| 00:01.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:04.34 | kergoth | whew, finally |
| 00:04.59 | kergoth | got all the verbosity shit worked out |
| 00:12.45 | kergoth | woot |
| 00:12.51 | kergoth | nice and quiet, but not too quiet |
| 00:12.56 | kergoth | sdmgr started and is happy |
| 00:13.06 | kergoth | time to add opie and confirm its happy as well |
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| 00:39.15 | treke | hrm. boss just ordered one of the compaq tablet pcs |
| 00:39.27 | treke | might have to weasel opie onto it at some point :) |
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| 00:50.12 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:53.20 | TMM1 | sup kergoth |
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| 00:56.37 | kergoth | TMM1: rc3 is about ready to roll |
| 00:57.09 | kergoth | I think i'll fix the cardctl eject hang now though, while i'm in bugfix mode |
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| 01:01.49 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:02.01 | kergoth | need to add a fsck -y in the ramdisk handler |
| 01:02.52 | Neo|Work | kergoth: so.. working more efficient ts but no SD? |
| 01:03.12 | Neo|Work | and working jffs? |
| 01:03.15 | kergoth | Neo|Work: Havent confirmed the ts fix for 2.4.19 on collie yet. |
| 01:03.18 | kergoth | jffs2 works fine |
| 01:03.35 | kergoth | 2.4.19 will not be in any release until post 3.1 |
| 01:03.45 | Neo|Work | what kernel does rc3 have? |
| 01:04.00 | kergoth | 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-embedix + our assload of patches |
| 01:04.22 | kergoth | including accurate battery %, and dsp device for buzzer |
| 01:04.24 | TMM1 | kergoth: gimme a rc3 image |
| 01:04.29 | Neo|Work | ah |
| 01:04.33 | Neo|Work | so still has SD then? |
| 01:04.37 | kergoth | yes |
| 01:04.42 | Neo|Work | btw, the nerk kernel from sharp isn't out? |
| 01:04.45 | kergoth | i dont know where people are getting this idea that it will not. |
| 01:04.46 | Neo|Work | 2.4.18 or whatever? |
| 01:04.47 | kergoth | what kernel? |
| 01:04.54 | kergoth | 2.4.18 is used on the b500/c700 |
| 01:05.00 | Neo|Work | because I thought you were using 2.4.19 or so |
| 01:05.04 | kergoth | that is useless for collie. |
| 01:05.06 | kergoth | yes. |
| 01:05.24 | kergoth | and the binary sd module for 2.4.18 for b500/c700 is useless for collie as well |
| 01:05.38 | treke | kergoth: just manually patch in all the stuff in 2.4.19 except the pats that break SD :) |
| 01:05.58 | kergoth | nothing sharp gives us short of a build of the collie sd module against 2.4.18 sources will help |
| 01:06.01 | kergoth | heh, i thought about it |
| 01:06.05 | kergoth | but it affects the entire block layer |
| 01:06.29 | treke | kergoth: so backport all the block devices to 2.4.6 :) |
| 01:06.31 | kergoth | too many interdependencies to guarantee sanity if we attemp it |
| 01:06.32 | kergoth | bah |
| 01:08.04 | Neo|Work | but in either case, jffs is fixed so I can finally upgrade my 5000? :P |
| 01:08.21 | Neo|Work | ahve to admit though, been using my pocketpc device lately.. |
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| 01:12.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:12.18 | treke | ~lart Neo|work |
| 01:12.20 | kergoth | ifup doesnt appear to be starting udhcpc for some reason |
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| 01:16.20 | kergoth | damnit damnit damnit |
| 01:16.27 | kergoth | 'resume'? |
| 01:16.46 | kergoth | i dont know of a resume hang, except the opie one where it parses the docs |
| 01:17.29 | kergoth | anyone here have a wifi card they can test this image with? |
| 01:17.35 | ljp | dont know that its opie hantging |
| 01:17.39 | ljp | hanging |
| 01:18.01 | ljp | well, something hangs |
| 01:18.06 | kenb | yes. |
| 01:18.11 | kenb | I have wifi card |
| 01:18.15 | DiamondAL | I have a wifi card |
| 01:18.16 | kenb | and I can test roms/images/whatever |
| 01:18.16 | ljp | and its not the applet |
| 01:18.18 | kergoth | this is a console only image right now, i'll build a opie one shortly |
| 01:18.28 | DiamondAL | I am standing by to test |
| 01:18.38 | kergoth | just need to confirm that udhcpc is called when it runs ifup on wlan0 |
| 01:18.40 | ljp | I kinda looked into the resume hang thing... |
| 01:18.48 | kenb | kergoth: point me to rom(s) |
| 01:18.52 | kergoth | k |
| 01:18.58 | DiamondAL | that was one of my orig problems, dhcp |
| 01:19.04 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:19.08 | kergoth | dhcp has always worked fine. |
| 01:19.16 | DiamondAL | it was my router |
| 01:19.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:19.28 | DiamondAL | its fixed with the rc2 |
| 01:19.47 | DiamondAL | wanna try it with the dlink dcf660 |
| 01:20.00 | kergoth | DiamondAL: is that card working for you? |
| 01:20.09 | kergoth | kenb: which kernel are you using? |
| 01:20.09 | DiamondAL | its working now with rc2 |
| 01:20.18 | kenb | kergoth: kernel? 3.1rc2 |
| 01:20.21 | DiamondAL | works great |
| 01:20.23 | kenb | w/updated host-ap |
| 01:20.25 | kergoth | kenb: which one though |
| 01:20.27 | kergoth | kenb: what balance |
| 01:20.29 | kenb | 24/40 |
| 01:20.36 | kergoth | alright, i'll build you one of those |
| 01:20.40 | DiamondAL | i am 64/0 |
| 01:21.44 | kergoth | image is uploading |
| 01:22.13 | kenb | sure |
| 01:22.29 | kergoth | note that since we cant agree on logo colors, the new OE stuff wont be in the rc3 image at release time |
| 01:22.32 | kergoth | heheh |
| 01:22.33 | DiamondAL | man that puter of yours compiles fast, hehehe |
| 01:22.38 | kenb | heh |
| 01:22.54 | kergoth | i just want this shit out the fucking door |
| 01:22.54 | kergoth | been delayed too long |
| 01:22.58 | kenb | yes. |
| 01:23.02 | kergoth | hrm |
| 01:23.07 | kergoth | changelog hasnt been updated in ages |
| 01:23.14 | kergoth | so much shit changed i wouldnt know where to begin |
| 01:23.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:23.20 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:23.22 | DiamondAL | damn |
| 01:24.46 | gaurdian | Hey kergoth , I herd rc3 is close, grats |
| 01:25.04 | kergoth | yeah, been owrking on ironing things out for the release all day |
| 01:25.24 | kergoth | better write up a release announcement i suppose |
| 01:25.29 | gaurdian | heh |
| 01:25.41 | gaurdian | by chance got a change log ? |
| 01:25.52 | kenb | kergoth: need to name it too. |
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| 01:26.59 | kergoth | kenb: good point |
| 01:27.11 | kergoth | gaurdian: not really, theres too much.. i cant even recall everything thats changed |
| 01:27.14 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:27.20 | kergoth | hostap drivers backreved to fix monitor mode |
| 01:27.31 | kergoth | oz-obase/ipkg/modutils/sysvinit/etc package splits |
| 01:27.35 | kergoth | irda bug gone |
| 01:28.12 | kergoth | sysvinit dumping messages over opie on runlevel change is fixed |
| 01:28.22 | kergoth | opie's obex stuff was redone completely |
| 01:28.29 | kergoth | should be better |
| 01:29.04 | kenb | lotsa package splits |
| 01:29.08 | kergoth | numerous packages added too |
| 01:29.09 | kenb | and probably 40 new packages added. |
| 01:29.10 | kergoth | evas |
| 01:29.11 | kergoth | ecore |
| 01:29.12 | kergoth | etc |
| 01:29.13 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:29.39 | kergoth | everything marked -done- on my TODO .. |
| 01:29.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:30.06 | kenb | that too |
| 01:30.10 | kergoth | kenb: http://openzaurus.org/official/experimental/ |
| 01:30.26 | kergoth | DiamondAL: you're welcome to try it too, but remember theres no opie, its pure console |
| 01:30.30 | kergoth | minimal image |
| 01:30.59 | DiamondAL | thats fine |
| 01:31.02 | ljp | thats blasphamy! |
| 01:31.03 | DiamondAL | thanks |
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| 01:31.08 | kenb | putting onto flashcard now. |
| 01:31.12 | kergoth | course you can install opie from unstable if you like |
| 01:31.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:31.14 | kergoth | kenb: cool |
| 01:31.25 | Neo|Work | it has evas on it now? |
| 01:31.31 | kergoth | Neo|Work: in the feeds |
| 01:31.32 | kergoth | Neo|Work: not the images |
| 01:31.35 | kenb | 120k/sec. nice. |
| 01:31.37 | Neo|Work | no offense to raster, but what's the point? ;-) |
| 01:31.40 | kergoth | Neo|Work: all spiffily packaged up |
| 01:31.42 | kergoth | eh? |
| 01:31.52 | kergoth | evas is extremely cool |
| 01:31.53 | Neo|Work | why would you want evas? isn't it like slow? |
| 01:31.59 | kergoth | but wont be useful for much until his server for it |
| 01:32.56 | Neo|Work | I understand it's kind of a spiffy QCanvas or ZSurface-type (but more) thing |
| 01:32.57 | kergoth | I dont know much about the performance of it. i like the concept, and the api |
| 01:33.12 | kergoth | yep, canvasing library |
| 01:33.22 | kenb | okay |
| 01:33.41 | ljp | NeoTron: have you checked out zsurface? it is any good? |
| 01:33.52 | Neo|Work | does it actually have any applications? |
| 01:34.00 | Neo|Work | ljp: warmi wrote it, of course it's good. ;-) |
| 01:34.08 | Neo|Work | seriously though, it is quite fast |
| 01:34.19 | Neo|Work | and I'll probably steal code from it for my own game engine |
| 01:34.32 | kergoth | heh, the only app i know of is the ecore calibrator |
| 01:34.42 | kergoth | (ts calibration) |
| 01:34.45 | ljp | I was thinking about trying it on my vu meters |
| 01:35.02 | kenb | flashng. |
| 01:35.22 | Neo|Work | ljp: it's probably about as fast as blitting goes on these devices |
| 01:36.22 | ljp | is it good on cpu usage? |
| 01:36.37 | Neo|Work | as I said, it's a fast blitter |
| 01:37.47 | kenb | doobie doo. flashie flash flash. |
| 01:38.10 | kergoth | hm, forgot reboot is quiet now too |
| 01:38.17 | kenb | yea |
| 01:38.19 | kergoth | sat there wondering why it was just sitting there |
| 01:38.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:38.20 | kenb | flash done. |
| 01:38.54 | kenb | boot time. |
| 01:39.00 | kergoth | shit, the ramdisk prompt doesnt work. i cant input 'n' |
| 01:39.01 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:39.11 | kenb | ?? |
| 01:39.17 | kergoth | i figured read < /dev/tty0 would work.. |
| 01:39.19 | kergoth | you'll see. |
| 01:39.41 | kenb | so far..please wait: booting.... |
| 01:39.55 | kenb | do I wanna format? [y|n] |
| 01:40.00 | kergoth | that prompt |
| 01:40.00 | kenb | but it seems to have answered for me. |
| 01:40.03 | kergoth | right |
| 01:40.06 | kergoth | same behavior i saw |
| 01:40.07 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:40.13 | kenb | this mean ? |
| 01:40.16 | kergoth | boot's pretty clean eh? |
| 01:40.22 | DiamondAL | kergoth: any preloading instructions for the sysvinit ipk? or just load it with ipkg after flash? |
| 01:40.24 | kenb | yea. |
| 01:40.25 | kergoth | its asking you if you want to wipe your ramdisk. |
| 01:40.28 | kenb | installing ipkgs right now. |
| 01:40.29 | kergoth | DiamondAL: huh? |
| 01:40.39 | kergoth | DiamondAL: sysvinit is installed. i dont know what makes you think it isnt. |
| 01:40.44 | kergoth | DiamondAL: it wouldnt boot at all without init. |
| 01:41.04 | kenb | kergoth: sysvinit is in that dir |
| 01:41.06 | kergoth | DiamondAL: IGNORE everything in that dir |
| 01:41.09 | kenb | yea. |
| 01:41.11 | DiamondAL | you uploaded a sysvinit ipk with the kernels and initrd.bin |
| 01:41.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:41.13 | kergoth | no |
| 01:41.13 | kenb | that's the answer he needed. |
| 01:41.14 | kergoth | i didnt |
| 01:41.19 | kenb | okay. |
| 01:41.19 | kergoth | i uploaded it last week |
| 01:41.21 | kenb | we have login |
| 01:41.21 | DiamondAL | ok |
| 01:41.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:41.34 | kenb | usbnet seems broke. |
| 01:41.58 | kergoth | in what way? |
| 01:42.03 | kenb | not working... |
| 01:42.03 | kergoth | nothing was changed in hotplug or usbd |
| 01:42.08 | kenb | Z didn't bring it up. |
| 01:42.10 | kergoth | its identical to what it was |
| 01:42.14 | kergoth | lsmod |
| 01:42.18 | kenb | let me unplug |
| 01:42.24 | kergoth | you should see usbdmonitor, net_fd, sa1100_bi, usbdcore |
| 01:42.28 | kergoth | (when plugged in) |
| 01:42.37 | Neo|Work | ljp: oh, btw, Zsurface is made for fullscreen mode only |
| 01:42.37 | kenb | i see those. |
| 01:42.47 | kergoth | kenb: ifconfig -a show usbd0 when plugged in? |
| 01:42.50 | kenb | ifconfig doesn't have the IF |
| 01:42.55 | kergoth | -a.. |
| 01:43.06 | kenb | I have it in ifconfig -a |
| 01:43.08 | kenb | no IP tho. |
| 01:43.09 | kergoth | the interface is down if it exists |
| 01:43.10 | ljp | NeoTron: what?! crap! |
| 01:43.14 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:43.18 | kergoth | kenb: try ifdown usbd0; ifup usbd0 |
| 01:43.24 | kenb | I haven't booting after the install... |
| 01:43.43 | kenb | ifdown usbd0 not configured |
| 01:43.58 | kenb | ah |
| 01:44.04 | kergoth | ah, did you boot the Z plugged into usb?? |
| 01:44.04 | kenb | ifup usbd0 helped. |
| 01:44.10 | kenb | yes. |
| 01:44.10 | kergoth | i think usbd didnt generate an insert hotplug event |
| 01:44.12 | kergoth | right |
| 01:44.14 | kergoth | usbd flaw |
| 01:44.18 | kenb | i booted w/USB |
| 01:44.25 | kergoth | it should generate an insert event on initial load if you were on usb at load time |
| 01:44.26 | kenb | since I have the ZThinUSB cable. |
| 01:44.46 | kergoth | alrighty, i knew about that one. its been around for a while |
| 01:44.49 | kenb | okay, so it's online again. |
| 01:44.50 | kergoth | try out wireless if you would |
| 01:44.51 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:44.52 | DiamondAL | flashing |
| 01:44.57 | kenb | lemme ifup wlan0 ? |
| 01:45.26 | kergoth | itll call ifup itself |
| 01:45.28 | kergoth | at card insertion time |
| 01:45.31 | kenb | oops. |
| 01:45.35 | kenb | card was inserted while booted. |
| 01:45.38 | kergoth | is wireless.opts correct? |
| 01:45.43 | kergoth | cardmgr should generate the insert event as well.. |
| 01:45.49 | kenb | same as usb problem... |
| 01:45.59 | kenb | none of that stuff's fully installed during 1st boot. |
| 01:46.02 | kergoth | did hostap_cs get loaded? |
| 01:46.07 | kergoth | its not a first boot problem |
| 01:46.11 | kenb | Module Size Used by |
| 01:46.11 | kergoth | its a _boot_ problem |
| 01:46.11 | kenb | hostap_cs 43744 0 |
| 01:46.11 | kenb | hostap 60880 0 [hostap_cs] |
| 01:46.11 | kenb | hostap_crypt 1584 0 [hostap] |
| 01:46.15 | kergoth | okay good |
| 01:46.18 | kergoth | that means pcmcia picked up the insertion |
| 01:46.22 | kenb | ifconfig -a shows wlan0 interface. |
| 01:46.24 | kergoth | otherwise none of that would be loaded |
| 01:46.41 | kenb | # ifup wlan0 |
| 01:46.41 | kenb | ifup: interface wlan0 already configured |
| 01:46.43 | kenb | odd. |
| 01:46.46 | kenb | it's not configured. |
| 01:46.46 | kergoth | right, it did bring it up |
| 01:46.50 | kergoth | or tried to |
| 01:46.55 | kergoth | let me guess, udhcpc isnt running? |
| 01:46.57 | kergoth | ps -ef |
| 01:47.12 | kergoth | are you using dhcp for that matter? |
| 01:47.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:47.15 | kenb | ifdown / ifup it doesn't help. |
| 01:47.18 | kenb | yea, dhcp |
| 01:47.18 | Neo|Work | fucking hell. Now' |
| 01:47.27 | kergoth | okay, is udhcpc running? |
| 01:47.27 | kenb | no dhcp running. |
| 01:47.29 | kenb | nope, |
| 01:47.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:47.33 | DiamondAL | flash done |
| 01:47.35 | kergoth | okay, udhcpc -i wlan0 |
| 01:47.35 | Neo|Work | they are renaming French Fries and French Toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast |
| 01:47.36 | kergoth | does that work? |
| 01:47.38 | kenb | # ps ef|grep dh |
| 01:47.38 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.39 | Neo|Work | wtfing hell |
| 01:47.40 | kergoth | Neo|Work: stupid fuckers |
| 01:47.43 | Neo|Work | http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/freedom.fries/index.html |
| 01:47.53 | kenb | kergoth: that worked. |
| 01:47.56 | kenb | got wireless. |
| 01:48.00 | kergoth | okay, so you see the same behavior i do |
| 01:48.07 | kenb | yup. bug confirmed. |
| 01:48.08 | kergoth | for some reason ifupdown is being a bitch |
| 01:48.11 | kergoth | hrm |
| 01:48.31 | kenb | hm. ifup is binary. can't fix it easily ;( |
| 01:48.48 | kergoth | yeap |
| 01:48.52 | kergoth | and ifupdown is ugly shit too man |
| 01:48.54 | _Psycho | what bug ? |
| 01:48.57 | kergoth | its generated code |
| 01:49.11 | kergoth | _Psycho: ifupdown from buildroot isnt running the dhcp client for some reason |
| 01:49.19 | kergoth | hrmm |
| 01:49.21 | _Psycho | hmmm |
| 01:49.38 | kenb | read(3, "", 4096) = 0 |
| 01:49.38 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/dhclient", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.38 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/pump", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.38 | kenb | stat64("/usr/sbin/udhcpc", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.38 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/dhcpcd", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.39 | kenb | fork() = 3460 |
| 01:49.41 | kenb | wait4(3460, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], 0, NULL) = 3460 |
| 01:49.43 | kenb | --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- |
| 01:49.45 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/dhclient", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.47 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/pump", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.49 | kenb | stat64("/usr/sbin/udhcpc", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.51 | kenb | stat64("/sbin/dhcpcd", 0xbffff7e0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 01:49.53 | kenb | fork() = 3462 |
| 01:49.55 | kenb | wait4(3462, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], 0, NULL) = 3462 |
| 01:49.57 | kenb | it can't find it. |
| 01:50.00 | _Psycho | not sure, last time i plugged my wirless into my c700 everything got up and got an dhcp address |
| 01:50.02 | kergoth | aha |
| 01:50.08 | kenb | it's not even looking for it. |
| 01:50.17 | kenb | well, it is... |
| 01:50.25 | kenb | but it's not in /usr/sbin |
| 01:50.26 | kergoth | its looking in /usr/sbin |
| 01:50.31 | kergoth | not /sbin |
| 01:50.31 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:50.32 | kergoth | so lets see |
| 01:50.38 | kergoth | which is the correct path? |
| 01:50.40 | kenb | so who's fault is this.... |
| 01:50.47 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.49 | kenb | like all the others. |
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| 01:50.58 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:51.08 | kenb | one of these dhcpd is not like the others... |
| 01:51.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:51.16 | kenb | (and thanks for including strace) |
| 01:51.24 | kenb | make this debug a *snap* |
| 01:51.30 | DiamondAL | putting wifi card in |
| 01:52.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:52.15 | kergoth | i always include gdb and strace in my console only test images |
| 01:52.17 | kergoth | just good policy |
| 01:52.21 | kenb | kergoth: symlink fixed it. |
| 01:52.26 | kergoth | right |
| 01:52.28 | kenb | so that's the issue. |
| 01:52.29 | kergoth | i just fixed ifupdown |
| 01:52.31 | kergoth | okay, whew |
| 01:52.35 | kenb | jea. |
| 01:52.36 | kergoth | one bug down.. time to test opie |
| 01:52.39 | kenb | I'm useful sometimes. |
| 01:52.46 | DiamondAL | kergoth it loaded the modules but no dhcp |
| 01:52.46 | kergoth | hows it look otherwise? |
| 01:52.53 | kergoth | DiamondAL: ln -sf /sbin/udhcpc /usr/sbin/udhcpc |
| 01:52.58 | kenb | nother else abnormal found. |
| 01:53.00 | kergoth | DiamondAL: i think you missed our conversation |
| 01:53.11 | kenb | kergoth: I linked directly to busybox |
