| 00:02.43 | kergoth | kismet doesnt work with the version of hostap in rc2/unstable |
| 00:02.53 | kergoth | or rather, monitor mode doesnt work, which makes kismet rather useless |
| 00:03.05 | godsmoke | yeah, so, I forget, what do I do to change that? |
| 00:03.06 | TheMasterMind1 | sup kergoth |
| 00:03.08 | godsmoke | you told me |
| 00:03.12 | godsmoke | but I had forgotten |
| 00:04.10 | kergoth | i told at least 3 people on the lists. |
| 00:04.12 | kergoth | hit the archives |
| 00:04.20 | kergoth | just uninstall hostap-modules, and backrev both kernel-modules and pcmcia-cs |
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| 00:07.38 | [George] | hi ljp |
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| 00:10.07 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: you see noda's menus on http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/oz/content/news? pretty spiffy. css, not javascript |
| 00:11.35 | TheMasterMind1 | heh cool |
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| 00:28.25 | ljp | georgie |
| 00:28.45 | [George] | ljp: yes? |
| 00:28.58 | ljp | bedtime? ;) |
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| 00:30.46 | noda | Moo! |
| 00:36.10 | TheMasterMind1 | sup noda |
| 00:36.26 | noda | Rewriting the headers and footers to use DIVs instead of tables :) |
| 00:36.31 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:36.40 | noda | The site is gonna be REALLY cool. Well, optionally. |
| 00:37.32 | noda | I'm totally breaking it, then I'll fix it with the old stylesheet, write up my new one, then commit the whole thing in one big she-bang, at the same time as the new Changelog and FAQ filtering :) |
| 00:38.46 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 00:38.46 | TheMasterMind1 | cool |
| 00:38.59 | noda | Right now it's horribly broken, but soon I'll be able to show you the kickass menus :) |
| 00:39.33 | noda | (though since Mozilla trunk has a rendering bug and no other browsers come close to supporting it, I guess it's just a conceptual thing anyway :P |
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| 01:18.00 | noda | Whee! This positioning is going great so far :) -- http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/oz/ :) |
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| 03:03.02 | SHEENmaster | if anyone cares I'm making a feed for OZ-compatible software that for one reason or another isn't in the OZ feeds. |
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| 03:23.46 | ljp | such as? |
| 03:25.44 | prpplague | ljp: pr0n_server-1.0.2.tar.gz |
| 03:30.32 | SHEENmaster | prpplague: lol |
| 03:30.58 | SHEENmaster | ljp: I have nethack and a few other things loaded now. |
| 03:31.08 | SHEENmaster | ljp: all tested on my Z installed to an SD card. |
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| 03:32.25 | SHEENmaster | ljp: I'll have Twiun[away]'s port of the Wonka JVM as soon as he gives me that "new" version. |
| 04:32.23 | gaurdian | anyone running qtmail on there Z with OZ ? |
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| 05:39.25 | JasonNJ | sup. |
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| 14:25.34 | ljp_ | well, well, well |
| 14:26.02 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 14:26.11 | ljp_ | should I go into work... or not... hmmmmm |
| 14:27.34 | tronical | ljp_: any news on the job situation? |
| 14:28.07 | ljp_ | none.. I keep applying to places.. an intervoew every few weeks. |
| 14:28.31 | ljp_ | but, I did just get helix alsa to work, without underruns! :D |
| 14:28.49 | tronical | :) |
| 14:29.07 | ljp_ | still one or two small glitches, but it working |
