| 00:07.47 | W8TVI | werid... when I try to connect to the new server it disconnects me after I give it my user name and password |
| 00:16.54 | ljp | does buildroot use opie HEAD |
| 00:17.09 | Harlekin | configurable |
| 00:17.22 | Harlekin | you can define the branch |
| 00:18.12 | ljp | hmm. so I need to fix the opie patches for all branches? |
| 00:18.39 | treke | ljp: worry about the patches for 1.0 |
| 00:18.45 | ljp | ok |
| 00:19.00 | treke | ljp: Most of them will probably apply against head without trouble or will become unneeded with HEAD |
| 00:19.11 | ljp | OPIE_BRANCH_1.0? |
| 00:19.22 | treke | yeah |
| 00:19.29 | Harlekin | that and head |
| 00:19.35 | Harlekin | remove the makefile patch from those |
| 00:19.42 | ljp | I will |
| 00:19.48 | Harlekin | and then notify groucho to do future qt builds with 2.3.7 |
| 00:20.46 | kergoth | its not OPIE_BRANCH_1.0, its BRANCH_1_0, iirc |
| 00:21.03 | ljp | k |
| 00:21.21 | treke | ljp: at the moment I'm building v1_0, but you might want to track BRANCH_1_0 for patches |
| 00:21.31 | Harlekin | yeah, since kergoth argues that its quite sure that its OPIE .-) |
| 00:21.57 | treke | actually no. that would make no sense |
| 00:21.57 | treke | :) |
| 00:22.05 | Harlekin | treke: branch has some nice fixes |
| 00:22.54 | ljp | whats the co option for specifying a branch? |
| 00:23.06 | treke | -r |
| 00:24.04 | ljp | my brain cant seem to think. standing on my head all the time |
| 01:27.20 | ljp | funny how those three all leave at the same time... |
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| 01:27.40 | zar | hy all |
| 01:28.10 | ljp | hi |
| 01:33.31 | Harlekin | ljp: working in the same cubicle |
| 01:33.33 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 01:34.07 | ljp | I think drw is on a differen tfloor |
| 01:34.14 | ljp | different floor, even |
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| 01:37.17 | aman | hola |
| 01:37.41 | Harlekin | kergoth`bbl: allready? |
| 01:37.57 | aman | kergoth`bbl done any mmc/sd work for .21? |
| 01:38.07 | kergoth`bbl | aman: nope, like i said, been busy with work |
| 01:38.19 | aman | k |
| 01:38.22 | kergoth`bbl | might do some work with it tonight |
| 01:38.26 | aman | OE going well? |
| 01:38.58 | kergoth`bbl | OE is pretty solid, there are about 5-6 pending items that TI needs, and another 10-15 miscellanious items, on the todo |
| 01:39.12 | aman | nice nice |
| 01:41.16 | kergoth`bbl | those 5-6 are upstream source issues, we need those to replace opie's buildsystem as well. the others are higher level items for distribution level stuff |
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| 04:36.36 | fishy | caffinee my friend! |
| 04:36.54 | kergoth`bbl | i dont own a coffee machine, and i'm out of soda |
| 04:37.30 | ljp | eeekk |
| 04:37.46 | ljp | Sugar: make kergoth a long island ice tea |
| 04:40.05 | kergoth`bbl | hmm, a drink. not a bad idea. |
| 04:40.43 | ljp | kinda early, no? |
| 04:40.50 | ljp | or late, maybe |
| 04:41.16 | ljp | oh that reminds me, I should bring home my bottle of wine |
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| 13:32.32 | Twiun | So... anyone tried that brand new, sparkling first boot change? |
| 13:39.53 | Twiun | guess not ;) |
| 13:40.07 | Twiun | I'll start pissing about with the ssh-server keygen stuff |
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| 14:01.35 | hcl | hm... any idea why the kernel in the current buildroot wont compile? |
| 14:06.25 | mickeyl|bbl | Twiun: I'm about to compile an image - does the first boot work yt? |
