| 00:01.12 | TheMasterMind1 | k, mrproper and started over. works now |
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| 00:01.40 | noda | Moo! |
| 00:01.44 | Harlekin | yo |
| 00:01.54 | noda | Harlekin: Long time no see :) |
| 00:01.57 | TheMasterMind1 | hey noda |
| 00:01.58 | TheMasterMind1 | wassup |
| 00:02.13 | noda | I'm thinking of coding a mouse-gestures plugin for Epiphany :) |
| 00:02.19 | Harlekin | noda: not here at least |
| 00:02.25 | noda | Harlekin: I only go on here :) |
| 00:02.29 | noda | (pretty much) |
| 00:02.43 | noda | So, what's new, everybody? :) |
| 00:03.22 | kergoth | mickeyl: you try one of those kernels? |
| 00:03.44 | mickeyl | kergoth: grr i accidantly deleted my initrd.bin and now i'm compiling it again.... waiting... |
| 00:03.50 | mickeyl | kergoth: is your initrd build finished? |
| 00:04.57 | TheMasterMind1 | arm-linux-ld: ERROR: process.o uses hardware FP, whereas kernel.o uses software FP |
| 00:04.58 | TheMasterMind1 | File format not recognized: failed to merge target specific data of file process.o |
| 00:05.12 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: galeon used to support gestures.. then one day it didn't |
| 00:05.13 | TheMasterMind1 | :( |
| 00:05.28 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Yes they do. Just edit in gconf |
| 00:05.40 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 00:05.43 | TheMasterMind1 | gotta do it that way |
| 00:05.52 | noda | /apps/galeon -- the descriptions are all there, not hard to find :) |
| 00:06.01 | noda | (I love gconf schemas, SO much better than Windows registry) |
| 00:06.06 | TheMasterMind1 | how do you edit gconf btw |
| 00:06.14 | TheMasterMind1 | there was some graphical tool to do it |
| 00:06.17 | noda | TheMasterMind1: gconf-editor |
| 00:06.31 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Using GNOME? It's Applications/System Tools/Configuration Editor |
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| 00:06.55 | TheMasterMind1 | gotta install the deb first |
| 00:07.29 | noda | Oh, another sweet thing about gconf: every change gets applied instantly to all open apps :) |
| 00:11.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any idea what that kernel thing is |
| 00:11.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: build with gcc 3.3. |
| 00:11.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: need to patch it to work with 2.95.x again |
| 00:12.03 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 00:12.16 | kergoth | theres a 3.3 chain on openzaurus.org |
| 00:12.26 | TheMasterMind1 | excellent |
| 00:13.37 | kergoth | mickeyl: nah my build is still going |
| 00:13.47 | chouimat | mmmm this blackberry beer is very very good |
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| 00:14.25 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any clues as to where to start trying to fix TS? |
| 00:14.32 | mickeyl | kergoth: ok. mine will finish soon. |
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| 00:15.09 | mickeyl | thank god it is friday nite here.... 02:14... usually that's time for bed .... but not tonite :D |
| 00:15.17 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: no, someone has to test it to see the behavior |
| 00:15.18 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:15.18 | treke | evening pb |
| 00:15.56 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: k |
| 00:17.40 | kergoth | did anyone ever check out nptl for arm? |
| 00:17.51 | chouimat | ? |
| 00:18.16 | kergoth | the alternative threads implementation |
| 00:18.21 | chouimat | nope |
| 00:19.36 | TheMasterMind1 | alternative to pthread? |
| 00:19.59 | kergoth | alternative to linuxthreads |
| 00:20.08 | mickeyl | talking 'bout alternatives... did anyone benchmark the two floating point emulators in the arm-kernel? |
| 00:20.22 | treke | kergoth: What is the benefit? |
| 00:20.26 | kergoth | someone has, check the LA archives |
| 00:20.31 | mickeyl | k |
| 00:22.38 | kergoth | damnit, out of disk space again |
| 00:22.44 | chouimat | grrrr it's friday and I'm stuck home finishing those fucking contracts |
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| 00:22.57 | treke | dammit. All this time my inputmethod problems have been a bad make file |
| 00:23.09 | treke | I spent hours with this shit :) |
| 00:23.22 | andersee | kergoth: I have a TB or so of extra drive in my closet |
| 00:23.25 | chouimat | treke: do you have keyboard problems on 2.6.0-test1-mm2? |
| 00:23.34 | treke | chouimat: no |
| 00:23.44 | treke | I dont use 2.6.0-test1-mm2 |
| 00:23.47 | chouimat | damn! |
| 00:23.55 | treke | I use 2.6.0-test1 |
| 00:24.09 | kergoth | i havent had any problems with -mm1 |
| 00:24.28 | chouimat | ok then it's kovilas patch that make my keyboard sucks |
| 00:24.36 | kergoth | i'm using -mm1-O7 |
| 00:24.41 | kergoth | con's O6+O6.1+O7 |
| 00:25.07 | chouimat | kergoth: same here and I put my repeat key delay at 1.5second |
| 00:25.08 | mickeyl | ugh |
| 00:25.11 | mickeyl | one sanity question |
| 00:25.22 | mickeyl | kergoth: is it zImage.bin or zimage.bin? and does it matter? |
| 00:25.33 | bipolar | kergoth: is there a fixed kernel for the TS thing for me to test? |
| 00:25.51 | kergoth | mickeyl: zimage.bin, dunno |
| 00:25.57 | kergoth | bipolar: ? |
| 00:25.59 | TheMasterMind1 | ooh, mm2. i wanna see the changelog for that |
| 00:26.01 | mickeyl | k. flashing again |
| 00:26.04 | mickeyl | *crossingFingers* |
| 00:26.09 | kergoth | bipolar: you act like i know what the problem is or something. |
| 00:26.14 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: mm1 with con's o7 |
| 00:26.33 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh |
| 00:27.13 | TheMasterMind1 | -vesafb-fix.patch |
| 00:27.13 | TheMasterMind1 | ooh |
| 00:27.21 | bipolar | kergoth: there is no ts driver in the kernel or a module. I thought that was it. |
| 00:27.27 | bipolar | :\ |
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| 00:28.10 | mickeyl | yahooo |
| 00:28.15 | mickeyl | reconfiguring packages... |
| 00:28.20 | bipolar | <kergoth`brb> i'll build a devfs kernel in a few << and that |
| 00:28.25 | kergoth | bipolar: do you just not pay attention or what? |
| 00:28.30 | kergoth | bipolar: TS WAS ENABLED AND BUILD IN |
| 00:28.37 | kergoth | there is no ts driver my ass. |
| 00:28.48 | bipolar | kergoth: :/ |
| 00:30.14 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:30.50 | mickeyl | cursor blinking after 72 pof 72 packages... but nothing more. |
| 00:30.55 | mickeyl | i need that serial cable damnit |
| 00:33.58 | fishhead2 | CANUCKS |
| 00:35.14 | mickeyl | kergoth: ok - all is missing is a console... but it seems the kernel boots and reconfigures my packages... now where did i leave my console... :D |
| 00:36.27 | mickeyl | oh and i can't turn it off of course... |
| 00:37.11 | kergoth | no console? odd |
| 00:37.19 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 00:37.22 | kergoth | my build's still going |
| 00:37.38 | mickeyl | ok, maybe i just b0rke something in initrd... |
| 00:37.39 | kergoth | distributing my cpu between shepherd image build and collie 2.4.21 kenrel builds |
| 00:37.45 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 00:37.51 | mickeyl | nice 10 collie build |
| 00:37.53 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 00:37.56 | kergoth | so you flashed the zimage.bin i sent you then? |
| 00:37.59 | kergoth | or one you built? |
| 00:38.05 | mickeyl | kergoth: the one you uploaded. |
| 00:38.11 | kergoth | k shepherd kernel is building in my buildroot |
| 00:38.16 | kergoth | i'll flash it whe it completes and test |
| 00:38.28 | Harlekin | n8 |
| 00:38.35 | mickeyl | kergoth: great. i drank that much coffee i can stay up for another hour or so ;) |
| 00:39.49 | fishhead2 | HELP ME FIT MEMTEST86 INTO A ETHERNIC ROM NOW! |
| 00:39.52 | fishhead2 | OR I WILL KILL YOU ALL |
| 00:39.53 | fishhead2 | MUHAHAHAHA |
| 00:39.55 | fishhead2 | :p |
| 00:40.35 | mickeyl | ibot: kill fishhead2 |
| 00:40.36 | | ACTION executes killall -9 fishhead2 |
| 00:40.43 | fishhead2 | heh :) |
| 00:40.52 | fishhead2 | ibot have a tasty botsnack |
| 00:40.52 | | fishhead2: aw, gee |
| 00:40.57 | fishhead2 | ibot have a tasty botsnack |
| 00:40.57 | | fishhead2: :) |
| 00:41.01 | fishhead2 | :) |
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| 00:41.21 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: with devfs, dies in the same place |
| 00:41.54 | kergoth | why am i the only one that can build anything all of a sudden |
| 00:42.08 | mickeyl | karma |
| 00:45.54 | kergoth | k usb-ether is working in 2.4.21 |
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| 00:46.08 | chouimat | kergoth: maybe because you don't have a life |
| 00:46.36 | drakonite | chouimat: I don't have a life either, but i can't get mtd to build.. so that breaks THAT theory ;) |
| 00:46.47 | mickeyl | lol |
| 00:47.17 | fishhead2 | CANUCK! |
| 00:47.26 | fishhead2 | that's for your countries many acts of terrorism! |
| 00:47.29 | _Psycho | so ? |
| 00:47.30 | TheMasterMind1 | fishhead2: wtf |
| 00:47.32 | fishhead2 | like celin dion's titanic soundtrack! |
| 00:47.33 | treke | fishhead2: shut up |
| 00:47.36 | fishhead2 | or the sci fi series lexx |
| 00:47.37 | fishhead2 | :P |
| 00:47.40 | *** kick/#openembedded [fishhead2!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth (stop flooding) |
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| 00:47.48 | _Psycho | celine dion sold like 250millions of album in the usa |
| 00:47.53 | _Psycho | thats not us that are stupid |
| 00:47.55 | *** kick/#openembedded [fishhead2!~dieu@static-89-76.dsl.tht.net] by chouimat ( asshole) |
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| 00:47.58 | fishhead2 | no sense of humor |
| 00:48.00 | fishhead2 | sigh |
| 00:48.14 | *** kick/#openembedded [fishhead2!~kergoth@dsl081-228-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] by kergoth (s/no/better than my/) |
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| 00:48.23 | *** kick/#openembedded [fishhead2!~aman@h-69-3-159-22.MCLNVA23.covad.net] by TheMasterMind1 (sense of humor requires something funny to be said) |
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| 00:48.39 | drakonite | Ohhh! |
| 00:48.43 | *** kick/#openembedded [fishhead2!~dieu@static-89-76.dsl.tht.net] by chouimat (no only us Canucks can piss on celine) |
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| 00:48.49 | _Psycho | Btw hi everyone |
| 00:49.21 | chouimat | hi _Psycho |
| 00:49.52 | drakonite | grrr... it thinks my gcc is too old |
| 00:51.34 | fishhead2 | dude you can't do shit to me seriously |
| 00:51.41 | fishhead2 | you have no idea how fucked my my life is |
