| 00:00.26 | tronical | argh, that reminds me that I need to fix the 3.2 toolchain build |
| 00:00.49 | tronical | something changed in 0pre6 wrt libstdc++'s headers ;( |
| 00:07.49 | pb_ | "I think gcc 3.2.1 contains more than just that one bug I originally mentioned." |
| 00:07.54 | pb_ | heh, no shit. |
| 00:08.14 | kergoth | heheh |
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| 00:09.22 | pb_ | now, if only he would actually file bug reports against gcc rather than just venting his spleen on some kernel mailing list, sigh. |
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| 00:19.13 | kergoth | treke: finally |
| 00:19.24 | kergoth | treke: done with the damn script |
| 00:19.33 | treke | kergoth: cool :) |
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| 00:20.29 | treke | kergoth: anything need to be done to get on the fly rotation working? |
| 00:20.41 | kergoth | treke: alter opie-rotation to call the new qcop message |
| 00:20.42 | kergoth | treke: but |
| 00:20.46 | treke | ah :) |
| 00:20.52 | kergoth | treke: thers a bug .. somewhere.. the screen size gets hosed |
| 00:21.02 | kergoth | it'll run you at 240x320 rotation with the scren at 320x240 |
| 00:21.12 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 00:21.48 | treke | hmmm. serial terminal isnt working again |
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| 00:34.47 | ljp | hi |
| 00:38.54 | drw | hey ljp |
| 00:40.16 | ljp | whazz goin' on in oe |
| 00:42.39 | kergoth | hey drw |
| 00:43.08 | ljp | OpiE |
| 00:43.14 | drw | hi kergoth |
| 00:43.28 | drw | quiet here tonight |
| 00:44.31 | ljp | thats because everyone is diligantly hard at work, coding |
| 00:44.47 | pb_ | quite so. |
| 00:45.09 | drw | ljp: I see... |
| 00:45.10 | pb_ | or, alternatively, everyone was wiped out by the earlier roulettefest. |
| 00:45.13 | ljp | crank up the music! |
| 00:48.17 | chouimat|away | ulyx: lart ljp |
| 00:49.16 | ljp | bah1 |
| 00:49.28 | ljp | err bah! even |
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| 01:07.35 | chouimat|away | sodomizing a tiger doesn't hurt if the tiger doesn't turn |
| 01:07.58 | treke | ? |
| 01:08.18 | chouimat|away | treke: nevermind |
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| 01:19.58 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot die |
| 01:20.02 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 01:51.14 | treke|home | TheMasterMind1: die! |
| 01:51.23 | treke|home | ulyx, roulettE? |
| 01:51.23 | ulyx | no idea |
| 01:51.27 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette? |
| 01:51.27 | ulyx | you best check yo'self |
| 01:54.27 | chouimat|away | ulyx roulette |
| 01:54.27 | ulyx | chouimat|away: chamber 6 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 01:54.39 | chouimat|away | ulyx roulette clearstats |
| 01:54.39 | ulyx | insufficient "config" auth (have 10, need 85) |
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| 01:56.40 | chouimat|away | ulyx roulette clearstats |
| 01:56.40 | ulyx | insufficient "config" auth (have 10, need 85) |
| 01:56.42 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette |
| 01:56.42 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 01:56.53 | chouimat|away | ulyx roulette clearstat |
| 01:56.53 | ulyx | incorrect usage: roulette => play russian roulette - starts a new game if one isn't already running. One round in a six chambered gun. Take turns to say roulette to the bot, until somebody dies. roulette reload => force the gun to reload, roulette stats => show stats from all games, roulette stats <player> => show stats for <player>, roulette clearstats => clear stats (config level auth required) |
| 02:00.06 | chouimat | ulyx roulette clearstat |
| 02:00.07 | ulyx | incorrect usage: roulette => play russian roulette - starts a new game if one isn't already running. One round in a six chambered gun. Take turns to say roulette to the bot, until somebody dies. roulette reload => force the gun to reload, roulette stats => show stats from all games, roulette stats <player> => show stats for <player>, roulette clearstats => clear stats (config level auth required) |
| 02:00.10 | chouimat | ulyx roulette clearstats |
| 02:00.11 | ulyx | can do! |
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| 02:07.59 | drw | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:07.59 | ulyx | drw: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:08.19 | drw | at least one thing went right this week... |
| 02:09.46 | pb_ | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:09.46 | ulyx | pb_: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:15.51 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:15.51 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:16.35 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:16.35 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:16.37 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:16.38 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 6 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:17.09 | pb_ | heh, some kind of dummy there. |