| 14:06.27 | mickeyl|bbl | yet? |
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| 14:15.43 | aman | Twiun what change |
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| 14:32.35 | Twiun | mickeyl|bbl: yup, it works fine |
| 14:32.53 | Twiun | aman: removed all the recursion in the packages script |
| 14:36.26 | Twiun | I'm now going to move the initial keygen to the sshd start script |
| 14:36.33 | pb_ | cool |
| 14:36.34 | Twiun | mind you... |
| 14:36.41 | Twiun | doesn't sshd get started in the postinst? |
| 14:36.53 | pb_ | btw, are you guys using dropbear, or still openssh? |
| 14:37.04 | Twiun | it's still openssh |
| 14:37.15 | Twiun | last I remember some software had issues with dropbear? |
| 14:37.28 | pb_ | we've been using dropbear in familiar for a few weeks now, and it seems to be ok. |
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| 14:38.13 | Harlekin | Twiun: i think its broken currently |
| 14:41.25 | Twiun | Harlekin: the packages script or dropbear? |
| 14:41.40 | mickeyl | iirc we didn't have issues with dropbear but dropbear lacks a ssh client - which we need. |
| 14:42.44 | pb_ | oh, yeah, that's right. you'd have to use either lsh-client or openssh there. |
| 14:42.44 | mickeyl | so if someone would take the dropbear code to implement a lightweight ssh client, we could switch |
| 14:43.06 | mickeyl | right. and if we use openssh we gain _nothing_ because its fatness was the reason to look for alternatives. |
| 14:43.23 | pb_ | I think dropbear is still smaller than opensshd, even if you have to keep libcrypto. |
| 14:43.47 | pb_ | lsh-client would be worth investigating though. |
| 14:44.11 | Harlekin | Twiun: the sshd postinst |
| 14:44.38 | mickeyl | hmm... looks good. |
| 14:44.49 | Harlekin | Twiun: does not genereate keys, so sshd cannot start |
| 14:45.26 | mickeyl | Harlekin: this is known. twiun is in the progress to move it into the init-skript of sshd which will be fine. |
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| 14:54.49 | mickeyl | urgh |
| 14:54.56 | mickeyl | lsh-client needs the gmp ? |
| 14:55.22 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 14:55.25 | mickeyl | so much for the lightweight |
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| 14:56.26 | pb_ | ah. |
| 14:56.36 | pb_ | gpe already depends on gmp, so I guess I didn't spot that. |
| 14:56.51 | mickeyl | well... i'll add that two and let's see how big it gets... |
| 14:57.07 | mickeyl | s/two/too |
| 14:57.56 | pb_ | ok, cool. |
| 14:58.10 | mickeyl | one step towards gmp, also ;) |
| 14:58.15 | mickeyl | s/gmp/gpe |
| 14:58.19 | mickeyl | it's too hot to think |
| 14:58.46 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:59.51 | pb_ | fwiw, libgmp3 is 160k or so on my ipaq. |
| 15:01.18 | pb_ | actually, the only thing in gpe that depends on libgmp is gpe-minicalc. I had thought that libgcrypt used it for some reason. |
| 15:02.28 | mickeyl | hmm... lhs also contains a server. using client and server from lsh-utils might be better than just using lsh-client and dropbear... |
| 15:02.50 | pb_ | apparently dropbear is a better server, though I don't recall why. |
| 15:03.12 | pb_ | maybe your idea of implementing a new client a la dropbear is the best one after all. |
| 15:05.39 | mickeyl | umm... wtf |
| 15:05.57 | mickeyl | projects/openzaurus/output/staging/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/projects/openzaurus/output/staging/target/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm1100 -mapcs-32 ... yes |