| 00:52.08 | _Psycho | drugs are bad |
| 00:52.12 | chouimat | don't tell me that celine is using you to cheat Rene |
| 00:52.13 | _Psycho | just drink beers |
| 00:52.26 | fishhead2 | yeah espically when they are prescribed and they destroy your insides so you are 29 with the body of a 90 yr old |
| 00:52.43 | fishhead2 | never drinking I was born with enough mental foul up |
| 00:53.12 | fishhead2 | but I do like embedded tech :P |
| 00:53.16 | kergoth | is this channel your personal shrink all of sudden? |
| 00:53.20 | kergoth | frankly i dont care |
| 00:53.57 | fishhead2 | kergoth no I was just making the point that threats should be aimed at someone who still gives a fuck |
| 00:54.56 | fishhead2 | so what's the preferred archtechiture here ? |
| 00:58.04 | kergoth | fishhead2: "threats"? |
| 00:58.15 | kergoth | fishhead2: chouimat didnt threaten you, nor did i. |
| 00:58.24 | fishhead2 | all the kicks to intidimate me |
| 00:58.27 | kergoth | most of us here use ARM device |
| 00:58.29 | kergoth | bullshit |
| 00:58.30 | fishhead2 | nice |
| 00:58.34 | kergoth | kicks because we're fucking bored |
| 00:58.34 | fishhead2 | arm rocks |
| 00:58.41 | kergoth | you take us far too seriously |
| 00:58.57 | kergoth | aha |
| 00:58.59 | kergoth | yo mickeyl |
| 00:59.05 | fishhead2 | mips is nice too |
| 00:59.07 | kergoth | i just built a shepherd kernel and booted it |
| 00:59.10 | fishhead2 | hell |
| 00:59.15 | kergoth | s/e$/ |
| 00:59.17 | fishhead2 | even intel's i386EX is neat |
| 00:59.35 | TheMasterMind1 | damn poc. if i could only get the wifi to pick up an ip i could ssh in and see whats up.. |
| 00:59.36 | fishhead2 | I can't believe the 186/188 is still in decent demand |
| 01:00.11 | fishhead2 | obviously not for a terminal or pda |
| 01:00.20 | fishhead2 | but running some corporations furnace and a/c |
| 01:00.23 | fishhead2 | they still rock |
| 01:01.08 | fishhead2 | I want to get some 8051's, atmel AVR's and mabye a microchip pic to play with eventually |
| 01:01.15 | fishhead2 | 3 more popular 8 bit microcontrollers |
| 01:01.27 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm. good |
| 01:01.42 | kergoth | mickeyl: let me check what toolchain i used |
| 01:01.44 | mickeyl | kergoth: maybe it was the zImage.bin vs. zimage.bin thing... i'll try again sometime |
| 01:01.57 | kergoth | mickeyl: erikm's 2.95.3 for the kernel |
| 01:02.05 | fishhead2 | kergoth did you read the latest info on arm |
| 01:02.06 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm... same here. |
| 01:02.12 | kergoth | fishhead2: 'latest info'? |
| 01:02.14 | mickeyl | kergoth: do you get a console? |
| 01:02.19 | kergoth | mickeyl: yeah, logged in fine |
| 01:02.23 | fishhead2 | they are playing with the idea of multiple cores on a chip |
| 01:02.28 | kergoth | mickeyl: my initrd.bin isnt complete yet |
| 01:02.31 | kergoth | mickeyl: i'm using an old one |
| 01:02.39 | kergoth | but this kernel booted fine, got the oz logo and everything |
| 01:04.27 | mickeyl | kergoth: you directly used the zImage in arch/arm/boot (or so) - didn't prepend or append with pad or something? |
| 01:04.57 | chouimat | kergoth: yup we kick because we are bored to not have a nice 36-24-36 chick waitin for us in bed ;) |
| 01:04.58 | kergoth | used it directly, which is odd since i'd expect to have to append the header |
| 01:05.10 | fishhead2 | heh |
| 01:05.13 | fishhead2 | chics |
| 01:05.34 | mickeyl | kergoth: append a header to the zImage? i thought only to the initrd.bin... |
| 01:05.45 | kergoth | mickeyl: err yeah, long dya |
| 01:05.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:05.50 | mickeyl | ah ok |
| 01:05.52 | chouimat | kergoth: we found some one worse than George!!!!!!! |
| 01:05.55 | kergoth | yeah just copied it to zimage.bin and flashed |
| 01:05.57 | kergoth | chouimat: scary |
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| 01:06.22 | kergoth | hey i'm not doing en ough things at once, i should start a poodle build and flash it too |
| 01:06.23 | chouimat | kergoth: yup and btw the kde developer are loosing patience against him |
| 01:06.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:06.31 | kergoth | lets hack on 4 pdas simultaniously! |
| 01:06.32 | fishhead2 | kergoth |
| 01:06.32 | fishhead2 | http://www.siliconstrategies.com/article/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=12808 |
| 01:07.09 | chouimat | kergoth: I wonder if I should call back this 18 years old chick ... I met her yesterday :) |
| 01:07.19 | mickeyl | kergoth: okay. if you have a valid initrd with console, I'd like to try again with my kernel renamed to all lowercase zimage.bin - just to iron out that potential failure. |
| 01:07.32 | _Psycho | chouimat of course you should |
| 01:07.35 | _Psycho | thats not a question |
| 01:07.42 | kergoth | mickeyl: k. my initrd build should be done shortly |
| 01:07.47 | kergoth | crap crap crap |
| 01:07.49 | kergoth | out of space again |
| 01:07.50 | mickeyl | kergoth: ? |
| 01:07.52 | mickeyl | oh |
| 01:07.52 | mickeyl | space |
| 01:07.56 | chouimat | _Psycho: she's weird |
| 01:07.58 | _Psycho | what device your image ? |
| 01:08.01 | kergoth | therein lies the problem with working for this many devices at once |
| 01:08.07 | _Psycho | chouimat if she can give you sex, call her ! :) |
| 01:08.08 | kergoth | _Psycho: working on c750 and 5500 at the moment |
| 01:08.11 | _Psycho | ah cool |
| 01:08.22 | _Psycho | is c750 kinda the same than c700 but different kernel ? |
| 01:08.40 | _Psycho | or the processor need his own thing ? |
| 01:08.46 | kergoth | _Psycho: yeah, initrd.bin different |
| 01:08.47 | chouimat | _Psycho: I said she's wierd ... |
| 01:08.51 | kergoth | the kernel has some slight differences |
| 01:08.56 | kergoth | like enabling fast context switching |
| 01:08.57 | _Psycho | I see was not sure |
| 01:08.59 | kergoth | which is pxa255 specific |
| 01:09.03 | kergoth | (iirc) |
| 01:09.15 | kergoth | there we go, shepherd build is going again |
| 01:09.15 | _Psycho | I thought it was maybe just a 250+cache |
| 01:09.23 | _Psycho | ok well |
| 01:10.00 | kergoth | i'll need to complete the qt keyboard patch soon, since we need it for .. well most of our devices. |
| 01:10.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:10.55 | _Psycho | the same you did for the c700 ? |
| 01:10.58 | _Psycho | what is missing in it ? |
| 01:11.23 | kergoth | only a few minor things |
| 01:11.26 | kergoth | most of which dont affect us |
| 01:11.27 | kergoth | one does though |
| 01:11.34 | kergoth | it results in the right shift key not working on the c700 |
| 01:11.36 | kergoth | but left working |
| 01:11.38 | kergoth | or was it fn? |
| 01:11.40 | kergoth | one of the two |
| 01:11.48 | kergoth | no worries, wont take too long to fix |
| 01:11.52 | mickeyl | shit probably - there is only one FN key |
| 01:11.56 | kergoth | the other thing is, it doesnt handle F-keys |
| 01:11.56 | mickeyl | s/shit/shift |
| 01:12.00 | _Psycho | i think its the shift |
| 01:12.05 | kergoth | which dump not a unicode value, but a string |
| 01:12.06 | _Psycho | fn was working on mine i beleive |
| 01:12.10 | _Psycho | dont remember exactly |
| 01:12.13 | kergoth | the qt patch isnt handling string output from a key |
| 01:12.31 | kergoth | which doesnt really affect anybody right now, butg could in the future |
| 01:12.42 | _Psycho | ever checked that auto rotation feature ? |
| 01:13.07 | _Psycho | btw you still have your c700 or dynamism have it back ? |
| 01:14.31 | kergoth | dynamism wants it back, i need to find its cables and shit so i can send it back |
| 01:14.39 | _Psycho | doh ok ! |
| 01:14.39 | kergoth | autorotate never finished |
| 01:14.47 | kergoth | christ, the mmc drivers are null pointer derefing on me |
| 01:14.49 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:14.55 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:15.59 | kergoth | mickeyl: building a shepherd image for testing now |
| 01:17.05 | mickeyl | kergoth: good... i can barely keep my eyes open but i don't want to get to bed unless i'm at the console prompt ;) |
| 01:17.05 | kergoth | flashing |
| 01:19.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:19.53 | kergoth | it just booted with my kernel and rootfs |
| 01:19.58 | kergoth | i'll upload em to experimental |
| 01:19.59 | mickeyl | unbeliveable |
| 01:20.02 | mickeyl | thanks! |
| 01:20.11 | kergoth | hold, havent seen a console yet, its booting |
| 01:20.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:20.17 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 01:20.33 | mickeyl | did you alter the shepherd configurations? if so please bk push them |
| 01:20.54 | masticator | I love how all the zaurus architectures are named after dogs |
| 01:20.57 | kergoth | ahahahaha |
| 01:20.59 | kergoth | oh my |
| 01:21.00 | kergoth | ahah |
| 01:21.00 | chouimat | hi masticator |
| 01:21.05 | kergoth | mickeyl: |
| 01:21.05 | masticator | like, what the hell are they trying to tell us |
| 01:21.07 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: any idea what else could be causing this thing not to drop to a login prompt |
| 01:21.08 | kergoth | mickeyl: do me a favor |
| 01:21.15 | kergoth | mickeyl: cat output/roots/etc/inittab |
| 01:21.21 | kergoth | mickeyl: and tell me whats wrong with this picture. |
| 01:21.34 | chouimat | kergoth: shepperd? |
| 01:21.48 | kergoth | mickeyl: its setup for a devfs image but the kernel isnt devfs |
| 01:21.51 | kergoth | mickeyl: :) |
| 01:21.55 | mickeyl | aargh |
| 01:21.56 | kergoth | mickeyl: exact same problem bipolar just saw |
| 01:22.01 | kergoth | on collie |
| 01:22.02 | mickeyl | how that? |
| 01:22.08 | kergoth | so, devfs or no? |
| 01:22.08 | mickeyl | did we break Makefile |
| 01:22.13 | kergoth | who knows how the sd module would react |
| 01:22.15 | kergoth | i say no for now |
| 01:22.20 | mickeyl | okay, lets make it no |
| 01:22.21 | kergoth | once we switch to 2.4.21 we'll be fine |
| 01:22.25 | masticator | you fucking codemonkeys |
| 01:22.40 | masticator | its friday you geeks |
| 01:22.50 | mickeyl | we're making history here |
| 01:22.52 | mickeyl | :) |
| 01:22.54 | fishhead2 | SO? |
| 01:23.00 | fishhead2 | I have yet to date in my 29 yrs |
| 01:23.03 | fishhead2 | I have no life |
| 01:23.09 | TheMasterMind1 | fishhead2: shut up |
| 01:23.12 | kergoth | fishhead2: thats awfully disfunctional |
| 01:23.15 | kergoth | fishhead2: too bad we dont care |
| 01:23.29 | masticator | yeah, like even kergoth dates. |
| 01:23.31 | fishhead2 | dipshit I was responding to mickeyl |
| 01:23.33 | fishhead2 | sheesh |
| 01:23.35 | kergoth | christ, i got 5 emails today alone re: 5600 |
