| 00:04.52 | chouimat|food | be back later I need to take a little break |
| 00:19.35 | Harlekin | hmm, kernel build gets confused by gcc3 |
| 00:19.49 | Harlekin | bipolar: did you build the kernel with gcc2 or 3? |
| 00:19.53 | kergoth | it wont use gcc3 for kernel builds unless you told it to explicitly, or gcc2 isnt available. |
| 00:20.10 | kergoth | s/isnt available/ was marked as not available in the config system/ |
| 00:20.11 | Harlekin | yes, but sets the compiler flags like for gcc3 |
| 00:20.15 | kergoth | no, it doesnt. |
| 00:20.19 | Harlekin | just that the gcc2 does not know them |
| 00:20.32 | Harlekin | i did not check the gcc3 option for kernel |
| 00:20.39 | Harlekin | since it says ( not recommended ) ... |
| 00:20.52 | Harlekin | hmmm |
| 00:21.06 | _Psycho | put that on web ! |
| 00:21.07 | Harlekin | just excluded the kernel for now |
| 00:21.08 | _Psycho | hey kergoth |
| 00:21.12 | kergoth | did you set USEFULLPATH to yes in Vars.local |
| 00:21.15 | _Psycho | i tried the built like 30 min ago |
| 00:21.17 | Harlekin | kergoth: yes |
| 00:21.25 | kergoth | and you see it running the 2.95 ver? |
| 00:21.34 | Harlekin | it was, yes |
| 00:21.38 | _Psycho | and the kernel compile was stopping with an asm error on hmm getsize.o ? (maybe something else) |
| 00:21.41 | _Psycho | you had that too ? |
| 00:21.50 | _Psycho | in like /arm/lib |
| 00:21.51 | kergoth | i just built a c700 kernel this afternoon |
| 00:21.58 | Harlekin | but bailed out where the assembler is used with the -Wa -mmarch=mxsale |
| 00:21.59 | kergoth | using two newly generated toolchains, built this afternoon |
| 00:21.59 | _Psycho | weird |
| 00:22.04 | kergoth | 2.95.4 and 3.2.3 |
| 00:22.14 | _Psycho | i did a mr proper and a full clean up before |
| 00:22.15 | kergoth | redhat 7.3 box, which is unusual for me |
| 00:22.17 | _Psycho | anyway |
| 00:22.21 | kergoth | fresh clone here |
| 00:22.29 | kergoth | i dindt have a dev env on this box at all :) |
| 00:22.38 | _Psycho | hmmm |
| 00:22.40 | Harlekin | in bitkeeper, how to start over in a dir ( which was wgetted ) |
| 00:22.45 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:22.47 | Harlekin | remove it? is the build system smart enough? |
| 00:22.50 | kergoth | s/bitkeeper/buildroot/ |
| 00:22.53 | kergoth | it uses stamps |
| 00:22.54 | Harlekin | buildroot |
| 00:22.56 | Harlekin | a |
| 00:22.57 | _Psycho | maybe i try a total flush later, weird then |
| 00:23.03 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/blah clean to wipe build + extracted sources |
| 00:23.14 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/blah to wipe build, sourcetree, and downloaded sources |
| 00:23.18 | kergoth | read docs/BUILD |
| 00:23.24 | kergoth | it outlines the available targets and their use |
| 00:23.44 | Harlekin | currently building a compilte qt2-X11 to get uic ... |
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| 01:02.20 | TheMasterMind1 | Dessimat0r: how is the gcc3 build |
| 01:02.34 | TheMasterMind1 | i'd use it but then i can't use any of the software on my SD card |
| 01:02.49 | chouimat | hmmmm beer or coffee |
| 01:03.47 | ljp_laptop | coffee and wine |
| 01:03.49 | Dessimat0r | a bit slow in rendering GUI elements, but its due to the Bitstream-Vera |
| 01:04.19 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: that tooo I have a very nice rose here :) |
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| 01:16.25 | treke|home | dammit. was just at the market and forgot to get water :( |
