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| 00:34.29 | noidd | damn, xine cvs has been broken for weeks now |
| 00:34.46 | treke | eh? |
| 00:34.53 | treke | I built it I think |
| 00:35.15 | noidd | cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 00:35.16 | noidd | CVS returned an error |
| 00:35.22 | noidd | i'll continue to fight with it |
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| 00:37.17 | djay | hi all |
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| 00:45.24 | treke | hrmmm |
| 00:45.31 | treke | how am I gonna stuff this into opie-settings |
| 00:46.36 | noidd | what you trtying to stuff? |
| 00:46.59 | treke | err security-settings |
| 00:47.06 | noidd | ah - gotcha |
| 00:47.19 | treke | trying to figure out how to logically lay it out with a minimum of strings changes :) |
| 00:47.45 | noidd | amen :-0 |
| 00:47.57 | treke | dont want to mess up translation |
| 00:48.17 | noidd | localization |
| 00:48.27 | noidd | i never got my head around that |
| 00:48.35 | noidd | .po files etc |
| 00:48.44 | noidd | I only speak english with competence |
| 00:48.53 | treke | same here |
| 00:49.01 | treke | I can muddle through reading spanish |
| 00:49.23 | noidd | i can muddle through Welsh |
| 00:49.35 | noidd | although in this part of the US, there is more spanish than Welsh |
| 00:49.38 | treke | but I can't speak it or listen to another speaker. Most speakers go too fast |
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| 00:53.31 | noidd | re Twiun[ou |
| 00:54.21 | treke | ugh that looks like rat crap |
| 00:56.10 | noidd | screenie! |
| 00:56.11 | noidd | :-) |
| 00:58.17 | treke | http://info.brooks.edu/~ggilbert/security-settings.png |
| 00:58.35 | noidd | tanks :-0 |
| 00:59.13 | _Psycho | look good |
| 00:59.32 | treke | duh |
| 00:59.34 | treke | idea |
| 01:00.05 | treke | _Psycho: thank you |
| 01:00.12 | treke | you gave me an idea :) |
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| 01:00.43 | _Psycho | weird ld |
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| 01:03.47 | noidd | 3spot the eq player :-) |
| 01:03.51 | noidd | heya Tim |
| 01:03.53 | noidd | how goes? |
| 01:07.11 | treke | how is OLS? |
| 01:07.21 | treke | _Psycho: Thanks you gave me a great idea :) |
| 01:09.30 | _Psycho | hmmmm |
| 01:09.34 | _Psycho | which one ? |
| 01:10.48 | _Psycho | eq player ? |
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| 01:14.35 | treke | http://info.brooks.edu/~ggilbert/settings-fixed.jpg |
| 01:15.22 | mewyn | meh |
| 01:15.32 | mewyn | i prefer my randomly scattered overlapping windows |
| 01:15.35 | _Psycho | whats the diff ? |
| 01:15.43 | _Psycho | forgot old one |
| 01:15.54 | treke | _Psycho: A combo box instead of a list box :) |
| 01:16.44 | mewyn | oh, you are talking about the security settings thingine :) |
| 01:17.11 | treke | hehe |
| 01:17.34 | mewyn | i still prefer my scattered windows |
| 01:17.43 | treke | hehe. |
| 01:17.58 | treke | I have lots of scattered overlapping windows |
| 01:18.19 | treke | they just completly overlap each other :) |
| 01:18.20 | mewyn | doesn't look it |
| 01:18.24 | mewyn | ah |
| 01:19.02 | mewyn | i prefer partial overlap |
| 01:19.17 | mewyn | i can't get to it if it's not partially visible |
| 01:20.52 | _Psycho | oh yeah |
| 01:21.19 | treke | _Psycho: since there will ususally be fewer than a dozen choices it will be fine |
| 01:21.46 | treke | _Psycho: When I first did the app, I was testing it on a machine with 30-40 user accounts |
| 01:22.09 | _Psycho | NIS sync ? |
| 01:22.25 | treke | nope |
| 01:23.22 | treke | just a bunch of people and services who have been installed or need access to this machine |
| 01:23.35 | _Psycho | ah ok |
| 01:25.05 | mewyn | hrm... i feel like wings tonight |
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| 01:44.35 | noidd | wtf - buildroot compiled first time with no errors! |
| 01:44.48 | noidd | who are you and what have you done with the real kergoth? |
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| 01:45.57 | kergoth`bbl | treke: that Ion in that screenshot? |
| 01:46.09 | treke | yes |
| 01:46.34 | kergoth`bbl | cool |
| 01:47.50 | mewyn | hey kergoth |
| 01:48.07 | treke | kergoth`bbl: The new one has some fixes for my annoyances :) |
| 01:48.11 | treke | xmms is usable again |
| 01:48.29 | kergoth`bbl | nice |
| 01:48.32 | kergoth`bbl | i should try it out |
| 01:48.32 | treke | I need to play with the new kludges file |
| 01:49.49 | treke | it's definitly for the console oriented :) |
| 01:54.28 | ljp | console is overrated |
| 01:54.32 | ljp | :) |
| 01:55.58 | ljp | I am stuck. |
| 01:56.07 | ljp | as a duck |
| 01:56.12 | ljp | in the muck. |
| 01:56.14 | chouimat | coak |
| 01:56.20 | ljp | wtf |
| 01:56.41 | chouimat | ljp? |
| 01:56.50 | noidd | pkg_depends.c:164: satisfying_pkg=0x809ec38 |
| 01:56.50 | noidd | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libopieobex0: |
| 01:56.50 | noidd | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.55 | noidd | (on make image) |
| 01:57.11 | ljp | obex depends on vera? |
| 01:57.21 | kergoth | no, its ipkg misreporting the error |
| 01:57.27 | ljp | heh |
| 01:57.29 | noidd | first time i've attempted to make an image |
| 01:57.30 | kergoth | opie-common needs it, and libopieobex0 depends on opie-common |
| 01:57.38 | noidd | not sure if I have the guts to flash it :-) |
| 01:57.40 | kergoth | noidd: remove one of the qpf packages |
| 01:57.43 | kergoth | either light or full |
| 01:57.47 | kergoth | its a multiple provides situation |
| 01:57.51 | noidd | k |
| 01:58.41 | noidd | so qpf-vera-full and qpf-fixed is fine? |
| 01:58.50 | noidd | just not full + light |
| 01:58.57 | chouimat | wtf 1234453454 new revisions in buildroot??? |
| 01:58.59 | treke | use ligt |
| 01:59.02 | treke | light |
| 01:59.03 | treke | not full |
| 01:59.08 | noidd | ok |
| 01:59.33 | treke | unless you have a 640x480 or larger device, the bigger sizes in full are just a waste of space |
| 02:00.03 | noidd | still getting the error |
| 02:00.13 | treke | remove the file |
| 02:00.14 | kergoth | _remove one_ |
| 02:00.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:00.18 | kergoth | yea |
| 02:00.18 | noidd | gonna read through the debug - see if i can make any sense of it |
| 02:00.25 | treke | rm output/ipks/qpf-bitstream-full* |
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| 02:00.35 | treke | dont read the debug. Read what we tell you :) |
| 02:00.55 | noidd | i have vera-light and qpf-fixed |
| 02:00.59 | noidd | hehe |
| 02:01.11 | treke | you deleted the full file? |
| 02:01.51 | treke | kergoth: I had fun with the new timezones packages last week :) |
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| 02:02.21 | treke | kergoth: I ran a build, redirect the output to a file, and came home to an 8 gig log file :) |
| 02:02.23 | noidd | yes I did |
| 02:02.25 | ljp | new? |
| 02:02.25 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:02.29 | ljp | whats new about it |
| 02:02.33 | kergoth | yeah, schurig split it up |
| 02:02.35 | kenb | okay |
