| 00:00.53 | beattie | I think I'm working with the 2.4.18 sources from Sharp |
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| 00:04.54 | TheMasterMind1 | almost there |
| 00:05.02 | TheMasterMind1 | yea i patched it with the sharp patches |
| 00:05.54 | beattie | becuase mind doe not even compile "sa1100-flash.c" |
| 00:06.26 | TheMasterMind1 | nor does this one |
| 00:06.28 | TheMasterMind1 | thats the problem |
| 00:06.30 | TheMasterMind1 | you have to enable cfi |
| 00:06.36 | TheMasterMind1 | and enabled sa1100_mtd |
| 00:06.47 | TheMasterMind1 | trying that now |
| 00:07.59 | beattie | iflashed a kernel an eth new initrd, then noticed the download was not complete :) |
| 00:08.10 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
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| 00:12.17 | beattie | what di you enable I'm in menuconfig |
| 00:48.41 | TheMasterMind1 | if you look at the config for .19 |
| 00:48.49 | TheMasterMind1 | it enables obsoleted drivers |
| 00:48.52 | TheMasterMind1 | and mtd_sharp |
| 00:48.58 | TheMasterMind1 | if i enable those the kernel doesn't boot |
| 00:49.25 | TheMasterMind1 | does that mean its panicing before the lcd gets turned on or something |
| 00:49.30 | TheMasterMind1 | can you see whats going on via a serial cable? |
| 00:51.38 | beattie`eats | no won't boot if I enable serial console :( |
| 00:54.30 | TheMasterMind1 | lksfjlakjdfasdf |
| 00:55.05 | TheMasterMind1 | what a pain |
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| 00:56.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 00:56.05 | TheMasterMind1 | how about |
| 00:56.09 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: have you seen sharpsl-flash.c |
| 00:56.14 | TheMasterMind1 | instead of sa1100=flash.c |
| 00:56.17 | TheMasterMind1 | thats what sharp rom uses |
| 00:56.21 | TheMasterMind1 | we can edit partition schme in there too |
| 00:56.27 | beattie | let me take a look |
| 00:57.05 | TheMasterMind1 | that makes more sense |
| 00:57.07 | TheMasterMind1 | since we know it works |
| 00:57.12 | TheMasterMind1 | beh, shoudla thought of it before |
| 00:57.13 | TheMasterMind1 | stupid me |
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| 00:58.12 | beattie | none for collie |
| 00:59.10 | TheMasterMind1 | yea we need to add one |
| 00:59.19 | TheMasterMind1 | but how does it work with the sharp rom on collie though |
| 00:59.47 | TheMasterMind1 | oh thats probably what the MTDROM variables do |
| 01:00.01 | TheMasterMind1 | you know, technically we could just set those rom variables to the right offset i think and it'd work |
| 01:00.49 | TheMasterMind1 | ./drivers/mtd/devices/sa1100_mtdrom.c |
| 01:01.28 | TheMasterMind1 | should bang head against wall |
| 01:02.00 | masticator_ | wussup homeez. |
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| 01:02.58 | masticator_ | I hear kernel talk |
| 01:03.36 | TheMasterMind1 | pain in the ass talk |
| 01:05.21 | TheMasterMind1 | see the way the sharp rom has it |
| 01:05.24 | TheMasterMind1 | there's no mtd partitions |
| 01:05.35 | TheMasterMind1 | so i dunno how they mount their storage ram partition |
| 01:05.37 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: can you check |
| 01:06.25 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: how by looking at a running unit? I can reflash it |
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| 01:07.41 | TheMasterMind1 | *shrug* |
| 01:07.45 | TheMasterMind1 | or find someone running it |
| 01:07.47 | TheMasterMind1 | prolly easier |
| 01:10.16 | beattie | well what I have right now is a brick |
| 01:10.35 | TheMasterMind1 | gah, why won't this boot now |
| 01:10.36 | TheMasterMind1 | stupid thing |
| 01:10.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i used the sharp method!! |
| 01:12.01 | TheMasterMind1 | mrpropering.. |
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| 01:15.04 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit it won't boot |
| 01:15.07 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't get it |
| 01:15.47 | beattie | me neither ... I've got sharp 3.10 up, let me take a look |
| 01:18.23 | beattie | crap, I need to instrall ssh |
| 01:19.42 | beattie | frankly the kernel stuff has me baffled, but I have not had all that much time to put into it |
| 01:23.22 | beattie | /dev/mtdblock0 on / type cramfs (ro) |
| 01:23.23 | beattie | /dev/ram1 on /dev type minix (rw) |
| 01:23.23 | beattie | /dev/mtdblock1 on /home type ext2 (rw,sync) |
| 01:23.23 | beattie | none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) |
| 01:23.23 | beattie | /dev/mmcda1 on /usr/mnt.rom/card type vfat (rw) |
| 01:23.25 | beattie | /dev/hda1 on /usr/mnt.rom/cf type vfat (rw,noatime) |
| 01:23.39 | beattie | mtdblcok1 is root |
| 01:25.17 | beattie | or initrd I think |
| 01:25.48 | beattie | no forget what I said |
| 01:29.02 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 01:30.12 | beattie | it looks liek sharp puts initrd on 0 |
| 01:31.39 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 01:31.44 | TheMasterMind1 | thats what the / type cramfs is |
| 01:32.00 | TheMasterMind1 | it doesn't put it there, it just defines mtdblock0 as starting where our mtdblock4 starts |
| 01:32.09 | beattie | right |
| 01:35.30 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't understand why this thing isn't booting though |
| 01:37.18 | beattie | well let me go back to a kernel that I know will boot with the Sharp root fs ... |
| 01:37.53 | TheMasterMind1 | technically, you should be able to put openzaurus initrd with the sharp kernel and it'd work |
| 01:37.58 | TheMasterMind1 | cept shapr kernel doesn't have jffs2 |
| 01:38.16 | beattie | right, after it boots I'll try that |
| 01:43.31 | beattie | hmmmm, have to try to build onw with jffs2 |
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| 01:50.23 | TheMasterMind1 | not booting still |
| 01:50.26 | TheMasterMind1 | not making any sense to me |
| 01:52.43 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: I just figured there was a lot of work still to be done |
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| 01:58.02 | TheMasterMind1 | *sigh* |
| 01:58.04 | TheMasterMind1 | i dunno what i did |
| 01:58.08 | TheMasterMind1 | i can't manage to build a kernel that boots anymore |
| 01:58.34 | beattie | ok setp 1 I have a kernel that boost withe the sharp FS, now I try to add jffs2 |
| 02:04.15 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 02:04.46 | beattie | of cousre the problem with these kernsle is the neiter usb nor wireless networking work |
| 02:05.37 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:05.57 | TheMasterMind1 | alright, i'm building a kernel with almost the exact same config as the sharp one |
| 02:06.04 | TheMasterMind1 | same offsets for ram and rom |
| 02:06.08 | TheMasterMind1 | if this doesn't work, i dunno what will |
| 02:10.41 | TheMasterMind1 | AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA |
| 02:10.48 | TheMasterMind1 | I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:10.50 | TheMasterMind1 | OPIE STARTED |
| 02:10.55 | TheMasterMind1 | WITH A SHARP .18 KERNEL |
| 02:10.58 | TheMasterMind1 | WITH SHARP LOGO SCREEN |
| 02:11.10 | llornkcor | caps lock |
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| 02:11.29 | TheMasterMind1 | llornkcor: no, that was all with shift |
| 02:11.38 | beattie | hmmmmm, well mine did not boot :( |
| 02:11.49 | TheMasterMind1 | yes theres some option that causes it not to boot |
| 02:11.59 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm going to start enabling things one by one and find it |
| 02:12.23 | llornkcor | eeeeehhh, booting is overrated |
| 02:13.31 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe its if you have vt_console =y and no console= defined? |
| 02:13.47 | TheMasterMind1 | ~lart llornkcor |
| 02:13.54 | beattie | and you tough held just right |
| 02:13.56 | TheMasterMind1 | ah, its ljp |
| 02:13.57 | beattie | tounge |
| 02:14.07 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: yea really |
| 02:14.59 | beattie | did you make any source changes? |
| 02:15.13 | ljp | whoops |
| 02:16.14 | ljp | has qte 2.3.6 been added yet? |
| 02:16.16 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: nope |
| 02:16.19 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: no |
| 02:16.23 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll do that next |
| 02:16.23 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:16.35 | TheMasterMind1 | if our keyboard patches don't break |
| 02:16.41 | beattie | can you put your .config up |
| 02:17.19 | ljp | well, once kergoth gets my ssh key in, I am going to add qtopia 1.6.2 |
| 02:19.08 | ljp | and that needs 2.3.6 :D |
| 02:19.32 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: uploaded |
| 02:21.26 | beattie | thanks |
| 02:22.32 | TheMasterMind1 | filename is obvious methinks |
| 02:22.33 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 02:22.49 | beattie | I think so |
| 02:24.28 | TheMasterMind1 | ok, vt enabled, logo disabled, still boots |
| 02:24.38 | TheMasterMind1 | and changed the size of ram too |
| 02:25.07 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 02:25.09 | TheMasterMind1 | uhoh |
| 02:25.12 | TheMasterMind1 | its mounting / as ro |
| 02:25.38 | TheMasterMind1 | its write-protected |
| 02:25.40 | TheMasterMind1 | must fix that |
| 02:35.54 | ljp | is bk still down? |
| 02:38.14 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 02:38.52 | beattie | I'm booted with the sharp fs, not to try OZ |
| 02:39.32 | ljp | well holy cow, how am I supposed to get any work don then? |
| 02:39.44 | ljp | done |
| 02:40.03 | beattie | work on someting important for a change :) |
| 02:40.49 | ljp | beeaatch! |
| 02:41.05 | ljp | this _is_ important! |
| 02:44.39 | beattie | well I agree it is a pain, but at least this way th ebuild can't break in a new and unexpected way |
| 02:44.52 | TheMasterMind1 | ljp: work on docs tab |
| 02:45.02 | ljp | hehehe |
| 02:45.17 | ljp | I will |
| 02:45.24 | ljp | I almost have to good again |
| 02:45.29 | ljp | have it |
| 02:45.49 | ljp | oh, that reminds me |
| 02:46.47 | TheMasterMind1 | YES! |
| 02:46.49 | TheMasterMind1 | its writable |
| 02:47.13 | TheMasterMind1 | err |
| 02:47.14 | TheMasterMind1 | i think |
| 02:47.18 | TheMasterMind1 | mount says its rw |
| 02:47.23 | TheMasterMind1 | dmesg says it mounted ro |
| 02:47.23 | ljp | ?? |
| 02:47.48 | TheMasterMind1 | and apparently its 100% full |
| 02:49.00 | TheMasterMind1 | and now i'm getting i/o errors |
| 02:49.00 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:49.01 | TheMasterMind1 | how nice. |
| 02:49.41 | beattie | this is a very different boot |
| 02:50.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ? |
| 02:50.25 | ljp | almost forgot to transfer my launcher patch |
| 02:50.55 | beattie | "Progress: 130 or 140 packages... |
| 02:51.21 | ljp | cool, I have my wifi cf working on my laptop also |
| 02:51.50 | beattie | hmmmmm I have a text login |
| 02:53.07 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: hrm |
| 02:53.09 | TheMasterMind1 | thats bad |
| 02:53.14 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: login, type df -h |
| 02:53.15 | TheMasterMind1 | whats it say |
| 02:53.35 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: opie should come up, did you flash that image on that link i gave you? |
| 02:53.43 | beattie | hang on just reset |
| 02:53.51 | beattie | I did |
| 02:54.32 | beattie | reconfiguring all packages |
| 02:54.33 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 02:54.43 | TheMasterMind1 | weird weird weird |
| 02:58.04 | beattie | must have grabbed the wrong one |
| 02:58.51 | TheMasterMind1 | but theres only one |
| 02:59.11 | beattie | it was the wrong size |
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| 03:06.35 | beattie | nope same thing ... we may have different sources |
| 03:07.11 | TheMasterMind1 | which url are you using |
| 03:07.26 | beattie | http://www.openzaurus.org/unofficial/unstable/3.2.5rc1/ |
| 03:07.34 | TheMasterMind1 | yep |
| 03:07.36 | TheMasterMind1 | thats the one |
| 03:07.40 | TheMasterMind1 | i uploaded it earlier today |
| 03:08.20 | beattie | mtdblock0 16 M on / |
| 03:08.27 | TheMasterMind1 | is it full |
| 03:08.30 | TheMasterMind1 | df -h |
| 03:08.35 | beattie | 100% |
| 03:08.44 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 03:08.46 | TheMasterMind1 | why is that |
| 03:09.30 | beattie | I think these sources were downloaded straight from Sharp |
| 03:09.43 | beattie | kernel sources |
| 03:11.26 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe buildroot is applying some patches |
| 03:11.41 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.41 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.41 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.41 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.42 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 03:14.31 | TheMasterMind1 | oh i probably need to change mkfs.jffs2 don't i |
| 03:14.43 | TheMasterMind1 | since i used the sharp rom starting location |
| 03:14.49 | TheMasterMind1 | beh, so confusing |
| 03:16.28 | beattie | hmmmm, ok I'll have to see if I have those sources, maybe tomorrow |
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| 05:17.40 | treke|home | ~kill Larry McBoy |
| 05:17.41 | | ACTION executes killall -9 Larry McBoy |
| 05:17.43 | treke|home | ~kill Larry McVoy |
| 05:17.45 | | ACTION executes killall -9 Larry McVoy |
| 05:27.38 | scanline | hmm... I can help with that :) |
| 05:30.22 | ljp | who is larry mcvoy? |
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| 05:31.34 | treke|home | bitkeeper author |
| 05:32.48 | ljp | hmmm why ? |
| 05:33.06 | treke|home | bkbits died |
| 05:33.16 | treke|home | so the openzaurus repository is unreachable |
| 05:34.23 | ljp | oh. ya. I noticed |
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| 05:35.43 | ljp | working now |
| 05:37.44 | treke|laptop | ljp: it wasnt 10 minutes ago :) |
| 05:43.50 | ljp | wasnt all day |
| 05:45.34 | beattie | it's back |
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| 06:09.05 | ljp_ | does the build for c700 make a working image? |
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| 06:27.40 | Ociocio | anyone know how to get a Socket CF+ LP WLAN card working in familiar? |
| 06:28.49 | pb_ | What state is it in at present? |
| 06:29.04 | Ociocio | what do you mean? |
| 06:29.10 | pb_ | well, what happens when you try to use it? |
| 06:29.31 | Ociocio | is says its an unsupported card, light doesnt even blink |
| 06:29.45 | pb_ | what does "cardctl ident" say? |
| 06:29.47 | Ociocio | i installed the spectrum24 module |
| 06:30.08 | Ociocio | o, it identifies it correctly, you want actual output? |
| 06:30.12 | pb_ | yes |
| 06:32.42 | Ociocio | Socket 0: | product into: "Socket", "CF+ LP WLAN Card Rev A", "1.00" | manfid: 0x0104, 1x001 | function: 6 (network) |
| 06:32.56 | Ociocio | | = line break |
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| 06:33.30 | pb_ | Looks like that card is not listed in /etc/pcmcia/config. You'll need to add an entry for it there. |
| 06:33.42 | Ociocio | SOcket 1: | no product info availiable |
| 06:34.10 | Ociocio | ill try that again, i tried that earlier with no luck, but perhaps i did something wrong |
| 06:34.21 | pb_ | Probably the easiest thing is to create an /etc/pcmcia/spectrum24.conf and put the definitions in that file. You might want to hassle the maintainer of spectrum24-modules to include that in the package. |
| 06:38.07 | Ociocio | what should the entry look like, cuz what i did before obviously wasnt right (or something just broken) |
| 06:39.20 | pb_ | There's two parts to it. First you need to make an entry like: |
| 06:39.24 | pb_ | device "spectrum24_cs" |
| 06:39.31 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.40 | pb_ | then, for your card: |
| 06:39.46 | pb_ | card "Socket LP WLAN" |
| 06:40.01 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.06 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.27 | pb_ | where the "manfid" numbers are the same ones that cardctl mentioned. |
| 06:40.56 | schurig | Ociocio: what is "LP" in "CF + LP WLAN Card" ? |
| 06:41.01 | Ociocio | ok, i do know the module name is spectrum34t_cs, should i sub that for spectrum24_cs? |
| 06:41.16 | Ociocio | schurig: really low power 802.11b |
