| 00:09.13 | noda | Lol, I love SCO's new argument, that the GPL is invalid because copyright law prohibits it ;) |
| 00:09.31 | noda | Am I the only one who suspects their board of directors is a bunch of monkeys? |
| 00:19.47 | mewyn | noda: but the gpl is a license, i.e. contract, which adds rights beyond the copyright law |
| 00:20.00 | noda | mewyn: Hey, *I* never came up with SCO's claim ;) |
| 00:20.18 | mewyn | their argument is flawed by concept. i don't see how ANY legal consul can come up with any of this shit |
| 00:21.14 | noda | :) |
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| 00:36.03 | treke__ | wonder if I'm too late to remount this machine tonight |
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| 01:02.22 | TCMAN | hi |
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| 01:06.16 | f1shhead | well I got a lcd all soldered up |
| 01:06.23 | f1shhead | now I just got to wire a port |
| 01:06.41 | f1shhead | btw that's pretty slick being able to drive like 8 lcd's from one parallel port |
| 01:06.49 | f1shhead | they all share the same data lines |
| 01:07.12 | f1shhead | but you use the control and status ports - paper out, ack, busy etc and wire one to each of the lcd's write enable pins |
| 01:07.27 | f1shhead | and by doing so yuo can select which one will get data |
| 01:07.53 | f1shhead | btw I almost died last week, I am fine thank you :) |
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| 01:20.43 | aman | hello |
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| 01:35.42 | treke__ | evening TimRiker |
| 01:42.16 | TimRiker | evenin |
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| 01:47.03 | noda | Moo! |
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| 01:52.50 | f1shhead | nothing wrong with that :) |
| 01:52.57 | f1shhead | but now I have to kill you |
| 01:53.22 | treke__ | evening noda |
| 01:53.36 | noda | treke__: Hello. What's up with all the trekes logged in? :) |
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| 01:53.57 | treke__ | noda: not sure :) |
| 01:54.08 | noda | Heh |
| 01:56.29 | noda | Aaaargh. I've killed my Mozilla :P |
| 01:56.50 | noda | Noooo! |
| 02:01.30 | f1shhead | yeah gb |
| 02:01.33 | f1shhead | deal with it |
| 02:02.48 | kergoth | he doesnt have to. nor does anyone else. |
| 02:03.41 | f1shhead | kergoth gb and I go way back and we don't particularry like each other |
| 02:04.06 | f1shhead | nothign else to it |
| 02:04.22 | f1shhead | so kergoth |
| 02:04.29 | f1shhead | mabye you would know |
| 02:04.47 | mewyn | woo. firebird is very close to being a perfect browser |
| 02:04.54 | noda | ephy! |
| 02:05.02 | mewyn | it needs two things fixed. |
| 02:05.38 | noda | mewyn: What are those? :) |
| 02:05.56 | mewyn | one, i need to disable tool tips |
| 02:06.14 | mewyn | two, it needs zoom buttons on the tool bar without needing an extension |
| 02:06.24 | mewyn | the extensions in ui tend to do little funky things |
| 02:06.28 | noda | Um. The whole point of extensions is to slim code. |
| 02:06.31 | mewyn | otherwise, it all works |
| 02:06.37 | noda | They need to fix the extension then :) |
| 02:07.51 | mewyn | i've seen most ui extensions do funky things |
| 02:08.58 | noda | The entire reason Firebird is good is that it uses Extensions thouroughly. It's not a good idea to bring features back into the main branch. |
| 02:09.17 | mewyn | yah, but i think those three buttons shoudl be in there |
| 02:09.49 | mewyn | most other lightweight browsers do the same |
| 02:18.14 | treke__ | the other thing it needs is close buttons on tabs without an extension |
| 02:18.39 | noda | What's wrong with extensions? |
| 02:18.41 | noda | I just don't get it! |
| 02:18.56 | mewyn | noda: they seem to break ui a lot |
| 02:19.37 | treke__ | nothing is really wrong with extensions, but the core UI should be sane |
| 02:21.34 | noda | Then it should be fixed, THAT should be the thing that's fixed :) |
| 02:22.42 | treke__ | right. |
| 02:23.26 | treke__ | no one said dump extensions |
| 02:28.24 | treke__ | nothing like a nice clean server |
| 02:49.57 | ljp | hmm, I am going to have to compile gideon for my knoppix cd |
| 02:49.57 | ljp | kergoth: ping |
| 02:49.57 | ljp | kergoth: Ianhere just mentioned something about an xscale cache bug, and was wondering if the c700 kernel 2.4.18 uses a patch for this? |
| 02:49.57 | ljp | omg |
| 02:49.58 | ljp | they are going out in a flame, though. you must admit that |
| 02:50.00 | ljp | they are out to create FUD among the enterprise people, so they are afraid of using linux. and its working |
| 02:50.03 | ljp | you and I know its FUD, but some CEO's dont. most dont, probably |
| 02:50.05 | ljp | where's RMS in all this, anyway? |
| 02:50.07 | ljp | I am sure he'll get involved now that his license is under fire |
| 02:50.09 | ljp | treke! |
| 02:50.22 | ljp | *yawn*.. I'm hungry |
| 02:50.23 | ljp | TimRiker: how goes it? |
| 02:50.25 | ljp | take off, you hoser! |
| 02:50.31 | treke__ | hey ljp |
| 02:51.56 | kergoth | hrmph, i need a gcc2 xft firebird build |
| 02:52.00 | kergoth | damn rh73 box |
| 02:52.19 | kergoth | ljp: yes, the kernel has the workaround for the errata, which is why it suffers from a performance hit |
| 02:52.27 | aman | kergoth can't wipe it and install debian? |
| 02:53.17 | kergoth | aman: nah, its work's lappy |
| 02:53.47 | aman | that sucks |
| 02:53.56 | aman | ugh, i can't believe this customer service guy |
| 02:54.07 | aman | he emailed me saying "I don't think I can talk to you anymore. You don't seems to understand." |
| 02:54.24 | kergoth | heh, nice service. |
| 02:57.23 | ljp | so, what license are we going to use now that the GPL is illegal? |
| 02:57.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:57.37 | treke__ | the SUYA license |
| 02:57.43 | kergoth | OSL? |
| 02:57.56 | treke__ | not really |
| 02:58.01 | treke__ | it only grants you one right |
| 02:58.33 | treke__ | the right to take the code and Shove it Up Your Ass |
| 02:58.56 | ljp | hmm, foood... |
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| 02:59.17 | kergoth | food is good |
| 03:08.23 | mewyn | unless the food is poisoned |
| 03:15.38 | f1shhead | ya know |