| 01:16.30 | treke|home | nothing but alcohol in the house |
| 01:16.51 | chouimat | treke|home: coffee? |
| 01:17.02 | treke|home | nope |
| 01:18.10 | drw | treke|home: hi, did you upload the new oz-ipaq image? I still see the old one... |
| 01:26.20 | Dessimat0r | treke|home: whats up with the water from the tap? |
| 01:26.44 | treke|home | Dessimat0r: It tastes like shit? |
| 01:26.48 | Dessimat0r | treke|home: ah |
| 01:27.52 | ljp_laptop | dont drink tap water. its polluted |
| 01:29.09 | chouimat | ljp_laptop: get a brita filter |
| 01:31.31 | ljp_laptop | I have one. I usually buy bottled spring water in 5 gallons |
| 01:32.43 | chouimat | hmmm since I will be up all night to work on that thing I will go take a shower right now |
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| 01:47.42 | icefox | http://dinomite.net/photos/photo.php?gallery=RIT/people/&file=zaurus%20lick%200.JPG |
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| 01:58.29 | Speedy2 | Is Tim here? Let's see... |
| 02:03.53 | _Psycho | ~pester TimRiker |
| 02:03.54 | | TimRiker: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? |
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| 03:11.41 | Dessimat0r | gn |
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| 03:44.37 | TheMasterMind1 | ~(1.04 * 525) |
| 03:44.37 | | 546 |
| 03:44.45 | TheMasterMind1 | ~(546+45) |
| 03:44.46 | | 591 |
| 03:44.49 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmf |
| 03:48.01 | Bala | calculating tax and shipping?? |
| 03:54.50 | TheMasterMind1 | ay |
| 03:54.58 | TheMasterMind1 | 4% if i pay via paypal |
| 03:59.54 | tiptone | ouch, looks like alot |
| 04:03.55 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 04:03.58 | TheMasterMind1 | so i won't use paypal |
| 04:04.01 | TheMasterMind1 | hopefully i can use CC |
| 04:05.32 | tiptone | you getting the 750? |
| 04:05.40 | TheMasterMind1 | ya |
| 04:06.45 | tiptone | hmm, i'm jealous |
| 04:06.59 | tiptone | i'm buying a fridge tomorrow |
| 04:07.05 | tiptone | not quite as fun |
| 04:08.40 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:08.45 | TheMasterMind1 | not quite |
| 04:09.11 | TheMasterMind1 | fishy: from where |
| 04:09.20 | fishy | conics |
| 04:09.34 | TheMasterMind1 | doing a multiorder? |
| 04:09.41 | fishy | no |
| 04:09.46 | TheMasterMind1 | i'll go with conics if we can get 8 other people interested |
| 04:09.48 | TheMasterMind1 | its a lot cheaper.. |
| 04:10.01 | TheMasterMind1 | $550 i think |
| 04:10.09 | fishy | SL-C750 ... $629 USD (May 24th onwards) |
| 04:10.09 | fishy | SL-C760 ... $729 USD (June 21st onwards) |
| 04:10.09 | fishy | Shipping (EMS insured with internet tracking) |
| 04:10.09 | fishy | $19 USD to the USA / Canada / Australia |
| 04:10.11 | fishy | $25 USD to Europe |
| 04:10.22 | TheMasterMind1 | yea but with 10 person group order |
| 04:10.24 | TheMasterMind1 | its $550 |
| 04:10.42 | fishy | hmm |
| 04:10.53 | fishy | how many you got?> |
| 04:10.57 | TheMasterMind1 | http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=3668&s=d51f7a540820f2e5f147b23c8ee0985e |
| 04:12.56 | fishy | how many people? |
| 04:15.17 | sonix` | sup tmm1 |
| 04:15.36 | sonix` | i decided that i'll get a c750 from dynamism, that is if I can get it before the 11th. |
| 04:15.49 | fishy | why dynamism? |
| 04:16.27 | sonix` | the warantee is it. |
| 04:16.33 | sonix` | plus, i dont want to deal with wiretransfers. |
| 04:16.38 | sonix` | i like just credit card order |
| 04:17.01 | fishy | yea :/ |
| 04:17.25 | TheMasterMind1 | brando/conics don't take CC? |
