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| 00:44.36 | kergoth | kroon: true, but it's also pretty rare to have variables that contain shell code but which aren't shell functions :) |
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| 07:19.18 | mckoan | good morning |
| 07:24.41 | koen | mckoan: good morning! Can you have a look at https://github.com/linux4sam/meta-atmel/pull/24 ? |
| 07:25.47 | mckoan | hi koen |
| 07:40.48 | woglinde | hi mckoan |
| 07:44.58 | pompomJuice | I ap trying to pull sneaky tactics with opkg run.postinst... basically I am trying to defer the script till after a runlevel 3 process (android) has started up... |
| 07:45.32 | pompomJuice | the opkg postinst run system however seems to kill my postinst script after 7 seconds or so |
| 07:45.35 | mckoan | hi woglinde |
| 07:46.08 | pompomJuice | will nohup allow me to avoid the kill? |
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| 07:47.44 | pompomJuice | my postinst script basically just sleeps until it detects android |
| 07:47.49 | pompomJuice | using a fork |
| 07:47.52 | pompomJuice | & |
| 07:47.56 | pompomJuice | somehow that fork dies |
| 07:48.16 | koen | can't you order the script after your android thing? |
| 07:48.30 | pompomJuice | uuhm |
| 07:48.31 | koen | or is it difficult to tell when the android thing is ready enough? |
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| 07:48.56 | pompomJuice | it's a strage use case |
| 07:49.01 | pompomJuice | so not OE's fault |
| 07:49.03 | pompomJuice | basically |
| 07:49.16 | pompomJuice | I want to be able to do opkg install "android_app" |
| 07:49.25 | pompomJuice | some android apps require android to be running |
| 07:49.30 | pompomJuice | for example my keyboard app |
| 07:49.46 | pompomJuice | it needs to install and then run some adb commands to enable the keyboard and then select it |
| 07:50.00 | pompomJuice | this can obviously noy happen during image baking |
| 07:50.53 | pompomJuice | so in my opkg postinst script I do what I can then return "exit 1" -> to cause a opkg deferred postinst on that package |
| 07:51.02 | pompomJuice | then when the image boots for the first time |
| 07:51.10 | pompomJuice | those postinsts run very early |
| 07:51.16 | pompomJuice | stupedly early |
| 07:51.24 | pompomJuice | anyway |
| 07:51.29 | pompomJuice | the android starts later |
| 07:51.41 | pompomJuice | so my script forks then sleeps and waits to detect android |
| 07:52.13 | pompomJuice | but it seems after 8 seconds or so opkg postinst script framework decides that the postinst script has run long enough and kills it |
| 07:52.24 | pompomJuice | that last line is a guess |
| 07:52.55 | pompomJuice | since the script just stops running ( I know this since the script logs like this echo "some log" >> /var/log/run.postinst.log |
| 07:55.01 | pompomJuice | if i can make it work I have a system where I have android running ontop of OE (angstrom/rowboat kernel) that you can do "pkg install android_app" which is awesome |
| 07:57.03 | pompomJuice | my current plan is to execute the android detector thread like this --> nohup detect_android_and install & |
| 08:04.37 | pompomJuice | ok so "nohup android_detector_and_installer_forker_sleeper_bash_script &" does not work |
| 08:04.44 | pompomJuice | I need pro |
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| 08:08.39 | koen | pompomJuice: what about the reverse? |
| 08:08.48 | pompomJuice | explain |
| 08:09.05 | koen | pompomJuice: have the android daemon (re)run the affected postinsts |
| 08:09.06 | pompomJuice | I found my problem |
| 08:09.13 | pompomJuice | aah |
| 08:09.15 | koen | (does android have a daemon?) |
| 08:09.16 | pompomJuice | that could work |
| 08:09.37 | pompomJuice | yes it is started with systemd |
| 08:09.56 | pompomJuice | I know that the postinst stuff was changed from 1.5 -> 1.6 |
| 08:10.01 | pompomJuice | moved out of systemd |
| 08:10.12 | pompomJuice | but that is all I know about how that thing works |
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| 08:10.50 | pompomJuice | I could make postinst.service depend on android.service but that just feels wrong... postinst probably has good reason to execute so early |
| 08:10.58 | pompomJuice | basically all I need is the following |
| 08:11.20 | pompomJuice | how can I write a bash script that forks a part of itself that is immune to SIGHUP |
| 08:11.34 | pompomJuice | my last try was terrible |
| 08:11.44 | pompomJuice | nohup somebashfunc & |
| 08:11.47 | pompomJuice | not allowed |
| 08:11.53 | pompomJuice | nohup somescript.sh & |
| 08:11.56 | pompomJuice | now that is allowed |
| 08:14.04 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 08:14.19 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 08:14.23 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 08:14.28 | pompomJuice | howdy |
| 08:14.37 | kroon | kergoth, do we need a ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND[python] = "0" aswell ? Without it I got some warnings about some variable containing tabs. Tracing the warning in bitbake it seemed to come from [func] being set, aswell as [python] ... |
| 08:15.16 | kroon | morning all |