| 14:29.33 | schurig | ljp_: we're looking for an embedded developer, but we're based in (ahem, near) Frankfurt, Germany |
| 14:29.46 | ljp_ | just nned to wait for the relnetworks guys to make helix support multichannel 24/96! :D |
| 14:29.50 | mickeyl | ljp: come to frankfurt, it's a nice town! /me lives there |
| 14:42.56 | effy | why would you cough when you say "Frankfurt"? haha |
| 14:43.55 | ljp_ | cause I'm in US |
| 14:45.40 | effy | ok |
| 14:45.41 | effy | hehe |
| 14:46.10 | treke|home | mornin |
| 14:50.08 | mickeyl | hi treke. watsu? |
| 14:50.14 | mickeyl | what's up? even |
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| 14:52.48 | treke|home | just dreading another monday |
| 14:53.39 | mickeyl | hehe... just another manic monday |
| 14:57.03 | treke|home | ~lart ljp_ |
| 14:57.32 | ljp_ | double ouch |
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| 14:58.34 | treke|home | hmmm. at least there is some good news. I have leftover biscuits from breakfast saturday |
| 14:59.34 | ljp_ | hwehee |
| 14:59.39 | ljp_ | weee! |
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| 15:17.33 | zecke | kergoth`bbl: ping |
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| 15:19.58 | prpplague | andersee: gosh, they dragged you into here too? |
| 15:20.49 | ljp_ | hehe |
| 15:22.30 | andersee | prpplague: yeah, I know |
| 15:24.56 | pb_ | prpplague: everyone who is anyone is here. |
| 15:25.13 | chouimat|nap | huh? |
| 15:25.22 | ljp_ | does that mean I'm somebody!!?! |
| 15:25.39 | chouimat|nap | ljp_: nope |
| 15:25.55 | ljp_ | awwww |
| 15:25.58 | ljp_ | shucks |
| 15:26.12 | ljp_ | but I'm in the phone book |
| 15:26.13 | prpplague | ljp_: don't feel bad, neither am i |
| 15:26.20 | ljp_ | :) |
| 15:27.14 | chouimat|nap | ]after leaving your cat alone 3 days don't expect to have a minute free |
| 15:29.07 | prpplague | ljp_: i think we fall into the wlg group |
| 15:29.15 | prpplague | ljp_: wannabie linux guru |
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| 15:57.23 | mickeyl | mickeyl@gandalf:/usr/local/projects/openzaurus$ make image |
| 15:57.23 | mickeyl | make -C output image |
| 15:57.23 | mickeyl | make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/projects/openzaurus/output' |
| 15:57.23 | mickeyl | get SCCS/s.config.in |
| 15:57.23 | mickeyl | make[1]: get: Kommando nicht gefunden |
| 15:57.24 | mickeyl | make[1]: *** [config.in] Fehler 127 |
| 15:57.26 | mickeyl | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/projects/openzaurus/output' |
| 15:57.28 | mickeyl | make: *** [image] Fehler 2 |
| 15:57.41 | mickeyl | what's up? everything is bk -r co -q. and this is right after a make |
| 15:57.46 | mickeyl | ideas? |
| 15:58.00 | mickeyl | Kommando nicht gefunden is command not found, btw. |
| 15:58.04 | schurig | mickeyl: "get" is part of Bitkeeper |
| 15:58.21 | schurig | mickeyl: so someone did not install BK correctly. |
| 15:58.43 | mickeyl | schurig: hmm... this installation has worked for lots of builds... |
| 15:59.07 | schurig | and the other problem: maybe someone did delete the whole output directory, but some files in it are bk files (e.g. there must be a output/SCCS directory) |
| 15:59.45 | schurig | when you deleted this directory, then bk -r co -q would not get anything out of it. Make would miss the file and try to "get" it automatically, which won't work. |
| 16:00.02 | mickeyl | hmm... aha... checking.. |
| 16:00.53 | mickeyl | yep |
| 16:01.08 | mickeyl | new .bashrc installation, PATH was not right |
| 16:01.10 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 16:01.26 | schurig | my pleasure |
| 16:02.19 | mickeyl | once again, fourth attempt to get a working pre-rc3 image... now going home and flashing... |