| 03:15.44 | f1shhead | I think #linuxwarez |
| 03:15.48 | f1shhead | on efnet had it right |
| 03:15.53 | f1shhead | yrs before this sco mess |
| 03:15.59 | f1shhead | when they added this to their info bot |
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| 03:16.16 | f1shhead | SCO, the sound a gay man makes who chocking on a large cock |
| 03:16.24 | Masticator | wuzzup dudes. |
| 03:16.45 | f1shhead | hey |
| 03:16.56 | Masticator | I cant beleive I have power |
| 03:16.58 | Masticator | and internet |
| 03:17.04 | Masticator | thank my lucky stars |
| 03:17.21 | f1shhead | cool |
| 03:17.40 | Masticator | went to venture out for dinner, very few towns have power |
| 03:17.47 | Masticator | lucky to find a chinese place that was open |
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| 03:20.39 | ljp | hey! I have power and internet too! |
| 03:22.34 | TCMAN | whole california is laughing now :)))) |
| 03:23.08 | ljp | oh, you just wait |
| 03:25.12 | TCMAN | it least the valley wasnt hit hard |
| 03:25.56 | TCMAN | but residential zones sometimes were blacked out |
| 03:26.34 | TCMAN | time to go home |
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| 04:04.12 | Speedy2 | ibot: seen pb_ |
| 04:04.13 | | pb_ <~pb@pc2-cmbg4-3-cust239.cmbg.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 5h 2m 46s ago, saying: 'I guess on m-variant arm, you can do it in two instructions if your operands fit in 32 bits.'. |
| 04:04.43 | Speedy2 | Yo all. |
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| 04:36.49 | heatxsink | hola everyone |
| 04:38.28 | Masticator | wussup |
| 04:54.17 | heatxsink | is there a c# complier for linux / arm? |
| 04:54.21 | ljp | the gpl is illegal now |
| 04:54.37 | heatxsink | serious? |
| 04:54.45 | ljp | heh, ya SCO said it was |
| 04:54.55 | heatxsink | for c#? |
| 04:55.03 | heatxsink | or just GPL in general? |
| 04:55.03 | ljp | for everything |
| 04:55.11 | heatxsink | where is this? |
| 04:55.26 | ljp | dunno about c#. I believe there is . maybe the 'mono' project I forget |
| 04:55.37 | ljp | look at /. |
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| 04:57.39 | aman | ya, mono |
| 05:01.49 | heatxsink | cool |
| 05:02.04 | heatxsink | anyone know where I can get that new zaurus |
| 05:02.09 | heatxsink | that's has a bigger keyboard? |
| 05:02.13 | heatxsink | not the 5xxx series.. |
| 05:02.19 | heatxsink | the CXX something a rather |
| 05:02.35 | kergoth | dynamism, conics, or brando |
| 05:02.42 | kergoth | dynamism.com, shop.conics.net |
| 05:02.44 | kergoth | ibot: brando |
| 05:02.45 | | [brando] sells/exports the Sharp Zaurus and other electronics http://shop.brando.com.hk/ or mailto:brando@brando.com.hk. C700 $500, C750 $525, C760 $610 USD, (and $45 shipping via fedex) use email for zaurus orders, or plus shipping, or no warranty and japanese sortware. |
| 05:03.29 | ljp | if I didn't have a c700 here on my desk, I would buy one |
| 05:03.38 | ljp | the 760 looks very interesting |
| 05:03.47 | heatxsink | is it worlds apart from the SL5500? |
| 05:05.53 | ljp | the screen is, if you dont use it outside |
| 05:12.12 | treke|home | ok. kernel-headers should be back in 10 minutes :p |
| 05:14.21 | ljp | where'd they go? |
| 05:14.58 | treke|home | ljp: my server has been down for a few days |
| 05:19.04 | ljp | hmmm... and did you bring it back up about the time that the power went out on the east coast?!? |
| 05:19.31 | treke|home | nope. I brought it up 5 minutes ago :p |
| 05:20.43 | ljp | ahh, ok.. |
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| 06:09.22 | exastra | (new "lurker" coming out of the woods) Is there a trick to getting aqpkg to run? I'm compiling buildroot for collie and it compiles but fails in a run attempt with a non-existant bugus shared lib "libstdc++libc6.2-2.so.3". |
| 06:09.42 | exastra | "bugus" -> "bogus" |
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| 07:24.34 | HCl | can anyone compile me a static version of xmms-e? please? |
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| 07:38.31 | HCl | oh, nm ^^ |
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| 08:01.13 | HCl | igh, or not |
| 08:22.32 | HCl | sigh. |
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| 08:25.03 | schurig | anyone willing to sell a Zaurus? A friend of mine is looking for a good, cheap used Linux-PDA ... |
| 08:37.33 | Twiun | good morning |
| 08:40.49 | Twiun | hmmm, I can't really part with my Zaurus atm - otherwise I'd have nothing to develop on |
| 08:44.57 | HCl | gahhhh!! |
| 08:45.04 | HCl | xmms-e is driving me crazy. |
| 08:56.44 | HCl | /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/xmms/General/libQPEgui.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8ios_base4InitC1Ev |
| 08:57.01 | HCl | does anybody have any ideas on that? |
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| 09:00.40 | Twiun | what did you compile your qpe with? |
| 09:00.53 | Twiun | erm... actually that's not relevant |
| 09:01.11 | Twiun | are you sure everything in xmms-e got compiled with 3.3? |
| 09:02.33 | HCl | yes |
| 09:02.47 | HCl | otherwise it would've given an error |
| 09:03.49 | HCl | i'll try the 3.2 package.. sigh |
| 09:05.30 | HCl | sigh. |
| 09:05.34 | HCl | /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/xmms/General/libQPEgui.so: undefined symbol: newData__7QGArray |
| 09:05.40 | HCl | this is horrid. |
| 09:06.10 | Twiun | it definately looks like the name mangling for c++ though |
| 09:06.28 | HCl | im starting to get desperate. |
| 09:09.35 | HCl | good... |
| 09:09.58 | HCl | thank god for LD_LIBRARY_PATH.. |
| 09:24.17 | heatxsink | anyone from back east? |
| 09:24.26 | heatxsink | err.. |
| 09:24.32 | heatxsink | East part of the United State? |
| 09:24.35 | heatxsink | East part of the United States? |
| 09:25.07 | HCl | i got a question about the opie taskbar.. how does it do its list of programs and icons? my xmms isnt generating one |
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| 09:27.45 | Twiun | HCl: iirc, straight from the .desktop file |
| 09:27.53 | Speedy2 | Hey Twiun |
| 09:28.01 | HCl | strange.. |
| 09:28.03 | schurig | it looks in /opt/QtPalmtop/apps |