| 04:17.46 | fishy | conics ---> not over $500 |
| 04:18.02 | sonix` | yeah |
| 04:18.09 | sonix` | plus shipping time. |
| 04:18.16 | sonix` | i wont be around after june 11th |
| 04:19.30 | fishy | my birthday --> June 9th :) |
| 04:19.35 | fishy | pretty good timing :) |
| 04:19.43 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:19.56 | sonix` | heh |
| 04:20.46 | TheMasterMind1 | sigh, just posted in forum. lets see if i can get 10 people interested in conics |
| 04:21.43 | sonix` | TheMasterMind1 just get it from JPN man |
| 04:21.58 | sonix` | and pay 50 bucks to get it here |
| 04:22.00 | sonix` | much cheapa |
| 04:22.29 | TheMasterMind1 | sonix`: eh, how do i do that |
| 04:23.20 | sonix` | find someone in jpn |
| 04:23.24 | sonix` | my friend is going to jpn soon. |
| 04:23.28 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 04:23.29 | TheMasterMind1 | how soon |
| 04:23.38 | sonix` | someone who idles here is from jpn. |
| 04:23.56 | TheMasterMind1 | duno if there is anyone |
| 04:23.57 | sonix` | late june |
| 04:24.17 | tiptone | how much (USD) would it be if bought in japan? |
| 04:24.27 | sonix` | 600. |
| 04:24.31 | sonix` | c750 |
| 04:24.38 | sonix` | shipped and all |
| 04:24.46 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 04:25.25 | tiptone | a friend of mine in japanese, he's just here going to school |
| 04:25.31 | tiptone | still too rich for my blood |
| 04:26.21 | TheMasterMind1 | i bet i can find a some japanese koc players.. |
| 04:26.21 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 04:26.26 | TheMasterMind1 | anyways, time to sleep |
| 04:26.27 | TheMasterMind1 | later |
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| 06:09.27 | djr | ooh |
| 06:09.29 | djr | ismail 1.5.3 |
| 06:09.30 | djr | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.01 | djr | ftp://verbotenplanet.net/ISMail/ISMail-1.5.3.tar.bz2 |
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| 07:24.34 | pnis | hi |
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| 07:33.35 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 07:33.53 | schurig | good sleep |
| 07:33.58 | sonix` | g'night |
| 07:34.19 | chouimat|Zzzz | schurig: yup it's 3h32 here |
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| 08:46.38 | pnis_away | b?ye |
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| 09:08.48 | Twiun | Good morning! |
| 09:15.55 | chouimat|Zzzz | hi Twiun |
| 09:19.46 | Twiun | hrm. the wonders of procrastinating... |
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| 09:27.37 | Twiun | hey carsten |
| 09:28.20 | carsten_ | re |
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| 10:40.20 | mickeyl | moin |
| 10:40.59 | Twiun | hey |
| 10:41.30 | schurig | you do what? Sanding? With real sand? |
| 10:41.43 | Twiun | sandpaper attached to a sander |
| 10:41.54 | Twiun | ... I'm resurfacing the bathtub :) |
| 10:42.03 | Twiun | but the enamel needs a rough surface to bond |
| 10:42.47 | schurig | Twiun: you must have layer of lime in your bathtub ... |
| 10:43.33 | Twiun | schurig: only a bit... biggest problem is someone in the past used a rather strong cleaning fluid |
| 10:43.40 | Twiun | schurig: completely ruined the enamel |
| 10:43.49 | mickeyl | hi Twiun - everything alright? |
| 10:43.57 | Twiun | yeah, I'm cool :) |
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| 11:05.19 | Twiun | right, let's give the powertools a rest for 10mins |
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| 11:57.43 | Tha-Saint | hi all |
| 12:02.41 | zecke | hi bipolar_ |
