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| 14:08.34 | riz__ | Has anyone experienced recipes which have not been inbcluded in a build throwing build errors? Specifically for meta-qt5. If so, how did you resolved it or how did you trace where the recipe was being called form? |
| 14:10.07 | riz__ | from* |
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| 14:41.54 | davis | hello |
| 14:52.57 | Crofton|road | gm |
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| 15:12.07 | davis | where is a channel for talking about problems with a yocto build problems? #yocto seems vacant or not on topic for this type of talk. |
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| 15:25.38 | kergoth | davis: #yocto or #oe are both fine and both fairly active |
| 15:25.52 | kergoth | it's just quite early in some timezones, it gets more active a bit later |
| 15:27.52 | Crofton|road | both channels are for the same thing, with slightly differenet sets of people |
| 15:28.02 | Crofton|road | highly annoying, especially for new people |
| 15:28.15 | Crofton|road | just ask the question |
| 15:28.28 | Crofton|road | and people will answer as they look at the window |
| 15:32.19 | davis | kergoth: i'll be honest. The yocto docs on the yoctoproject.org are massive. Its almost so big I feel like skipping them and just trying to figure out the code. |
| 15:32.52 | davis | i'm trying to take a yocto project which was originally for a ubuntu 12 desktop and get it working on a modern ubuntu. |
| 15:33.19 | davis | the build system is so tied to ubuntu 12 desktop, i can't get it working on any other release. |
| 15:34.13 | davis | it complains that sdl is not installed but on my newer box I have it installed with the same package name and the same tools and libraries are available, but I can not track down why it fails on the config. |
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| 15:36.02 | kergoth | i've done builds on pretty much every distro you can imagine, yocto itself isn't tied to ubuntu. yours might be. regardless, either install the sdl development package for your distro, or edit conf/local.conf and comment out the sdl related lines that enable its use in qemu-native |
| 15:36.28 | kergoth | if you comment out those lines, qemu will build without gui support, but if you're not running it anyway, or only run it nographic, it wont matter |
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| 15:36.50 | davis | kergoth: that is the point. ive installed the libsdl. its there. |
| 15:36.56 | kergoth | again, it's not sdl |
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| 15:37.01 | kergoth | it's the sdl *development* files |
| 15:37.27 | kergoth | andi t will have to be for the correct sdl version. but again, worst case just comment out those lines and move on |
| 15:37.35 | kergoth | (that is, i dont think sdk 1.2 and 2.0 are compatible) |
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| 15:39.07 | davis | https://gist.github.com/netskink/e971f975bbbd9fd46a81 |
| 15:39.21 | davis | kergoth that is the relevant portion of my local.conf |
| 15:39.33 | kergoth | yes, i know |
| 15:39.47 | kergoth | comment out the 3 uncommented lines and you can build fine regardless of the sdl |
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| 15:40.15 | davis | ok i can try, but I lose the vncsetup right? |
| 15:40.29 | kergoth | no, re-read the commented section |
| 15:40.37 | kergoth | those lines enable the sdl output *in addition to the vnc output* |
| 15:40.45 | kergoth | vnc will be enabled regardless |
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| 15:41.44 | davis | ok, i'll give it a shot |
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| 15:42.12 | davis | i was going to say, I found the section which looked like where it was configuring libsdl |
| 15:42.20 | davis | and talk about that |
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| 15:43.17 | kergoth | if this is a redhat based system, i.e. centos, etc, then the package you need is SDL-devel. for ubuntu, it's libsdl1.2-dev, from what i've seen |
| 15:43.25 | kergoth | just as an fyi |
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| 15:45.36 | davis | sorry kergoth, i was talking to a coleague |
| 15:46.07 | davis | yes, its libsdl1.2-dev and yes, i've compared both boxes and they both have this installed. |
| 15:46.35 | davis | both boxes are ubuntu. its just one is ubuntu 12 desktop and the other is ubuntu 14 server |
| 15:46.51 | kergoth | i build on both of those fine |
| 15:46.52 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 15:47.09 | davis | i blieve you |
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| 15:47.41 | davis | its just that i'm working with a setup which was probablly written by people who hacked something together and said "ship it" |