| 02:02.54 | treke | It would have been larger, but I ran out of space |
| 02:02.58 | kenb | got net access again... wooho |
| 02:05.28 | noidd | ah ha |
| 02:05.46 | noidd | make SUBDIRS=packages/vera-font* mrproper |
| 02:05.50 | noidd | and make |
| 02:05.59 | noidd | yes to light, no to full |
| 02:06.05 | treke | noidd: no |
| 02:06.09 | treke | noidd: Delete full |
| 02:06.12 | treke | delete the file |
| 02:06.14 | treke | rm it |
| 02:06.15 | treke | remove it |
| 02:06.16 | kergoth | heh, mrproper will just recreate full |
| 02:06.21 | treke | get rid of the file |
| 02:06.47 | noidd | yup |
| 02:06.55 | noidd | just did that and it has passed that point now |
| 02:07.00 | noidd | and I have my image! |
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| 02:27.40 | treke | no wonder this machine is having problems |
| 02:27.50 | treke | I built support for my ide chipset as a module |
| 02:28.57 | ljp | hehehee |
| 02:29.12 | ljp | oohh. I might just make it to .au |
| 02:29.18 | treke | ooh? |
| 02:29.38 | noidd | I swear - this flash is the longest flash of my life |
| 02:30.42 | ljp | here's the plan.. get a short stay business pass, good for 3 months, while my long stay visa is processing. then, cancel the short stay permit when the long stay gets ok's |
| 02:30.45 | ljp | ok'd |
| 02:30.52 | kergoth | nice |
| 02:31.05 | noidd | can you have a visa app in while one is current? |
| 02:31.10 | ljp | I just wonder if it wont interfer with the long term one |
| 02:31.12 | treke | "Oh look he is only staying three months. Lets cancel his long stay visa" |
| 02:31.12 | noidd | I know you can't in the us |
| 02:31.26 | noidd | lights are out - rebootin' |
| 02:32.02 | ljp | dunno. its warwicks idea. hopefully he will call about it first |
| 02:32.33 | ljp | might have to leave after the 3 months and then come back |
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| 02:37.09 | treke | shit that was it |
| 02:37.26 | treke | compiled with AMD IDE support and things are *much* nicer |
| 02:38.48 | ljp | ok, applying online.,. |
| 02:39.16 | ljp | approved |
| 02:39.18 | ljp | heh |
| 02:39.59 | chouimat|Zzzzz | ljp: wow |
| 02:40.54 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot ti-85 rom |
| 02:40.54 | | TheMasterMind1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 02:40.59 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot ti85 rom |
| 02:41.00 | | downloading and usage of this ROM is illegal. Your nick, IP address and email have been recorded and passed on to Texas Instruments. http://www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/emulation/essentialfiles.shtml |
| 02:41.15 | ljp | hehehee |
| 02:41.17 | ljp | doh |
| 02:41.33 | ljp | _they_ are the ones distributing it |
| 02:43.28 | noidd | herm |
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| 02:43.58 | treke | zar: the answer is no |
| 02:44.13 | zar | what? |
| 02:44.17 | noidd | the network application doesn't seem to have a way to enable encryption anymore |
| 02:44.19 | zar | to what? |
| 02:44.47 | treke | zar: The question who are going to ask |
| 02:44.57 | zar | I didnt have a question. |
| 02:45.11 | treke | well when you come up with one, there is your answer |
| 02:45.20 | zar | hahaha |
| 02:45.41 | treke | hehe |
| 02:45.51 | treke | ljp: more rum? |
| 02:45.58 | zar | haha |
| 02:47.34 | kergoth | speaking of alcohol, that reminds me i forgot to buy more scotch |
| 02:47.51 | treke | zar: Actually, I'm not intoxicated. Just bored |
| 02:48.31 | ljp | hmm, ya.. need more rum |
| 02:49.00 | zar | ya Im out of johnny walker here :( |
| 02:49.26 | zar | but my case caffinated water is comming tommorow :) |
| 02:49.40 | treke | caffinated water? |
| 02:49.53 | treke | interesting |
| 02:50.03 | zar | yup 200 mg of caffine per serving :) |
| 02:50.10 | zar | http://www.buzzwater.com |
| 02:50.26 | zar | gonna use it to make coffee in the morning :P |
| 02:51.36 | noidd | scotch is good |
| 02:53.20 | noidd | hmmm |
| 02:53.27 | noidd | keyboard isn't working in opie apps |
| 02:53.34 | noidd | I think I done somethjing stupid during the build |
| 02:53.59 | noidd | ah, scrap that - the keyboard is sending data to the console underneath - I hit <return> and the opie screen starts to scroll up |
| 02:54.01 | noidd | hmm |
| 02:55.31 | treke | shouldnt do that unless opie is starting in the background |
| 02:55.39 | treke | which it shouldnt be doing |
| 02:55.47 | treke | unless i fouled up on the opie patch |
| 02:55.48 | zar | hnmm i wonder if sco will start demanding fees from sharp for the zaurus |
| 02:56.00 | treke | which is 100% possible |
| 03:05.24 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: whats new |
| 03:06.29 | kergoth | nada |
| 03:06.58 | kergoth | got distracted from the kernel stuff by starting to add collie support to u-boot |
| 03:07.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:14.34 | NeoTron | kergoth: internet at home?!? |
| 03:15.25 | kergoth | yea, only took what, 2 months. |
| 03:15.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:17.41 | NeoTron | heh |
| 03:17.45 | NeoTron | how fast? |
| 03:19.14 | kergoth | 1.5mbit up & down |
| 03:19.20 | kergoth | $49.95 or something |
| 03:19.35 | kergoth | bought the cable modem instead of renting it at $10/month |
| 03:19.39 | kergoth | shit'll pay for itself ion 8 months |
| 03:19.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:20.24 | NeoTron | nice |
| 03:20.34 | NeoTron | cable modem, with 1.5 up?! |
| 03:20.42 | kergoth | so they said |
| 03:20.45 | kergoth | havnet tested it out |
| 03:20.48 | NeoTron | ah |
| 03:20.52 | NeoTron | well, that sounds awesome |
| 03:21.02 | NeoTron | so it's cable modem but not from the cable company since you don't have calbe? |
| 03:21.20 | kergoth | yeah, its this place called interquest |
| 03:23.47 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet. 1.5mbps up is awesome |
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| 03:31.31 | treke|home | 1.5mbs up |
| 03:31.31 | treke|home | whtf |
| 03:32.06 | treke|home | that sounds like a 50 dollar a month t1 :) |
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| 03:35.25 | ljp | hmmm |
| 03:35.49 | prpplague | ljp: that good eh? |
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| 03:37.33 | ljp | heh. well. looks as if I will actually be going to .au soon. |
| 03:37.44 | prpplague | ljp: cool |
| 03:37.50 | prpplague | ljp: where bouts? |
| 03:38.01 | prpplague | ljp: work? |
| 03:38.14 | ljp | yep. ;) |
| 03:38.15 | ljp | brisbane |
| 03:38.15 | ljp | working for Trolltech |
| 03:38.30 | prpplague | ljp: damm |
| 03:38.39 | prpplague | ljp: sounds like a great job |
| 03:38.47 | ljp | 'Qtopia Community Liason' |
| 03:38.57 | prpplague | ljp: other than you have to deal with QT ;) |
| 03:38.58 | kergoth | 'Resident Surf Girl Chaser' |
| 03:39.02 | ljp | I hope it will be |
| 03:39.22 | ljp | hehehe, mmmmm surf girls....... |
| 03:39.32 | ljp | I like Qt, so, its ok |
| 03:39.40 | prpplague | ljp: with aussie accents |
| 03:39.52 | ljp | even better! |