| 02:17.24 | drw | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:17.24 | ulyx | drw: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 02:24.01 | drw | have a good night everyone |
| 02:29.48 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:29.49 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:29.54 | treke|home | yeah! |
| 02:31.01 | treke|home | yeah! |
| 02:31.03 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:31.04 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 02:31.21 | pb_ | treke|home: ah, bad luck |
| 02:31.33 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:31.48 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:31.49 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:32.05 | treke|home | the real bad luck is that my apartment didnt magically get cleaned while I was gone today |
| 02:33.23 | pb_ | that certainly sucks |
| 02:35.19 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:35.20 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 02:38.49 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:38.50 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 02:38.54 | Neo|Work | ouch |
| 02:38.57 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:38.58 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.03 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:39.04 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.06 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:39.07 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.12 | treke|home | ulyx, roulette |
| 02:39.12 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 6 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.18 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:39.18 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.20 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:39.21 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.42 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:39.42 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:39.46 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:39.47 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 02:39.54 | chouimat | ulyx roulette stats |
| 02:39.55 | ulyx | roulette stats: 3 games completed, 22 shots fired at 6 players. Luckiest: chouimat (90.0% clicks). Unluckiest: chouimat (90.0% clicks). Highest survival rate: chouimat (66.7%). Lowest survival rate: chouimat (66.7%). Most wins: chouimat (4). Most deaths: chouimat,Neo|Work,treke|home (1). |
| 02:40.04 | treke|home | hehe, its hard to get used to not having a root password set :) |
| 02:40.12 | treke|home | I keep typing rootme :) |
| 02:40.17 | chouimat | ulyx roulette |
| 02:40.17 | ulyx | chouimat: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:42.52 | Neo|Work | ulyx: roulette |
| 02:42.53 | ulyx | Neo|Work: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:43.18 | Neo|Work | ssh root@trekes_host rm -rf / |
| 02:43.24 | Neo|Work | oops, wrong window! |
| 02:43.50 | treke|home | hehe |
| 02:44.48 | TheMasterMind1 | jeez |
| 02:45.00 | TheMasterMind1 | you wouldn't believe how freaking hard it is to find 1TB/month of bandwidth |
| 02:46.55 | treke|home | kergoth`bbl: commit |
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| 02:56.08 | treke|home | kergoth`bbl: where do you mount a ram disk? /mnt/ram? |
| 02:56.30 | kergoth`bbl | yeah |
| 02:56.34 | treke|home | k |
| 02:56.52 | kergoth`bbl | keep in mind, /mnt/ram is normally the persistant ramdisk |
| 02:56.52 | treke|home | do you do any symlinking? |
| 02:56.56 | kergoth`bbl | :) |
| 02:57.01 | treke|home | thats what I plan to use it for : |
| 02:57.12 | kergoth`bbl | symlinking? not for that.. we use ipkg/ipkg-link |
| 02:57.15 | kergoth`bbl | or aqpkg or what have you |
| 02:57.21 | treke|home | ah |
| 02:57.40 | kergoth`bbl | you could do that too |
| 02:57.48 | treke|home | mainly since thats all I've ever used mine for : |
| 02:57.52 | kergoth`bbl | but users often want something that'll survive a full reset or battery loss |
| 02:58.01 | kergoth`bbl | so current homedirs are in flash |
| 02:58.06 | kergoth`bbl | its a toss-up |
| 02:58.26 | kergoth`bbl | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.28 | pb_ | treke|home: in the default gpe setup, we have $HOME in flash, and $HOME_VOLATILE (= $HOME/.ramdisk) in ramdisk; seems to work ok. |
| 02:58.53 | pb_ | apps obviously need to be configured to prefer one or the other depending on what data they are saving. |
| 02:59.30 | treke|home | hmmm, well I'll do it however kergoth does it as the general case. I can keep my ipaq the way I like it :p |
| 02:59.59 | kergoth`bbl | you can always customize, just keep default behavior the same as every other supported device for OZ |
| 03:00.06 | kergoth`bbl | if we make a policy change, its across the board |
| 03:10.25 | ljp | I need a change in policy |
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| 03:10.41 | chouimat | arrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggg |
| 03:10.54 | ljp | cabin fever? |
| 03:11.25 | chouimat | ljp: no I just updated xfree to 4.2.99.3 and the tdfx driver don't work correclty |
| 03:12.42 | ljp | fun |
| 03:13.00 | chouimat | not really |
| 03:15.04 | ljp | been there. done that. |
| 03:16.27 | ljp | ~lart XFree |
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| 03:22.08 | chouimat | ulyx lart xfree |
| 03:27.46 | ljp | heh. that one is an interesting idea |
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| 04:03.34 | dscordia_ | hola everyone |
| 04:04.05 | kergoth | greetings |
| 04:15.43 | treke|home | kergoth: feature idea for next build system. Seperate choices for packages to build and packages to install |
| 04:15.49 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:15.59 | kergoth | I'll be doing that shortly actually |
| 04:16.03 | kergoth | treke|home: bk pull |
| 04:16.05 | treke|home | ah cool |
| 04:16.20 | kergoth | treke|home: look at scripts/ipkg-make-index, scripts/kernel-packages/*, and packages/kernel-c700/Makefile |
| 04:16.29 | treke|home | sweet. I'll look when I get this cleaning done :) |
| 04:17.19 | treke|home | If I look now I'll spend the rest of the night working on oz :) |
| 04:17.25 | kergoth | hehe good plan |
| 04:17.34 | kergoth | I'm still tweaking things, but you can see how its implemented |
| 04:26.12 | chouimat | ulyx lart xfree 4.2.99.3 |
| 04:26.40 | dscordia_ | im getting an undefined symbol in /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.1.5.0 |
| 04:26.49 | dscordia_ | when i try to start opie, anyone else seen this? |
| 04:27.01 | dscordia_ | 3.1r2 btw |
| 05:01.30 | Cloudchaser | hello |
| 05:01.46 | Cloudchaser | i have a question for any college folks out there |
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| 05:02.42 | Cloudchaser | hello |
| 05:03.11 | JasonNJ | kergoth: check your personal email |
| 05:03.39 | Cloudchaser | not sure if anyone's awake in here |
| 05:03.43 | Cloudchaser | cept me |
| 05:04.04 | JasonNJ | hmm. |
| 05:08.43 | kergoth | JasonNJ: k |
| 05:29.09 | JasonNJ | read? |
| 05:31.06 | kergoth | Yeah |
| 05:32.20 | JasonNJ | ok. |
| 05:33.12 | JasonNJ | so, all of you can go shit in a pot and go fuck yourselves. And Zaurus sucks. :) |
| 05:33.14 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 05:33.37 | JasonNJ | god, I just so much wanted to say that, sorry. lol |
| 05:34.32 | JasonNJ | I now no longer have to count the days until friday! woo hoo! |
| 05:35.05 | kergoth | haha |
| 05:35.07 | kergoth | no problem |
| 05:35.52 | JasonNJ | I feel like the dude at the end of "Office Space" |
| 05:36.36 | JasonNJ | I was gonna move my cube last week too |
| 05:36.36 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 05:37.55 | kergoth | lol |
| 05:37.56 | JasonNJ | no more shitty vending machine coffee! |
| 05:38.13 | JasonNJ | no more TPS reports! |
| 05:38.46 | kergoth | damn, and you didnt have a chance to filet a fish in your cube |
| 05:38.48 | kergoth | :D |
| 05:38.56 | kergoth | cube/office |
| 05:38.56 | kergoth | whatever |
| 05:38.57 | kergoth | ;) |
| 05:38.58 | JasonNJ | lol |
| 05:39.10 | kergoth | brb |
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| 06:23.13 | treke|home | last week was just a generallly crappy week :) |
| 06:29.23 | kergoth | treke|home: one more item to add to that script, need to add kernel-modules virtual package generation so the upgrade path is smooth |
| 06:29.30 | kergoth | not sure the easiest way to do it though |
| 06:29.30 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 06:31.23 | kergoth | thing is, i only want it to depend on the packages we built, i.e. those items that were actually built as modules |
| 06:31.34 | kergoth | and |
| 06:31.43 | kergoth | we should probably add our seperate kernel module packages to its depends |
| 06:31.50 | kergoth | hostap-modules, orinoco-modules |
| 06:32.11 | kergoth | ah, n/m, its easy |
| 06:32.36 | treke|home | kergoth: kernelmodules is a package |
| 06:32.49 | kergoth | not anymore. |
| 06:32.50 | kergoth | ;) |
| 06:32.56 | treke|home | ok. it was a package :) |
| 06:33.01 | kergoth | base-modules contains the core modules now |
| 06:33.04 | treke|home | ah :) |
| 06:33.08 | kergoth | kernel-modules is just a virtula package to ease transition |
| 06:33.19 | kergoth | virtual, that is |
| 06:33.31 | treke|home | I was refering to what is now base-modules :) |
| 06:35.42 | kergoth | new ipkg-make-kernel-packages has a control data dir, scripts/kernel-packages |
| 06:35.50 | kergoth | but you can specify any number of control dirson the cmdline |
| 06:36.01 | kergoth | to override the default control,prerm,postinst, etc with local verseions |
| 06:36.02 | kergoth | versions |
| 06:36.28 | kergoth | so our individual kernel builds can override Maintainer, and the like |
| 06:38.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:38.51 | kergoth | ipkinstall is hosed for the kernel builds |
| 06:39.02 | treke|home | how so? |
| 06:39.06 | kergoth | I need a way to determine what packages the script built |