| 15:05.57 | mickeyl | checking whether ARM gcc unsigned division works... no, gcc 2.95.0123 |
| 15:05.57 | mickeyl | configure: error: could not find a working compiler |
| 15:06.14 | mickeyl | now that's nice :( |
| 15:08.04 | pb_ | suck |
| 15:08.33 | mickeyl | yeah - since 2.95.4 has problems with kernel or else we would just use that |
| 15:08.45 | pb_ | it does? 2.95.4 has been ok for kernels for me. |
| 15:08.52 | pb_ | of course, 3.3 would be even better :-} |
| 15:09.24 | mickeyl | pb_: yeah, on c7x0 if you compile a kernel with 2.95.4 it crashes even _before_ it can output anything on serial. it just hangs |
| 15:09.42 | pb_ | whoa, that's weird. |
| 15:09.52 | Harlekin | pb_: used 3.3 to compile a 2.4.6? |
| 15:09.59 | Masticator | sup dudes. |
| 15:10.00 | Harlekin | i still have hopes that 3.4 gets a good compiler |
| 15:10.24 | Masticator | ah the never ending compiler clusterfuck |
| 15:10.47 | mickeyl | hi Masticator - yeah having fun again |
| 15:10.54 | pb_ | Harlekin: no, I haven't compiled 2.4.6 for a year or so. |
| 15:10.58 | Masticator | we go thru this ever few months dont we |
| 15:10.59 | Harlekin | see |
| 15:11.06 | mickeyl | lucky you, pb_ :) |
| 15:11.23 | Harlekin | mickeyl: maybe switch to the intel xscale compiler , thats really a good one |
| 15:11.34 | mickeyl | TimRiker: please let kergoth finish the work on 2.4.21-cl1. having to support 2.4.6 is ridicolous for our project... |
| 15:11.54 | Masticator | yeah 2.4.6 has to go |
| 15:11.56 | pb_ | mickeyl: can't you just use 2.4.18 as released by sharp, as an interim measure? |
| 15:12.13 | mickeyl | pb_: no - seems not that easy. a few people tried at it and failed |
| 15:12.17 | pb_ | ah. |
| 15:12.23 | mickeyl | pb_: no idea 'bout details though |
| 15:12.28 | pb_ | oh well. |
| 15:13.13 | pb_ | having Chris finish 2.4.21 does seem like the right answer, anyway. |
| 15:13.50 | mickeyl | yeah. seems it's not missing much. i have it here on a 5500 and it performs so much better than .6 |
| 15:14.06 | pb_ | is it just SD that lacks? |
| 15:14.42 | mickeyl | pb_: no - but just a couple of minor issues - sd, apm, ts not 100% accurate, |
| 15:14.46 | mickeyl | such things |
| 15:15.01 | pb_ | ah right |
| 15:15.06 | bisho | and the usb thing is working on 21? |
| 15:15.17 | bisho | On my zaurus didn't |
| 15:15.28 | bisho | but probably is only missing modules |
| 15:15.28 | mickeyl | ah well... add the "porting usb-gadget-tree" to .21 :) |
| 15:15.33 | bisho | I dunno... |
| 15:15.39 | bisho | :) |
| 15:16.11 | bisho | Anyway... really .21 feels faster... great thing... |
| 15:16.14 | bisho | :) |
| 15:17.32 | absentia | the zaurus seems so pathetically sluggish |
| 15:17.48 | absentia | 400mhz |
| 15:17.50 | absentia | where does it all go ? |
| 15:17.58 | mickeyl | which one? |
| 15:19.00 | bisho | my oldish 5500 feels fast... |
| 15:19.56 | absentia | ya, people say that the 5500 does mame faster than the 700.. |
| 15:20.08 | absentia | unfortuantely, I haven't seen any *real* benchmarks comparing the 5500 to the 700 or 750 |
| 15:20.16 | absentia | the 700 to 750 ... looks like no difference |
| 15:20.17 | bisho | faster that 700? |
| 15:20.25 | mickeyl | ha |
| 15:20.30 | mickeyl | 750 is definitly faster |
| 15:20.31 | absentia | yes, faster than 700 |
| 15:20.39 | Harlekin | thats not hard |
| 15:20.41 | absentia | on the 700, for instance, mame can't seem to get past 25% speed. |
| 15:20.44 | Harlekin | pxa 250 vs 255 |
| 15:20.52 | absentia | harl: ya? look at the numbers. |
