mickeyl | well no idea then. never used a initrd except on x86 |
| 21:01.09 | nightfire | what's ramdisk/initial? |
| 21:01.13 | nightfire | yeah me neither :/ |
| 21:01.53 | nightfire | there must be some way to append an initrd to the end of a kernel though, and just pass in the relative address |
| 21:02.01 | mickeyl | might be |
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| 21:10.30 | noda | Moo! |
| 21:15.50 | nightfire | what was the zaurus's console called? |
| 21:15.55 | nightfire | for linux console=<whatever> |
| 21:15.57 | nightfire | tty0? |
| 21:17.03 | mickeyl | yep |
| 21:23.27 | treke|ho1e | hey noda, mickeyl |
| 21:23.33 | noda | treke|ho1e: Heya |
| 21:24.01 | noda | I decided I'd rather not check my email for all that Sobig.F crap last night. Big mistake - I've exceeded my (15mb) quota. |
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| 21:25.08 | treke|ho1e | none of this quota crap :p |
| 21:25.22 | noda | Well, I have control over the quota. I'm gonna up it to 90. |
| 21:25.33 | noda | But it seems absurd to me I've hit my quota. I've never gone more than halfway before. |
| 21:25.50 | treke|ho1e | it's easy to hit 15 that way :[ |
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| 21:25.52 | treke|ho1e | :p |
| 21:26.08 | noda | Hehehe |
| 21:26.21 | Ronnybfa | i'm looking for the bahia network driver for pxa processors i think it is or it was in beta test. anyone has it or knows where i could get it ? |
| 21:27.01 | treke|ho1e | Ronnybfa: probably bahias website |
| 21:34.13 | Ronnybfa | on bahias website theres only one for strongarm |
| 21:34.19 | Ronnybfa | i cant seem to find the beta pxa one |
| 21:34.59 | treke|ho1e | might not be available |
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| 21:37.54 | cmartin | hi |
| 21:40.18 | mickeyl | hiho |
| 21:40.20 | mickeyl | welcome back |
| 21:40.39 | mickeyl | long time no see |
| 21:40.47 | mickeyl | cmartin: how was vacation? |
| 21:41.22 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know noda's AIM? |
| 21:43.46 | cmartin | mickeyl: yes, it was very nice |
| 21:44.21 | killefiz | cmartin: welcome back |
| 21:44.40 | cmartin | mickeyl: any major changes i need to be updated on? |
| 21:45.35 | mickeyl | cmartin: not really. zecke did a great job on 2.6 - it even boots right into opie yet, although a lot of stuff doesn't work yet - but that's more mid-term goal for OpenSIMpad 1.0 |
| 21:46.23 | cmartin | k, so we're staying with 2.4.19 and Opie 1 for OpenSimpad 0.8.1? |
| 21:46.32 | mickeyl | cmartin: yes. |
| 21:46.49 | mickeyl | cmartin: although we will build it with an 1.0.1-snapshot |
| 21:46.56 | cmartin | k |
| 21:47.14 | mickeyl | while doing the kernel work zecke also found that the noise-thing is a bug in ucp/mcp. |
| 21:47.35 | cmartin | just pulled and will build tomorrow - just got back from the airport |
| 21:47.46 | cmartin | oh |
| 21:48.05 | cmartin | why didn't X have that problem? |
| 21:48.45 | mickeyl | good question. might be a coincidance which only occurs with how qte accesses the touchscreen |
| 21:48.58 | mickeyl | also the mcp: time out - is the same thing |
| 21:49.13 | cmartin | did zecke fix that in 2.6 then? |
| 21:50.39 | mickeyl | cmartin: it doesn't occur there, yes. |
| 21:50.56 | cmartin | that' good |
| 21:50.56 | mickeyl | cmartin: btw., 2.6 feels faster already without the mq200 accelleration! |
| 21:51.05 | cmartin | great |
| 21:52.14 | cmartin | what exactly doesn't work? - APM? |
| 21:55.07 | mickeyl | cmartin: http://openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/SimpadLinux |
| 21:55.52 | mickeyl | cmartin: basically the kernel space / user space interfaces all are different and opie doesn't know about that |
| 21:56.09 | mickeyl | cmartin: and we won't mimick the old interfaces as they were retarded anyway ;) |
| 21:56.51 | mickeyl | i.e. sound, backlight settings, suspend/resume, root-over-nfs-over-usb is not working yet |
| 21:58.35 | cmartin | k, so there is still quite a bit to do |
| 21:58.43 | mickeyl | yes |
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| 22:00.37 | cmartin | so i will concentrate on OpenSimpad 0.8.1 and will not mess around with 2.6 for now |
| 22:00.43 | mickeyl | cmartin: right |
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| 22:15.44 | cmartin | gotta go to bed, will start working on OpenSimpad 0.8.1 tomorrow |
| 22:16.15 | mickeyl | cmartin: great. good to have you back. have a good night. |
| 22:16.56 | cmartin | n8 |
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| 22:55.59 | nightfire | stupid busybox |
| 22:56.09 | nightfire | their tar is broken when dealing with multiple hard links to a file |
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| 23:17.23 | Cameron | Anyone willing to help me get Opie to start up in OpenZaurus on my C700? |
| 23:17.50 | treke|ho1e | Cameron: try #openzaurus |
| 23:18.10 | Cameron | no one's responded over there :( |
| 23:18.18 | Cameron | seems that everyone's dead this sunday afternoon |
| 23:18.48 | Cameron | treke|ho1e: any other ideas? |
| 23:19.17 | treke|ho1e | Cameron: come back tomorrow |
| 23:19.40 | Cameron | hehe might have to do that :-/ non-functional Z until then though -- oh well |
| 23:19.55 | treke|ho1e | reflash the stock rom |
| 23:23.10 | Cameron | treke|ho1e: maybe you @ least know how I can get my OZ prompt to display more than one line @ a time? |
| 23:23.17 | Cameron | it's very annoying the way it is, and I'm not sure how to fix it :( |
| 23:23.23 | treke|ho1e | no |
| 23:24.31 | Cameron | thanks anyway, treke |
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| 23:48.15 | MG_Tak | evening |
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