| 12:02.43 | zecke | Tha-Saint: hi |
| 12:53.23 | absentiaS | re |
| 12:56.48 | zecke | treke|home: ping |
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| 14:19.23 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 14:19.40 | carsten | hi |
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| 15:04.16 | kergoth | yo |
| 15:07.07 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 15:07.13 | pb_ | kergoth: yo. |
| 15:15.59 | Twiun | hey kergoth |
| 15:23.18 | chouimat | kergoth: still nowhere to work :( |
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| 15:31.25 | treke | mornin |
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| 15:51.20 | chouimat | anybody understanding german here? |
| 15:52.03 | lsmith | yes |
| 15:53.54 | chouimat | lsmith: can you tell if they have an email address on that site: www.admin.ws ? |
| 15:54.27 | treke | thats in english.... |
| 15:54.33 | lsmith | ..? |
| 15:56.02 | chouimat | lsmith: nm that worked last night :( |
| 15:57.19 | chouimat | sorry www.admins.ws |
| 15:59.26 | lsmith | well in the metatags there are a bunch if email addis |
| 16:00.00 | lsmith | http://www.admins.ws/modules.php?name=Feedback |
| 16:01.10 | chouimat | lsmith: thanks, I think I will learn german this year |
| 16:02.16 | lsmith | well "kontakt" is "contact" :-) |
| 16:04.09 | chouimat | hehe they have done something I need but only a netbsd biinary version :( |
| 16:04.28 | Dessimat0r | was ist dein Leblingskunst? |
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| 16:12.39 | Twiun | hey tim |
| 16:15.45 | chouimat | hi tim |
| 16:19.25 | Dessimat0r | Is it me, or is http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus down? |
| 16:19.32 | Dessimat0r | Can't seem to access it |
| 16:46.19 | killefiz | Dessimat0r: yes |
| 16:46.47 | killefiz | don't know what's wrong ... the server seems to be down |
| 17:19.28 | chouimat[busy] | killefiz: work here |
| 17:31.07 | killefiz | chouimat[busy]: yes - because i restarted it |
| 17:31.08 | killefiz | ;) |
| 17:31.18 | killefiz | the screen was black |
| 17:47.10 | Twiun | linux box? |
| 18:01.14 | killefiz | yes |
| 18:02.01 | killefiz | noname celeron 2.0 / 1GB / software raid 5 on scsi disks |
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| 18:09.34 | bowser | Hi ppl |
| 18:09.43 | bowser | Anyone here can tell me whether I can connect and USE an USB-PCMCIA Card with an iPAQ or the SimPAD? |
| 18:10.55 | bowser | treke: how comes? |
| 18:11.14 | bowser | here in germany you can get them in nearly every pc-store... |
| 18:11.22 | treke | how come? |
| 18:13.12 | treke | i've seen a bunch of card bus usb cards. no pcmcia ones |
| 18:15.49 | bowser | hmm... |
| 18:16.20 | bowser | pcmcia type II? |
| 18:16.29 | bowser | I don't know the difference |
| 18:17.22 | treke | type II should work. |
| 18:17.24 | treke | card bus wont |
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| 18:20.19 | yeiazel | type I/II/III specify the size of the card. CardBus is the trade name for 32-bit pcmcia card |
| 18:20.28 | yeiazel | +s |
| 18:21.27 | bowser | hmm OK |
| 18:21.28 | treke | I and II i'm pretty sure will work. |
| 18:21.35 | treke | you need to find drivers though |
| 18:23.42 | bowser | hmm |
| 18:23.47 | bowser | thats a problem... |
| 18:24.02 | bowser | I'll be back in a minute... have to restart x |
| 18:24.48 | andersee | Question: I'm sure this is probably an FAQ... What is the status of support for mmc/sd cards on the Z? |
| 18:25.11 | treke | andersee: supported using sharps driver |