| 16:45.18 | mickeyl | re |
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| 17:12.20 | chouimat | re |
| 17:15.21 | mickeyl | where does /usr/share/zoneinfo belongs to? |
| 17:15.30 | mickeyl | which package even |
| 17:16.11 | treke | timezones? |
| 17:16.28 | mickeyl | hmm.... could be ntpdate... |
| 17:16.35 | mickeyl | damn... that's 1.5M |
| 17:16.47 | mickeyl | we must split this stuff up |
| 17:17.42 | mickeyl | ah glibc |
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| 17:23.53 | andersee | someone should rebuild oz vs uclibc. Then /usr/share/zoneinfo would disappear, replaced with /etc/TZ which is just a few bytes. |
| 17:25.17 | mickeyl | andersee: zoneinfo is from glibc, not libc |
| 17:25.21 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 17:25.24 | mickeyl | glib |
| 17:25.25 | mickeyl | even |
| 17:25.27 | mickeyl | without C |
| 17:25.27 | mickeyl | :) |
| 17:25.47 | mickeyl | however, you're right. uclibc would be interesting... |
| 17:27.34 | andersee | mickeyl: trust me I know all about what is from glibc and from uclibc... |
| 17:27.57 | chouimat | andersee: didn't have time to do it yet |
| 17:28.13 | andersee | mickeyl: the point is, by switching to uClibc, the need for /etc/zoneinfo would disappear |
| 17:28.22 | mickeyl | andersee: so, what hinders uclibc to be the base for OZ/OE then? |
| 17:28.32 | andersee | mickeyl: dunno |
| 17:28.45 | mickeyl | hmm... if it would be that easy, kergoth had been done it for ages. |
| 17:28.52 | andersee | mickeyl: Mostly just that nobody has tried it yet |
| 17:29.07 | mickeyl | andersee: hmm... indeed - could be. |
| 17:29.16 | andersee | mickeyl: well, uClibc has been getting a lot better of late... |
| 17:31.42 | chouimat | andersee: did we need to recompile existing apps? |
| 17:31.43 | mickeyl | andersee: while you're here, please elaborate on this. is uclibc a rewrite or a lean-and-mean-libc or what ? |
| 17:33.23 | andersee | mickeyl: I recommend http://uclibc.org/FAQ.html |
| 17:33.48 | andersee | chouimat: all apps need to be recompiled vs uClibc. glibc and uclibc are not binary compatible. |
| 17:34.52 | mickeyl | andersee: sounds too god. |
| 17:35.44 | andersee | mickeyl: the short answer is, it is a seperate codebase. We have used bits and pieced of glibc, but lots of things are totally and completely different. |
| 17:36.21 | mickeyl | andersee: ah i see. atm, there's too much important work going on for OZ and no time for experiments, but after the 3.1 release we will surely look into this. imagine OZ 4 with uclibc and kernel 2.4.19... mmh :-D |
| 17:36.30 | andersee | mickeyl: But since we use mostly stock glibc header files, pretty much anything that compiles with glibc compiles with uClibc |
| 17:42.16 | mickeyl | andersee: given the current structure of our buildroot, integrating uclibc as an alternative to glibc would be pretty easy.... testing compatiblity is another thing though. |
| 17:43.24 | andersee | mickeyl: the oz buildroot is a derivitive of the tuxscreen buildroot, which uses uClibc. :) |
| 17:44.20 | andersee | mickeyl: As for testing... It would certainly be best, at least initially, as a fork/branch rather than for mainline use |
| 17:56.38 | kergoth`bbl | mickeyl: you shoudlve seen it before I trimmed it down.. originally our timezone files were 6 megs :) |
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| 18:00.31 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 18:01.47 | kergoth | yo |
| 18:01.49 | kergoth | whats goin on |
| 18:02.02 | chouimat | kergoth: don't know get back this morning |