| 03:40.38 | ljp | had I known it would take 1 minute online to be aproved for a short term business visa, I would have done it months ago |
| 03:41.46 | prpplague | kergoth: you get that bottle of scotch? |
| 03:42.02 | kergoth | prpplague: naw, forgot. got groceries instead |
| 03:42.10 | prpplague | doh |
| 03:42.19 | kergoth | salright though, i havfe this bottle of cognac thatll do |
| 03:42.31 | ljp | now I have to repack all my shit |
| 03:42.47 | prpplague | kergoth: thataboy |
| 03:42.54 | ljp | and prepare my brain for a 20 hour plane ride |
| 03:42.56 | prpplague | ljp: where are you at now? |
| 03:43.03 | ljp | colorado |
| 03:43.13 | prpplague | ljp: fun |
| 03:43.18 | ljp | denver->l.a->Awkland->Brisbane |
| 03:43.24 | kergoth | 20 hours, jeeze. bring books |
| 03:43.30 | ljp | and dvd's |
| 03:43.34 | kergoth | yea |
| 03:43.48 | treke|home | and guns |
| 03:43.48 | prpplague | ljp: lol, i used to hithike to telluride when all that was there was bed and breakfast houses |
| 03:43.48 | ljp | they _should_ have plugins, I hope |
| 03:44.00 | prpplague | ljp: depends on the airline |
| 03:44.06 | prpplague | ljp: know which one? |
| 03:44.11 | ljp | ahh, telluride is wonderful place |
| 03:44.24 | ljp | havent made travel booking, thats tomorrow |
| 03:44.37 | ljp | I just want to get there. been too long of wait |
| 03:44.49 | prpplague | ljp: most airlines will have a plane diagram of the seats with outlets |
| 03:44.59 | prpplague | ljp: aa and delta i know do |
| 03:45.48 | ljp | great. now I'll have to do real work. |
| 03:46.06 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:46.26 | ljp | I still get to work on opie, too |
| 03:46.52 | prpplague | ljp: lol, i have a little pamplet i printed and put together i keep in my laptop bag of the different airlines and the seats with outlets and extra leg space, lol |
| 03:46.53 | ljp | but not the web site. I wonder if drw will still do that |
| 03:47.14 | ljp | hhehe you must fly alot |
| 03:47.19 | treke|home | you cant do the website? |
| 03:47.38 | ljp | no, cause I will be setting up a qtopia community website |
| 03:48.05 | treke|home | and the two are mutually exclusive? |
| 03:48.14 | prpplague | ljp: i do now, i'm hoping to make a job change soon *cough* right kergoth? |
| 03:48.16 | ljp | I guess. I dunno |
| 03:48.27 | ljp | ahhh, you headed for Dallas? |
| 03:48.39 | kergoth | hopefully |
| 03:48.43 | ljp | cool |
| 03:51.11 | kergoth | okay, its impossible to work at a laptop comfortably while on the floor |
| 03:51.16 | kergoth | I *really* need to buy some furniture |
| 03:51.19 | prpplague | kergoth: ha |
| 03:51.26 | prpplague | kergoth: still no furniture? lol |
| 03:51.34 | kergoth | no furniture |
| 03:51.42 | kergoth | plenty of alcohol, food, music cds, and dvds though |
| 03:51.46 | kergoth | intersting priorities |
| 03:52.01 | treke|home | sounds like my apartment for six months |
| 03:52.06 | prpplague | kergoth: don't feel bad, after my soon-to-be-ex froze all my accounts, i could even buy a chair for two weeks, lol |
| 03:52.21 | kergoth | prpplague: ouch |
| 03:52.34 | treke|home | I bought a desk the day and chair the day I moved in |
| 03:52.55 | treke|home | A couch and coffee table 6 months later |
| 03:53.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:53.24 | ljp | kergoths a hippy! he has no furniture! |
| 03:53.25 | kergoth | i didnt miss having a couch until i bought the tv |
| 03:53.26 | prpplague | treke|home: and a broom and mop 6 months after that? lol |
| 03:54.03 | treke|home | hehe |
| 03:54.22 | kergoth | hmm, i dont have a broom or mop |
| 03:54.27 | kergoth | i do have a swiffer though |
| 03:55.11 | ljp | swiffer? wtf is that? |
| 03:55.20 | prpplague | ljp: ha |
| 03:55.29 | kergoth | dont you watch tv? |
| 03:55.31 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:55.50 | prpplague | kergoth: he probably has life unlike the rest of us, lol |
| 03:56.26 | kergoth | nahhhh thats not it |
| 03:56.31 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 03:56.55 | prpplague | kergoth: are you impling that you have a life, or the fact of having a life is irrelevant to watching tv? |
| 03:57.20 | ljp | I dont really watch tv |
| 03:57.37 | ljp | and no. I have no life |
| 03:57.39 | ljp | yet |
| 03:57.41 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:57.49 | kergoth | hah, did i call it or what |
| 03:57.50 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:58.21 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:58.30 | prpplague | lol, well, i have to get up for a freakin conference call with singapore in the morning, so i'm hitting the hay |
| 03:59.06 | prpplague | kergoth: haven't found you a big haired texas girl to come over and enjoy the no furniture yet? lol |
| 03:59.14 | ljp | watch out for spiders, they like hay |
| 03:59.35 | kergoth | prpplague: conf call with singapore? ack, that sucks |
| 03:59.37 | treke|home | hmmm |
| 03:59.38 | ljp | he wants a hippy chick that doesnt like furniture |
| 03:59.49 | treke|home | hugry, but I dont want to cook |
| 03:59.54 | kergoth | hah, i need to get my shit together before I get a woman again |
| 04:00.00 | prpplague | kergoth: you know, the asian source code black hole |
| 04:00.01 | ljp | www.papajohns.com |
| 04:00.12 | kergoth | papajohns online rocks |
| 04:00.20 | treke|home | papajohns doesnt deliver here |
| 04:00.21 | prpplague | kergoth: source goes in but doesn;t out |
| 04:00.21 | ljp | ya, I'll miss that |
| 04:01.05 | kergoth | "so lorn, what do you miss about america?" |
| 04:01.07 | kergoth | "papa johns." |
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| 04:01.33 | treke|home | and his cart |
| 04:01.35 | treke|home | cat |
| 04:01.41 | prpplague | mmmmmmm, nice spice banana peppers |
| 04:01.44 | ljp | cat |
| 04:01.47 | ljp | yep |
| 04:01.54 | ljp | poor thing will be lonely |
| 04:02.00 | prpplague | mmm,cat pizza |
| 04:02.10 | treke|home | ljp: shove it down your pants and try to get it past customs |
| 04:02.11 | kergoth | so i picked up these habaneros from the cgrocery store the other day |
| 04:02.15 | kergoth | and had no idea how much to use |
| 04:02.19 | kergoth | that sucked. |
| 04:02.21 | prpplague | kergoth: ha |
| 04:02.23 | treke|home | hahaha |
| 04:02.32 | ljp | 'scuse me! get your hands off my fuzzy' |
| 04:02.53 | treke|home | 20 hours with a cat in your pants would be an interesting experience |
| 04:02.56 | prpplague | kergoth: did you feel like you were eating something made from draino? |
| 04:03.47 | kergoth | prpplague: i'm pretty sure the food was good, but i couldnt taste it |
| 04:03.57 | kergoth | that shtis good though used in sane quanititeis |
| 04:03.57 | prpplague | ljp: when you get there, you'll have to ship me some VB |
| 04:04.00 | kergoth | quantities rather |
| 04:04.08 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 04:04.19 | prpplague | kergoth: how many days ago was that? |
| 04:04.24 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 04:05.28 | prpplague | ok i give up gdb is kicking my but this evening |
| 04:05.31 | prpplague | later guys |