| 06:42.06 | schurig | Ociocio: yes, if you know that is spectrum24t_cs, then use that name |
| 06:43.13 | pb_ | schurig: LP is low power. almost all the Socket cards have that in the name. |
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| 06:54.35 | Ociocio | ok, now it is identified, but the light still doesnt blink |
| 06:55.27 | Ociocio | and the module is loaded but "unused" |
| 06:55.31 | pb_ | Are there any messages in dmesg or logread? |
| 06:57.14 | Ociocio | "spectrum24t 1.04 may 12 2003 12:47:42" |
| 06:57.18 | Ociocio | dmesg |
| 07:01.27 | Ociocio | my guess is that the software isnt uploading the firmware to the card (yea, it needs to have firmware uploaded for some reason) but i dont know what package to get, i saw a site that had 2 packages but they were built for an earlier kernel |
| 07:03.05 | Ociocio | i know OZ supports it from base image |
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| 07:08.08 | andersee | g'day all |
| 07:08.41 | andersee | anyone tried the dropbear ssh server on the Z yet? http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html |
| 07:09.34 | Ociocio | not i, most people are just lurking though |
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| 07:23.21 | scanline | andersee: hmm, cute |
| 07:23.55 | andersee | agreed. |
| 07:24.25 | andersee | Just curious if I was the first to notice its existance. It looks pretty useful -- openssl is freaking huge |
| 07:27.19 | scanline | hadn't heard of it before, but looks pretty promising |
| 07:28.44 | andersee | yup |
| 07:31.30 | schurig | andersee: i always used the OpenSSH ssh server |
| 07:32.21 | schurig | andersee: but a smaller one would be nice. I'll look into it and maybe make an OpenZaurus package |
| 07:32.26 | andersee | Be nice if there were a client to go with it. Eliminating openssl from my Z would easily save 1 MB for other things |
| 07:37.41 | schurig | andersee: did you ever use an SSH client on your Z? |
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| 07:43.12 | andersee | I find it terribly useful |
| 07:44.08 | scanline | combined with an 802.11, it's like a battery powered swiss army chainsaw on wheels |
| 07:45.05 | andersee | scanline: 100% agreed |
| 07:45.51 | andersee | :-) |
| 07:45.55 | scanline | hehe |
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| 07:55.35 | schurig | andersee: so write a small ssh client using dropbear/tomcrypt |
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| 08:51.29 | killefiz | re |
| 08:51.52 | djr | killefiz: do you manually update your website? or is it user submitted/shows up immediately? |
| 08:52.18 | killefiz | djr: submitted changes have to be approved before they appear on the mainpage |
| 08:52.27 | djr | k |
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| 08:56.25 | schurig | andersee: I just added dropbear to the OpenZaurus build system |
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| 09:09.00 | darmou | Deos anyone know when the next oz release might be? |
| 09:14.21 | ||ugh | darmou, ask kergoth to post another omnibus news update on the openzaurus website, then maybe we will all know what the current time table guess is. |
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| 09:19.25 | schurig | darmou: it could well be the case that we wait till Opie 1.0, so that the next OZ version does not have lots of nifty new kernel stuff, but a new Opie ... |
| 09:19.35 | schurig | bit /me doesn't know this exactly :-) |
| 09:30.10 | cmartin | hi mickeyl |
| 09:30.51 | mickeyl | morning cmartin |
| 09:32.38 | mickeyl | cmartin: i think we should release OpenSIMpad 0.8.5 next week. This release will include Opie 1.0-rc[whatever]. What do you think? |
| 09:35.21 | cmartin | mickeyl: have you tested it? |
| 09:35.39 | schurig | andersee: dropbear is not that much smaller. When I start dropbear and use ps, I see: |
| 09:35.45 | schurig | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.48 | schurig | and with ssh-server I see: |
| 09:36.00 | schurig | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.06 | schurig | but the ipk is smaller ... |
| 09:36.57 | mickeyl | cmartin: tested what? |
| 09:37.16 | cmartin | mickeyl: i haven't built a new image since we released the first one |
| 09:37.37 | cmartin | mickeyl: the 0.8.5 Release you mentioned |
| 09:37.39 | schurig | mickeyl: this might be of interest for the SimPAD: we have a new SSH server named "dropbear" where the IPK file is just 135728 bytes. It does not need libssl, which alone is 488644 bytes. |
| 09:37.52 | schurig | mickeyl: AFAIK the flash on the simpad is a little bit small !??! |
| 09:38.08 | cmartin | schurig: only on some models |
| 09:38.19 | mickeyl | cmartin: Oh. Ah well, I test frequently with root-over-nfs - but no, i didn't test anything lately. I will do somewhere this week. |
| 09:38.40 | mickeyl | schurig: well... not smaller than on the Z :) |
| 09:38.55 | mickeyl | schurig: is dropbear in buildroot yet? |
| 09:39.02 | schurig | mickeyl: yeah, it is. |
| 09:39.17 | cmartin | mickeyl: is the Opie-1.0-rc[whatever] in buildroot? could i bk pull it now? |
| 09:39.32 | mickeyl | is bk online again? |
| 09:40.02 | schurig | mickeyl: just bk pushed half an hour ago |
| 09:40.07 | schurig | mickeyl: so bk seems to be online |
| 09:40.25 | mickeyl | cmartin: i included a config option in make menuconfig where you can choose between HEAD and OPIE_0_99_BRANCH (default is branch) - so you could build that |
| 09:40.29 | mickeyl | schurig: ok |
| 09:41.07 | schurig | mickeyl: i saw this ... but I don't have any idea how much of my ramses changes in HEAD made it into Branch ... |
| 09:41.08 | mickeyl | cmartin: branch contains the rc[whatever] of opie ;) |
| 09:41.31 | mickeyl | schurig: me neither... zecke is the only one who knows atm |
| 09:41.38 | cmartin | mickeyl: i'm confused, is default branch or head? |
| 09:42.05 | mickeyl | cmartin: default is branch which is ok |
| 09:42.26 | schurig | mickeyl: it look slike that the ipkg with current CVS again works ... |
| 09:42.30 | cmartin | mickeyl: didn't you mention a while back that we were using HEAD? |
| 09:43.22 | mickeyl | cmartin: yes. we were. but since BRANCH is much better than HEAD we should release all forthcoming versions with BRANCH |
| 09:43.38 | mickeyl | BRANCH has been bugfixed and polished over the last weeks, HEAD not |
| 09:43.47 | mickeyl | (or only partially) |
| 09:43.53 | cmartin | mickeyl: k |
| 09:44.39 | cmartin | mickeyl: are all three configs in def-configs using branch? |
| 09:45.13 | mickeyl | cmartin: so our users will have a stable GUI base (which will be Opie 1.0). |
| 09:45.30 | mickeyl | cmartin: no idea. i think the configs are not updated to include that config option... hence they use the default |
| 09:47.13 | cmartin | mickeyl: k, so branch will be used, right? |
| 09:49.00 | cmartin | just cleaning everything - will build a brand new image and feed today ;-) |
| 09:49.59 | mickeyl | cmartin: good. |
| 09:50.51 | cmartin | oops, when cleaning kernel-simpad i get an error: |
| 09:50.53 | cmartin | Makefile:182: *** must select at least one kernel in the config system. Stop. |
| 09:51.19 | mickeyl | check make menuconfig |
| 09:51.28 | mickeyl | new option names |
| 09:53.00 | cmartin | that was it, thanx |
| 09:54.49 | cmartin | mickeyl: should i put a webbrowser in the standard image - many users complain about none being in place per default - they could of course deinstall it and install a different one if they want |
| 09:55.14 | cmartin | mickeyl: of course, if I ever get konqe to compile on my machine |
| 09:58.42 | mickeyl | cmartin: mmh... webbrowser in standard image... do we have room for that? |
| 09:58.43 | cmartin | mickeyl: another question - will the new orinoco drivers be built per default? And is it a problem to put both hostap and orinoco together in one image? |
| 09:59.19 | cmartin | mickeyl: CL4 could be a problem - what about ubrowser for them? |
| 10:00.58 | mickeyl | ubrowser is hardly usable |
| 10:01.57 | mickeyl | cmartin: no idea if i got to that. check config please. |
| 10:02.11 | mickeyl | cmartin: hostap and orinoco are a problem with some cards. |
| 10:02.41 | mickeyl | cmartin: but that can be fixed by simply editing hostap.conf |
| 10:04.26 | cmartin | k |
| 10:05.03 | cmartin | libpcap is activated per default in you simpad-opie config - is that necessary? |
| 10:06.16 | mickeyl | you need that for opie-wellenreiter. no need to put it in the image per default |
| 10:07.41 | cmartin | usbd?, usbutilities? - necessary for usb-net? |
| 10:08.45 | cmartin | oh, opie says it needs libpcap - strange |
| 10:10.12 | mickeyl | not strange at all - opie-wellenreiter needs pcap and thus opie |
| 10:10.25 | mickeyl | that are _build_ time dependencies. |
| 10:10.27 | cmartin | mickeyl: shouldn't a dhcp client be install per default? |
| 10:10.41 | mickeyl | it is. udhcpc as part of busybox |
| 10:13.56 | cmartin | k |
| 10:17.22 | cmartin | mickeyl: do i have to clear my ipks directory before rebuilding? |
| 10:22.45 | Twiun | mornin' |
| 10:24.27 | pb_ | hi Twiun |
| 10:24.52 | Twiun | mickeyl: test runs with the progress daemon are looking good |
| 10:25.01 | Twiun | hey pb_ |
| 10:25.49 | Twiun | mickeyl: I've also noticed that we don't need a progress binary to talk to the daemon |
| 10:26.22 | Twiun | mickeyl: echo "whatever command" > daemon_fifo works just as well |
| 10:26.24 | mickeyl | cmartin: i recommend that |
| 10:26.47 | Twiun | mickeyl: so I'm going to make a generic progress sscript which tests for the fifo before sending the commands |
| 10:26.50 | mickeyl | Twiun: sounds pretty good and elegant. something to test ready? |
| 10:27.13 | Twiun | mickeyl: hopefully later today ;) |
| 10:27.32 | Twiun | mickeyl: mind you, I haven't been able to think up an elegant solution for outputting text |
| 10:30.36 | Twiun | any way of getting the PID of a process we just executed into the background? |
| 10:30.44 | Twiun | from inside a shell script? |
| 10:35.15 | mickeyl | mmh... must think about thatq |
| 10:35.18 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 10:35.28 | mithro | hey Twiun / mickeyl|lunch |
| 10:35.39 | Twiun | hey mithro |
| 10:37.32 | tronical | Twiun: $! |
| 10:37.42 | tronical | Twiun: blahProcess & |
| 10:37.46 | tronical | Twiun: pidsProcess=$! |
| 10:38.10 | tronical | err (processesPid, if you name the variable like that - whatever - you get the idea :) |
| 10:38.10 | Twiun | tronical: thanks! |
| 10:38.31 | Twiun | that means I can daemonise at progress start and kill it off after |
| 10:38.41 | Twiun | I wasn't looking forward to parsing the ps output ;) |
| 10:40.03 | mithro | whats everyone been up to? |
| 10:42.24 | tronical | Twiun: might consider putting a trap "kill $pid_of_the_process" 0 , so it gets killed for sure on quit |
| 10:42.32 | tronical | (automatically) |
| 10:42.53 | Twiun | hmmm, would that still apply from within an init'd script? |
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| 10:44.34 | tronical | hm, if you want to daemonize from wtihin an init script then you should use start-stop-daemon |
| 10:45.42 | Twiun | I didn't explain properly ;) |
| 10:45.57 | Twiun | the daemon need only run for the duration of the script |
| 10:46.30 | tronical | ah :) then it should work (trap) I think |
| 10:47.07 | Twiun | actually... why am I needing to kill it? |
| 10:47.17 | Twiun | I just remembered that I implemented a "die" command ;) |
| 10:50.06 | Twiun | # echo "die" > /var/run/progmond_fifo |
| 10:50.14 | Twiun | Shutting down daemon... |
| 10:50.43 | Twiun | ah yes, I remember now - I implemented that so the daemon could remove the fifo after itself |
| 10:51.08 | Twiun | as I couldn't handle SIGKILL from the code |
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| 11:50.33 | cmartin | mickeyl|lunch: problem with qte234-for-opie091-simpad.patch: |
| 11:50.36 | cmartin | . /home/simpad/opensimpad/scripts/patcher -p 0 -i /home/simpad/opensimpad/build/opie/qt/qte234-for-opie091-simpad.patch |
| 11:50.36 | cmartin | NOTE: import patch '/home/simpad/opensimpad/build/opie/qt/qte234-for-opie091-simpad.patch' as 'qte234-for-opie091-simpad' |
| 11:50.36 | cmartin | ERROR: patch did not apply, try again with force (-f -i ...) |
| 11:50.37 | cmartin | Patch had errors |
| 11:55.33 | Twiun | Argh. |
| 11:55.44 | Twiun | I *cannot* frigging believe this. |
| 11:56.01 | Twiun | a fucking bank which is closed on Mondays???? |
| 11:57.52 | schurig | cmartin: you can try to import the patch manually, with patcher -f -i <path-to-patch>. |
| 11:58.16 | schurig | cmartin: after this, look at the reject files, make them patched files correct and do "patcher -r" to refresh the patch |
| 12:13.25 | ljp_laptop | ATM |
| 12:13.48 | ljp_laptop | my bank is always open cause I have atm's and a bank card to access my account |
| 12:15.03 | schurig | the same here |
| 12:15.17 | schurig | I wonder what he means with "backward countries" ?!?! |
| 12:18.26 | ljp_laptop | anyone know if theres a wireless monitor for kde? |
| 12:20.10 | schurig | ljp_laptop: kwireless? |
| 12:20.11 | mickeyl | ljp_laptop: opie-wellenreiter |
| 12:20.56 | ljp_laptop | hehe, I only wanted an applet for signal strength |
| 12:21.18 | schurig | ljp_laptop: korinoco? |
| 12:21.45 | schurig | ljp_laptop: it works with other cards, too |
| 12:22.02 | schurig | and then there's http://sourceforge.net/projects/kwifimanager |
| 12:22.50 | Twiun | schurig: backward country in this instance being France |
| 12:23.12 | Twiun | schurig: wtf are they doing not being open on a monday? |
| 12:23.16 | schurig | Twiun: but they have ATM machines ... |
| 12:23.27 | Twiun | schurig: not really all that useful from the UK |
| 12:23.39 | mickeyl | cmartin: hmm... -p0 looks strange to me. should be -p1 |
| 12:23.51 | Twiun | schurig: plus, this isn't a current account - it's savings, so no plastic card |
| 12:24.19 | schurig | Twiun: hmm, that doesn't make a difference at the German "Postbank", you can get a plastic card for your savings account as well ... |
| 12:24.19 | mickeyl | cmartin: are you sure you have an update packages/qte/Makefile ? |
| 12:24.32 | schurig | Twiun: not sure on other banks ... |
| 12:24.38 | ljp_laptop | same here |
| 12:24.39 | schurig | Twiun: it would just not be an EC-card |
| 12:24.59 | Twiun | schurig: in any case, I can't reach the damn bank until tomorrow... |
| 12:25.26 | Twiun | schurig: I couldn't get the whole account balance transferred via a card anyway ;) |
| 12:25.47 | schurig | Twiun: get a dog, an empty basket, a 2 liter wine bottle, really old and smelly clothes and sit at the entry of the next Metro station. Then you will get some money ... |
| 12:26.00 | ljp_laptop | I could probably do that over the internet as well.. |
| 12:26.31 | schurig | ljp_laptop: yeah, but only if I had the PIN and TAN (password number & transaction numbers) with me ... |
| 12:29.20 | Twiun | ibot: change 2200 CHF to GBP |
| 12:30.29 | Twiun | yikesm the exchange rate's gone down a lot |
| 12:30.52 | schurig | Twiun: hehe, UK should have joined Euroland :-) |
| 12:31.10 | schurig | Twiun: in this case you could have carried cache, no bank transfer costs involved ... |
| 12:31.14 | ljp_laptop | and drive on the correct side of the road as well... |
| 12:31.54 | schurig | ljp_laptop: join(UK,Euroland) will come sometimes, driving on the right side of life will never come ... |
| 12:31.57 | Twiun | schurig: lol, and get mugged in the London streets my a gang of 12-year olds :) |
| 12:32.08 | Twiun | schurig: And I agree, the UK _should_ join the euro |
| 12:32.16 | schurig | Twiun: crime rate so bad? |
| 12:32.53 | Twiun | schurig: the UK is importing youth-gangs from the US |
| 12:32.58 | Twiun | schurig: it's dreadful |
| 12:33.44 | schurig | Twiun: we had some problems with neo-nazi gangs, but it evaded (??? went away, flatted down) somewhat |
| 12:34.59 | Twiun | schurig: abated I think |
| 12:35.29 | Twiun | schurig: thankfully, the gangs here haven't graduated to gun crime all that much |
| 12:35.37 | Twiun | schurig: still bats and knives |
| 12:36.01 | pb_ | best be thankful for small mercies, I suppose. |
| 12:38.21 | Twiun | yeah, it certainly won't last long :( |
| 12:38.38 | Twiun | gated communities are already starting to sprout in certain places |
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| 13:11.46 | schurig | kergoth`bbl: is this something for you: http://polysat.calpoly.edu/documents_cp2/cdh/data_sheets/toshiba_m1283bx.pdf ?? |