| 01:23.35 | masticator | hell, even chouimat dates |
| 01:23.43 | kergoth | guess i should get some experimental images uploaded |
| 01:23.59 | masticator | actually, I dont think chouimat actually "dates" |
| 01:24.04 | kergoth | heheh |
| 01:24.09 | kergoth | depends on your definition of 'date' |
| 01:24.14 | masticator | I think he slips junior high school girls roofies |
| 01:24.20 | chouimat | masticator: I read your comment |
| 01:24.25 | masticator | lol |
| 01:25.05 | masticator | ah, hello leetle girl, I am french quebecois. Would you like a candy? |
| 01:25.15 | kergoth | lol |
| 01:25.21 | _Psycho | hey that my hits sentence i use on bar ! |
| 01:25.22 | fishhead2 | stupid canuck |
| 01:25.27 | chouimat | masticator: actualy I have the choice between a 26, a 23 and a 18 .... and they all working tonight |
| 01:25.30 | _Psycho | in bar* |
| 01:25.42 | masticator | choimat: thats their ages on their ID's |
| 01:25.54 | kergoth | uh |
| 01:25.57 | chouimat | masticator: yup ... |
| 01:25.58 | kergoth | my 5500 wont turn on anymore |
| 01:26.01 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 01:26.03 | mickeyl | battery ? |
| 01:26.06 | masticator | chouimat: when you say working, is their office on a streetcorner, outside? |
| 01:26.12 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: you gotta like hold down the button and let it go a couple times |
| 01:26.13 | TheMasterMind1 | its weird |
| 01:26.13 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:26.17 | masticator | and are they wearing boots and a miniskirt? |
| 01:26.21 | chouimat | masticator: nurses |
| 01:26.21 | TheMasterMind1 | it turns over eventually |
| 01:26.28 | kergoth | its always done that though, its not going at all this time |
| 01:26.30 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:26.40 | masticator | chouimat: nurses? same shit |
| 01:27.07 | masticator | both professions involve washing your nuts |
| 01:27.07 | chouimat | actually the 26 is an intern ... she need to finish her last yer of medecine |
| 01:27.08 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm. switching the switch on the back makes the screen go white =D |
| 01:27.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: backligth bug |
| 01:27.17 | fishhead2 | chou and yuo want to play doctor right ? |
| 01:27.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: the one i fixed already but lost the tree it was in |
| 01:27.24 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'll fix it again in a few |
| 01:27.27 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: damn |
| 01:27.29 | TheMasterMind1 | losing trees sucks |
| 01:27.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: remember beattie thought he fixed that? it wasnt. |
| 01:27.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:27.40 | chouimat | fishhead2: nope ... just have a nice sugar mommy :) |
| 01:27.44 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o masticator] by ChanServ |
| 01:28.21 | kergoth | i should email spencer requesting nthe corgi/shepherd/husky service manuals |
| 01:28.28 | kergoth | even if they're in japanese, the block diagrams will prove useful |
| 01:28.29 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 01:28.33 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm too lazy to compile my own initrd without devfs so i'm just gonna sit here |
| 01:28.33 | masticator | good fucking luck |
| 01:28.40 | kergoth | masticator: they offered them once |
| 01:28.47 | kergoth | masticator: said i didnt need em at the time |
| 01:28.54 | TheMasterMind1 | !!! |
| 01:28.55 | chouimat | masticator: no more spencer? |
| 01:28.55 | masticator | well you better get them before they change their mind |
| 01:28.55 | kergoth | we'll see |
| 01:28.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: slacker |
| 01:28.57 | TheMasterMind1 | you shoulda taken them |
| 01:29.04 | masticator | chou: spencer is there |
| 01:29.04 | kergoth | masticator: k |
| 01:29.10 | kergoth | poor guy |
| 01:29.13 | kergoth | isnt he like doing everything now? |
| 01:29.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:29.13 | masticator | spencer is about all they got left, him and arnold |
| 01:29.17 | kergoth | yea |
| 01:29.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh. kernel stuff i'll work on, but my buildroot is such a mess i'm afraid to go near it |
| 01:29.41 | kergoth | mickeyl: initrd is rebuilding. i wiped everything since i couldnt remember which packages were affected by the kernel devfs flag |
| 01:29.42 | *** join/#openembedded TimRiker (~timr@216.208.38.106) |
| 01:29.47 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 01:30.12 | kergoth | hey, its almost saturday! |
| 01:30.27 | chouimat | ok I think I have of the crappy code for tonight .... |
| 01:30.32 | _Psycho | its up for tomorow ? |
| 01:30.44 | _Psycho | i mean whats up for tomorow ? |
| 01:30.51 | mickeyl | kergoth: okay. i must go to bed now. if you got a working image + zImage please upload to experimental. I'll flash tomorrow and then I will test what didn't work on my build. GOOD JOB, BTW!!! |
| 01:30.54 | *** join/#openembedded absentiaF (~chatzilla@207-237-74-35.c3-0.80w-ubr9.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 01:30.56 | masticator | its the famous Tim Riker |
| 01:31.06 | kergoth | mickeyl: alright i'll get them uploaded. night. |
| 01:31.08 | masticator | Tim: I told Craig Newell to look you up at the show |
| 01:31.10 | mickeyl | n8 |
| 01:31.17 | kergoth | _Psycho: tomorrow's the day of the week that doesnt suck! |
| 01:31.22 | _Psycho | night mickely |
| 01:31.29 | _Psycho | ibot: friday |
| 01:31.30 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 01:31.39 | _Psycho | oh yeah |
| 01:31.48 | _Psycho | but i left work early today all boss was out =p |
| 01:31.54 | kergoth | nice |
| 01:32.11 | TimRiker | masticator: it was Craig that wrote the article, yes? |
| 01:32.38 | masticator | yep |
| 01:33.22 | TimRiker | some odd quotes about the wince stuff. it's not the way I remember the conversation. Otherwise the article was great. Tell him thanx. ;-) |
| 01:34.25 | masticator | he says youre welcome |
| 01:34.52 | masticator | well, OLS is an odd show |
| 01:35.10 | masticator | he interviewed mad dog, he got six pages single spaced out of it |
| 01:35.21 | masticator | hasnt written it up yet |
| 01:35.31 | _Psycho | what magazine ? |
| 01:35.35 | masticator | eweek |
| 01:35.37 | TimRiker | heh. maddog and I had a long conversation right after my talk. |
| 01:35.50 | masticator | I love mad dog |
| 01:35.51 | absentiaF | hey masticator ... |
| 01:35.55 | _Psycho | you have a link ? |
| 01:36.15 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot search google for eweek |
| 01:36.31 | TheMasterMind1 | eweek.com i'm guessing |
| 01:36.35 | TimRiker | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1201896,00.asp |
| 01:36.40 | _Psycho | i mean a link for the article |
| 01:36.41 | _Psycho | thanks tim |
| 01:37.32 | masticator | craig is eweek's new linux reporter |
| 01:37.38 | masticator | he is very new to linux |
| 01:37.47 | masticator | I'm trying to break him in |
| 01:37.51 | masticator | with a crash course |
| 01:38.14 | absentiaF | where is craig ? |
| 01:38.19 | masticator | nyc |
| 01:38.28 | absentiaF | nick.... on here? |
| 01:38.32 | absentiaF | masticator |
| 01:38.36 | absentiaF | : you in nyc? |
| 01:38.40 | masticator | no he isnt on IRC |
| 01:38.45 | absentiaF | ah |
| 01:38.46 | masticator | I'm close to nyc |
| 01:38.49 | _Psycho | damn its in ottawa ? im like 1h30 from there is hjould go |
| 01:38.54 | _Psycho | is that show over ? |
| 01:38.56 | absentiaF | philly |
| 01:39.04 | _Psycho | oh |
| 01:39.06 | TimRiker | masticator == ? |
| 01:39.24 | masticator | Jason |
| 01:39.34 | TimRiker | _Psycho: one more day |
| 01:39.48 | _Psycho | interresting i might go tomorow afternoon |
| 01:39.52 | _Psycho | you there ? |
| 01:40.02 | masticator | nobody to pay for it |
| 01:40.06 | masticator | and I am VERY busy |
| 01:40.14 | masticator | working on the stuff we have talked about in the past |
| 01:40.30 | masticator | I'm not going to linuxworld either |
| 01:40.35 | TimRikerOLS | hmm. no time and no money. sounds like you are a student or something. ;-) |
| 01:40.41 | absentiaF | ha |
| 01:40.45 | masticator | no just unemployed |
| 01:40.47 | absentiaF | I have no time and no money |
| 01:40.51 | absentiaF | my excuse is a wife. |
| 01:40.52 | masticator | basically taking the summer off |
| 01:41.05 | masticator | theres a lot of shit I am involved with at the moment |
| 01:41.07 | _Psycho | Tim, if i go tomorow, i go salute you :) Of course i dont speak english much anyway |
| 01:41.15 | masticator | hopeufflly will have good news for everyone in a few weeks. |
| 01:41.20 | masticator | its looking very good though. |
| 01:41.23 | TheMasterMind1 | absentiaF: xchat |
| 01:41.26 | TheMasterMind1 | absentiaF: and kergoth uses irssi |
| 01:41.45 | absentiaF | xchat? |
| 01:41.52 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 01:42.04 | absentiaF | I normally use ircii (epic) via screen, from a friend's unix.. but the site was down today. |
| 01:42.06 | TimRikerOLS | ~xchat |
| 01:42.14 | absentiaF | so I decided to try new thinbgs... gonna try trillian |
| 01:42.17 | kergoth | TimRikerOLS: very true (theory) |
| 01:42.17 | masticator | the writing stuff alone is taking up a lot of my time |
| 01:42.22 | absentiaF | I keep hearing 'bout it. |
| 01:42.34 | masticator | evaluating different server hardware stuff for Linux Mag |
| 01:42.46 | TimRikerOLS | ~xchat is an IRC client for unix and windows at http://www.xchat.com/ |
| 01:42.47 | | okay, TimRikerOLS |
| 01:43.00 | TheMasterMind1 | absentiaF: gaim > trillian |
| 01:43.05 | absentiaF | ah |
| 01:43.07 | masticator | so tim did you make the most of your trip by buying cheap booze at LCBO? |
| 01:43.10 | absentiaF | I use gaim myself. |
| 01:43.28 | masticator | they got some nice shit at that store |
| 01:43.33 | absentiaF | tim: when themastermind talks, chatzilla beeps and gives me xchat info in another window |
| 01:44.02 | TheMasterMind1 | thats interesting |
| 01:44.08 | masticator | I love going to LCBO |
| 01:44.45 | masticator | that Vintages LCBO outlet in ottawa rocks |
| 01:44.53 | masticator | some of the best wine and booze prices I have ever seen |
| 01:45.08 | masticator | mormons |
| 01:45.42 | masticator | well, they also got cuban cigars cheap |
| 01:46.08 | _Psycho | nice article overall |
| 01:46.10 | masticator | but the best stuff is the canadian whiskey and the icewine |
| 01:46.26 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ahhaa |
| 01:46.30 | TheMasterMind1 | gimme a login prompt you piece of shit! |