| 04:05.36 | kergoth | night |
| 04:07.43 | ljp | VB? Visual Basic? I think you can get that in Washington |
| 04:08.16 | ljp | oh, he went away |
| 04:19.24 | ljp | kergoth: you want this short c700 flash FAQ? |
| 04:19.42 | kergoth | yeah, go ahead and submit it |
| 04:19.55 | ljp | uhhh. submit? |
| 04:20.00 | ljp | oz.org? |
| 04:20.17 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:24.20 | NeoTron | kergoth: well, have fun with your $50 t1, as treke said, then :-) |
| 04:25.13 | kergoth | later |
| 04:31.06 | ljp | hmm. |
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| 10:06.54 | Piete | hey guys :) |
| 10:07.10 | Piete | I finally bought a 802.11b NIC for my desktop.. |
| 10:07.15 | Piete | byebye usbnet :) |
| 10:09.03 | Piete | hmm, any of you know if you need any options in the kernel to use wlan-ng? |
| 10:09.16 | Twiun | hey Piete |
| 10:09.21 | Piete | heya |
| 10:11.37 | Twiun | no idea about wlan-ng though |
| 10:11.45 | Twiun | I still haven't gone wireless |
| 10:12.00 | Piete | seems its not needed.. |
| 10:12.15 | Piete | ugh,, why when I get a new toy I'm too excited to RTFM? |
| 10:21.02 | cmartin | anybody here understand console and virtual console things? |
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| 10:24.10 | cmartin | i want to have console redirected to a virtual console, so i can use a serial keyboard - how would i do this and still be able to login to over serial and also be able to get to the console messages? |
| 10:24.22 | cmartin | anybody have any suggestions? |
| 10:33.17 | Twiun | hrm |
| 10:34.02 | Twiun | interactive redirection, to me, implies being able to redirect both input/output streams from the console to the virtual console |
| 10:34.33 | Twiun | output is reasonably easy - that's just a normal redirect, but input I have no idea how that would be achieved |
| 10:37.36 | cmartin | ok let me put it differently... |
| 10:38.48 | cmartin | i want to get console= option moved away from ttySA, but i would still like to have the option of logging in to the serial console or a way to view the console messages on the virtual terminal |
| 10:47.30 | Twiun | ok, in that case I have no idea |
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| 13:29.38 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:30.10 | pb_ | morning |
| 13:30.38 | tux_mike | morning? you say that like it's a good thing |
| 13:31.19 | pb_ | hah |
| 13:31.42 | tux_mike | i most certianly assure you that morning is not a good thing |
| 13:31.57 | pb_ | well, I still haven't quite adjusted to this Canadian timezone business, so it's more like early afternoon. |
| 13:32.22 | chouimat | tux_mike: <offensive> you can have sex at any hour of the day btw </offensive> |
| 13:33.12 | tux_mike | chouimat: true. but only when you have someone to have sex with. and i am without. |
| 13:33.54 | chouimat | tux_mike: ok I see your irc client is not configured to remove the offensive tags |
| 13:34.06 | tux_mike | why would it be? |
| 13:34.19 | noidd | hey guys |
| 13:34.19 | tux_mike | and it's hard to offend me |
| 13:34.24 | chouimat | tux_mike: some american don't like offensive words |
| 13:35.39 | tux_mike | fuck them |
| 13:36.12 | tux_mike | especially if they have hangups about the word sex |
| 13:37.12 | tux_mike | most of america tries to hide it's sexuality and other parts of it self away in a closet. |
| 13:39.27 | noidd | ain;'t that the trruth |
| 13:39.41 | tux_mike | fuckin puratins |
| 13:39.50 | tux_mike | it's all their damned fault |
| 13:42.06 | tux_mike | so many aspects of this country that i dislike |
| 13:42.21 | tux_mike | too much conformism |
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| 13:43.22 | chouimat | tux_mike: hehe |
| 13:43.41 | noidd | You laugh at me because i'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same. |
| 13:44.06 | tux_mike | i want to live in the yuppiest town in chicagoland and stir things up a bit |
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| 15:58.25 | treke | mornings may not be good things, but not having a morning is even worse |
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| 16:19.01 | TheMasterMind1 | morning |
| 16:19.09 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:27.41 | Twiun | hey kergoth, TheMasterMind1 |
| 16:27.59 | Twiun | kergoth: second interview in Goldman Sachs on Friday! |
| 16:28.30 | kergoth | nice, good luck |
| 16:29.09 | Twiun | got past the dev interviews (3 hours)... I wonder how long the HR interview will be |
| 16:36.17 | prpplague | Twiun: good luck |
| 16:36.24 | Twiun | prpplague: thanks :) |
| 16:36.25 | prpplague | Twiun: love those grueling interviews |
| 16:36.51 | Twiun | prpplague: I'm having it easier because I know someone there... my mate didn't and had to go through 26 interviews |
| 16:37.14 | kergoth | prpplague: got an email from jeanne at digi.. looks like they're actually trying to get epca accepted into 2.[56] |
| 16:37.39 | prpplague | kergoth: oh ya? i just boxed that dev board up this morning, lol |
| 16:37.54 | prpplague | kergoth: i got a call from ben the other day, but i couldn't take the call |
| 16:38.16 | prpplague | kergoth: i finally got cyace on there but i wasn't very happy |
| 16:57.56 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: k, 2.4.21 on collie suspends on boot, so you have to hit the power button to get farther, reproducing the old behavior in 2.4.6 |
| 16:58.13 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: awesome |
| 16:58.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: working on that damn battery switch |
| 16:58.39 | kergoth | not sure what its connected to, or how it results in the soft reset when you flip it |
| 16:58.48 | kergoth | need to wade back through sharp's collie sources and try to find it |
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| 17:06.54 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
| 17:07.09 | pb_ | yo kergoth |
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| 17:07.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: we ever figure out how to fix that TS mess? |
| 17:07.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: nope, and i cant test it due to the cracked ts digitizer |
| 17:07.46 | TheMasterMind1 | so we're screwed |
| 17:08.00 | treke | maybe ljp should send you one of his zauruses :) |
| 17:08.05 | kergoth | pretty much, unless someone can test for me |
| 17:08.15 | kergoth | i wish 2.4.x kernels had make allmodconfig |
| 17:11.34 | kergoth | hmm, fn+leftshift+d doenst seem to produce a ^D, might need to tweak our default keymap |
| 17:12.58 | kergoth | hey, can someone with a 2.4.6 5500 do me a favor? |
| 17:13.01 | kergoth | or 5000d |
| 17:13.27 | kergoth | hmmm,actually, might not work |
| 17:24.53 | kergoth | hmm, pcmcia wasnt able to figure out the irq for socket 1 |
| 17:27.42 | tux_mike | i can do it later |
| 17:27.49 | tux_mike | my z's battery is kaput |
| 17:36.29 | kenb | heh |
| 17:36.33 | kenb | watching tim's presentation |
| 17:36.39 | kenb | too bad I don't have a webcam |
| 17:41.18 | noidd | hey guys |