| 01:53.26 | kenb | it got my SDcard mounted on boot too. |
| 01:53.27 | DiamondAL | yep |
| 01:53.29 | _Psycho | opie !~ im your guys :) |
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| 01:53.44 | kergoth | I need to add a call to fsck in the ramdisk handler |
| 01:53.46 | kergoth | for mtdblock6 |
| 01:53.48 | _Psycho | i just added a mkdir /mnt/something for SD card ot mount on boot |
| 01:54.12 | kergoth | kenb: so only usbd is broken on first boot. good to know |
| 01:54.17 | kenb | looks that way. |
| 01:54.23 | kenb | I will reboot again now. |
| 01:54.28 | _Psycho | does fsck,jppf2 exist ? when i mount /dev/mtdblock3, im getting some errors, but no command under the normal rom |
| 01:54.28 | kergoth | that oen should probably be an faq eh |
| 01:54.28 | kenb | hm |
| 01:54.37 | kenb | it still says "please wait: booting..." |
| 01:54.37 | kergoth | _Psycho: you dont need to fsck jffs2. |
| 01:54.42 | kenb | kergoth: yea, a FAQ |
| 01:54.47 | kenb | oh wait. |
| 01:54.50 | kenb | this is a console image. |
| 01:54.52 | kergoth | kenb: thats all it'll say until you're booted. |
| 01:54.54 | _Psycho | how do i correct the 1-2 CRC error ^ |
| 01:55.03 | kergoth | please wait -> login |
| 01:55.10 | kenb | USBdnet is still busted on boot |
| 01:55.13 | kenb | jea |
| 01:55.26 | kenb | kergoth: wireless came up at boot time. |
| 01:55.36 | kenb | with the udhcpc symlink |
| 01:55.59 | _Psycho | what do you wanted on the faq ? |
| 01:56.02 | kergoth | kenb: great |
| 01:56.24 | kergoth | the fact that if you boot your Z with it on USB, you have to bring up usbd0 manually |
| 01:56.27 | kenb | _Psycho: usb doesn't come up when you boot while on crable or USB cable. |
| 01:56.29 | kergoth | because usbd doesnt pick up an insert event |
| 01:56.35 | _Psycho | oh i see |
| 01:56.35 | kenb | what he said. |
| 01:56.50 | kenb | you have to either unplug/plug, or ifup usbd0 |
| 01:56.54 | _Psycho | added in in my text file |
| 01:57.04 | kergoth | yeah. i'm pretty happy with this image. feels pretty clean, uncluttered. |
| 01:57.25 | _Psycho | you can simulate a plug in at boot ? |
| 01:57.26 | kenb | hm |
| 01:57.29 | kenb | resume broken? |
| 01:57.40 | kenb | apparently. |
| 01:57.52 | kenb | i suspended while @ console. |
| 01:57.57 | kenb | it's not coming back to life. |
| 01:58.12 | kergoth | suspended how? |
| 01:58.15 | _Psycho | hey ker you ever fixed that auto-completion tab freeze ? |
| 01:58.18 | kenb | cancel button for 2 seconds. |
| 01:58.25 | kergoth | yeah, it does that |
| 01:58.37 | kergoth | its due to the same apmd we work around that results in the suspend delay |
| 01:58.41 | kergoth | run apm -s from console to suspend |
| 01:58.45 | kenb | rc2 didn't... at least while opie is running.. |
| 01:58.48 | kergoth | s/apmd/apmd bug/ |
| 01:58.52 | kergoth | kenb: pure console is different |
| 01:59.00 | kenb | ah. opie does the apmd -s |
| 01:59.02 | kergoth | kenb: in opie, opie catches it, in console, _kernel_ catches it |
| 01:59.03 | kergoth | right |
| 01:59.25 | kergoth | the unit wakes up when you suspend w/ apm -s, right? |
| 01:59.31 | kenb | will test now. |
| 01:59.54 | kenb | nope. |
| 02:00.07 | kenb | apm -s |
| 02:00.12 | kenb | permission denied |
| 02:00.13 | kergoth | it doesnt? |
| 02:00.13 | kenb | permission denied |
| 02:00.15 | kergoth | er |
| 02:00.17 | kenb | off. |
| 02:00.17 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:00.20 | kenb | never to return. |
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| 02:00.25 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 02:00.36 | kergoth | shit |
| 02:00.37 | kenb | at least it boots fast |
| 02:00.39 | kergoth | devcheck has bad perms |
| 02:00.40 | kenb | yes, shit. |
| 02:00.43 | kergoth | chmod 755 /usr/bin/devcheck |
| 02:00.45 | kergoth | then try |
| 02:00.46 | Dessimat0r | ooh ooh, where is it? |
| 02:00.50 | Dessimat0r | lol |
| 02:00.53 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: its console only right now |
| 02:00.54 | Dessimat0r | I need to flash! :D |
| 02:00.55 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:00.57 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: we're working out base system kinks |
| 02:01.01 | kergoth | pretty much done now though |
| 02:01.04 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:01.06 | kergoth | i'm building opie |
| 02:01.12 | Dessimat0r | 0wnage ;) |
| 02:01.16 | _Psycho | indeed |
| 02:01.23 | _Psycho | hey ker you ever fixed that auto-completion tab freeze ? <-- |
| 02:01.29 | kenb | script: no such file or directory |
| 02:01.32 | kenb | off. |
| 02:01.32 | kergoth | _Psycho: bah, you just want me to release this so i can finish c700 opie support |
| 02:01.36 | kergoth | _Psycho: :) |
| 02:01.42 | kenb | never to return either. |
| 02:01.44 | _Psycho | i know thats what i want dammit =p |
| 02:01.56 | Dessimat0r | Can you scroll the screen up and down in the console? |
| 02:02.08 | kenb | kergoth: "script" is missing, it seems. |
| 02:02.15 | _Psycho | dont think so dessi, i tried some keys, but not all |
| 02:02.22 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:02.35 | Dessimat0r | i think its like shift + page up / down |
| 02:02.47 | Dessimat0r | put pg up/down is missing on the Z |
| 02:02.48 | _Psycho | yeah but we dont exactly have a page up page down ;) |
| 02:02.48 | kergoth | kenb: fixing |
| 02:02.51 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 02:02.59 | kenb | script = shift || exit 1 |
| 02:02.59 | kenb | check_device && echo $device |
| 02:03.04 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:03.05 | kergoth | change it |
| 02:03.09 | kergoth | to script=shift || exit 1 |
| 02:03.13 | kergoth | . $script |
| 02:03.17 | kergoth | check_device && echo $device |
| 02:03.21 | kergoth | those 3 lines |
| 02:03.26 | kergoth | then apm -s |
| 02:03.31 | Dessimat0r | it would be a really useful feature to have, if the key could be remapped to some unused key combination ;) |
| 02:03.34 | _Psycho | Dessi you have a c700 thingie of god too ^ |
| 02:03.35 | _Psycho | ? |
| 02:03.36 | Dessimat0r | *keys |
| 02:03.40 | kenb | $script? |
| 02:03.41 | kenb | k |
| 02:03.45 | Dessimat0r | _Psycho: nope ;) |
| 02:03.46 | _Psycho | yes a lots, like a control+c :) |
| 02:03.59 | kenb | same error. |
| 02:04.02 | kergoth | _Psycho: just wait for me to rewrite their stupid ass keyboard driver |
| 02:04.05 | kergoth | kenb: |
| 02:04.15 | kergoth | script=shift || exit 1 |
| 02:04.18 | kergoth | . $script |
| 02:04.19 | _Psycho | i know kergoth, i wanted to have a peak of it too but like im so learning a lots of stuff |
| 02:04.22 | kergoth | check_device && echo $device |
| 02:04.25 | kenb | kergoth: that's what I had. |
| 02:04.35 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:04.37 | kergoth | oh |
| 02:04.39 | kergoth | sorry |
| 02:04.41 | kergoth | thinking perl syntax |
| 02:04.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:04.48 | Dessimat0r | I suggest an extra levels of keys : Shift + Fn + Key |
| 02:04.51 | _Psycho | i have to install bit keeper too, i finnaly setted up my pc like i wanted mostly on debian ;) |
| 02:05.00 | kergoth | [ -z "$1" ] && exit 1 |
| 02:05.03 | _Psycho | dessimat0r tahts would be great indeed |
| 02:05.05 | kergoth | . $1 |
| 02:05.09 | kergoth | check_device && echo $device |
| 02:05.11 | kergoth | kenb: try those 3 |
| 02:05.12 | Dessimat0r | you can easily press both at once |
| 02:05.18 | kenb | k |
| 02:05.24 | Dessimat0r | all you need to do is put your fat thumb on there ;) |
| 02:05.33 | Dessimat0r | then it presses both |
| 02:05.34 | Dessimat0r | hehe |
| 02:05.34 | kenb | script = shift || exit 1 |
| 02:05.34 | kenb | . $1 |
| 02:05.35 | kenb | check_device && echo $device |
| 02:05.40 | kenb | script: no such file or directory |
| 02:05.43 | kergoth | nonononononon |
| 02:05.46 | kergoth | NO script line! |
| 02:05.50 | kergoth | #!/bin/sh |
| 02:05.54 | kergoth | [ -z "$1" ] && exit 1 |
| 02:05.57 | kergoth | . $1 |
| 02:06.03 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.04 | kenb | k |
| 02:06.15 | kenb | sorrt, des's q's broke it up so I missed the 1st line. |
| 02:06.19 | Dessimat0r | does prelink work okay in RC3? |
| 02:06.20 | _Psycho | yeah like FN + shift + up and down, and replace the 2 japanese key for a ctrl and alt, and shift-fn + 1-9 for F1-F9 ;) |
| 02:06.26 | Dessimat0r | yeah |
| 02:06.29 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: eh? nobody said anything about prelinking. |
| 02:06.33 | kergoth | no. |
| 02:06.38 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:06.43 | kenb | odd. usbd is coming up on boot now |
| 02:06.57 | kergoth | kenb: what wonderful consistency |
| 02:06.58 | kergoth | kenb: bleh |
| 02:07.01 | _Psycho | haha |
| 02:07.24 | kenb | works. |
| 02:07.38 | kenb | funny seeing apm -s return to prompt for a splitsecond. |
| 02:07.43 | kenb | okay, so that's fixed. |
| 02:07.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:07.53 | kergoth | okay good |
| 02:08.32 | kenb | since I chmod 755'd devcheck.. |
| 02:08.36 | kenb | usb works on boot. |
| 02:08.40 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:08.43 | kergoth | thats odd |
| 02:08.46 | kenb | very. |
| 02:08.51 | kenb | I will un chmod it. |
| 02:08.54 | kergoth | i dont think the usbd stuff even uses our device identification functions |
| 02:08.55 | kergoth | k |
| 02:09.13 | kenb | we'll know in a second. |
| 02:09.25 | kergoth | well |
| 02:09.52 | kergoth | we need to fix that ramdisk handler prompt |
| 02:09.57 | kergoth | but i'll return to that later |
| 02:09.58 | kergoth | opie first |
| 02:10.00 | kenb | i am correct. |
| 02:10.12 | kergoth | devcheck makes usbd work? |
| 02:10.36 | kenb | retesting. |
| 02:10.39 | kergoth | thats completely nonsensical |
| 02:10.42 | kenb | I know. |
| 02:10.43 | kergoth | but i'm not going to argue with a good thing |
| 02:10.46 | kergoth | :D |
| 02:10.50 | kergoth | whatever works |
| 02:10.50 | kenb | I'm setting it back tp 755 now |
| 02:11.11 | kenb | yup |
| 02:11.13 | kenb | it works again. |
| 02:11.24 | kenb | next? |
| 02:11.27 | kenb | ;) |
| 02:11.34 | kergoth | i dont have a next one .. yet |
| 02:11.38 | kenb | k |
| 02:11.40 | kergoth | unless you want to try figuring out that problem |
| 02:11.43 | kergoth | prompt problem |
| 02:11.49 | kenb | prompt? |
| 02:11.51 | kergoth | actually thats a good idea |
| 02:11.53 | kergoth | the ramdisk prompt |
| 02:11.56 | kergoth | how it just zips past you |
| 02:11.59 | kenb | yea |
| 02:12.01 | kergoth | at a prompt, do |
| 02:12.12 | kergoth | read -t 15 var |
| 02:12.20 | kergoth | does it return immediately, or hang for 15 seconds? |
| 02:12.40 | kergoth | (on the z of course0 |
| 02:12.42 | kenb | read: illegal option -t |
| 02:12.55 | kenb | well, different caps. |
| 02:13.00 | kergoth | well well |
| 02:13.02 | kenb | I'm doing this on console and manually retyping. |
| 02:13.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:13.18 | kenb | usage: read [-ers] [-u fd] [-t timeout] |
| 02:13.21 | kenb | so read is broken. |
| 02:13.25 | kenb | it forgot how to do -t |
| 02:13.34 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:13.41 | kenb | odd. |
| 02:13.45 | kenb | it um.. |
| 02:13.48 | kenb | on ssh... |
| 02:13.51 | kenb | it seems to work. |
| 02:13.58 | kenb | it does work on SSH |
| 02:14.09 | kergoth | er |
| 02:14.12 | kenb | yes. |
| 02:14.13 | kergoth | did you install bash or something :) |
| 02:14.21 | kenb | i haven't instally anything on it yet. |
| 02:14.26 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:14.34 | kergoth | thats pretty odd. |
| 02:14.36 | kenb | wtf. |
| 02:14.46 | kenb | read --help on console: --help illegal option |
| 02:14.56 | kenb | do you have a different shell for console vs. ssh? |
| 02:15.16 | kenb | wai t asec. |
| 02:15.25 | kenb | fuck. |
| 02:16.20 | kenb | okay |
| 02:16.27 | kenb | read on the Z doesn't support -t |
| 02:16.32 | kenb | even over ssh ;/ |
| 02:16.48 | kenb | so ash doesn't handle it. |
| 02:16.57 | kergoth | yep, reading it now |
| 02:17.04 | kergoth | read in busybox only supports -p |
| 02:17.05 | kergoth | i.e. |
| 02:17.12 | kergoth | read -p "[y/n]?" var |
| 02:17.15 | kergoth | p = prompt |
| 02:17.19 | kenb | hm |
| 02:17.22 | kergoth | but we need t, to time out! |
| 02:17.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:17.27 | kenb | yes. |
| 02:18.24 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:18.40 | kergoth | well, guess we can add it |
| 02:19.04 | Dessimat0r | http://www.zsh.org/mla/workers/2003/msg00090.html |
| 02:19.08 | Dessimat0r | this of any use? |
| 02:19.08 | mewyn | hrm... |
| 02:19.17 | mewyn | can anyone get to dynamism |
| 02:19.26 | kenb | Dessimat0r: nice! |
| 02:19.29 | Dessimat0r | ;) |
| 02:19.37 | kenb | but that's zsh |
| 02:19.40 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 02:19.54 | kenb | so not much use here. |
| 02:20.35 | Dessimat0r | http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2002-October/012315.html |
| 02:20.38 | Dessimat0r | this is ash |
| 02:21.03 | kergoth | okay, well its not required by the standard |
| 02:21.04 | kergoth | http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/read.html |
| 02:21.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:21.35 | Dessimat0r | ah, was it needed for anything important? |
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| 02:23.53 | Dess|Away | ibot seen Onyx4 |
| 02:23.54 | | onyx4 <onyx4@adsl-63-194-216-219.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 37d 5h 23m 39s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 02:24.00 | Dess|Away | ibot seen AndyQ |
| 02:24.01 | | andyq <~AndyQ@pc-62-31-42-4-hy.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #openembedded, 9d 4h 18m 45s ago, saying: 'I doubt Dell will be that forthcoming - although I could be mistaken.'. |
| 02:25.24 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:25.35 | kergoth | should it always wipe ramdisk on first flash of an initrd? |
| 02:25.39 | Dess|Away | AndyQ is actually online atm, just pinged him. That is, if his ip is static ;) |
| 02:25.42 | kergoth | it wont wipe it on flash of a zImage, though it probably should |
| 02:25.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:25.58 | kergoth | maybe i'll have it store the mtdram size |
| 02:26.03 | kergoth | in flash somewhere |
| 02:26.06 | kenb | wipe the CF card?! |
| 02:26.09 | kergoth | and if it changes, propmt |
| 02:26.15 | kergoth | wipe ramdisk. |
| 02:26.17 | kergoth | mtdblock6 |
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| 02:26.31 | kenb | ah |
| 02:26.32 | kenb | yea. |
| 02:26.46 | kergoth | if we add ab it more intelligence, the prompt becomes unnecessary |
| 02:27.13 | kergoth | if its size changes, wipe regardless |
| 02:27.35 | kergoth | if the initrd was wiped.. should we wipe the ramdisk? i.e. if hte user flashes a new initrd |
| 02:28.12 | kergoth | treke|home: course we can have slightly more power to the script for nvrd handling.. mtdram is simplistic |
| 02:28.29 | TMM1 | how is rc3 |
| 02:28.44 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:28.46 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o TheMasterMind1] by ChanServ |
| 02:28.46 | kergoth | if they flash initrd.bin |
| 02:28.52 | kergoth | our knowledge of the previous size of the mtdram is lost |
| 02:28.57 | kergoth | so we should probably prompt |
| 02:29.14 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 02:29.16 | kergoth | or just wipe? |
| 02:29.17 | kergoth | opinions? |
| 02:29.18 | TheMasterMind1 | and if they enter a bad value |
| 02:29.23 | kergoth | no, it prompts y/n |
| 02:29.39 | kergoth | do you want to wipe your ramdisk |
| 02:29.45 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 02:29.46 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 02:29.51 | TheMasterMind1 | thats what i suggested a whiles back |
| 02:29.53 | kergoth | knowing, as i do, that people are morons |
| 02:29.53 | Dess|Away | yeah, good diea |
| 02:29.54 | TheMasterMind1 | i think thats a good idea |
| 02:29.57 | Dess|Away | *idea |
| 02:29.58 | treke|home | yup |
| 02:29.59 | kergoth | I'm tempted to avoid ithe prompt |
| 02:30.05 | kergoth | cause it'll confuse people |
| 02:30.07 | kenb | prompts are evil. |
| 02:30.09 | kergoth | "Help! whats this!" |
| 02:30.11 | kenb | they make the user think. |
| 02:30.14 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:30.14 | kenb | exactly. |
| 02:30.16 | kergoth | i know what i'll do |
| 02:30.21 | TheMasterMind1 | you could make a default value |
| 02:30.22 | kergoth | add an option to /etc/default/rcS |
| 02:30.26 | kergoth | that lets you enable the prompt |
| 02:30.30 | kergoth | for powerusers |
| 02:30.40 | treke|home | kergoth: this would be something else that would be nice to have in a debconfish system |
| 02:30.44 | Dess|Away | well, you could get it print a massive block of text as well as the prompt, explaining what it does ;) |
| 02:30.54 | kenb | kergoth: just jam it in the debug kernels. |
| 02:31.04 | kergoth | note it'll only prompt on loss of /etc/.configured, if the mtdram size is known to have changed, it'll wipe it regardless |
| 02:31.38 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:32.10 | hobbs | kergoth: hey, I just ran into this with a friend, not sure if you want to take any effort: |
| 02:32.19 | kergoth | basically the only time it'll prompt, will be if you created a custom initrd.bin |
| 02:32.25 | kergoth | because it only prompts on reflash of rootfs |
| 02:32.38 | kergoth | oh fuck it |
| 02:32.38 | hobbs | kergoth: some people seem to think that you need CF to _run_ OZ, not just to install it. Minor, but makes a real difference for some people. |
| 02:33.00 | kenb | hoobs: really? amusing. |
| 02:33.04 | kergoth | i'm just going to wipe the ramdisk if either 1) mtdram size changes, 2) /etc/.configured doesnt exist |
| 02:33.11 | hobbs | admitted, it's incredibly useful. :) |
| 02:33.16 | kergoth | hobbs: er, i dont see how |
| 02:33.21 | kergoth | hobbs: the FAQ on the subject is quite clear |
| 02:33.39 | kenb | kergoth: I really love not seeing console messages. |
| 02:33.49 | kergoth | oh i see what you mean |
| 02:33.50 | kergoth | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=4 |
| 02:33.51 | kenb | It makes it look so much more polished. |
| 02:33.56 | kergoth | 'is a cf card required to _switch_' |
| 02:34.00 | kergoth | it _isnt_ clear after all |
| 02:34.04 | kergoth | okay, i'll fix |
| 02:34.06 | kergoth | kenb: yeah, i agree |
| 02:34.33 | kenb | caffeine^: hehe. |
| 02:34.44 | kenb | console-only install? |
| 02:34.48 | kergoth | caffeine^: yeah, non-opie initrds were always planned to be available, just never got around to it |
| 02:34.52 | caffeine^ | mhm...just load what i want |
| 02:34.52 | kenb | That's not alot of use for non-developers. |
| 02:35.00 | ljp | blasphemy! |
| 02:35.00 | kergoth | well, we should have |
| 02:35.05 | kergoth | 1) tinyx initrd |
| 02:35.07 | kergoth | 2) opie initrd |
| 02:35.08 | kergoth | etc |
| 02:35.11 | kenb | we should "build you own image" online! |
| 02:35.15 | kergoth | yeah |
| 02:35.28 | kergoth | could cache the image based on a md5sum of the .config used to build it |
| 02:35.38 | kenb | it just takes ipkg's from master dir.. |
| 02:35.39 | kergoth | so it doesnt need to build for every request, it may have that one handy |
| 02:35.42 | kenb | and does the make image |
| 02:35.44 | kenb | yea. |
| 02:35.46 | ljp | 3) Bricked Device |
| 02:35.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:36.04 | kergoth | we'd have to force them to be unable to disable certain packages |
| 02:36.09 | kergoth | or they'll produce useless initrd.bin's |
| 02:36.11 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:36.19 | kergoth | "hey, what happens if i disable sysvinit?" |
| 02:36.24 | kenb | yea. |
| 02:36.25 | SumomoWork | j |
| 02:36.29 | kenb | dependancy checking! ;) |
| 02:36.41 | kergoth | well, some required packages arent depended on by anything |