| 09:28.16 | schurig | HCl: so you need a desktop file there |
| 09:28.22 | HCl | perhaps its cause i use a shellscript to setup the backwards compatibility environment |
| 09:28.26 | HCl | schurig: i have |
| 09:28.26 | schurig | in the proper sub-dir, of course |
| 09:28.32 | HCl | let me try something.. |
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| 09:31.47 | HCl | yup |
| 09:31.49 | HCl | that worked |
| 09:32.04 | HCl | main(int argc, char **argv) { |
| 09:32.04 | HCl | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.04 | HCl | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.04 | HCl | } |
| 09:32.06 | HCl | :) |
| 09:33.15 | Twiun | Speedy2: yo |
| 09:33.23 | Speedy2 | How's it shakin' ? |
| 09:37.22 | Twiun | quite good, landed a contract doing java 1.1 (still ironing out the paperwork) and I'm starting to think about doing some dev again ;) |
| 09:37.26 | Twiun | you? |
| 09:37.58 | Speedy2 | Not bad. Have an interesting project to work on myself. |
| 09:56.57 | HCl | hmm, how do you work the zaurus speaker? |
| 09:57.01 | HCl | like xmms does? |
| 09:57.23 | Speedy2 | OSS interface? |
| 09:57.28 | HCl | hm. |
| 09:57.32 | HCl | okay.. |
| 09:57.55 | Speedy2 | Internal or external? |
| 09:58.00 | HCl | internal |
| 09:58.03 | Speedy2 | I think there is now a "DSP" driver for the speaker |
| 09:58.13 | Speedy2 | The speaker itself isn't a real speaker, it more like a buzzer |
| 09:58.13 | HCl | yea.. xmms uses it.. |
| 09:58.26 | HCl | i was hoping to get gameboy sound through it |
| 09:58.28 | HCl | would be nice |
| 09:59.44 | Twiun | you should be able to by swapping /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp0 |
| 09:59.52 | HCl | ok, great. |
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| 10:08.51 | p2-mate_ | anyone knows where I can find tarball snapshots of the opensimpad source code ? |
| 10:12.18 | HCl | great. |
| 10:12.37 | Speedy2 | Does it work? |
| 10:12.45 | HCl | yea :) |
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| 10:12.50 | Speedy2 | How does it sound? |
| 10:12.57 | HCl | decent enough :) |
| 10:12.59 | HCl | it has clicks.. |
| 10:13.43 | HCl | and its a bit too loud.. hm... |
| 10:14.18 | Twiun | there's a command line mixer app somewhere |
| 10:15.10 | HCl | yea.. let me try that |
| 10:16.52 | Twiun | what we need now is some kind of filter to tailor the dsp output to the characteristics of the buzzer |
| 10:17.01 | Twiun | so it doesn't sound so crap :) |
| 10:17.11 | HCl | hmm |
| 10:17.55 | Speedy2 | Or just dump the damn buzzer...those cheap fools, they could just put a damn speaker in |
| 10:18.32 | HCl | i think it plays mp3s rather nicely for just a buzzer |
| 10:19.05 | Twiun | I'm still on a 5000d though - I'd love the buzzer to sound nice :) |
| 10:22.13 | Speedy2 | What kinda battery life do you get Twiun? |
| 10:22.31 | Twiun | but can you imagine how much better it would sound if we could shape the output specifically for the response of the buzzer? |
| 10:22.44 | Twiun | Speedy2: light off about 4 hours I think |
| 10:22.52 | Twiun | Speedy2: haven't used it heavily for a while now |
| 10:22.57 | HCl | Twiun: mmm. |
| 10:24.40 | Speedy2 | Twiun: I think the buzzer just sucks, I'm not sure much can be done to help it |
| 10:24.58 | Speedy2 | The only thing I can think of is filtering out high-frequency stuff which the buzzer may not respond to |
| 10:26.05 | HCl | i cant get the volume of the buzzer down.. |
| 10:31.21 | Twiun | Speedy2: I was thinking something like that, but I'm not sure if the Z's cpu is fast enough for what I had in mind |
| 10:32.00 | Speedy2 | Well... |
| 10:32.04 | Twiun | Speedy2: instead of just filtering out high frequencies, wouldn't it be possible, based on a response curve for the buzzer, selectively boost/cut certain frequencies |
| 10:32.07 | Twiun | ? |
| 10:32.08 | Speedy2 | If it's integer based, then you'll have no problems |
| 10:32.11 | Speedy2 | You could low-pass the data |
| 10:32.20 | Speedy2 | Yeah you could do that |
| 10:32.37 | Speedy2 | i.e. do what a graphic equalizer does. |
| 10:32.45 | Twiun | lol, yeah |
| 10:32.49 | Twiun | that's a good point |
| 10:33.21 | Speedy2 | I think the problem is the buzzer is only good for single frequencies or maybe square-waves |
| 10:33.27 | Speedy2 | Not good for audio, which is rich in harmonics. |
| 10:33.42 | andersee | apply a butterworth filter |
| 10:34.25 | Speedy2 | An FIR would be a better solution... |
| 10:35.19 | Twiun | can the frequency be switched fast enough to give the impression of harmonics? |
| 10:36.19 | Speedy2 | I guess we have to see the code for the buzzer to get an idea of what it's doing right now |
| 10:36.23 | Twiun | it's not as if we're aiming to please so called 'golden ears' |
| 10:36.38 | Speedy2 | But the frequencies simueltaneously hit the buzzer |
| 10:36.54 | Speedy2 | i.e. audio == sum of whole bunch of frequencies |
| 10:37.17 | Twiun | I'd be happy with a little time delay I suppose |
| 10:37.29 | andersee | you need to use an fft, then filter in the frequency domain, then fft to bring things back |
| 10:37.34 | Speedy2 | No |
| 10:37.38 | Speedy2 | FIR filter. |
| 10:38.35 | Twiun | but interesting nonetheless |
| 10:49.24 | Twiun | how's the speed? |
| 10:50.04 | HCl | oh, normal |
| 10:50.08 | HCl | just the sound is too loud |
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| 12:45.37 | Speedy2 | Night all |
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| 13:38.03 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:44.27 | schurig | chouimat: moin! |
| 13:45.51 | Twiun | hey chouimat |
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| 16:39.43 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 16:39.48 | kergoth | i'm stuck in console. |
| 16:40.33 | treke | fun |
| 16:41.06 | mewyn | sounds like a riot |
| 16:41.17 | mewyn | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11063 |
| 16:41.35 | kergoth | treke: i need a debootstrap rpm for building debian chroots from a rh box |
| 16:41.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:41.40 | treke | hehe |
| 16:41.44 | prpplague | kergoth: not so bad, you could be stuck on 635, lol |
| 16:42.02 | kergoth | heh, true that |
