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| 00:53.35 | khem | bluelightning: SD image format is too machine specific at the moment |
| 00:53.53 | khem | bluelightning: wic is in right direction |
| 00:54.15 | bluelightning | khem: right, but we need to know what the concrete changes required are |
| 00:54.17 | khem | but we need to let machines specify some piece of it |
| 00:54.34 | bluelightning | of course |
| 00:54.34 | khem | from highlevel |
| 00:54.50 | khem | all a machine should be concerned about is |
| 00:54.58 | khem | 1. boot partition 2. rootfs partiion |
| 00:55.06 | khem | everything else is distro choice |
| 00:55.18 | khem | if they want to have another logical partition |
| 00:55.21 | khem | or so |
| 00:55.57 | khem | so if wic can let machines choose. 1. and 2. with its formats they support |
| 00:56.02 | khem | and content of boot partition |
| 00:56.07 | khem | we should be good |
| 00:56.15 | khem | I think rootfs can be generic as well |
| 00:56.31 | khem | its just content of /boot |
| 00:56.40 | khem | and kmods may be |
| 00:56.53 | khem | but format wise they are standard locations |
| 00:57.29 | khem | IMO machines should provide a small fragment into larger wic config |
| 00:57.39 | khem | not otherway around |
| 00:57.56 | khem | then wic should also impose its requirements on machines |
| 00:58.00 | khem | it can not be one way |
| 00:58.31 | khem | something like in order to support wic machine should support x, y, z |
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| 09:10.50 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 09:59.12 | bluelightning | hi mckoan |
| 10:07.53 | mckoan | hi bluelightning |
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| 16:05.05 | louson | Hello |
| 16:05.20 | louson | There is a missing dependency in meta-openembedded |
| 16:05.40 | louson | I am not sure the best way to add it |
| 16:06.39 | louson | ntp misses the rdepends "perl-module-getopt-std" |
| 16:07.32 | rburton | RDEPENDS_${PN} += "perl-module-getopt-std" |
| 16:07.36 | rburton | in the ntp recipe |
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| 16:09.18 | louson | ok, because the ntp bb starts with a ntp.inc |
| 16:18.44 | louson | hmm maybe the RDEPENDS_${PN}-utils += "perl" does the job |
| 16:24.54 | RP | kergoth: any thoughts on the data_smart patch I sent to the bitbake list? |
| 16:29.19 | kergoth | RP: oh, hey, that'll fix the long-standing behavior where use of a ${} in inline python would explode so we had to switch to d.getVar()s? |
| 16:29.38 | kergoth | looks reasonable to me. not pretty, but we're stuck for now |
| 16:29.39 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 16:30.04 | kergoth | s/use of a \${}/use of a \${} for a undefined var/ |
| 16:31.16 | kergoth | I'd still like to see use of undefined ${} raise an error, as it'd catch typos easily and it's not hard to add default values, but then add the ability to escape it for shell passthrough, ie. \\${}.. but then we'd have to take that into account when we want \ to pass through.. |
| 16:31.21 | kergoth | afk |
| 16:32.37 | RP | kergoth: in image.bbclass, I'm 'abusing' this to defer expansion of certain variables too |
| 16:33.29 | RP | kergoth: I see the image.bbclass code as a stepping stone to something more sane for image tasks so hopefully it won't be around for too long |
| 16:35.32 | RP | kergoth: ultimately I agree about the undefined vars. The question is whether that patch makes things better or worse for now... |
| 16:38.58 | kergoth | I think it's worth applying as is, it's an improvement to a fairly common pain point |
| 16:40.39 | RP | kergoth: agreed, that was my thinking too. I prefer it to the patch proposed to 'fix' image.bbclass for example |
| 16:40.51 | kergoth | agreed. |
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| 16:44.15 | RP | kergoth: as a bonus, I think I can clear up some of the hacks in bitbake.conf with this... |
| 16:44.30 | RP | kergoth: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/wip&id=aea168f014cb3cd164bea4a7d9560f9af10a802a |
| 16:44.37 | kergoth | it'd be nice to see the PKGE nastiness go away |
| 16:44.47 | kergoth | right, that :) |
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| 16:44.59 | RP | kergoth: that patch has one bit of reversed logic but you get the idea |
| 16:45.06 | kergoth | yeah |
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| 17:47.33 | Crofton|work | OK, in an effort to avoid the FOSDEM sickness, I had a flu shot |
| 17:48.53 | bluelightning | Crofton|work: sounds like a good idea |
| 17:49.12 | Crofton|work | just found out it takes two weeks for full effect, so a bit late :0 |
| 17:49.22 | bluelightning | Crofton|work: I watched someone wipe their nose and then immediately shake someone's hand last year, no wonder people get sick |
| 17:50.12 | Crofton|work | yeah, with the weather, going in and out etc hard to cope |
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| 18:25.11 | smurray | I'm running afoul of the automatic removal of shadow when you don't have package_management enabled, is there a knob somewhere that I'm missing? |
| 18:25.36 | smurray | It doesn't look like it from looking at rootfs.py... |
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| 18:32.25 | bluelightning | smurray: we did recently change it so it only removes them now if your rootfs is read-only, rather than the fact that you don't have a package manager |
| 18:33.09 | bluelightning | (recently as in November in the master branch) |
| 18:33.45 | smurray | bluelightning: thanks, I just thought to check master instead of jethro and saw that |
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| 18:34.53 | smurray | bluelightning: slight issue is I'm currently upgrading from dizzy to fido, may just backport that change locally for now |
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| 21:08.41 | Crofton|work | amyone remember what the IMAGE_FEATURE qt4-pkgs did? |
| 21:08.42 | Crofton|work | ERROR: gnuradio-demo-image was skipped: 'qt4-pkgs' in IMAGE_FEATURES is not a valid image feature. |
| 21:09.51 | rburton | -FEATURE_PACKAGES_qt4-pkgs = "packagegroup-core-qt-demoapps" |
| 21:09.58 | rburton | installed the qt4 demos |
| 21:10.44 | bluelightning | almost certainly that was more than you needed |
| 21:12.41 | Crofton|work | it was called -demo-image :) |
| 21:12.50 | Crofton|work | but I suspect I can drop them with no one noticing |
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| 23:13.44 | Crofton|work | at4-pkgs from image. |
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