| 13:12.03 | schurig | kergoth`bbl: not sure if this is enought to write an SD driver for OZ |
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| 13:32.36 | cmartin | killefiz: ping |
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| 13:37.58 | killefiz | cmartin: pong |
| 13:42.58 | cmartin | killefiz: schau mal auf forum.opensimpad.org |
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| 13:46.06 | killefiz | cmartin: hmm - a lot of space wasted imo |
| 13:47.13 | treke|home | ~lart the germans |
| 13:47.37 | treke|home | schurig: That links nothing new :) |
| 13:47.50 | killefiz | ibot: make treke learn german |
| 13:47.51 | | make: *** No rule to make target `treke learn german'. Stop. |
| 13:48.46 | killefiz | treke|home: join #opie.de ;) |
| 13:48.56 | treke|home | hehe |
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| 13:52.04 | killefiz | cmartin: comparison: http://killefiz.de/forum1.jpg vs. http://killefiz.de/forum2.jpg |
| 13:52.32 | killefiz | i like the 2nd option much better |
| 13:53.24 | schurig | treke|home: it was new to me (and to dwmw2, from whom I got the link on #mtd) |
| 13:55.31 | treke|home | oh well. Got to go to work before my car gets towed |
| 13:59.36 | pb_ | Sounds like the best plan. |
| 14:07.00 | cmartin | killefiz: no problem |
| 14:13.48 | killefiz | cmartin: ahh - much better |
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| 14:17.30 | killefiz | cmartin: any ide on how to "migrate" from the old forum? |
| 14:18.49 | cmartin | killefiz: working on that |
| 14:19.19 | cmartin | killefiz: i do want to change the phpbb logo with the simpad-linux logo |
| 14:22.51 | kergoth | yo |
| 14:23.06 | treke | mornin kergoth |
| 14:23.12 | mithro | morning kergoth |
| 14:23.13 | Twiun | hey |
| 14:23.15 | kergoth | ibot: monday |
| 14:23.16 | | i heard monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon, or a day requiring the use of large amounts of drugs |
| 14:23.33 | schurig | ibot: friday |
| 14:23.34 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 14:23.37 | amnesia | i thought its friday |
| 14:23.48 | pb_ | hey kergoth |
| 14:23.51 | schurig | ibot: thursday |
| 14:23.51 | | Thursday sucks, because it isnt friday (See friday). |
| 14:23.51 | amnesia | friday i am in love |
| 14:24.01 | schurig | ibot: tuesday |
| 14:24.02 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday), or a day in which there are no meetings |
| 14:24.08 | schurig | ibot: wednesday |
| 14:24.09 | | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 14:24.11 | kergoth | hmm, /me has tuesday meetings |
| 14:24.19 | schurig | ibot: saturday |
| 14:24.19 | | saturday is probably the only day of the week that doesn't suck. |
| 14:24.25 | schurig | ibot: sunday |
| 14:24.26 | | Sunday sucks, because tomorrow is monday (See monday). |
| 14:24.33 | killefiz | kergoth: missing tech support already? |
| 14:24.41 | kergoth | killefiz: oh hell no :) |
| 14:25.13 | schurig | kergoth: hm, my screen is pitch black. How can I enter a letter into Winword? |
| 14:25.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 14:25.50 | treke | schurig: its easy. walk out into the middle of the street, and shoot yourself |
| 14:26.27 | schurig | # cat & dog |
| 14:26.27 | schurig | dog: No such file or directory |
| 14:26.33 | kergoth | heheh |
| 14:26.35 | schurig | :-) |
| 14:27.21 | schurig | kergoth: did you see the link to the SD pdf document above? Is this news to you or old, boring stuff? |
| 14:28.01 | schurig | http://polysat.calpoly.edu/documents_cp2/cdh/data_sheets/toshiba_m1283bx.pdf |
| 14:28.03 | kergoth | oh, yeah, that was on the oz news page a while back |
| 14:29.30 | treke | shit |
| 14:29.35 | treke | my monitor is wigging out |
| 14:30.10 | treke | this is not a good start of a monday |
| 14:30.32 | kergoth | doesnt bode well for the rest of the day, eh |
| 14:31.01 | schurig | treke: use ssh |
| 14:31.13 | schurig | treke: one monitor is enought |
| 14:31.18 | treke | ? |
| 14:31.30 | treke | this is my one monitor |
| 14:31.32 | schurig | one monitor to control them all |
| 14:31.40 | schurig | treke: use ssh from your zaurus |
| 14:31.51 | treke | uhm... yeah |
| 14:33.50 | kergoth | i should defrag the windows partition, maybe thats why its taking an age to load outlook |
| 14:34.37 | treke | evolution is your friend |
| 14:34.45 | treke | too bad it involves paying the ass muppets |
| 14:37.12 | schurig | three zaurii to the developers under the sky, seven for the users in their halls of stone, nine to mortal managers doomed to die, one for the white kergoth on his throne. One Zaurus to rule them all, one wellenreiter to find them all, one iwconfig to bring them all and in networks to bind them all, in the land openzaurus, were the ipks lie. |
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| 14:37.33 | treke | one ipaq to kick all their asses |
| 14:37.50 | Twiun | schurig: nice one ;) |
| 14:37.57 | Twiun | schurig: stick it up on the wiki |
| 14:38.32 | schurig | Twiun: I'm putting this hereby into the public domain, put it on the wiki yourself :-) |
| 14:38.42 | Twiun | bah |
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| 14:41.08 | treke | Twiun: please write it and add it to oe |
| 14:42.17 | treke | kergoth: anything get lost in buildroot? |
| 14:42.26 | killefiz | schurig: for the sake of unproductive discussions - isn't zauri the right plural of zaurus? |
| 14:42.37 | kergoth | lost? |
| 14:42.43 | treke | kergoth: yes in the disk crash |
| 14:43.01 | kergoth | there was a disk crash on bkbits? |
| 14:43.05 | schurig | killefiz: dunno, never learnd latin in school. |
| 14:43.14 | treke | kergoth: bkbits was down all weekend because of it |
| 14:43.17 | Twiun | schurig, treke: http://www.openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/LOTZ |
| 14:43.31 | kergoth | treke: i'd have to assume not, since i didnt get an email from them |
| 14:44.03 | treke | kergoth: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.2/1441.html |
| 14:44.06 | schurig | my "bk push" this morning worked without problems |
| 14:44.11 | Twiun | talking of defragging drives... my linux part is starting to make the same seeking noises |
| 14:46.30 | cmartin | killefiz: just made a change to the forums area of opensimpad.org - check if this would be a viable transition method. |
| 14:46.57 | Twiun | kergoth: who runs oe.org's wiki? |
| 14:47.01 | kergoth | nodaq |
| 14:47.02 | kergoth | ndoa |
| 14:47.04 | kergoth | gah |
| 14:47.05 | kergoth | noda. |
| 14:47.06 | Twiun | hehe |
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| 14:47.34 | Twiun | cool - I need him to erase my user - something went wrong when I registered |
| 14:51.13 | kergoth | schurig: you put your version of ipkg-make-index.py somewhere? |
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| 14:51.46 | kergoth | hey ben. |
| 14:51.52 | icefox | hi kergoth |
| 14:52.00 | treke | why the hell does ipkg-build hang |
| 14:52.06 | kergoth | it doesnt like you |
| 14:52.12 | icefox | sex |
| 14:52.31 | schurig | kergoth: not yet, should it put it into OZ/scripts for now? |
| 14:52.37 | treke | kergoth: keeps hanging a ncurses-term. Taking 99% cpu time :p |
| 14:52.50 | schurig | treke: it doesn't hang, it just dead-slow. |
| 14:52.59 | kergoth | schurig: thatd be fine, or toss it on openzaurus.sf.net so we can use it for the feed updates :) |
| 14:53.34 | schurig | kergoth: toss it to openzaurus.sf.net? Do I have access to this? |
| 14:53.50 | kergoth | schurig: hmm i dont recall, whats your sf acct name? |
| 14:54.31 | schurig | kergoth: you did not yet add "HolgerSchurig" to the list of developers |
| 14:55.01 | schurig | or admins |
| 14:55.06 | kergoth | k, doing so now (for both oz and oe, since both web areas are hosted on sf) |
| 14:55.24 | schurig | kergoth: it does not yet contain checkdupe support ... so this is still dead-slow |
| 14:55.35 | treke | schurig: so how long should it take ? |
| 14:56.23 | schurig | treke: my current version uses the Packages file a cache. It only loads the package-info from an *.ipk file if it changes version or size. This make the package generation in case of file changes VERY fast, e.g. 1 second. |
| 14:56.43 | schurig | with 432 ipks in the feed |
| 14:57.06 | treke | schurig: this isnt generating the package file. It was generating the package that took about 4 minutes |
| 14:57.40 | kergoth | hehe, dontcha love interweaving conversations? |
| 14:57.48 | kergoth | treke: your problem is mkipkg |
| 14:58.01 | treke | kergoth: Need to make clean on something? |
| 14:58.04 | kergoth | treke: It doesnt handle a certain, most common, case well. I never bothered rearchitecting it |
| 14:58.07 | kergoth | nope, just wait. |
| 14:58.10 | treke | ah |
| 14:58.36 | schurig | kergoth: ok, ssh into openzaurus.sf.net works, where should I put the ipkg-make-index.py & ipkg.py ? |
| 14:59.07 | kergoth | schurig: what groups are you in? |
| 14:59.39 | schurig | kergoth: ah, the groups are still old: "users pgpforwarder blob kbarcode pgpforwarder blob kbarcode" |
| 14:59.51 | kergoth | k, hold |
| 15:00.06 | schurig | guess i have to wait several minutes until SF updates it's NIS server? |
| 15:01.29 | Twiun | Policy question: should I use VERBOSE=no in rcS to mean use the framebuffer progress indicator? |
| 15:02.36 | schurig | Twiun: maybe it should be "VERBOSE=fb" or so would be better, VERBOSE=no should be exactly this ???? |
| 15:03.12 | schurig | waw, typing in a sentence and then changing the line just halfways makes interesting english ... |
| 15:03.14 | kergoth | verbose affects numerous things all over, i'm tempted to say we use a new env var for it |
| 15:03.20 | kergoth | s/env var/defaults var/ |
| 15:03.35 | Twiun | ok, FBPROGRESS anyone? |
| 15:03.49 | schurig | kergoth: now I'm in group openzaurus, where to put the file? |
| 15:03.58 | treke | Twiun: commit |
| 15:04.00 | treke | Twiun: now |
| 15:04.00 | kergoth | one more policy choice, do we enable it when the var isnt set to anything, or vice versa :) |
| 15:04.09 | Twiun | treke: eh? |
| 15:04.29 | kergoth | schurig: /home/groups/o/op/openzaurus/ perhaps, or within htdocs. there's an ipkg-make-index out there currently, i dont recall where :) |
| 15:04.30 | Twiun | kergoth: good question - I'd say enable unless told otherwise |
| 15:04.34 | treke | kergoth: or make it a compile time decision |
| 15:05.15 | Twiun | treke: hmmm, not easy, having it at all means changing most init.d scripts |
| 15:05.18 | schurig | $ find -name "ipkg-make-ind*" |
| 15:05.18 | schurig | find: ./htdocs/official/unstable/feed/old/bfl-old: Permission denied |
| 15:05.19 | schurig | ./htdocs/official/unstable/feed/old/ipkg/ipkg-utils/ipkg-make-index |
| 15:05.19 | schurig | ./htdocs/official/unstable/feed/old/ipkg/ipkg-utils/ipkg-make-index.py |
| 15:05.20 | schurig | ./htdocs/ipkg-make-index |
| 15:05.38 | schurig | so right in htdocs? Ugly. |
| 15:05.39 | Twiun | treke: it's not as if its a big thing anyway ;) |
| 15:05.41 | kergoth | treke: compiletime choice is orthagonal, compiletime *should* only change the defaults *file*, the default behavior is independent |
| 15:05.47 | kergoth | schurig: or create someplace better to put it :) |
| 15:05.59 | Twiun | treke: total size of lib+binary is about 30k |
| 15:06.37 | treke | Twiun: what needs to be done in the init scripts? Couldnt it be done within init itself? |
| 15:06.55 | kergoth | Twiun: if your startup scripts are even in the package, make the defaults var disable it, so make it NOFBPROGRESS or something to represent that |
| 15:07.11 | kergoth | treke: yes it could |
| 15:07.29 | Twiun | kergoth: init could keep track of things like individual package reconfigurations? |
| 15:07.30 | schurig | kergoth: I put it to the other file in htdocs, It's not my structure after all ... |
| 15:07.57 | kergoth | schurig: k. its a mess, i'll reorganize at some point.. |
| 15:08.32 | kergoth | Twiun: no, init could keep track of display, enable/disable of fb output could be picked up by it, so that your 'tools' that do them wouldnt actually do anything |
| 15:08.43 | kergoth | Twiun: basically, the display server could be affected by the option directly |
| 15:08.50 | kergoth | whether thats preferred or not, i dont know |
| 15:08.53 | kergoth | just saying its a possibility |
| 15:09.02 | schurig | kergoth: PLEASE note: you don |
| 15:09.06 | schurig | 't specify redirection anymore |
| 15:09.06 | Twiun | kergoth: hmmm |
| 15:09.12 | kergoth | schurig: er? |
| 15:09.19 | schurig | kergoth: just ipkg-make-index.py directoryname |
| 15:09.23 | kergoth | oh okay |
| 15:09.25 | kergoth | cool |
| 15:09.33 | schurig | kergoth: not ipkg-make-index.py directoryname >/directoryname/Packages |
| 15:09.51 | kergoth | right, gotcha. i doubt anyone needs it named anything but Packages anyway |
| 15:10.08 | schurig | kergoth: and it emits it's text now via stdout, so if you redirect ... |
| 15:10.19 | kergoth | k |
| 15:11.52 | Twiun | kergoth: I must be too hot, I can't visualise how init would do that - atm I was thinking of adding a function to the default set that tests for the progmond fifo and echoes commands to it if it exists |
| 15:12.01 | Twiun | kergoth: sorry if I'm being a little dense today |
| 15:12.42 | kergoth | Twiun: okay, gui server takes the data from the fifo and outputs it to the screen. if a file exists/doesnt exist in /etc, it receives the messages but doesnt *do* anything with them |
| 15:13.10 | kergoth | Twiun: thereby moving the control over whether its used or not out of the scripts |
| 15:13.28 | Twiun | ahhh |
| 15:14.00 | Twiun | kergoth: ok, that works |
| 15:14.24 | Twiun | kergoth: I hope checking for the file on daemon startup will be enough? |
| 15:14.29 | kergoth | like i said, whether thats what we do is a policy decision, but i think thats the sort of thing treke was alluding to |
| 15:14.33 | kergoth | should be |
| 15:14.38 | kergoth | maybe re-check for it on HUP? |
| 15:14.46 | Twiun | good idea |
| 15:14.56 | treke | treke was just randmonly posing ideas. it is to early to think coherently |
| 15:15.08 | Twiun | mind you, I wasn't thinking of the daemon surviving init |
| 15:15.18 | Twiun | daemon up... progress... daemon down |
| 15:15.35 | kergoth | even so, just for flexibility |
| 15:15.44 | Twiun | ok |
| 15:16.10 | mithro | what have people been up to recently? |
| 15:16.12 | kergoth | it *is* a daemon, so it should behave like one, with semi-expected behaviors |
| 15:16.17 | kergoth | hey mithro |
| 15:16.28 | kergoth | not much here, still dealing with the new location/job transition |
| 15:16.33 | Twiun | mithro: getting on kergoth's nerves, as usual ;) |
| 15:16.49 | mithro | i've been working on my tv convergence box instead of my c700 |
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| 15:23.24 | treke | oh wow |
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| 15:27.30 | kergoth | treke: ? |
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| 15:47.07 | treke | bleh. how do people use 1024x768 any more |
| 15:47.19 | kergoth | heh, good question |
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| 15:49.14 | treke | image flickers a lot, but at least it doesnt visibly shake like my crt was doing |
| 15:50.03 | cyn | I dunno, if lcds were cost effective enough that I could get, say, 3 high quality ones (tho not necc. high res [tho 1280x1024 +]) for like $500 I'd totally do it |
| 15:50.24 | cyn | wallmount and xinerama those puppies |
| 15:50.27 | kergoth | hehe, thats true |
| 15:50.58 | cyn | ya, but not for $500 |
| 15:51.09 | cyn | for $3-somethin would be cool |
| 15:51.13 | kergoth | i dislike 1280x1024 due to the odd aspect ratio |
| 15:51.26 | treke | you dislike everything |
| 15:51.31 | kergoth | good point |
| 15:51.31 | cyn | its 5x4 |
| 15:51.47 | cyn | I dunno, aspect ratio doesn't often bother me |
| 15:52.00 | cyn | tho I prefer it to be closer to 1.5x1 aspect |
| 15:52.01 | schurig | kergoth doesn't dislike kergoth |
| 15:52.03 | schurig | or? |
| 15:52.06 | cyn | or 2x1 |
| 15:52.08 | kergoth | use 1280x1024 for a while, then go to 1024 |
| 15:52.14 | kergoth | you'll notice things are ..stretched.. |
| 15:52.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:52.21 | kergoth | or vice versa |
| 15:52.22 | treke | better yet |
| 15:52.29 | treke | use 1280x1024 for a while |
| 15:52.34 | treke | then never use 1024 again |
| 15:52.38 | cyn | heh |