| 18:25.11 | andersee | i.e. If I were looking to buy a card what should I get? |
| 18:25.23 | treke | dont get a San Disk |
| 18:25.31 | andersee | treke: binary only driver I presume? |
| 18:25.36 | treke | andersee: yup |
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| 18:26.21 | treke | someone is working on an open source mmc driver |
| 18:26.35 | andersee | treke: Is the binary only driver also needed for mmc cards? Or just for SD cards? |
| 18:26.44 | treke | it's needed for mmc and SD |
| 18:30.25 | andersee | Where do I find out more about the C7xx Zs? |
| 18:31.24 | treke | dunno |
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| 18:34.51 | bowser | Re @ treke |
| 18:51.10 | andersee | So if I were to buy something like a Lexar 128 MB SD card, or a Lexar MMC card -- which is better? |
| 18:52.06 | bipolar | has anyone gotten libsidplay to compile lately? |
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| 18:55.11 | chouimat[busy] | ljp_laptop: good afternoon |
| 18:58.07 | ljp_laptop | hi |
| 19:00.26 | ljp_laptop | what up? |
| 19:00.42 | chouimat[busy] | ljp_laptop: didn't slept last night |
| 19:01.22 | ljp_laptop | why not? |
| 19:01.28 | ljp_laptop | too much work? |
| 19:01.38 | chouimat[busy] | ljp_laptop: vpn problem I stilll on that |
| 19:02.08 | kergoth`lunch | hey ljp |
| 19:03.38 | ljp_laptop | hey kergoth. getting settled in? |
| 19:04.29 | kergoth`lunch | no pc, no cubicle.. but getting there |
| 19:05.57 | ljp_laptop | plant yourself in the hall, that'll get some attention |
| 19:08.10 | kergoth | ibot: brando |
| 19:08.10 | | [brando] sells/exports the Sharp Zaurus and other electronics http://shop.brando.com.hk/ or mailto:brando@brando.com.hk. C700 $500, C750 $525, C760 $610 USD, (and $45 shipping via fedex) use email for zaurus orders, or plus shipping, or no warranty and japanese sortware. |
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| 20:30.17 | kergoth | quiet today |
| 20:30.56 | pb_ | heh |
| 20:31.50 | pb_ | kergoth: I looked at those nptl patches earlier today. seems pretty good, though they are against a rather old version of the code. |
| 20:36.21 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:38.43 | pb_ | just not sure how best to implement THREAD_SELF(). see thread on libc-alpha if you are interested. |
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| 20:54.02 | Twiun | re |
| 20:57.07 | Twiun | hrm. all my apps are segfaulting... |
| 20:57.11 | Twiun | not good |
| 21:03.27 | kergoth | ibot: seen noda |
| 21:03.28 | | noda <~noda@modemcable063.97-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 4d 24m 29s ago, saying: 'Works for me'. |
| 21:04.50 | djr|w | ibot: seen djr|z |
| 21:04.50 | | djr|z <dj@c-24-126-104-15.we.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 12d 13h 25m 5s ago, saying: 'zZzZ'. |
| 21:12.05 | treke | kergoth: I've got current source uploaded |
| 21:12.09 | djr|w | kergoth: upgrading to opie 0.9.9 worked flawlessly on an already installed and set up OZ... i was using oz 3.3.1 from unstable, and all the opie stuff and packages from unstabled (except ipkg and busybox)... and i followed the directions in the users mailing list and upgrading to 0.9.9 flawlessly |
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| 21:20.42 | kergoth | djr|w: excellent. |
| 21:22.07 | djr|w | i have oz installed on my SD though... so if theres any issues, i just pop the SD card out, boot up to the normal fresh OZ... and put the SD card back in and repair as needed... then reboot and boot off the SD card again... but i noticed that if i have to reset it with the switch on the back... when it comes up... it wont boot... |