| 18:02.26 | kergoth | andersee: adding a uclibc build to our system would be a breeze, just a matter of copying and pasting some bits out of the uclibc/tuxscreen buildroot into ours.. just havent had time |
| 18:05.46 | kergoth | god i love debian |
| 18:06.03 | mickeyl | hiho kergoth! |
| 18:06.18 | tronical | apt-src rules :) |
| 18:06.25 | kergoth | yup |
| 18:06.35 | kergoth | so does apt-build, gotta love automatic use of optimizations for your proc when building |
| 18:07.34 | kergoth | now if only it was convenient to use apt-build to rebuild every app in teh system with said optimizations.. |
| 18:07.37 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:08.48 | mickeyl | kergoth: make image needs a "out of space" warning - i installed too many packages and so were left with "no space on device" after flashing |
| 18:09.01 | mickeyl | 0 bytes free |
| 18:09.51 | kergoth | mickeyl: well, ipkg has space checks, but it checks the current drive.. it'd be cool if you could pass a "offline root size limit" to ipkg when using offline_root |
| 18:09.54 | kergoth | mickeyl: :) |
| 18:09.58 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: *ahem* |
| 18:09.59 | mickeyl | hehe, yeah. |
| 18:13.05 | TheMasterMind1 | eh? |
| 18:13.12 | TheMasterMind1 | oh |
| 18:13.12 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 18:26.41 | mickeyl | !seen pnis |
| 18:26.47 | mickeyl | ibot: seen pnis |
| 18:26.47 | | pnis <~pnis@caracas-1021.adsl.interware.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 18d 18h 50m 42s ago, saying: 'bye kergoth'. |
| 18:28.11 | kergoth | 18 days? woa |
| 18:28.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:28.23 | kergoth | whatd'd he get a life or something? |
| 18:28.26 | kergoth | ?) |
| 18:28.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:28.30 | TheMasterMind1 | heheh |
| 18:28.39 | mickeyl | hehe .. we need to fix some things for the buzzer |
| 18:29.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:29.11 | mickeyl | atm, its hardly usable because of the missing rate/stereo conversion |
| 18:29.13 | kergoth | nothings going to happen on that front until sound handling doesnt suck in opie. |
| 18:29.20 | kergoth | the conversion belongs in user space. |
| 18:29.25 | kergoth | and _will not_ go into his driver |
| 18:32.02 | mickeyl | right. belongs to user space. some defaults in /dev should be adapted however. |
| 18:32.27 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:32.39 | kergoth | the driver accepts the format the hardware handles. |
| 18:32.39 | kergoth | thats it. |
| 18:32.44 | kergoth | no translation in driver |
| 18:33.00 | mickeyl | yep, that's not what i meant. i meant /dev/dsp as a softlink to /dev/dsp0 or /dev/dsp1 |
| 18:33.05 | kergoth | opie needs some generic conversion routines, or needs to use a sane audio library and/or audio server |
| 18:33.32 | kergoth | dsp in general is always the first audio device |
| 18:33.39 | kergoth | in fact, on a lot of machines there _is no_ 'dsp0' |
| 18:33.58 | kergoth | opie needs sane handling for multiple audio devices |
| 18:34.05 | kergoth | and a means of selecting which one you want to use as primary |
| 18:34.14 | kergoth | rather than relying on symlinks and shit |
| 18:34.57 | mickeyl | ok, using /dev/dsp directly will be forbidden then anyway. |
| 18:35.04 | mickeyl | or rather deprecated :9 |
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| 18:44.03 | KingSoopa | hi guys |
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| 18:58.05 | noda | Moo! |
| 18:58.46 | KingSoopa | what windowing system does openembedded/OZ run? |
| 18:58.52 | noda | OPIE |
| 18:58.58 | noda | (qpe) |
| 18:59.04 | noda | http://opie.handhelds.org/ |
| 18:59.30 | zecke | hi kergoth |
| 19:00.06 | chouimat | hi zecke, noda |