| 15:52.46 | cyn | and you'll NEVER notice things are stretched! |
| 15:52.47 | kergoth | heh, you'll notice the same thing going to 1600x1200 :) |
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| 15:52.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:53.02 | cyn | well i normally run 1600x1200 on my desktop |
| 15:53.15 | cyn | I changed it to 1280 this morning because my neck was hurting from leanin forward heh |
| 15:53.31 | treke | looking back and forth, they have never seemed that different |
| 15:53.41 | kergoth | its noticable |
| 15:53.45 | kergoth | maybe i'm just a picky bastard |
| 15:53.47 | kergoth | that could be |
| 15:53.47 | kergoth | heheh |
| 15:53.54 | treke | you are |
| 15:54.00 | treke | particularly the bastard part |
| 15:54.16 | kergoth | yeah, even googlisms said chris larson was a pretentious bastard |
| 15:54.43 | cyn | stuff isn't stretched, it's just your screen real estate is a different aspect |
| 15:55.02 | cyn | so yer windows will be too wide or too thin, whichever way it goes |
| 15:55.26 | cyn | it's monday before noon, I don't wanna deal with even simple fractions atm :P |
| 15:56.51 | kergoth | god bills suck. i need to pay my mortgage company $1600 tomorrow |
| 15:56.53 | kergoth | bastards |
| 16:05.12 | treke | suckage |
| 16:05.22 | treke | hopefully you have 1600 dollars |
| 16:05.56 | kergoth | yeah, do, thankfully |
| 16:10.16 | cmartin | mickeyl: seen the new forum at opensimpad.org? |
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| 16:12.04 | mickeyl | cmartin: no. I'm in construction mode |
| 16:12.06 | mickeyl | aaaaaaaaargh |
| 16:12.11 | kergoth | ? |
| 16:12.12 | mickeyl | i'm a fool |
| 16:12.38 | mickeyl | just seen that in the motherboard package there are two backplates which have to be installed _prior_ to mounting the motherboard |
| 16:12.42 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 16:12.45 | kergoth | doh |
| 16:12.53 | mickeyl | grrr |
| 16:13.04 | mickeyl | why can't they put that on _top_ of the instructions |
| 16:13.28 | mickeyl | now on to removing that mb from the chassis again |
| 16:14.05 | mickey|building | xeon fun |
| 16:14.10 | cmartin | mickeyl: see forum.opensimpad.org |
| 16:14.55 | mickey|building | aaah phpbb |
| 16:15.03 | mickey|building | nice - definitly better than before :) |
| 16:16.29 | cmartin | mickey|building: this is a typo3 plugin version of phpbb - so we can use the same user DB for the community functions in typo3 ;-) |
| 16:17.51 | cmartin | mickey|building: i just need to get the posts from the old system in the new one - should i weed out some of those non-simpad spec. posts? |
| 16:19.23 | mickey|building | cmartin: yes that would be nice. and please could you make my post "sticky" somewhere ? |
| 16:19.32 | cmartin | :) |
| 16:19.38 | mickey|building | ;) |
| 16:19.51 | mickey|building | bbl... going to install those damn processor backplates... |
| 16:20.03 | cmartin | i'n gone too - bbl |
| 16:20.09 | cmartin | s/i'm |
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| 16:22.38 | bipolar | heh |
| 16:22.42 | bipolar | This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: |
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| 16:23.23 | bipolar | The mail list prog must be rather forgiving if it just bounced jason now. |
| 16:23.45 | kergoth | heh. |
| 16:25.46 | treke | more likely sharp just deleted his account |
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| 16:31.04 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: !!! |
| 16:31.08 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i've been going crazy fucking with .18 |
| 16:31.09 | TheMasterMind1 | finally figured shit out and it turns out the hybrid guy had it all worked out in his patch |
| 16:31.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm gonna split it into three pieces. one is the font patch that we have for .6 but he changed it so it patches .18 |
| 16:32.05 | TheMasterMind1 | two is and older jffs2. i'm not sure why he backreved it. i'll try and ask him. but i know right now it throws a load of errors when i boot. jffs2_scan_erase() or something has problems |
| 16:32.32 | kergoth | heh, we can pull latest jffs2 from mtd cvs |
| 16:32.35 | TheMasterMind1 | and three is the adding of sharp-collie.c which probes the flash and sets up the partitioning scheme |
| 16:32.39 | TheMasterMind1 | thats the important one |
| 16:32.50 | kergoth | ah, sharp didnt pull forward the mtd driver? |
| 16:32.52 | TheMasterMind1 | the way sharp did it was really stupid. no partitions, you just give hex addresses in menuconfig |
| 16:32.56 | TheMasterMind1 | for both ram, AND ROM |
| 16:33.00 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:33.10 | kergoth | oh right, sharp-collie was ours, tim hacked that so we could have jffs2 |
| 16:33.11 | TheMasterMind1 | you know how ram worked, but they copied and pasted and did the same thing for rom |
| 16:33.35 | TheMasterMind1 | anyway, i got it to boot yesterday |
| 16:33.37 | kergoth | we can actually use the cfi driver, since the flash chips in teh Z support CFI for probing |
| 16:33.46 | TheMasterMind1 | really? |
| 16:33.47 | kergoth | but the cfi driver doesnt automatically unlock blocks, so we'd have to add that |
| 16:33.50 | kergoth | i never got around to it |
| 16:33.53 | TheMasterMind1 | how come our .19 doesn't have that selected then |
| 16:33.55 | kergoth | yeah, cfi picks up the chips just fine |
| 16:33.58 | kergoth | but its all read only |
| 16:34.02 | kergoth | cause it doesnt unlock teh blocks |
| 16:34.04 | TheMasterMind1 | we have old noncfi selected |
| 16:34.06 | kergoth | so shit hits the fan |
| 16:34.06 | TheMasterMind1 | ah i see |
| 16:34.08 | kergoth | yeah, we do |
| 16:34.17 | TheMasterMind1 | we can do that in .19 |
| 16:34.17 | kergoth | cause i never finished, figured it was low priority .. went with what worked for now |
| 16:34.30 | TheMasterMind1 | oh and i also got a working collie image |
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| 16:34.44 | TheMasterMind1 | put it in /unofficial/experimental/3.2.5rc1/ |
| 16:34.47 | TheMasterMind1 | with a feed |
| 16:34.54 | TheMasterMind1 | or unofficial/unstable/ |
| 16:34.55 | TheMasterMind1 | one of those |
| 16:35.12 | kergoth | cool. opie 0.9.9 or head? |
| 16:35.24 | TheMasterMind1 | 0.9.9 |
| 16:35.25 | kergoth | 0.9.9 is what'll be in 3.2.5, or 1.0 if we wait for it |
| 16:35.26 | kergoth | cool |
| 16:35.26 | TheMasterMind1 | head won't compile |
| 16:35.37 | TheMasterMind1 | qte 2.3.6 came out too so i'll play with that |
| 16:35.43 | TheMasterMind1 | and busybox fixed up libbb very nicely |
| 16:35.55 | TheMasterMind1 | i can now compile libbb and libunarchive and link em into ipkg |
| 16:35.58 | TheMasterMind1 | to use their functions |
| 16:36.05 | TheMasterMind1 | no need to pull out code from busybox |
| 16:36.11 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:36.13 | kergoth | thats much cleaner |
| 16:36.44 | pb_ | TheMasterMind1: did you ever figure out how to sync the two ipkg repositories? |
| 16:37.10 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 16:37.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll let jamey do it |
| 16:37.16 | kergoth | yeah, you ditch cvs cause it cant deal with it |
| 16:37.21 | kergoth | heheh |
| 16:37.49 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to get .18 working so i can read hp5 |
| 16:38.09 | pb_ | kergoth: hah |
| 16:39.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i still dont' get why this guy backrev'd jffs2.. maybe he just took out all the lineo bits |
| 16:43.28 | kergoth | CCACHE := ${@os.popen('which ccache').readline().strip()} |
| 16:43.28 | kergoth | CC = ${CCACHE}${CROSS}gcc |
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| 16:46.12 | TheMasterMind1 | hey beattie |
| 16:46.22 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 16:47.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: this patch modifies sa1100-flash.c and adds a partitions scheme for collie. thats what i tried yesterday but it didn't work for some reason, hopefully this will |
| 16:47.12 | TheMasterMind1 | i thought i saw sharp-collie in here but i don't anymore |
| 16:49.57 | TheMasterMind1 | collie_sharp.c |
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| 16:50.18 | kergoth | hey Speedy2 |
| 16:50.23 | Speedy2 | Hey kergoth. How goes it? |
| 16:50.33 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: we need to see if 2.3.6 qte breaks our keyboard patches |
| 16:50.43 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: check the changelog |
| 16:50.48 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: see what they say changed, i'm curious |
| 16:53.16 | TheMasterMind1 | they who |
| 16:53.17 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 16:53.19 | kergoth | tt |
| 16:53.19 | TheMasterMind1 | qte |
| 16:53.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:53.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm stuck in kernel mode |
| 16:53.21 | kergoth | yeah |
| 16:53.32 | TheMasterMind1 | they didn't change much, someone was talking about it yesterday |
| 16:54.46 | Speedy2 | bbl |
| 16:55.20 | kergoth | not surprising, they didnt change much going to 2.3.5 either |
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| 16:56.48 | bipolar | kergoth: Has the makefile for Opie been changed so that it downloads .9.9 instead of head? |
| 16:56.57 | kergoth | bipolar: its configurable |
| 16:57.03 | kergoth | bipolar: afaik mickey added it as a config option |
| 16:57.20 | bipolar | kergoth: cool. I need to build a new image. |
| 16:57.40 | bipolar | kergoth: something is goofy with my current one. It's real slow for some reason |
| 16:57.45 | kergoth | odd. |
| 16:58.20 | bipolar | kergoth`lunch: yeah. I built it about a week ago, so it's time for an upgrade anyway :) |
| 16:58.25 | kergoth`lunch | hmm |
| 16:58.41 | mithro | gnight |
| 16:58.48 | bipolar | mithro: gnight |
| 16:59.16 | Ociocio | what package does oz use for socket cf+ lp wlan support? |
| 16:59.27 | mithro | kergoth`lunch: going to get sdl working with res changing sometime soon |
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| 17:04.35 | TheMasterMind1 | Ociocio: we have a patched build of the orinoco modules |
| 17:04.46 | TheMasterMind1 | to support spectrum and monitor mode |
| 17:05.21 | Ociocio | oic |
| 17:05.24 | Ociocio | damn |
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| 17:07.18 | Ociocio | ive been trying to get familiar to recognize my card, ive gotten it to say what card it is (added it to /etc/pcmcia/config) but i dont know how to upload the rom (which im only assuming is the problem) |
| 17:14.37 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: how do you see how big the image was before it gets padded |
| 17:21.19 | andersee | kergoth`lunch: seen this? |
| 17:21.24 | andersee | kergoth`lunch: http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html |
| 17:22.21 | TheMasterMind1 | dietlibc |
| 17:22.21 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 17:24.47 | TheMasterMind1 | balh, isn't there any way to kill a hung umount process |
| 17:25.23 | TheMasterMind1 | root 22437 82.2 0.1 1224 404 pts/8 R 13:11 10:32 umount /sandisk/ |
| 17:25.48 | Ociocio | kill -9 not working? |
| 17:26.10 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 17:27.03 | Ociocio | wow, i think you may have to put old yeller down |
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| 17:28.22 | beattie | hey TheMasterMind1 |
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| 17:32.16 | TMM1 | grr |
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| 17:33.09 | beattie | hey TheMasterMind1 |
| 17:33.12 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth`lunch: for some reason all my images are filling up the entire 16 mb |
| 17:33.13 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: hey |
| 17:33.20 | TheMasterMind1 | beattie: i got a set of patches that makes it all work |
| 17:33.29 | beattie | great |
| 17:33.34 | TheMasterMind1 | its the patches from the guy who made the hybrid rom |
| 17:34.12 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to create a rom that doesn't take so much space though |
| 17:35.21 | TheMasterMind1 | are we using 4x6 or 5x8 currently |
| 17:35.22 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know |
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| 17:36.17 | Ociocio | treke: i may have found someone else willing to test a 3955 OZ build |
| 17:36.48 | rusekd | that's me |
| 17:37.59 | Ociocio | perhaps hes not active right now |
| 17:39.11 | rusekd | ok |
| 17:39.45 | rusekd | Alright, I'm on the University of Michigan campus right now... I'm going to go watch the media circus |
| 17:39.51 | bipolar | has the battery switch funtionality been added to 2.4.19? |
| 17:39.56 | TheMasterMind1 | nope |
| 17:39.59 | bipolar | damnit |
| 17:40.02 | bipolar | :p |
| 17:40.03 | TheMasterMind1 | why |
| 17:40.12 | TheMasterMind1 | how do i build an image that isn't huge.. |
| 17:40.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i need to know how big the image is before padding first of all |
| 17:40.35 | TheMasterMind1 | is bkbits up yet |
| 17:40.42 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: I reeeely want the new jffs code thats in 2.4.19. |
| 17:40.53 | beattie | is that 100% real, or an artifact of the filesystem, like a CDROM is always 100% |
| 17:41.51 | TheMasterMind1 | its because its full afaik |
| 17:41.57 | TheMasterMind1 | you should be able to see free space |
| 17:42.06 | TheMasterMind1 | because i'm getting "no space on device" errors |
| 17:42.09 | TheMasterMind1 | when stuff tries to run |
| 17:42.24 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: heh, i'll put latest jffs2 into .18 |
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| 17:42.52 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: is that what we're doing now? Are we going to use .18 instead of .19? |
| 17:42.59 | TheMasterMind1 | for now, yes |
| 17:43.04 | TheMasterMind1 | until .19 is fixed up and tested |
| 17:43.26 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: well, thats cool. I don't think there are many changes between those verisons. |
| 17:43.32 | TheMasterMind1 | prolly not |
| 17:43.49 | treke | there probably were :) |
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| 17:44.11 | beattie | TheMasterMind1: are your patches in the bitkeeper tree, or can I get a copy? |
| 17:44.34 | treke | bipolar: remember there was 6 months in between .18 and .19 |
| 17:45.03 | TheMasterMind1 | if i can push, i will push em |
| 17:45.07 | TheMasterMind1 | is bkbits up |
| 17:45.10 | treke | yes |
| 17:45.13 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 17:45.25 | beattie | I'm cloneing right now |
| 17:45.25 | bipolar | treke: yeah. but how much affects a Zaurus use? |
| 17:45.25 | TheMasterMind1 | how do i get a list of files that i changed |
| 17:45.33 | noidd | there - much better :-) |
| 17:45.52 | TheMasterMind1 | list files list files how how how |
| 17:47.13 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun[afk]: here? |
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| 17:47.40 | TheMasterMind1 | wb pb_ |
| 17:48.25 | pb_ | re |
| 17:49.08 | noidd | hey kergoth |
| 17:49.28 | kergoth | this walking to/from work thing in heat that i'm nowhere near used to, could be a problem |
| 17:49.36 | kergoth | hey noidd |
| 17:49.44 | noidd | you moved somewhere hotter than before? |
| 17:49.47 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wb. how do i 1. list of files i changed and didn't commit. 2. see how big initrd is before pad |
| 17:50.02 | kergoth | if you see andersee, he was curious as to how you did your perl crosscompilation madness |
| 17:50.08 | kergoth | noidd: yes, MN -> TX |
| 17:50.13 | noidd | ick |
| 17:50.19 | noidd | well, in one week I go UK -> NC |
| 17:50.39 | noidd | so wet couldy cold weather to hot and humid 100+F temps |
| 17:50.40 | kergoth | permanently, or just a trip? |
| 17:50.44 | kergoth | fun |
| 17:50.45 | noidd | perminantly |
| 17:50.51 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: bk pending = stuff you ci'd but didnt commit |
| 17:50.53 | TheMasterMind1 | well, nm number 2. added ls to Makefile |
| 17:50.58 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: didn't ci yet either |
| 17:51.07 | kergoth | if they're just modified, use bk -r diffs |