| 15:20.54 | mickeyl | actually, the 700 slowness is probably 1.) cache-bug 2.) unoptimized xscale-code 3.) unaccellerated fb |
| 15:20.57 | bisho | Anyway, have into account that c700 has to draw much more pixels... |
| 15:21.01 | absentia | I think #2 . |
| 15:21.13 | absentia | bish: not really... mame won't run in 640x480 |
| 15:21.15 | absentia | or 480x640 |
| 15:21.20 | absentia | it gets corrupted display |
| 15:21.27 | Harlekin | ist mostly 1 and 3 in combination with 4 times the pixes to foll |
| 15:21.30 | Harlekin | fill |
| 15:21.33 | absentia | you have to load up terminal to get magnified display, and then it wil run in mega pixel 320x200 |
| 15:22.08 | absentia | still, 400mhz... you'd think it could do more than 12fps .... with video... |
| 15:22.14 | absentia | at 320x200 |
| 15:22.21 | absentia | it's just confusing ... to me. |
| 15:22.32 | bisho | but its sacalled? |
| 15:22.46 | bisho | scalling could use a lot of CPU |
| 15:22.51 | bisho | if the fb is not accel |
| 15:23.46 | bisho | I could change my 5500 by your C700 if you want |
| 15:23.48 | bisho | :))) |
| 15:23.56 | bisho | jheehehe |
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| 15:32.46 | aman | kergoth sup |
| 15:33.55 | kergoth | ibot: friday |
| 15:33.56 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 15:34.55 | aman | heh |
| 15:35.03 | aman | im pissed, my laptop lcd cracked |
| 15:35.07 | kergoth | ouch |
| 15:35.23 | Twiun | nasty |
| 15:35.24 | Harlekin | aman: steped on it? |
| 15:35.30 | aman | nah, i dunno how it happened |
| 15:35.40 | Harlekin | .oO( alcohol ) |
| 15:35.46 | aman | was using it in car, left it there while i got lunch, came back and it was cracked |
| 15:35.49 | aman | i think the heat did it |
| 15:35.56 | mickeyl | sucky |
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| 15:48.13 | Laze | ibot:beer |
| 15:48.14 | | i guess beer is ummm, ummm good! |
| 15:52.16 | Twiun | INTERVIEW MONDAY 2PM!!! |
| 15:52.35 | pb_ | Twiun: cool! |
| 15:52.46 | kergoth | Twiun: nice, good luck |
| 15:53.21 | pb_ | Twiun: what's the position you're interviewing for? |
| 15:53.42 | Twiun | pb_: JDK 1.1 contract dev |
| 15:53.49 | DanWilliams | Twiun: congrats! |
| 15:54.05 | Twiun | pb_: some Oracle SQL, some c++ and a pinch of j2ee |
| 15:54.22 | Twiun | pb_: the agent reckons £25-34/hr |
| 15:54.33 | Twiun | pb_: contract's until feb |
| 15:55.01 | pb_ | Twiun: ah right, not bad. |
| 15:55.14 | pb_ | hope it goes well on Monday. |
| 15:55.25 | Twiun | me too |
| 15:55.43 | Twiun | I would prefer permanent - but jobhunters can't be choosers I suppose |
| 15:56.51 | pb_ | yeah. |
| 15:57.24 | Twiun | got another 3 possibilities in the pipeline, so who knows |
| 15:59.43 | treke | sweet. hh20 sounds like it will fix mmc |
| 16:02.28 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 16:02.58 | pb_ | yeah, should do. I'll build the hh20 binaries within the next couple of hours. |
| 16:03.26 | treke | sweet. dont forget to tag cvs |
| 16:04.59 | pb_ | right :-) |
| 16:05.38 | treke | also, remember this is 2.4.19 not 2.4.18 :p |
| 16:10.35 | TimRiker | mickeyl: I'm not stopping him. I'm just giving him other work to do. ;-) At least he's online at home now. |
| 16:19.19 | Twiun | TimRiker: that's right - have him do 8 hours TI work, then another 12 OZ work - cool with me ;) |
| 16:22.57 | kergoth | hah, like thatll happen |
| 16:22.58 | kergoth | :) |
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| 16:35.49 | Harlekin | ah, texas style motivation |