| 02:36.42 | ljp | and check the size. trying to flash a too large image might be bad |
| 02:36.45 | kergoth | guess we need to use the essential field eh |
| 02:36.52 | kenb | heh |
| 02:37.04 | kergoth | wonder if ipkg obeys it |
| 02:37.05 | kenb | ljp: yea, true. |
| 02:37.21 | kergoth | it should be checking size now.. |
| 02:37.32 | kergoth | if not, maybe i forgot to add it back in |
| 02:37.37 | kergoth | (when revamping image creation) |
| 02:37.56 | kergoth | hm, where to store the current mtdram size? |
| 02:38.03 | kenb | nvram! ;) |
| 02:38.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:38.17 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.32 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.43 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.01 | kenb | is it the only mtdram device? |
| 02:40.04 | kergoth | nvrd will need to store its previous known size somewhre too i'd think |
| 02:40.15 | kergoth | treke|home: eh? |
| 02:40.19 | kenb | just thinking.. ramdisk.conf implies you can add more of then . |
| 02:40.26 | kenb | hm |
| 02:40.28 | kenb | ramdisk.conf then. |
| 02:40.36 | chouimat | ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGg |
| 02:40.38 | kenb | just thinking it might not always be a mtd device. |
| 02:40.40 | Dess|Away | lol |
| 02:40.40 | kergoth | nvrd is the ipaq persistant ramdisk |
| 02:40.43 | kergoth | right |
| 02:40.47 | kergoth | nvrd isnt an mtd device |
| 02:40.49 | ljp | I think my cat thinks I need to always wash |
| 02:40.53 | kenb | so /etc/ramdisk.conf it is. |
| 02:41.01 | kergoth | k, updating /etc/init.d/ramdisk |
| 02:41.04 | kenb | ljp: you dirty bastard. |
| 02:41.05 | chouimat | kergoth: seen my ex-wife and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgg |
| 02:41.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:41.15 | kenb | chouimat: beer |
| 02:41.30 | chouimat | kenb: allready 8 of them |
| 02:41.36 | kenb | drink think in the next hour, and call me in the morning. |
| 02:41.39 | kenb | ah |
| 02:41.40 | Dess|Away | chouimat: what happened? ;) |
| 02:42.04 | Dess|Away | chouimat: what did she say to you? |
| 02:42.08 | Dess|Away | chouimat: lol |
| 02:42.23 | chouimat | she wanted me to sign a paper to tell an employer that she was a nice person and that he can trust her .... |
| 02:42.31 | Dess|Away | chouimat: lol! |
| 02:42.41 | ljp | hahaha |
| 02:42.42 | chouimat | Dess|Away: she ow me 1000$ :) |
| 02:42.42 | Dess|Away | chouimat: she only wanted something for nothing in return |
| 02:43.11 | *** join/#openembedded minipanda (~root@211.154.175.2) |
| 02:43.24 | Dess|Away | haha |
| 02:43.29 | chouimat | yup.... so I sign the fucking paper and drink 8 beers ... ned to pee ... didn't do that since 16h00 EST |
| 02:43.31 | Dess|Away | hax0rin' time! |
| 02:43.31 | kenb | I love that |
| 02:43.57 | _Psycho | finnaly got my xwindows in 1600x1200 :) |
| 02:44.00 | ljp | root catcher |
| 02:44.04 | Dess|Away | lol |
| 02:44.49 | kergoth | if (test ! -e /etc/.configured) || test "$OLD_MTD_SIZE" != "$RAM_MTD_SIZE"; then |
| 02:44.51 | chouimat | ok did I go buy some beers (only 4 60+ bottle of wine) or I get out in a club? |
| 02:45.10 | chouimat | kergoth: btw tI got the newest CRADLE OF filth |
| 02:45.13 | ljp | did you? |
| 02:45.13 | Dess|Away | chouimat: bring the club to your house with some pot |
| 02:45.15 | kergoth | chouimat: nice |
| 02:45.25 | chouimat | kergoth: very good |
| 02:46.35 | chouimat | kergoth: want a sample? |
| 02:47.14 | kergoth | no dcc as always :) |
| 02:47.53 | chouimat | kergoth: fix that :) |
| 02:48.07 | kergoth | stupid cheap linksys router |
| 02:48.13 | kergoth | I need that laptop ide adapter so i can bring up my magnia |
| 02:48.21 | chouimat | arrrg I will stay here tonight BOB feel lonely :( |
| 02:48.33 | kergoth | kenb: okay, ramdisk handler behavior changed. |
| 02:48.33 | treke|home | at least you've got a little pussy around |
| 02:48.42 | ljp | BOB? |
| 02:48.42 | kergoth | opie's still buliding |
| 02:48.59 | treke|home | ljp: his cat |
| 02:49.08 | ljp | Bob the Cat? |
| 02:49.15 | treke|home | no bob the builder |
| 02:49.18 | treke|home | of course the cat |
| 02:49.29 | chouimat | ljp: yup need a name so ... |
| 02:49.36 | ljp | cats should not have human names |
| 02:49.47 | ljp | call it Meow |
| 02:49.51 | kergoth | I still want to get a dog |
| 02:49.54 | chouimat | ljp: Bob is better than rackapus |
| 02:49.55 | kergoth | and name it 'dog' |
| 02:50.00 | kergoth | "here dog, come here dog" |
| 02:50.00 | hobbs | ljp: my cat is named Dave. |
| 02:50.10 | ljp | or Psspsspsspss |
| 02:50.11 | chouimat | hobbs: lol |
| 02:50.27 | treke|home | what about a cat named dog? |
| 02:50.34 | kergoth | hehe, there ya go |
| 02:50.49 | kergoth | man, thatd confuse ya |
| 02:50.56 | ljp | I know a dog named 'd' 'o' 'g' deogy |
| 02:51.04 | kergoth | like those illusion things, where you have to name the color of a word |
| 02:51.08 | kergoth | not the color that the word spells |
| 02:51.41 | ljp | or a dog named 'here kitty kitty kitty' |
| 02:51.57 | kergoth | here kitty kitty kitty, fetch! |
| 02:52.05 | treke|home | a dog named fucko |
| 02:52.21 | kergoth | hah, thatd be great when you're out walking the dog |
| 02:52.33 | kergoth | people lookin at you funny |
| 02:52.43 | kergoth | "fucko, get over here" |
| 02:52.47 | kergoth | "what the fuck did you say to me?" |
| 02:52.52 | kergoth | "nono not you, its the dog's name" |
| 02:53.20 | chouimat | ljp: http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/bob.jpg |
| 02:53.57 | kenb | name the dog "bitch" |
| 02:54.04 | kenb | "hey bitch, get over here..." |
| 02:54.07 | kenb | *slap* |
| 02:54.22 | ljp | I need to get a photo of Stripes |
| 02:55.10 | kergoth | kenb: oh, question |
| 02:55.13 | kergoth | kenb: do me a favor |
| 02:55.26 | kergoth | intentionally set your wireless settings in wireless.opts wrong. |
| 02:55.30 | kergoth | so that it fails to associate |
| 02:55.37 | *** join/#openembedded noda (~noda@modemcable063.97-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:55.38 | noda | Moo! |
| 02:55.39 | kergoth | then yank the card and reinsert |
| 02:55.47 | kergoth | so udhcpc will just hang in the background |
| 02:55.52 | noda | kergoth: Apparently the font used in the OE logo is non-free :( |
| 02:55.55 | kergoth | then run cardctl eject |
| 02:56.00 | kergoth | and tell me if it kills udhcpc |
| 02:56.31 | kenb | uh |
| 02:56.34 | kenb | give me a minute |
| 02:56.47 | kenb | thats a long test |
| 02:56.48 | noda | ...which seems sucky to me :( |
| 02:56.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:56.50 | kergoth | k |
| 02:56.59 | kergoth | it used to be a bug |
| 02:57.02 | kergoth | udhcpc wasnt being killed |
| 02:57.02 | kenb | ok |
| 02:57.04 | kergoth | need to confirm the fix |
| 02:57.13 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: wheres the logo |
| 02:57.14 | kenb | do i have to fsck wireless.opts? |
| 02:57.21 | noda | TheMasterMind1: http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/logo.svg |
| 02:57.34 | noda | TheMasterMind1: That's my hand-crafted version :) |
| 02:57.40 | chouimat | noda: http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/bob.jpg <--- my room mate |
| 02:57.41 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 02:57.44 | TheMasterMind1 | what do i need to view it? |
| 02:57.45 | kergoth | kenb: probably dont have to. just make sure udhcpc is in the background when you call cardctl eject |
| 02:57.59 | kenb | k |
| 02:58.00 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Mozilla? sodipodi? Konqueror? Nautilus? ... |
| 02:58.08 | TheMasterMind1 | didn't open in galeon |
| 02:58.09 | noda | chouimat: Awwww, how cute. Looks like a paperweight :) |
| 02:58.11 | kergoth | sodipodi rocks |
| 02:58.14 | kergoth | i'd never used it before today |
| 02:58.30 | kenb | kergoth: so... yank card, and reinsert, and then run eject ? |
| 02:58.45 | noda | kergoth: It doesn't handle stylesheets... for me at least. The newest version is black-and-white because I put the colours into a stylesheet :) |
| 02:58.50 | kergoth | kenb: 1) make sure udhcpc is in the background, 2) run cardctl eject |
| 02:58.59 | kenb | k |
| 02:58.59 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 02:59.01 | kergoth | kenb: if 1) isnt there, do what you need to do to make it happen |
| 02:59.07 | TheMasterMind1 | just run udhcpc yourself with the background flag |
| 02:59.12 | noda | kergoth: The fact that the font is non-free isn't a big deal, is it? |
| 02:59.22 | kenb | what's suppose to happen now? :) |
| 02:59.30 | noda | kergoth: I'd just like to make sure, since "OPENembedded" is kinda oxymoronic if even the logo is closed :) |
| 02:59.34 | kenb | udhcpc isn't running now. |
| 02:59.37 | kergoth | kenb: cardctl eject didnt hang, right? |
| 02:59.40 | kenb | nope |
| 02:59.49 | kenb | i removed card |
| 02:59.50 | kenb | inserted |
| 02:59.51 | kergoth | noda: seen hardwire's font in his logos? |
| 02:59.53 | kenb | it came back up. |
| 02:59.56 | kergoth | noda: maybe use that one |
| 02:59.58 | scanline | :) |
| 02:59.59 | kergoth | kenb: okay good. |
| 03:00.01 | kenb | udhcpc started again too. |
| 03:00.01 | noda | kergoth: Where is it? |
| 03:00.01 | scanline | good night |
| 03:00.05 | chouimat | arrrrgggggg my brother just bought a MAC |
| 03:00.09 | kenb | so I pronounce that bug fixed |
| 03:00.39 | TheMasterMind1 | well |
| 03:00.42 | TheMasterMind1 | night everyone |
| 03:00.52 | noda | kenb: Which bug is this? cardctl eject with a wireless card? |
| 03:00.54 | noda | TheMasterMind1: 'night |
| 03:00.58 | chouimat | TheMasterMind1: night |
| 03:01.00 | kergoth | noda: http://bastard.bogomip.com/boottest.png |
| 03:01.06 | chouimat | hmmmm nice german chick on tv |
| 03:01.07 | kergoth | noda: http://bastard.bogomip.com/oe-test-1.png |
| 03:01.17 | ljp | a mac? |
| 03:01.24 | kergoth | noda: we determined his design wasnt really professional, feels too much like quake and shit, but the font maybe.. |
| 03:01.36 | chouimat | ljp: yup appple computer |
| 03:01.36 | noda | I like the font. And the | isn't that bad either |
| 03:01.58 | kergoth | noda: yeah, the | is kinda cool |
| 03:02.08 | chouimat | kergoth: I realy love bootest |
| 03:02.15 | ljp | why an apple? they are too expensive |
| 03:02.19 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah me too, but it doesnt fit what we're trying to do |
| 03:02.22 | noda | Okay, I've sent hardwire a botmail :) |
| 03:02.23 | kergoth | chouimat: its well done, but not appropriate |
| 03:02.28 | noda | I'm off... later all :) |
| 03:02.31 | kergoth | later noda |
| 03:02.39 | kenb | the boottest is cool, but needs to be rotated 90% |
| 03:02.43 | kenb | 90degrees. |
| 03:02.50 | kergoth | cmon baby! |
| 03:03.00 | kenb | heh |
| 03:03.11 | chouimat | kergoth: I really like that |
| 03:03.41 | kergoth | hardwire said he had some other logo ideas |
| 03:03.43 | kergoth | so lets see if he comes up with anything |
| 03:03.54 | kergoth | he's a very talented artist/designer |
| 03:04.35 | kergoth | otherwise |
| 03:04.40 | chouimat | kergoth: yup better than me ... I will stay on the drums and sound console :) |
| 03:04.42 | kenb | man. |
| 03:04.43 | ljp | except he walks around naked |
| 03:04.44 | kergoth | i want to consider some various color schemes for the existing logo |
| 03:04.48 | kenb | someone add me to openzaurus SF project. |
| 03:04.53 | kergoth | kenb: hah, k |
| 03:04.54 | TheMasterMind1 | ya, hardwire is really good with graphics |
| 03:04.55 | kergoth | kenb: username? kenb? |
| 03:04.58 | kenb | velkro |
| 03:05.01 | kergoth | k |
| 03:05.02 | kergoth | oh yeah |
| 03:05.04 | kergoth | i was gonna do that |
| 03:05.06 | kenb | I wanna go close some freaking bugs. |
| 03:05.06 | kergoth | must've forgotten |
| 03:05.14 | kenb | i'm on openembedded already |
| 03:05.17 | kenb | but not openzaurus |
| 03:05.29 | kergoth | please do, that damn bug tracker needs a run thruogh again |
| 03:05.31 | ljp | do you guys get opie bugs on your buglist? |
| 03:05.36 | kergoth | theres probably a ton of bugs that should be in mantis |
| 03:05.39 | kergoth | yes, all the time |
| 03:05.47 | kergoth | i need to go through mantis and close some OZ specific bugs there |
| 03:05.54 | kergoth | users cant seem to keep them straight |
| 03:06.28 | DiamondAL | kenb: udhcp bug is fixed |
| 03:06.38 | DiamondAL | so is suspend bug |
| 03:06.47 | kenb | DiamondAL: yup. and alot of the wireless bugs are fixed too |
| 03:07.06 | kergoth | in fact, I think we've fixed all the base system bugs that we've found so far |
| 03:07.13 | kenb | yup |
| 03:07.17 | DiamondAL | this debug the thing as we fuck with it is cool |
| 03:07.18 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmm |
| 03:07.19 | TheMasterMind1 | very nice |
| 03:07.32 | chouimat | kergoth: did you fix the DCC thing :) |
| 03:07.32 | DiamondAL | hehehe, prolly |
| 03:07.48 | TheMasterMind1 | what was the issue with suspend |
| 03:08.00 | JasonNJ | yo. |
| 03:08.04 | DiamondAL | the initrd.minimal is not too bad |
| 03:08.05 | kenb | jason. |
| 03:08.11 | kergoth | kenb: okay, you should have access |
| 03:08.16 | JasonNJ | my friggin 5500 is going on the blink |
| 03:08.33 | DiamondAL | ssh works, dhcp works, usbd works, what more could you want |
| 03:08.47 | kenb | kergoth: k |
| 03:08.55 | ljp | send it to Sharp, they have great customer service |
| 03:09.09 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 03:09.21 | kergoth | oh, i should add the fsck -y to the ramdisk handler before i release |
| 03:09.28 | chouimat | if anyone plan to visit wonderfull Quebec City this summer I know some place with alot of easy chicks |
| 03:09.30 | kergoth | to deal with corruption on the ext2 ramdisk |
| 03:09.33 | JasonNJ | I guess I'll have to ask danika to swap mine |
| 03:09.42 | kergoth | and the fsck of the CF card doesnt appear to work |
| 03:09.47 | chouimat | hi JasonNJ |
| 03:09.48 | JasonNJ | kergoth: get me a OZ 5600 image |
| 03:09.51 | kergoth | kenb: try this. umount /mnt/cf; fsck /dev/hda1 |
| 03:09.57 | chouimat | ljp: np :) |
| 03:09.58 | kergoth | kenb: errors, says it cant figure out what filesystem |
| 03:10.15 | kergoth | kenb: as a result, people using ext2 cf cards arent getting fsck'd as often as they should |
| 03:10.20 | kenb | I have wireless card in it right now. |
| 03:10.39 | kenb | is this ext2 CF cards? |
| 03:10.44 | kenb | or FAT? |
| 03:10.48 | kergoth | mine is fat atm |
| 03:10.52 | kenb | same here. |
| 03:11.04 | DiamondAL | FAT don't need fsck, right? |
| 03:11.10 | kergoth | but fsck should be able to pick it up, and run fsck.vfat on it |
| 03:11.13 | kenb | that's why I'm a bit confused :) |
| 03:11.14 | kergoth | its failing |
| 03:11.15 | kenb | yea. |
| 03:11.42 | kergoth | actually, we need a /etc/filesystems.. its noncritical for 2.4.6, but anyone building filesystems as modules will see a problem with autoload without it |
| 03:12.12 | kenb | hm. |
| 03:12.18 | kenb | is the suspend on cradel fixed? |
| 03:12.24 | kergoth | not certain |
| 03:12.28 | kergoth | I've never been able to reproduce that |
| 03:12.28 | kenb | I don't have a cradle. |
| 03:12.30 | kenb | k |
| 03:12.32 | kergoth | so could never fix |
| 03:12.44 | kergoth | mark it as pending verification |
| 03:12.52 | kergoth | with a note that they should test rc3 when it releases shortly |
| 03:12.56 | kergoth | to confirm it still occurs |
| 03:12.59 | treke|home | oz needs a bug tracker |
| 03:13.09 | Dess|Away | I can confirm if it is fixed or not |
| 03:13.09 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:13.12 | kergoth | oz has a bug tracker. |
| 03:13.12 | kenb | it has a bug tracker! |
| 03:13.16 | kenb | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=43045&atid=434956 |
| 03:13.19 | kergoth | on the SF project |
| 03:13.20 | Dess|Away | I still experience the bug |
| 03:13.25 | DiamondAL | i have a cradle, what is the bug? |
| 03:13.25 | treke|home | oz needs a non sourceforge based bug tracker :) |
| 03:13.29 | Dess|Away | on RC2, of course |
| 03:13.32 | kergoth | Dess|Away: exactly what do you do to make it happen? |
| 03:13.34 | kergoth | treke|home: yes, i agree there |
| 03:13.39 | kergoth | but every bug tracking system sucks |
| 03:13.44 | Dess|Away | just turn it on in the cradle |
| 03:13.46 | Dess|Away | *bang* |
| 03:13.48 | Dess|Away | it freezes |
| 03:13.50 | kenb | DiamondAL: |
| 03:13.52 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:13.53 | DiamondAL | kenb: describe suspend on cradle bug, please? |
| 03:13.55 | kenb | DiamondAL: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=631109&group_id=43045&atid=434956 |
| 03:14.01 | DiamondAL | oh, ok |
| 03:14.01 | kenb | simpler for you to read it yerself. |
| 03:14.16 | Dess|Away | freezes after abotu 5 seconds or so, then the connection is reinitialised |
| 03:14.23 | Dess|Away | *then = when |
| 03:14.26 | ljp | whomever thought having a processor without floats is a good idea should be shot |
| 03:14.26 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:14.30 | kergoth | 'reinitialised'? |
| 03:14.47 | kergoth | cmon opie, finish compiling |
| 03:14.49 | kergoth | grr |
| 03:14.52 | Dess|Away | dunno, when windows xp does 'bid-dum' |
| 03:14.53 | Dess|Away | rofl |
| 03:15.07 | Dess|Away | to say that a new usb device was connected |
| 03:15.50 | ljp | 'bid-dum' is that a technical term? ;) |
| 03:15.53 | Dess|Away | ;) |
| 03:15.58 | gaurdian | kergoth , so is rc3 going to have the samba and be running as non-root ? |
| 03:16.01 | Dess|Away | does = goes |
| 03:16.03 | Dess|Away | tired, lol |
| 03:16.04 | Dess|Away | i need sleep! |
| 03:16.07 | kergoth | gaurdian: read the . |
| 03:16.09 | kergoth | gaurdian: TODO |
| 03:16.20 | kergoth | http://openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/TODO |
| 03:18.18 | Dess|Away | how much money is saved when making a processor with an fpu? ;) |
| 03:18.21 | Dess|Away | *without |
| 03:19.39 | Dess|Away | gn |
| 03:19.41 | Dess|Away | gets late |
| 03:19.44 | kergoth | night dess |
| 03:20.32 | chouimat | ljp: Bob spend his time looking a pussies on the net |
| 03:21.04 | kergoth | chouimat: so he takes after you then! |
| 03:21.12 | *** join/#openembedded caffeinee (~caffeinee@clt74-76-015.carolina.rr.com) |
| 03:21.14 | ljp | :) |
| 03:22.05 | chouimat | kergoth: spend 3 years alone (officially) and maybe you will understand :) |
| 03:22.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:22.45 | kergoth | 'officially' |
| 03:22.49 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:22.59 | kergoth | woo, opie compile finished |
| 03:23.00 | kergoth | :D |
| 03:23.07 | _Psycho | ! |
| 03:23.14 | treke|home | kergoth: compiling a more recent opie? |
| 03:23.18 | chouimat | kergoth: I don't count one nigth stand :) |
| 03:23.21 | kergoth | treke|home: building the rc3 images. |
| 03:23.26 | treke|home | ah |
| 03:23.39 | kergoth | well, a prerelease image to confirm everything is happy, then releasing |
| 03:23.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:23.52 | kergoth | I really need to document a test plan for OZ releases |
| 03:24.04 | treke|home | would be good |
| 03:24.23 | kenb | yes. |
| 03:24.57 | treke|home | "it compiles and boots" method |
| 03:25.45 | treke|home | holy rat testicles |
| 03:25.56 | treke|home | kergoth has made some changes |
| 03:26.16 | kenb | kergoth: is CF ejects & remounts after suspend fixed? |
| 03:26.44 | treke|home | cd .. |
| 03:26.51 | treke|home | mv buildroot buildroot-old |
| 03:27.10 | kergoth | kenb: highly doubt it. I saw a report of that behavior in the BTS on www.arm.linux.org.uk upstream.. leave it open for now |
| 03:27.22 | kenb | k |
| 03:27.36 | DiamondAL | kergoth: is it normal to loose the first character typed upon resume in console? |
| 03:27.52 | kergoth | DiamondAL: not surprising |
| 03:27.57 | DiamondAL | seems like an escape or something |
| 03:28.10 | kergoth | takes a bit while its zipping through its resume path |
| 03:28.22 | DiamondAL | ahhh |