| 16:42.04 | treke | I dont want to install all this dev crap on the server this time, so I'm using stable in vmware to do builds :p |
| 16:42.14 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 16:42.36 | treke | god only knows what I'm going to have to upgrade to build a new php for it :p |
| 16:42.37 | kergoth | i'm thinking i might use hte win2k in vmware i have here to fix buidlroot under cygwin |
| 16:42.55 | kergoth | brb, meetin |
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| 16:51.53 | Neo|Work | last day, office is packed, all is good |
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| 16:55.48 | treke | framebuffer console is fricken slow in vmware :p |
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| 17:16.59 | ok4 | hi all, tried to compile openzaurus from cvs but it fails ... is there a version that contains all source and doesn't complain too much? |
| 17:17.29 | treke | no |
| 17:17.40 | treke | be more specific about what fails |
| 17:18.28 | ok4 | hmmmm it already starts while connecting to the cvs.handhelds.org (passwd now required) |
| 17:18.40 | Masticator | sup. |
| 17:19.05 | ok4 | more to come ... just a sec |
| 17:19.09 | Masticator | Neo|Work: you are ditching Real? |
| 17:21.31 | ok4 | after loggin in and downloading ipkg I got: |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | SourceTreeModule->go: outfile is /home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86 |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | SourceTreeModule->go: output is /home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86 |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | make -C /home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3 clean; |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | make[3]: Entering directory `/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3' |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 17:21.34 | ok4 | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3' |
| 17:21.36 | ok4 | make[2]: *** [/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/stamps/.ipkg-x86.binary] Error 2 |
| 17:21.38 | ok4 | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/packages/ipkg-x86' |
| 17:21.40 | ok4 | make[1]: *** [packages/ipkg-x86] Error 2 |
| 17:21.42 | ok4 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz' |
| 17:21.44 | ok4 | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 17:21.52 | ok4 | sorry got a little long!? |
| 17:23.33 | kergoth | ok4: uh, we include a .cvspass that makes you not havfe to login to cvs.handhelds.org. |
| 17:23.53 | treke | kergoth: hehe. I always wondered how you did that |
| 17:24.43 | kergoth | CVS_PASSFILE env var |
| 17:24.52 | kergoth | CVS_PASSFILE=$(TOPDIR)/.cvspass cvs up |
| 17:24.53 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:25.54 | ok4 | but what about: |
| 17:25.56 | ok4 | make[2]: *** [/home/openzaurus-cvs/buildroot-oz/stamps/.ipkg-x86.binary] Error 2 |
| 17:26.11 | Masticator | sup kergoth |
| 17:26.13 | kergoth | thats not an error. |
| 17:26.18 | kergoth | what you pasted 20 lines ago is. |
| 17:26.30 | kergoth | er 10 |
| 17:26.31 | kergoth | whatever |
| 17:26.32 | kergoth | hey Masticator |
| 17:28.20 | ok4 | well what to do to get over it? |
| 17:36.43 | ok4 | I personally think it is a nice idea to download the various sources from their origins, but isn't this a constant struggle to keep oz happy to compile? |
| 17:37.25 | treke | not really. Something has to be fixed every week or two, but it isnt that much effort |
| 17:39.44 | ok4 | but it means someone has to check for implications/sideeffects when things change in the cvs's |
| 17:40.16 | treke | Obviously |
| 17:40.26 | pb_ | One would hope that the upstream developers aren't making too many random changes with bad side effects. |
| 17:40.41 | ok4 | :-) |
| 17:40.52 | gb2 | the main problem i had building from buildroot was sites being offline |
| 17:41.14 | treke | until someone goes and writes tools for managing an archive |
| 17:41.29 | treke | and provides a 100% reliable machine with enough bandwidth, this is the best bet |
| 17:41.53 | pb_ | Buildroot supports using mirrors when a primary site is down nowadays, right? |
| 17:41.59 | treke | pb_: nope |
| 17:42.08 | pb_ | Oh, I thought it did for some reason. |
| 17:42.53 | kergoth | ok4: which is why we generally use cvs branches or date tags as opposed to HEAD. |
| 17:43.08 | kergoth | hmm, weird aterm bug |
| 17:43.22 | kergoth | if you enable transparency and shading, and start aterm, it has a black background until you move it |
| 17:43.25 | kergoth | then it becomes trans |
| 17:43.40 | treke | odd |
| 17:43.44 | kergoth | color tint doesnt have that issue, only shading |
| 17:43.49 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:44.01 | treke | I only use shading here |
| 17:44.13 | treke | it starts up black for a second, then goes transparent |
| 17:44.26 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:44.35 | kergoth | mine never does until i move it |
| 17:44.46 | kergoth | what aterm version? |
| 17:45.02 | kergoth | i much prefer shading, tint often makes the text harder to read |
| 17:45.06 | treke | 0.4.2-5 |
| 17:45.19 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:45.26 | kergoth | wonder what debian patches in their aterm build |
| 17:46.18 | treke | I dont see any |
| 17:50.40 | treke | hmmm. |
| 17:50.44 | treke | apt-get.org is your friend :) |
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| 18:05.04 | f1shhead | hey treke |
| 18:05.10 | f1shhead | microcontrollers rock! |
| 18:05.11 | f1shhead | :) |
| 18:05.22 | treke | yes they do |
| 18:05.35 | f1shhead | they are turning the world upside down :) |
| 18:06.00 | f1shhead | eliminating a lot of energy losee in combustion engines and electronic motors |
| 18:06.24 | f1shhead | not to mention making all kinds of stuff smarter |
| 18:06.36 | f1shhead | senser nodes for farmers etc |
| 18:07.04 | kyngel | Yeah, I have a friend whose family does chicken farming... they have everything electronically controlled and monitored now. |
| 18:07.10 | f1shhead | cool |
| 18:07.26 | f1shhead | yeah a lot of 4 and 8 bit microcontrollers are under $1 |
