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| 08:52.42 | andre_d | Hi. Is there a way (existing script) to extract all effective SRC_URIs from all the recipes executed? I want to autoamtically tag some of our source trees after certain bitbake runs and was thinking of using the information from buildhistory-collect-srcrevs, but I also need the original repository URLs. |
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| 08:58.17 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 08:58.36 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 08:58.42 | bluelightning | hi koen |
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| 09:15.57 | JaMa | morning |
| 09:17.17 | bluelightning | hi JaMa |
| 09:18.55 | koen | hey JaMa |
| 09:26.18 | JaMa | btw jenkins still busy for next few days: Building recipe: python-elementary (1287/1776) |
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| 09:57.02 | mago_ | i've managed to build images for 2 ARM targets and one x86 target in the same OE tree. Following the first build, the process is very quick, just as if it is re-using packages somehow. I don't understand how that is possible though, between x86 and arm? I understand that it probably doesn't have to re-download much, and it can probably re-use the native tools.. but still, rebuilding all target packages and toolchain should take quite long. Does this happen? |
| 10:06.22 | ant_work | if the targets share the same ARCH the rebuild is very fast, yes |
| 10:07.08 | ant_work | and as you say no d/l and reuse of the -natives is a big speedup for building other ARCHs |
| 10:09.56 | ant_work | ofc this is valid only for little images |
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| 10:22.13 | bluelightning | mago_: did you start from completely clean? or did you do something to clean up a previous build? if the latter, what did you do? |
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| 10:56.37 | kroon | JaMa, running the test-dependencies.sh script ? |
| 10:57.59 | mago_ | bluelightning, well, i did not clean anything. I just did: MACHINE=first bitbake image .. MACHINE=second bitbake image ... MACHINE=third bitbake image |
| 10:58.19 | bluelightning | mago_: I meant before the first run |
| 10:58.27 | mago_ | first run was a completely new tree |
| 10:58.43 | bluelightning | so no sstate-cache then? |
| 11:02.56 | ant_work | I'd say for a core-image-minimal the crosscompiler, eglibc and kernel do take most of buildtime |
| 11:03.05 | mago_ | bluelightning, correct |
| 11:03.42 | bluelightning | then those items should have been rebuilt... |
| 11:04.35 | mago_ | which items? native tools and more? |
| 11:04.52 | bluelightning | no, the cross-compiler, eglibc and the kernel |
| 11:04.59 | mago_ | maybe the target stuff did get rebuilt, im not sure. i was just surprised how fast it completed |
| 11:05.03 | bluelightning | native tools wouldn't need rebuilding |
| 11:05.56 | ant_work | native tols are around 2k tasks iirc |
| 11:06.35 | ant_work | staging them is quick |
| 11:07.15 | JaMa | kroon: yes |
| 11:07.44 | koen | after switching to tmpfs builds pseudo is the largest bottleneck in 1.5, followed by grep and sed |
| 11:07.58 | koen | in 1.6rc pseudo seems to be a lot faster |
| 11:08.10 | mago_ | how much ram do you need to build everything in tmpfs? =) |
| 11:08.49 | koen | I keep sysroots on SSD and sources on spinning rust, 32GB is enough for that |
| 11:09.06 | koen | rm_work helps a lot |
| 11:09.19 | koen | hugs pigz for making sstate so much faster |
| 11:10.00 | bluelightning | koen: oddly when I compared pre-pigz to post-pigz the difference wasn't significant, but maybe it depends on what kind of storage you are using |
| 11:10.19 | mago_ | pigz? |
| 11:10.31 | koen | parallel gzip implementation |
| 11:10.39 | bluelightning | http://zlib.net/pigz/ |
| 11:11.42 | koen | bluelightning: after the first machine a lot off sstate and source tarballs are in the fscache |
| 11:11.53 | koen | so uncompressing is not IO limited in that case |
| 11:12.00 | koen | iostat shows zero IO |
| 11:12.11 | koen | I wish tmpfs would show up in iostat |
| 11:12.19 | bluelightning | ah right, in my case I was dropping caches between tests to get the absolute performance change |
| 11:15.43 | koen | in 1.5 enabling thumb2 didn't change PACKAGE_ARCH, in 1.6 it does |
| 11:16.16 | koen | I hate it when a bugfix causes problems, especially when the bugfix does the right thing |
| 11:16.30 | bluelightning | hmm |
| 11:16.39 | bluelightning | can you pinpoint the fix? |
| 11:16.47 | bluelightning | we should note it in the migration docs |
| 11:16.54 | koen | problably in the tune files |
| 11:17.19 | kroon | Would mounting build/tmp-eglibc/work as a tmpfs partition allow me to try that out, building on tmpfs ? Or is there a documented recommended way ? |
| 11:17.48 | koen | 8e88392 feature-arm-thumb: Fix missing t2 suffix for armv7a MACHINEs |
| 11:17.55 | koen | I think that's the one |
| 11:18.35 | bluelightning | right just saw that too |
| 11:19.33 | bluelightning | "be aware that this will rename lots of feeds" |
| 11:19.34 | bluelightning | indeed |
| 11:22.16 | kroon | 18GB of data under "work", and I use rm_work ... |
| 11:24.25 | JaMa | I'm sorry about the t2 |
| 11:26.04 | JaMa | btw: packagegroups excluding their deps in signature handler are also causing kernel upgrades to fail in do_rootfs (at least here) |
| 11:26.38 | JaMa | it still had runtime dependency on kernel-(image-)3.10.32* after upgrade to 3.14 |
| 11:27.15 | JaMa | in most builds you can be lucky that packagegroup is rebuilt at the same time as kernel upgrade, but sometimes you're not |
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| 12:20.05 | bluelightning | JaMa: don't be, it was a correct fix |
| 12:20.56 | bluelightning | JaMa: we need to have a better way of handling those dependencies, hard one way or another is problematic as we've seen |
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| 12:57.15 | JaMa | bluelightning: I'm still convinced that "rebuilding" packagegroups as TUNE_PKGARCH is less error prone than assuming that all recipes in RDEPENDS will always stay ABISAFE |
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| 13:10.07 | bluelightning | JaMa: and I'm still convinced we should fix the problem properly, or we never will |
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| 14:53.55 | afournier | is it possible to disable update.rc.d ? |
| 14:54.44 | kergoth | Doubtful, unless you want to switch to systemd. Why do you want to? |
| 14:55.02 | afournier | I want to switch to upstart, i am trying to make an upstart layer :) |
| 14:55.44 | afournier | INHIBIT_UPDATERCD_BBCLASS |
| 14:55.49 | afournier | might be the solution... |
| 14:56.11 | kergoth | ah, yes, indeed, that does sound promising. i think that's set by systemd.bbclass or something |
| 14:56.19 | kergoth | i stnad corrected :) |
| 14:58.23 | bluelightning | afournier: I think there are already people using upstart with OE out there |
| 14:58.51 | afournier | i did not find any upstart layer but i did not look too hard for it |
| 14:59.03 | bluelightning | yep, it's in meta-webos |
| 14:59.16 | bluelightning | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=upstart |
| 15:00.30 | afournier | thanks for the link |
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