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| 01:24.04 | jsea | how do i create ./usr/src under [package]/[version] that contains all the sources used to libraries for the package? |
| 01:24.19 | jsea | the package has ./usr/lib but not ./usr/src.. |
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| 06:48.51 | mckoan | good morning |
| 06:49.07 | woglinde | gm |
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| 08:13.28 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 08:23.45 | mckoan | hi bluelightning |
| 08:23.59 | bluelightning | hi mckoan |
| 08:25.24 | woglinde | hi bluelightning |
| 08:25.32 | bluelightning | hi woglinde |
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| 09:40.08 | mago_ | how can I list the licenses used for a deployed image? tmp-eglibc/deploy/licenses only lists per-recipe |
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| 09:55.00 | mago_ | oh, nevermind. found the image-recipe-folder in licenses holds exactly what I need! |
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| 10:11.48 | bluelightning | mago_: you should find a directory there for the image as well |
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| 11:51.31 | gary | Hello All |
| 11:52.24 | Guest70646 | Can i get glibc_2.11.3x bb files on web? |
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| 11:53.15 | bryan_ | Hi |
| 11:53.49 | bryan_ | I want to use glibc-2.11.3 version....can i get recipes for this version? |
| 11:54.01 | bryan_ | with patches |
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| 12:16.23 | bluelightning | bryan_: you keep asking this question but it's rather unlikely you will get a different answer than the one already given |
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| 12:41.43 | mago_ | what is the most common watchdog setup when using embedded Linux? it seems like 99% are using the built-in wdt which is available in the SoC. During the boot process, you either keep the WDT off, or you set a really long timeout. Once the system is up, you let a userspace app configure a shorter timeout and then periodically kick it. What if your customers biggest fear is that runaway code (or a hacker) could bypass the WDT and wants a WDT which ca |
| 12:41.44 | mago_ | nnot be controlled from software (other than kicking it). How would you deal with the situation? With an external watchdog (and a fixed timeout), you'd have to kick it from both U-boot and Linux, and you probably have to do it several times during boot (in non-standard places), before the userspace takes over. It also seems like Linux requires that all WDT drivers implement a start & stop function, which would not be possible in this case. Is an e |
| 12:41.44 | mago_ | xternal non-controllable WDT a really poor design for Linux systems? |
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| 13:25.48 | S_A | Hi |
| 13:26.51 | S_A | I am new to OE porting on ARM. So i have few questions. Hope some of you guys can answer |
| 13:27.12 | rob_w | mago_, well it depends on your watchdog needs |
| 13:27.26 | S_A | How do we sign kernel and BL for a ARM SOC ? |
| 13:27.39 | mago_ | rob_w, basically detect runaway code |
| 13:27.39 | rob_w | if you dont want it , dont use it, if you have sec issues then revise your sec requirenments |
| 13:27.55 | rob_w | mago_, u mean cpu eaters ? |
| 13:28.18 | mago_ | rob_w, yeah, or something that would make the system unresponsive |
| 13:29.10 | rob_w | well so i want high end featured watchdog, doubt that you get a external wdg with ip ping or such |
| 13:29.14 | rob_w | or cpu load tests |
| 13:30.18 | mago_ | well, you can still do the checks in software. the only difference with a external "dumb" watchdog is that you cannot stop it, and you cannot change the timeout period. |
| 13:30.23 | rob_w | S_A, well u talking about a new SOC ? |
| 13:30.56 | rob_w | linux kernel watchdogs do have nowayout features ,, |
| 13:31.34 | rob_w | so once fired , you might never disable it again |
| 13:32.19 | rob_w | and "external" is relative here |
| 13:32.39 | rob_w | i rather want to use the CPU / SOC own watchdog then a simple one |
| 13:32.45 | mago_ | rob_w, only if enabled with the CONFIG_ option. The problem is really the boot up sequence (before Linux comes online). A dumb watchdog will require frequent kicking from the second the system is powered, with a more configurable watchdog you can instead have a long timeout during boot, and then shorten the delay once system is up and operational |