| 18:07.36 | f1shhead | they might not have enough power to do a lot of processing themselves |
| 18:07.48 | kyngel | He said that just temperature control is ridiculously cheaper now that they're not just throwing cold air at the problem. |
| 18:07.48 | f1shhead | but they can monitor and upload the data to a center processor |
| 18:07.55 | f1shhead | yep |
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| 18:08.28 | f1shhead | I mean I love x86 |
| 18:08.34 | f1shhead | I think it's one of the best artechtures ever |
| 18:08.37 | f1shhead | *BUT* |
| 18:08.41 | f1shhead | it's defintely not for everything |
| 18:08.59 | f1shhead | but what you can do is have a central x86 serever |
| 18:09.09 | f1shhead | and use microcontrollers for all your nodes and data gathering |
| 18:09.17 | f1shhead | maximum economics |
| 18:09.19 | f1shhead | *AND* |
| 18:09.31 | f1shhead | if the microcontrollers are in a enviorment where they get toasted a lot |
| 18:09.35 | f1shhead | you aren't losing much $$$$ |
| 18:09.41 | f1shhead | in fact you are still making $$$ |
| 18:09.54 | f1shhead | I dunno I just love the whole microcontroller concept |
| 18:10.12 | f1shhead | from simplicity, inprovements in quality of life or task you need to do and the economics |
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| 18:28.59 | fishhead | btw wanker |
| 18:29.05 | fishhead | I told you zigbee would be big |
| 18:29.09 | gb2 | yeah yeah |
| 18:29.09 | fishhead | did I call it righ or what ? |
| 18:29.10 | fishhead | :) |
| 18:29.20 | treke | kergoth: Definitly glad I have a build vm for this stuff. All kinds of nasty upgrades :p |
| 18:29.33 | fishhead | gb2 they just did a lot of stuff rightr |
| 18:29.45 | fishhead | not everything needs what bluetooth/802.blah provide |
| 18:34.49 | aman | fishhead um, zigbee IS a 802.blah |
| 18:35.03 | fishhead | aman you know what I mean dude |
| 18:35.39 | fishhead | my point was zigbee allows wireless for stuff that normal wireless standards are overkill |
| 18:35.43 | fishhead | speaking of |
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| 18:35.58 | fishhead | i wonder what is the cheapest bluetooth pc module is I can get that works in linux |
| 18:36.06 | fishhead | so when I get my palm tungston t2 it has a link |
| 18:39.25 | ok4 | ok, seems in buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3 and buildroot-oz/build/ipkg-x86/C/busybox-0.60.3/libbb are the Makefiles missing ... has aomeone an idea why? |
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| 18:41.04 | kergoth | ok4: uh, the makefiles are generated. |
| 18:41.16 | kergoth | ok4: enable autoconf, automake, and libtool in buildroot host build tools if they arent already. |
| 18:41.35 | ok4 | thanks I will check |
| 18:41.37 | treke | and then add pester someone to fix dependencies for busytbox |
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| 18:43.13 | treke | oh cool. HP rocks a bit more than I thought :p |
| 18:44.14 | kergoth | can someone do me a favor? |
| 18:44.15 | treke | jg called the ipaq guys and they said installing Linux doesn't invalidate your warranty. |
| 18:44.18 | kergoth | cat /etc/pointercal for me |
| 18:44.28 | kergoth | i need to see what the values normally look like |
| 18:44.39 | treke | kergoth: does it need to be a zaurus? |
| 18:44.44 | kergoth | any device |
| 18:44.50 | kergoth | i just need a rough idea of the range of the values |
| 18:44.51 | treke | k |
| 18:45.26 | ok4 | are there any specific varsions of autoconf, automake, and libtool needed? I recently compiled php on that machine and they need these tools too. |
| 18:45.40 | treke | ok4: Enable them in buildroot |
| 18:45.41 | kergoth | .. |
| 18:45.48 | treke | it does not use your system autoconf and automake |
| 18:45.51 | kergoth | did you fail to understand my instructions, or what? |
| 18:45.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:45.55 | kergoth | users. |
| 18:46.40 | treke | kergoth: "-24838 0 22531944 0 -17502 16562748 65536" |
| 18:48.11 | kergoth | damnit. |
| 18:48.13 | kergoth | thanks. |
| 18:48.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:48.22 | treke | that is off a 3800 |
| 18:48.47 | treke | not using tslib, think I'll change that this weekend though |
| 18:52.36 | aman | kergoth what're you working on |
| 18:53.22 | kergoth | aman: work stuff. |
| 18:53.57 | fishhead | later all, see you around |
| 18:54.41 | prpplague | kergoth: i'll never know why companies don't spend the extra $0.0005 to put a debug trace on pcb's |
| 18:55.24 | fishhead | prpp that's starting to change a bit fortunitely |
| 18:55.37 | fishhead | but you know you and me won't see it filter thru for many yrs :P |
| 18:55.50 | prpplague | fishhead: ya well the board i'm trying to write a driver for doesn't :( |
| 18:56.00 | fishhead | what cpu |
| 18:56.19 | prpplague | fishhead: the chipset has a serial debug port, just no traces to it |
| 18:56.29 | fishhead | heh |
| 18:56.32 | prpplague | fishhead: its a usb to rs232 board |
| 18:56.37 | fishhead | I am sure you will come up with something :) |
| 18:57.43 | ok4 | before kergoth calls me names ... obviously I am missing the ***verrry*** important doc where I have to setup "buildroot" |
| 18:58.49 | prpplague | ok4: this for a z? |
| 18:59.23 | ok4 | yep |
| 18:59.46 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:59.50 | kergoth | "setup"? |
| 18:59.57 | kergoth | buildroot is independnet. |
| 19:00.02 | kergoth | no setup on the build machine is necessary. |
| 19:00.07 | kergoth | copy a default config and start a build. |
| 19:00.08 | kergoth | thats it. |
| 19:00.31 | kergoth | Calibration constants: 2117:14 1647:4 2807:5 2291:1 2039:8 13:14 0:0 |
| 19:00.35 | kergoth | something is very wrong with this picture |
| 19:00.36 | kergoth | hrmph. |
| 19:01.02 | kergoth | first sign, the scaling factor is shown as 0 when it should be 65536 |
| 19:01.04 | kergoth | odd |
| 19:01.22 | treke | hmmm. |
| 19:01.43 | treke | I wonder if I really needed to build coreutils |
| 19:01.49 | kergoth | second sign, no negative #s |
| 19:01.55 | kergoth | third, the values are too small |
| 19:02.35 | treke | shoot I guess I dont actually need coreutils :p |