| 17:51.08 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf, why is it building such huge initrd |
| 17:51.10 | ljp_laptop | noidd: you working for redhat? |
| 17:51.11 | kergoth | then you see the changes as well as the files |
| 17:51.11 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ah right |
| 17:51.11 | noidd | kergoth: pita that bkbits eh? :-/ |
| 17:51.48 | noidd | andersee? gotcha |
| 17:51.54 | noidd | i'll keep an eye out for them |
| 17:52.05 | noidd | the method is going to change soon |
| 17:52.21 | noidd | I had to re-write it to get it in perl 5.8.1 and perl 5.9 (CVS) |
| 17:52.27 | andersee | noidd: hi |
| 17:52.32 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:52.35 | noidd | so I should use that method instead of the OZ specific |
| 17:52.40 | andersee | noidd: so it was accepted upstream? |
| 17:52.41 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:52.51 | noidd | I still can't blieve i've been given my own directory structure in perls sources :-) |
| 17:52.58 | noidd | heya andersee, whats up? |
| 17:53.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how do i pull in latest jffs2 into the kernel |
| 17:53.16 | noidd | andersee: yes - my patches are in bleadperl |
| 17:53.30 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: grab mtd cvs, i dont recall if they have a script in there for merging it into a kernel tree |
| 17:53.39 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: wonnderful |
| 17:53.42 | andersee | kergoth: Seen this? http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html |
| 17:53.47 | TheMasterMind1 | 14680064 |
| 17:53.53 | TheMasterMind1 | damn big initrd |
| 17:54.27 | kergoth | andersee: coool.. anyone played around with it in real world? confirmed sanity? |
| 17:54.40 | noidd | kergoth: I hear you have a C7x0 machine - worth moving to? |
| 17:54.48 | noidd | I hear the idsplay is shiny :-0 |
| 17:55.14 | pb_ | kergoth: joshua played with dropbear in familiar, said it seemed to work well. |
| 17:56.48 | kergoth | cool, ought to add it to the new buildsystem (no point in adding to the old) |
| 17:56.54 | kergoth | noidd: yep, they're very spiffy |
| 17:56.58 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: we're passing mkfs.jffs2 a --pad flag. any way to see how big image woulda been if we didn't do that? |
| 17:57.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: -p != -p # |
| 17:57.20 | kergoth | -p pads to next eraseblock, -p # pads to a given size |
| 17:57.29 | noidd | oh, is the new guildsystem comming on well then? |
| 17:57.41 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 17:57.52 | Ociocio | noidd: the c7x0 screen is about as bright as the ipaq h3955 |
| 17:57.56 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: the initrd.bin before pad is the same size as the flag to --pad in mkfs.jffs2 |
| 17:57.58 | TheMasterMind1 | what does that mean |
| 17:58.00 | kergoth | noidd: quite well, it builds tarballs or ipks of packages, follows interpackage dependencies, and we even have a lil autobuild daemon |
| 17:58.18 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: shouldnt mean anything. theres nothing to do in that case |
| 17:59.51 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm confused. i just wanna make it smaller! |
| 18:00.14 | kergoth | whats the problem? |
| 18:00.31 | TheMasterMind1 | my initrd on the zaurus is 16mb and i get not enough space errors |
| 18:00.53 | TheMasterMind1 | oh btw, i upped the cvs date on binutils and it seems to be working fine. any reason i shouldn't push |
| 18:00.53 | kergoth | okay, so dont install so much shit |
| 18:00.55 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:01.04 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: cross-binutils or binutils? |
| 18:01.12 | TheMasterMind1 | both |
| 18:01.12 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: and did you test a *kernel* compile with it? |
| 18:01.17 | TheMasterMind1 | yes |
| 18:01.24 | kergoth | then go ahead |
| 18:01.25 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 18:01.58 | TheMasterMind1 | agupta@nitrogen:/openzaurus/buildroot$ bkci packages/config.in |
| 18:01.58 | TheMasterMind1 | unsupported file type: SCCS/s.. (.) 0040775 |
| 18:02.00 | TheMasterMind1 | *mutter* |
| 18:02.50 | noidd | kergoth: should I move my packages in there then? |
| 18:03.18 | kergoth | noidd: well, you'd want to move your packages's dependencies first. all we have is glibc and ipkg so far :) not even all the build architecture tools |
| 18:03.53 | kergoth | we could really use a little script that yanks what it can from an old buildroot makefile and puts it into a .oe file, and anything it doenst understand gets stuffed in, but commented, for human review |
| 18:04.18 | ljp_laptop | does buildroot make a working c700 image? |
| 18:04.21 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:04.23 | TheMasterMind1 | openzaurus@openzaurus.bkbits.net's password: |
| 18:04.26 | ljp_laptop | groovey |
| 18:04.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: the key you gave me should be in.. is it using your local private key for it? ssh -v -v it |
| 18:06.10 | TheMasterMind1 | debug1: identity file /home/agupta/.ssh/identity type -1 |
| 18:06.10 | TheMasterMind1 | debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN' |
| 18:06.15 | TheMasterMind1 | debug1: identity file /home/agupta/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 |
| 18:06.16 | TheMasterMind1 | debug1: identity file /home/agupta/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 |
| 18:06.27 | ljp_laptop | do I need to make the ipks before an image? or will it make an image without ipks? |
| 18:06.40 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: image creation is independnet |
| 18:06.46 | ljp_laptop | ok. great |
| 18:06.46 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: and it builds an image from any arbitrary set of ipks |
| 18:06.51 | kergoth | wehther build by buildroot or not |
| 18:06.54 | noidd | ah, that sounds like a text processing job |
| 18:07.02 | noidd | gonna take a look, brb |
| 18:07.04 | kergoth | noidd: yep, indeed |
| 18:07.04 | kergoth | k |
| 18:07.51 | noidd | ibot, openembedded? |
| 18:07.51 | | noidd: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 18:08.04 | kergoth | noidd: openembedded.bkbits.net, openembedded.org |
| 18:08.21 | kergoth | there are two bk repositories |
| 18:08.29 | kergoth | oe contains thte buildsystem proper, packages contains the package metadata |
| 18:08.36 | noidd | oh, |
| 18:08.44 | noidd | seperation between church and state, heh |
| 18:09.06 | noidd | bk clone http://openembedded.bkbits.net/oe oe |
| 18:09.08 | noidd | whee |
| 18:09.30 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: ok. first how do i get ssh working and second how do i get the initrd smaller |
| 18:10.53 | kergoth | ssh working? |
| 18:10.57 | ljp_laptop | think I've got the jist of things... need to tweak tmake to 1.11 |
| 18:11.03 | kergoth | initrd smaller.. dont install so much shit. |
| 18:11.04 | kergoth | simple enough. |
| 18:11.14 | kergoth | tmake? for what |
| 18:11.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:11.19 | noidd | what is the second repository that contains the .oe files for apps? |
| 18:11.19 | ljp_laptop | qtopia |
| 18:11.27 | kergoth | noidd: 'packages' |
| 18:11.35 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: bkbits wants me to do password auth |
| 18:11.38 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: ah, yeah, add tmake to the system first |
| 18:11.44 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: yes, i heard you the first time when you pasted it |
| 18:11.53 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: so re-email me the key and i'll confirm its sane |
| 18:11.56 | ljp_laptop | its there, just needs a version/source tweak |
| 18:12.20 | noidd | got it |
| 18:12.21 | noidd | thanks |
| 18:12.33 | noidd | give us a while to have a poke about and i'll see what i can do |
| 18:13.58 | kergoth | noidd: k. compare say, content/glibc-2.3.1.oe to packages/glibc-2.3/Makefile |
| 18:16.31 | ljp_laptop | whats tslib for? |
| 18:17.08 | noidd | I was comparing that |
| 18:17.08 | bipolar | ljp_laptop: It provides a common interface for touch screens, IIRC |
| 18:17.37 | noidd | but confused as to what happens should someone not use the standard ./copnfigure ; make ; make install |
| 18:17.55 | noidd | still reverse engineering the current setup |
| 18:17.59 | kergoth | noidd: if you implement do_compile, it overrides the 'base' do_compile that you got from inheriting base |
| 18:18.09 | kergoth | noidd: and you can still call the original via base_do_compile |
| 18:18.13 | kergoth | its our inheritence mechanism |
| 18:18.21 | ljp_laptop | does c700 have sd? |
| 18:18.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:18.53 | ljp_laptop | wonderful trying to make a rom image for a device I dont have |
| 18:19.49 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm, i bet this zImage in the initrd is one of the problems |
| 18:23.05 | TheMasterMind1 | bah, damned dependencies |
| 18:24.23 | ljp_laptop | needs auto-dep |
| 18:25.43 | ljp_laptop | man, dsl sure would be handy about now.. heh |
| 18:27.39 | Ociocio | fsck dsl, its all about cable |
| 18:30.10 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how do i get a certain command run after sourcetrees have been extracted. |
| 18:30.29 | TheMasterMind1 | like an addition to stamp-sourcetrees but after it does its internal stuff based on $Sources |
| 18:31.58 | TheMasterMind1 | beh, screw it |
| 18:32.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll do it before building |
| 18:34.31 | kergoth | gah |
| 18:34.32 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: .18 now uses latest mtd/jffs2 from cvs :) |
| 18:35.47 | TheMasterMind1 | alright, one remaining issue. how do i get it to not install the zImage into the initrd but not break all module dependencies at the same time |
| 18:36.43 | TheMasterMind1 | drivers/mtd/mtdlink.o(.text+0x490): In function `put_mtd_device': |
| 18:36.43 | TheMasterMind1 | : undefined reference to `BUG_ON' |
| 18:36.54 | TheMasterMind1 | : undefined reference to `unlikely' |
| 18:36.55 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 18:37.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:37.55 | TheMasterMind1 | wow, its actually a function |
| 18:38.02 | TheMasterMind1 | i was hoping it was an unclosed comment |
| 18:38.16 | TheMasterMind1 | if (unlikely(!mtdblk->cache_data)) { |
| 18:38.23 | pb_ | yeah, it's a macro. |
| 18:38.34 | pb_ | expands to __builtin_expect() if you have a new enough compiler. |
| 18:38.52 | TheMasterMind1 | damn compilers |
| 18:39.14 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm using 2.95.4 |
| 18:39.18 | TheMasterMind1 | not new enough? |
| 18:39.26 | TheMasterMind1 | what about BUG_ON |
| 18:39.32 | pb_ | check <linux/compiler.h>, that's where the definition is meant to be. |
| 18:39.44 | pb_ | it should be defined for all compiler versions. |
| 18:40.03 | pb_ | BUG_ON is in <linux/kernel.h>; it's a negative assertion. |
| 18:40.04 | TheMasterMind1 | ya its there |
| 18:40.12 | pb_ | ie BUG_ON(cond) -> if (!cond) BUG() |
| 18:40.21 | pb_ | er, if (cond) BUG() |
| 18:40.34 | TheMasterMind1 | bug_on isn't, but unlikely is in compiler.h |
| 18:40.37 | TheMasterMind1 | maybe its not included |
| 18:40.54 | pb_ | could be. |
| 18:41.11 | pb_ | with 2.95 it should expand (ultimately) to nothing. |
| 18:42.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll have to copy the def for bug_on from somewhere then. but unlikely should be working |
| 18:42.49 | pb_ | #define BUG_ON(condition) do { if (unlikely((condition)!=0)) BUG(); } while(0) |
| 18:42.49 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.49 | pb_ | # |
| 18:43.18 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 18:43.19 | TheMasterMind1 | thanks |
| 18:43.34 | pb_ | ah, unlikely() strikes again! |
| 18:43.46 | TheMasterMind1 | time for some craftly patching |
| 18:45.44 | kergoth | added zlib and dropbear to the new buildsystem, and ran into our friend configure |
| 18:45.54 | kergoth | the good old setpgrp test failed |
| 18:47.21 | TheMasterMind1 | anyway to append something to the top of a file |
| 18:47.26 | TheMasterMind1 | like you can do echo "adfsf" >> file |
| 18:47.28 | TheMasterMind1 | for the end |
| 18:47.43 | kergoth | move it, echo new data, append the old file to the new one |
| 18:47.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:47.47 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds good |
| 18:48.04 | TheMasterMind1 | can i do, #ifndef BUG_ON |
| 18:49.42 | kergoth | why not? |
| 18:50.04 | kergoth | ibot: seen schurig |
| 18:50.05 | | schurig <~schurig@p5080B3D8.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 2h 58m 2s ago, saying: 'or?'. |
| 18:54.41 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: is there a reason we're putting zImages into initrd.bin |
| 18:54.41 | treke | oh kergoth |
| 18:54.49 | treke | you see the autoconf article on freshmeat? |
| 18:55.07 | treke | http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/ |
| 18:55.08 | bipolar | kergoth: ftp://ftp.gnome.org is down, but http://ftp.gnome.org is up. I changed pkgconfig to use http and all went well. Perhaps it should be changed to use http all the time? Http seems to work more reliably to me. |
| 18:55.15 | treke | " Stop the autoconf insanity! Why we need a new build system." |
| 18:55.38 | ljp_laptop | qmake |
| 18:55.40 | ljp_laptop | :D |
| 18:55.53 | TheMasterMind1 | YES. it built!! |
| 18:55.54 | TheMasterMind1 | haha |
| 18:56.30 | TheMasterMind1 | one smaller initrd.bin and we're all set |
| 18:56.33 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: Thats wonderful! Fantastic! Amazing! Teriffic! Wow! W00t! Yay! |
| 18:56.40 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: what built again? :p |
| 18:57.07 | kergoth | bipolar: http is a more efficient protocol in general, less overhead. always prefer it. |
| 18:57.13 | kergoth | bipolar: so yes |
| 18:57.27 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: heh. 2.4.18 with mtd/jffs2 from cvs, smaller font, our cooler boot logo, and support for our jffs2 mtd partition |
| 18:57.42 | bipolar | TheMasterMind1: very awesome. Will it be in offical builds? |
| 18:58.01 | TheMasterMind1 | bipolar: i'll put it up in unofficial/ for now |
| 18:58.08 | TheMasterMind1 | but it'll be the basis for our next release |
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| 18:59.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i also still need to enable some of the more common stuff in the kernel. like networking and usb and such |
| 19:00.58 | ljp_laptop | networking and usb? whay would anyone want those |
| 19:01.17 | pb_ | buzzwords |
| 19:01.21 | ljp_laptop | hmm, my build didnt get too far |
| 19:02.00 | ljp_laptop | *sigh* |
| 19:03.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:04.13 | kergoth | how do i add an item to the beginning of a list object in python? its not append obviously.. wonder if there's a prepend method |
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| 19:06.23 | kergoth | ah there we go |
| 19:06.25 | kergoth | hey masticator |
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| 19:12.27 | TheMasterMind1 | still cant' push to bk |
| 19:12.28 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit |
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| 19:14.22 | TheMasterMind1 | XavierXeon: hey |
| 19:14.40 | lsmith | are there any known major issues with current testing? |
| 19:14.46 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: here? |
| 19:14.57 | XavierXeon | hi |
| 19:15.32 | TheMasterMind1 | uhoh |
| 19:16.02 | TheMasterMind1 | mtd patch overwrote one of our patches i think |
| 19:16.29 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i need to use the mtd script to patch the kernel sources, and THEN use one of the patches thats in defined in Sources |
| 19:17.28 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ew. |
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| 19:17.41 | treke | TheMasterMind1: yes |
| 19:18.02 | Neo|Work | Maybe I should learn python so that I know first hand why it actually sucks. :-)) |
| 19:18.10 | ljp_laptop | I suppose the kernel must be built before mtd |
| 19:18.20 | lsmith | i only heard good things about python |