| 01:46.32 | masticator | you can get like 21 year old canadian whiskey for like 20 bucks a bottle |
| 01:46.33 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i hit cancel again |
| 01:46.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: this time it turned on.. after 2 minutes of sitting there doing nothing |
| 01:46.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: weird. |
| 01:46.47 | masticator | I brought back a case of stuff last time I went |
| 01:46.51 | masticator | and 2 boxes of cuban cigars |
| 01:47.15 | masticator | they got good porn in canada too |
| 01:47.26 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 01:47.27 | _Psycho | montreal own for strip clubs |
| 01:47.32 | masticator | those nasty french mags |
| 01:47.35 | _Psycho | iff you have nothing to do saturday night tim ! |
| 01:47.46 | masticator | I like that strip club in the market in ottawa |
| 01:47.51 | _Psycho | Ill show you some spot around =p |
| 01:47.51 | masticator | right next to the sushi place |
| 01:48.21 | masticator | kergoth: next year we gotta all hang out there |
| 01:48.24 | masticator | it will be a blast |
| 01:48.43 | masticator | we should do the first OE syposium there |
| 01:48.49 | TimRikerOLS | _Psycho: I play bzflag. is there anything else? ;-) |
| 01:49.16 | _Psycho | well hmmm ! |
| 01:49.53 | absentiaF | ah |
| 01:49.58 | absentiaF | I need to get a 75 |
| 01:50.28 | _Psycho | ibot: bzflag |
| 01:50.28 | | extra, extra, read all about it, bzflag is mailto:Tim@Rikers.org or the former CTO of Embedix, Inc. (Lineo) and maintainer of the 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (linux, irix, win32, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming |
| 01:50.30 | absentiaF | 0 |
| 01:51.03 | absentiaF | midimaze |
| 01:52.03 | masticator | if we could only get SCO into playing bzflag instead of suing people |
| 01:52.14 | masticator | mormons dont know how to blow off steam |
| 01:52.17 | absentiaF | slim chance |
| 01:52.32 | kergoth | TimRikerOLS: yeah, onlyi took me like 2 months to get it done.. now i kinda miss it |
| 01:52.37 | kergoth | TimRikerOLS: not having net was a little vacation from projects |
| 01:52.39 | kergoth | TimRikerOLS: :) |
| 01:52.51 | absentiaF | ? |
| 01:52.51 | TimRikerOLS | masticator: heh. you should email them and suggest it. |
| 01:52.56 | absentiaF | updated feed? |
| 01:53.20 | masticator | thats how we should settle it |
| 01:53.26 | masticator | instead of a lawsuit |
| 01:53.26 | fishhead2 | no |
| 01:53.30 | masticator | lets have a huge lan party |
| 01:53.38 | masticator | playing bzflag |
| 01:53.38 | fishhead2 | whagt we should do is get a real tank and run over sco's headquarters |
| 01:53.52 | masticator | team IBM, team SCO and team Linux |
| 01:54.05 | fishhead2 | and masterbate with insane intensity as we hear the sound of people screaming as we crush their skulls! |
| 01:54.06 | masticator | I figure we have the advantage |
| 01:54.30 | absentiaF | do IP while IP lasts |
| 01:54.46 | fishhead2 | nothing wrong with IP |
| 01:54.50 | fishhead2 | but they are full of shit on this |
| 01:55.00 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: so how come your 5500 boots |
| 01:55.01 | absentiaF | no |
| 01:55.03 | absentiaF | not them |
| 01:55.05 | absentiaF | us.. the littleguys |
| 01:55.14 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hell if i know |
| 01:55.15 | absentiaF | get some IP of your own.. and fuck with them back |
| 01:55.17 | absentiaF | that's what I"m doing. |
| 01:55.21 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'm working on mickeyl's c750 images |
| 01:55.28 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: then i'll rebuild a collie image and seew hats up |
| 01:55.32 | fishhead2 | absent go for it |
| 01:55.46 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh.. but he's asleep. and i'm awake.. |
| 01:55.54 | absentiaF | I was gonna get an injunction against enron until they decided to weasel out... heheh |
| 01:56.30 | masticator | I want Darryl to end up like Odai and Qusay |
| 01:56.42 | fishhead2 | that was cool btw |
| 01:56.42 | TheMasterMind1 | masticator: rofl |
| 01:56.48 | fishhead2 | I would seriously love to go their graves |
| 01:56.52 | fishhead2 | AND PISS ON THEM |
| 01:57.05 | absentiaF | I'm glad they're being embalmed |
| 01:57.08 | absentiaF | not being buried before snset |
| 01:57.14 | absentiaF | hope they're buried facting thw west |
| 01:57.19 | absentiaF | between two women |
| 01:57.22 | absentiaF | face down |
| 01:57.25 | masticator | its a horrible thing to say, but seriously, nothing short of violence is gonna stop SCO |
| 01:57.27 | masticator | of that I am sure |
| 01:57.32 | fishhead2 | bury them each with a pork chop |
| 01:57.37 | absentiaF | that too |
| 01:57.57 | absentiaF | put what's left of their hands onwhat's left of their genitals... that are wrapped in bacon |
| 01:58.00 | masticator | they should call some stealth fighters out of nevada and send em on a fire mission to orem |
| 01:58.08 | masticator | drop a few 2000lb LGBs |
| 01:58.10 | absentiaF | steal fighters are at holoman.. |
| 01:58.11 | absentiaF | new mexico |
| 01:58.16 | fishhead2 | absent I agree |
| 01:58.20 | masticator | close enough |
| 01:58.32 | fishhead2 | I can't believe morons on this planet can make excuses for why we shouldn't have killed them |
| 01:58.39 | absentiaF | santa fe --> wall st --> times square.... |
| 01:58.42 | absentiaF | crazy moves. |
| 01:58.49 | absentiaF | um |
| 01:58.50 | masticator | new mexico? I thought the base was on the NTS |
| 01:58.51 | absentiaF | who |
| 01:58.56 | absentiaF | sco or (muslim) fanatics? |
| 01:59.03 | fishhead2 | the UN |
| 01:59.03 | absentiaF | nts? |
| 01:59.05 | fishhead2 | UNITED NAZI's |
| 01:59.09 | absentiaF | un = useless |
| 01:59.22 | masticator | I know the B2s are in missouri or something |
| 01:59.30 | absentiaF | yes |
| 01:59.37 | absentiaF | whiteman ? |
| 01:59.42 | masticator | yeah |
| 01:59.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: clone a buildroot. use it. |
| 01:59.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: heheh |
| 02:00.05 | kergoth | i miss the opteron |
| 02:00.06 | kergoth | *sniff* |
| 02:00.15 | masticator | yeah well, holloman is only a short flight to orem |
| 02:00.21 | absentiaF | kergoth: you'll probably be happy to know that I trackd down each of the things that was buggin' freebsd.. and fixed;m. all without whining and/or asking anyone. |
| 02:00.28 | masticator | take those bastards out |
| 02:00.31 | kergoth | absentiaF: nice |
| 02:00.31 | absentiaF | mast: yup |
| 02:00.35 | masticator | wouldnt now what hit em |
| 02:00.49 | absentiaF | freebsd 5.1 installed and didn't get the host a hostname! |
| 02:00.54 | absentiaF | that made many things upset |
| 02:00.57 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: k glibc's done, its doing all the little apps & libs now. shouldnt be long. then i'll mess with collie |
| 02:01.11 | absentiaF | no sound device.. that mande things lag.. had to compile a new kernel to enable that. lame. |
| 02:01.16 | masticator | http://www.whiteman.af.mil/ |
| 02:01.20 | absentiaF | yup |
| 02:01.26 | absentiaF | whiteman |
| 02:01.58 | masticator | thats missouri right |
| 02:02.07 | absentiaF | yup |
| 02:02.26 | absentiaF | go to photogallery from the whiteman link |
| 02:02.48 | absentiaF | the best shot is #2.. straight on |
| 02:03.08 | absentiaF | anyone see the pic "taliboom" ? |
| 02:03.23 | absentiaF | airstrike on the russian apc? |
| 02:03.29 | masticator | I'm gonna email the holloman AFB commander and ask him if a pair of F-117's can make a pit stop in orem |
| 02:03.42 | masticator | lol we should publish it on slashdot |
| 02:03.45 | masticator | "dear sir.." |
| 02:04.19 | absentiaF | the last pic is awesome two.. with 2 117s |
| 02:05.30 | masticator | whats taliboom |
| 02:06.06 | absentiaF | a hispeed sequence of pics of an apc with like a dozen taliban fighters riding on the top |
| 02:06.14 | absentiaF | missile comes in, goes boom, bodies.. parts.. flying all over. |
| 02:06.14 | masticator | cool |
| 02:06.21 | masticator | I gotta see that |
| 02:06.38 | absentiaF | gomma sec.... |
| 02:08.25 | absentiaF | ok got it |
| 02:09.17 | absentiaF | http://users.cihost.com/ata/aircraft/stealth1.jpg |
| 02:09.19 | absentiaF | for orem |
| 02:09.38 | absentiaF | http://users.cihost.com/ata/aircraft/stealth3.jpg |
| 02:09.54 | absentiaF | h0 ... holoman |
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| 02:10.22 | masticator | what the hell happend to kazaa lite |
| 02:10.29 | masticator | I cant find a place to download it |
| 02:11.27 | absentiaF | mas: are you in aol im ? |
| 02:12.01 | absentiaF | tryin' to figure out how to get thisfile to you |
| 02:12.11 | *** join/#openembedded Twiun[aw1y] (~twiun@adorphuye.com) |
| 02:15.35 | absentiaF | anyone know how to send a file with chatzilla ? |
| 02:15.51 | treke|home | first you install irssi |
| 02:16.00 | absentiaF | what's ircsii ? |
| 02:16.05 | absentiaF | sounds like a police secret police |
| 02:16.07 | treke|home | absentiaF: try dcc send nick file |
| 02:16.10 | *** join/#openembedded effy-kun (~none@210.196.84.192) |
| 02:16.11 | absentiaF | or east german |
| 02:16.14 | absentiaF | treke: tried |
| 02:16.23 | absentiaF | chatzilla passed it clear through. |
| 02:16.53 | absentiaF | I'll do a make install of epic4 on here. |
| 02:17.12 | treke|home | it may not support it |
| 02:17.24 | absentiaF | ya, I don't see file transfer in any of the menus |
| 02:17.26 | absentiaF | oh well. |
| 02:17.59 | treke|home | it doesnt |
| 02:18.11 | absentiaF | doesn't matter |
| 02:18.20 | absentiaF | I had already decided this was the LAST time I was gonna use chatzilla. |
| 02:18.34 | absentiaF | ok, epic installed. |
| 02:18.56 | masticator | absentia: jhperlow on aim |
| 02:19.07 | absentiaF | mast: ok, thought so. |
| 02:19.08 | treke|home | it had very few redeeming values |
| 02:19.31 | absentiaF | do you want it via here or there? |
| 02:20.00 | absentiaF | I notied the freebsd gaim has a little face image for you in the buddy list. |
| 02:20.36 | treke|home | gaim everywhere does that |
| 02:20.45 | absentiaF | ya, but how do you set that image |
| 02:20.52 | absentiaF | only two people seem to have the images.. in my list |
| 02:21.06 | absentiaF | oh, start talking about davy crocket... m54.... |
| 02:21.13 | masticator | http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=1098668 |
| 02:21.14 | absentiaF | and mention a few top airforce bases |
| 02:21.15 | masticator | thats me |
| 02:21.16 | absentiaF | you'll get noticed. |
| 02:21.33 | absentiaF | member login |