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| 19:14.59 | ok4 | hmmm seems to be odd, but doesn't work here on a suse8.2 ... have to go ... will pester you tomorrow again ;-) |
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| 19:17.10 | absentiaQ | hey, I need to test an smtp path... but it looks like my isp is blocking my connects out to port 25... would anyone be willing to give me a temp shell, or does anyone know where I could get a quick, free shell? |
| 19:18.48 | andersee | ~lart absentiaQ |
| 19:19.03 | absentiaQ | argh. seriously. |
| 19:22.22 | aman | absentiaQ so use your isp's outgoing mail server... |
| 19:22.46 | absentiaQ | I need to connect to an smtp port directly... |
| 19:23.00 | absentiaQ | can you connect to mail16.messagelabs.com or mail29.messagelabs.com ? |
| 19:23.02 | absentiaQ | port 25? |
| 19:23.20 | absentiaQ | once i can do that |
| 19:23.29 | andersee | $ telnet mail16.messagelabs.com 25 |
| 19:23.29 | andersee | Trying 64.124.170.131... |
| 19:23.29 | andersee | Connected to mail16.messagelabs.com. |
| 19:23.29 | andersee | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 19:23.29 | andersee | 220 server-8.tower-16.messagelabs.com ESMTP |
| 19:23.30 | andersee | HELO |
| 19:23.31 | absentiaQ | I need to manually send mail to two domains... |
| 19:23.32 | andersee | 250 server-8.tower-16.messagelabs.com |
| 19:23.35 | absentiaQ | good. |
| 19:23.52 | absentiaQ | I need to get more boxes up. I hate being so limited. |
| 19:24.37 | absentiaQ | nonsense |
| 19:24.42 | absentiaQ | er, wrong channel. |
| 19:28.33 | andersee | absentiaQ: what does all this have to do with openembedded |
| 19:29.01 | absentiaQ | nothing. I just don't know many people here on on irc.. I was hoping that someone would be able to help me... or provide me with a temp shell so I could test some smtp |
| 19:29.47 | absentiaQ | looks like it's not gonna happen, though. |
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| 20:02.02 | Twiun | re |
| 20:02.13 | W8TVI | hey |
| 20:02.19 | Twiun | hey W8TVI |
| 20:02.28 | W8TVI | stupid blackout |
| 20:02.41 | Twiun | still having problems? |
| 20:02.51 | W8TVI | my ISP is based out of detriot |
| 20:03.55 | W8TVI | I'm near Traverse City, mi |
| 20:04.02 | W8TVI | no power probs here |
| 20:04.23 | Twiun | just everyone else :) |
| 20:04.48 | W8TVI | yep |
| 20:13.02 | W8TVI | latter guys |
| 20:16.21 | fishhead | http://webevents.broadcast.com/cmp/wcs/ |
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| 20:33.58 | _Yog_ | Hi ! I've modified a X11-Image for the Simpad CL4 (rd-2.4.18-rmk7-jpm3) ... it boots and works, but the suspend button doesn't work any more, which is very bad. Does anyone know how to activate it ? |
| 20:36.19 | pb_ | jeez, didn't someone ban fishhead already? |
| 20:36.32 | treke | yes |
| 20:36.37 | treke | His ip has probably changed |
| 20:36.41 | fishhead | but they gave me another chance |
| 20:36.45 | fishhead | for good behavior |
| 20:37.01 | fishhead | I forgot about excessive use of /me |
| 20:37.01 | fishhead | sorry |
| 20:37.03 | fishhead | used to efnet |
| 20:37.21 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 20:37.25 | kergoth | someone gave you another chance? if so it was certainly unintentional. |
| 20:38.40 | fishhead | give me a break kergoth I nearly died last weekend |
| 20:38.42 | fishhead | be nice :) |
| 20:38.45 | fishhead | please |
| 20:39.55 | fishhead | I like it here, you people are clued |
| 20:40.26 | fishhead | you appreciate the power of the embedded market |
| 20:42.00 | fishhead | why do you think I am in the middle of a farily large medication change in my life, so I feel less wired and get along more on tech irc channels :) |
| 20:47.53 | gb2 | heh, you all hate fishhead here too? |
| 20:48.35 | treke | yup. |
| 20:48.47 | fishhead | well I guess I will have to change that |
| 20:49.03 | _Yog_ | so are there no opensimpad-developers in here ? |
| 20:49.07 | gb2 | [fishhead] go fuck youself |
| 20:49.10 | gb2 | hmm |
| 20:49.22 | gb2 | fishhead seems to be himself on every network i encounter him on |
| 20:49.53 | kergoth | _Yog_: looks like they're away at the moment. |
| 20:50.03 | fishhead | so kergoth |
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| 20:50.08 | treke | _Yog_: you are about 3 hours too late |
| 20:50.09 | TCMAN | hi |
| 20:50.12 | fishhead | what's your target for emebdded work |
| 20:50.24 | kergoth | target? |
| 20:50.32 | fishhead | favorite cpu or microcontroller |
| 20:51.20 | _Yog_ | kergoth: who are they (I guess mickeyl) ? |
| 20:52.21 | prpplague | fishhead: kergoth is a philanderer, he has a different board every day |
| 20:52.49 | fishhead | neat |
| 20:53.05 | kergoth | I tend to lean towards ARM devices because thats what i'm familiar with. |
| 20:53.15 | kergoth | but beyond that.. |
| 20:53.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:53.18 | Masticator | anyone wanna go to a barbecue in NC in october? |
| 20:53.30 | kergoth | TS Event: 52203 19974 380 |
| 20:53.30 | kergoth | TS Event: 62129 58744 386 |
| 20:53.30 | kergoth | TS Event: 726 51654 453 |
| 20:53.30 | kergoth | TS Event: 15313 56874 397 |
| 20:53.31 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 20:53.33 | Masticator | we can have an official OpenEmbedded conference there. |
| 20:53.35 | kergoth | oh my, i've got issues here |
| 20:53.39 | Masticator | http://forums.egullet.com/index.php?act=ST&f=97&t=22767& |
| 20:53.50 | kergoth | ya think a fluctuation of 61000 is too much for X coords? |
| 20:53.51 | kergoth | ;) |
| 20:54.15 | Masticator | is the TS driver still wacked? |
| 20:54.20 | kergoth | Masticator: not really |
| 20:54.23 | Masticator | I thought we had that shit under control |
| 20:54.28 | kergoth | i'm working on other things |
| 20:54.31 | kergoth | unrelated things |
| 20:55.30 | Masticator | hey, did you hear they are changing the classic 5 flavor life saver roll? |
| 20:55.32 | fishhead | arm is very nice |
| 20:55.36 | fishhead | so is embedded mips |
| 20:55.45 | Masticator | they are pulling out lime and lemon |
| 20:55.50 | Masticator | its sacrelige |
| 20:55.55 | gb2 | what? |
| 20:56.02 | gb2 | are they replacing the flavors? |
| 20:56.04 | kergoth | err |
