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| 10:04.39 | jackmitchell | i'm trying to compile alsa-utils outside of OE and I've found that alsa-dev isn't in the SDK, is this expected or should it be included? |
| 10:05.03 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 10:05.13 | bluelightning | hi jackmitchell |
| 10:05.29 | jackmitchell | bluelightning: morning |
| 10:05.50 | mago_ | morning |
| 10:06.21 | bluelightning | jackmitchell: well, -dev packages are only in the SDK if a corresponding package is in the image from which the SDK is created (in the case of -c populate_sdk) |
| 10:06.36 | bluelightning | jackmitchell: or alternatively if you explicitly add them to TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK |
| 10:06.48 | bluelightning | hi mago_ |
| 10:07.29 | jackmitchell | bluelightning: so I do have alsa in my image, but the alsa-dev package is manually specified in the bb so I'm wondering if the logic is a bit wonky |
| 10:08.25 | bluelightning | well the logic boils down to a direct name mapping; if there is no package called "alsa" then "alsa-dev" won't be included |
| 10:08.45 | bluelightning | we could perhaps change the package naming so that that does happen |
| 10:09.44 | mago_ | does host distro matter for sstate cache, or is it just arch? my dev machine is running 64-bit Ubuntu, while our build servers are running some Redhat dist (also 64-bit x86). I seems like none of the native tasks are setscene'd, would this be related to the distro difference? I was under the impression that OE is distro agnostic and builds all things from scratch, except for a few basic tools mentioned in |
| 10:09.47 | mago_ | ASSUME_PROVIDED? |
| 10:10.35 | bluelightning | mago_: so, it is mostly distro-agnostic in that it is intended to be able to build on various different host distros |
| 10:10.59 | bluelightning | mago_: the catch with sstate is that we do keep the native parts separate per distro even if the hashes do not change |
| 10:11.50 | bluelightning | the reason for that is whilst you can usually re-use native artifacts containing binaries linked to an older libc on a system with a newer libc, you can't do it in the reverse |
| 10:13.07 | bluelightning | if you know the artifacts are safe to re-use (i.e. the host distro where the artifacts were built has an older libc than the one(s) where you want to re-use them) then you can symlink the native dir(s) within the sstate cache directory |
| 10:13.24 | bluelightning | I'm sure we don't document that well right now... |
| 10:15.26 | mago_ | so as long as our dev machines run a newer version of libc than the build servers, we should be safe to use the build server native cache even on our dev machines? |
| 10:17.04 | bluelightning | newer or the same upstream release of libc, yes |
| 10:17.40 | mago_ | but probably the best idea would be to switch distro on the build server, i guess |
| 10:38.31 | bluelightning | mago_: depends if that's practical in your situation |
| 10:39.02 | bluelightning | mago_: I guess I would say try it on one machine, you're going to find out pretty early whether it's going to work or not |
| 10:39.11 | bluelightning | (for sure that is) |
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| 10:59.22 | Crofton|work | damn, transient build fail in python-lxml |
| 11:01.34 | bluelightning | jackmitchell: actually looking at master it looks like alsa-dev has been replaced by alsa-lib-dev already in the 1.7 development cycle |
| 11:07.33 | jackmitchell | bluelightning: ah, that's what I was going to propse it change too; someone beat me to it :) |
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| 15:28.14 | pespin | Hi, could someone give me some hints on how to add qmake (meta-qt5) to my image sdk? |
| 15:29.28 | pespin | I'm trying to add it by using nativesdk-qtbase to TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK, and then running bitbake -c populate_sdk, but it seems it's not enough |
| 15:29.48 | pespin | qml stuff is getting into the sdk bin path, but no qmake |
| 15:30.50 | woglinde | pespin hm |
| 15:31.09 | woglinde | there was some discussion on the oe ml I think |
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| 15:31.16 | woglinde | please search the archiv |
| 15:31.41 | pespin | woglinde: Ok I will. I've beeng tring to find related stuff but I haven't been able to find a solution yet |
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| 15:40.39 | pespin | woglinde: I think the problem is actually qmake is not being built inside qtbase when you run nativesdk-qtbase (which requires qtbase.inc) |
| 15:40.55 | pespin | then of course it's not set into the sdk destination dir I guess |
| 15:43.10 | woglinde | pespin hm qmake is coverd by dev or tools recipe or so |
| 15:43.27 | woglinde | that you need in your task or image |
| 15:43.49 | pespin | woglinde: well I see a qmake folder with some sources when qtbase is downloaded, so I guess it should be built there, isn't it? |
| 15:44.59 | woglinde | pespin sorry I am not so deep in the qt build, but as I said try to search the package recipe where qmake is include |
| 15:45.02 | woglinde | d |
| 15:46.57 | pespin | woglinde: Ok thanks |
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| 19:20.18 | awozniak | Using oe-core, I'm trying to build meta-toolchain with a native cmake. I've tried both TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append = " cmake " and TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append = " cmake-native " and bothe give me errors. What's the right way to do this? |
| 19:22.06 | kergoth | you want nativesdk-cmake |
| 19:22.17 | awozniak | awesome, thanks kergoth! |
| 19:22.20 | kergoth | np |
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