| 17:41.35 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:41.38 | noidd | I got me image working - but one gotcha - keyboard input goes to console - not to opie |
| 17:41.46 | noidd | have i missed something obvious |
| 17:41.56 | kergoth | like treke aid yesterday, that indicates opie was spawned into the background instead of foreground |
| 17:42.01 | kergoth | s/aid/said/ |
| 17:42.14 | noidd | ah, gotcha |
| 17:42.21 | kergoth | look in /etc/init.d/opie |
| 17:42.26 | noidd | that would make a loty of sense |
| 17:42.27 | kergoth | see if theres an & after the qpe calls |
| 17:42.44 | kergoth | when opie gets spawned into teh bg, the getty gets run on tty0 |
| 17:42.51 | kergoth | getty steals the keyboard out from under qpe |
| 17:43.01 | treke | go into build/opie and run ../../scripts/patcher -s |
| 17:43.02 | tux_mike | ick |
| 17:43.11 | treke | see if opie-init.d-patch was applied |
| 17:43.11 | noidd | bingo |
| 17:43.26 | noidd | btw, the commit that just went to bk as user "autoz@kimchi" was me |
| 17:43.36 | kenb | kergoth: what should I pester tim about during his presentation? :) |
| 17:43.39 | noidd | I forgot my username i commit as appears in the log |
| 17:43.51 | noidd | apologies - i'll re-commit from red@* from now on |
| 17:44.04 | kergoth | i was wondering who that was |
| 17:44.09 | kergoth | kenb: uhmm hell if i know |
| 17:44.16 | noidd | yeah - my bad |
| 17:44.31 | noidd | on the bright side - that was user arse@kimchi until I saw it appear in opie :-D |
| 17:44.43 | noidd | kernel compiled by arse@kimchi |
| 17:44.45 | noidd | :-/ |
| 17:44.51 | kenb | kergoth: did you find z5500 servie manual yet? |
| 17:45.00 | kenb | kergoth: need voting board ;) |
| 17:45.06 | kergoth | kenb: nah, i'm still not sure where i put it. might be with my paperwork in my trunk of my car |
| 17:45.31 | TheMasterMind1 | what do we need from the service manual? |
| 17:46.16 | kenb | TheMasterMind1: I need to know if there's a fuse in the 5500 |
| 17:46.21 | kenb | cause if so, I blew it. |
| 17:46.35 | kenb | if there's not fuse, then I blew the whole device |
| 17:46.56 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 17:47.07 | TheMasterMind1 | what were you doing? |
| 17:47.30 | kenb | plugged in RIM (12vdc)adapter instead of Z adapter. |
| 17:47.35 | TheMasterMind1 | ick |
| 17:47.35 | kenb | Z is 5vdc |
| 17:47.39 | noidd | oh shit |
| 17:47.45 | kenb | yea... the downsides of having too many gadgets. |
| 17:49.15 | treke | oops |
| 17:50.36 | treke | noidd: what device are you building for? |
| 17:52.25 | kergoth | fyi, 2.4.21 collie tree can be built by gcc 3.3 and used |
| 17:52.29 | kergoth | no problems |
| 17:53.03 | kenb | nice. |
| 17:53.06 | kenb | SD card support? |
| 17:53.23 | kergoth | the binary sd module from 2.4.18 will likely work, but i'd rather add z suport to handhelds.org's drivers |
| 17:53.30 | kenb | okay, cool |
| 17:58.00 | noidd | whee |
| 17:58.04 | noidd | oh, one more question |
| 17:58.11 | noidd | encryt[tion support for wireless |
| 17:58.17 | noidd | is not in network anymore |
| 17:58.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 17:58.34 | noidd | bug for opie peeps or configuration option? |
| 17:58.34 | kergoth | it isnt? |
| 17:58.40 | noidd | nope |
| 17:58.42 | kergoth | opie |
| 17:58.46 | noidd | just ip options |
| 17:58.49 | noidd | the wep tab is missing |
| 17:58.54 | kergoth | uh |
| 17:58.57 | kergoth | that isnt necessarily an opie bug |
| 17:59.03 | noidd | there is another profile called profiles |
| 17:59.05 | kergoth | can you run iwconfig wlan0? |
| 17:59.08 | noidd | yes |
| 17:59.18 | noidd | actually, thats an assumption |
| 17:59.25 | noidd | since i can;t use the keybnoard :-0) |
| 17:59.34 | kergoth | use multikey. |
| 17:59.34 | noidd | i'll build another image and check later |
| 17:59.39 | treke | it was probably disabled because it didnt work |
| 17:59.44 | noidd | ok |
| 17:59.48 | kergoth | eh? |
| 17:59.53 | kergoth | networksettings wireless config works |
| 18:00.06 | treke | kergoth: might not have worked on familiar |
| 18:00.21 | kergoth | then they shouldve made it a new config option |
| 18:00.24 | kergoth | disabling it globally is fucking stupid. |
| 18:00.37 | noidd | iwconfig wlan0 does work |
| 18:00.43 | noidd | i just checked it |
| 18:00.54 | noidd | using opie pick keyboard to type |
| 18:01.16 | noidd | select wlan0 connection |
| 18:01.21 | noidd | select configure |
| 18:01.40 | noidd | all you get is "automatiocally bring up" and "dhcp" radio buttons |
| 18:01.53 | noidd | and input boxes for ip, netmask etc |
| 18:01.54 | kergoth | no, all *YOU* get is that |
| 18:02.03 | kergoth | dont speak like you know what it does for everyone |
| 18:02.25 | noidd | ok, my apologies |
| 18:02.29 | noidd | ok, all I get is |
| 18:02.33 | noidd | :-) |
| 18:02.58 | treke | wep is there for me |
| 18:03.18 | noidd | ok, i'll redownload cvs and try again |
| 18:03.28 | noidd | i'll be back in a bit |
| 18:12.28 | TheMasterMind1 | grr. winxp won't boot in vmware on 2.6 |
| 18:12.36 | treke | sure it will |
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| 18:13.21 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: its not though. it was in 2.4, i booted that yesterday |
| 18:13.31 | TheMasterMind1 | now its going to lilo, i select xp, and it sits there with a blank screen |
| 18:14.36 | TheMasterMind1 | no windows boot log |
| 18:14.37 | TheMasterMind1 | o |
| 18:17.53 | kergoth | hey TheMasterMind1, what ever happened to that console app for adjusting the backlight, that used the bl support we have in our 2.4.19 collie tree? |
| 18:18.00 | TheMasterMind1 | i still have it |
| 18:18.01 | TheMasterMind1 | i think |
| 18:18.10 | kergoth | add it to buildroot |
| 18:18.35 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 18:23.19 | prpplague | kergoth: jeeze the waiting for a phone call is the hardest part of this job thing, lol |
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| 18:23.42 | chouimat | ? |
| 18:24.00 | pb_ | re |
| 18:24.06 | prpplague | pb_: howdy |
| 18:24.13 | pb_ | hi prpplague |
| 18:24.19 | prpplague | pb_: i see you made it to OLS this year |
| 18:25.17 | pb_ | yep. been here a few days now; I was at the kernel thing before OLS proper. |
| 18:25.32 | prpplague | pb_: ahh |
| 18:25.45 | prpplague | pb_: did rmk make it? |
| 18:25.53 | pb_ | yep, he's here. Riker also. |
| 18:26.23 | prpplague | pb_: ya i was suppose to room with tim, but work made me cancel at the last minute friday |
| 18:26.27 | prpplague | pb_: :( |
| 18:26.31 | pb_ | suck |
| 18:26.35 | treke | so. |
| 18:26.45 | treke | I'm looking for something small and cheap that can run linux |
| 18:26.52 | treke | doesnt necesarrily need to be a pda. any ideas? |
| 18:27.10 | prpplague | treke: need a hell of a lot more info, lol |
| 18:27.21 | prpplague | treke: like what you want to do with it, lol |
| 18:27.52 | treke | prpplague: measuring the amount of coffee in a coffee pot :) |
| 18:28.09 | treke | not my idea :) |
| 18:28.16 | prpplague | treke: need it to be small? |