| 03:28.35 | DiamondAL | ok will try that next time, waiting before typing |
| 03:28.38 | kergoth | k |
| 03:28.46 | DiamondAL | wnen screen blanks again |
| 03:29.11 | kergoth | flashing |
| 03:32.06 | gaurdian | well, when RC3 ready I will put it through its paces at work...see what breaks :) |
| 03:32.16 | kenb | do that before rc3 is out. |
| 03:32.34 | kergoth | yeah, i'll put this image up for prerelease testing in a second here |
| 03:32.42 | kergoth | just confirming opie comes up and stuff :) |
| 03:32.50 | gaurdian | well, I wont be at work till tommarrow so... |
| 03:32.56 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:33.10 | kergoth | we need a test plan |
| 03:33.21 | kergoth | and like, beta testers |
| 03:33.25 | kergoth | and stuff :) |
| 03:33.32 | ljp | 1) post 2) test 3) debug 4) fix |
| 03:33.37 | gaurdian | but if its still a pre-rec3 tommarrow, I will load my sniffer and sheit on it and give it a go |
| 03:34.03 | DiamondAL | i volunteer for beta-test program |
| 03:34.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.20 | DiamondAL | put signup form on openembedded wiki |
| 03:34.30 | kergoth | "just when you thought OZ was beta enough... here comes, the beta test program!" |
| 03:34.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:34.38 | kenb | yea |
| 03:34.40 | DiamondAL | hehehe |
| 03:34.55 | _Psycho | ooooh |
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| 03:35.10 | kenb | I'm on a spree! |
| 03:35.13 | _Psycho | let me crash it please ! |
| 03:35.13 | _Psycho | ;) |
| 03:35.26 | kergoth | err |
| 03:35.27 | DiamondAL | I think that OZ is more like charlie or delta code now tho |
| 03:35.28 | kergoth | am i missing something? |
| 03:35.34 | kergoth | i dont see any new icons |
| 03:35.40 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:35.47 | treke|home | kergoth: did you compile from head? |
| 03:35.51 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:35.56 | treke|home | they are there |
| 03:35.57 | treke|home | :) |
| 03:36.01 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:36.59 | kergoth | i couldve told you that |
| 03:37.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:37.08 | kenb | sheesh |
| 03:37.13 | kenb | so many freaking wireless bugs. |
| 03:37.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:37.31 | kergoth | how many are user error? |
| 03:37.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:37.41 | treke|home | all of them |
| 03:37.51 | kenb | most are busted prism in 3.1rc2 |
| 03:37.54 | kenb | which is well known. |
| 03:37.58 | treke|home | if the user hadnt tried doing something they arent meant to, those errors wouldnt have occured |
| 03:39.38 | DiamondAL | is there a way to turn the light off in console mode without sending unit into suspend? |
| 03:39.53 | kergoth | DiamondAL: write a backlight cmdline tool |
| 03:39.53 | kenb | the backlight? |
| 03:40.05 | kergoth | we have one, just not for the stupid lineo interface in 2.4.6 |
| 03:40.05 | DiamondAL | yes |
| 03:40.07 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:40.23 | kergoth | man, handhelds.org is quick tonight |
| 03:40.26 | chouimat | kergoth: did you fix the dcc problem ? |
| 03:40.27 | kergoth | cvs up is flyin |
| 03:41.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:41.11 | chouimat | ljp: one word DUMBASS |
| 03:42.34 | ljp | god you should see some of them in this town.. huge fin on the back |
| 03:42.36 | gaurdian | whats the status of useing opera on rc3 ? konq just seems so flakey from what I read in the mail list |
| 03:43.44 | kenb | kergoth: is the opie segfault stuff fixed? |
| 03:43.44 | DiamondAL | kergoth: I think that if it could be done, you would have done it already, so I will investigate other alternatives |
| 03:44.06 | kenb | ie: when aqpkg is working, and you say Yes, Kill it. |
| 03:44.15 | DiamondAL | just a waste of the light while i am using ssh to get to console |
| 03:44.40 | chouimat | ljp: can show you worst ... a old renault 5 with the back jacked |
| 03:44.41 | DiamondAL | and the z is plugged in charging |
| 03:44.42 | kergoth | kenb: not sure |
| 03:45.26 | chouimat | ljp: the guy put 20" wheels at the rear ... but the renault is a front traction car ... |
| 03:45.34 | DiamondAL | when not plugged in it blanks the screen and blinks the envelope light but ssh is still logged in |
| 03:45.52 | DiamondAL | and wifi is still active |
| 03:45.58 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.59 | kenb | libopie11, however there doesn't seem to be a package |
| 03:45.59 | kenb | in the testing/3.1rc2 feed that provides it. |
| 03:45.59 | kenb | Packages involved: |
| 03:45.59 | kenb | opie-base 0.9.1-20030123.3 |
| 03:45.59 | kenb | opie-taskbar 0.9.1-20030123.2 |
| 03:46.06 | kenb | that's fixed in 3.1rc3 right? |
| 03:46.16 | kenb | silly typo in the depends. |
| 03:46.48 | kergoth | hehe. yeah |
| 03:47.33 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.33 | kenb | is not in the conffiles. Therefore, upgrades nuke it. |
| 03:47.41 | kergoth | thats fixed |
| 03:47.41 | kenb | is that fixed? |
| 03:47.43 | kenb | k |
| 03:47.45 | kergoth | we dont include it anymore |
| 03:48.21 | kergoth | we include /etc/skel/*, and copy them into place only if they dont already exist |
| 03:48.26 | kenb | What is TinyKate? |
| 03:48.53 | kergoth | kenb: kde's kate editor, small |
| 03:48.57 | kergoth | kenb: syntax highlighting and shit |
| 03:49.00 | kergoth | very very cool |
| 03:49.17 | kenb | k |
| 03:49.26 | kenb | TinyKATE: Opening files from /mnt/cf not possible |
| 03:49.38 | kergoth | that belongs in mantis |
| 03:49.48 | kergoth | use the preset 'opie bug' response |
| 03:49.54 | kergoth | and close it |
| 03:49.55 | kenb | kergoth: URL for mantis? |
| 03:49.59 | kenb | k |
| 03:49.59 | kergoth | ibot: opie bugs |
| 03:50.00 | | i heard opie bugs is http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 03:52.25 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.26 | kenb | Symptom: "Could not start the application qpe.", and a question mark icon on desktop for the programs residing on the MMC card. |
| 03:52.28 | kenb | is that fixed? |
| 03:52.34 | kenb | I never ran into it myself on rc2. |
| 03:52.51 | kergoth | never seen it |
| 03:52.55 | kenb | me either. |
| 03:53.00 | kergoth | mark it works for me and close |
| 03:53.26 | kenb | k |
| 03:53.33 | chouimat | kergoth: DCC fixed ? |
| 03:53.48 | kergoth | chouimat: no, working on OZ |
| 03:54.20 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.20 | kenb | Presenter won't launch. The busy icon appears in the |
| 03:54.20 | kenb | status bar, but when it disappears, nothing is |
| 03:54.21 | kenb | launched. HancomSheet and Opera both do work. |
| 03:54.23 | chouimat | kergoth: :( ok |
| 03:54.25 | kenb | is that even valid? |
| 03:54.34 | kenb | I thought the FAQ said they were all busted? |
| 03:54.36 | chouimat | kenb: on what? the webpal? |
| 03:54.47 | kenb | chouimat: OZ |
| 03:54.47 | kergoth | kenb: not afaik. all reports i've heard was that hancom apps are currently working in -rc* |
| 03:54.52 | kenb | h |
| 03:54.56 | kergoth | they should work |
| 03:55.01 | kergoth | sandman fixed the major BC issues |
| 03:55.06 | kenb | k |
| 03:55.15 | kenb | I can't test, so I'll leave it alone. |
| 03:55.17 | kergoth | k |
| 03:55.23 | chouimat | kergoth: a wordprocessor on a pda which motherf****** need that? |
| 03:55.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:55.36 | kergoth | certainly not I |
| 03:55.45 | gaurdian | chouimat , for 1, I use it :) |
| 03:55.53 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.53 | kenb | generated by the hardware buttons. |
| 03:55.53 | kenb | Pressing of any button results in control chars shown |
| 03:55.53 | kenb | near the lower edge of the screen, as if it were at the |
| 03:55.54 | kenb | console, outside opie ... |
| 03:56.02 | kenb | kergoth: works for me.. does that work for you? |
| 03:56.12 | chouimat | gaurdian: ok and you're the one who buy a cell phone with a mp3 player and a webcam? |
| 03:56.22 | gaurdian | uh..no |
| 03:56.22 | kergoth | kenb: works for me. i think it has to do with exiting opie, then starting it again from console via the startup script |
| 03:56.29 | kergoth | kenb: close it with a note to test against rc3 |
| 03:56.29 | gaurdian | I have a plain old cell phone |
| 03:56.58 | chouimat | gaurdian: I know some who just bought that ... to replace their 6 mont old cell phone |
| 03:57.16 | gaurdian | with a plain old serial cable for it to act as a fax/modem for my laptop |
| 03:57.19 | ljp | cell phones heat up your brain |
| 03:57.33 | kergoth | yeah, then your brain is comfy warm |
| 03:57.38 | kergoth | :D |
| 03:57.44 | kenb | Opie Rotation tool bugs. |
| 03:57.49 | ljp | its like putting your head in a microwave oven |
| 03:57.49 | kenb | file against mantis/ |
| 03:57.51 | kenb | ? |
| 03:57.52 | kergoth | yep |
| 03:57.56 | kergoth | any bug against an opie app goes in mantis |
| 03:58.00 | gaurdian | and considering I dont have a land line phone at home, it acts as my fax modem at home also |
| 03:58.05 | kenb | kergoth: k, sweet. |
| 03:58.06 | chouimat | ljp: not my problem when they play with to nice toy and did 90 hours/week I screw their girlfriends :) |
| 03:58.15 | gaurdian | but no mp3 or web cam on it |
| 03:58.24 | kenb | Mysql install fails? |
| 03:58.25 | ljp | chouimat: meanie |
| 03:58.29 | kenb | WTF are these people doing!?!?! |
| 03:58.35 | kergoth | lol |
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| 03:58.49 | chouimat | ljp: did I said something ? |
| 03:58.53 | kenb | '"INIT: version 2.84 booting |
| 03:58.53 | kenb | fsck: error while loading shared libraried: |
| 03:58.59 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.02 | kenb | record |
| 03:59.11 | kenb | I'm guessing thats fixed? |
| 03:59.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:59.18 | kergoth | fsck works fine in rc3 |
| 03:59.20 | kenb | k |
| 03:59.22 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:59.31 | ljp | I hate floats |
| 03:59.57 | gaurdian | actually, if we had GSM here, I would have a nokia communicator though |
| 04:00.36 | kenb | kergoth: who doesn't show local logins.. |
| 04:00.39 | kenb | is that a busybox bug? |
| 04:00.58 | kergoth | dunno.. put a note to test against rc3 and close it |
| 04:00.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:01.02 | kenb | actually |
| 04:01.05 | kenb | rc3 is works |
| 04:01.07 | kenb | I just tested. |
| 04:01.18 | kergoth | so much shit changes, you never know whats already been fixed |
| 04:01.18 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:01.31 | kergoth | btw, opie works great in rc3 |
| 04:01.37 | kergoth | no probs |
| 04:01.39 | kenb | oh? nice. |
| 04:01.44 | kergoth | i'll upload the images for testing in a sec here |
| 04:01.50 | kenb | I've closed about 20 bugs so far. |
| 04:02.07 | kergoth | hah, ken's on fire |
| 04:02.14 | kergoth | bug closin madman |
| 04:02.15 | kenb | jea. |
| 04:02.22 | kenb | my inbox is fulla sourceforge emails. |
| 04:03.01 | chouimat | gaurdian: and I forgot the gps and the pager on the cellphone ... my brother just asked what happen what that thing broke? |
| 04:03.18 | gaurdian | heh |
| 04:03.38 | ljp | who ports kde to cell phone? |
| 04:03.40 | gaurdian | I have the Kyocera 6500, which is all I really want |
| 04:03.55 | gaurdian | it does what I need. |
| 04:04.16 | gaurdian | I actually found a company that sells a serial cable from Z to my pone... |
| 04:04.26 | gaurdian | phone |
| 04:05.02 | ljp | then you can watch debug info on your cell phone! |
| 04:05.12 | kenb | 29 bugs left open right now. |
| 04:05.18 | kenb | down from 54 |
| 04:05.24 | gaurdian | hahah..uh no. I can then do email and such from anywhere though |
| 04:06.23 | DiamondAL | how do you type "[" and "]" on the console keyboard? |
| 04:06.23 | kenb | In short, the solution is to change the lirc device |
| 04:06.23 | kenb | number to 62 to avoid conflict with vnc. (Also, his |
| 04:06.23 | kenb | updated packages have some nice scripts for |
| 04:06.23 | kenb | loading the lirc module and lircd and it would be |
| 04:06.24 | kenb | nice to have them on OZ3.1). |
| 04:06.29 | ljp | then you can call kergoth with debug info! |
| 04:06.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:06.41 | kenb | kergoth: did we update this for 3.1 ? |
| 04:06.44 | _Psycho | kenb the bug list is the one of source forge ? |
| 04:06.48 | gaurdian | uh..no |
| 04:06.48 | kergoth | kenb: I dont think we have |
| 04:06.50 | kenb | _Psycho: yes. |
| 04:06.51 | kenb | k |
| 04:06.59 | _Psycho | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.04 | kenb | hm. |
| 04:07.12 | kenb | open or w/pending? |
| 04:07.16 | kergoth | kenb: guess we need to look at the Z lirc packager's ipks, and swipe some things |
| 04:07.19 | kergoth | yeah dont count pending |
| 04:07.19 | chouimat | kergoth: tell me when you finish downloading the song |
| 04:07.25 | kergoth | those are waiting for verifications and shit from users |
| 04:07.29 | kergoth | chouimat: k |
| 04:07.45 | kergoth | moc_mainwin.o(.rodata+0x1c): undefined reference to `MainWindow::displayHelp(void)' |
| 04:07.53 | kergoth | ljp: you knwo what that error is offhand? |
| 04:07.57 | _Psycho | OZ sourceforge bug list right ? hehe or there is a OE one |
| 04:08.07 | kenb | kergoth: |
| 04:08.07 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.08 | kenb | specified with (for xmms-e): Package xmms-e (0.00005-1) installed in sd |
| 04:08.08 | kenb | is up to date. |
| 04:08.08 | kenb | SL-5500 |
| 04:08.08 | kenb | OZ 3.1rc1 |
| 04:08.15 | kenb | that was fixed in rc2, right? |
| 04:08.18 | ljp | hmm, not offhand |
| 04:08.27 | kergoth | kenb: ipkg bug, belongs in handhelds.org cvs, dont know if its fixed or not |
| 04:08.33 | kergoth | kenb: er handhelds.org BTS |
| 04:08.34 | kenb | k |
| 04:08.40 | kergoth | either open it over there yourself, or have them do it |
| 04:08.45 | ljp | perhaps it has to do with the tooltip help? maybe? |
| 04:08.51 | kergoth | ipkg has so many bugs i'd have no idea where to start |
| 04:08.58 | kenb | jea. |
| 04:09.00 | kenb | I'm lazy |
| 04:09.02 | kenb | they can open it |
| 04:09.05 | _Psycho | you can tell me the link kenb i dont think im at the good place :) |
| 04:09.07 | kergoth | ljp: i cleaned the aqpkg tree, its building now |
| 04:09.17 | JasonNJ | kergoth: I want my B500 OZ! |
| 04:09.20 | kergoth | ljp: guess cvs up didnt result in everything being rebuilt that needed to be |
| 04:09.30 | kergoth | JasonNJ: You'll have to wait until I get rc3 here out the door |
| 04:09.36 | JasonNJ | dammit |
| 04:09.46 | JasonNJ | my friggin 5500 is about to shuffle off |
| 04:09.50 | ljp | I want my vercel OZ! |
| 04:09.57 | chouimat | JasonNJ: did you finish the 10th dune? |
| 04:10.03 | JasonNJ | ljp: when the hell are they gonna ship that thing? |
| 04:10.11 | JasonNJ | chou: no not yet |
| 04:10.13 | kenb | umount /dev/hda1 |
| 04:10.13 | kenb | # fsck.vfat /dev/hda1 |
| 04:10.13 | kenb | --> Bus error |
| 04:10.20 | kenb | that's the issue you have kergoth? |
| 04:10.31 | kergoth | nah, my prob is with the core 'fsck' binary |
| 04:10.35 | kergoth | it never calls fsck.vfat itself |
| 04:10.38 | kergoth | you'd have ot run it manually |
| 04:10.41 | kergoth | let me try it manually |
| 04:10.41 | kenb | ah |
| 04:10.46 | chouimat | JasonNJ: ok ... which page? |
| 04:11.01 | ljp | JasonNJ: dont knoe, just emailedf Brett @ lineo about that all. I read somewhere _maybe_ in August |
| 04:11.11 | kergoth | ok |
| 04:11.14 | kergoth | fsck.vfat still bus errors |
| 04:11.19 | kenb | k |
| 04:11.19 | chouimat|shower | brb |
| 04:11.19 | kergoth | so keep that one open |
| 04:11.24 | kergoth | stupid alignment bugs |
| 04:11.30 | kergoth | we have one in util-linux fdisk as well |
| 04:11.36 | _Psycho | kenb you can give me the url ? |
| 04:11.44 | kergoth | url to what? |
| 04:11.49 | kenb | _Psycho: for? |
| 04:11.56 | _Psycho | the bug list |
| 04:12.00 | JasonNJ | chou: I am on the chapter after the short chick meets up with holtzman |
| 04:12.00 | kenb | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=43045&atid=434956 |
| 04:12.05 | JasonNJ | I didnt get very far since last time |
| 04:12.09 | JasonNJ | major distractions |
| 04:12.10 | kergoth | opie BT stuff just failed to compile |
| 04:12.12 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:12.21 | kenb | man, someone needs to put an RPG on the Z. |
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| 04:12.24 | *** mode/#openembedded [+o Onyx4] by ChanServ |
| 04:12.26 | _Psycho | oh ok i had the good one my bad |
| 04:12.27 | kenb | Then my life would be over. |
| 04:12.45 | ljp | JasonNJ: last vercel bsp update was in Dec, unless there's some elsewhere other than what I know of |
| 04:12.47 | _Psycho | snes emu and like chrono trigger ^ |
| 04:12.47 | _Psycho | ? |
| 04:13.42 | kenb | kergoth: I'm gonna assign a buncha stuff to you from the bug tracker |
| 04:13.49 | kenb | omg! onyx4! |
| 04:13.57 | kergoth | woah |
| 04:13.59 | JasonNJ | ljp: but the company still exists, right |
| 04:14.04 | kergoth | he bolted |
| 04:14.08 | JasonNJ | they still havent gone into production |
| 04:14.12 | ljp | verceL? as far as I know, yes |
| 04:14.17 | JasonNJ | and its also a SA based device |
| 04:14.19 | kenb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.19 | kenb | video actualy is. This does not happen when playing the |
| 04:14.19 | kenb | same clip using mplayer alone. |
| 04:14.19 | kenb | This does not happen on Sharp ROM using xmms-mplayer. |
| 04:14.19 | kenb | Steps to reproduce; |
| 04:14.20 | kenb | install xmms/e |
| 04:14.20 | JasonNJ | its way outdated |
| 04:14.22 | kenb | install xmms-mplayer plugin (this also installs mplayer |
| 04:14.24 | kenb | if not already installed) |
| 04:14.28 | kenb | kergoth: that fixed? or opie bug? |
| 04:14.32 | kergoth | kenb: hm, hard to say |
| 04:14.35 | kenb | k |
| 04:14.45 | _Psycho | reading on bitkeeper doesnt look bad to use |
| 04:14.51 | kergoth | kenb: they're usign our mplayer packages, could be a bug in them compared to the ones they're getting for use on sharp |
| 04:15.01 | kergoth | kenb: is pnis/denes in the sf project yet? |
| 04:15.04 | ljp | well, since there's only prototypes around, it wouldnt be all that hard to change |
| 04:15.17 | kenb | kergoth: k. pnis? wassat? |
| 04:15.17 | kergoth | he's the guy who did our newfangled sound drivers, and maintains our mplayer and xmms-e |
| 04:15.19 | ljp | just expensive |
| 04:15.23 | kenb | oh |
| 04:15.26 | kergoth | kenb: balitoni denes |
| 04:15.28 | kergoth | pnis is his nnick on irc |
| 04:15.30 | kenb | nope |
| 04:15.30 | kergoth | ibot: seen pnis |
| 04:15.31 | | pnis <~pnis@caracas-1021.adsl.interware.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 43d 4h 39m 26s ago, saying: 'bye kergoth'. |
| 04:15.41 | kergoth | 43 days.. |
| 04:15.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:15.42 | kenb | he's not in SF list of developers. |
| 04:15.43 | ljp | ooouch |
| 04:15.51 | kenb | kergoth: who maintains Konq ? |
| 04:15.59 | JasonNJ | youre still talking a complete mainboard redesign |
| 04:16.20 | ljp | true |
| 04:16.26 | kergoth | kenb: tronical, aka simon hausmann |
| 04:17.07 | kenb | he's not on SF project either |
| 04:17.14 | ljp | last I really heard from Lineo they were doing the metrowerks thing |
| 04:17.17 | kenb | do they tracks bugs elsewhere? |
| 04:17.37 | kergoth | konq? probably |
| 04:17.41 | ljp | tronical is on opie bugs |
| 04:17.56 | ljp | I think |
| 04:18.09 | kergoth | for konq/e? |
| 04:18.21 | ljp | no, thats at kde |
| 04:18.29 | kergoth | k |
| 04:18.48 | ljp | as far as I know |
| 04:19.13 | kenb | I'll leave it then |
| 04:19.13 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:19.18 | kergoth | whats the new opie obex lib called? |
| 04:19.25 | kergoth | i'm not getting a package built for it |
| 04:20.09 | ljp | obex2 and it has no control file |