| 19:00.14 | noda | chouimat: moo |
| 19:00.22 | noda | chouimat: http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/oz/ -- does it work? :) |
| 19:00.29 | noda | (click on Refresh and then let me know) |
| 19:00.53 | TheMasterMind1 | wow |
| 19:00.55 | TheMasterMind1 | that looks awful |
| 19:01.01 | noda | Um. Refresh? |
| 19:01.13 | TheMasterMind1 | still looks awful |
| 19:01.17 | chouimat | work |
| 19:01.20 | noda | Besides the "admin login" box, it's identical to the other, isn't it? |
| 19:01.22 | noda | Oh, shit, not quite :) |
| 19:01.49 | noda | I did do lots of actual *measurements* to make sure font sizes, etc, were the same. |
| 19:01.58 | noda | But I obviously missed that space in the middle :P |
| 19:02.01 | chouimat | ~lart noda |
| 19:02.42 | noda | There. |
| 19:03.01 | chouimat | damn didn't get enough sleep last night .... |
| 19:03.33 | noda | TheMasterMind1: How about now? |
| 19:04.03 | TheMasterMind1 | the two pictures are vertically misaligned |
| 19:04.19 | noda | There's only one picture... |
| 19:04.21 | TheMasterMind1 | and the news text is centered instead of being under the banner thing |
| 19:04.25 | TheMasterMind1 | sf and pingi |
| 19:04.44 | noda | Oh, right. |
| 19:04.57 | noda | The text isn't centered, just like it wasn't before.... I'll move it over a bit though. |
| 19:05.55 | noda | There, text is in the same place now |
| 19:06.14 | noda | As for pingi being in a different place... I really can't see that. |
| 19:07.36 | noda | For me, pingi is in the exact same location... |
| 19:08.32 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: |
| 19:08.39 | noda | I've just copy/pasted the old pingi onto the new one (using the corner of the box to keep them in relatively the same position) and then undone. Not off by a single pixel... |
| 19:08.40 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: www.themastermind1.net/oz.png |
| 19:09.11 | TheMasterMind1 | you'll like my mad gimp skills |
| 19:09.13 | noda | I like the writing, thanks :) |
| 19:09.15 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:09.48 | noda | Ah, I see the problem. I didn't account for browsing very widely. Stupid of me :) |
| 19:10.46 | noda | Okay, fixed the title for real this time :) |
| 19:11.05 | TheMasterMind1 | ya, its good now |
| 19:11.08 | TheMasterMind1 | fixthe other stuff too |
| 19:11.29 | noda | As for pingi.... damn. I'll maybe have to resize him or something. or make the title fixed height (as opposed to text size-based height) |
| 19:11.52 | TheMasterMind1 | heh, turning the zoom on galeon down makes the site fugly |
| 19:11.53 | TheMasterMind1 | :) |
| 19:11.53 | noda | Unless I find a way to center him :) |
| 19:12.02 | noda | TheMasterMind1: It shouldn't... lemme try :) |
| 19:12.27 | noda | 140% still looks proper to me. |
| 19:12.38 | TheMasterMind1 | take it down |
| 19:12.40 | TheMasterMind1 | to like 40 |
| 19:12.48 | noda | TheMasterMind1: One thing I don't see is why your nav bar has no padding... |
| 19:12.56 | noda | lol, ick :) |
| 19:12.59 | TheMasterMind1 | heheheh |
| 19:13.06 | noda | Oh, I see it now :) |
| 19:13.22 | noda | Okay, gotta fix up those images. |
| 19:13.48 | noda | EW! Resizing *works* but looks horrible :( |
| 19:13.57 | TheMasterMind1 | ya |
| 19:14.30 | noda | Maybe I'll just give a bigger image. People aren't complaining about our site taking time to load... |
| 19:15.37 | noda | Or I can increase the margins to make it look good at default text size. |
| 19:15.41 | TheMasterMind1 | pingi is fixed |
| 19:15.52 | TheMasterMind1 | i just refrshed |
| 19:16.02 | noda | Oh, not really. I'm fiddling around. |
| 19:16.07 | noda | If only we had an svg-based pingi :( |