| 20:56.07 | Masticator | http://forums.egullet.com/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=26184&hl=&s=\ |
| 20:56.29 | kergoth | anyone here have a good link to touchscreen calibration calculations? |
| 20:56.33 | kergoth | i remember having a good one, but misplaced it. |
| 20:56.43 | kergoth | and google is singularly unhelpful |
| 20:57.12 | prpplague | kergoth: scanline gave me one a while back |
| 20:57.18 | Masticator | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20030815/bs_usatoday/11597870 |
| 20:57.19 | prpplague | kergoth: don't have it here at work |
| 20:57.28 | prpplague | kergoth: try him |
| 20:57.48 | Masticator | they are getting rid of orange, lemon and lime |
| 20:57.55 | Masticator | unbeleivable |
| 20:57.59 | Masticator | I really liked the lime too |
| 20:58.57 | kergoth | prpplague: http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20020529S0046 |
| 20:59.00 | kergoth | prpplague: (fyi) |
| 20:59.03 | kergoth | prpplague: found it :) |
| 20:59.33 | mewyn | google > god |
| 20:59.37 | treke | Masticator: what the hell? |
| 20:59.47 | mewyn | or google is god. something like that |
| 20:59.57 | treke | raspberry, watermelon, and blackberry? |
| 21:00.22 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks, i was just queried this morning about a potential ts project |
| 21:00.56 | Masticator | treke: yeah, they are fucking nuts |
| 21:00.58 | kergoth | prpplague: good article, includes explanations, which is nice. |
| 21:01.07 | kergoth | prpplague: i _hate_ just using code without knowing the why of it. |
| 21:02.06 | kergoth | raspberry, watermelon? what, are they trying to compete with jolly ranchers or something? |
| 21:02.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:02.28 | prpplague | kergoth: me too, i often get questioned from upper management why i take so long on some projects, lol, "because i need to understand what the hell your asking me to do!" |
| 21:02.42 | Masticator | they are going to have to come out with Life Savers Classic |
| 21:02.48 | Masticator | people are gonna be pissed |
| 21:02.58 | kergoth | prpplague: exactly. its amazing how in most cases you spend more time in analysis and study and design than actual code. |
| 21:03.06 | Masticator | you dont screw with classic products like that |
| 21:03.15 | prpplague | i vote from me for altoids flavored life saver |
| 21:03.22 | prpplague | s/i/1 |
| 21:03.36 | Masticator | they have those |
| 21:03.40 | Masticator | wintergreen lifesavers |
| 21:03.45 | Masticator | but this is the classic 5 pack |
| 21:03.55 | Masticator | also peppermint lifesavers |
| 21:04.23 | mewyn | wintergreen are awesome. they spark in the dark |
| 21:04.27 | Masticator | altoids are so yesterday though |
| 21:04.34 | Masticator | I really like the chocolate velamints |
| 21:04.56 | mewyn | i still eat altoids by the tinful |
| 21:05.00 | fishhead | altoids make good ant repellant |
| 21:05.05 | fishhead | they *HATE* peppermint oil |
| 21:05.33 | prpplague | mewyn: i'm gonna paint my empty altoid tins and give them as christmas presents, lol |
| 21:05.48 | mewyn | i once treated a tin of penguin mints like i treat altoids... it was really fucked up |
| 21:05.56 | prpplague | mewyn: btdt |
| 21:06.00 | ljp | hi |
| 21:06.02 | Masticator | yeah I have a case of penguins here |
| 21:06.08 | Masticator | always have some by my desk |
| 21:06.12 | Masticator | they get you really wired |
| 21:06.29 | ljp | I have no life |
| 21:06.56 | mewyn | maticator: when you eat 3/4 a tin in 6 hours... yah... quite wired |
| 21:07.05 | ljp | thats why I am here on a Saturday |
| 21:07.25 | gb2 | there's also butter rum lifesavers |
| 21:07.26 | gb2 | mmmm |
| 21:08.36 | kergoth | ljp: ? |
| 21:08.41 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:08.44 | Masticator | butter rum is good |
| 21:08.45 | kergoth | ljp: go home |
| 21:09.08 | Masticator | but I think screwing with the classic 5 assorted is a very dangerous proposition. |
| 21:09.30 | Masticator | I mean, after 9/11 people want to go back to the old fashioned comforting things |
| 21:09.39 | Masticator | you dont screw with childhood memories |
| 21:09.42 | treke | they do? |
| 21:09.56 | Masticator | comfort food has never been more popular |
| 21:10.04 | treke | It's been two years. I dont think most people really give much of a shit about it anymore |
| 21:10.06 | Masticator | so have the tried and true brands people grew up with |
| 21:10.22 | Masticator | treke: not for those who were very close to it |
| 21:10.35 | kergoth | you know |
| 21:10.43 | kergoth | you know far too much about food |
| 21:12.19 | Masticator | yeah |
| 21:12.24 | Masticator | its a sickness |
| 21:12.32 | ljp | there is nothing at home. one chair. |
| 21:12.37 | ljp | no internet. |
| 21:12.41 | kergoth | ljp: ah! you know how i felt now |
| 21:12.46 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:12.46 | ljp | hehehe |
| 21:13.01 | ljp | and it's rainging, so I dont want to go to the bike trails |
| 21:13.30 | ljp | and I remembered my scsi cable, so I can remerge ofileselector |
| 21:14.09 | kergoth | nice. |
| 21:15.04 | ljp | I think thats why I changed my mind about cvs. ;) |
| 21:15.32 | treke | shit. scsi drives are getting cheap |
| 21:16.24 | ljp | I need to get a scsi3 card |
| 21:16.29 | mewyn | heh |
| 21:16.35 | mewyn | it's about time |
| 21:16.39 | TCMAN | there are new wd 10k rpm drives for sata |
| 21:16.54 | ljp | I have an IBM scsi3 disk that I have to use a scsi2 adapter, and I dont get quite the performance out of it as I should |
| 21:16.56 | TCMAN | they seem to be based on their scsi drives, and also as expensive |
| 21:17.30 | TCMAN | 2940uw here |
| 21:17.39 | TCMAN | and i use it for scsi dvd rom :) |
| 21:17.44 | treke | it might have been a uw |
| 21:17.45 | treke | not sure |
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| 21:18.18 | TCMAN | do you guys know how hard it was to find scsi dvd rom with black faceplate ? :) |
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| 21:18.33 | treke | I'd think it would be pretty easy |
| 21:18.38 | ljp | I think I fried my vercel. ;( it no live no more. |
| 21:19.01 | treke | TCMAN: black rackmount cases seem pretty common :p |