| 04:20.33 | ljp | same lib name though |
| 04:21.08 | kergoth | k |
| 04:21.11 | kergoth | guess we need one |
| 04:21.17 | kenb | kergoth: is handwriting stuff opie or OZ? |
| 04:21.30 | kergoth | kenb: opie |
| 04:21.32 | ljp | is it even working yet? |
| 04:21.41 | kenb | kergoth:k, closing another one. |
| 04:22.28 | _Psycho | out of topci question, how do i mount a usb sandisk reader in linux ? |
| 04:22.42 | ljp | hmm there's no source in obex/ anymore |
| 04:22.53 | _Psycho | shit i broke my c700 stylus |
| 04:23.01 | kergoth | ljp: i noticed. guess it was cvs rm'd |
| 04:23.12 | _Psycho | just dropped on the floor then no more top :/ |
| 04:23.14 | kergoth | ljp: mind recovering the control file from the attic and copying it for obex2 for me/ |
| 04:23.36 | kenb | kergoth: ipkg not making symlinks on vfat drives (expected) - should they file bug with handhelds.org ? |
| 04:23.53 | kergoth | its not a bug |
| 04:23.56 | kenb | k |
| 04:23.57 | kergoth | close it invalid. |
| 04:24.05 | kenb | k |
| 04:24.09 | ljp | sure |
| 04:24.29 | kergoth | ljp: thanks, i'd like the obex stuff to be in the image and feeds. |
| 04:24.38 | chouimat | JasonNJ: page 140-150? |
| 04:24.40 | kergoth | shit, forgot to install qt3-dev-tools |
| 04:24.43 | kergoth | need lupdate/lrelease |
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| 04:26.33 | kenb | kergoth: ifconfig incorrectly computes broadcast |
| 04:26.40 | chouimat | kergoth: got the song? |
| 04:26.41 | kenb | looks like valid bug. |
| 04:27.54 | kergoth | kenb: its valid. ifconfig was being classful |
| 04:28.00 | kergoth | kenb: rather than calculating it |
| 04:28.00 | kenb | k |
| 04:28.05 | ljp | cvs up |
| 04:28.08 | kenb | kergoth: irda is fixed in 3.1rc3, right? |
| 04:28.23 | kergoth | kenb: yeah |
| 04:28.28 | kergoth | ljp: thanks |
| 04:29.40 | kenb | 23 bugs open, 6 pending. |
| 04:30.37 | kenb | fbvncserver tries to load the index.vnc. |
| 04:30.37 | kenb | The file are installed in |
| 04:30.37 | kenb | for it in /usr/local/vnc/classes. |
| 04:30.37 | kenb | workaround: |
| 04:30.37 | kenb | mkdir /usr/local/vnc |
| 04:30.38 | chouimat | hmmm I love that browser identification string ..."Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; fr-fr) AppleWebKit/60 (like Gecko) Safa" |
| 04:30.38 | kenb | cd /usr/local/vnc |
| 04:30.40 | kenb | ln -s /usr/share/fbvncserver/classes/ classes fbvncserver tries to load the index.vnc. |
| 04:30.42 | kenb | The file are installed in |
| 04:30.44 | kenb | for it in /usr/local/vnc/classes. |
| 04:30.46 | kenb | workaround: |
| 04:30.48 | kenb | mkdir /usr/local/vnc |
| 04:30.50 | kenb | cd /usr/local/vnc |
| 04:30.52 | kenb | yikes. |
| 04:30.54 | kenb | stupid irc pastes. |
| 04:31.00 | kenb | kergoth: is vnc fixed in rc3 as well? |
| 04:31.01 | chouimat | kergoth: PING |
| 04:31.02 | kergoth | thats valid. fbvncserver's java web dealy is borked |
| 04:31.06 | kergoth | chouimat: PONG |
| 04:31.08 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah i have it |
| 04:31.10 | kenb | k |
| 04:31.29 | kenb | files installed in /usr/share/fbvncserver/classes, binary looks in /usr/local/vnc/classe |
| 04:31.32 | kergoth | ljp: nice commit message |
| 04:31.33 | kergoth | ljp: :) |
| 04:31.46 | kergoth | kenb: so just need to fix the bad hardcoded path in the binary |
| 04:31.48 | kergoth | kenb: no biggie |
| 04:31.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:31.50 | chouimat | kergoth: don't like to have that webserver being on for too long |
| 04:31.54 | kergoth | chouimat: k |
| 04:32.15 | chouimat | kergoth: that also my firewall so |
| 04:32.24 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:33.14 | chouimat | kergoth: enjoy |
| 04:34.42 | ljp | too big icons |
| 04:35.00 | chouimat | ljp: I'm speaking about the api not the icon |
| 04:36.05 | chouimat | ljp: nice article about gnustep and cross-platform in april 2003 linuxjournal |
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| 04:40.07 | kenb | sleep i think for me |
| 04:40.17 | chouimat|Zzzz | kenb: me too .... |
| 04:40.25 | kenb | I can't stare the bugs pages any longer. |
| 04:40.31 | kenb | but it's well under control now |
| 04:40.36 | kergoth | excellent. nice work ken |
| 04:40.42 | chouimat|Zzzz | kenb: hehe |
| 04:40.48 | kergoth | I'll send out the release announcement before i hit the sack myself |
| 04:41.12 | kenb | is 3.1 coming out tonight then? |
| 04:41.16 | kenb | rc3 i mean. |
| 04:41.19 | kergoth | 3.1rc3? yeah |
| 04:41.35 | kenb | k |
| 04:41.43 | kenb | So I'll flash tomorrow |
| 04:41.45 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: test it before ... if you only release it tomorrow or saturday ... it's ok ... Q&A :) |
| 04:41.53 | _Psycho | where do i find stylus replacement for my c700 ? |
| 04:41.54 | kenb | wasn't sure if you wanted some of us #oe folks to test it first |
| 04:41.57 | kergoth | chouimat|Zzzz: uh, we've tested the base images amongst a bunch of us |
| 04:42.02 | kergoth | chouimat|Zzzz: base is fine |
| 04:42.05 | Bala | did you get the upgrade dependencies to work? or is it still advisable to reflash? |
| 04:42.09 | kenb | I'm more worried about stupid opie bugs. |
| 04:42.10 | kergoth | opie .. well there isnt much we can do even if its hosed |
| 04:42.13 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:42.20 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: ok ... |
| 04:42.24 | kergoth | i mean, i'm not going to hold off the release unless its major opie bugs |
| 04:42.47 | kergoth | besides, its a damn release candidate anyway |
| 04:42.50 | kergoth | not like its a release :) |
| 04:43.07 | chouimat|Zzzz | damn! I like TQS late night series .... |
| 04:43.17 | kergoth | heh, these new icons are a trip |
| 04:43.33 | kenb | I can't wait to see it. |
| 04:43.43 | kergoth | shit, forgot to enable opie-appearance |
| 04:43.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:43.48 | kenb | I'll build FreeS/WAN packages tomorrow. |
| 04:43.52 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:44.01 | kenb | which will make ||ugh happy. |
| 04:44.36 | _Psycho | ok found where to buy stylus phew |
| 04:48.27 | _Psycho | stylus gonna cost me 10$ and 15$ shipping i bet |
| 04:51.10 | kergoth | okay, looking good.. |
| 04:51.29 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: yup that look good .... |
| 04:52.23 | treke|home | ok |
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| 04:52.41 | kergoth | lets see.. update changelog, update unstable feed, copy images and kernels, write announcement, Release to the site, email announcement |
| 04:52.47 | treke|home | I herebye declare anyone who calls the bluez packages broken, "full of shit" |
| 04:52.51 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:52.52 | chouimat|Zzzz | treke|home: that french show is very good .... |
| 04:53.03 | chouimat|Zzzz | it's called Paris Erotique |
| 04:53.09 | kergoth | treke|home: they built fine? |
| 04:53.16 | treke|home | yup |
| 04:53.23 | kergoth | good |
| 04:53.25 | treke|home | except for the dependency issue |
| 04:53.36 | kergoth | yeah, i'll hack on that once i get this released |
| 04:53.38 | treke|home | which has to be something stupid on my part |
| 04:53.44 | kergoth | its probably something simple |
| 04:53.49 | kergoth | usually is |
| 04:54.02 | kergoth | heh, /me pushes another 39 revision changeset |
| 04:54.13 | kergoth | my tree is now fully synced with bk again |
| 04:54.14 | kergoth | whew |
| 04:54.27 | treke|home | kergoth: although last time I had a problem with konqueror doing something similar. So there is a chance it isnt me |
| 04:54.50 | kergoth | k |
| 05:03.04 | kergoth | takepatch: 848 new revisions, 0 conflicts in 262 files |
| 05:03.05 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:03.18 | kergoth | you know, its when i do a pull like that |
| 05:03.21 | kergoth | and bk resolves everything |
| 05:03.25 | kergoth | that i really appreciate bitkeeper |
| 05:03.26 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:04.10 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: too much manipulation :) |
| 05:05.31 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: did you listen to the song? |
| 05:08.41 | _Psycho | well i guess i have to test it tomorow |
| 05:08.41 | _Psycho | night |
| 05:09.20 | chouimat|Zzzz | night _Psycho |
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| 05:13.33 | kergoth | hey numatrix |
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| 05:23.29 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: did you get a DCT5000? |
| 05:23.49 | kergoth | chouimat|Zzzz: yeah |
| 05:24.00 | kergoth | i bough tone anyway |
| 05:24.04 | kergoth | do you know if he shipped them yet? |
| 05:24.29 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: nope ... |
| 05:24.37 | kergoth | hm |
| 05:24.38 | kergoth | k |
| 05:24.43 | kergoth | uploading the rc3 initrd now |
| 05:25.08 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: ok ... I will probably send my check to tomw next week |
| 05:25.17 | treke|home | 19:54 <minipanda> home? |
| 05:25.17 | treke|home | 19:54 <minipanda> ok! see you later! |
| 05:25.17 | treke|home | 20:00 <treke|home> huh? |
| 05:25.17 | treke|home | 21:22 <minipanda> sorry! i've brought an sl-5500 on the net! but that will shipped to my hand next week! :-) but i still not very clear what can i do with that! |
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| 05:25.20 | treke|home | 21:23 <minipanda> i mean i do not want use it as a PDA, but a more powerful mobile device or server! |
| 05:25.23 | treke|home | 21:23 <treke|home> would you like a cookie? |
| 05:25.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:26.37 | chouimat|Zzzz | treke|home: please leave that clueless newbie alone :) |
| 05:26.45 | treke|home | well he messeged me |
| 05:26.49 | treke|home | he's fair game |
| 05:28.13 | zsazs | bah. silly impatient me installed the bipolar initrd/kernel |
| 05:28.16 | zsazs | no workies :) |
| 05:29.08 | chouimat|Zzzz | zsazs: and your pda is dead forever |
| 05:29.54 | zsazs | chouimat, hah, it's dead until I get a cf reader :) |
| 05:29.58 | zsazs | (let's hope) |
| 05:31.59 | chouimat|Zzzz | zsazs: that not sure ... |
| 05:33.15 | kergoth | ~lart chouimat|Zzzz |
| 05:33.26 | zsazs | well, it starts up but just sits there at the OZ logo, so all is not lost :) |
| 05:33.35 | treke|home | zsazs: that's a bad sign |
| 05:33.45 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: come on :) |
| 05:44.42 | chouimat|Zzzz | ok |
| 05:44.49 | chouimat|Zzzz | ok I'm off night guys |
| 05:48.54 | treke|home | kergoth: go to sleep |
| 05:49.20 | kergoth | I will, once i release teh files to the web |
| 05:49.27 | kergoth | maybe i'll wait on the email announcement till morning |
| 05:49.41 | treke|home | yes do that |
| 05:50.03 | gaurdian | kergoth will this be official rc3 or pre-test rc3 ? |
| 05:50.47 | kergoth | its 3.1-rc3. |
| 05:50.51 | gaurdian | ok |
| 05:50.53 | kergoth | no pre, just 3.1rc3 official |
| 05:51.04 | gaurdian | will pound on it tommarrow at work |
| 05:51.12 | kergoth | cool |
| 05:51.54 | gaurdian | will bring my CF reader to work in case "bad things" happen |
| 05:53.04 | gaurdian | kergoth might mention to minipanda that ircing as root is a bad idea |
| 05:53.26 | zsazs | rewwwwwt |
| 06:00.00 | kergoth | shit |
| 06:00.04 | kergoth | i need a name for rc3 |
| 06:00.06 | kergoth | uhm |
| 06:00.17 | kergoth | bofh? |
| 06:00.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:00.39 | kergoth | elohssa |
| 06:03.49 | gaurdian | call it PITA |
| 06:03.59 | gaurdian | or RTFM |
| 06:04.48 | kergoth | too late, its bofh |
| 06:04.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:04.52 | kergoth | its out there |
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| 06:06.05 | *** topic/#openembedded by kergoth -> OpenEmbedded - It Sucks Less! (tm) | http://openzaurus.org/ | http://openembedded.org/ | OpenZaurus 3.1-rc3 released! |
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| 06:08.36 | minipanda | gauridian: :-) why? ircing as root is abad idea? |
| 06:08.54 | minipanda | kergoth : sorry, i'm not very clear about that! |
| 06:09.12 | kergoth | minipanda: http://www.google.com/ |
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| 06:10.01 | minipanda | kergoth: i'm not very clear about what gaurdian's words "kergoth might mention to minipanda that ircing as root is a bad idea" |
| 06:10.27 | kergoth | minipanda: ircing as root is a bad idea. if you want to know _why_, use google and look for yourself. |
| 06:14.04 | minipanda | kergoth: hey dear friend! i'm still can not under stand , is that i said something wrong? sorry? |
| 06:14.29 | kergoth | minipanda: you are logged into your computer as the 'root' user. |
| 06:14.35 | kergoth | minipanda: and you are on IRC as that user. |
| 06:14.41 | kergoth | minipanda: this is BAD |
| 06:15.22 | minipanda | kergoth: correct! but that is my private PC , running redhat linux, :-) is that not a security enough? |
| 06:16.16 | kergoth | minipanda: uh, no. |
| 06:16.34 | kergoth | Please go read. |
| 06:16.34 | minipanda | kergoth: so, what is BAD? |
| 06:16.45 | kergoth | logging onto irc as root is BAD |
| 06:16.51 | kergoth | what part of this do you not understand? |
| 06:17.05 | kergoth | it is a fairly simple concept. |
| 06:17.35 | minipanda | sorry! i'm just a newbie, especially communicate with forgein friends :-) |
| 06:17.49 | billytwowilly | minipanda: basically, being root = you can do anything you want (like rm -rf /) and IRC clients are notorious for being easy to hack (plus you show up as root@yourdns so it is easy to find out who is running as root) |
| 06:17.50 | minipanda | and my irc skill is as poor as my english |
| 06:18.11 | DiamondAL | minipanda: irc opens a door to your computer for all kinds of malicious attacks, which when executed as root user can have drastic effects on your rh pc |
| 06:18.16 | billytwowilly | minipanda: so easy to hack + infinite control of your system + easy to find = you're boned |
| 06:18.42 | minipanda | oh, dear! seems very dangerous! |
| 06:18.45 | billytwowilly | minipanda: you should never run as root, simply su to root when you need to do root things. |
| 06:19.15 | DiamondAL | minipanda: a script/program/etc. would not have to attain root on your machine, it would already be root |
| 06:19.45 | DiamondAL | etc. = exploit |
| 06:20.06 | billytwowilly | *sigh* kinda makes me wish for back when I was 14 and doing script kiddie stuff. minipanda would be an easy target and provide hours of amusement.. |
| 06:20.12 | minipanda | kergoth , DiamondAL, billywowilly! thanks your advices! i must be careful next time! :-) |
| 06:20.37 | DiamondAL | jes |
| 06:21.11 | minipanda | sorry! but i do not think some one here want to control my PC, you are all very good people! very friendly! |
| 06:21.24 | billytwowilly | hehehe. I can't tell if he's using the ! to be patronizing or if he generally is that excited.... |
| 06:21.37 | billytwowilly | I guess I'm just paranoid.. |
| 06:21.47 | kergoth | nothing wrong with some healthy paranoia |
| 06:22.02 | kergoth | cmon people, try out rc3 |
| 06:22.10 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:22.32 | billytwowilly | kergoth: if there are ipaq images I'll probably end up giving em a try this weekend. |
| 06:22.52 | zeronett | kergoth: installing right now |
| 06:23.05 | kergoth | billytwowilly: course thats treke's forte, but i'm sure he'll update em :) |
| 06:23.11 | kergoth | brb |
| 06:23.12 | DiamondAL | kergoth: transferring to flash as we speak |
| 06:23.33 | billytwowilly | kergoth: sounds good. Man, I was just checking out the 5455 ipaq. that thing is joygasmic. |
| 06:24.33 | kergoth | i havent read about that unit yet. should do so |
| 06:26.21 | DiamondAL | kergoth: flashing |
| 06:27.58 | zeronett | kergoth: very nice |
| 06:28.19 | zeronett | kergoth: i like the new icons |
| 06:28.45 | billytwowilly | kergoth: built in 802.11b, bluetooth, 48 MB rom, 64 MB ram, commercial IR, longer battery life than usual for an ipaq. plus a finger print scanner, which is just too cool for the paranoid people out there like me;) |
| 06:28.59 | kergoth | billytwowilly: *drool* |
| 06:29.07 | billytwowilly | cd and sd slot as well I believe. |
| 06:29.13 | billytwowilly | s/cd/cf |
| 06:29.45 | DiamondAL | damn reconfiguring packages |
| 06:30.41 | DiamondAL | billytwowilly: do you own one? how much? |
| 06:30.56 | kergoth | DiamondAL: you like our new quiet bootup? |
| 06:30.57 | billytwowilly | I don't own one. It doesn't work with linux yet. I want one though:) |
| 06:31.00 | kergoth | 'please wait' |
| 06:31.01 | kergoth | heheh |
| 06:31.15 | billytwowilly | DiamondAL: 699 US on the HP website, about a hundred bucks less if you buy through pricegrabber. |
| 06:31.16 | DiamondAL | kergoth: very nice |
| 06:31.22 | DiamondAL | packages done |
| 06:31.34 | DiamondAL | ahhh calibration |
| 06:32.31 | DiamondAL | yeah, very sweet, there are some of the icons from the screenshots, nice |
| 06:32.48 | kergoth | yeah, thank the opie folks |
| 06:32.50 | DiamondAL | eject cf, insert wifi |
| 06:33.43 | DiamondAL | wifi got set up ok |
| 06:34.22 | DiamondAL | ssh, ok |
| 06:35.51 | DiamondAL | got time from network |
| 06:35.57 | DiamondAL | date had to be set |
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| 06:38.56 | DiamondAL | its pretty quick, seems responsive and stable so far, gonna load some packages |
| 06:39.07 | DiamondAL | need konq/e |
| 06:39.38 | kergoth | ah yeah, forgot konq/e isnt in unstable atm. it's still in the official/3.1rc2/feed/ dir on openzaurus.org for now |
| 06:40.19 | billytwowilly | hey, has there been any talk of supporting toshiba's PDA? |
| 06:40.40 | kergoth | they have linux running on it yet? |
| 06:40.46 | minipanda | kergoth: ok, i've login again as a normal user this time! but please do not laugh me so loudly next time. :-) thanks |
| 06:40.53 | kergoth | minipanda: :) |
| 06:41.18 | billytwowilly | kergoth: that linux running on it question aimed at me? because I don't know.. |
| 06:41.24 | kergoth | billytwowilly: yeah |
| 06:41.27 | kergoth | k |
| 06:41.34 | billytwowilly | that's why i'm asking here;) |
| 06:41.40 | kergoth | man i hate building konqe |
| 06:41.42 | kergoth | takes so long |
| 06:47.55 | gaurdian | kergoth how "stable" is konq ? |
| 06:49.20 | DiamondAL | kergoth: should i do oz-base and oz-base-sysvinit upgrades from opie? or from console only? |
| 06:50.57 | gaurdian | takes a while to boot I see |
| 06:53.21 | DiamondAL | text still jumps up and down in aqpkg's install log |
| 06:53.25 | kergoth | DiamondAL: upgrades? they havent changed. there are no new versions to obtain |
| 06:53.34 | kergoth | DiamondAL: report opie bugs in opie's bug tracking system. |
| 06:53.36 | kergoth | ibot: opie bugs |
| 06:53.37 | | opie bugs is probably http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 06:53.52 | DiamondAL | got it |
| 06:53.55 | gaurdian | kergoth , if you want, I will keep a little log of how the pounding goes and email it off to you |
| 06:53.59 | kergoth | gaurdian: dont ask me, i dont browse the web on my Z generally |
| 06:54.03 | kergoth | gaurdian: that'd be great |
| 06:54.20 | gaurdian | ok will do |
| 06:57.10 | DiamondAL | kergoth: massive file download going, will come back to oz-base issue, with version numbers (installed and available) |
| 06:57.26 | kergoth | what oz-base issue? |
| 06:58.08 | kergoth | 3.1-rc3-1 is the version of the current oz-base packages |
| 06:59.33 | DiamondAL | on my system: oz-base v.installed-3.1-rc2-20f v.available-3.1-rc3-1 |
| 07:00.25 | DiamondAL | oz-base-sysinit same as above |
| 07:00.41 | gaurdian | kergoth , ok I am noyt a linux guy, whats the fdisk command to fdisk the SD ? |
| 07:00.44 | DiamondAL | there is a little star in the blue orbs of them both |
| 07:02.12 | DiamondAL | kergoth: none of the other packages have a star, must be a ipkg list/dbase issue, right? |
| 07:02.49 | gaurdian | anyone ? |