| 19:16.16 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 19:16.19 | noda | Whose baby is pingi, btw? Maybe we could do that. |
| 19:16.31 | TheMasterMind1 | twas hardwire i think |
| 19:16.40 | noda | Hrm, does he hang around often? :) |
| 19:16.42 | kergoth | yep, hardwire |
| 19:16.46 | noda | Haven't seen him lately :) |
| 19:16.47 | noda | kergoth: Heya :) |
| 19:16.48 | kergoth | isnt he on #zaurus now? |
| 19:16.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:16.50 | TheMasterMind1 | noda: he's in #zaurus |
| 19:16.54 | noda | Ooh ooh :) |
| 19:17.22 | Twiun | howdy peeps |
| 19:17.36 | KingSoopa | kergoth, remember how you wanted to make the OZ environment capable of any target arch/ |
| 19:18.20 | KingSoopa | well i have a environment capable of any target arch, and want to include OZ support |
| 19:18.43 | kergoth | okay, so try building it for one of them |
| 19:18.51 | kergoth | you'll find out pretty fast if there are any hardcoded arm references |
| 19:19.35 | KingSoopa | hheh |
| 19:19.58 | KingSoopa | what app do you suggest i try first |
| 19:21.42 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:21.48 | kergoth | um, the buildroot builds in dependency order |
| 19:22.03 | kergoth | the first item that will be built will be the builds for your build machine, then kernel, then glibc |
| 19:22.09 | kergoth | regardless of what _apps_ you select |
| 19:23.59 | KingSoopa | i know, but i already have that stuff |
| 19:24.17 | KingSoopa | i want to try to compile one of your apps in my environment |
| 19:24.40 | noda | TheMasterMind1: There we go, it's centered now :) |
| 19:24.53 | TheMasterMind1 | nice |
| 19:25.05 | TheMasterMind1 | two down, two to go |
| 19:25.39 | noda | Sourceforge logo is the same deal so that'll be easy :) |
| 19:25.54 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 19:53.38 | noda | School time! Yay, what fun... :( |
| 20:17.12 | mewyn | kergoth: ping |
| 20:17.33 | kergoth | mewyn: pong |
| 20:17.45 | mewyn | what was the sync password on opie?' |
| 20:19.05 | treke | mewyn: rootme, I think |
| 20:19.54 | mewyn | k |
| 20:20.26 | mewyn | kergoth: did you get the home adapter for the delphi sky fi? |
| 20:20.55 | kergoth | mewyn: nah, I dont own a home stereo system, which is why i just got the boombox unit for now |
| 20:21.45 | mewyn | hrm |
| 20:22.05 | mewyn | does the manual for the sky fi tell you at all the power requirements for the reciver unit? |
| 20:24.34 | mewyn | i just scored 6 good 3.5v LiIon battery cells |
| 20:25.06 | mewyn | 1.6AHr |
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| 20:59.39 | Twiun | SHEENmaster: http://adorpuye/~twiun/wonka |
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| 20:59.51 | SHEENmaster | Twiun: my Z broke :-( |
| 20:59.55 | Twiun | ahhh |
| 21:00.07 | SHEENmaster | Twiun: happen to know what model LCD the things use? |
| 21:02.15 | Twiun | SHEENmaster: no idea I'm afraid, best ask in #zaurus |
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| 22:06.30 | noda | Moo! |
| 22:06.47 | mewyn` | moo |
| 22:07.00 | chouimat | beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! |
| 22:40.53 | noda | MoooOOOOOOoooo. |
| 22:40.58 | kergoth | yo noda |
| 22:41.05 | noda | Moo. |
| 22:41.19 | noda | mooMOOOOmoo |
| 22:41.36 | noda | kergoth: http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/oz/ <-- Not a single <table> |
| 22:41.46 | noda | Now I have to make it work with IE |
| 22:41.50 | kergoth | woo |
| 22:41.52 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 22:42.11 | noda | Then I can work on my FUN style :) |
| 22:42.28 | ljp_ | "If I'm not going to get stinkin' rich, I might as well get stinkin' drunk" < from song I just heard |