| 02:21.37 | treke|home | absentiaF: tools/accounts/modify |
| 02:21.43 | treke|home | And choose a buddy icon file |
| 02:21.46 | absentiaF | k |
| 02:22.15 | absentiaF | ah |
| 02:22.24 | masticator | http://forums.egullet.com/uploads/post-5-1055122416.jpg |
| 02:22.25 | absentiaF | I have a screen capture of my MS mouse being blocked by zonealarm |
| 02:22.29 | absentiaF | when it tried to access MS... |
| 02:22.35 | masticator | not sure this aol transfer is working |
| 02:22.38 | absentiaF | 30 minutes tothe second after you install the mouse... it tries to send info. |
| 02:22.41 | absentiaF | ok |
| 02:22.44 | absentiaF | that was from gaim. |
| 02:23.05 | masticator | aol transfers crap out |
| 02:23.12 | masticator | the new MSN 6 transfers good |
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| 02:24.38 | absentiaF | got an email address? |
| 02:24.43 | masticator | yeah |
| 02:24.53 | masticator | perlow@hotmail.com |
| 02:25.08 | absentiaF | spam coming |
| 02:25.25 | masticator | those must be hard pics to get |
| 02:25.39 | masticator | the military doesnt friggin release things like that |
| 02:26.01 | absentiaF | like what ? |
| 02:26.14 | absentiaF | you got an xfer? |
| 02:26.15 | masticator | like, picks of bad guys being blown to bits like that |
| 02:26.25 | absentiaF | ah |
| 02:26.26 | absentiaF | ya |
| 02:26.29 | absentiaF | ok, mail sent. |
| 02:28.47 | masticator | I want a picture of an F-117 doing a ground attack on SCO HQ |
| 02:28.58 | masticator | somebody must be good with Gimp or photoshop here |
| 02:29.09 | absentiaF | look for mpgs of cluster bomb drops |
| 02:29.13 | absentiaF | it's pretty impressive. |
| 02:29.23 | absentiaF | with a little movie magic, you could drop in an sco building or two |
| 02:29.35 | masticator | I saw a video of the moab test |
| 02:29.40 | masticator | that was impressive |
| 02:29.58 | absentiaF | wanna see a 4ft nook? |
| 02:30.00 | absentiaF | moab was lame. |
| 02:30.15 | masticator | that would be cool |
| 02:30.36 | masticator | durandal attacks are cool |
| 02:30.50 | masticator | but clusters look the most visually impressive, I agree |
| 02:30.52 | masticator | or FAE |
| 02:31.03 | absentiaF | ya |
| 02:31.09 | kergoth | ah much better |
| 02:31.10 | absentiaF | fae is good. |
| 02:31.17 | masticator | I'm a flightsim freak |
| 02:31.17 | kergoth | got the 5500 using nfsroot over usb-ether |
| 02:31.22 | masticator | but I havent played a decent one in years |
| 02:31.38 | absentiaF | ok |
| 02:31.40 | absentiaF | two more mail sent |
| 02:31.43 | masticator | they should redo the stealth sim |
| 02:31.43 | absentiaF | andthat's tech from the 60s |
| 02:32.05 | masticator | I used to love playing falcon 4 |
| 02:32.14 | masticator | falcon 3 was really good too |
| 02:32.21 | masticator | once it had all the patches |
| 02:32.26 | masticator | and you had the boot disk just right |
| 02:32.38 | masticator | the current crop of sims just suck balls |
| 02:32.50 | absentiaF | interesting |
| 02:33.01 | absentiaF | the pyqt on freebsd seems to have some sort of alpha blending capability |
| 02:33.06 | absentiaF | whereas the one on the sun didn't seem to have that. |
| 02:33.22 | absentiaF | icons for my mahjong game are coming along quite nicely. |
| 02:35.06 | absentiaF | my type of sim is alllied power.. wow! I forgot the name of that game... .... neverwinter nights, etc. |
| 02:35.21 | absentiaF | sudden strike |
| 02:37.22 | masticator | yeah I really dont dig the strategic sims |
| 02:37.32 | masticator | I like first person military sims |
| 02:37.41 | masticator | I used to love playing M1 Tank Platoon |
| 02:37.45 | masticator | that was a cool game |
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| 02:38.52 | absentiaF | 1942? |
| 02:41.15 | masticator | microprose |
| 02:41.21 | masticator | that company made cool sims |
| 02:41.24 | masticator | long gone now |
| 02:42.10 | absentia | I remember the company |
| 02:44.04 | W8TVI | I like Janes Longbow 2 |
| 02:44.10 | masticator | that was good too |
| 02:44.19 | masticator | hard game |
| 02:44.22 | masticator | really hard game |
| 02:44.34 | masticator | the controls on that sucker were really tough |
| 02:44.38 | masticator | friggin hard to fly |
| 02:44.40 | W8TVI | Sh*t! we're hit! |
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| 02:44.57 | W8TVI | I'd hear that alot |
| 02:46.09 | absentia | isn't genuity going away? |
| 02:46.10 | W8TVI | but I learned how to miss getting hit with abot half of them.. move fast and low and drop fast just before the SAM would be close to hitting |
| 02:46.21 | treke|home | absentia: dunno |
| 02:46.53 | W8TVI | I like FS2K2 |
| 02:47.02 | absentia | ? |
| 02:47.23 | W8TVI | Flight Sim 2002 |
| 02:47.31 | absentia | ah |
| 02:48.06 | W8TVI | SR71 is cool |
| 02:48.12 | absentia | damn |
| 02:48.12 | masticator | damn is nobody making good combat sims now? |
| 02:48.18 | absentia | 1 or 2 updates on killefiz and then BEWM |
| 02:48.28 | treke|home | masticator: They require too much thought |
| 02:48.31 | absentia | sudden strike allied power |
| 02:48.33 | absentia | :-) |
| 02:48.48 | treke|home | masticator: you cant just move the mouse and click the button to kill people |
| 02:49.07 | masticator | I havent bought a game in years |
| 02:49.09 | absentia | hey |
| 02:49.14 | masticator | I am jonesing for a serious combat flight sim |
| 02:49.24 | absentia | does killezifiz have a search option to show files added in the last X days? |
| 02:49.26 | masticator | I wanna drop some friggin bombs man |
| 02:49.38 | absentia | if you don't catch something on the front page, it seems you can't list it by date. |
| 02:49.46 | absentia | I have tons of games |
| 02:49.57 | absentia | I just can't play any of'm |
| 02:49.57 | absentia | have a kickin' video card too! |
| 02:50.12 | absentia | ati radeon 9800 pro.. bought it last year |
| 02:50.39 | absentia | you know, the person who thinks that a nick list is needed on the screen in opie irc... is insane. |
| 02:50.41 | W8TVI | I've got a GeForce4 MX420 |
| 02:51.03 | treke|home | just close it |
| 02:51.39 | absentia | ah, flipflap picked itup |
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| 02:53.37 | treke|home | absentia: until this week it's been pretty much unmaintainted |
| 02:53.49 | treke|home | talk to flipflip if you have requests, he's doing some work on it |
| 02:53.50 | W8TVI | absentia, a nick list that you can hide is needed |
| 02:54.14 | W8TVI | like zic haas |
| 02:54.22 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: what was your problem with mm2? |
| 02:54.48 | kergoth | chouimat was having keyboard issues |
| 02:54.51 | kergoth | dunno what though |
| 02:55.00 | treke|home | It wont boot on my box :) |
| 02:55.52 | W8TVI | on 0.9.9 half the time the icons dont show up it the main screen |
| 02:56.15 | treke|home | seems to be related to the launcher rescanning |
| 02:56.22 | W8TVI | mine is like that right now |
| 02:56.36 | absentia | why? |
| 02:56.41 | absentia | what does a nick list ever give you ? |
| 02:56.52 | absentia | other than lost screen space and unneeded complexity? |
| 02:57.06 | kergoth | agreed |
| 02:57.09 | treke|home | absentia: A list of people who are around and a convenient way to start a query? |
| 02:57.14 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:57.26 | absentia | query is /query nick |
| 02:57.31 | absentia | and a list of users is /list #chan |
| 02:57.38 | kergoth | absentia: not all pdas have hardware keyboards |
| 02:57.44 | W8TVI | there... it looked for documents... they showed back up... then when the finished they disappered again |
| 02:57.55 | kergoth | absentia: so it does make a certain amount of sense in that environment |
| 02:57.58 | absentia | kergoth: speaking of which |
| 02:58.01 | masticator | cool falcon V is coming out |
| 02:58.06 | absentia | I am thinking about making a new popup keyboard.. |
| 02:58.06 | W8TVI | absentia, have you used zic? |
| 02:58.14 | chouimat | treke|home: the key seems to lag and/or repeat |
| 02:58.28 | absentia | I tried the one with the squiggles... but I just want one with larger keys. |
| 02:58.31 | treke|home | It should be there when you need it, but should easily be hidable most of the time |
| 02:58.32 | kergoth | i've used zic, but i dont need a nick list using a Z |
| 02:58.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:58.34 | absentia | ya, I use zic from the c700 |
| 02:58.36 | absentia | absentiaZ |
| 02:59.03 | W8TVI | the nicklist should be there, but hiden by defualt |
| 02:59.04 | absentia | I crashed my c700 .. into rebooting... |
| 02:59.08 | absentia | while using zic last time |
| 02:59.09 | treke|home | agreed |
| 02:59.20 | absentia | I mean, a tab of the nicks |
| 02:59.22 | absentia | sure.. |
| 02:59.25 | absentia | but not a split! |
| 02:59.48 | W8TVI | then make a tab that shows the nicks... |
| 03:01.04 | W8TVI | me wouldn't want to use any of absentia's programs... |
| 03:01.10 | W8TVI | d'oh! |
| 03:01.52 | absentia | heheh |
| 03:01.58 | absentia | few people do |
| 03:02.19 | W8TVI | what have you made? |
| 03:02.45 | absentia | nothing released intentionally. |
| 03:02.53 | absentia | er, inflicted upon the masses... intentionally. |
| 03:03.02 | absentia | kevin mitnick stole some of my files. |
| 03:03.10 | absentia | ever hear of a program called tsunami ? |
| 03:04.03 | W8TVI | kevin mitnick stole your brain :P |
| 03:04.14 | absentia | I'm a sysadmin |
| 03:04.27 | absentia | I mostly write programs to provide functionality to systems... for systems stuff |
| 03:04.41 | absentia | many times I write programs to do what other programs lack.. or fix bugs in things. |
| 03:04.53 | absentia | I don't normally write userland apps. |
| 03:05.30 | W8TVI | the most "programing" i've done is with eather DOS bat files, or mirc script |
| 03:05.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: compiled collie yet? |
| 03:06.05 | W8TVI | never relased my script... never got it just the way I wanted it... |
| 03:06.10 | absentia | I wrote irc bots from '89 through '91 or so. |
| 03:06.16 | absentia | (in perl) |
| 03:06.19 | absentia | (well, and sh) |
| 03:06.34 | W8TVI | I did make a mirc bot ontop of my sript |
| 03:06.48 | W8TVI | mostly used it on my own channel |
| 03:08.36 | W8TVI | i have put out alot of fires on windows systems, and got paid for it :) |
| 03:09.30 | absentia | windows deserves to be burned |
| 03:09.34 | TheMasterMind1 | damn, did kergoth leave? |
| 03:09.43 | absentia | anyway, I'll release a mahjong game for the c700 |
| 03:10.46 | kergoth | nah i'm here, working on something |
| 03:12.45 | absentia | hmmm |