| 07:03.44 | kergoth | DiamondAL: hm, must have forgotten to update the image w/ the new packages |
| 07:03.44 | kergoth | DiamondAL: doesnt matter, the content of 3.1-rc2-20f is identical to 3.1-rc3-1, i just updated the versioning to match the release |
| 07:04.44 | DiamondAL | ahhh, cool |
| 07:05.15 | gaurdian | fdisk is giving me a bus error |
| 07:05.17 | DiamondAL | fwiw, the numlock and caps lock indicators by the clock are gone too |
| 07:05.46 | DiamondAL | vnc (keypebble) works great!! much faster |
| 07:06.20 | kergoth | gaurdian: ls -l /sbin/fdisk .. its a symlink to busybox, right? |
| 07:06.34 | DiamondAL | don't know what i need to do to get the double click activated in the menu |
| 07:07.02 | gaurdian | yes it is |
| 07:07.18 | kergoth | hm, something weird is going on |
| 07:07.19 | gaurdian | it is a symlink |
| 07:07.26 | kergoth | both util-linux fdisk and busybox fdisk bus error? |
| 07:07.30 | kergoth | that cant be coincidence |
| 07:07.43 | gaurdian | I dont know about util-linux |
| 07:07.45 | kergoth | i tested the util-linux one earlier, it bus errors as soon as you hit p |
| 07:07.49 | kergoth | or n, or anything |
| 07:07.56 | gaurdian | same with ythe busybox one |
| 07:08.02 | kergoth | thats messed up. |
| 07:08.30 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:08.45 | gaurdian | so I am gonna format the card fat now, I think its trashed atm |
| 07:08.55 | kergoth | hit up ipkgfind |
| 07:08.56 | kergoth | try the ifdisk package there |
| 07:09.00 | kergoth | s/ifdisk/fdisk/ |
| 07:09.24 | gaurdian | uh...ok, just download and install that one ? |
| 07:10.09 | kergoth | yeah |
| 07:10.12 | kergoth | try that one |
| 07:10.27 | gaurdian | uh, reboot isnt working either |
| 07:10.35 | kergoth | huh? |
| 07:10.37 | kergoth | reboot works fine |
| 07:10.40 | DiamondAL | irc works |
| 07:10.44 | kergoth | it just hangs a bit while its shutting down |
| 07:10.55 | kergoth | sysvinit is just as quiet at shutdown as it was on bootup. |
| 07:11.02 | gaurdian | in the gui, the reboot button isnt doing anything |
| 07:11.08 | gaurdian | ahh..OK..understood |
| 07:11.16 | gaurdian | got ya |
| 07:11.24 | kergoth | brb |
| 07:11.58 | kergoth | err |
| 07:11.59 | kergoth | wtf? |
| 07:12.03 | gaurdian | ? |
| 07:12.14 | kergoth | heh, that reboot thing is weird isnt it |
| 07:12.23 | kergoth | it needs a "Shutting down.." popup or something |
| 07:12.26 | gaurdian | very, still hasnt rebooted |
| 07:12.36 | kergoth | gaurdian: try dropping to a console and running reboot there |
| 07:12.46 | kergoth | reboot returns immediately to another prompt, looks like it didnt do anything |
| 07:12.49 | kergoth | but hen reboots fine |
| 07:13.03 | kergoth | heheh |
| 07:13.11 | DiamondAL | kergoth: sysvinit is very quiet!! |
| 07:13.12 | kergoth | we dont see the shutting down messages, too damn silent :) |
| 07:13.15 | kergoth | yes |
| 07:13.32 | gaurdian | typed reboot in console |
| 07:13.37 | gaurdian | rebooted fast |
| 07:13.40 | DiamondAL | hehe |
| 07:14.11 | DiamondAL | kergoth: term opie--> console --> "reboot" worked |
| 07:14.18 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:14.21 | kergoth | yes, he said that already |
| 07:16.59 | kergoth | read the code, it calls shutdown -r now |
| 07:17.03 | kergoth | so test shutdown -r now in console |
| 07:17.08 | kergoth | works right away too |
| 07:17.09 | kergoth | weird |
| 07:17.44 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 07:18.00 | DiamondAL | kergoth: Opie is not shutting down or rebooting (red buttons) yellow buttons work (terminate opie and the other one) |
| 07:18.15 | kergoth | ? |
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| 07:18.16 | kergoth | yes, i know |
| 07:18.30 | kergoth | and i just said |
| 07:18.32 | kergoth | i read the code |
| 07:18.37 | kergoth | do i have to say everything again |
| 07:18.38 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:18.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:19.13 | DiamondAL | ahhhhh: when i clicked reboot, i got a white screen with the link light on the wifi card blinking, both leds above the keyboard are on |
| 07:19.21 | DiamondAL | gotta hard reset |
| 07:19.36 | kergoth | you rebooted without suspending at least once |
| 07:19.43 | kergoth | known bug, both in sharp and OZ |
| 07:19.55 | DiamondAL | yep, been through this before |
| 07:20.12 | DiamondAL | ok, now i know how to stop that, hah! |
| 07:20.18 | DiamondAL | thanks kergoth |
| 07:20.27 | kergoth | np |
| 07:20.33 | kergoth | this shutdown thing is really weird. |
| 07:20.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:20.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:21.11 | gaurdian | about to install my tkc apps, so will let ya know how that goes |
| 07:21.22 | kergoth | if i run shutdown -r now from the file manager's run box |
| 07:21.30 | kergoth | it does the same thing.. nothing happens |
| 07:21.34 | kergoth | but if you run it from a terminal, it works fine |
| 07:21.37 | kergoth | thats fucking weird. |
| 07:21.59 | kergoth | it _must_ be bound to stdin/stdout of the spawned process |
| 07:22.02 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:22.10 | kergoth | and must have something to do with my silencing of sysvinit |
| 07:28.04 | DiamondAL | man another thing is I don't see the ramdisk either with the mount or df commands or in the system info application |
| 07:29.01 | kergoth | ah, thats a legitimate bug |
| 07:29.11 | kergoth | 3 misplaced shell lines.. bleh |
| 07:35.12 | gaurdian | odd, not letting me ftp in but I can ssh in |
| 07:35.53 | gaurdian | any ideas kergoth ? I am useing same user pass as when I ssh |
| 07:36.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:36.44 | kergoth | sync password is always rootme, username root |
| 07:36.52 | kergoth | has to remain that way for syncing to work |
| 07:36.58 | gaurdian | I can ssh in fine but cant ftp in. Same user/pass, port 4242 |
| 07:37.04 | kergoth | since qtopia desktop and intellisync dont let you set the username/pass |
| 07:37.12 | kergoth | yes, and i'm telling you that swrong. |
| 07:37.19 | kergoth | ftp port 4242 is used for ysncing |
| 07:37.24 | kergoth | u: root, p: rootme |
| 07:37.29 | kergoth | regardless of your actual root password |
| 07:37.33 | gaurdian | hmm ok |
| 07:37.49 | gaurdian | but with the shard rom I used my root pass...this is different, ok |
| 07:38.06 | gaurdian | but it worked, thankya |
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| 07:42.58 | gaurdian | Mem: 39824K used, 10380K free, 0K shrd, 8044K buff, 19612K cached <<-- while installing ipk's |
| 07:45.47 | gaurdian | well, TKC apps seem to be installing fine kergoth |
| 07:45.53 | gaurdian | this release looking good |
| 07:46.37 | kergoth | course i realized too late that mtdram/mtdblock6 wasnt being mounted |
| 07:46.49 | kergoth | uploaded a fixed oz-base and released a fixed initrd.bin as well |
| 07:47.43 | gaurdian | ahh...OK....what are those ? |
| 07:47.54 | kergoth | what are what? |
| 07:47.57 | kergoth | its the ramdisk |
| 07:47.58 | DiamondAL | kergoth: thanks |
| 07:48.00 | kergoth | you pick 40-24 |
| 07:48.06 | kergoth | theres a 24mb persistant ramdisk |
| 07:48.07 | gaurdian | ahh...guess I need those eh :) |
| 07:48.10 | kergoth | that ramdisk wasnt being mounted |
| 07:48.20 | kergoth | so you either need to upgrade oz-base, or flash rc3.1, to see the fix |
| 07:48.23 | DiamondAL | it was upon flash |
| 07:48.42 | gaurdian | so I will just re flash a new initrd |
| 07:48.43 | kergoth | DiamondAL: upgrade oz-base or flash to rc3.1 :) |
| 07:48.43 | DiamondAL | i had a boat load of apps on it, and links were made an all |
| 07:49.17 | DiamondAL | I am gonna try upgrading the oz-base, never done that before |
| 07:49.21 | kergoth | you mean you were installing to the ram ipkg dest when it wasnt mounted? |
| 07:49.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:49.26 | gaurdian | just need a new initrd.bin correct ? |
| 07:49.30 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:49.34 | DiamondAL | do you gotta do it from console? or can i do it from opie? |
| 07:49.42 | kergoth | DiamondAL: shouldnt matter. |
| 07:50.24 | DiamondAL | kergoth: when i first flashed: the ramdisk must have been there with the flash, i guess, cuz i had like 20 progies in it |
| 07:50.46 | DiamondAL | had keypebble, bash, less, ahhh, opie-ftp, etc, etc. |
| 07:50.51 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:51.04 | DiamondAL | yep, my sentiments exactly |
| 07:51.08 | kergoth | the ramdisk wasnt mounting at all. |
| 07:51.20 | kergoth | well |
| 07:51.30 | kergoth | ohh |
| 07:51.31 | kergoth | i gotcha |
| 07:51.32 | kergoth | yeah |
| 07:51.38 | kergoth | it was mounting it alright, only on the first boot |
| 07:51.39 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:51.46 | kergoth | sorry, its late |
| 07:51.50 | DiamondAL | np |
| 07:52.22 | DiamondAL | all that would not fit in 3MB left in flash space |
| 07:52.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:52.30 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:52.55 | DiamondAL | going for oz-base update |
| 07:54.13 | DiamondAL | did both oz-base and oz-base-sysvinit |
| 07:54.18 | kergoth | k |
| 07:54.23 | DiamondAL | both completed successfully |
| 07:54.31 | kergoth | good, now reboot |
| 07:54.44 | DiamondAL | rebooting |
| 07:54.51 | kergoth | speaking of which, that weird opie/reboot thing needs to get fixed, i'll look into it in the morning |
| 07:55.14 | DiamondAL | cool |
| 07:55.20 | DiamondAL | suspending before boot |
| 07:55.32 | DiamondAL | terminating opie |
| 07:56.18 | HCl | hum |
| 07:56.25 | HCl | didnt oz run on qt 3.x? |
| 07:56.27 | DiamondAL | init booting .... |
| 07:56.47 | kergoth | HCl: ? |
| 07:56.55 | kergoth | HCl: that would break sharp rom compatibility. |
| 07:56.58 | DiamondAL | wait |
| 07:57.00 | HCl | kergoth: im reading about compiling opie |
| 07:57.07 | HCl | i thought oz ran qt 3.x |
| 07:57.11 | HCl | but i guess it doesnt |
| 07:57.12 | HCl | i see |
| 07:57.13 | DiamondAL | now i got the ram disk back with all them progies |
| 07:57.14 | DiamondAL | hehehe |
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| 07:57.22 | DiamondAL | wow that is something |
| 07:57.25 | kergoth | DiamondAL: good good |
| 07:57.31 | DiamondAL | all the progies came back |
| 07:57.49 | DiamondAL | wonder if they are in the package manager index again |
| 07:57.57 | kergoth | DiamondAL: you see why i got that fix out fast. pretty major issue |
| 07:58.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:58.08 | DiamondAL | hehehe, yep |
| 07:58.18 | DiamondAL | and konq/e is available |
| 07:58.22 | DiamondAL | gonna get it now |
| 07:58.52 | DiamondAL | gets knoq full and gif to ram |
| 08:00.25 | DiamondAL | konqe gif works, but the full snapshot fails |
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| 08:00.49 | kergoth | fails why? |
| 08:01.56 | DiamondAL | "/tmp/ipkg-us1Pei/konqueror-snapshot-full-v7A403/preinst: Permission denied" |
| 08:02.10 | kergoth | hm |
| 08:02.12 | DiamondAL | first time, mirc thought it was a command |
| 08:02.14 | DiamondAL | hehehe |
| 08:04.00 | DiamondAL | pkg_run_script: '/tmp/ipkg.....konqueror-snapshot....preinst install' failed: No such file or directory |
| 08:05.22 | kergoth | I confirmed, the preinst in the ipk is executable |
| 08:05.23 | kergoth | odd |
| 08:06.10 | gaurdian | odd, when I place the Z in the cradle its about 50% time the usb link doesnt come up |
| 08:06.58 | kergoth | come up on Z side or desktop side? |
| 08:07.18 | DiamondAL | I have a txt file for the whole log, you want it? kergoth? i can dcc it to you zipped |
| 08:07.21 | gaurdian | NM...my fault...I figured out what was up |
| 08:07.22 | kergoth | Z side has a timing issue. occasionally you need to run ifdown usbd0; ifup usbd0; |
| 08:07.23 | gaurdian | its fine |
| 08:07.26 | kergoth | k |
| 08:09.58 | gaurdian | so kergoth , that fdisk issue can be a killer also, might want to drop a note about it in the faq |
| 08:10.05 | DiamondAL | kergoth: get the file |
| 08:11.17 | kergoth | the fdisk bus error? |
| 08:11.19 | kergoth | k |
| 08:11.48 | gaurdian | yea, that fdisk error |
| 08:12.17 | gaurdian | either that or people gonna ask whats up with it all the time |
| 08:13.04 | kergoth | yeah |
| 08:13.05 | HCl | ibot: buildroot |
| 08:13.09 | | buildroot is probably a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project, or see oz buildroot |
| 08:13.09 | kergoth | thats such a weird error |
| 08:13.22 | kergoth | i mean, that it occurs in both busybox and util-linux |
| 08:13.25 | HCl | ibot: oz buildroot |
| 08:13.26 | | from memory, oz bk is bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/collie-opie .config (for zaurus 5000d/5500) .. make oldconfig; make; or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you either cannot or will not use bitkeeper. |
| 08:13.29 | kergoth | both alignment problems trying to do the same thing |
| 08:13.46 | HCl | ibot: oz snapshot |
| 08:13.47 | | extra, extra, read all about it, oz snapshot is http://openzaurus.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ or updated every 4 hours by Navi or this is a snapshot of the bk oz buildroot tree use it to compile your own OZ if you don't want to use BK |
| 08:15.59 | gaurdian | and the issue with the usb base is annoying but can be dealt with |
| 08:21.09 | kergoth | what issue with the usb base? |
| 08:21.35 | gaurdian | the timing issue, sometimes comes up/sometimes doesnt |
| 08:21.49 | gaurdian | It wasnt me after all, I thought I had a bad setting, I dident |
| 08:22.03 | kergoth | theres nothing I can to do fix it short of fixing lineo's USBD stack |
| 08:22.13 | gaurdian | when I put the Z in the cradle, sometimes the network connection comes up, sometimes not |
| 08:22.14 | kergoth | we're moving to a newer version of it from the c700 sources though |
| 08:22.19 | kergoth | which may or may not fix it. |
| 08:22.23 | gaurdian | hmm ok |
| 08:22.53 | kergoth | but hopefully.. |
| 08:22.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:23.10 | kergoth | hm, something weird is going on with irda |
| 08:27.06 | DiamondAL | kergoth`zzz: good night, we can pick this up tomorrow |
| 08:27.31 | DiamondAL | kergoth: i have a send waiting for you |
| 08:31.03 | kergoth`zzz | I dont accept dccs. email it. |
| 08:31.05 | kergoth`zzz | ibot: kergoth |
| 08:31.05 | | i heard kergoth is at kergoth@handhelds.org, or that openzaurus guy |
| 08:31.39 | kergoth`zzz | alright me -> bed before i fall asleep on the keyborad |
| 08:31.52 | DiamondAL | kergoth`zzz: ok will do, good night, talk to you tomorrow, me too |
| 08:32.05 | DiamondAL | good night, all |
| 08:33.45 | gaurdian | control c is what key combo ? |
| 08:34.53 | yeiazel | Fn C |
| 08:35.05 | yeiazel | control is only Fn with X C and V |
| 08:35.16 | yeiazel | and Fn+Shift with the other keys |
| 08:35.38 | HCl | ohh |
| 08:39.21 | HCl | hmmzz |
| 08:39.35 | HCl | what fs should the cf be when you want to flash the zaurus |
| 08:39.57 | yeiazel | fat |
| 08:40.01 | HCl | hmmz |
| 08:40.10 | yeiazel | you need a fat cf ^^ |
| 08:40.13 | HCl | mkfs.msdos on my zaurus keeps formatting them to vfat |
| 08:40.18 | yeiazel | no pb |
| 08:40.22 | HCl | thats ok too? |
| 08:40.28 | yeiazel | I think so |
| 08:40.49 | HCl | meh... i have to be sure.. dont want to fuck up my zaurus.. |
| 08:41.25 | HCl | anyone? |
| 08:41.29 | yeiazel | do you have a pc (usb/pcmcia/...) cf reader ? |
| 08:41.33 | HCl | no.. |
| 08:41.44 | yeiazel | do you know someone that has one ? |
| 08:41.50 | HCl | i suppose |
| 08:42.56 | yeiazel | the flash system is not corrupted if the flashing fails, you can just prepare another cf and re-flash |
| 08:43.08 | yeiazel | anyway, if the FS is not correct, flashing will not work |
| 08:43.26 | HCl | hm |
| 08:43.29 | HCl | sure? |
| 08:43.35 | yeiazel | like say, if the fs is ext2, the flash system wouldn't understand, and it wouldn't flash |
| 08:43.38 | yeiazel | sure |
| 09:17.50 | HCl | meh... the buildroot wont build x.x |
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| 10:39.00 | troffasky | is there a zaurus-SD-card-root HOWTO? |
| 10:40.25 | yeiazel | there is an entry in the oz faq :) |
| 10:41.16 | troffasky | thnks |
| 10:42.46 | yeiazel | but I think it's possible to do more than what is just explained in the faq; but it would be difficult |
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| 10:56.13 | troffasky | yeiazel: what do you mean? |
| 10:56.33 | troffasky | would I have to create an initrd kernel image with the SD module in? |
| 10:57.54 | troffasky | or would it be easier to just pivot_root to the SD card? |
| 11:08.18 | yeiazel | never done that, nor thought about it. It's juste as supposition |
| 11:08.46 | yeiazel | I have made symlinks for /opt, /home, /root, as explained in the faq, but it's not really clean... |
| 11:14.45 | troffasky | no, and you can't do the whole / like that |
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| 13:09.07 | kenb | yes |
| 13:11.09 | yeiazel | sure |
| 13:14.50 | kenb | of course. |
| 13:15.40 | yeiazel | doesn't someone agree ? |
| 13:21.24 | ljp | with what? |
| 13:28.14 | kenb | hm |
| 13:28.21 | kenb | when's the damn 5600 out? |
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| 13:31.07 | ccamp | TGIMFF |
| 13:38.51 | yeiazel | wtf is so impressive with the 5600 ? |
| 13:38.56 | yeiazel | buy a c700 :) |
| 14:02.27 | kenb | not available in the US easily |
| 14:02.32 | kenb | and OZ doesn't run on it yet. |
| 14:07.04 | yeiazel | it will. soon. |
| 14:07.05 | yeiazel | :) |
| 14:07.18 | yeiazel | and you just need a friend going to japan :) |
| 14:11.23 | kenb | I have one coming back. |
| 14:11.32 | kenb | next month, actually. So I've been tempted. |
| 14:11.55 | yeiazel | hehe |
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| 14:28.04 | treke|home | or you could order from conics for what? 50 bucks over retail? |
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| 16:02.51 | bipolar | hi everyone |
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| 16:11.15 | treke | morning bipolar |
| 16:11.26 | bipolar | treke: good morning |
| 16:12.57 | ccamp | ho ho ho |
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| 16:20.44 | Dess|Away | lo all ;) |
| 16:20.59 | bipolar | hi Dessimat0r |
| 16:21.24 | Dessimat0r | w00t, RC3.1 is out ;) |
| 16:24.08 | ccamp | ugh |
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| 16:32.28 | ccamp | are the hostap-moduoles with the wcf11 in rc3.1? |
| 16:32.35 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:37.06 | icefox | yah |
| 16:39.19 | treke | hrm. oz is in red on killefiz site |
| 16:39.55 | ccamp | icefox: was that a yes to my Q? |
| 16:40.48 | icefox | yup |
| 16:41.15 | ljp_w | is there going to be a 5600d ? ;) |
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| 16:41.24 | treke | ljp_w: yes |
| 16:41.30 | ljp_w | really?! |
| 16:41.31 | treke | ljp_w: it will have 16mb of ram |
| 16:41.55 | bipolar | is anyone else able to bk pull buildroot? I get a "Repository is locked" error. |
| 16:42.19 | bipolar | treke: you mean 64MB of ram, right? |
| 16:42.29 | treke | bipolar: no |
| 16:42.32 | chouimat | bipolar: no 16MB |
| 16:42.37 | treke | bipolar: what does bk parent say? |
| 16:42.46 | treke | bipolar: that is what we call a joke |
| 16:42.58 | bipolar | Parent repository is http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot |
| 16:43.10 | bipolar | treke: joke? :p |
| 16:43.10 | treke | someone may be pushing |
| 16:43.29 | treke | bipolar: yes. the developer release had half the ram of the real one... :) |
| 16:43.47 | bipolar | hehe |
| 16:43.52 | ljp_w | still does |
| 16:44.10 | bipolar | bk pull |
| 16:44.12 | bipolar | Entire repository is locked by: |
| 16:44.13 | ljp_w | I have two 5000d and they both still have only 16 mb ram |
| 16:44.14 | bipolar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.16 | bipolar | ERROR-Unable to lock repository for update. |
