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| 08:39.07 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 09:45.58 | ant_work | JaMa: hi, I built l-y-t-kexecboot for qemux86 and do_package_qa did not throw errors...neverthless the patch is sent |
| 09:47.50 | JaMa | and included in next build :) |
| 09:47.52 | JaMa | thanks |
| 09:48.06 | JaMa | ah you mean that you weren't able to reproduce it, right? |
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| 09:56.44 | ant_work | no, |
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| 09:56.59 | ant_work | I tried first using sstate from previous arm build |
| 09:57.03 | ant_work | then from scratch |
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| 09:57.26 | ant_work | so basically I did not build qemu's linux-yocto-3.14 |
| 09:58.05 | ant_work | don't spend more time on it, I'll do some tests with 3.16 |
| 09:59.42 | JaMa | I'll report if it still fails in next build |
| 10:00.02 | JaMa | I think it's really from those pkgdata conflicts between both recipes |
| 10:00.14 | JaMa | grep for that error message should reveal what exactly is conflicting |
| 10:00.50 | ant_work | th ename is different and there is no providers conflict, that's the strang ething |
| 10:01.05 | ant_work | argh this sticky 'e' |
| 10:02.01 | ant_work | JaMa: hm.. maybe the modules... |
| 10:02.36 | ant_work | I've seen qemu ends up building default kernel + modules ++ initramfs |
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| 12:03.00 | kroon | It's not a big deal maybe, but ctrl-c during bitbake's "Parsing recipes" in master doesn't seem happy |
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| 12:24.09 | JaMa | kroon: yes, please add your findings in http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/bitbake-devel/2014-July/004941.html thread |
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| 13:23.14 | kroon | JaMa, thanks, not sure I can add anything new though.. |
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| 14:51.46 | beshelto | I'm trying to use something like this to see if the current image I'm building contains gnu tar, but it's not working like I expect it to: |
| 14:51.59 | beshelto | ${@bb.utils.contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'tar', 'has gnu tar', 'does not have gnu tar', d)} |
| 14:53.19 | beshelto | I think I'm misunderstanding how packageconfig works -- can one of you enlighten me? Is there an environment variable that would change if the current image being built contained the 'tar' package? |
| 14:54.13 | rburton | that's not what packageconfig is for |
| 14:54.39 | rburton | PACKAGECONFIG is in the reference manual with a sizable example |
| 14:55.04 | rburton | what do you *actually* want to do? |
| 14:55.59 | beshelto | As part of a change to udev device node caching, I'd like to be able to use an argument with tar (--one-file-system) that only exists in gnu tar. |
| 14:56.19 | beshelto | If gnu tar is not in the image, I'd like to fall back to a less efficient way of doing it (using find). |
| 14:56.48 | beshelto | I'm trying to avoid having to check at runtime. |
| 14:56.58 | rburton | you can only make that determination at image construction time |
| 14:57.01 | kergoth | that's not ideal. what tar is used on the image can change at runtime. the user can install tar after the fact |
| 14:57.10 | kergoth | and it will vary from one image to hte next |
| 14:57.12 | rburton | so you'll probably have to do it at runtime as yeah what kergoth said |
| 14:59.34 | beshelto | As far as checking at runtime, is it safe to just check whether /bin/tar.tar exists (which I can do without forking processes in an init script)? |
| 15:04.28 | kergoth | the fact that it exists doesn't mean that tar links to it, necessarily. it uses update-alternatives, and update-alternatives can technically reconfigure at runtime |
| 15:04.39 | kergoth | a less likely scenario, but definitely could occur |
| 15:05.03 | kergoth | you could recursively resolve the /bin/tar symlink and see what it points to at the end, perhaps? |
| 15:05.05 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 15:06.18 | rburton | does this optimisation really bring much of a gain? |
| 15:06.39 | rburton | (i'm wonder if the device node cache helps at all with current udev) |
| 15:06.46 | kergoth | its a good point |