| 22:42.47 | kergoth | aha |
| 22:44.04 | chouimat | noda: don't work quite well with konqueror |
| 22:44.44 | noda | chouimat: Oh ffs... |
| 22:44.47 | noda | chouimat: I'll work on it. |
| 22:45.07 | noda | The title I imagine is giving certain browsers difficulty... |
| 22:45.16 | noda | Only one I really have trouble fixing up is IE. |
| 22:45.17 | chouimat | noda: maybe it's a konqueror bug because I don't get a slider |
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| 22:45.25 | noda | chouimat: I'll load it up and check |
| 22:46.19 | noda | chouimat: Works perfectly for me. Could you try refreshing maybe? I was just screwing around a second ago |
| 22:46.40 | kergoth | hm, i shoudl install X |
| 22:46.43 | noda | (In fact, it's worth noting that the current site *doesn't* look perfect in Konqueror whereas this new one does) |
| 22:46.43 | kergoth | is kde 3.1 in debian unstable yet? |
| 22:48.13 | chouimat | noda: no change ... will update my head installation this week |
| 22:48.54 | noda | Mine's about a month old. I think it's post-3.1, not sure. |
| 22:50.08 | noda | Woo, almost done fixing for IE :) |
| 22:53.10 | noda | Oh, what on EARTH is IE doing... |
| 22:53.45 | noda | It's only rendering the *middle* of this line of text... |
| 22:53.56 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:55.42 | noda | kergoth: Do you have IE handy? LOOK at the freakin' thing! |
| 22:55.45 | kergoth | heh, fraid not |
| 22:55.53 | kergoth | just dropped win2k off my gaming box, its now a dev box |
| 22:55.54 | noda | It's worth showing a screenshot :P |
| 22:55.57 | kergoth | dont even have X installed :) |
| 22:56.02 | noda | Hehehe |
| 22:56.13 | kergoth | havent even built alsa yet |
| 22:56.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:56.40 | kergoth | building 2.4.20-rmap15d now w/ vga console support so i can get to a higher res |
| 22:56.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:56.49 | noda | http://www.adamhooper.com:4243/ie_sucks.png |
| 22:56.54 | noda | Hehehe :) |
| 22:57.22 | noda | I honestly do not understand how on earth it could render like that. It's only showing the middle 1/3 of the text... |
| 22:58.55 | noda | It's so astonishing, the difference in philosophies. Here I am, a web developer, noticing time and time again that bugs aren't EVER getting fixed. I've abandoned hope. Then look at Mozilla -- I've watched a bug progress in a matter of days from a total mystery to solved and publicly available. |
| 23:02.19 | noda | chouimat: Like the new 22.5kbps upload Videotron's giving us? :) |
| 23:02.35 | chouimat | noda: hehe |
| 23:03.13 | noda | chouimat: Konqueror's not giving you a scrollbar? |
| 23:03.32 | chouimat | noda: yup |
| 23:03.37 | noda | brb |
| 23:05.28 | noda | chouimat: browser bug, I won't work around it |
| 23:05.32 | noda | brb |
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| 23:33.25 | MSpin | kergoth: ping? |
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| 23:36.09 | noda | back |
| 23:45.07 | chouimat|food | *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHH* |
| 23:47.34 | troffasky | that stinks |
| 23:47.48 | noda | chouimat|food: Moo! |
| 23:57.19 | chouimat|tv | noda: mon chat est coucher dans la laveuse |
| 23:57.23 | noda | Awwwwww :) |
| 23:57.46 | chouimat|tv | noda: je vais la partir :) |
| 23:57.52 | noda | ROFL |
| 23:58.00 | noda | Ooh, just got rid of the last <div class="tmm1"> :) |
| 23:58.15 | noda | (no offense, TheMasterMind1, but it's not really a very generic name :P) |
| 23:58.45 | chouimat|tv | noda: he get out of the washer |
| 23:58.51 | kergoth | MS_away: pong |