| 08:15.34 | bluelightning | hi kroon |
| 08:15.36 | kroon | I guess no germans are up yet |
| 08:15.44 | bluelightning | kroon: kergoth is US-based |
| 08:15.55 | bluelightning | kroon: but that definitely should not be needed |
| 08:18.50 | ant_work | hi bluelightning, wb |
| 08:18.57 | bluelightning | hi ant_work |
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| 08:24.04 | kroon | bluelightning, we were talking yesterday about why changes in ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND does not trigger rebuilds anymore, now that rootfs creation code lives in lib/oe/rootfs.py |
| 08:24.49 | bluelightning | kroon: we may need to add an explicit dependency to ensure that happens |
| 08:25.26 | kroon | bluelightning, theres a patch on ml adding it to do_rootfs[vardeps]. But that might not be enough |
| 08:25.32 | bluelightning | although if the python code calls d.getVar() to retrieve the value of the variable it ought to be picked up as a dependency |
| 08:26.25 | kroon | hmm, it does |
| 08:27.03 | kroon | well, chris hinted that we might wanna do ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND[func] = "1" , to invoke bitbakes shell parser |
| 08:28.12 | bluelightning | interesting, I wouldn't have thought of that; it might pick up dependencies on other shell functions |
| 08:29.21 | ant_work | bluelightning: btw that rootfs.py seems the one unconditionally polluting images |
| 08:29.47 | bluelightning | ant_work: how did you determine that? any further details? |
| 08:30.14 | ant_work | well, I was nailing this down then some major issues overcome ;) |
| 08:30.52 | ant_work | anyway I was grepping to see where LDCONFIGDEPEND is considered and came there |
| 08:39.28 | bluelightning | ant_work: AFAIK that was a direct translation of the old shell code though |
| 08:40.26 | ant_work | see right after def _run_ldconfig(self), def _generate_kernel_module_deps(self): |
| 08:41.45 | ant_work | there is also some interaction with the kernel-base and kernel-image |
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| 08:51.31 | ant_work | bluelightning: |
| 08:51.32 | ant_work | FILES_kernel-base = "/lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.order /lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.builtin" |
| 08:51.50 | mago_ | woglinde, i tried to get meta-java running the other week. it seems like the Rhino SRC_URI is out of date, do you want a patch? |
| 09:00.45 | woglinde | mago hm |
| 09:00.49 | woglinde | yes |
| 09:01.07 | woglinde | but I do not know when I find the time to merge it |
| 09:01.40 | woglinde | we need a modus in bitbake which can show outdate sources |
| 09:02.04 | mago_ | yeh, i wasn't able to build it successfully either. it failed on the openjdk 7 do_install task for some reason. Is the master suitable going for daisy? |
| 09:02.47 | woglinde | mago I made no tests yet |
| 09:02.50 | mago_ | i think it was unable to stat some j2sdk_image file (or something). i've dropped the java stuff for now |
| 09:02.56 | woglinde | because I do not have the time |
| 09:03.07 | mago_ | yeah, its no problem. i just thought i'd tell you :) |
| 09:03.10 | woglinde | hm that should be fixed |
| 09:04.12 | woglinde | mago yes thanks |
| 09:09.07 | mago_ | i don't have any public git repos so its difficult for me to submit pull requests, but i can send you a patch-file somewhere if you want |
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| 09:37.32 | woglinde | mago why not fork the github repo |
| 09:57.21 | mago_ | yeah, ok, i can do that |
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| 13:24.25 | pompomJuice | I need the uber pro |
| 13:25.01 | pompomJuice | I have tried to pull the following trick in a opkg postinst ---> nohup "$0" "calling_myself" "$@" & |
| 13:25.34 | pompomJuice | The idea was that the postinst script spawns another process that sleeps until it detects that a runlvl 3 program has started... |
| 13:25.53 | ant_work | pompomJuice: I could give you C function example about how to fork, exec and wait, never done in shell, sorry |
| 13:26.03 | pompomJuice | it's working |
| 13:26.10 | pompomJuice | but |
| 13:26.59 | pompomJuice | that scrollbar that opkg makes when firstbooting... waits until my sleeping process (that was forked like described above) dies before continuing... |
| 13:27.04 | pompomJuice | how does it know? |
| 13:27.26 | pompomJuice | why cant I spawn something out of the run.postinst that is completely disconnected from it. |
| 13:27.44 | ant_work | you mean psplash? |
| 13:27.57 | pompomJuice | not sure what that is |
| 13:28.04 | pompomJuice | [ ***] |
| 13:28.19 | pompomJuice | those awesome progress bars when you are on the serial cable |
| 13:28.26 | pompomJuice | with the green [ OK ] |
| 13:28.28 | pompomJuice | etv |
| 13:28.29 | pompomJuice | etc |
| 13:28.49 | pompomJuice | so frustrating |
| 13:28.54 | pompomJuice | I have a chicken egg problem |
| 13:29.43 | pompomJuice | I just cannot make opkg spawn a script that the opkg run postinst framework does not know about |
| 13:30.03 | pompomJuice | it sees that I am spawning new stuff and hence waiting for them to complete |
| 13:30.12 | pompomJuice | I want to hide, but I cant |