| 21:19.11 | mewyn | vercel? |
| 21:19.18 | TCMAN | scsi dvd roms are very rare |
| 21:19.24 | treke | oh. DVD-Rom |
| 21:19.31 | treke | thought you said CD-ROM |
| 21:19.33 | TCMAN | and black is even more unusual |
| 21:19.48 | mewyn | tcman: get a beige one and paint it |
| 21:19.50 | TCMAN | i found two places on the net selling them |
| 21:20.03 | TCMAN | mewyn: it doesnt look that good then |
| 21:20.17 | mewyn | tcman: all depends on the work you put into it |
| 21:20.31 | TCMAN | at least newegg and directron has black face plates for toshiba optical drives now |
| 21:20.34 | mewyn | do some sanding, buffing and a good clear coat, it looks good |
| 21:20.38 | ljp | ya, vercel. the multimedia linux/qtopia pda that wasnt |
| 21:20.48 | mewyn | ah |
| 21:20.49 | TCMAN | black is THE color :) |
| 21:21.07 | mewyn | i need to find a metallic blue dvd rom drive :) |
| 21:21.22 | ljp | had a prototype device from Lineo, and it no workie now |
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| 21:21.38 | TCMAN | mewyn: hehe, you'll have to paint it yourself |
| 21:21.53 | TCMAN | bicycle or car paint works ok |
| 21:22.20 | mewyn | i'm using some good rustoleum |
| 21:22.38 | Masticator | computer aesthetics are fucking overrated |
| 21:22.45 | Masticator | I just buy whatever taiwanese shit is the cheapest |
| 21:22.55 | mewyn | i'm all about making it mine |
| 21:22.57 | ljp | bbiab |
| 21:23.03 | TCMAN | it sure confused all other people who wanted to use my computer at the office :) |
| 21:23.17 | mewyn | i'm not a beige person |
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| 21:23.23 | mewyn | tcman: heh |
| 21:23.32 | mewyn | i want a dvorak keyboard |
| 21:23.40 | mewyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.41 | TCMAN | Masticator: its important when you are married and your computer is in living room |
| 21:24.29 | TCMAN | well, if they couldnt work with keyboards with no marking they havent had any business with me or my computer anyway :) |
| 21:34.30 | mewyn | gah. it's friday and i have nothing to d |
| 21:34.45 | mewyn | o |
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| 21:40.55 | Speedy2 | Hey Phil. |
| 21:40.59 | Speedy2 | Yo all. |
| 21:42.23 | pb_ | hi Speedy2 |
| 21:48.34 | fishhead | http://www.microturbine.com/installations/region.cfm?OptionID=35 <---- hahahaha they can even suck unprocessed gases off a oil well for fuel, cool! |
| 21:50.34 | fishhead | whoa they can run off the gases from a landfill and the exhaust heat can drive heating and cooling systems, holy crap |
| 21:50.51 | mewyn | http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,84078,00.html |
| 21:50.58 | mewyn | hey Speedy2 |
| 21:51.32 | Speedy2 | Hey mewyn |
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| 22:01.42 | ljp | hmm |
| 22:02.29 | pb_ | quite. |
| 22:02.32 | Speedy2 | Hey ljp. |
| 22:02.53 | ljp | damn it, that scsi disk needs a few touches of a soldering iron |
| 22:02.56 | ljp | hey speedy |
| 22:04.15 | prpplague | ljp: naw, heat it with a paint remover heating gun, that works well, lol |
| 22:04.27 | chouimat | re |
| 22:04.30 | ljp | and I cant find a soldering iron here |
| 22:05.00 | ljp | no, theres two tungs from the connector to the disk that came unsoldered. |
| 22:05.12 | ljp | who frickin designed this things anyway |
| 22:05.23 | Speedy2 | What brand HDD? |
| 22:05.58 | ljp | ibm dnes-309170 |
| 22:06.10 | Speedy2 | Odd! |
| 22:06.21 | Speedy2 | Two "tungs" came off? |
| 22:06.48 | ljp | well, at least I know I can fix it, although I need to buy an iron, unless one of the guys here has one, but its saturday |
| 22:07.24 | ljp | ya, little pieces of cwire connector that go between the cable connector and the drive itself. assinine design |
| 22:07.32 | ljp | wire, not cwire |
| 22:07.36 | TCMAN | ljp: maybe use conductive pen or glue |
| 22:07.36 | Speedy2 | Ah, I know what you're talking about |
| 22:07.48 | Speedy2 | The "fingers" that go from the connector to the PCB |
| 22:07.50 | Speedy2 | ? |
| 22:07.50 | ljp | two on the end are loose |
| 22:09.55 | ljp | usually there's some kind of cover over this part |
| 22:10.26 | ljp | something does not want ofileselector to get fixed |
| 22:15.46 | TCMAN | have anyone tried hostap 0.0.4 yet? |
| 22:22.04 | fishhead | cool |
| 22:22.10 | fishhead | it's possible to trap int10 to a lcd |
| 22:22.30 | fishhead | bet I could make a bios hacked in module |
| 22:23.35 | fishhead | mabye a crude video card isa card that would remap video access to a lcd |
| 22:36.58 | Speedy2 | int10 ? |
| 22:40.51 | fishhead | video |
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| 22:58.47 | prh | hey |
| 22:58.59 | prh | anyone familiar with the oz build ? |
| 22:59.45 | prh | (sorry about the pun) |
| 23:00.19 | treke | yes |
| 23:04.07 | ljp | ya |
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| 23:40.20 | Neo|Work | Masticator: today is my last day. going to work for TI |
| 23:45.08 | mewyn | neo: you too? |
| 23:45.19 | mewyn | what the fuck is going on there!? :) |
| 23:45.28 | aman | heheh |
| 23:46.47 | aman | i wanna too! |
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| 23:47.22 | kergoth | hrm |
| 23:48.09 | treke | they are hiring all of the embedded linux developers, taking them to Texas, and hanging them |
| 23:50.24 | Masticator | hey anyone seen this? |
| 23:50.27 | chouimat | treke: hehe |
| 23:50.30 | Masticator | http://www.tk421.net/character/ |
| 23:50.47 | Masticator | TI, otherwise known as purgatory for Infinte Purple |
| 23:50.48 | Masticator | lol |
| 23:51.09 | Masticator | I'm Ambassador G'kar! |
| 23:51.27 | ljp | its really good that TI is hiring people from the zaurus community here. its a very good sign |
| 23:51.30 | chouimat | Masticator: http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/div_bilder/siamese.jpg |
| 23:51.50 | Masticator | lol |
| 23:53.58 | Speedy2 | <-- James T. Kirk |
| 23:54.05 | Masticator | Speedy2, thats scary |
| 23:54.25 | Masticator | Neo|Work: what are you gonna do at TI? |
| 23:54.36 | chouimat | <--- Boromir |
| 23:55.23 | yeiazel | <--- han solo |
| 23:56.52 | treke | <--- greg gilbert |
| 23:58.08 | ljp | neo will be the goofer |