| 21:22.17 | djr|w | im thinking maybe cause its trying to fsck the SD card but it cant cause its using it |
| 21:22.33 | djr|w | i always hve to pop the card out, then boot to the normal OS< fsck the card, and then reboot under the SD card and it works fine |
| 21:34.31 | NetNut404_Work | I wonder.. the new sharp rom comes with sync software as well.. can that sync software be used with openzaurus in place of the previous intelisync software ? |
| 21:34.43 | kergoth | doubtful. |
| 21:34.52 | kergoth | OZ doesnt use that proprietary binary format of its data files |
| 21:35.21 | pb_ | kergoth: btw, is kernel source available for the latest sharp rom? I couldn't find it on the web the other day. |
| 21:35.29 | pb_ | for sl-5500, that is. |
| 21:35.47 | NetNut404_Work | so in their latest update they have gone to something more proprietary ? |
| 21:36.10 | kergoth | pb_: not as far as I know |
| 21:36.30 | kergoth | pb_: I believe they either used the b500/c700 sources stock as is (they had forward ported collie in that tree), or based on it. |
| 21:36.42 | kergoth | pb_: but I havent emailed them with a formal request or anything yet |
| 21:37.25 | pb_ | kergoth: ah right. I wanted to build some device drivers to use with the new ROM. I guess I can probably use the handhelds.org source and just fudge the version; I expect it's close enough not to cause any serious problems. |
| 21:37.41 | NetNut404_Work | bummer.. guess I will have to stic with the intellistink I have |
| 21:37.43 | pb_ | Or get the b500/c700 sources. that might be a better plan. |
| 21:38.03 | kergoth | pb_: thatd be best. look at the Sources var in packages/kernel-c700/Makefile in an oz buildroot |
| 21:38.13 | pb_ | cool, thanks |
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| 21:38.42 | _Psycho | talking about kernel, im redownloading everything atm, didnt wanted to build earlier |
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| 21:41.49 | absentiaS | re |
| 21:42.15 | kergoth | hey absentiaS, drw |
| 21:42.24 | drw | howdy |
| 21:42.38 | NeoTron | kergoth: what time is it in TX right now? |
| 21:44.22 | _Psycho | hm same thing i keep getting a getuser.S error: Internal_relocation (type: OFFSET_IMM) not fixed up, any idea ? into arch/arm/lib |
| 21:44.27 | _Psycho | building the kernel |
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| 21:45.32 | drw | NeoTron: it's 4:45 there |
| 21:46.20 | kergoth | _Psycho: binutils bug. what toolchain? |
| 21:46.33 | NeoTron | drw: ok, so 2 hrs from here |
| 21:46.50 | _Psycho | well 3.2 |
| 21:46.54 | _Psycho | from a mrproper |
| 21:47.18 | _Psycho | maybe i should erase everything related on gcc3.2 on my pc and retry |
| 21:47.29 | _Psycho | if you said you build a complete one yesterday |
| 21:48.54 | _Psycho | think i should flush /usr/local/arm/3.2 before i build it ? |
| 21:48.59 | kergoth | _what_ 3.2? |
| 21:49.01 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:49.02 | kergoth | wipe it first |
| 21:49.06 | _Psycho | ok i try that |
| 21:49.11 | _Psycho | maybe its just that |
| 21:49.15 | treke | are toolchain builds workign again? |
| 21:49.35 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:49.37 | kergoth | no idea how or why |
| 21:49.46 | kergoth | it just started working again |
| 21:49.52 | _Psycho | what packages i should clear ? binuitls, cross-gcc and gcc-3.2 ? |
| 21:50.17 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS="packages/binutils packages/cross-gcc/3.2-initial packages/cross-gcc/3.2" clean |