| 19:18.25 | lsmith | i wonder why i dont use it |
| 19:18.26 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: the seperate 'mtd' package builds the mtd tools for x86, nothing kernel specific |
| 19:18.36 | kergoth | lsmith: laziness? :) |
| 19:18.42 | ljp_laptop | oh |
| 19:18.48 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
| 19:18.51 | lsmith | i guess .. |
| 19:18.58 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: what was that fix for orinoco 13e? |
| 19:18.59 | ljp_laptop | already got that.. |
| 19:19.03 | lsmith | or i am content with trying to fix php :-)= |
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| 19:19.30 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH |
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| 19:19.36 | lsmith | soemthing about "content" is spelled wrong :-) |
| 19:19.48 | TheMasterMind1 | and the mtd patch ofcourse doesn't apply to the mtd from cvs |
| 19:19.57 | ljp_laptop | great. |
| 19:19.58 | lsmith | ah well ... correct spelling sucks |
| 19:20.05 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: what patch? |
| 19:20.07 | ljp_laptop | what do you guys do all day anyway? |
| 19:20.08 | TheMasterMind1 | wow they changed a lot of stuff around |
| 19:20.17 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: the patch i stole from hybrid to apply to .18 |
| 19:20.27 | kergoth | me? i sit at work and listen to XM and hack on things |
| 19:20.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:21.01 | lsmith | shhh ... i think kergoth is busy writing the next news update for oz.org :-) |
| 19:21.16 | kergoth | bleh, I need to 1) rewrite portions of oebuild to make it use the new parser and data access modules, and 2) add sane supply of test results for configure runs to oeconf |
| 19:21.32 | ljp_laptop | hmm, uclibc 404 |
| 19:21.34 | kergoth | then dropbear will build, and i can continue adding other items |
| 19:22.18 | ljp_laptop | oh, its going to be a long week I can tell |
| 19:22.37 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i added zlib to the new system in about 2 minutes flat. the transition isnt going to take long |
| 19:22.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: heh |
| 19:22.43 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i could move the patches so they patch mtd instead, then mtd patches the kernel with its script and they carry over. will that fuck up anything else? we don't use mtd with kernels for any of the other kernels |
| 19:22.44 | TheMasterMind1 | do we |
| 19:23.08 | kergoth | what *exactly* does this mtd patch do? |
| 19:23.21 | masticator | sup homeez. |
| 19:23.31 | TheMasterMind1 | it changes sa1100-flash.c in mtd/maps/ so theres a partition scheme defined for collie |
| 19:23.42 | TheMasterMind1 | the partition scheme that we want, with mtdblock4 being jffs2 |
| 19:23.51 | TheMasterMind1 | thats all |
| 19:24.10 | ljp_laptop | kernel-headers is borked also |
| 19:24.22 | bipolar | ~lart SF cvs |
| 19:24.43 | bipolar | ljp_laptop: need new version in Makefile. now it's 2.4.21 |
| 19:24.45 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: works fine here, my corgi build jsut finished building opie |
| 19:24.49 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:24.56 | kergoth | upstream source change again |
| 19:24.57 | ljp_laptop | 2.4.21 |
| 19:24.58 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: its all inside ifdef MTD_COLLIE and if machine_is_collie anyway |
| 19:24.58 | kergoth | +} |
| 19:24.58 | kergoth | + |
| 19:25.00 | kergoth | er |
| 19:25.01 | kergoth | damnit |
| 19:25.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:25.10 | kergoth | http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/packages/patch@1.26?nav=index.html|ChangeSet@-1h|cset@1.26 |
| 19:25.15 | masticator | oz is now runnint 2.4.21? |
| 19:25.23 | kergoth | no, oz is not running 2.4.21 |
| 19:25.26 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:25.29 | kergoth | there is no rmk tree for 2.4.21 |
| 19:25.34 | ljp_laptop | *sigh* |
| 19:25.38 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll bbiaf. lunch time. |
| 19:25.59 | ljp_laptop | well .18 is 404 |
| 19:26.12 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: bk vi packages/kernel-headers/Makefile |
| 19:26.18 | kergoth | :%s,2.4.18,2.4.21,g |
| 19:26.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:26.34 | ljp_laptop | that will work on corgi? |
| 19:26.55 | kergoth | its just the base headers used for teh glibc build and shit. |
| 19:26.57 | kergoth | it'll work fine |
| 19:27.02 | ljp_laptop | bash: vi: command not found |
| 19:27.14 | ljp_laptop | :) |
| 19:27.19 | ljp_laptop | k |
| 19:27.22 | kergoth | heheh |
| 19:27.55 | ljp_laptop | opie is getting a new image viewer.. yeeaahhh! |
| 19:29.16 | lsmith | so is there a roadmap to opie 1.0 .. i assume all the germans on the project love a well planned roadmap ;-) |
| 19:29.27 | Twiun | re |
| 19:29.32 | kergoth | hey Twiun |
| 19:29.46 | ljp_laptop | roadmap?? |
| 19:30.05 | ljp_laptop | .99 ======== fixbugs========1.0! |
| 19:30.15 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun: hey, you know that progress bar and "please wait .. booting" how does that work? is it outputting directly onto the fb somehow? |
| 19:30.19 | Twiun | kergoth: you know that file in /etc, I'm seriously thinking of also making it contain config |
| 19:30.31 | kergoth | Twiun: not a bad idea. |
| 19:30.36 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: the text you mean? |
| 19:30.40 | TheMasterMind1 | Twiun: ya |
| 19:30.54 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: please wait outputs to tty0 |
| 19:31.01 | TheMasterMind1 | oh. doh |
| 19:31.06 | Twiun | TheMasterMind1: it uses, erm, the kernel's tty and fbcon ;) |
| 19:31.07 | TheMasterMind1 | go directly to tty0 |
| 19:31.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: which is hte foreground vt.. so that way even if console -> null, we still get output |
| 19:31.18 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:31.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:31.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i was confused because none of the other messages show stuff since console=null |
| 19:31.23 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: gotcha |
| 19:31.25 | kergoth | right |
| 19:31.27 | TheMasterMind1 | k, bbl. |
| 19:31.47 | ljp_laptop | is 4gb ok for buildroot? |
| 19:32.00 | Twiun | total or just sources? |
| 19:32.24 | Twiun | mine's 2gb total ;) |
| 19:32.40 | ljp_laptop | total build image |
| 19:33.35 | Twiun | cwd=buildroot-oz;du -sh .=2.1G |
| 19:34.38 | kergoth | treke: prospective oe/ipaq user in #openzaurus |
| 19:40.35 | kergoth | sidtune.cpp:988: invalid conversion from `long int' to `std::_Ios_Openmode' |
| 19:40.39 | kergoth | sidtune.cpp:988: initializing argument 2 of `std::basic_ofstream<_CharT, |
| 19:40.42 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.45 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.47 | kergoth | my, thats ugly |
| 19:41.37 | kergoth | screenfull of those |
| 19:41.56 | treke | kergoth: Turns out my hack on the poldhu driver disables irq 3 every couple hours :) |
| 19:42.06 | treke | kergoth: So I now can't get more than an evenings uptime |
| 19:42.08 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:42.12 | kergoth | doh |
| 19:43.54 | ljp_laptop | my cat just attacked a poor, defenseless dove |
| 19:44.11 | Twiun | lunch :) |
| 19:44.27 | Twiun | it probably just wanted to play - you're spending way too much time on your computer |
| 19:44.32 | XavierXeon | tastes like chicken ! |
| 19:44.54 | ljp_laptop | she missed it though |
| 19:45.21 | ljp_laptop | ugh.. I need dsl |
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| 19:46.11 | cmartin | mickey|building: still putting together that PC? |
| 19:47.44 | ljp_laptop | how close is oe from being workable? |
| 19:48.12 | cmartin | i'm having major problems with libtool - first i couldn't build konqe and now it's libxine: |
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| 19:48.19 | cmartin | arm-linux-gcc -shared demux_ogg.lo -D__LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL__ -L/home/simpad/opensimpad/output/staging/target/lib -L/home/simpad/opensimpad/output/staging/usr/X11R6/lib -L/home/simpad/opensimpad/output/staging/lib /usr/lib/libogg.so -lvorbisidec -lm ../../src/xine-engine/.libs/libxine.so -Wl,-rpath-link -Wl,/home/simpad/opensimpad/output/staging/target/lib -Wl,-rpath-link -Wl,/home/simpad/opensimpad/output/staging/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl, |
| 19:48.22 | noda | Moo! :) |
| 19:48.23 | cmartin | /usr/lib/libogg.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation |
| 19:48.23 | cmartin | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 19:48.24 | cmartin | make[5]: *** [xineplug_dmx_ogg.la] Error 1 |
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| 19:48.37 | treke | cmartin: you need to patch ltmain.sh |
| 19:48.44 | treke | cmartin: or uninstall libogg |
| 19:49.07 | treke | oddly enough harlekin just msgd me about this exact problem in bluez-sdp :p |
| 19:49.11 | absentiaZ | hi from taos new mexico on c700 |
| 19:49.12 | noda | Twiun: I get a laptop on July 3rd (supposedly) so that's when I'm gonna start REALLY working on the 3c1. I'm hoping it'll be a couple of tweaks to the 3c589 -- but dunno, never done a driver before :) |
| 19:49.27 | absentiaZ | 1 more week of vacation ... |
| 19:49.31 | ljp_laptop | taos.. |
| 19:49.32 | Twiun | noda: it's an experience never to be repeated... |
| 19:49.39 | noda | Twiun: Hehehe :) |
| 19:49.41 | ljp_laptop | go to the hot springs |
| 19:49.47 | cmartin | treke: i would prefer the first, since it's libjpeg.so causing problems with konqe |
| 19:49.59 | Twiun | noda: btw, could you erase user Twiun from the oe wiki? Something went wrong with my reg and I can't log it in |
| 19:50.09 | absentiaZ | yup... went through sunnyvale ca, san francisco, albuquerque nm, santa fe nm, now in taos |
| 19:50.10 | cmartin | treke: how do i patch ltmain.sh? |
| 19:50.12 | absentiaZ | next is vegas |
| 19:50.25 | noda | Twiun: Um. I don't think registration ever worked, just don't bother :) |
| 19:50.31 | noda | If it did, hell, I don't know a thing about it! :) |
| 19:50.37 | Twiun | noda: lol, oh well |
| 19:50.44 | Twiun | noda: nevermind then ;) |
| 19:50.52 | noda | Hey, what's "empty" (verb) in Spanish? |
| 19:50.55 | treke | cmartin: you need to set sys_include_path ( or something) to empty |
| 19:51.16 | masticator | its the opposite of lleno |
| 19:51.26 | treke | cmartin: I dont remember the exact variable |
| 19:51.32 | absentiaZ | hey masticator |
| 19:51.37 | noda | Babelfish time! :) |
| 19:51.57 | cmartin | treke: where is ltmain.sh found? |
| 19:52.07 | noda | Scary... "English to Spanish" was already selected for me. |
| 19:52.14 | treke | cmartin: in the package you are installing |
| 19:52.20 | treke | it might be called something else |
| 19:53.27 | masticator | vacio |
| 19:53.35 | masticator | but thats closer to "Vacant" |
| 19:53.44 | absentiaZ | noda -- defzult |
| 19:53.49 | noda | Someone here says "vaciar" :) |
| 19:54.35 | noda | Babelfish likes "vaciar", translates to "To drain." |
| 19:54.40 | masticator | el tanque es vacio |
| 19:54.43 | masticator | the tank is empty. |
| 19:54.54 | noda | :) |
| 19:56.35 | TheMasterMind1 | how big is the flash on collie |
| 19:56.41 | masticator | 16 |
| 19:56.58 | TheMasterMind1 | no like the entire flash |
| 19:57.02 | masticator | 16 |
| 19:57.13 | TheMasterMind1 | 0x01000000 |
| 19:57.14 | TheMasterMind1 | how big is that |
| 19:57.21 | masticator | 16384 |
| 19:57.37 | cmartin | treke: sorry, can't find anything of the sort in either package - libxine or konqe - looked under packages and build |
| 19:58.30 | masticator | 16mb is the entire size of the flash, including the bootloader |
| 19:59.34 | masticator | oooh. Apple G5. |
| 19:59.43 | absentiaZ | guys |
| 19:59.53 | absentiaZ | i forgot my password for sharp rom... |
| 20:00.01 | absentiaZ | any idea how to crack in? |
| 20:00.02 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 20:00.05 | TheMasterMind1 | now for a harder one |
| 20:00.05 | ljp_laptop | hahahahaha |
| 20:00.20 | masticator | its called hard reset, dude. |
| 20:00.23 | ljp_laptop | think we'd tell? |
| 20:00.28 | TheMasterMind1 | which one is the base.. SA1100_CS0_PHYS or SA1100_CS1_PHYS |
| 20:00.32 | absentiaZ | ljp: yes |
| 20:00.38 | absentiaZ | hence my question |
| 20:00.43 | TheMasterMind1 | base address for the starting of flash |
| 20:00.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: look at our 2.4.19 tree.. |
| 20:00.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: heh |
| 20:00.57 | kergoth | dont reinvent the wheel |
| 20:00.58 | absentiaZ | i though about flashing oz and finding the password file |
| 20:01.07 | absentiaZ | but it wasnt straight forward |
| 20:01.19 | absentiaZ | hey goth |
| 20:01.28 | kergoth | hey |
| 20:02.00 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: its not there. i looked |
| 20:02.10 | TheMasterMind1 | mtd in .19 is older than this cvs also |
| 20:02.14 | TheMasterMind1 | they decided to rewrite it |
| 20:02.19 | TheMasterMind1 | lucky me i get to port our patches forward |
| 20:02.26 | kergoth | and? the information about what chip select its on is still there somewhere |
| 20:02.28 | absentiaZ | i wonder if i could make a perl scriptand select the runas root... from the icon setting |
| 20:02.36 | absentiaZ | ill give that a try one time |
| 20:05.32 | absentiaZ | good ole security through obscurity |
| 20:07.13 | XavierXeon | my password normaly is : ******** |
| 20:07.27 | Twiun | mine's : |
| 20:07.39 | Twiun | never bother switching on char echoing ;) |
| 20:08.30 | absentiaZ | what port is open telnet 4242? |
| 20:08.41 | absentiaZ | that zaurus, not root, right? |
| 20:11.22 | ljp_laptop | starboard, not port |
| 20:12.59 | Twiun | masticator: http://www.computerwire.info/brnews/448B94DB6CEB5D0B80256D4B003C37ED |
| 20:13.42 | absentiaZ | anyone know the open port? |
| 20:14.36 | Twiun | 4242 is qtopia's ftp afaik, there being no open telnet port in OZ |
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| 20:15.31 | Twiun | everyone I know uses ssh to log into their Z remotely anyway |
| 20:15.54 | absentiaZ | sharp |
| 20:16.12 | absentiaZ | well i have sharp rom |
| 20:16.17 | absentiaZ | and no ssh here |
| 20:16.32 | ljp_laptop | 3.1? |
| 20:16.33 | absentiaZ | i dled the ssh ipk, but the package installer doesnt see the ipk |
| 20:16.45 | absentiaZ | c700 default |
| 20:17.30 | ljp_laptop | oh. |
| 20:17.43 | absentiaZ | the more i use this thing |
| 20:17.49 | absentiaZ | the more that fails... |
| 20:17.54 | ljp_laptop | what version does sysinfo say? |
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| 20:18.02 | absentiaZ | just trying to ssh out so i can aim |
| 20:18.07 | absentiaZ | hold |
| 20:18.45 | absentiaZ | sharprom 1.20 |
| 20:18.51 | absentiaZ | jp |
| 20:18.56 | kergoth | what version of qtopia is on that? |
| 20:19.07 | kergoth | wonder if sharp's released any kernel sources to recent c700 roms yet |
| 20:19.12 | absentiaZ | i really wish i could IM direclty from the 700 |
| 20:19.17 | ociocio | absentiaZ: you want to ssh out to use aim? get kinkatta lite |
| 20:19.19 | ljp_laptop | doubtful |
| 20:19.34 | absentiaZ | oc ill look on killefiz for it |
| 20:19.49 | absentiaZ | qtopia 1.5.4 |
| 20:19.53 | ociocio | not sure if it runs on c700 but its worth a shot |
| 20:20.00 | endr | anyone have problems with fdisk dying with a bus error when trying to re-partition an SD card? |
| 20:20.05 | endr | OZ 3.2 SL-5500 |
| 20:20.15 | absentiaZ | but i reaally do need an sh client |
| 20:20.20 | absentiaZ | ill try manual ipkg |
| 20:20.44 | ljp_laptop | dont think fdisk likes busybox |
| 20:20.56 | endr | ljp_laptop: oh? |
| 20:21.01 | SuKoShi | bk clone doesn't work for me... |
| 20:21.04 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: both busybox fdisk and util-linux fdisk exhibited the same bus error behavior |
| 20:21.04 | absentiaZ | could someone explain why kill to a qtopia proc doesnt make it go away |
| 20:21.05 | absentiaZ | ie |
| 20:21.18 | endr | kergoth: seen this before? |
| 20:21.19 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: and removing our compiler optimization flags on it fixes the problem |