| 03:12.48 | absentia | how can I get these files... |
| 03:16.14 | absentia | is sharp ever gonna come out with a new rom for the c700 ? |
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| 03:29.19 | effy-kun | absentia: I doubt it heh |
| 03:30.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: k |
| 03:32.54 | kergoth | alright, shepherd minimal images are working pretty well |
| 03:35.58 | fishhead- | [23:34] --- You are now known as limp_bizkit |
| 03:35.58 | fishhead- | [23:34] <limp_bizkit> I DID IT ALL FOR CANOOKIE! |
| 03:35.58 | fishhead- | [23:34] <limp_bizkit> EH? |
| 03:35.58 | fishhead- | [23:34] <limp_bizkit> CANOOKEI1 |
| 03:35.58 | fishhead- | [23:34] <limp_bizkit> EH? |
| 03:36.02 | fishhead- | [23:34] <limp_bizkit> SO YOU TAKE THAT COOKIE, AND KICK THAT YANKEE'S ASS |
| 03:36.48 | treke|home | fishhead-: fuck off |
| 03:37.08 | bipolar | lol |
| 03:37.21 | bipolar | fishhead-: you are one messed up dude... heh |
| 03:37.29 | fishhead- | why don't you take the cock out of your ass treke |
| 03:37.34 | fishhead- | and learn to have a sense of humor |
| 03:37.43 | treke|home | fishhead-: I have a sense of humor |
| 03:37.55 | fishhead- | yeah so did your folks |
| 03:38.16 | bipolar | being at work at 11:40Pm... I *must* have a sense of humor... :p |
| 03:38.30 | treke|home | bipolar: no, that's just lack of brains :) |
| 03:38.42 | fishhead- | http://www.cygnal.com/http://www.cygnal.com/ |
| 03:38.46 | fishhead- | mmm 8051 :) |
| 03:40.08 | bipolar | treke|home: yeah... could be. :) |
| 03:40.18 | kergoth | fishhead-: stop spamming the channel. |
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| 03:41.53 | TMM1 | hi |
| 03:41.59 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o TheMasterMind1] by ChanServ |
| 03:42.00 | treke|home | evening tmm1 |
| 03:42.01 | TheMasterMind1 | what'd i miss |
| 03:42.20 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: you missed 2.6.0-test1-mm2 fail miserably for me :) |
| 03:42.25 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 03:42.32 | TheMasterMind1 | i have yet to try it |
| 03:42.32 | fishhead- | how is 2.6 pre so far ? |
| 03:42.34 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe i won't |
| 03:42.44 | TheMasterMind1 | i still can't get vmware or cdburning to work |
| 03:42.51 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: but stock test1 is working fine on this box |
| 03:42.57 | TheMasterMind1 | unfortunately, whenever i boot back to 2.4 i find the mouse too slow |
| 03:43.04 | absentia | re |
| 03:43.12 | absentia | http://www.randi.org/jr/072503.html |
| 03:43.25 | TheMasterMind1 | treke|home: maybe it was something in mm1 that broke vmware graphics |
| 03:43.42 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: work on collie any? |
| 03:43.53 | fishhead- | mind well yeah |
| 03:44.17 | fishhead- | I am a hardware tech, not a coder |
| 03:44.25 | absentia | .c |
| 03:44.33 | fishhead- | but I know enough about the kernel that I could see all the 2.6 changes seriously breaking somethign liek vmware |
| 03:44.42 | fishhead- | I am going to learn c |
| 03:44.49 | TheMasterMind1 | good for you |
| 03:44.51 | fishhead- | but for microcontrollers only I have no desire to do pc coding |
| 03:45.04 | fishhead- | I love x86 I love pc's but I have no desire to make large applications |
| 03:45.19 | fishhead- | I rather be coding for 8051's or avr's to run a a/c unit etc |
| 03:47.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm bored |
| 03:48.37 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: building it |
| 03:48.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: fresh gcc3.3 minimal collie initrd for 2.4.21 testing |
| 03:49.42 | treke|home | kergoth: hehe. this is so ugly :p |
| 03:50.23 | kergoth | what is? |
| 03:50.53 | treke|home | I've been gutting opie-handwriting and stuffing a test of my idea into it. It looks like utter ass :) |
| 03:51.05 | kergoth | ahh |
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| 03:52.06 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: awesome |
| 03:52.53 | absentia | uh huh |
| 03:53.01 | treke|home | good |
| 03:53.39 | W8TVI | aqpkg crashed... |
| 03:53.50 | W8TVI | maybe I need to drop to the cli? |
| 03:54.33 | absentia | always does for m |
| 03:54.41 | absentia | me.. never worked once |
| 03:56.15 | W8TVI | works from the cli! |
| 03:56.16 | W8TVI | heh |
| 03:57.56 | TheMasterMind1 | bah. i wish madwifi would hurry up and release their damn drivers |
| 03:58.30 | absentia | grrr |
| 03:58.30 | treke|home | madwifi? |
| 03:58.53 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 03:59.17 | TheMasterMind1 | drivers for a[/b[/g]] wifi cards |
| 03:59.17 | absentia | ssh sally.easte.net date |
| 03:59.30 | TheMasterMind1 | including my minipci a/b wifi card in my laptop |
| 03:59.33 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: url? |
| 03:59.39 | TheMasterMind1 | sf.net/projects/madwifi |
| 03:59.58 | TheMasterMind1 | uses a binary only module to access core stuff |
| 04:00.23 | kergoth | ibot: botmail for mickeyl: uploaded minimal image and kernel for shepherd, and pushed fixes. |
| 04:00.33 | treke|home | ah |
| 04:00.37 | treke|home | screw binary only |
| 04:00.47 | TheMasterMind1 | anyway, 11b doesn't work for my card. they fixed the bug two months ago but insist on doing "in-house testing" before releasing it |
| 04:01.00 | TheMasterMind1 | treke|home: its better than no support |
| 04:01.06 | treke|home | barely |
| 04:01.11 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:01.15 | TheMasterMind1 | its not all binary only |
| 04:01.26 | TheMasterMind1 | only the part that the fcc won't let them opensource |
| 04:02.39 | W8TVI | er... the FCC doesn't care what kinda drivers some one uses for some 802.11? card |
| 04:02.50 | treke|home | W8TVI: yes they do |
| 04:03.16 | W8TVI | sence when? |
| 04:04.02 | W8TVI | all the FCC cares about is the RF that the ard puts out. |
| 04:06.35 | W8TVI | if i wanted to (and the money to get it), I could hook a 100w amp to my 802.11b card and use it... legally |
| 04:07.47 | W8TVI | I could reclassify it to a part 97 device |
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| 04:08.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i'd argue, but you're a ham and i'm clueless |
| 04:09.00 | W8TVI | heh... good idea |
| 04:09.25 | W8TVI | channels 1 - 6 are in the 2.4Ghz ham radio band |
| 04:10.31 | W8TVI | and ham radio ops have primary allocation on 2.4GHz to 2.45Ghz |
| 04:10.53 | W8TVI | http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/01/10/3/?nc=1 |
| 04:12.29 | W8TVI | that tells al about it... but its a little out dated. Amateur Radio has sence been elevated to primary on 2.4Ghz to 2.402Ghz |
| 04:13.07 | TheMasterMind1 | wow. sad site: http://linux.schottelius.org/blacksheep/ |
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| 04:13.52 | W8TVI | I wish more people were doing HSMM around here... that would be cool |
| 04:14.22 | TheMasterMind1 | argh |
| 04:14.23 | TheMasterMind1 | my stupid dsl |
| 04:14.37 | bipolar | any perl junkies in here? |
| 04:14.45 | W8TVI | I wish I has DLS to comlain about.... lol |
| 04:14.45 | W8TVI | DSL |
| 04:15.05 | treke|ho1e | jeeze. one line caused all the havok |
| 04:15.31 | W8TVI | in what? |
| 04:17.18 | W8TVI | TheMasterMind1, "Linksys /Broadcom"? |
| 04:17.53 | W8TVI | if you look on the FCC website you can see that its linksys/cisco |
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| 04:19.46 | W8TVI_ | if you look on the FCC website you can see that its linksys/cisco |
| 04:23.25 | absentia | god |
| 04:23.29 | absentia | if it's not one thing, it's another. |
| 04:23.57 | absentia | where is my no code plus... |
| 04:25.21 | W8TVI_ | Dude! Where's my code? |
| 04:25.52 | absentia | bkah |
| 04:26.05 | absentia | scp won't work, so I'm reduced to ssh + cat > output |
| 04:48.11 | absentia | ok, 30 mahjon sets downloaded.. ready to code |
| 04:48.25 | W8TVI | heh |
| 04:49.40 | absentia | (other than coding) |
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| 04:51.56 | absentia | minnelli splitting with gest |
| 04:51.58 | absentia | go figure. |
| 04:54.40 | absentia | actua;;y, 31MB of mahjong tiles. |
| 04:54.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: uploading a test image now |
| 04:54.59 | absentia | 700 ? |
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| 04:59.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: uploaded. |
| 04:59.59 | kergoth | suppose i may as well do a husky build and upload that while i'm at it |
| 05:00.47 | kergoth | get anywhere with handwriting? |
| 05:01.01 | treke|ho1e | its coming along |
| 05:01.11 | kergoth | cool |
| 05:01.32 | treke|ho1e | it should do some recoginition tomororw :) |
| 05:01.38 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:01.51 | treke|ho1e | not good recognition, but it'll be a start |
| 05:02.58 | absentia | anyone have a working dns server I could use? |
| 05:07.35 | treke|ho1e | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1228 |
| 05:08.18 | absentia | f my provider |
| 05:09.39 | kergoth | treke|ho1e: hmm, anyone looked at those changes to merge them in? |
| 05:10.00 | treke|ho1e | dunno |
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| 05:42.38 | kergoth | hey mithro |
| 05:47.10 | kenb | Hi kergoth. |
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| 05:55.08 | kergoth | hey ken |
| 05:56.47 | kenb | hi |
| 05:56.53 | kenb | partially drunk @ OLS... |
| 05:56.55 | kenb | porting blast to AIX. |
| 05:57.04 | kergoth | fun |
| 05:57.08 | kergoth | hows OLS been? |
| 05:58.03 | effy-kun | kergoth: do you know much about DNS? |
| 05:59.03 | mithro | hey kergoth |
| 05:59.03 | kergoth | effy-kun: enough. why? |
| 05:59.15 | mithro | has no time at all to even play with my Z :( |
| 06:00.19 | kenb | OLS has been good. |
| 06:00.27 | effy-kun | kergoth: I'm screwing with my linux router using iptables. I've shut off all UDP access on the internet interface, and DNS will not resolve anymore from the localhost. |
| 06:00.44 | effy-kun | on the INPUT pipe |
| 06:01.04 | effy-kun | ah, I think I know the way to fix it |
| 06:01.26 | effy-kun | I need to add a "ESTABLISHED, RELATED" state clause to the iptables firewall for UDP packets |
| 06:03.48 | kenb | heh |
| 06:03.58 | kenb | you can't ESTABLISH a UDP packed |
| 06:04.06 | kenb | but ip connection tracking + RELATED should do it. |
| 06:04.26 | kenb | you should have attended Harald's Netfilter/iptables programming tutorial ;) |
| 06:04.56 | effy-kun | kenb: ah, I thought ESTABLISHED was a UDP part too, just simply referring to the fact traffic has been seen in both directions. |
| 06:05.03 | effy-kun | RELATED is the one I want, though? |