| 06:39.10 | kergoth | we have a long list of Packages |
| 06:39.13 | kergoth | but it only actually builds 5 |
| 06:39.18 | kergoth | now it tries to install them all into the rootfs |
| 06:39.23 | kergoth | and dies on the packages that dont exist |
| 06:39.32 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:57.58 | SoopaT | kergoth |
| 06:57.58 | SoopaT | are you planning on staying up today? |
| 06:57.58 | SoopaT | or are you gonna ditch me again? |
| 06:59.11 | kergoth | heh, dunno :) |
| 07:08.16 | SoopaT | boourns |
| 07:08.22 | SoopaT | lemme try to go to sid |
| 07:08.38 | SoopaT | and see if that is why the buildroot won't find ncurses |
| 07:17.59 | kergoth | you need both libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev |
| 07:18.01 | kergoth | or what have you |
| 07:18.06 | kergoth | need the dev package as well |
| 07:23.29 | SoopaT | ok |
| 07:23.39 | SoopaT | lemme rebootay |
| 08:02.20 | treke|home | night |
| 08:02.34 | kergoth | night |
| 08:20.14 | Real2 | morning. :-) |
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| 09:40.56 | SoopaKDE | hola |
| 09:41.08 | SoopaKDE | kerg, you awake? |
| 09:45.16 | SoopaKDE | does anyone know where i get/find the openzaurus source packages? |
| 09:50.12 | XavierXeon | try it here : http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=43045 |
| 09:50.40 | XavierXeon | could be quite old though |
| 09:50.57 | SoopaKDE | where is the stuff that rc2 is based on? |
| 09:52.13 | XavierXeon | dont know |
| 09:53.36 | RealUlli | SoopaKDE: look here: |
| 09:53.39 | RealUlli | http://www.openzaurus.org/oz_website/faq/faq?id=84 |
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| 09:54.02 | RealUlli | to my knowledge, definitely *not* old... ;-)) |
| 09:54.27 | SoopaKDE | real, i am not using bk though |
| 09:54.36 | SoopaKDE | i grabbed the snapshot |
| 09:55.21 | XavierXeon | *reading sometimes helps* |
| 09:55.29 | XavierXeon | didnt think about the oz faq |
| 10:07.14 | RealUlli | XavierXeon: well, i went through the hassle of getting the source myself last week... |
| 10:10.09 | XavierXeon | RealUlli: so you know what it is all about :) |
| 10:10.35 | SoopaKDE | real, the entire source? |
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| 10:32.58 | RealUlli | XavierXeon: i know how to get the source - but not how to sucessfully compile it... ;-) |
| 10:36.03 | XavierXeon | I am just trying new kvirc version, might pop off the channel often |
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| 10:37.08 | XavierXeon | xcchat works better |
| 10:37.11 | RealUlli | oviously. ;-) |
| 10:37.20 | RealUlli | obviously. ;-) |
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| 11:06.28 | Piete | hey guys |
| 11:06.46 | XavierXeon | yo |
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| 11:32.21 | Harlekin | ibot: seen microdim |
| 11:32.22 | | microdim <~amd@adsl-64-169-116-197.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #zaurus, 17d 15h 58m 58s ago, saying: 'what is the diff between "konq - snapshot" and "konq - snapshot - full"'. |
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| 13:42.12 | ljp | wow, supposed to get to 70 F here today |
| 13:47.11 | mickeyl | ljp: where is "here" ? |
| 13:48.18 | ljp | colorado, north of Denver |
| 14:33.30 | TheMasterMind1 | hmmf |
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| 14:41.46 | ljp | holy cow. the space shuttle blew up on re entry |
| 14:44.08 | XavierXeon | does not look good |
| 14:48.34 | carsten | ljp: CNN states: noone know anything |
| 14:49.25 | ljp | well, the press doesnt know |
| 14:49.39 | ljp | looks like they lost comm at de orbit burn |
| 14:50.38 | TheMasterMind1 | oof |
| 14:50.46 | XavierXeon | they porbably lost some heat insulation tiles |
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| 15:04.05 | ljp | hmm,, after de orbit burn |
| 15:09.54 | ljp | seems a part of the booster broke off on launch and hit the leading edge of the wing |
| 15:12.46 | drw | ljp: just saw the story on /. and turned the TV on |
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| 15:14.12 | CrazyGogo | heyas... |
| 15:14.24 | ljp | they need shuttle spare parts at ISS if they need to reattach insulation tiles, or fix it |
| 15:14.45 | CrazyGogo | does anyone know where i can find the howto on how to move /opt to SD card (i want to install gcc) ? |
| 15:14.50 | XavierXeon | they do not have any spare parts |
| 15:15.32 | XavierXeon | CrazyGogo: go to http://www.openzaurus.org and search the faq for "crow" |
| 15:15.47 | CrazyGogo | XavierXeon: thx! 'opt' didnt help :) |
| 15:17.20 | CrazyGogo | after i moved that to SD, iÄd install gcc to root and it will automatically land on the SD card, right? |
| 15:18.09 | XavierXeon | yep |
| 15:20.05 | CrazyGogo | do i have to move /root to SD, too? |
| 15:21.31 | XavierXeon | no but i advise you to do so if your card is big enough |
| 15:21.56 | CrazyGogo | 128 MB |
| 15:24.54 | XavierXeon | i have that setup also on a 128 MB card ( i also moved /home on sd for apache) and with gcc i have still 20-30 MB left |