| 20:21.20 | absentiaZ | sysinfo, control c, its still there until you press the x |
| 20:21.30 | ljp_laptop | hmm |
| 20:21.33 | kergoth | endr: uh, its only been an open bug report for months and months |
| 20:21.46 | kergoth | endr: yes, its a known bug that should be fixed in recent builds |
| 20:21.48 | endr | kergoth: uh, duh |
| 20:21.49 | TheMasterMind1 | only? |
| 20:21.53 | endr | kergoth: sorry for the FAQ then |
| 20:21.55 | ljp_laptop | could you remove optim. on just fdisk? or busybox? |
| 20:21.57 | kergoth | recent builds strip out the optimization flags on the fdisk.c compile |
| 20:22.00 | kergoth | already done |
| 20:22.10 | kergoth | dont ya love it when people tell you how to fix problems that've been fixed for a while? |
| 20:22.13 | ljp_laptop | ahh |
| 20:22.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:22.14 | endr | kergoth: can I just ipkg install something? |
| 20:22.19 | ljp_laptop | no |
| 20:22.21 | endr | kergoth: heh |
| 20:22.29 | kergoth | busybox, but given the packaging i dont know how safe the busybox in unstable would be |
| 20:22.34 | endr | or manually copy the binary? |
| 20:22.41 | endr | hmm |
| 20:22.41 | ljp_laptop | echo "some fixed problem" >> README |
| 20:22.56 | endr | cat README > /dev/brain |
| 20:23.04 | kergoth | rip the busybox binary out of hte base busybox ipk in unstable and drop it onto yours |
| 20:23.16 | endr | kergoth: cool |
| 20:23.21 | cmartin | kergoth: i still can't get around my libtool problem - now i can't build libxine with a similar error - a lib (libogg.so this time) from my PC system is being included instead of staging |
| 20:23.26 | endr | kergoth: thx |
| 20:23.41 | kergoth | cmartin: i havent touched the old buildroot in quite some time. i have no idea. |
| 20:24.01 | absentiaZ | is there an IM client for the c700? for AOL IM? |
| 20:24.11 | kergoth | you were already told |
| 20:24.14 | kergoth | kinkattalite |
| 20:24.18 | kergoth | theres nothing c700 specific about this |
| 20:24.22 | ociocio | and doesnt aol make a java client? |
| 20:24.24 | kergoth | you need a qtopia aim client |
| 20:24.40 | absentiaZ | yes |
| 20:25.26 | endr | kergoth: sorry, you said "busybox base" -- is that busybox-coreutils? |
| 20:25.46 | kergoth | no. |
| 20:25.49 | kergoth | thats *busybox* |
| 20:25.52 | kergoth | not busybox-crap |
| 20:26.01 | endr | cool... busybox_0.61 |
| 20:26.02 | endr | thx |
| 20:26.06 | kergoth | np |
| 20:26.14 | absentiaZ | anyone know how to type a backtic? |
| 20:26.17 | endr | (i.e., the one that's more than 1k)...duh |
| 20:26.45 | kergoth | endr: yep, the rest contain the busybox symlinks.. we split the links out from the package to make installs of non-busybox versions of things easier |
| 20:26.52 | ljp_laptop | backtic? ` |
| 20:26.58 | endr | kergoth: aha |
| 20:27.16 | kergoth | endr: i.e. fdisk Replaces busybox-fdisk, etc |
| 20:27.24 | endr | kergoth: cool idea |
| 20:27.50 | kergoth | never had time to add task-busybox, which would just depend on all the individual packages. without that, ipkg upgrades your busybox, and ta da, no more symlinks |
| 20:27.53 | kergoth | b00m |
| 20:28.36 | endr | ? |
| 20:28.57 | kergoth | new busybox doesnt have busybox symlinks |
| 20:29.01 | kergoth | old busybxo does have busybox symlinks |
| 20:29.04 | ljp_laptop | you mean bing, not boom |
| 20:29.05 | kergoth | ipkg removes old, installs new |
| 20:29.12 | kergoth | ta da, you have no /bin/cp, /bin/ls, etc |
| 20:29.16 | kergoth | BOOM |
| 20:29.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:29.28 | endr | doh |
| 20:30.04 | kergoth | technically, /bin/cp is part of coreutils, and task-essential should Depend on coreutils |
| 20:30.22 | kergoth | then, when ipkg upgrades busybox, it should see that hte upgrade is making the coreutils dependency no loonger satisfied |
| 20:30.25 | kergoth | so it should install it |
| 20:30.35 | kergoth | but i doubt its that sane |
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| 20:30.53 | ociocio | what kernel are the unstable kernel modules compiled for? |
| 20:30.59 | absentiaZ | imback |
| 20:31.07 | absentiaZ | crashed sharp rom |
| 20:31.09 | kergoth | ociocio: uh, read. |
| 20:31.22 | kergoth | ociocio: hte module package names/versions show you the kernel version, right? |
| 20:31.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:31.28 | ociocio | no |
| 20:31.29 | absentiaZ | trying to call up keyboard to type a backtic |
| 20:31.32 | kergoth | if it says 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix, thats the kernel version |
| 20:31.52 | kergoth | no? |
| 20:31.55 | kergoth | you're full of shit. |
| 20:32.05 | ociocio | http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/orinoco-modules_0.11b-0.3.7-3_collie.ipk |
| 20:32.05 | kergoth | http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/3c574-modules_2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix-5a_collie.ipk |
| 20:32.14 | kergoth | orinoco is an exception |
| 20:32.16 | kergoth | not the rule |
| 20:32.20 | ociocio | ok |
| 20:32.27 | kergoth | and its built against the same version as every other module in unstable |
| 20:33.45 | TheMasterMind1 | ARGH. I. HATE. LINEO. |
| 20:33.47 | endr | kergoth: is there some other reason fdisk might die? the busybox binary from http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/feed/ didn't correct the problem -- still dies w/ bus errors trying to print the partition table. |
| 20:34.04 | kergoth | odd |
| 20:34.07 | kergoth | no, theres no other reason |
| 20:34.14 | kergoth | when busybox is built w/o opts, it goes away |
| 20:34.22 | SuKoShi | hello people ! |
| 20:34.23 | endr | people complain about dead SD cards -- not an issue? |
| 20:34.26 | kergoth | but i take it that building fdisk.c alone without opts wasnt sufficient htne |
| 20:34.32 | endr | oh |
| 20:34.38 | SuKoShi | is there a problem with bkbits recently? |
| 20:34.41 | kergoth | must be something in libbb that affects fdisk |
| 20:34.42 | kergoth | SuKoShi: yes |
| 20:34.45 | SuKoShi | i can't bk clone |
| 20:34.50 | kergoth | SuKoShi: its hard disks went kaput over the weekend |
| 20:34.53 | absentiaZ | hi sukoshi |
| 20:34.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: seems theres a slight thing i overlooked. pulling latest mtd into kernel kind of overwrites all the patches lineo made to mtd. |
| 20:35.01 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: probably doesnt matter |
| 20:35.09 | SuKoShi | kergoth: ok, i understand Chris... it's been >2 hours i try bk pull etc etc |
| 20:35.11 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'd be willing to bet all they did was pull in a more recent mtd themselves |
| 20:35.20 | SuKoShi | so i deleted my buildroot :x |
| 20:35.31 | kergoth | SuKoShi: I'll email their support. we have permissions problems that dont allow me to add/remove keys as well |
| 20:36.01 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: yea, i think right now just a couple of Makefiles and config.in's got overwritten that were building some specific .o files |
| 20:36.09 | absentiaZ | hmmm install wont work sine im not root |
| 20:36.12 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: however some of these mtd files do have lineo changelogs |
| 20:36.12 | absentiaZ | oh well |
| 20:36.25 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: we'll have to review the changes then |
| 20:36.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: see if they're worth keeping |
| 20:36.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: same shit we did for the move to 2.4.l19.. |
| 20:36.59 | kergoth | remember, reviewing every change, checking sanity, determining if it was needed as is, or if we should rewrite, or just toss it |
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| 20:37.17 | endr | kergoth: happen to know where I could find an unoptimized version of busybox? |
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| 20:37.52 | ljp_laptop | my step sister got married this weekend, and when the garter thing happened, the groom closed his eyes, and flung the garter and it hit me in the forehead |
| 20:37.53 | kergoth | endr: nowhere. build one. |
| 20:38.02 | kergoth | ljp_laptop: hah |
| 20:38.09 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: what's sabinal? another dog/proc? |
| 20:38.09 | absentiaZ | h0h0h0 |
| 20:38.10 | endr | ok |
| 20:38.19 | absentiaZ | ipkg says ipk file has illegal chars |
| 20:38.22 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: not sure |
| 20:38.24 | absentiaZ | lovely |
| 20:38.41 | Twiun | absentiaZ: you're using an OZ package on the Sharp ROM, right? |
| 20:38.58 | Twiun | absentiaZ: iirc Sharp never updated their ipkg to use the newer .ipk format |
| 20:39.13 | kergoth | you recall correctly. even recent roms on all devices still use the old shell implementation |
| 20:39.42 | Twiun | absentiaZ: use "ar x packagename.ipk" to extract files and "tar -czf somename.ipk ...files..." to tar them back up |
| 20:39.51 | absentiaZ | tw: ya... aqpkg doesnt work for sharp rom... it starts up, but then goes away |
| 20:39.55 | Twiun | not sure if there isn't more which is required |
| 20:40.04 | kergoth | ar then tar should work fine |
| 20:40.05 | Twiun | absentiaZ: have a go at sharp ;) |
| 20:40.21 | Twiun | absentiaZ: but you may have to join the queue behing Tkc |
| 20:40.22 | absentiaZ | tw: no, sharp rom trying to get ssh client |
| 20:40.26 | kergoth | remember to use ./ on the filenames to control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz |
| 20:41.00 | absentiaZ | :-D |
| 20:41.08 | Twiun | absentiaZ: right, I understand that, but the reason why you can't use OZ packages easily is because Sharp don't get their arse in gear |
| 20:41.21 | absentiaZ | this is from killefiz? |
| 20:41.28 | absentiaZ | why would that be oz |
| 20:41.30 | absentiaZ | normally |
| 20:41.36 | absentiaZ | i flash to oz just to use ssh |
| 20:41.38 | kergoth | 'file [filename]' is your friend |
| 20:41.40 | absentiaZ | kinda silly |
| 20:41.48 | Twiun | ~lart absentiaZ |
| 20:41.56 | Twiun | absentiaZ: pay attention. |
| 20:42.07 | Twiun | absentiaZ: Sharp make flawed decisions. |
| 20:42.12 | kergoth | Twiun: he got the ipk from zsi, wants to know why itd be ar not tar |
| 20:42.13 | absentiaZ | i know |
| 20:42.22 | kergoth | just check the file type for gods sake |
| 20:42.23 | Twiun | kergoth: Ahhhh |
| 20:42.24 | kergoth | can you untar it? |
| 20:42.29 | kergoth | if not, its not the old format |
| 20:42.34 | kergoth | or its just plain corrupt |
| 20:42.36 | treke | eh |
| 20:42.36 | absentiaZ | lemme try |
| 20:42.50 | treke | its not really sharps fault for not updating to the new ipkg that is usually horribly broken |
| 20:42.56 | Twiun | killefiz: think md5 hashes should be encouraged on zfi? |
| 20:43.12 | treke | at least the one they have is broken in well known ways |
| 20:43.18 | kergoth | yep |
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| 20:44.04 | absentiaZ | its a tar.gz |
| 20:44.19 | absentiaZ | has 3 .ipk in it, plus readme... |
| 20:44.28 | absentiaZ | that why it wasnt beinf seen |
| 20:44.34 | Twiun | lol |
| 20:44.56 | Twiun | might want to edit zsi's entry for that then, so people know |
| 20:46.13 | absentiaZ | ya, just confusing for noobs like me |
| 20:47.04 | ||ugh | kergoth, just a note that it would be useful to some of us on the edges to have another omibus update note on the OpenZaurus web site again. |
| 20:47.14 | kergoth | k |
| 20:47.28 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't think this is worth the effort anymore |
| 20:47.58 | kergoth | the 2.4.18 tree? |
| 20:48.03 | kergoth | yeah, you're doing half the shit we already did |
| 20:48.17 | kergoth | may be easier to move a few drivers from it into our 2.4.19 tree as a holdover |
| 20:48.24 | Twiun | kergoth: That's a cruel way to get him into kernel dev ;) |
| 20:48.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:48.45 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know where GFP_KERNEL or kmalloc are defined |
| 20:49.01 | absentiaZ | ok sees it now |
| 20:49.13 | kergoth | hmm, i need to pick up a usb BT dealy |
| 20:49.20 | kergoth | so i can send shit to my new cell |
| 20:49.41 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: picked up a nokia 3650 |
| 20:50.24 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 20:50.38 | beattie | 0 jffs2port.h 63 #define kmalloc(a,b) malloc(a) |
| 20:50.38 | beattie | 1 debug.h 260 #define kmalloc(x...) (PRINT_INFO(" kmalloc |
| 20:50.38 | beattie | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.38 | beattie | 2 debug.h 260 #define kmalloc(x...) (PRINT_INFO(" kmalloc |
| 20:50.38 | beattie | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.39 | beattie | 3 slab.c 1537 void * kmalloc (size_t size, int flags) |
| 20:50.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:51.35 | Twiun | kergoth: I'm going to be cheating a bit with the conf file - I'm reading it as if it was a series of commands read from the fifo |
| 20:51.53 | kergoth | Twiun: hah. hey, whatever works |
| 20:51.54 | beattie | GFP_KERNEL is defined in include/linux/mm.h |
| 20:52.13 | endr | kergoth: is it cool (the phone)? |
| 20:52.30 | endr | OZ <-> phone (via bluetooth)? |
| 20:52.48 | kergoth | the phone seems nice so far. not that I *need* camera or short video clips or whatever, its overkill |
| 20:52.51 | kergoth | still, it seems nice |
| 20:52.55 | kergoth | now i need some bt shit |
| 20:53.03 | endr | heh |
| 20:53.08 | endr | yeah |
| 20:53.23 | endr | buy one thing, buy 3 others to play with it |
| 20:53.28 | kergoth | damn right :) |
| 20:53.33 | treke | it makes phone calls |
| 20:53.40 | treke | full stop |
| 20:53.52 | kergoth | sounds like my old motorola timeport |
| 20:54.06 | kergoth | had that for years. shit was fallin apart though ,antenna falling out and shit :) |
| 20:54.07 | endr | motorola's OS / GUI = ugh |
| 20:54.21 | kergoth | endr: its not exactly perty.. but it works :) |
| 20:54.30 | treke | and it doesnt have an antenna to stick yourself in the balls with |
| 20:54.56 | endr | kergoth: yup, have to say...triband too |
| 20:55.00 | treke | and that my friends is why I will faithfully stick with nokia phones |
| 20:55.08 | kergoth | hehe, good reason |
| 20:55.27 | kergoth | I used to have a 5100 series, then a 6100 series. always loved the switchable faceplates, was a nifty feature |
| 20:55.46 | endr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.47 | treke | mine is scratched all to hell |
| 20:56.00 | kergoth | ext2, or umsdos on vfat |
| 20:56.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:56.16 | endr | heh |
| 20:56.31 | endr | might have to do vfat to play nice with win boxes at work |
| 20:56.44 | kergoth | then use umsdos on it so you can still install shit to it that needs symlinks |
| 20:56.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:56.51 | treke | umsdos |
| 20:56.54 | endr | aha |
| 20:57.10 | endr | <ignorant> umsdos = fs? |
| 20:57.55 | kergoth | yep. some people used to install linux utilizing it. bleh. bastards who didnt want to create new partitions |
| 20:57.58 | kergoth | heheh |
| 20:58.02 | endr | heh |
| 20:58.08 | kergoth | /home/kergoth/oz/corgi/build/mplayer/codec-cfg.c:442: undefined reference to `__ctype_b_loc' |
| 20:58.12 | endr | google helped. </ignorant> |
| 20:58.13 | kergoth | hm, somebody forgot a -lsupc++ |
| 21:00.06 | TheMasterMind1 | mod_exit_t sa1100_mtdram_cleanup(void) |
| 21:00.08 | TheMasterMind1 | that errors |
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| 21:02.00 | absentiaZ | what is the best ipkg qtopia installer for sharp? |
| 21:02.00 | absentiaZ | so, are people liking their 750/760s ? |
| 21:02.22 | ljp_laptop | no one has one |
| 21:02.43 | kergoth | sharp questions are generally in #zaurus |
| 21:02.45 | kergoth | few here use it |
| 21:03.04 | TheMasterMind1 | somene wanna gimme $500? |
| 21:03.22 | Twiun | me too! |
| 21:04.00 | ljp_laptop | monopoly money I can give that to you |
| 21:04.13 | absentiaZ | re |
| 21:05.19 | absentiaZ | wireless keeps going down here... at the cyber cafe |
| 21:05.42 | Thelonious | absentiaZ, what device are you using? |
| 21:06.21 | absentiaZ | c700 + dlink 560 |
| 21:06.30 | absentiaZ | not sure what the cafe has |
| 21:06.45 | absentiaZ | its the hub going down, not the dlink |
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| 21:07.14 | TheMasterMind1 | hm, ok so what are SA1100_CS_PHYS - SA1100_CS3_PHYS |