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| 16:44.38 | pb_ | treke: heh. out of the last three kernel releases, it seems I tagged two wrongly and forgot the other one altogether. |
| 16:44.51 | treke | :) |
| 16:45.00 | pb_ | however, this time I was ultra-careful. |
| 16:45.05 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.09 | treke | oh well. Most people can use binaries |
| 16:46.42 | pb_ | yeah. well, the "2.4.18" tags are usable, just not intuitively named, and hh19a didn't actually have any source changes so it would have been the same as hh19 had I remembered to tag it. |
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| 17:01.41 | absentia | quantum: yes, you can. |
| 17:03.13 | Twiun | damn. Here I've gone to all this trouble to find that whip and Tim logs off |
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| 17:27.18 | chouimat69 | hi |
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| 18:00.38 | icefox | Afternoon |
| 18:01.48 | icefox | Anyone know how to tell the touch screen driver to simulate a touch on a screan at x,y? |
| 18:03.45 | treke | you insert a pipe where /dev/ts is, have your program read from the touch screen device, and write to /dev/ts, inserting the fake events when you want them |
| 18:04.21 | icefox | that easy? cool |
| 18:04.50 | treke | icefox: look at the vncserver source code |
| 18:07.44 | icefox | will do, thanks |
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| 19:25.55 | treke | ugh, g++ is slow as hell |
| 19:26.05 | imk | very |
| 19:26.51 | treke | at least it works |
| 19:28.04 | imk | speaking of slow... i feel slow |
| 19:28.13 | imk | i havent slept in days... and when i talk outloud... its like... slow |
| 19:28.33 | imk | i feel like i have to talk louder cause i cant hear what im saying |
| 19:28.54 | imk | this, of course, is the best time to code |
| 19:31.44 | mickeyl | treke: what are you doing? templates? |
| 19:32.02 | Dr_Who | c++ ... ewwww |
| 19:32.16 | treke | mickeyl: dunno. Just compiling an app. Havent looked at the code |
| 19:32.27 | mickeyl | treke: ah. well - you're right in general :) |
| 19:32.57 | treke | Just commenting on the fact that it seemed to be doing one file every 30 seconds :) |
| 19:33.46 | pb_ | treke: get a faster computer |
| 19:34.02 | treke | pb_: Perhaps. :) |
| 19:34.19 | treke | this one is only a dual 1.2ghz athlon. |
| 19:35.25 | pb_ | ah, well then. |
| 19:40.02 | mickeyl | ummm... evolution over X sucks |
| 19:40.07 | mickeyl | well... with DSL actually |
| 19:40.15 | mickeyl | i wish i had a command line frontend to evolution |
| 19:41.29 | treke | it does. It's called mutt |
| 19:41.30 | treke | :) |
| 19:43.10 | mickeyl | umm... hardly |
| 19:43.57 | pb_ | mickeyl: mallum was raving about the X protocol compression code from nomachine. maybe you could try that. |
| 19:44.20 | mickeyl | pb_: is that built in yet? if so, any idea how to activate it? |
| 19:47.37 | pb_ | no, it's an add-on package. |
| 19:48.10 | pb_ | X does have an old protocol extension called LBX builtin, but it never worked very well; you get better results by turning LBX off and letting ssh compress the data. |
| 19:48.35 | treke | ha |
| 19:49.52 | pb_ | I think http://www.nomachine.com/ is the url for the NX stuff. |
| 19:50.37 | mickeyl | thanx - checking |
| 19:53.01 | tronical | nx is really cool (just a pity the server part is closed source :( |
| 20:12.46 | mickeyl | tronical: ha! you there? :) |
| 20:12.53 | tronical | a little bit :) |