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| 15:48.56 | davis | for instance, I dont understand why this setting I found is not in src/build/local-config but in .build-yocto/conf/local.conf |
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| 15:49.09 | kergoth | strange |
| 15:49.29 | davis | indeed |
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| 15:49.37 | kergoth | definitely some custom setup. still, we just run ./configure in qemu, if that's failing, then it's the upstream qemu buildsystem failing to find sdl on the host, it'd probably fail similarly outside of yocto |
| 15:50.12 | davis | btw, are you German? This who yocto/openembedded seems to European based. |
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| 15:51.32 | davis | not to mention kergoth of bavaria |
| 15:51.53 | kergoth | I'm not, no, but you're right, a substantial portion of the core devs are |
| 15:51.57 | davis | ahh nvm, its barbaria, not bavaria |
| 15:52.24 | davis | lol, i worked in germany for six months and went camping once in bavaria. very pretty place. |
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| 15:59.20 | davis | hmm. that comment out did not work. i'll try to do a clean build. |
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| 17:52.38 | Crofton | 10266 KiB systemd |
| 17:52.38 | Crofton | 5348 KiB udev-hwdb |
| 17:52.38 | Crofton | 2872 KiB systemd-extra-utils |
| 17:52.55 | Crofton | I'm pretty sure president Trump would explode if he knew about this |
| 18:00.39 | kergoth | ouch |
| 18:03.50 | Crofton | yeah |
| 18:04.07 | Crofton | seems like some config options where added to help shrink this |
| 18:04.22 | kergoth | i saw a couple patch series on the lists about paring down systemd at one point |
| 18:04.26 | kergoth | dunno what happened with that |
| 18:04.28 | Crofton | I'm trying to make a minimal ramdisk for bringup |
| 18:04.38 | Crofton | I need to investigate |
| 18:04.40 | kergoth | sounds like you should ditch systemd for the ramdisk entirely |
| 18:05.01 | Crofton | yeah, but I am trying to learn new tricks |
| 18:17.53 | Crofton | hmm, we have a ling list of systemd features now |
| 18:18.04 | Crofton | but we really need something explaining them :) |
| 18:20.02 | kergoth | i've thought about that too, would be nice to have a way to document packageconfigs. i.e. PACKAGECONFIG_DOCS[foo] = "a foo thing" or something |
| 18:20.08 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 18:20.27 | Crofton | yeah, I suspect that tracking down the systemd docs would help |
| 18:20.45 | kergoth | assuming the systemd docs explain all its configure options (i doubt it :) |
| 18:23.28 | Crofton | :) |
| 18:55.16 | Crofton | anyone know who lightens is on Stackoverflow? |
| 18:55.17 | Crofton | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36262794/bitbake-bbappend-file-percent-in-filename |
| 19:04.23 | kergoth | <3 https://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml |
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| 19:38.34 | bencoh | kergoth: is it possible to use a non-systemd initrd with a systemd rootfs? |
| 19:39.02 | kergoth | if your distro features includes both sysvinit and systemd, then selection of which is used can be done on a per-image basis, yes |
| 19:39.14 | kergoth | afaik, anyway |
| 19:39.14 | bencoh | I thought systemd prevents that somehow (ie it wants to be pid 1) |
| 19:39.34 | bencoh | I don't mean openembedded-wise :) |
| 19:40.00 | kergoth | I don't understand what you mean. when you exec init on the rootfs from the initrd/ramdisk, init is process 1 |
| 19:40.13 | kergoth | what you used to boot the initial ramdisk is irrelevent if it's used to start a real rootfs |
| 19:40.31 | kergoth | if you're only using the ramdisk alone, then the other image is irrelevent |
| 19:41.03 | bencoh | right, I'd need to re-read/check that info (I've never tried) |
| 19:41.31 | kergoth | plenty of initrds just use a /init shell script and don't use an init at all |
| 19:41.33 | kergoth | most, even |
| 19:42.50 | bencoh | yeah that's what I do as well, but I've never tried to run systemd from there |
| 19:43.49 | kergoth | as long as you 'exec' from there, the new process will be the same pid as the original process, that's how exec works |
| 19:51.04 | bencoh | yeah |
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| 19:51.54 | Crofton | I think my ramdisk size issue is mainly a problem of load addresses :) |
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| 23:10.07 | Crofton | ndec_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36184976/building-yocto-image-for-dragonboard-410c-how-to-build-chromium |
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