| 21:50.23 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS="packages/binutils packages/cross-gcc/3.2-initial packages/cross-gcc/3.2 packages/glibc-2.3" clean |
| 21:50.26 | kergoth | actually |
| 21:50.27 | kergoth | to start fresh |
| 21:50.32 | kergoth | and rm -rf /usr/local/arm/3.2 |
| 21:50.41 | _Psycho | yeah did that |
| 21:51.48 | _Psycho | well will take a while to redownload etc |
| 21:52.06 | kergoth | clean doesnt wipe downloads |
| 21:52.10 | kergoth | mrproper wipes downloads |
| 21:52.17 | _Psycho | yep did that |
| 21:55.29 | TheMasterMind1 | so anyone in here interested in buying from conics? reply to the thread on zaurus.com/dev/board |
| 21:56.41 | _Psycho | already have mine ! |
| 21:56.47 | _Psycho | but i might buy a c760 later |
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| 21:57.35 | absentiaS | what's he order count up to ? |
| 21:57.49 | absentiaS | everyone at work was called into a room and the boss says that 1/3 will be laid off. |
| 21:57.51 | absentiaS | lovely, eh? |
| 21:57.57 | kergoth | absentiaS: ack |
| 21:58.04 | ljp_laptop | wonnerful |
| 21:58.17 | absentiaS | nice way to boost moral, eh ? |
| 21:58.38 | TheMasterMind1 | anyone who hangs out in this channel live in japan? |
| 21:58.47 | absentiaS | one guy... |
| 21:58.50 | kergoth | effy does |
| 21:58.51 | TheMasterMind1 | be damn cheaper to get em to ship me one i think |
| 21:58.52 | kergoth | dunno about anyone else |
| 21:58.53 | absentiaS | that I saw. |
| 21:58.55 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot seen effy |
| 21:58.56 | | effy <effy@M058064.ppp.dion.ne.jp> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 2d 8h 17m 23s ago, saying: 'j/p'. |
| 21:59.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmmmmm |
| 21:59.06 | kergoth | j/p? |
| 21:59.08 | kergoth | wtf does that mean |
| 21:59.11 | absentiaS | ibot seen effy-kun |
| 21:59.11 | | effy-kun <effy@M058064.ppp.dion.ne.jp> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 2d 2h 16m ago, saying: 'wiki'. |
| 21:59.37 | tgall | j/p == Justice of the Peace ?? :-) |
| 22:01.30 | TheMasterMind1 | just playing? |
| 22:01.39 | ljp_laptop | j/p == Japanese Poontang |
| 22:13.01 | Dessimat0r | How would I go about changing back to using Helectiva from Bitstream-Vera? |
| 22:13.30 | Dessimat0r | qpf-bitstream-vera-light is depended on my opie-common |
| 22:13.34 | Dessimat0r | *my = by |
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| 22:17.32 | kergoth | yes, it is |
| 22:17.34 | kergoth | install helv |
| 22:18.33 | Twiun | argh. it wasn't X misbehaving... |
| 22:18.39 | Twiun | damn CPU overheated |
| 22:19.05 | yeiazel | AMD ? :) |
| 22:19.08 | Dessimat0r | ah, thanks ;) |
| 22:19.10 | chouimat|away | yay! 34h15 uptime |
| 22:19.32 | Twiun | yeiazel: Yeah.. could fry eggs on it :) |
| 22:19.36 | yeiazel | :) |
| 22:19.43 | Dessimat0r | but how do you remove bitstream-vera-light using ipkg? |
| 22:19.52 | Twiun | yeiazel: of course, it doesn't help that the temp is 25C outside |
| 22:19.54 | Dessimat0r | it will be taking up unnecessary space |
| 22:20.07 | Dessimat0r | its depended upon, so its not easy |
| 22:20.23 | pb_ | alias ipkg='ipkg --force-depends' |
| 22:20.37 | Dessimat0r | ah, thanks |
| 22:20.56 | Twiun | kergoth: I can't try those 2.4.19 sources tonight, but I'll do my best tomorrow |
| 22:21.36 | yeiazel | Twiun: only 25 ? |
| 22:21.44 | yeiazel | where are you ? |