| 15:25.24 | XavierXeon | i threw gcc out though (to slow) and am now using python on my z |
| 15:25.29 | CrazyGogo | so i should move /root /opt anf /home if i install apache? |
| 15:25.33 | XavierXeon | s/to/too/ |
| 15:25.38 | XavierXeon | yes |
| 15:26.00 | CrazyGogo | ok... i initially used the 52/12 setup though... is that ok? |
| 15:26.29 | XavierXeon | sure, but having 64 MB does not hurt either :) |
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| 15:26.54 | XavierXeon | hi chouimat |
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| 15:27.05 | CrazyGogo | XavierXeon: if i move home/root/opt i could easiliy use 64/0 ? |
| 15:27.09 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:27.12 | XavierXeon | yes |
| 15:27.31 | CrazyGogo | and simply install all software to dest root afterwards... cool |
| 15:27.40 | XavierXeon | thats what i do |
| 15:27.48 | CrazyGogo | cool |
| 15:27.54 | CrazyGogo | gotta reflash *gg* |
| 15:28.22 | XavierXeon | backup is dead easy then : http://zaurus.xavierxeon.de/zaurus.php?group=main&topic=oz |
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| 15:29.22 | CrazyGogo | XavierXeon: we're talkin 128MB SD card.. right? |
| 15:30.26 | XavierXeon | i have a 128 MB card |
| 15:30.27 | CrazyGogo | on u're website it says CF ... SD is much slower, thats why i am asking... |
| 15:32.14 | XavierXeon | CrazyGogo: the backup initrd.bin goes to cf so you can use the cf card to restore your system via flashing ! |
| 15:32.34 | CrazyGogo | xavier... ah thx |
| 15:36.12 | treke|home | you guys see the news? |
| 15:36.45 | ljp | yep |
| 15:36.57 | treke|home | major suckage. but what a way to go |
| 15:37.54 | CrazyGogo | treke: too many flights without accident for the space shuttle... statistically it was overdue i guess :( |
| 15:38.00 | treke|home | yup |
| 15:38.20 | XavierXeon | its too _old_ ! |
| 15:38.30 | CrazyGogo | that, too |
| 15:38.33 | ljp | I'll repeat myself-> seems a part of the booster broke off on launch and hit the leading edge of the wing |
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| 15:38.53 | CrazyGogo | but u guys need all the money for military... cant spend on NASA anymore... |
| 15:38.56 | CrazyGogo | :((( |
| 15:39.26 | bipolar_ | ljp: And no one noticed until landing? |
| 15:39.32 | XavierXeon | ljp: that would not have happened with a saenger module approach to space flight |
| 15:40.40 | ljp | rmmod booster1 |
| 15:54.08 | FrenkYo | for run opie-mediaplayer2 I must link some lib :? |
| 15:54.40 | ljp | you need the opieplayer2 codecs |
| 15:54.59 | FrenkYo | the version 5.5.0 :? |
| 15:55.45 | FrenkYo | what seems the star near the blue point on the installed packages :? |
| 16:01.22 | ljp | I think that means its installed |
| 16:02.12 | CrazyGogo | the star? isn't that the indiator for a newer version available?! |
| 16:02.30 | ljp | hmm could be |
| 16:02.33 | drw | FrenkYo: the blue dot is that it is installed, the star is new version available |
| 16:03.47 | FrenkYo | thx |
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| 16:17.46 | CrazyGogo | xavier? |
| 16:18.55 | CrazyGogo | hmm... i moved opt/root/home to SD - now my filemanger wont start anymore and the Buttons-App cant store settings anymore... what could that be?! |
| 16:21.34 | CrazyGogo | do i have to do the symlinks in /mnt/home agein or are they still functioning? |
| 16:23.23 | CrazyGogo | lsmith: ./share: input7output error ... :((( |
| 16:23.28 | CrazyGogo | oops |
| 16:23.31 | CrazyGogo | ls |
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| 16:47.04 | CrazyGogo | boah... its taking ages to install gcc.... |
| 16:47.15 | treke|home | ibot, roulette? |
| 16:47.16 | | treke|home: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 16:47.17 | treke|home | ibot, roulette |
| 16:47.17 | | treke|home: bugger all, i dunno |
| 16:47.28 | treke|home | ulyx: roulette |
| 16:47.28 | ulyx | treke|home: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 16:47.53 | Harlekin | some more to add to ignore list |
| 16:47.59 | treke|home | hehe |
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| 16:54.50 | Lazerdye | Hi all, I am having a problem with Kismet under OZ rc2, when I start up kismet_monitor, it seems to die, and the only meaningful information in dmesg is it says, "process 2429 (iwpriv) used deprecated iwpriv monitor - update software to use iwconfig mode monitor) |
| 16:55.15 | Lazerdye | I cannot find anything about this by searching the web through Google. |
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| 17:58.20 | treke|home | at least it didnt just leave me hunting for .rej files |
| 17:58.45 | treke|home | actualyl no, a cvs update just leaves those crapy markers in the files |
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| 18:37.06 | kergoth | treke|home: notice i switched the ipaq kernel build to the new script, seems to work. |
| 18:37.11 | kergoth | morning btw :) |
| 18:37.20 | mickeyl | morning kergoth |