| 06:05.14 | effy-kun | http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/tutorials/blueflux/iptables-tutorial.html#AEN901 |
| 06:05.20 | effy-kun | that is the one I have been reading |
| 06:06.17 | kenb | yes. |
| 06:06.20 | kenb | RELATED |
| 06:06.44 | kenb | only TCP establishes conections. |
| 06:07.06 | kenb | crap. |
| 06:07.09 | kenb | 12 mins battery |
| 06:07.15 | kenb | guess that's a signal to goto sleep |
| 06:08.04 | effy-kun | I am correct, though, that DNS resolves over UDP? |
| 06:08.48 | kenb | yes. |
| 06:13.09 | effy-kun | okay, that worked |
| 06:14.04 | effy-kun | BTW, it's ESTABLISHED that works, not RELATED |
| 06:14.06 | effy-kun | ;) |
| 06:15.41 | effy-kun | RELATED seems to only come in to play with ICMP packets, which is another connectionless protocol |
| 06:22.47 | mithro | related == FTP data, IRC DCC connections |
| 06:23.37 | effy-kun | heh |
| 06:24.05 | effy-kun | so RELATED is actually use by ip_nat_ftp and ip_ftp_conntrack? |
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| 06:29.00 | effy-kun | damn, can't get a crack for SecureFX heh |
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| 08:43.34 | Harlekin | lo |
| 08:53.15 | bipolar | hi Harlekin |
| 08:53.44 | Harlekin | hi |
| 08:53.51 | bipolar | it's almost 5am, and I haven't been out of the office yet. :p |
| 08:53.53 | Harlekin | any idea where to get pam from in the buildroot |
| 09:02.42 | bipolar | hmmm... still can't get the ts stuff to work. |
| 09:03.00 | bipolar | at least I have a command prompt though. :) |
| 09:03.06 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 09:08.27 | bipolar | ok... one more PC to "fix" |
| 09:27.49 | bipolar | done. Time to go home... finaly. |
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| 10:20.07 | bflong | O.O < me after being awake for 24 hours straght. |
| 10:27.59 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 10:28.04 | mickeyl | 1st time a console prompt on 750 |
| 10:28.08 | Harlekin | ,) |
| 10:46.00 | mickeyl | bipolar: what does it do or doesn't ? |
| 10:49.24 | bipolar | mickeyl: it's like it doesn't exist. ts_calibrate just says: |
| 10:49.38 | bipolar | # ts_calibrate |
| 10:49.38 | bipolar | ts_open: No such file or directory |
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| 10:50.00 | bipolar | I created the device file and set the env, to no avail. |
| 10:50.27 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:50.46 | mickeyl | bipolar: please strace ts_calibrate |
| 10:51.07 | bipolar | strace not installed. :\ |
| 10:51.11 | bipolar | gotta find it. |
| 10:51.15 | mickeyl | install it :D |
| 10:54.25 | bipolar | mickeyl: done. |
| 10:54.43 | mickeyl | what is it trying to open? |
| 10:54.49 | bipolar | mickeyl: we're using devfs, so if the driver worked, it should be in /dev |
| 10:54.57 | bipolar | open("/dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENODEV (No such device) |
| 10:55.15 | mickeyl | so where is that device |
| 10:55.39 | mickeyl | seems a faulty kernel configuration or so... the device should be there if devfs is mounted |
| 10:55.59 | bipolar | none on /dev type devfs (rw) |
| 10:56.04 | bipolar | it's mounted |
| 10:56.05 | Harlekin | devfsd installed? |
| 10:56.14 | bipolar | I tried making the device file too. |
| 10:56.28 | mickeyl | mmh - you can't when devfs is running |
| 10:56.30 | bipolar | mknod /dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00 char 10 14 |
| 10:56.39 | Harlekin | dont |
| 10:56.50 | bipolar | huh? |
| 11:00.48 | tronical | bipolar: if you get ENODEV on that file then it means the kernel doesn't have the corresponding driver |
| 11:01.17 | mickeyl | yes. likely something wrong in the .config |
| 11:03.10 | bipolar | ahhh |
| 11:03.19 | bipolar | btw: Hi tronical. :) |
| 11:04.01 | tronical | hi :) |
| 11:09.33 | bipolar | I gotta get some shuteye... |
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| 12:42.59 | mickeyl | grr |
| 12:43.04 | mickeyl | boot you damn kernel |
| 12:43.10 | mickeyl | grrr |
| 12:48.27 | effy-kun | maybe you're not beating it hard enough |
| 12:49.07 | mickeyl | yeah.... |
| 12:49.53 | mickeyl | eek |
| 12:50.02 | mickeyl | SIMpad smacks back |
| 12:51.24 | mickeyl | ups |
| 12:51.30 | mickeyl | ever heard of console=ttySA; |
| 12:51.39 | mickeyl | where does this smicolon comes from grrr |
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| 13:02.14 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:02.19 | mickeyl | hi chouimat |
| 13:02.41 | chouimat | mickeyl: having with the simpad? |
| 13:02.53 | chouimat | s/having/having fun |
| 13:03.00 | mickeyl | chouimat: yeah - i tried to upgrade us to kernel 2.4.21, but it failed |
| 13:03.28 | chouimat | k ... it's seems that someone is porting 2.6.0 to the dreamcast |
| 13:03.54 | mickeyl | hah nice |
| 13:11.10 | mickeyl | ok, 2.4.19 still works *phew* |
| 13:11.25 | mickeyl | now trying 2.4.21 with proper serial console output again... |
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| 14:12.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hey |
| 14:12.22 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: here? |
| 14:12.37 | TheMasterMind1 | know what the variable it is that you set to tell tslib where the ts device is |
| 14:14.55 | mickeyl | yeah, hold on... |
| 14:15.40 | mickeyl | example |
| 14:15.40 | mickeyl | #!/bin/sh |
| 14:15.40 | mickeyl | TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/touchscreen/ucb1x00 |
| 14:15.40 | mickeyl | TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE=UCB1x00 |
| 14:15.40 | mickeyl | export TSLIB_TSDEVICE TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE |
| 14:15.44 | mickeyl | this is from SIMpad |
| 14:16.04 | mickeyl | collie has same device imho |
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| 14:40.53 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
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| 14:52.10 | mickeyl | yo |
| 14:52.12 | mickeyl | # uname -a |
| 14:52.14 | mickeyl | Linux opensimpad 2.4.21-rmk1-jpm0 #1 Sam Jul 26 16:26:27 CEST 2003 armv4l unknown |
| 15:01.57 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 15:02.09 | TheMasterMind1 | jpm? |
| 15:03.08 | mickeyl | jpm - Juergen Messerer - one of SIEMENS Switzerland |
| 15:03.21 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 15:03.43 | TheMasterMind1 | happen to know where the touchscreen code is in the collie .21 kernel? |
| 15:04.51 | mickeyl | not offhand, sorry |
| 15:05.01 | TheMasterMind1 | nm, found it |
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| 15:19.07 | TheMasterMind1 | alright, time to fuck with this TS driver |
| 15:24.36 | pb_ | sounds nasty |
| 15:25.49 | Harlekin | isnt puberty a pre-condition for that? |
| 15:27.00 | chouimat | Harlekin: :) |
| 15:27.34 | TheMasterMind1 | first step, isolate it |
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| 15:33.29 | absentia | re |
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| 16:09.19 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmm |
| 16:09.32 | TheMasterMind1 | /dev/input/event0 outputs stuff when the TS is touched |
| 16:09.55 | TheMasterMind1 | but it does so even when ucb1x00-ts isn't built into the kernel and its module isn't loaded |
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| 17:46.09 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wake up! |
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| 18:06.16 | TheMasterMind1 | what time is it in kergoth's timezone? |
| 18:07.06 | absentia | central? |
| 18:10.41 | absentia | cat /etc/reso |
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| 18:34.49 | absentia | cd /usr/ports |
| 18:34.53 | absentia | pwd |
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| 18:36.24 | absentia | Grrr. something in freebsd keeps rewriting /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:36.25 | TheMasterMind1 | while [ 1 ]; do cd `pwd`; done |
| 18:36.51 | absentia | while : ; |
| 18:37.39 | absentia | no media players work in freebsd 5.1 |
| 18:37.52 | TheMasterMind1 | use debian =P |
| 18:38.06 | absentia | you know |
| 18:38.07 | absentia | I really should |
| 18:38.11 | absentia | I have the isos here on my frebsd box |
| 18:38.18 | absentia | I think I might just wipe it and install debian |
| 18:38.26 | absentia | after I burn out the isos, that is. |
| 18:38.32 | absentia | is debian any good ? |
| 18:38.40 | TheMasterMind1 | debian owns |
| 18:38.46 | absentia | why? |
| 18:38.53 | absentia | what is owning about it ? |
| 18:39.15 | absentia | opera6 ... underfreebsd... was crashing when jpegs had illegal headers |
| 18:39.19 | absentia | can you believe that ? |
| 18:39.27 | absentia | go to a web page, kerblewm! |
| 18:39.34 | tronical | absentia: for example the fact that applying security updates is a no-brainer and can easily be done automatically by cronjob |
| 18:39.51 | absentia | ok, nice. |
| 18:40.12 | absentia | I like it better that debian will run on every piece of hardware I have access to |
| 18:40.15 | absentia | that's the only real part that I like. |
| 18:40.30 | absentia | if debian supported recording with maestro2 sound card, that would be a huge advantage over freebsd |
| 18:40.37 | absentia | also, this freebsd is running like a DOG now... so slow |
| 18:40.49 | absentia | the install didn't ask or set a hostname.. and now something keeps rewriting /etc/resolv.conf and putting in bad data. |
| 18:40.57 | absentia | this is like some sort of interim release or something. |
| 18:41.04 | absentia | it's so pathetic. |
| 18:41.13 | absentia | which deskto is better -- gnome or kde ? |
| 18:41.20 | TheMasterMind1 | gnome2 |
| 18:41.27 | absentia | why? |
| 18:41.37 | TheMasterMind1 | it looks better |
| 18:41.40 | beattie`afk | CDE |
| 18:42.38 | absentia | it takes 7+ minutes for opera to start on this freebsd |
| 18:43.07 | absentia | truss doesn't work |
| 18:44.09 | TheMasterMind1 | i need a usb mouse |
| 18:47.32 | absentia | opera just came up |
| 18:47.40 | absentia | from when I said it took 7 minutes. |
| 18:58.56 | absentia | nice |
| 18:59.06 | absentia | opera6 takes 6-7 minutes to come up |
| 18:59.19 | absentia | opera7 is instant |
| 18:59.26 | absentia | guess I'll upgrade |
| 18:59.59 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: up yet? |
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| 19:08.36 | tomimo | uh, what's the preferred way to report some slight bugs in the buildroot-oz build system etc ? |
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| 19:09.49 | TheMasterMind1 | tomimo: hmm, the bug tracking system on sourceforge i guess |
| 19:09.51 | TheMasterMind1 | whats the bug? |