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| 13:34.54 | pompomJuice | maybe screen will do the trick |
| 13:35.01 | pompomJuice | somehow |
| 13:39.18 | pompomJuice | or setsid |
| 13:39.22 | pompomJuice | that looks like what I want |
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| 14:00.22 | pompomJuice | so annoying |
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| 14:42.21 | pompomJuice | Does angstrom contain a daemon program? |
| 14:42.49 | woglinde | hm what you mean |
| 14:42.54 | woglinde | like start-stop-daemon? |
| 14:44.41 | pompomJuice | like sysvinit on ubuntu uses daemon |
| 14:44.58 | pompomJuice | basically I am trying to spawn a process that is not killed or controlled though it's parent |
| 14:45.13 | pompomJuice | I am starting to wonder if it is impossible because of security reasons |
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| 14:53.54 | pompomJuice | woglinde, yes like start-stop-daemon |
| 14:54.33 | pompomJuice | Thanks, I see that already works on my device |
| 14:55.45 | ensc|w | pompomJuice: systemd contains a native respawn mechanism |
| 14:55.56 | pompomJuice | I dont want to use systemd |
| 14:56.23 | pompomJuice | I want to spawn a process when opkg does its deferred run.postinstall scripts on first boot |
| 14:56.27 | pompomJuice | a daemon process |
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| 14:58.35 | woglinde | me still wonders why you need a setup steop later |
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| 15:01.52 | heeen | hi |
| 15:02.16 | heeen | so on ubuntu 14.04 64bit my build just complained about missing stubs-32.h |
| 15:02.25 | heeen | compiling for an arm device |
| 15:02.37 | heeen | can someone explain why |
| 15:02.47 | heeen | it complained during building pseudo |
| 15:03.01 | heeen | there was a warning "guessing -m32" |
| 15:03.49 | heeen | does it need those because arm is 32bit or because it did not detect my host correctly |
| 15:04.14 | heeen | I installed libc6-dev-i386 and g++-multilib and that fixed it |
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| 15:21.32 | bluelightning | heeen: I think that is because it saw you have some 32-bit libs installed |
| 15:35.49 | kroon | Reading the bitbake manual.. not sure I get what the difference is between "require/include" and "inherit" |
| 15:37.39 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.20 | kroon | aha |
| 15:39.20 | kroon | so "include <path-to-classes-dir>/foo.bbclass, would basically do the same as "inherit foo" ? |
| 15:39.56 | kergoth | classes get a couple other special pieces of handling, I can't recall offhand if those are tied to 'inherit' or to parsing a .bbclass, probably the latter. e.g. the functionality of EXPORT_FUNCTIONS only works from a class, as bitbake tracks the name of the current class to be able to add the function redirections |
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| 15:41.24 | kroon | I see |
| 15:43.47 | kergoth | EXPORT_FUNCTIONS foo creates a do_foo function which calls <classname>_do_foo. extremely simple, but it lets you name the class implementation prefixed by the class name, so someone overriding the function can still call the original implementation, the way you can call a base class method in an object oriented language (in case you didn't know what it does) |
| 15:43.57 | kergoth | s/foo/do_foo/ |
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| 16:23.22 | RP | kergoth: I'm toying with the idea of letting the code parser recurse into lib/oe since it would save a certain amount of pain with dependency tracking. Any thoughts? |
| 16:23.58 | kergoth | I started on generic handling of that in the signature generation code at one point. It gets messy, but it's definitely something we need |
| 16:24.06 | kergoth | I think we should move in that direction, yeah |
| 16:24.33 | RP | kergoth: next question is whether you've any idea how to make it work cleanly :) |
| 16:24.48 | RP | kergoth: I don't like the sound of the pain you mention :/ |
| 16:24.58 | RP | s/pain/messy/ |
| 16:25.15 | RP | isn't awake enough to think about python function dependencies |
| 16:25.16 | kergoth | I honestly can't remember what all was involved at this point, it's been too long since messing with it :) |
| 16:25.21 | kergoth | nods |
| 16:26.44 | RP | kergoth: my concern is how well the code parser figures out things like the classes and class inheritance we now use in there |
| 16:26.54 | kergoth | I think part of it was trying to cleanly handle all the corner cases: imports, handling import, from foo import bar, in all contexts (including inside functions), tracking changes to PYTHONPATH/sys.path, plus relative imports (to handle those you also need to track the 'current package' we're in), etc. if we're willing to focus specifically on our use case, then it might not be so bad |
| 16:27.07 | kergoth | that's a good point |
| 16:28.10 | RP | way forward is probably to "hardcode" some fixes for rootfs variables for now and put this as a longer term objective I guess |
| 16:29.46 | nerdboy | a raspberrypi B+ ? hadn't seen that one before... |
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