| 18:28.24 | treke | yeah |
| 18:28.32 | prpplague | how small? |
| 18:28.33 | treke | my boss is looking for a project :) |
| 18:28.44 | pb_ | treke: how small? "embedded" PC like the VIA EPiA is about as cheap as it gets. |
| 18:29.34 | treke | preferably something pda sized. I was thinking an old ipaq 3100 might be doable |
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| 18:30.08 | pb_ | Yeah, that'd work. |
| 18:30.10 | prpplague | treke: http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=78 |
| 18:36.03 | treke | maybe a vr3 |
| 18:36.54 | TheMasterMind1 | stupid pos vmware |
| 18:38.10 | treke | vmware is fine. You are using an unsupported kernel. |
| 18:38.16 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i know |
| 18:38.19 | treke | it works here though |
| 18:38.31 | TheMasterMind1 | what does vmware use to access video card |
| 18:39.07 | treke | X |
| 18:42.27 | kergoth | finally, pcmcia works |
| 18:42.28 | kergoth | whew |
| 18:42.35 | kergoth | stupid ide_cs/ide-cs crap |
| 18:42.38 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:42.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: heh |
| 18:42.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: doing collie stuff? |
| 18:42.57 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:43.46 | kergoth | I need someone on 2.4.6 on collie who also has a serial cable.. |
| 18:43.50 | kergoth | long shot, i should just relfash 2.4.6 |
| 18:43.51 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:45.17 | treke | personally I'd just buy a coffee machine for the office |
| 18:45.31 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 18:46.00 | chouimat | kergoth: fedex me one ;) |
| 18:46.00 | TheMasterMind1 | why do you need a linux box to do it.. can't you do it with a simple sensor and an avr |
| 18:46.17 | treke | dont ask me :p |
| 18:46.25 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 18:46.30 | TheMasterMind1 | vmware just released a new version |
| 18:46.36 | treke | nifty |
| 18:46.51 | chouimat | 4.0.1? |
| 18:47.00 | kergoth | why the hell is ide-cs in drivers/ide/legacy? |
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| 18:51.34 | kergoth | heh, 2.4.21 boots alot faster |
| 18:51.46 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 18:51.50 | kergoth | than 2.4.6 i mean. jffs2 mount time ims a lot less. didnt notice that before |
| 18:53.37 | TheMasterMind1 | does the sd module load in .21? |
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| 19:01.28 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: what knew in vmware 4.0.1 build 5289? |
| 19:01.41 | kergoth | s/knew/new/ |
| 19:01.59 | chouimat | kergoth: bah |
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| 19:04.41 | ljp | s/bah/bleh/ |
| 19:06.52 | TheMasterMind1 | chouimat: doesn't look like much |
| 19:07.04 | TheMasterMind1 | my xp still shows up blank |
| 19:07.05 | TheMasterMind1 | so i gave up |
| 19:07.08 | kergoth | woot! |
| 19:07.10 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i found it |
| 19:07.15 | TheMasterMind1 | prolly some video driver thing in kernel |
| 19:07.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: the battery switch shit |
| 19:07.18 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: nice |
| 19:07.50 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: k still using 2.6? |
| 19:08.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 19:08.19 | TheMasterMind1 | not sure why, lots of stuff doesn't work :) |
| 19:09.01 | TheMasterMind1 | hows opie 1.0 coming |
| 19:09.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.31 | kergoth | thats it right there |
| 19:09.35 | TheMasterMind1 | haha |
| 19:09.37 | kergoth | 'batok' is the battery switch |
| 19:09.45 | kergoth | I'll add that shit into our battery driver |
| 19:09.50 | kergoth | err, actually, not sure wher eit belongs |
| 19:10.19 | kergoth | since its really in actuality a switch, the fact that its used by the battery is irrelevent |
| 19:10.24 | kergoth | hey, doesnt input layer support switches? |
| 19:10.42 | kergoth | bleh, not the version in 2.4.. |
| 19:12.56 | kergoth | well, i could do it, but its a lot ofcomplexity for something so simple |
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| 19:16.34 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 19:17.26 | kergoth | I need a way to veto a resume, and thereby drop us back into a suspended state |
| 19:17.46 | TheMasterMind1 | GLOBAL VARIABLE!! |
| 19:17.48 | TheMasterMind1 | =P |
| 19:17.56 | kergoth | ~lart TheMasterMind1 for acting like sharp/lineo |
| 19:27.08 | ljp | I thought everything is global in c |
| 19:27.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 19:28.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:29.22 | ljp | man, I gotta repack.. |
| 19:29.40 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf is up with the \kritikal\ guy |
| 19:30.09 | kergoth | dunno, found it amusing though |
| 19:31.19 | ljp | hehe |
| 19:31.49 | ljp | qtopia without keyboard qte patch doesnt work correctly.. |
| 19:31.50 | ljp | heh |
| 19:34.10 | ljp | hmm, thunderstorm |
| 19:35.43 | ljp | oohhh, close one |
| 19:37.51 | ljp | more coffee... |
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| 19:43.02 | ljp | rain |
| 19:44.25 | treke | oh sweet |
| 19:45.08 | treke | hrmmm. how did someone use scap on bootldr |
| 19:45.11 | treke | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.0.png |
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| 19:48.47 | mewyn | pfm |
| 19:51.21 | mewyn | are you out to sea? |
| 19:53.49 | ljp | no. net split |
| 19:55.24 | mewyn | ah |
| 19:55.44 | ljp | :) |
| 19:55.45 | mewyn | my next question was gonna be did someone expose you to UnixWhore? |
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| 19:58.38 | Neo|Work | ah, nice - http://www.buygpsnow.com/ |
| 20:02.46 | mewyn | hrm |
| 20:02.54 | mewyn | that's odd |
| 20:03.34 | mewyn | sdl seems to put you into a locked virtual desktop when in full screen |
| 20:05.32 | treke | yes |
| 20:06.22 | Neo|Work | the only way of doing it (traditionally) |
| 20:06.25 | mewyn | and if you move your mouse before it locks... uh oh :) |
| 20:07.07 | treke | yup :) |
| 20:07.13 | kergoth | woo, battery switch seems to be working |
| 20:07.28 | mewyn | glad mame has a way to toggle between full screen and windowed in the sdl version |
| 20:07.38 | mewyn | kergoth: battery switch? |
| 20:08.39 | kergoth | mewyn: yeah, the swtich on the back of the 5500/5000d, aka 'soft reset' |
| 20:08.47 | mewyn | oh |
| 20:09.02 | mewyn | what was wrong with it before? |
| 20:09.11 | kergoth | uh, it didnt do anything |
| 20:09.12 | kergoth | at all |
| 20:09.15 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:09.19 | mewyn | since when? |
| 20:09.32 | kergoth | 2.4.21 |
| 20:09.35 | kergoth | the new tree |
| 20:11.06 | mewyn | ah |
| 20:11.30 | kergoth | was one of those things i never got around to doing |
| 20:14.21 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 20:17.12 | kergoth | damnit, it isnt working quite right |