| 19:11.06 | tomimo | nah, just that kernel-oz package has target dep-files, which runs mkdep with too long command-line args ... had to make a little for-loop instead |
| 19:12.37 | tomimo | another was scripts/getsource gettarfile-function (or such), which runs tar with "x" parameter (not with "xf -") and so it fails if the TAPE-variable is set |
| 19:13.11 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 19:13.12 | TheMasterMind1 | just report em |
| 19:13.20 | tomimo | ok, will do |
| 19:13.24 | TheMasterMind1 | you can pile em all up in one report |
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| 20:09.17 | nasa | Hey, anyone home? |
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| 20:24.46 | absentia | ok, opera7 *is* awesome. |
| 20:26.25 | nasa | could someone help me get my usb0 link between my z and system working? |
| 20:26.34 | absentia | me? |
| 20:26.46 | nasa | sure |
| 20:26.58 | absentia | I'm not really anexpert. |
| 20:27.01 | absentia | what have you tried ? |
| 20:27.32 | nasa | I have the link up and I can ping from my Z, but when I ping the z from my machne I get no response |
| 20:27.42 | nasa | I have checked security and it's set correclty |
| 20:28.42 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: sounds like the ucb1x00 input define is enabled when it shouldnt be. |
| 20:29.02 | absentia | nasa: not sure.. when I could ping one way, I could ping the other. |
| 20:29.21 | absentia | I do notice that the system is not good when you unplug the usb and plug it back in, I have to reboot windows... before it will work |
| 20:29.35 | absentia | and my usb is loose, so it's a nuisane to try to do usbnet. |
| 20:29.40 | absentia | I wish I could just do wifi samba... |
| 20:30.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yep, thats it. |
| 20:30.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: we enable the input layer for our keyboard, which causes ucb to automatically use the input layer |
| 20:30.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: all you have to do now is, build tslib with input layer support and update tslib.sh respectively |
| 20:30.47 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 20:31.55 | nasa | This is really odd.... |
| 20:32.39 | nasa | hey kergoth & TheMasterMind1 -- long time |
| 20:32.48 | kergoth | hey |
| 20:32.50 | kergoth | how ya been? |
| 20:33.51 | nasa | Ok, just settling into my new job |
| 20:34.19 | nasa | going to be doing a lot of travel... |
| 20:36.32 | nasa | Trying to get everything working again -- moving caused *some* computer failures.... |
| 20:36.57 | absentia | kg: any thoughts 'bout linking in the c7x0 oz stuff on oz.org? |
| 20:37.21 | kergoth | we need to revamp the download page to include device selection |
| 20:38.08 | nasa | kergoth: any reason why I can ping from my z to my system, but not the other way around? |
| 20:44.30 | Harlekin | can somebody rename ircomm in oz to ircomm0? |
| 20:44.33 | Harlekin | better here |
| 20:45.00 | kergoth | k |
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| 20:45.45 | Harlekin | would supply a diff if I would have found where it is in buildroot .-) |
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| 20:47.55 | kergoth | Harlekin: output/dev_table.txt or something |
| 20:48.11 | Harlekin | ah |
| 20:48.20 | Harlekin | kergoth: btw, prepearing switch to devfs` |
| 20:48.21 | Harlekin | ? |
| 20:49.18 | kergoth | Harlekin: using devfs on 2.4.21 for now. |
| 20:49.38 | Harlekin | k |
| 20:49.50 | Harlekin | just saw it today while updating my c700 |
| 20:49.54 | Harlekin | oz base |
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| 20:59.35 | nasa | I know I am being a nob, but why can I ping 192.168.129.200 but not ...201 (my z address...) |
| 21:16.16 | kergoth | hrmm |
| 21:17.02 | kergoth | ts_open: Success |
| 21:17.12 | kergoth | i hate it when the error is Success |
| 21:23.35 | kergoth | okay, so ts_* read events from the ucb just fine |
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| 21:23.47 | kergoth | course my digitizer is hosed so i cant test whether the #s are valid |
| 21:25.40 | andersee | kergoth: digitizer? |
| 21:26.47 | kergoth | andersee: touchscreen |
| 21:26.50 | kergoth | andersee: its cracked :) |
| 21:26.55 | kergoth | so cant test it |
| 21:27.07 | andersee | ouch. On your c750? |
| 21:27.13 | kergoth | nah, my old 5500 |
| 21:27.16 | andersee | ahh |
| 21:29.33 | Twiun | evening chaps |
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| 21:36.17 | kergoth | hey Twiun |
| 21:36.34 | Twiun | how's it going? |
| 21:39.01 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: uploading a new initrd.bin now |
| 21:39.21 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: after flashing, run ts_calibrate, then run ts_test and see if the crosshair follows the touch, and if it does, if it does smoothly. |
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| 21:43.50 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yo |
| 21:43.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: what'd you change? |
| 21:44.09 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: the one you uploaded last night kinda worked. you see any of my messages about it? |
| 21:44.32 | chouimat|busy | re |
| 21:45.47 | TheMasterMind1 | so you did |
| 21:45.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ok lemme test new builds |
| 21:46.12 | chouimat|busy | how is 2.4.21? |
| 21:46.33 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i changed the tslib bulid to use the input layer |
| 21:46.37 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 21:46.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: applied the patches schurig uses for ramses |
| 21:46.44 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: but how come, even when i made the ts stuff into a module |
| 21:46.47 | TheMasterMind1 | event0 existed |
| 21:46.55 | kergoth | dunno |
| 21:47.09 | kergoth | it existed before modprobing ucb1x00_ts? |
| 21:47.13 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 21:47.17 | kergoth | odd |
| 21:47.18 | TheMasterMind1 | and i could cat it and it showed crap |
| 21:47.23 | TheMasterMind1 | even without the module loaded |
| 21:47.46 | kergoth | theres an event iface for something else |
| 21:47.50 | kergoth | probably our keyboard driver |
| 21:48.02 | kergoth | when ts is bulit in monolithic, its event0, but event1 still exists |
| 21:48.22 | kergoth | yep, confirmed |
| 21:48.25 | kergoth | event1 is the keyboard |
| 21:48.37 | kergoth | its event0 when ts is modular |
| 21:50.18 | TheMasterMind1 | really.. thats weird |
| 21:50.25 | TheMasterMind1 | i prolly screwed something up |
| 21:51.03 | kergoth | not weird, the event input handler exists for all input devices |
| 21:51.33 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 21:51.35 | TheMasterMind1 | but when i did it |
| 21:51.38 | TheMasterMind1 | event0 not only existed |
| 21:51.41 | TheMasterMind1 | it responded to ts input |
| 21:51.45 | TheMasterMind1 | i did cat event0 |
| 21:51.48 | TheMasterMind1 | and touched the screen |
| 21:51.50 | TheMasterMind1 | and it spewed data |
| 21:52.07 | TheMasterMind1 | all this _without_ the module loaded |
| 21:52.59 | kergoth | and you didnt hit any keys or buttons? |
| 21:53.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:53.36 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 21:53.37 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 21:54.18 | TheMasterMind1 | yep just tested again |
| 21:54.22 | TheMasterMind1 | does your event0 respond to key input? |
| 21:54.45 | TheMasterMind1 | if it does i prolly screwed my build |
| 21:57.30 | kergoth | it does |
| 21:57.36 | kergoth | well, my event0 is ts |
| 21:57.40 | kergoth | because its monolithic |
| 21:57.42 | kergoth | my event1 is keyboard |
| 21:58.05 | TheMasterMind1 | monolithic = module right? |
| 21:58.23 | TheMasterMind1 | ah, crap. i gotta go |
| 21:58.27 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll be back in a bit |
| 22:00.59 | kergoth | no, monolithic is the opposite of modular |
| 22:01.02 | kergoth | k, later |
| 22:23.54 | kergoth | bleh |
| 22:24.55 | tomimo | hmm, anyone seen the following file somewhere in the buildroot: sharp_apm.h ? It seems that opie-package would need that ... |
| 22:25.11 | kergoth | it does, which is why opie depends on 'kernel' |
| 22:25.19 | kergoth | let me guess, you're trying to build opie with the 2.4.21 kernel? |
| 22:25.27 | kergoth | not going to happen, i havent made the necessary alterations |
| 22:25.29 | tomimo | :) |
| 22:25.38 | tomimo | ok, I'll belive you ... |
| 22:25.43 | tomimo | +e |
| 22:25.44 | Twiun | but the enthusiasm is appreciated :) |
| 22:25.51 | kergoth | indeed |
| 22:26.25 | tomimo | gotta try, I'd really like to get freeswan 2.0 running on top of zaurus and I think 2.4.6 is a little bit too old |
| 22:26.45 | Twiun | old? surely not? |
| 22:27.09 | tomimo | well, that's the picture I've got ... don't know if its false ... |
| 22:27.23 | tomimo | anyway, back to old kernel for now |
| 22:28.05 | Twiun | rest assured that there'll be plenty of noise whenever .21 gets buildable |
| 22:28.20 | tomimo | heh, I'm sure of it :) |
| 22:28.55 | Twiun | kergoth: yah know... this windows upgrade path I'm following is really, erm, convoluted... |
| 22:29.06 | tomimo | If I get this damn thing working with freeswan & find some even remotely usable mail-client before the end of next week, I'm _really_ happy |
| 22:29.19 | Twiun | kergoth: sshing into the vmware instance running off the raw linux partition |
| 22:33.06 | tomimo | btw: what models of usb smartmedia readers are you people using ? It seems that it ain't too easy to pick one that _really_ works with linux properly |
| 22:33.52 | Twiun | well, I haven't got a MMC reader, but my datafab CF reader works fine |
| 23:09.42 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:09.45 | kergoth | udev looks damn cool |
| 23:09.49 | absentia | udev? |
| 23:10.41 | kergoth | its a completely userspace devfs replacement |
| 23:10.55 | kergoth | that doesnt require altering apps the way devfs does |
| 23:11.00 | kergoth | uses sysfs and hotplug |
| 23:12.29 | absentia | is there anyything impressive out there in computing these days? |
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| 23:34.43 | absentia | o |
| 23:42.21 | absentia | hmmm |
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| 23:54.04 | nasa | kergoth: what am I missing? I have followed all the howto's, searched the web, etc, etc -- and still can't figure out why I can ping my computer from my z, but not the other way around ;{ |
| 23:59.56 | beattie | kergoth: is 2.4.21 in the collie oz buildroot? |