| 20:13.07 | mickeyl | tronical: did you get all our polite requests to please update xine in oz-buildroot? |
| 20:13.09 | mickeyl | :) |
| 20:13.44 | tronical | mickeyl: got only one, from Harlekin ;-) , and back then I had no way to compile oz |
| 20:13.58 | tronical | mickeyl: I actually once locally updated to beta12, but I ran into problems with video |
| 20:14.28 | tronical | mickeyl: I need to get in touch with Dilb. Harlekin said he made new patches. once I have those I'll update |
| 20:15.13 | mickeyl | tronical: * Harlekin has joined #opie |
| 20:15.22 | mickeyl | ah ok looking for dilb |
| 20:23.08 | treke | anyone else just feel like just going home now? |
| 20:25.37 | mickeyl | not me |
| 20:25.57 | mickeyl | maybe because i already did that 6 hours ago *grin* |
| 20:26.09 | mickeyl | timezones are a funny invention |
| 20:30.47 | treke | the man who invented them should be drug out into the street and beaten, shot, hanged, drawn and quartered, then shot again |
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| 21:26.54 | Neo|Work | I believe my GPS is now waiting at home |
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| 21:45.35 | TCMAN | hi |
| 22:02.43 | Twiun | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.11 | mickeyl | Twiun: got distracted by getting lsh to work |
| 22:13.29 | mickeyl | yeah - which finally (after tweaking hours and getting dependencies to work) compiles |
| 22:14.35 | treke | man. plucker is fricken slow |
| 22:15.05 | treke | I started it retrieving files before I left for work and it's still going |
| 22:15.19 | Twiun | plucker's that IM method, right? |
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| 22:15.30 | treke | it's the avant go type thing |
| 22:15.36 | Twiun | oh |
| 22:15.44 | Twiun | got it mixed up with something else |
| 22:15.48 | treke | jabber |
| 22:15.59 | Twiun | nah, I meant input method |
| 22:16.08 | treke | dasher? |
| 22:16.38 | Twiun | that's it |
| 22:46.15 | Twiun | what was that thing with the new qte upgrade in the buildroot? |
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| 22:56.00 | kergoth | hmmmm |
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| 23:06.04 | Twiun | bah, nm, I'll look into more of this next week |
| 23:06.09 | Twiun | g'night guys |
| 23:26.07 | treke | hmmm. It's really rare that tech support impresses me, but unitech fricken rocks |
| 23:27.08 | treke | not automated system, just a tech answering the phone who knew the answer to my question immedietly :) |
| 23:27.36 | kergoth | woah |
| 23:27.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:33.44 | W8TVI | weird... opie-networksettingsplugin-wlan uninstalled it self... |
| 23:40.12 | treke | nothing uninstalls itself |
| 23:42.04 | W8TVI | well I didn't remove it,, and I just tried to remove it and it tolme e it wasnt installed |
| 23:45.08 | pb_ | maybe you installed something that forced it off. |
| 23:45.21 | treke | pb_: does that feature work yet? :) |
| 23:45.49 | pb_ | treke: certainly works with Replaces. plain Conflicts might still be a bit flaky. |
| 23:47.03 | treke | maybe we should all just go back to tarballs. This packagement stuff is complicated :) |
| 23:47.28 | pb_ | hehe, yeah |
| 23:48.43 | pb_ | well, familiar 0.7.1 includes a shiny new version of ipkg, which should be a bit less of a lemon than some previous releases. |
| 23:53.45 | W8TVI | wep still dont work right |
| 23:55.38 | W8TVI | now why would embededkonsole start and give me a blank screen and now cli? |
| 23:59.55 | W8TVI | do I need lrzrsz to use embeddedkonsole? |