| 20:21.27 | treke | ljp: tell trolltech to add a qpe style to qt-designer 2 |
| 20:26.00 | ljp | dunno |
| 20:26.04 | mickeyl | kergoth: nice work! |
| 20:26.12 | mickeyl | (battery switch) |
| 20:26.26 | mickeyl | kergoth: now just the touchscreen or is something else missing? |
| 20:27.02 | TheMasterMind1 | sd and ts |
| 20:29.21 | ljp | tna is missing |
| 20:29.33 | mickeyl | lol |
| 20:29.41 | mickeyl | not here ;) |
| 20:30.16 | ljp | doesnt count, your married |
| 20:30.27 | ljp | :) |
| 20:30.27 | mickeyl | you're right (*sigh*) ;) |
| 20:30.36 | chouimat | tna? |
| 20:30.58 | mickeyl | chouimat: a musicians expression |
| 20:31.08 | mickeyl | chouimat: especially used when producing video clips |
| 20:31.14 | ljp | t*ts and *ss |
| 20:31.16 | treke | tits and ass? |
| 20:31.21 | mickeyl | hehe, yep |
| 20:31.49 | treke | chouimat will definitly be familiar with the concept |
| 20:31.56 | treke | jut not the terminology |
| 20:32.55 | chouimat | treke: shaddap |
| 20:42.48 | kergoth | gah! |
| 20:43.01 | kergoth | printk("%s left\n" % __FUNCTION__); |
| 20:43.05 | kergoth | whats wrong with this picture? |
| 20:43.07 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:43.46 | ljp | hmm |
| 20:44.29 | ljp | there's no rum in your hand |
| 20:44.31 | ljp | ? |
| 20:46.18 | Neo|Work | ljp: you said you might be going to AU soon? |
| 20:46.40 | ljp | YES |
| 20:47.06 | ljp | got a short term business visa, and then once I am there, get something else so I can stay |
| 20:47.34 | Neo|Work | they let you do that? |
| 20:48.02 | ljp | well, its a different procedure once I am there |
| 20:48.28 | kergoth | gah, i keep using python syntax in c kernel code |
| 20:48.35 | ljp | basically still a company sponsorship |
| 20:48.42 | ljp | hahahahahaha |
| 20:48.59 | ljp | doh, send _that_ path to kernel mailing list |
| 20:49.02 | ljp | :) |
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| 20:50.31 | TCMAN | hi |
| 21:02.43 | masticator | hey, kergoth's boss is gonna be featured in an eweek article |
| 21:02.44 | masticator | very cool |
| 21:02.57 | kergoth | he is? nice |
| 21:03.23 | masticator | yeah craig newell is writing a peice |
| 21:03.27 | masticator | I can send you the draft |
| 21:03.32 | masticator | but you cant circulate it |
| 21:03.40 | masticator | not until it gets published today |
| 21:05.43 | Neo|Work | kergoth: you need to stress test your cable modem. See if it's really 1.5 Mbps both ways |
| 21:07.01 | Neo|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.04 | Neo|Work | one which I knew |
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| 21:24.04 | treke | ok. that gets opie-security out of the way |
| 21:25.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: battery switch works yet? |
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| 21:26.47 | mickeyl | grrr |
| 21:26.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: kinda sorta |
| 21:26.52 | mickeyl | pango is killing me |
| 21:26.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: its more complex than you'd expect |
| 21:26.54 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:26.57 | TheMasterMind1 | thats better than nothing |
| 21:26.58 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how so |
| 21:27.09 | kergoth | there are 3 aspects |
| 21:27.14 | mickeyl | can't keep /usr/lib out of that damn libtool path... just wondering why it doesn't happen on the other libs |
| 21:27.19 | kergoth | 1) suspend immediately on boot if battery is set to replace |
| 21:27.32 | kergoth | 2) reboot Z if flipped to repl & back |
| 21:27.55 | kergoth | 3) abort Z resume if switch is in repl during the resume process |
| 21:28.32 | kergoth | I have 2 working, I'm pretty sure 3 is working, and 1 should be working, but isnt |
| 21:28.35 | kergoth | so its coming along |
| 21:29.27 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:30.03 | kergoth | for some reason we cant reboot |
| 21:30.15 | kergoth | it hangs the Z and the display fades the same way sharp's double reboot w/o suspend bug does |
| 21:30.26 | mickeyl | ouch |
| 21:30.43 | kergoth | time to sanity check the shutdown code path.. hit all the __exit's and the like |
| 21:31.17 | kergoth | serial doesnt seem to survive suspend, at least.. serial _console_ doesnt |
| 21:31.21 | kergoth | in kernel space |
| 21:31.35 | kergoth | once we hituser space i get messages on serial console again |
| 21:31.36 | kergoth | kinda weird |
| 21:32.10 | kergoth | therein lies the problem with debugging suspend/resume issues. if serial hasnt been brought back up yet, your prinks dont do mjuch good |
| 21:32.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:32.42 | ljp | hmmm, buildroot doesnt want to build me a toolchain before it wants to compile my kernel |
| 21:34.39 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: it doesn't like you |
| 21:35.51 | ljp | apparently |
| 21:36.11 | treke | who does |
| 21:36.16 | ljp | hmm make mrproper doesnt help |
| 21:36.22 | kergoth | his cat |
| 21:36.31 | ljp | how to do make a frickin toolchain |
| 21:36.37 | treke | his cat is only using him for food |
| 21:37.13 | ljp | ya, well. just wait till I tell SCO you arent going to purchase a linux license |
| 21:37.19 | kergoth | ljp: make SUBDIRS=packages/glibc or glibc-2.3.2, depending on what you're building |
| 21:37.43 | treke | is libstdc++ even on a stock zaurus? |
| 21:38.30 | ljp | whats 2.3.2 for? |
| 21:38.43 | ljp | or whats the diff? |
| 21:39.15 | treke | 2.3.2 is for gcc 3 builds |
| 21:39.56 | ljp | ok. hmm, is thats stuff in the Programming section for host? I thought that was for on zaurus.. |
| 21:39.59 | ljp | heh |
| 21:40.40 | TCMAN | who makes oz snapshots ? |
| 21:40.55 | treke | bipolar does them |
| 21:41.17 | kergoth | programming section _is_ for target |
| 21:41.23 | ljp | thats a bit confusing. shoudl be in the other menu, IMHO |
| 21:41.26 | kergoth | you need binutils and gcc from host tools |
| 21:41.30 | kergoth | and glibc from libraries |
| 21:41.36 | kergoth | no |
| 21:41.36 | ljp | hmmm |
| 21:41.38 | TCMAN | it seemed broken yesterday |
| 21:41.40 | kergoth | we need x86 binutils and gcc binaries |
| 21:41.45 | kergoth | but arm glibc library |
| 21:41.55 | kergoth | I just built a gcc3.3 chain last night |
| 21:42.03 | treke | TCMAN: that happens |
| 21:42.14 | treke | kinda the nature of unstable :) |
| 21:43.06 | ljp | hmmmm. |
| 21:43.17 | ljp | sometimes buildroot can be a bit braindead.. |
| 21:43.20 | TCMAN | treke: the archive was broken actually :) |
| 21:43.28 | treke | ah |
| 21:43.33 | treke | then blame scanline |
| 21:44.02 | TCMAN | is there some blame chart ? |
| 21:44.05 | TCMAN | :))) |
| 21:44.06 | treke | yes |
| 21:44.24 | treke | if it works right, blame me |
| 21:44.28 | treke | if not, blame someone else |
| 21:44.36 | TCMAN | hehe |
| 21:44.45 | TCMAN | i hoped for something more advanced :) |
| 21:45.19 | TCMAN | for instance, telling me who to blame for mmc corruption :) |
| 21:45.37 | kergoth | sharp, for their driver and daemon that are crap |
| 21:45.38 | TCMAN | btw, never ever run fsck on sd-mmc, mine got burned out :) |