| 18:39.36 | chouimat|food | kergoth: hi |
| 18:43.21 | treke|home | kergoth: yeah doing a clean build now |
| 18:43.42 | carsten | Matt Groening compared Homer to GWB :)) "same mental capacity" or sth like that :)) |
| 18:44.21 | carsten | s/to/with/ |
| 18:44.36 | chouimat|food | lol |
| 18:44.40 | kergoth | treke|home: cool, i did one last night for ipaq. didnt build an image, we need to confirm that works |
| 18:44.58 | treke|home | yeah, once this one is build I'll give it a try |
| 18:44.58 | kergoth | treke|home: note i reverted to the hackish ipkinstall.. the only way we can do it not knowing what packages actually exist beforehand |
| 18:45.01 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:45.49 | carsten | gtg. Party |
| 18:45.55 | kergoth | hm, i have 13 buildroots |
| 18:46.09 | treke|home | If you try starting pcmcia without valid module deps, it will fail. |
| 18:46.22 | treke|home | Then when you run depmod -a and start pcmcia it will hang the pda :) |
| 18:46.32 | chouimat|food | kergoth: the project based systems is on the atble here |
| 18:47.05 | kergoth | treke|home: its not surprising that it wouldnt start without deps.. |
| 18:47.26 | kergoth | treke|home: but it shouldnt hang.. thats device specific, the Z isnt exhibiting that behavior |
| 18:47.29 | kergoth | odd |
| 18:47.30 | treke|home | kergoth: No that wasnt the surpsing part. It was being able to reliably hang the machine when you restart |
| 18:47.38 | treke|home | kergoth: Yeah, I figure its a kernel thing |
| 18:47.47 | kergoth | yeah, probably |
| 18:47.55 | kergoth | enable serial console or console on VT so you see messages |
| 18:48.02 | kergoth | serial is best |
| 18:48.06 | kergoth | then if it panics you see it :) |
| 18:48.25 | treke|home | kergoth: It've seen this happen before, no messages make it out :) |
| 18:48.42 | chouimat|food | kergoth: I think I wil implement a sandbox approach to the new buildroot systems |
| 18:48.43 | kergoth | heh, thats a hardcore crash |
| 18:48.57 | kergoth | does sysrq work? |
| 18:49.01 | treke|home | yup. screen goes black and not a peep comes out to the console |
| 18:49.04 | kergoth | (on serial, thats a break) |
| 18:49.15 | treke|home | hmm, never tried. Didnt know it was a break |
| 18:50.03 | ljp | hi! |
| 18:51.12 | kergoth | hey ljp |
| 18:53.13 | ljp | ulyx weather KBJC |
| 18:53.14 | ulyx | 1 hours, 14 minutes ago, on Sat Feb 01 17:45:00 UTC 2003, the wind was blowing at a speed of 7.72 meters per second (17.26 miles per hour) from the South/Southwest at KBJC. The temperature was 19 degrees Celsius (66 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1012 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 15.3%. There were a few clouds at a height of 2134 meters (7000 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 6096 |
| 18:53.14 | ulyx | meters (20000 feet). |
| 18:53.26 | ljp | supposed to get to 70 today |
| 18:53.28 | chouimat|food | ulyx weather |
| 18:53.28 | ulyx | I don't know where chouimat|food is! |
| 18:53.37 | chouimat|food | ulyx weather CYQB |
| 18:53.38 | ulyx | 59 minutes ago, on Sat Feb 01 18:00:00 UTC 2003, the wind was blowing at a speed of 4.12 meters per second (9.21 miles per hour) from the East at CYQB. The temperature was -1 degrees Celsius (30 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1014 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 80.0%. There were broken clouds at a height of 3048 meters (10000 feet). |
| 18:57.19 | CrazyGogo | could anyone send me a _working_ de.xml for the keyz.zkb please?! mine seems to map a lot of symbols but not the right keys :(( |
| 18:57.22 | kergoth | treke|home: it builds an image fine |
| 18:57.34 | kergoth | treke|home: found a bug in dependencies, fixed and pushed |
| 18:57.46 | CrazyGogo | kergoth: i got gcc up and unning now :))) *happy* |
| 18:58.39 | CrazyGogo | chouimat|food: me, too.... |
| 18:59.11 | treke|home | kergoth: one thing I've noticed, the config files for busy box are out of date, make oldconfig finds new features |
| 18:59.26 | kergoth | yeah saw that |
| 18:59.29 | chouimat|food | CrazyGogo: ok we all know that the shuttle exploded ... do the fucking investigation and tell us that |
| 18:59.31 | kergoth | ill update defconfig |
| 19:00.40 | chouimat|food | wow! that reporter impress me the shutttle exploded at an altitude of 60 000 KM |
| 19:02.45 | treke|home | chouimat|food: thats pretty damn high |
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| 19:03.11 | chouimat|food | treke|home: exactly ... |
| 19:03.16 | treke|home | chouimat|food: figure at that rate it should hit ground in a couple months |
| 19:03.24 | mickeyl | ccache is da bomb... |
| 19:03.30 | treke|home | mickeyl: so true |
| 19:04.04 | mickeyl | really fantastic while doing stuff like we do in buildroot |
| 19:04.35 | mickeyl | make; damn, it doesn't link... change some parameters, rebuild all makefiles, make clean and make again... |
| 19:05.10 | chouimat|food | Homer^H^H^H^H^HGeorges is on tv |