| 16:44.27 | bipolar | ahh.... |
| 16:44.29 | treke | bipolar: bk resolvve |
| 16:44.40 | treke | ljp_w: Then you got screwed |
| 16:44.41 | bipolar | bk is running in the background somewhere.... |
| 16:44.44 | treke | ljp_w: they should have 32 :) |
| 16:45.01 | treke | bipolar: btw, I build bluez yesterday. Other than the dependency problem they compiled fine |
| 16:45.18 | treke | bipolar: might be the old ass kernel on the zaurus |
| 16:45.36 | ljp_w | 32 mb would make it a 5500 |
| 16:45.50 | treke | ljp_w: 64 makes it a 5500 |
| 16:50.02 | bipolar | shit... I'm going to have to wipe my tree and start over... damnit |
| 16:50.15 | treke | bipolar: por que? |
| 16:50.22 | james_lan | that's bad |
| 16:50.33 | treke | james_lan: eh, just out some time |
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| 16:51.15 | bipolar | I accedently ran a bk pull as root, then tried to chmod -R user.user * Should have used chown... It was late last night.... ;p |
| 16:51.37 | james_lan | eww |
| 16:51.40 | treke | bipolar: chmod -r user.user shouldnt do anything... |
| 16:51.55 | bipolar | something fscked it up |
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| 16:52.07 | treke | chmod: invalid mode string: `500.500' |
| 16:52.31 | bipolar | dmalloc: ask what? |
| 16:52.36 | dmalloc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.19 | james_lan | yes, (- read) (if chmod -r user.user) or recursive (-R), hmmm, shouldn't have an effect. |
| 16:53.43 | chouimat | http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html |
| 16:54.08 | treke | james_lan: only if he has a user.user folder :) |
| 16:54.11 | dmalloc | treke: that is indeed an invalid mode string, what did you try to set ? (I mean which rights) |
| 16:54.32 | treke | dmalloc: I know it was an invalid mode string. Was just testing something |
| 16:55.11 | treke | chown -R ggilbert.ggilbert / |
| 16:55.17 | treke | no more of that pesky root crap |
| 16:55.26 | dmalloc | that works with a . on your system ? |
| 16:55.47 | treke | dmalloc: yeah. I know it unportable :) |
| 16:56.03 | james_lan | be back in a bit, have to install something in windows on this box (mirph mirph mirph) |
| 16:56.19 | treke | I shouldnt be getting used to it, just like I shouldnt get used to killall |
| 16:56.25 | ljp_w | heh, one reboot, coming up! |
| 16:56.26 | dmalloc | hrrm well time to go research the keyboard issue then. thanks. |
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| 17:01.04 | james_lan | back on another terminal |
| 17:01.34 | zeronett | does anyone know if there are drivers out there that utilize the low power consumption for the socket wlan cards? |
| 17:02.40 | james_lan | should be, don't have one and don't know model numbers, but socket wlan cards seem to work according to other people. |
| 17:04.04 | zeronett | well it works.... but the the symbol card is supposed to use less battery so you should be able to use it for upto 8 hours... instead of the 30-40 mins on regular cards |
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| 17:07.51 | kergoth`zzz | whew |
| 17:08.03 | kergoth`zzz | I need some coffee before I start replying to the list traffic. |
| 17:10.02 | kenb | heh |
| 17:11.17 | kergoth`zzz | kenb: you see someone reported the cardctl eject hang? i have no idea what causes it now |
| 17:11.17 | sukoshi | kergoth`zzz: hello |
| 17:11.22 | sukoshi | & good luck |
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| 17:26.50 | kergoth | hm, never wrote a release announcement email to the lists. suppose i should do so. |
| 17:28.34 | treke | kergoth: dont :) |
| 17:28.56 | treke | kergoth: wait and see how many morons ask when 3.1 will come out without actually looking to see if it is out |
| 17:29.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:29.11 | treke | then berate them for not looking |
| 17:29.12 | kergoth | that'd be good entertainment |
| 17:29.14 | kergoth | yea |
| 17:29.50 | kergoth | well shit, lets do damage control. fix as many of hte outstanding bugs as I can, perhaps even throw out rc3.2 |
| 17:30.04 | kergoth | make the users that did figure out it was released a beta test |
| 17:30.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:30.12 | dmalloc | kergoth: Is the keyboard driver for the zaurus sl5500G hardcoded in OZ 3.1rc2 ? (as in do I have tio use an eglish "keyboard" with german keyboard layout? ) |
| 17:30.24 | kergoth | dmalloc: install keyz |
| 17:30.30 | kergoth | dmalloc: applet that lets you manipulate the hardware keyboard |
| 17:30.50 | dmalloc | thank you kindly |
| 17:30.53 | kergoth | dmalloc: its hardcoded because of the idiotic way sharp/lineo handled it |
| 17:30.58 | kergoth | and 2.4.19 is nicely remappable |
| 17:31.17 | JasonNJ | kergoth: whazzup? |
| 17:31.19 | dmalloc | guess I should update to rc3 first |
| 17:31.21 | JasonNJ | 3.1 got released? |
| 17:31.26 | kergoth | no, 3.1-rc3 did |
| 17:31.27 | treke | JasonNJ: RC3.1 |
| 17:31.32 | kergoth | and very quickly, rc3.1 |
| 17:31.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:31.36 | JasonNJ | why |
| 17:31.40 | JasonNJ | broke? |
| 17:32.03 | kergoth | I'm thinking I'll go with a quicker release cycle now as I approach final |
| 17:32.09 | kergoth | yeah, it wasnt mounting the ramdisk |
| 17:32.25 | kergoth | becuase 3 lines in a shell script needed to be moved down by one line :) |
| 17:32.47 | yeiazel | :) |
| 17:33.07 | kergoth | that shutdown/reboot behavior is weird. |
| 17:33.10 | kergoth | researching it now |
| 17:34.14 | kergoth | hey we should make opie pick up wall/mesg messages |
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| 17:34.18 | kergoth | make a lil popup |
| 17:34.26 | kergoth | "the system is going down in .." |
| 17:34.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:35.29 | dmalloc | kergoth: I really don't want to be annoying, but I checked unstable, stable and testing for keyz and I seem to have overlooked it, is it in there or do I need to get it from some place else ? |
| 17:35.45 | kergoth | uh |
| 17:35.49 | kergoth | I never claimed keyz was part of OZ. |
| 17:35.54 | kergoth | go to ZSI like everybody else |
| 17:37.31 | dmalloc | thank you, found it |
| 17:37.49 | kergoth | np |
| 17:39.31 | JasonNJ | kergoth: does it incorporate the new logo yet? |
| 17:40.57 | kergoth | JasonNJ: no |
| 17:41.02 | JasonNJ | aw |
| 17:41.08 | kergoth | final will. |
| 17:41.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:41.26 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 17:42.32 | JasonNJ | the kernel and zimage up there is still bad? |
| 17:43.19 | kergoth | ? |
| 17:43.27 | kergoth | i said, i released 3.1rc3.1 |
| 17:43.29 | JasonNJ | never mind, its booting |
| 17:43.30 | kergoth | with the fix |
| 17:43.31 | Dessimat0r | The Zaurus still crashes when you tuen it on in the cradle |
| 17:44.33 | kergoth | Dessimat0r: you mean it still crashes for you :) |
| 17:44.44 | kergoth | I still cant reproduce that problem |
| 17:45.35 | chouimat | kergoth: I think it's time I update rc1 to the new rc3.1 |
| 17:45.42 | kergoth | chouimat: good plan |
| 17:46.07 | chouimat | kergoth: need flash? or just updating the packages? |
| 17:46.23 | kergoth | you should flash. |
| 17:46.35 | kergoth | there were kernel fixes, and our upgrade path is somewhat hosed |
| 17:46.56 | chouimat | ok ... I need food |
| 17:46.57 | dmalloc | hrrrm love that keyz thing ,) |
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| 17:53.56 | zeronett | does anyone here have kismet working w/ a socket wlan card? |
| 17:54.30 | zeronett | or does anyone know of any good directions online |
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| 18:00.08 | treke | note to self, when installing linux on my new machine, make a bigger fricken /tmp |
| 18:03.32 | dmalloc | note to treke: and always put /tmp on its own partition ;) |
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| 18:06.35 | treke | dmalloc: That I always do :) |
| 18:07.03 | treke | I just need to remember to give it a bit more space :) vmware has been eating all of it up. |
| 18:08.13 | ccamp | eww vmware |
| 18:08.14 | treke | it always feels dirty when I just see a big / and nothing else |
| 18:08.31 | ccamp | vmware on anyhting less thatn a p4000 sucks it |
| 18:08.54 | treke | woks on my celeron 933 laptop |
| 18:09.29 | ccamp | with linux as a host.... or guest? |
| 18:09.34 | treke | both |
| 18:09.46 | treke | plus windows as a guest |
| 18:09.47 | ccamp | .... work yes |
| 18:09.54 | treke | ccamp: Work well. |
| 18:09.57 | ccamp | fast.. i cant imagine |
| 18:10.23 | ccamp | cool, maybe they have made some improvements since i last tried it |
| 18:10.43 | treke | I wouldnt call it fast. It's stable and responsive though |
| 18:10.49 | ccamp | nice |
| 18:11.10 | treke | outlook, excel, and word dont need fast :) |
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| 18:12.49 | JasonNJ | weird, konq errors out when it installs |
| 18:13.16 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:13.19 | kergoth | preinst permission error |
| 18:13.21 | kergoth | pretty weird |
| 18:13.51 | ccamp | whats the good word kergoth |
| 18:13.58 | kergoth | will have to investigate it or talk to simon, he maintains the konq build |
| 18:15.14 | JasonNJ | the ntpdate shit isnt working |
| 18:15.23 | JasonNJ | in the time applet |
| 18:15.27 | kergoth | uh |
| 18:15.29 | dmalloc | http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=326 <-- neat.. runs fine on the zaurus as it seems ;) |
| 18:15.37 | JasonNJ | it retrieves the time but it doesnt set it in teh gui |
| 18:16.36 | kergoth | JasonNJ: http://opie.info/bugs/ |
| 18:17.24 | JasonNJ | nah it works |
| 18:17.31 | JasonNJ | took me a few tries to set it right |
| 18:17.36 | JasonNJ | fucking interface is wonky |
| 18:17.55 | kergoth | yes, the UI is unintuitive |
| 18:18.22 | ccamp | what sort of an addon do you need for that |
| 18:18.37 | dmalloc | what I noticed as well is, that the console time is UTC while the opie time is correctly set as mest |
| 18:18.39 | dmalloc | hehe funny |
| 18:19.09 | kergoth | dmalloc: opie isnt adjusting the localtime symlink |
| 18:19.18 | kergoth | dmalloc: opie problem. been planning on fixing it for ages |
| 18:19.23 | kergoth | never got around to it |
| 18:19.29 | dmalloc | hehe was just fun looking at that ;) |
| 18:21.09 | kergoth | yea, opie should Play Nice |
| 18:23.35 | dmalloc | I shoudl write a T68i <--> Zaurus sync (via bluetooth) |
| 18:23.48 | kergoth | hrmmm |
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| 18:26.35 | MSpin | dmalloc: that would rock:) |
| 18:26.38 | ||ugh | dmalloc, try to make the sync a bit more generic, _some_ of us have other bluetooth devices (say a T39...). |
| 18:27.08 | dmalloc | well as far as I understood so far, the data is stored in xml, so making it generic should not be too hard |
| 18:27.23 | dmalloc | just have a dataformat plugin for "t69i, t38" and so on |
| 18:27.24 | kergoth | hm hm hm |
| 18:28.15 | dmalloc | I'd really like to do it for nokia too but their bluetooth support sucks |
| 18:30.06 | MSpin | you could also support ir syncing |
| 18:30.45 | dmalloc | I have no idea about ir though hehe |
| 18:31.19 | MSpin | yeah, I don't know how the t68 does it |
| 18:32.49 | dmalloc | bluetooth is actually pretty forward |
| 18:32.55 | dmalloc | especially when OBEX push/Get work |
| 18:34.17 | MSpin | heh |
| 18:34.27 | MSpin | I did a bunch of IrDA stuff a few years ago |
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| 18:36.01 | dmalloc | how come the Zaurus seems to disconnect after xxx minutes idle ? |
| 18:36.34 | kergoth | ? |
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| 18:38.22 | dmalloc | hrrm maybe it is my usbdnet driver |
| 18:38.44 | dmalloc | sometimes my zaurus seems to drop interface usbd0 as soon as my linux box somehow drops the usbdriver for the network |
| 18:38.56 | kergoth | odd. |
| 18:38.59 | kergoth | probably usbdnet dying |
| 18:39.03 | kergoth | try usbnet, see if its any better |
| 18:40.57 | dmalloc | ya, need to compile usb with debug and check one day |
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| 18:55.02 | dmalloc | Hah found it. |
| 18:55.22 | dmalloc | usbdnet is dropped because the driver thinks there is no more device attached as soon as it is inactive for a time |
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| 19:09.23 | NetNut404_work | hmm if I ifdown lwan0 before pulling out the CD wifi it removes the card fine, but if I don't it looses it's mind |
| 19:09.38 | NetNut404_work | er CD/CF |
| 19:10.16 | dmalloc | because you are removing a still bound device |
| 19:10.28 | dmalloc | makes the kernel pretty mad ;) |
| 19:10.34 | dmalloc | at least in normal linux |
| 19:10.43 | kenb | that's a normal pcmcia thing |
| 19:10.47 | NetNut404_work | yes, but I never used to have to manually ifdown the device |
| 19:11.00 | kenb | I didn't have too last night on rc3 |
| 19:11.18 | kenb | i just ripped it out and jammed it back in again. it paused for a second and then continued |
| 19:11.37 | NetNut404_work | hmm I only had to do that since I upgraded to rc2 from 3.0 |
| 19:11.57 | NetNut404_work | so is rc3 deemed as stable as rc2 yet? |
| 19:12.11 | kenb | too soo to tell |
| 19:12.28 | kenb | it's not even been out 24 hrs. |
| 19:12.37 | kenb | but *we* think it's more stable |
| 19:12.52 | NetNut404_work | who is *we* ? |
| 19:13.07 | kenb | use people who use/test it |
| 19:13.16 | kenb | s/use/u/ |
| 19:13.19 | kenb | bah. |
| 19:13.24 | kenb | I can't type. |
| 19:13.42 | kenb | rc3.1 |
| 19:13.45 | kenb | neat. |
| 19:13.54 | kenb | rc2 was pretty stable. |
| 19:13.57 | kenb | rc3 is more stable |
| 19:14.08 | sukoshi | final will be perfect |
| 19:14.40 | NetNut404_work | anyone here ever use znetbackup ? |
| 19:15.08 | NetNut404_work | I can't get the thinkg to work without the -full argument |
| 19:15.29 | kergoth | stupid cardctl eject hang |
| 19:15.33 | kergoth | can anyone in here reproduce it? |
| 19:15.34 | NetNut404_work | lol |
| 19:15.45 | NetNut404_work | znetbackup uses rsync |
| 19:16.01 | dmalloc | hehe sorry |
| 19:16.03 | kenb | kergoth: he's on rc2 |
| 19:16.13 | kenb | kergoth: I tested it in rc3 last night and it was okay |
| 19:16.19 | kenb | well, rc3-minimal |
| 19:16.30 | NetNut404_work | znetback totally rocks cept for the data part not working |
| 19:16.34 | kenb | I forgot my usb cable so I can't put 3.1rc3.1 on until later tonight |
| 19:16.56 | NetNut404_work | automatic rsync on insert of cf card based on ip address |
| 19:17.33 | NetNut404_work | and I modified it to work with mutiple ip's (so I can rsync at home and at work) |
| 19:18.00 | NetNut404_work | but.. I still am missing something the the data module does not work yet the full module does |
| 19:18.33 | NetNut404_work | if you use rsync you should check it out.. it's cool |
| 19:18.59 | NetNut404_work | I am sure what I am missing is simple too |
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| 19:39.03 | treke | kergoth: If I want to override the clean target for my packages, I just need to wipe the source trees and the stamps? |
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| 19:48.12 | JasonNJ | lol, I am sending my 5500 in for repair |
| 19:48.16 | JasonNJ | this should be interesting |
| 19:48.56 | bipolar | JasonNJ: what happened? |
| 19:49.11 | JasonNJ | my fucking screen is half broken |
| 19:49.20 | JasonNJ | its shimmering, the whole display is corrupted |
| 19:49.39 | JasonNJ | I hope its a warranty repair, cause Sharp USA HAS NO MORE 5500's to lend |
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| 19:49.49 | fishy | :/ |
| 19:50.02 | Neo|Work | JasonNJ: want to hear something really sad? Every time I go to use my 5000 or 5500 after using the Axim, I go to turn the light level up because the screen is so dark/dull... |
| 19:50.12 | JasonNJ | yeah |
| 19:50.18 | JasonNJ | the 5500 screen is a bit behind the times |
| 19:50.20 | Neo|Work | the Dell has a GOOD display though |
| 19:50.21 | kergoth | i love the c700's display :) |
| 19:50.23 | JasonNJ | its not the same tech |
| 19:50.32 | JasonNJ | the dell is transflective |
| 19:50.36 | fishy | kergoth, who wouldent :P |
| 19:50.37 | JasonNJ | 5500 is active matrix |
| 19:50.41 | treke | anyone want to take bets on how long til Neo defects? :) |
| 19:50.41 | Neo|Work | the A300 is even darker than the 5x00's |
| 19:50.49 | kergoth | heeh |
| 19:50.53 | fishy | neo? |
| 19:50.59 | Neo|Work | treke: Heck, I use my PocketPC on a daily basis. it doesn't suck. :P |
| 19:51.08 | Neo|Work | fishy: I am 'neo'... ;-) |
| 19:51.09 | JasonNJ | the sharp tranflective screen isnt ready |
| 19:51.15 | treke | fishy: you have two guesses |
| 19:51.18 | JasonNJ | and I doubt they will ever produce one, now that they have the CG tech |
| 19:51.21 | fishy | i see |
| 19:51.23 | treke | fishy: He's the one who's name starts with "Neo" |
| 19:51.36 | fishy | <l~Neo|Work> fishy: I am 'neo'... ;-) |
| 19:51.37 | fishy | no... |
| 19:51.38 | Neo|Work | the PocketPC is in many ways a superior PDA |
| 19:51.45 | fishy | it starts with l~neo... |
| 19:51.52 | Neo|Work | wtf? does not |
| 19:51.58 | yeiazel | fishy: your irc client is buggy |
| 19:52.00 | treke | fishy: get a non crappy irc client |
| 19:52.00 | fishy | for me it does :) |
| 19:52.05 | yeiazel | <Neo|Work> fishy: I am 'neo'... ;-) |
| 19:52.06 | fishy | heh? |
| 19:52.09 | fishy | version me |
| 19:52.11 | Neo|Work | s/PDA/PDA platform/ even |
| 19:52.20 | yeiazel | yes |
| 19:52.21 | yeiazel | crappy client |
| 19:52.22 | yeiazel | :)) |
| 19:52.25 | fishy | no |
| 19:52.26 | fishy | good |
| 19:52.29 | yeiazel | no |
| 19:52.32 | fishy | but its not the client |
| 19:52.46 | treke | fishy: if you see <l~Neo|work> it's most certainly a crappy client |
| 19:52.57 | Neo|Work | buit I use xchat just fine |
| 19:53.02 | fishy | no im behind a BNC |
| 19:53.20 | Neo|Work | BNC? Broken Network Connection? :) |
| 19:53.28 | fishy | IRC bouncer |
| 19:53.33 | fishy | read up :) |
| 19:53.41 | Neo|Work | I was being "funny" |
| 19:53.44 | fishy | ok |
| 19:53.47 | Neo|Work | just watch out so lilo doesn't notice |
| 19:53.59 | fishy | you had me worried for a sec :) |
| 19:54.38 | Neo|Work | I didn't know what it meant per se, but I pretty much guessed it was some sort of proxy |
| 19:54.51 | fishy | nope |
| 19:54.56 | fishy | there allowed :) |
| 19:55.33 | kergoth | reconfiguring packages .. |
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| 20:54.31 | kergoth | k back down to 20 open bugs |
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| 21:16.26 | Twiun | evenin' |
| 21:20.23 | Twiun | tronical: ping |
| 21:21.21 | kergoth | hey Twiun |
| 21:21.48 | Twiun | how's 'tings |
| 21:22.04 | kergoth | not bad |
| 21:22.10 | kergoth | 3.1rc3.1 is coming along well |
| 21:22.19 | fishy | :) |
| 21:22.37 | kergoth | that stupid reboot/shutdown from opie bug is fixed |
| 21:22.56 | kergoth | not many outstanding bugs, other than a few opie ones |
| 21:23.20 | fishy | ohh kergoth, I know the cache is disabled on c700... but will it be disabled on sl5600? |
| 21:23.26 | kergoth | >Does cardctl eject hang from the prompt? |
| 21:23.26 | kergoth | Only when I don't ifdown wlan0 first. If wlan0 is up, cardctl |
| 21:23.26 | kergoth | eventually returns an ioctl device busy error and exits. |
| 21:23.28 | kergoth | aha! |
| 21:23.45 | kergoth | so cardctl eject isnt properly shutting everything down |
| 21:23.51 | kergoth | it should call network stop, which calls ifdown |
| 21:24.21 | dmalloc | or maybe unbind the device |
| 21:24.37 | kergoth | 'unbind'? |
| 21:25.01 | fishy | :/ |
| 21:25.13 | dmalloc | yes. tell the kernel (like ifconfig does) thata device is no longer bound |
| 21:26.07 | kergoth | no, pcmcia is supposed to call ifdown in the network script |
| 21:26.11 | kergoth | which in turn calls ifconfig down |
| 21:26.19 | kergoth | theres no need to do it explicitly |
| 21:26.24 | dmalloc | ah yes sorry forgot that this is a pcmcia issue |