| 15:07.10 | beshelto | We've found taht the device node cache does help, at least in our use case. |
| 15:08.04 | beshelto | The issue is that we're archiving everything under /dev, which includes things like /dev/cgroup and /dev/shm that we shouldn't be archiving. |
| 15:08.13 | beshelto | Which makes the cache larger that it needs to be. |
| 15:08.55 | beshelto | Excluding these with --one-file-system is ~0.2 seconds faster than using find | tar to do it. |
| 15:09.00 | kergoth | ouch, that does sound problematic. what sort of difference in boot time is there between with and without the cache, out of curiosity? |
| 15:09.29 | beshelto | Not sure off the top of my head -- would have to ask the guy who did the tests when he gets in. |
| 15:09.50 | kergoth | np |
| 15:11.53 | beshelto | Thanks for the help -- I think I'll use readlink -f to do it. |
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| 16:12.39 | RP | kergoth: one thing that continues to bother me is the codeparser cache size. I wish we had a good algorithm to evict things from that :/ |
| 16:26.50 | nerdboy | moin |
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| 18:27.33 | kroon | Great stuff this the new depends checking :) |
| 18:28.27 | kroon | otavio, congrats on the book |
| 18:28.54 | kroon | I'll make sure to order a copy |
| 18:29.39 | kroon | "QA Issue: sed-ptest rdepends on locale-base-ru-ru" |
| 18:31.47 | otavio | :-) nice! |
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| 18:49.59 | kergoth | So, I'd like to get an opinion on something. I've been working, on and off, on breaking up the external toolchain recipe into separate recipes for each thing being set up or extracted from the sysroot, and am curious if that seems like something that makes sense, and if it would make things cleaner. |
| 18:50.54 | kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/meta-sourcery/blob/recipe-split/recipes-devtools/gcc/gcc-runtime-external.bb -- the bbclass uses the FILES variables as explicit lists of what to extract from the sysroot of the external toolchain, and checks multiple paths in the toolchain to locate it |
| 18:51.28 | kergoth | breaking it up makes it easier to opt-in/opt-out of particular external components, and the generic sysroot extraction bits should make it easier to support toolchains other than just the sourcery one |
| 18:52.21 | kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/meta-sourcery/blob/recipe-split/recipes-devtools/gcc/gcc-external-cross.bb symlinks/wraps the toolchain binaries into the cross bindir currently, rather than doing it up front at build start time / config parsed time |
| 18:54.52 | kergoth | Hmm, maybe I should send out an RFC email to solicit thoughts also |
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| 21:30.09 | darknighte | signs out of IRC for the weekend |
| 21:34.58 | ant_home | JaMa: something changed wrt openobex? obexftp fails suspiciously |
| 21:35.04 | ant_home | configure: line 12579: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(OPENOBEX,openobex)' |
| 21:35.12 | ant_home | pkg_config changes? |
| 21:37.49 | JaMa | add pkgconfig inherit |
| 21:42.00 | JaMa | hmm there is pkgconfig already what version are you building and from where? |
| 21:51.24 | ant_home | I'm back |
| 21:51.26 | ant_home | ERROR: Task 5 (/oe/meta-opie/recipes-support/obexftp/obexftp_0.23.bb, do_configure) failed with exit code '1' |
| 21:51.58 | ant_home | iirc I've seen a patch adding pkg_config |
| 21:52.02 | ant_home | checking... |
| 21:53.56 | ant_home | jeez..3 recipes... |
| 21:54.42 | ant_home | totally different flags |
| 21:54.52 | ant_home | well, config options |
| 21:55.00 | ant_home | I have to ask bluelightning |
| 21:56.55 | JaMa | use meta-oe/recipes-connectivity/obexftp/obexftp_0.23.bb |
| 21:57.11 | ant_home | I've added pkgconfig atm |
| 21:58.27 | ant_home | the opie recipes disables more stuff, maybe there is a reason (surely there was long ago) |
| 21:59.19 | ant_home | JaMa: btw, the last dep tests you posted was the last w/out klibc fix I guess? |
| 22:04.24 | JaMa | IIRC, yes without |
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| 22:55.54 | khem | obexftp should be in meta-networking |
| 22:56.09 | khem | and may be utilize some PACKAGECONFIGs |
| 22:56.22 | khem | meta-opie is certainly not right place for it |
| 22:58.56 | ant_home | hi khem |
| 23:01.51 | khem | hi |
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