| 19:05.35 | ljp | my black cat that was outside in the sun is over heating |
| 19:06.22 | mickeyl | you're a lucky guy... 2 degrees celcious here... brrr... |
| 19:07.03 | chouimat|food | mickeyl: it's -1C here |
| 19:07.58 | treke|home | the weather is lovely here :) |
| 19:08.33 | mickeyl | treke: hmm.... so you live in another germany than I ? :-D |
| 19:09.14 | kergoth | ulyx: lart ljp |
| 19:09.30 | ljp | ouch |
| 19:09.55 | ljp | someone is watering their lawn todsay, and we're still in a drought |
| 19:10.20 | chouimat|food | ulyx: lart ljp |
| 19:12.00 | ljp | their? |
| 19:12.40 | ljp | I still need to rake my lawn, as no big wind storms happened this year |
| 19:13.40 | treke|home | mayes I do |
| 19:13.45 | treke|home | yes I do |
| 19:14.13 | treke|home | I live in the germany on the west coast of the US :) |
| 19:15.01 | mickeyl | treke: D'oh... mixed you up with zecke :-D |
| 19:15.10 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 19:15.13 | treke|home | hehe :) |
| 19:15.19 | treke|home | how is zecke doing? |
| 19:15.29 | mickeyl | better but still in hospital |
| 19:15.48 | treke|home | he needs to recover so he can get back to work |
| 19:17.49 | chouimat|food | mickeyl: zecke is in #kde-devel |
| 19:18.31 | kergoth | chouimat|food: he's also in #opie :P |
| 19:18.47 | ljp | mopie opie |
| 19:18.55 | ljp | OpiE |
| 19:19.07 | treke|home | opie sucks lets all switch to gpe |
| 19:19.32 | kergoth | treke sucks, lets cut him up and feed him to my cat |
| 19:19.39 | ljp | hahaha |
| 19:19.52 | treke|home | hmmm, on second thought, opie is growing on me |
| 19:20.11 | ljp | why not use gpe widgets in opie apps? or opie widgets in gpq apps, and have a unified interface? |
| 19:20.56 | treke|home | why not just switch opie to X11 |
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| 19:21.19 | treke|home | if X11 is doing all the drawing qt is bound to get smaller |
| 19:22.44 | ljp | ~lart xfree |
| 19:23.00 | treke|home | now thats just cold |
| 19:23.01 | ljp | give up xfree and just use the framebuffer |
| 19:28.06 | kergoth | hey cool |
| 19:28.09 | kergoth | the c700 cf updater |
| 19:28.12 | kergoth | runs in linux |
| 19:28.17 | kergoth | weird |
| 19:28.55 | kergoth | woot |
| 19:29.03 | kergoth | the corgi kernel i built just booted on my c700 |
| 19:29.05 | kergoth | :D |
| 19:30.18 | mickeyl | did you decide on the future SL5x builds yet? will work on "our" 2.4.19 continue or will you take the sharp 2.4.18 and include the new stuff done for 2.4.19 |
| 19:30.30 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:30.44 | kergoth | nothing in this 2.4.18 tree benefits us for our 2.4.19 stuff |
| 19:30.52 | kergoth | and half of this stuff cn be replaced by our 2.4.19 work |
| 19:30.53 | mickeyl | kergoth: ok, that answers |
| 19:30.57 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:31.36 | chouimat | kergoth: check the ts drive rin .18 :) |
| 19:32.02 | mickeyl | yep, did they touch (sic!) this in 2.4.18? |
| 19:32.06 | kergoth | they included collie support. |
| 19:32.15 | kergoth | so yes, they brought forward all the crap from their 2.4.6 tree |
| 19:32.29 | kergoth | including the collie ucb1200 drivers, with the ts driver and its ugly state machine |
| 19:32.34 | mickeyl | damn. |
| 19:32.58 | kergoth | they didnt do any improvements, just dragged it forward to 2.41.8 |
| 19:33.01 | kergoth | 2.4.18 |
| 19:35.28 | kergoth | I'll be merging the trees |
| 19:36.16 | mickeyl | for 3.1 release or later? |
| 19:36.39 | kergoth | later |
| 19:36.51 | kergoth | I want to rewrite some of these drivers, and reformat the ones that dont ened a rewrite |
| 19:36.55 | kergoth | etc |
| 19:37.40 | mickeyl | how are chances that the sharp2.4.18 sd module will work in oz2.4.19? any better than 2.4.6 or didn't they touch this either? |
| 19:38.07 | kergoth | .. |
| 19:38.15 | kergoth | its a binary only sd module that uses the xscale mmc controller |
| 19:38.21 | kergoth | completely different hardware |
| 19:38.22 | kergoth | doesnt help us |
| 19:39.15 | mickeyl | oh. so then it doesn't look like sharp will release a ROM for the 5x00 models then?` |
| 19:39.30 | mickeyl | with 2.4.18 |
| 19:39.34 | kergoth | who knows |
| 19:39.38 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 19:39.41 | kergoth | i highly doubt it |
| 19:39.45 | kergoth | but ya never know |
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| 19:40.59 | SoopaKDE-2 | hola |
| 19:41.04 | SoopaKDE-2 | anyone awake? |
| 19:41.29 | kergoth | no |
| 19:41.39 | SoopaKDE-2 | damnit ker |
| 19:41.52 | SoopaKDE-2 | you charlie brown'd me again last nite |
| 19:42.06 | SoopaKDE-2 | "sure i'll be here in 5minutes" |
| 19:42.09 | SoopaKDE-2 | then poof you are gone.. |
| 19:42.19 | SoopaKDE-2 | what have i done to deserve such pains? |
| 19:42.24 | SoopaKDE-2 | :`( |
| 19:42.49 | chouimat | SoopaKDE-2: kergoth is our resident BOFH |
| 19:43.37 | kergoth | mickeyl: MAKE="make -j3" appears to make my ncurses build explode |
| 19:44.33 | SoopaKDE-2 | BOFH? |
| 19:46.30 | mickeyl | kergoth: hmm... why that? |