| 13:34.01 | rob_w | well you need to stretch over the acutal kernel load after init your free to kick it anytime in userspace |
| 13:34.29 | rob_w | if that is even not enough, feel free to hack the kernel directly ;-) |
| 13:34.33 | S_A | rob_w: Exynos SoC |
| 13:35.53 | rob_w | S_A, did you get your head around oe / poky etc already ? |
| 13:36.30 | rob_w | i am sure you can find a conf/machine/ANYOTHER.conf and base your work around that |
| 13:38.06 | rob_w | mago_, i cant see the security problem directly .. if the system is compromised already then the wdg is not in charge anyway |
| 13:39.02 | mago_ | rob_w, yeah, thats basically the problem. if it needs to stretch over the entire kernel load (and bootloader stuff), we could be looking at up to 15s or something. |
| 13:39.18 | S_A | rob_w: yes. I did see it & in the process of building it. It will produce a kernel and rootfs. But will it give me signed uboot or signed kernel ? |
| 13:40.02 | rob_w | S_A, dunno about "signed" but basicly yes |
| 13:40.28 | rob_w | mago_, do you feel 15s to be long ? |
| 13:40.30 | S_A | rob_w: i guess I will need to sign them manually for secure booting |
| 13:40.55 | mago_ | rob_w, there seems to be very few external watchdogs with a fixed delay that support this long timeout (most are <1s) |
| 13:41.37 | rob_w | a omap watchdog supports upto 30s for example |
| 13:42.16 | rob_w | those feel to be devices designed for microcontrollers or such |
| 13:45.05 | rob_w | mago_, also i cant imagine a wdg with <1s in a linux system, when you mentioned higher functions, like ping tests, or cpu load tests, |
| 13:45.44 | mago_ | rob_w, ok, thanks. i think you more or less confirm my thoughts on this aswell |
| 13:46.21 | rob_w | well glad help |
| 13:46.36 | rob_w | while waiting my kernel git to sync |
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| 19:27.31 | wakko | hi |
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| 20:07.48 | wakko | i need to build a plugin that depends on the sources of another package, so i have two recipes, but i don't know how one recipe can access the source code of another one, any idea ? |
| 20:09.55 | woglinde | hm just checkout the source again |
| 20:10.10 | woglinde | see other recipes which handles two sources |
| 20:11.26 | woglinde | hm to have the versions in sync you could require plugin-1 and than overwrite each VAR maybe some needs to be set empty |
| 20:11.35 | wakko | woglinde, i thought about it, but how can i guaranty that both recipe will use the same version of the sources ? |
| 20:11.51 | woglinde | than use SOURCES_LIST += to add the sources of your plugin |
| 20:11.52 | woglinde | 2 |
| 20:12.47 | woglinde | try as I said require and override with VAR = |
| 20:12.56 | woglinde | except SOURCES_LIST |
| 20:13.23 | wakko | i don't get it :) |
| 20:13.37 | woglinde | or if you have the recipes in one dir |
| 20:13.46 | woglinde | make a sources.inc of plugin-1 |
| 20:13.54 | wakko | ha |
| 20:13.56 | woglinde | and require this in each other recipe |
| 20:14.27 | wakko | but if you do that you break the PN versioning in sources.inc |
| 20:14.40 | wakko | both packages does not have the same version number |
| 20:14.54 | woglinde | and? |
| 20:15.53 | wakko | and that sucks :) |
| 20:15.58 | wakko | or i did not get it |
| 20:16.57 | woglinde | version is comming from the .bb |
| 20:17.12 | woglinde | just try out what I said |
| 20:17.53 | woglinde | or maybe best is to manually sync the versions |
| 20:20.09 | wakko | :/ |
| 20:21.39 | wakko | let me rephrase, let's say i have daemon_1.0.bb and daemon-plugin_0.2.bb... your idea is to write source.inc that contains daemon SRC_URI to a fixed version and require this .inc in both .bb ? |
| 20:22.28 | woglinde | yes |
| 20:24.09 | wakko | that could be funny if daemon_1.0.bb requires sources-${PN}.inc and daemon-plugin_0.2.bb requires sources-1.0.inc |
| 20:24.16 | wakko | but it looks a bit messy |
| 20:29.44 | Crofton | anyone familiar with X/matchbox? |
| 20:30.00 | Crofton | how can i tell it to reverse the usb mouse in L/R direction |
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| 23:26.07 | Crofton | hmm |
| 23:26.16 | Crofton | I think I need qtsvg |