| 21:07.19 | TheMasterMind1 | CS0 |
| 21:07.29 | TheMasterMind1 | they're used in mtd, but defined nowhere |
| 21:07.31 | kergoth | sounds like the physical addresses of the chip selects |
| 21:07.38 | kergoth | where are they defined? dunno |
| 21:08.15 | TheMasterMind1 | nowhere in the linux tree or the mtd tree |
| 21:08.17 | TheMasterMind1 | weird. |
| 21:11.28 | ljp_laptop | man, I just got an email about a windows utility I wrote 5 years ago |
| 21:11.36 | endr | kergoth: used my debian/testing fdisk to repartition the SD card (successful) as one primary ext2 partition, and then did mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcda1 on the zaurus...printed out success, but couldn't mount it. |
| 21:11.52 | kergoth | "couldn't mount it" |
| 21:11.53 | endr | kergoth: saw the weirdest error when trying to mount it on the debian/testing from ext2 |
| 21:11.53 | kergoth | .. |
| 21:12.04 | endr | kergoth: mount -t ext2 /dev/mmcda1 /mnt/card |
| 21:12.04 | endr | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcda1, |
| 21:12.04 | endr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.04 | endr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.04 | endr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.07 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit |
| 21:12.22 | kergoth | you did do your partitioning and mkfs while it was unmounted, right? |
| 21:12.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:12.31 | endr | kergoth: yeah :) |
| 21:12.41 | kergoth | just checking |
| 21:12.41 | endr | kergoth: mke2fs on debian/testing worked fine though |
| 21:12.46 | endr | now it mounts fine |
| 21:12.49 | kergoth | odd |
| 21:12.59 | endr | I checked the output from the two mkfs, both exactly the same |
| 21:13.10 | endr | (in terms of blocks, superblock location, etc) |
| 21:13.14 | endr | weird... |
| 21:13.22 | kergoth | so its not likely an mkfs.ext2 problem, its likely something with the sd driver on the z |
| 21:13.25 | kergoth | eh? |
| 21:13.28 | endr | hmmm |
| 21:13.30 | endr | yes |
| 21:13.32 | endr | possibly |
| 21:13.51 | endr | sux |
| 21:14.31 | ljp_laptop | hmm, open source java |
| 21:14.50 | endr | ljp_laptop: didn't the blackdown guys try that already? |
| 21:15.02 | endr | endr: (slashdot, right?) |
| 21:15.09 | endr | s/endr/ljp/ |
| 21:15.30 | treke | blackdown never tried doing an open source java, did they? |
| 21:15.43 | kergoth | not afaik |
| 21:15.50 | kergoth | arent kaffe and wonka both open source vm's though? |
| 21:16.13 | ljp_laptop | dunno. I know more about coffee than I do java. |
| 21:16.25 | kergoth | heheh. i need an espresso machine |
| 21:16.39 | ljp_laptop | me too |
| 21:16.58 | ljp_laptop | dont you have coffee machines there? |
| 21:17.20 | cmartin | kergoth: sorry, that bugged you so much about my libtool problem - i finally could solve it - my LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set |
| 21:17.26 | cmartin | s/ I |
| 21:17.29 | kergoth | yeah, itd be nice to make espresso whenever you want though |
| 21:17.32 | kergoth | cmartin: ah |
| 21:17.41 | kergoth | thatd do it, those dirs get pulled into the libtool lib path |
| 21:17.50 | endr | kergoth: yup, blackdown licensed Sun's code |
| 21:17.54 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: guess where those wonderful variables are defined |
| 21:17.57 | treke | it happens even if you dont have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set |
| 21:18.02 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: hmm? |
| 21:18.03 | endr | kergoth: and kaffe is open-source, but the JVM mainly |
| 21:18.12 | TheMasterMind1 | in the 2.5.67-rmk1 kernel |
| 21:18.15 | treke | endr: They licensed suns code, but I dont think it was ever meant to be opensource |
| 21:18.20 | TheMasterMind1 | SA1100_CS3_PHYS etc |
| 21:18.20 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: ah, you grabbed head? |
| 21:18.27 | endr | treke ahh |
| 21:18.29 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: must be a seperate branch in mtd cvs for 2.4 dev |
| 21:18.42 | cmartin | treke: well libxine compiled fine now - i guess i'll have to wait and see if konqe compiles too |
| 21:18.48 | endr | treke prob. licensing agreements prevented it anyway |
| 21:19.02 | TheMasterMind1 | sa1100-flash.c is the only file with the " Update from 2.5.67-rmk1" three weeks ago |
| 21:19.15 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: i'm pretty sure the 2.5 and 2.4 dev is two branches |
| 21:19.49 | endr | anyone seen vncserver not pick up keypresses? at all? |
| 21:19.58 | endr | stylus is fine |
| 21:20.57 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: do we need anything in mtd thats been added in the last three weeks |
| 21:20.59 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: could always ask dwmw2 |
| 21:21.03 | kergoth | dunno, probably not |
| 21:21.07 | kergoth | endr: read the mailing list archives |
| 21:21.14 | kergoth | endr: you keep bringing up *known* issues |
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| 21:21.24 | kergoth | endr: also, #openzaurus is the place for support questions, not here |
| 21:21.26 | endr | k |
| 21:21.58 | TheMasterMind1 | and how nice, thats when a lot of the restructuring that i spent all that time porting to took place :) |
| 21:22.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.13 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot seen dwmw2 |
| 21:26.14 | | dwmw2 <~dwmw2@213.86.99.237> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 8h 12m 16s ago, saying: 'indeed... this is why I find it interesting :)'. |
| 21:27.28 | absentiaZ | ug |
| 21:28.18 | ljp_laptop | oh, the kernel finally finished dl'ing |
| 21:28.59 | TheMasterMind1 | (vim -d)+++ |
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| 21:41.28 | kergoth | hrm |
| 21:43.08 | ljp_laptop | *2 |
| 21:47.40 | TheMasterMind1 | making progress. |
| 21:52.00 | TheMasterMind1 | rm -rf build/linux/fs/jffs |
| 21:54.00 | TheMasterMind1 | make[6]: Entering directory `/openzaurus/buildroot/build/linux/fs/jffs' |
| 21:54.00 | TheMasterMind1 | GNUmakefile:31: Makefile: No such file or directory |
| 21:54.42 | TheMasterMind1 | is it my fault stupid jffs doesn't have a makefile!! |
| 21:56.43 | cmartin | treke: FYI konqe compiled fine also - my problem was definately the LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 21:59.54 | ljp_laptop | makefiles are overrated |
| 22:00.06 | TheMasterMind1 | jksdfjkkasflklasdklasklo;'jwior283yr |
| 22:00.23 | TheMasterMind1 | KILL. |
| 22:00.28 | absentiaZ | why are all the qmame links dead? |
| 22:00.39 | TheMasterMind1 | rm -rf buildroot/build/linux; |
| 22:00.41 | TheMasterMind1 | i give up |
| 22:01.44 | TheMasterMind1 | updated jffs2 is overrated anyway |
| 22:02.14 | ljp_laptop | what I want to know, is why opie clock alarm slows suspend |
| 22:02.49 | andersee | TheMasterMind1: so whats the probem? |
| 22:05.01 | TheMasterMind1 | andersee: was trying to build .18 with mtd/jffs2 from cvs |
| 22:06.42 | andersee | TheMasterMind1: the filesystem, or the utils? |
| 22:06.49 | TheMasterMind1 | fs |
| 22:07.00 | andersee | ahh |
| 22:10.06 | absentiaZ | anyone have a link to qmame.ld_bin? |
| 22:12.09 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: can you push the 13e fix |
| 22:12.14 | treke | TheMasterMind1: no |
| 22:13.39 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: whys that |
| 22:13.44 | TheMasterMind1 | treke: can you tell me how it was fixed |
| 22:13.54 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone know what mb() or BUG() are? |
| 22:15.04 | cmartin | anybody ever run into this - when building an image the following messages repeat indefinately and the build never ends: |
| 22:15.06 | cmartin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.06 | cmartin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.21 | beattie | BUG is a macro defined in a number of places inclu1 jffs2port.h 47 #define BUG() diag_printf("BUG()\n") |
| 22:16.22 | beattie | ding |
| 22:16.42 | TheMasterMind1 | hm ok |
| 22:16.44 | TheMasterMind1 | jffs2port.h |
| 22:17.04 | TheMasterMind1 | printf BUG() |
| 22:17.06 | TheMasterMind1 | thats a great function |
| 22:17.08 | TheMasterMind1 | what about mb |
| 22:17.13 | TheMasterMind1 | i can just remove references to BUG() |
| 22:17.15 | TheMasterMind1 | pretty worthless |
| 22:17.31 | TheMasterMind1 | nm got both of em |
| 22:17.32 | beattie | mb is more ambiguios |
| 22:17.35 | TheMasterMind1 | added slab.h |
| 22:17.38 | TheMasterMind1 | and compiler.h |
| 22:17.44 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 22:17.45 | TheMasterMind1 | a kernel built |
| 22:17.45 | TheMasterMind1 | amazing. |
| 22:17.55 | beattie | also a define in many places, but also a struct |
| 22:18.49 | beattie | system.h |
| 22:19.09 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:19.11 | TheMasterMind1 | a kernel that doesn't boot |
| 22:19.12 | TheMasterMind1 | yay! |
| 22:21.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:21.19 | kergoth | mb is a memory barrier, you dont want to yank those |
| 22:22.40 | kergoth | hrmm |
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| 22:24.35 | kergoth | hey mewyn |
| 22:25.32 | mewyn | hey |
| 22:25.56 | mewyn | kergoth: what QT/e are you planning on using in upcomming versions of OE/OZ? |
| 22:29.14 | noidd | whee |
| 22:29.23 | noidd | i've found my SL5500 :-D |
| 22:29.50 | treke | noidd: :( |
| 22:30.09 | noidd | its still not running 3.2 :-P |
| 22:30.24 | noidd | just need to find my CF card and do the shiny upgrade |
| 22:30.39 | cmartin | any probs known with timezones? - i'm having problems getting an image built |
| 22:31.51 | andersee | noidd: btw, you mentioned you should redo the perl cross-compile because there was a better/official method now implemented upstream? |
| 22:32.16 | noidd | yes |
| 22:32.27 | noidd | and I implemented it so it must be good :-) |
| 22:34.35 | andersee | noidd: cool. Is this new method documented? I want to cross-compile perl in my uClibc (not oz) buildroot |
| 22:34.46 | andersee | noidd: What version of perl should I grab? |
| 22:35.39 | noidd | ah, its in current bleadperl but broken |
| 22:35.46 | noidd | I can talk you through it, no problem |
| 22:35.59 | noidd | or you can just use the version in OZ |
| 22:36.19 | noidd | all you have to do is replace the confugure output for the version from your uC OS |
| 22:36.31 | noidd | feel free to poll advice from me |
| 22:37.13 | andersee | k |
| 22:38.06 | andersee | for now then, I'll stick with the oz buildroot version, and update things later when it is not quite so bleeding edge (i.e. works) |
| 22:38.07 | andersee | :) |
| 22:38.12 | noidd | the most iportant thing and the hardest thing is to get a configure run |
| 22:38.27 | noidd | the version in OZ buildroot is the best |
| 22:38.29 | noidd | actually |
| 22:38.30 | noidd | I lie |
| 22:38.36 | noidd | one sec - lemme see if i can find this |
| 22:38.45 | TheMasterMind1 | *gasp* |
| 22:39.05 | noidd | whats your email address? |
| 22:40.02 | noidd | andersee that is |
| 22:40.08 | noidd | I need your email adfress |
| 22:40.37 | noidd | i'll mail you my first set of patches for the perl-5.8.0 and the instructions |
| 22:40.57 | noidd | those patches being those decoupled from the oz-buildroot |
| 22:41.07 | andersee | noidd: andersen@codepoet.org |
| 22:42.20 | noidd | check your mail and enjoy |
| 22:42.24 | noidd | now, i'm off to bed :-0 |
| 22:42.32 | noidd | 'nite |
| 22:42.46 | noidd | theres full docs in the patch |
| 22:43.01 | noidd | thats against current perl, 5.8.0 a.k.a stable.tar.gz |
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| 22:57.32 | ociocio | treke: are you active? |
| 22:57.43 | treke | yes |
| 22:58.39 | ociocio | just wanted to let you know i met someone else w/ a 3955 who would be willing to test OZ |
| 22:58.52 | treke | cool |
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| 23:22.17 | TheMasterMind1 | must..buy..c750.. such a good deal... |
| 23:23.53 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: i don't get it. all the images i flash show up as 100% full. i think its a bug somewhere in the kernel or something |
| 23:24.03 | kergoth | weird |
| 23:24.37 | TheMasterMind1 | unless it actually is using up 14mb |
| 23:24.40 | TheMasterMind1 | but i dunno how to tell |
| 23:26.09 | TheMasterMind1 | (this is where you come in and tell me how) |
| 23:28.59 | TheMasterMind1 | agupta@nitrogen:/openzaurus/buildroot/output/rootfs$ du -sh |
| 23:28.59 | TheMasterMind1 | 31M . |
| 23:29.03 | TheMasterMind1 | now i'm REALLY confused |
| 23:29.09 | kergoth | thast expected |
| 23:29.12 | kergoth | jffs2 is compressed |
| 23:29.19 | kergoth | you can fit a shitload of stuff in 14mb of flash w/ jffs2 |
| 23:29.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:29.21 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 23:29.37 | TheMasterMind1 | so how can i tell how big it is jffs2 compressed |
| 23:29.48 | kergoth | disabling padding shoudl be sufficient |
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| 23:30.20 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: which padding. the pad script or the --pad flag to mkfs |
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| 23:30.33 | kergoth | the pad script |
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| 23:30.35 | kergoth | er |
| 23:30.36 | kergoth | both |
| 23:30.37 | kergoth | actually |
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| 23:31.31 | TheMasterMind1 | 12843956 |
| 23:31.33 | TheMasterMind1 | still kidna big |
| 23:31.38 | TheMasterMind1 | but there should be space left on flash |
| 23:31.43 | kergoth | yep, thats a couple megs |
| 23:31.50 | kergoth | should be fine |
| 23:32.34 | mewyn | kergoth: you never did answer my question |
| 23:32.50 | TheMasterMind1 | heh. du says proc is 42mb |
| 23:32.51 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 23:33.00 | kergoth | mewyn: question? |
| 23:33.18 | mewyn | what QT/e you gonna be using in the next iterations of OZ/OE? |
| 23:33.28 | kergoth | latest qt2 |
| 23:33.42 | kergoth | eventually we'll have side by side qt3 images, but who knows how far off that'll be |
| 23:33.54 | mewyn | how about gcc? |
| 23:34.02 | mewyn | still 2.95? |
| 23:34.07 | kergoth | gcc3 for the base system across the board, period |
| 23:34.15 | kergoth | both gcc3 and gcc2 images wrt GUI |
| 23:34.18 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: looking at dmesg, i see a bunch of jffs2 errors. jffs2_scan_inode_node(): Data CRC failed on node at XXXXXX |
| 23:34.22 | kergoth | fun |
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| 23:34.33 | TheMasterMind1 | and then it says mounted root (jffs2) as readonly |
| 23:34.39 | TheMasterMind1 | but mount shows it rw |
| 23:34.41 | mewyn | ok, i'm gonna base my app on the gcc3 version |
| 23:34.49 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: it remounted it rw later |
| 23:34.53 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 23:35.12 | TheMasterMind1 | so its probably the jffs2 errors causing the full fs |
| 23:36.51 | TheMasterMind1 | so how in the world do i fix it |
| 23:37.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i was hoping new jffs2 would, but i can't get that working |
| 23:37.26 | TheMasterMind1 | makes unbootable kernel at best |
| 23:37.38 | TheMasterMind1 | mickey|building: how do i fix orinoco 13e build |
| 23:38.43 | mickey|building | TheMasterMind1: hold on... i'll bk push the fix |
| 23:39.01 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm, i typed reboot and its re-configuring all packages |
| 23:39.06 | TheMasterMind1 | what triggers that |
| 23:39.18 | kergoth | it touches a stamp at completion |
| 23:39.23 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 23:39.24 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.25 | TheMasterMind1 | beh |
| 23:39.31 | TheMasterMind1 | which means with a full FS it won't work |
| 23:39.37 | kergoth | right |
| 23:40.03 | TheMasterMind1 | is there a fsck for jffs2? |
| 23:41.06 | pb_ | don't think so. |
| 23:41.30 | pb_ | jffs2 is pure log structured, so it's mostly self checking. |
| 23:43.51 | TheMasterMind1 | wha?? |
| 23:43.53 | TheMasterMind1 | dammit |
| 23:43.54 | TheMasterMind1 | don't leave |
| 23:44.25 | mickey|building | hmm... someone has remote locked bk... |
| 23:45.04 | TheMasterMind1 | mickeyl: gr |