| 21:46.17 | TCMAN | now i reconfigured my z to use internal flash and install all apps on mmc, and i have to remember to eject mmc before suspend |
| 21:46.24 | treke | btw, in case anyone was wondering |
| 21:46.30 | treke | OPIE looks like ass at 800x600 :) |
| 21:46.39 | TCMAN | unless ejecting mmc from script in /etc/apmd/suspend.d will work |
| 21:46.51 | mickeyl | treke: right |
| 21:47.11 | TCMAN | i must say that opie detecting mmc insert and showing icons for all programs on the card is pretty cool |
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| 22:02.31 | treke | good plan |
| 22:04.51 | ljp | hmm hows Aug 1 sound? |
| 22:07.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i think i've got it goin :) |
| 22:08.57 | ljp | groovey |
| 22:09.48 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:09.58 | kergoth | it wont soft reset the pda though |
| 22:10.07 | kergoth | machine_reset doesnt appear to work |
| 22:10.18 | ljp | hmm.. |
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| 22:10.42 | kergoth | so the reboot command fails in teh same way |
| 22:11.26 | ljp | ehh who needs to reboot anyway |
| 22:11.34 | ljp | its linux! |
| 22:11.39 | TCMAN | it seems like display controller hangs or something |
| 22:12.00 | TCMAN | is there reset command/bit for display controller ? |
| 22:12.07 | Neo|Work | ljp: going to go aug 1? |
| 22:12.18 | kergoth | its more than just display |
| 22:12.22 | ljp | probably |
| 22:12.25 | kergoth | display wouldnt prevent the reboot, it'd just look funny _before_ it reboots |
| 22:12.29 | Neo|Work | cool |
| 22:12.30 | kergoth | it owuldnt hang indefinately the way it is |
| 22:12.54 | ljp | ya, I am not so sure I want to go now.. heh... |
| 22:12.56 | ljp | NOT |
| 22:13.43 | TCMAN | hmm, maybe |
| 22:13.57 | TCMAN | but it definitely looks like display doesnt get refreshed or something |
| 22:14.13 | kergoth | again, its far worse than just that |
| 22:14.23 | TCMAN | maybe display controller gets into off state but the backlight is still on or something like that |
| 22:14.27 | kergoth | i never get any serial output using serial console |
| 22:14.35 | kergoth | which means it never spawns the kernel again |
| 22:18.35 | mickeyl | so could it be something in the bootloader? |
| 22:20.18 | kergoth | TCMAN: check |
| 22:20.28 | kergoth | use romburst to rip the ospack apart and compare |
| 22:21.01 | TCMAN | kergoth: i'll do that at home, i am pretty busy now, sorry |
| 22:21.34 | kergoth | heh, you're the one wondering, not me. no need to say sorry |
| 22:21.40 | kergoth | i dont care myeslf |
| 22:22.27 | TCMAN | kergoth: i flashed 3.1 rom lately to check it out |
| 22:22.45 | TCMAN | kergoth: i am not sure if i still have this reboot problem |
| 22:23.23 | kergoth | muahaha |
| 22:23.24 | kergoth | it works! |
| 22:23.42 | kergoth | i know why sharp's 2.4.6 double reboot bug exists too |
| 22:23.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:23.56 | TCMAN | kergoth: please share :) |
| 22:24.05 | mickeyl | ? |
| 22:24.15 | kergoth | the key is the contents of the reset status register RCSR |
| 22:24.33 | kergoth | it gets cleared in sharp's suspend cycle, which makes the reboot succeed |
| 22:24.40 | kergoth | brb |
| 22:25.50 | ljp | booya! |
| 22:28.53 | kergoth | now to figure out where i put my sa1110 dev manual so i can find out why its doing that :) |
| 22:29.33 | mickeyl | hehe. congrats. isn't kernel hacking fun? ;) |
| 22:30.29 | kergoth | yeah, i like it :) |
| 22:31.32 | TCMAN | is there binary sdmmc driver for 2.4.19 kernel in buildroot yet ? i just selected 2.4.19 kernel and it doesnt show up |
| 22:31.42 | kergoth | no, there isnt |
| 22:31.47 | kergoth | and we arent using 2.4.19 anymore anyway |
| 22:31.49 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:31.59 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:32.32 | kergoth | now, i need someone to test touchscreen for me |
| 22:32.39 | kergoth | since my ts digitizer is cracked all to hell |
| 22:33.45 | TCMAN | kergoth: i can test stuff in the evening on my 5500, its hosed anyway :) |
| 22:34.07 | mickeyl | kergoth: i can test tomorrow, because now is sleeping time over here... |
| 22:34.13 | kergoth | k |
| 22:34.19 | mickeyl | mickeyl: if you want, leave me a botmail with details |
| 22:34.26 | mickeyl | kergoth even |
| 22:34.29 | mickeyl | g'night all |
| 22:34.36 | kergoth | night |
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| 22:51.23 | kergoth | god i hate doing bk -r diffs on a linux kernel tree |
| 22:52.05 | kergoth | oh n ice |
| 22:52.11 | kergoth | bk sfiles -c | bk diffs -u - |
| 22:52.14 | kergoth | _much_ faster |
| 23:09.15 | kergoth | too bad bk sfiles -pC is so much slower |
| 23:37.40 | masticator | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1201898,00.asp |
| 23:37.49 | masticator | yay for BZflag |
| 23:38.09 | masticator | tim is the man |
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| 23:39.24 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: whats new with kernel stuff |
| 23:39.35 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm about to start scavaging my room for my cf |
| 23:39.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: battery switch works |
| 23:39.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: and i fixed the reboot hang |
| 23:39.52 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 23:39.52 | kergoth | everything is pushed upstream |
| 23:39.56 | TheMasterMind1 | whats left |
| 23:40.03 | TheMasterMind1 | do we have a TODO? |
| 23:40.03 | kergoth | i updated todo also |
| 23:40.05 | TheMasterMind1 | whats still in it |
| 23:40.10 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 23:40.17 | kergoth | touchscreen, irda, and sdmmc |
| 23:40.29 | kergoth | irda may be working, but nobody ever tried it |
| 23:40.32 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 23:40.41 | TheMasterMind1 | is there more involved to SD than just insmod -f sd.o |
| 23:40.51 | kergoth | that probably works |
| 23:41.04 | kergoth | i'd like to add z support to the hh.o mmc drivers, since they support sd |
| 23:42.07 | TheMasterMind1 | ah right |
| 23:42.11 | TheMasterMind1 | with the new patch |
| 23:42.14 | TheMasterMind1 | that'd be sweet |
| 23:42.20 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:42.34 | TheMasterMind1 | ok lemme see if i can find this damn CF |
| 23:42.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i think its under my bed |
| 23:42.57 | ljp | my brain patch? |
| 23:46.24 | ljp | oh, I used C in a C++ file... |
| 23:46.30 | TheMasterMind1 | so |
| 23:48.46 | ljp | that makes me lett, dont it |
| 23:48.47 | ljp | ? |
| 23:48.50 | ljp | leet |
| 23:51.07 | ljp | man, no one has humor anymore.. geeezz |
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| 23:55.47 | kergoth`bbl | TheMasterMind1: if you get a chance, test forcde loading the sd module, and ts_calibrate+ts_test |
| 23:57.15 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`bbl: how do i pull the tree again |
| 23:59.51 | ljp | bk pull |