| 21:26.34 | dmalloc | which is a bit borked in 2.4 imho |
| 21:26.38 | kergoth | uh |
| 21:26.40 | kergoth | pcmcia is borked everywhere |
| 21:26.42 | kergoth | in every way |
| 21:26.45 | dmalloc | hehe |
| 21:26.48 | icefox | ibot seen mandrake |
| 21:26.48 | | mandrake is currently on #zaurus |
| 21:26.48 | kergoth | in linux anyway |
| 21:26.52 | kergoth | pcmcia-cs is absolute crap |
| 21:27.03 | kergoth | the day that it uses hotplug, i'll be a very happy camper |
| 21:27.23 | dmalloc | *nod nod* |
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| 21:31.47 | sukoshi | kergoth: how about OZ 3.1rc3.1 on C700 |
| 21:32.16 | kergoth | sukoshi: I want to fix a couple critical bugs, that wont take long to fix, first |
| 21:32.20 | kergoth | sukoshi: then i'll hack on that some more |
| 21:32.40 | sukoshi | critical bugs? due to hardware difference? |
| 21:32.53 | sukoshi | oz 3.1rc3.1 has which kernel version? |
| 21:34.01 | sukoshi | what is OZ 3.1rc3.1 kernel's version |
| 21:34.08 | sukoshi | (better than last sentence) |
| 21:34.20 | kergoth | no, ii'm fixing bugs in the collie image |
| 21:34.34 | sukoshi | cardctl for example? |
| 21:34.39 | TMM1 | hey kergoth |
| 21:34.40 | kergoth | yes |
| 21:34.40 | TMM1 | wassup |
| 21:34.48 | TMM1 | ooh, rc3 released |
| 21:34.49 | TMM1 | nice job |
| 21:34.50 | kergoth | the cardctl eject hang you'll likely see on a c700 as well, its a user space distribution issue |
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| 21:35.25 | sukoshi | ok |
| 21:35.39 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: install it! |
| 21:35.40 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: :) |
| 21:35.44 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:35.45 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm about to |
| 21:36.42 | kergoth | I need someone on irc who can reproduce the cardctl eject hang |
| 21:36.48 | kergoth | so i can walk them through debugging |
| 21:36.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:38.24 | TheMasterMind1 | heh ok |
| 21:39.28 | TheMasterMind1 | hah |
| 21:39.32 | TheMasterMind1 | bofh.r2 |
| 21:40.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:40.22 | kergoth | i couldnt think of a name |
| 21:40.29 | kergoth | so it was bofh |
| 21:40.34 | kergoth | then i did a minor release |
| 21:40.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:42.24 | TheMasterMind1 | its downloading |
| 21:42.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i guess i should find my Z's battery.. |
| 21:42.54 | kergoth | that helps |
| 21:43.09 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, usually |
| 21:44.59 | TheMasterMind1 | i have the oppurtunity to go to MIT this summer, but they'll probably make me do windows/xbox/asp programming... |
| 21:45.05 | TheMasterMind1 | trying to decide if its worth it |
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| 21:47.18 | TheMasterMind1 | damn microsoft.. just because they provide funding doesn't mean their products should be used |
| 21:47.21 | JasonNJ | sent my 5500 out |
| 21:47.25 | JasonNJ | priority mail |
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| 21:47.31 | noda | Moo! |
| 21:47.34 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: sup |
| 21:47.36 | TheMasterMind1 | JasonNJ: out to where |
| 21:47.37 | JasonNJ | now i aint got nuthin to run OZ on |
| 21:47.41 | dmalloc | TheMasterMind1 xbox is neat ;) |
| 21:47.44 | noda | kergoth: Heh, looks like it'd be clever if I'd FIX the freakin' changelog browser, eh? :P |
| 21:47.44 | JasonNJ | sharp repairs |
| 21:47.45 | kergoth | hey noda |
| 21:47.50 | kergoth | noda: thatd be nice, yeah |
| 21:47.54 | JasonNJ | I got a 5600, but kergoth doesnt have a OE for it yet |
| 21:47.54 | kergoth | noda: noticed that last night |
| 21:47.58 | dmalloc | <-- was short of being hired by a gaming company |
| 21:47.59 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: tell me, is it worth it to go to MIT for the summer if they make me do windows/directx/xbox/asp programming? |
| 21:48.01 | noda | kergoth: Maybe tonight, seems rather urgent. I knew it was broken but was too lazy |
| 21:48.09 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Um. Do you get in in the fall? |
| 21:48.11 | kergoth | now that rc3 is released, i'll work on that jason |
| 21:48.27 | dmalloc | TheMasterMind1 and MIT has a very good reputation. IN this new IT world you'll be well off with it |
| 21:48.39 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: they're working on a project over the summer that i've been invited to work on |
| 21:48.52 | noda | Well. Will you get in with a nice scholarship when you go to uni? |
| 21:49.02 | TheMasterMind1 | prolly not |
| 21:49.02 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 21:49.03 | noda | If not, seems rather a waste of time unless you're paid well (which my guess is you're not). |
| 21:49.09 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm flunking out of school |
| 21:49.15 | TheMasterMind1 | =P |
| 21:49.16 | noda | Heh |
| 21:49.28 | noda | Then again, putting "MIT" anywhere on your resume is nice :) |
| 21:49.34 | TheMasterMind1 | true |
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| 21:49.45 | TheMasterMind1 | and they're gonna pay for everything too |
| 21:49.46 | JasonNJ | whoops. |
| 21:49.48 | noda | Speaking of which, I got a letter from Farleigh Dickenson University saying I should apply. Anybody ever hear of them? |
| 21:49.57 | noda | TheMasterMind1: Well, Boston is nice as far as American cities go :) |
| 21:50.06 | JasonNJ | its a good school, noda |
| 21:50.08 | JasonNJ | its in jersey. |
| 21:50.18 | TheMasterMind1 | sounds like a load of fun, its just i'll probably end up doing stupid asp shit because microsoft is funding the project |
| 21:50.23 | noda | JasonNJ: Heh, won't be going but cool :) |
| 21:50.31 | noda | TheMasterMind1: ack |
| 21:50.53 | JasonNJ | noda: you want to stay close to home? |
| 21:50.56 | TheMasterMind1 | wow, i actually have a working zaurus again |
| 21:51.39 | noda | JasonNJ: Well, I like my country. If I were to go to the States I'd consider MIT... but really, it'd take a hell of a lot to drag me outa here :) |
| 21:52.03 | JasonNJ | noda: where do you live/ |
| 21:52.18 | noda | JasonNJ: Montreal. I'm considering Waterloo school in Ontario or a couple of schools here. |
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| 21:53.19 | noda | JasonNJ: Honestly, the thought of living in a country where the people believe it's their God-proclaimed obligation to kill a certain dictator (and don't seem to see the unspoken advantage of owning a great supply of oil) just freaks me out... |
| 21:53.51 | noda | JasonNJ: No offense. I say this because I know the people on here think a lot more than the average Joe :) |
| 21:53.53 | Twiun | ibot: seen tronical |
| 21:53.54 | | tronical is currently on #openembedded (12d 6h 4m 12s). Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 1d 12h 32m 33s |
| 21:54.15 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: heh |
| 21:54.19 | noda | ...and I'm not saying war is wrong. I'm saying I think it's wrong and people who think it's right should be less sure of themselves :) |
| 21:54.20 | TheMasterMind1 | oh crap |
| 21:54.22 | TheMasterMind1 | i don't have a stylus |
| 21:54.26 | noda | lol |
| 21:54.26 | TheMasterMind1 | i forgot about that |
| 21:54.28 | TheMasterMind1 | damn.. |
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| 21:54.44 | TheMasterMind1 | and i have this nasty scratch type thing on my screen |
| 21:54.49 | TheMasterMind1 | its like under the screen |
| 21:54.49 | TheMasterMind1 | grr |
| 21:55.15 | noda | kergoth: 3.1rc3 has the buzzer-speaker patch? :) |
| 21:55.19 | TheMasterMind1 | oooh |
| 21:55.21 | TheMasterMind1 | nice icos |
| 21:55.22 | TheMasterMind1 | icons |
| 21:55.48 | kergoth | noda: yes. |
| 21:55.58 | noda | Actually, I can. bye :) |
| 21:57.14 | TheMasterMind1 | alright |
| 21:57.17 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: what do you need me to do |
| 21:57.24 | Bowser | Hi ppl |
| 21:57.25 | kergoth | fuck around with wireless |
| 21:57.31 | kergoth | see if you can get it to hang trying to eject |
| 21:57.48 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 21:58.51 | kergoth | down to 19 bugs |
| 22:01.29 | TheMasterMind1 | down from how many |
| 22:02.36 | kergoth | too many :) |
| 22:02.46 | kergoth | kenb closed like 20something bugs last night |
| 22:02.49 | kergoth | most were invalid |
| 22:02.52 | kergoth | some were fixed |
| 22:02.53 | kergoth | etc |
| 22:03.53 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 22:08.35 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: you like our nice silent bootup? |
| 22:08.36 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 22:08.39 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 22:08.40 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 22:08.57 | kergoth | need to find a way to log the boot messages even when /dev/console is disabled |
| 22:09.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:09.11 | chouimat | kergoth: hi |
| 22:09.42 | TheMasterMind1 | whoa |
| 22:09.43 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 22:09.46 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm online |
| 22:09.47 | TheMasterMind1 | on my Z |
| 22:09.55 | TheMasterMind1 | and my wireless network isn't up |
| 22:09.57 | TheMasterMind1 | speedstream.. |
| 22:09.58 | TheMasterMind1 | sweet! |
| 22:10.02 | TheMasterMind1 | 11mbit too |
| 22:10.03 | TheMasterMind1 | haha |
| 22:10.10 | TheMasterMind1 | wonderful neighbors |
| 22:10.18 | Twiun | lol |
| 22:10.19 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:10.27 | TheMasterMind1 | there's popping up all over the neighborhood |
| 22:10.31 | TheMasterMind1 | a year ago i was the only one |
| 22:10.52 | TheMasterMind1 | now i can access others' without even using a cantenna |
| 22:12.36 | JasonNJ | I think my next door neighbor is using my WLAN |
| 22:13.10 | JasonNJ | I havent changed the essid on my router |
| 22:13.16 | JasonNJ | or use encryption |
| 22:13.20 | JasonNJ | I probably should |
| 22:18.14 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm |
| 22:18.18 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: how do i cTRL+c in konsole |
| 22:26.45 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: you install opie-keytabs. dont you read the OZ mailing lists? |
| 22:31.43 | TheMasterMind1 | no |
| 22:31.48 | TheMasterMind1 | they come to my email |
| 22:31.51 | TheMasterMind1 | but i don't read em |
| 22:31.54 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 22:32.15 | TheMasterMind1 | this sucks, the reception with the wifi is crap |
| 22:32.16 | TheMasterMind1 | can't use it |
| 22:35.11 | dmalloc | my neatgear does well |
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| 22:36.18 | kergoth | I think he means his reception of the neighbors wifi is crap |
| 22:36.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:37.23 | TMM1 | heh yea |
| 22:37.30 | TMM1 | and i put in my wifi card into my server |
| 22:37.32 | TMM1 | and it locked up |
| 22:37.33 | TMM1 | pos |
| 22:37.48 | chouimat | ok those the following answer is valid for the question: What are the sociological consequence of the Internet? , answer: The internet had made access to pornography easier than ever |
| 22:37.54 | TMM1 | and network settings isn't setting the card to ad-hoc |
| 22:37.55 | TMM1 | hmmf |
| 22:38.24 | kergoth | yeah, noidd was having trouble setting up adhoc |
| 22:38.26 | kergoth | in #zaurus |
| 22:38.36 | kergoth | i know nothing of adhoc, so .. |
| 22:38.41 | TMM1 | network settings isn't doing anything |
| 22:38.49 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:38.52 | TMM1 | the gui |
| 22:39.02 | kergoth | ok, is it writing wireless.opts? |
| 22:39.14 | TMM1 | trying to check.. |
| 22:39.14 | kergoth | and just not restarting pccmci |
| 22:39.21 | TMM1 | eject locked up |
| 22:39.21 | TMM1 | heh |
| 22:39.25 | kergoth | hey! |
| 22:39.28 | kergoth | you reproduced it |
| 22:39.30 | kergoth | :D |
| 22:39.40 | kergoth | now lets fix it |
| 22:39.44 | kergoth | strace cardctl eject |
| 22:39.48 | kergoth | heheh |
| 22:40.01 | TMM1 | how do i reboot this thing |
| 22:40.05 | TMM1 | the sysrq combo |
| 22:42.11 | _Psycho | heya |
| 22:42.42 | _Psycho | hey ker anything new for my thingie ;) ? |
| 22:45.13 | kergoth | TMM1: home+b |
| 22:45.15 | kergoth | no |
| 22:45.20 | TMM1 | ah, b |
| 22:45.23 | TMM1 | thats right |
| 22:45.25 | TMM1 | too late now |
| 22:45.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:45.28 | TMM1 | but i'll remember for next time |
| 22:45.33 | kergoth | doesnt matter, it wont wipe your ramdisk on full reset |
| 22:45.36 | kergoth | no worries |
| 22:45.43 | kergoth | full reset doesnt do much to your system now |
| 22:45.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:45.59 | TMM1 | yea, its writing wireless.opts fine |
| 22:47.04 | kergoth | okay, its fix the toolchain builds time |
| 22:47.13 | kergoth | then I'm going to finish the 5600 and c700 support |
| 22:47.43 | TMM1 | darn, dhcp isn't working |
| 22:48.24 | kergoth | yeah, noidd was doing adhoc w/ dhcp and it didnt work |
| 22:48.27 | kergoth | it started udhcpc though |
| 22:49.15 | _Psycho | woo -p |
| 22:49.20 | TMM1 | duno if its the Z |
| 22:49.21 | TMM1 | or my server |
| 22:49.22 | kergoth | _Psycho: I think I may rewrite the 5600 and c700 kernel keyboard drivers |
| 22:49.30 | kergoth | _Psycho: as it may be easier than hardcoding the mapping in qt |
| 22:49.36 | kergoth | heheh |
| 22:50.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:50.13 | kergoth | i love it when you print an error |
| 22:50.17 | kergoth | and the error is Success |
| 22:50.23 | TMM1 | wow |
| 22:50.26 | TMM1 | thats a very interesting' error |
| 22:50.29 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 22:58.20 | TheMasterMind1 | hmm, yea. i dunno why but my server is just broke |
| 22:58.37 | TheMasterMind1 | it detects the wifi card and everything but it doesn't transmit or receive packets |
| 22:58.42 | TheMasterMind1 | used to work.. suddenly died |
| 22:58.50 | kergoth | odd |
| 22:58.57 | TheMasterMind1 | very |
| 22:59.01 | TheMasterMind1 | i ugpraded kernel too |
| 22:59.03 | kergoth | sure its the server and not the Z? |
| 22:59.06 | TheMasterMind1 | yea |
| 22:59.10 | TheMasterMind1 | cuz it doesn't work with laptop either |
| 22:59.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:59.15 | kergoth | k, just checking |
| 22:59.24 | TheMasterMind1 | i should patched with we16.. |
| 22:59.31 | TheMasterMind1 | forgot about that |
| 23:03.48 | TheMasterMind1 | lkjsdkfjsd |
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| 23:04.14 | kergoth | heh |
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| 23:04.21 | kergoth | found a bug in getsource |
| 23:05.12 | TheMasterMind1 | where |
| 23:05.28 | kergoth | okay, if the source stamp is gone |
| 23:05.32 | kergoth | it should reobtain sources right? |
| 23:06.00 | dep | kergoth: rc3 works nicely...thanks for all the work |
| 23:06.02 | kergoth | well, if a package has say 5 source items, including patches |
| 23:06.09 | kergoth | and the first file is in sources/, but the others arent.. |
| 23:06.26 | kergoth | getsource immediately exits thinking nothing needs to be done |
| 23:06.34 | kergoth | so it'll never get the rest of the sources unless you remove them all |
| 23:06.37 | kergoth | aka make mrproper that package |
| 23:06.45 | TheMasterMind1 | ah |
| 23:06.50 | TheMasterMind1 | that explains somestuff |
| 23:06.56 | TheMasterMind1 | i always had issues with sources |
| 23:07.14 | kergoth | yeah, that was the biggie |
| 23:08.24 | TheMasterMind1 | great |
| 23:08.29 | TheMasterMind1 | i lost my pencil |
| 23:08.34 | TheMasterMind1 | that i was using as a stylus |
| 23:08.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:08.51 | TheMasterMind1 | got wifi working though |
| 23:08.53 | TheMasterMind1 | via laptop |
| 23:08.59 | kergoth | ah cool |
| 23:09.06 | kergoth | strace cardctl eject when it hangs! |
| 23:09.07 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:09.30 | kergoth | or put some echos in /etc/pcmcia/network, see if cardctl eject ends up calling it to stop the network the way it should |
| 23:09.38 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
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| 23:13.26 | TheMasterMind1 | not hanging anymore.. |
| 23:13.26 | TheMasterMind1 | damn |
| 23:14.03 | kergoth | shit |
| 23:14.07 | kergoth | make it fail to associate again |
| 23:14.19 | kergoth | maybe it fails when the card cant associate |
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| 23:14.51 | ljp_work | friday evening, not dressed up and no where to do |
| 23:15.12 | kergoth | heheh |
| 23:16.35 | chouimat | ljp_work: same here |
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| 23:18.38 | ljp_work | maybe I'll go home and spend time with my cat |
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| 23:21.31 | dep | kergoth: for rc3...the konqueror package is failing to install. |
| 23:21.35 | TheMasterMind1 | wtf |
| 23:21.44 | TheMasterMind1 | i think these wifi cards are just fucked up |
| 23:22.00 | kergoth | dep: yeah, i know |
| 23:22.05 | dmalloc | TheMasterMind1: netgear wroks nicely ;) |
| 23:22.18 | dep | ok, didn't see it on the bug list |
| 23:23.10 | kergoth | feel free to add it |
| 23:26.33 | kergoth | good idea |
| 23:27.18 | ljp_work | you do too much tech support.. you have become jaded :) |
| 23:28.17 | TheMasterMind1 | unbelieveable |
| 23:28.22 | TheMasterMind1 | i place Z on right side of laptop |
| 23:28.23 | TheMasterMind1 | doesn't work |
| 23:28.28 | TheMasterMind1 | i place on left side, next to wifi |
| 23:28.29 | TheMasterMind1 | works |
| 23:28.36 | kergoth | hah |
| 23:29.33 | ljp_work | too much magentic vortex on that one side |
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| 23:33.13 | TheMasterMind1 | ok nm, it stopped working again |
| 23:33.15 | TheMasterMind1 | i give up |
| 23:33.24 | kergoth | did you get it hanging again? |
| 23:33.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:33.29 | kergoth | need to isolate that stupid fucking bug |
| 23:33.33 | kergoth | we've had it since like 3.l0 |
| 23:34.17 | TheMasterMind1 | lemme see if it happens with i associate with the neighbors |
| 23:34.21 | kergoth | k |
| 23:36.32 | chouimat | ok I definitly need to find a new girlfriend soon the provincial gorvernment will pay 33% of student loan if I have a child in the next 3 years |
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| 23:41.49 | TheMasterMind1 | HAH |
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| 23:45.54 | TheMasterMind1 | refuses to hang |
| 23:45.56 | TheMasterMind1 | stupid thing |
| 23:46.25 | kergoth | grr! |
| 23:46.29 | kergoth | okay, some guy in #opie has it happening |
| 23:46.33 | kergoth | and he's going to let me ssh into his Z |
| 23:46.36 | chouimat | last week Paul decalred a war on poverty ... yesterday he throwed a grenade to a poor |
| 23:46.39 | kergoth | so maybe we can finally nail this shit |
| 23:46.45 | kergoth | this is the bug from hell |
| 23:46.55 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:46.58 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 23:50.40 | chouimat | kergoth: hmmm bofh.r2? |
| 23:50.50 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:51.06 | treke | chouimat: hehe |
| 23:51.42 | victorvdl | kergoth: Is there a spare 2.4.19 kernel lying around? |
| 23:52.10 | TheMasterMind1 | victorvdl: ..? |
| 23:52.11 | chouimat | kergoth: I have the name for the next release (horny chicks) :) |
| 23:52.36 | victorvdl | TheMasterMind1: I just offered to help test 2.4.19. |
| 23:53.00 | TheMasterMind1 | i see |
| 23:53.29 | TheMasterMind1 | kergoth: did you try out that ts fix? |
| 23:54.36 | kergoth | no, i havent |
| 23:56.28 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