| 19:46.45 | kergoth | i didnt bother isolating, just disabled it for now and finished the build |
| 19:46.53 | kergoth | will check later |
| 19:47.18 | mickeyl | mickeyl: problem is, we inherently can't know if a certain make process is the deepest make process. |
| 19:47.29 | mickeyl | at least in the current build system, we can't know |
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| 19:48.30 | noda | Moo! |
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| 19:49.20 | mickeyl|tv | bbl |
| 19:57.02 | CrazyGogo | does anyone successfully use the keyz applikation fpr german keymapping with oz3.1rc2 ?? it worked for me up to rc1, now the '>' wont work :(( |
| 20:00.27 | ljp | poor windows developers.... dont have distributed compiling |
| 20:02.07 | noda | Poor Windows users don't have *anything* when it comes to programming :) |
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| 20:10.01 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
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| 20:11.04 | Dessimat0r | lo all ;) |
| 20:13.29 | ljp | what up 'g'? |
| 20:15.34 | chouimat | ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGg |
| 20:22.49 | ljp | ? |
| 20:24.42 | chouimat | ljp: nothing just received boiling water on my feet |
| 20:24.59 | ljp | hmmm |
| 20:26.38 | SoopaKDE-2 | anyone here use cervisia? |
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| 20:49.30 | _ibz | hi |
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| 20:53.52 | kergoth | mickeyl|tv: hey nice, you split out the x86 python piece |
| 20:59.07 | noda | SoopaKDE-2: I've used cervisia for all of 10 minutes, until I learned yet again that console is faster than gui. |
| 20:59.38 | SoopaKDE-2 | noda, did you use cvs to grab the latest OpenEmbedded/zaurus sources? |
| 21:00.05 | kergoth | eh? |
| 21:00.13 | noda | SoopaKDE-2: No, since they're bk, not cvs |
| 21:00.13 | kergoth | SoopaKDE-2: _do not use oz cvs_ |
| 21:00.22 | kergoth | SoopaKDE-2: it hastn been updated in months. its depcrecated, and unmaintained |
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| 21:08.51 | JasonNJ | kergoth? |
| 21:08.56 | kergoth | hey jason |
| 21:09.07 | JasonNJ | dude, I think we should dedicate the 1st OE release to Columbia |
| 21:10.03 | Dessimat0r | argh, eMule has sapped all my memory again |
| 21:10.06 | kergoth | good idea. |
| 21:10.27 | JasonNJ | yeah, the boot screen and the default background should have a classy shuttle picture on it. |
| 21:11.33 | JasonNJ | With maybe "Columbia: 1981-2003" In Memoriam in text |
| 21:11.45 | JasonNJ | we should get a good art person to work on it |
| 21:12.33 | CrazyGogo | does anyone have the 'old' miniide ipk around? the 1.2 does not work under rc2 :(( |
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| 21:17.09 | kergoth | about to flash an image onto my c700 |
| 21:18.47 | Dilbert- | what kind of relationship is there between columbia and oe ? |
| 21:19.06 | ljp | they both have an 'o' in the name? |
| 21:19.39 | chouimat | Dilbert-: they didn't use our software |
| 21:21.31 | ljp | wasnt redhat aboard this mission? |
| 21:21.48 | chouimat | ljp: that explain it |
| 21:22.22 | ljp | should have used gentoo |
| 21:24.58 | kergoth | hm |
| 21:26.27 | JasonNJ | kergoth: you working on OZ for the c700? |
| 21:26.45 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:26.55 | kergoth | the kernel built and booted fine, just tweaking the rootfs |
| 21:27.05 | kergoth | then I'll finisht he opie/qt support |
| 21:27.15 | kergoth | main thing, is adding the code to Qt to handle the Zoom mode |
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| 21:29.47 | kergoth | that reminds me, we need a smooth high res pingizauru for the c700 boot logo |
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| 22:20.37 | treke|home | grrrr. build died |
| 22:21.28 | ljp | give it CPR |
| 22:22.20 | chouimat | ulyx: lart ljp |
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| 22:25.02 | _ibz | does /bin/sh have to link to busybox? i *think* when i link /bin/sh to bash, it fscks up the boot sequence... |
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| 23:04.21 | chouimat | hi Ony4 |
| 23:04.36 | Onyx4 | hey |
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| 23:34.15 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | anyone here? i need some help |
| 23:37.22 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | :( |
| 23:40.28 | CrazyGogo | *zonk* |
| 23:40.57 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | i moved the folders /opt /home and /root to my sdcard...and linked them ... and when i try to start opie now it says: opie not installed... |
| 23:41.31 | treke|home | BiGBiGYLLaMa: probably because your sd card isnt mounted when opie loads |
| 23:43.06 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | it is the same when i all is mounted and i try to start opie from the console |
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| 23:58.49 | BiGBiGYLLaMa | too late now... already flashing ;) |