| 22:22.09 | Twiun | Now I've got a 18 inch fan blowing straight into the case, I shouldn't have any more problems tonight... |
| 22:22.21 | Twiun | yeiazel: Londres, Grande Bretagne |
| 22:22.35 | ljp_laptop | you need liquid cooled cpu |
| 22:22.54 | Twiun | ljp_laptop: correction... I need £££ - then I can get a liquid-colled cpu |
| 22:22.57 | yeiazel | Twiun: :) |
| 22:23.21 | yeiazel | Twiun: approx. 30C in Paris this afternoon :) |
| 22:23.44 | Twiun | yeiazel: completely unbearable |
| 22:23.54 | ljp_laptop | ahh. I have a koolance case I have to put in storage |
| 22:25.14 | Twiun | ljp_laptop: I know, ship it to me at TT's expense |
| 22:25.49 | Dessimat0r | Is it technically possible to turn a 30mb/ps WiFi card into a hub? (10mb/ps per linkage) |
| 22:26.11 | Twiun | g'night guys |
| 22:26.11 | ljp_laptop | if I could ship it, I would ship it to myself |
| 22:26.15 | Dessimat0r | gn |
| 22:26.31 | Twiun | ljp_laptop: I know, I know :) |
| 22:35.47 | Dessimat0r | this is unusual.. I'm removing bitstream-vera-light using aqpkg, but its entry remains in the list |
| 22:35.57 | Dessimat0r | its taking ages to remove the status entry, then succeeding |
| 22:36.05 | Dessimat0r | and its on troubleshooting output |
| 22:40.40 | Dessimat0r | 28c in this bedroom atm |
| 22:41.54 | Dessimat0r | wow, fixed @ 7pt dosen't actually look too bad :D |
| 22:53.22 | _Psycho | same kernel error |
| 22:53.25 | _Psycho | anyway i brb later |
| 23:06.40 | Dessimat0r | The Z seems to be suspending while ipkg is doing its thing again |
| 23:06.55 | Dessimat0r | sorry, aqpkg |
| 23:07.01 | Dessimat0r | and it still seems to freeze at times |
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| 23:17.56 | Dessimat0r | The jffs2 process was just eating up all my CPU for no reason o_O |
| 23:17.59 | Dessimat0r | had to reboot |
| 23:20.02 | pb_ | out of space? |
| 23:20.14 | Dessimat0r | no, plenty |
| 23:20.19 | Dessimat0r | about 500k free |
| 23:20.21 | Dessimat0r | :/ |
| 23:20.52 | Dessimat0r | the GCC3 version also seems to stutter loads |
| 23:20.55 | pb_ | ah, sounds like a bug then. |
| 23:20.58 | Dessimat0r | yeah |
| 23:21.17 | Dessimat0r | its meant to be generally faster |
| 23:21.23 | Dessimat0r | but I can't see any speedup |
| 23:21.30 | Dessimat0r | things are actually much slower |
| 23:21.46 | Dessimat0r | you try and scroll something, and it stops, then resumes scrolling |
| 23:21.48 | pb_ | hah |
| 23:24.28 | pb_ | oh, by the way, I could use a little advice from some of you C++ dudes on what to do about the frame unwinding support in glibc. Would anything break if libc6 stopped exporting symbols like __frame_state_for, _Unwind_GetGR and so on? |
| 23:34.35 | kergoth | Got a reply from the dood re: gpl compliance, says unless we made explicit arrangements with every upstream source maintainer to keep said versions around, we need to keep a mirror. replied stating source tarballs will be on the download page alongside image releases, and I'll implement a upstream source mirroring policy on our builds. |
| 23:35.01 | fragglet | kergoth: hi |
| 23:35.34 | kergoth | hey |
| 23:37.24 | treke | <kergoth> Better yet, why dont you play hide and go fuck yourself |
| 23:40.03 | Dessimat0r | o_O |
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| 23:52.48 | Dessimat0r | http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EXP_HPJUSB005 |
| 23:53.00 | Dessimat0r | Any idea if this is compatible with the Z? |
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| 23:57.43 | pb_ | Seems unlikely. The Z cradle port isn't the same as the Jornada, is it? |
