| 00:02.14 | aport | So the problem I was having was related to chrpath, which can't acommodate larger paths (/lib -> /usr/lib). I changed to patchelf and this succeeded. The kicker is that in this setup, rpath does not need to point to /usr/lib, as /lib is symlinked. I just need to install the packages to /usr/lib... |
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| 08:06.40 | koen | kergoth: fedora is doing it the otherway around, /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin |
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| 12:12.08 | pompomJuice | koen |
| 12:12.37 | pompomJuice | ERROR: ExpansionError during parsing /home/griftw/w/danny/setup-scripts/sources/meta-openembedded/meta-efl/recipes-efl/e17/flame_svn.bb: Failure expanding variable autotools_do_configure: ShellSyntaxError: LexToken(LPARENS,'(',0,0) |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | followed by: |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.38 | pompomJuice | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.04 | pompomJuice | something went wrong |
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| 12:13.44 | pompomJuice | my cmake was doing strange sysroots directory concatination so I decided to oebb.update and seems like we went to yocto 1.5 with error |
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| 12:33.47 | pompomJuice | what is even more bizarre |
| 12:33.53 | pompomJuice | if I do a bitbake -D |
| 12:33.58 | pompomJuice | it then give another file |
| 12:34.05 | pompomJuice | ERROR: ExpansionError during parsing /home/griftw/w/danny/setup-scripts/sources/meta-openembedded/meta-efl/recipes-efl/e17/exalt-client_svn.bb: Failure expanding variable autotools_do_configure: ShellSyntaxError |
| 12:34.08 | pompomJuice | bizarre! |
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| 13:59.18 | pompomJuice | aaarhg I need help |
| 13:59.58 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: branch mismatch perhaps? |
| 14:00.05 | pompomJuice | I have no idea |
| 14:00.23 | bluelightning | well, are you using branch "danny" for all of the layers in your configuration? |
| 14:00.28 | pompomJuice | From what I understand it's a bitbake issue |
| 14:00.36 | pompomJuice | not danny |
| 14:00.44 | pompomJuice | used to be dylan |
| 14:00.47 | pompomJuice | now its dora |
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| 14:01.07 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: well, s/danny/dora/ then |
| 14:01.20 | pompomJuice | the major change is that on setup-scripts inside layers bitbake changed to ref 1.20 |
| 14:01.26 | pompomJuice | thats the biggest change I could see |
| 14:01.43 | pompomJuice | and now I have bitbake malfunctioning on my recipies but I am not sure what this error is |
| 14:02.26 | bluelightning | if this is angstrom's setup scripts it's probably something for koen to look into |
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| 14:02.50 | pompomJuice | this was the old layer -> bitbake,git://github.com/openembedded/bitbake.git,master,c47088a86fd8ad06c1810d04d9537c4cd01e8bef |
| 14:03.05 | pompomJuice | this is the new layer -> bitbake,git://github.com/openembedded/bitbake.git,1.20,HEAD |
| 14:03.17 | pompomJuice | so it went from master to 1.20 |
| 14:04.08 | pompomJuice | looks like python is back on the menu the |
| 14:04.15 | pompomJuice | then* |
| 14:04.46 | pompomJuice | I ahve checked the recipies themselves |
| 14:04.52 | pompomJuice | nothing major |
| 14:05.00 | pompomJuice | they dont even inherit autotools |
| 14:05.24 | pompomJuice | so why its complaining about autotools_do_configure no idea |
| 14:06.03 | pompomJuice | and I have only been baking for a year |
| 14:06.05 | pompomJuice | I am noob |
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| 14:06.30 | pompomJuice | cant handle parse errors and tokens and things |
| 14:06.54 | koen | try deleting cache/bb_codeparser.dat |
| 14:07.01 | koen | that's the cureall for parsing problems |
| 14:07.12 | pompomJuice | on it |
| 14:07.18 | koen | I'm not sure what that file does, but deleting it makes everything better |
| 14:07.21 | bluelightning | koen: is that an unreported bug? |
| 14:07.30 | koen | memory usage goes down from 10G to 1G |
| 14:07.53 | pompomJuice | same issue |
| 14:07.55 | koen | bluelightning: dunno, when I asked around multiple people said "we delete it periodically as well" |
| 14:08.04 | bluelightning | koen: well, I don't... |
| 14:08.31 | bluelightning | point being, if issues like this never get reported, they will never be fixed |
| 14:08.36 | pompomJuice | can I trash the entire cache? |
| 14:09.00 | pompomJuice | nope |
| 14:09.08 | pompomJuice | that also give same problem |
| 14:09.27 | pompomJuice | NOTE: Error during finalise of /home/griftw/w/danny/setup-scripts/sources/meta-openembedded/meta-efl/recipes-efl/e17/exalt-client_svn.bb |
| 14:09.41 | pompomJuice | and many other in that folder |
| 14:09.48 | pompomJuice | they have not been changed recently |
| 14:10.03 | pompomJuice | who moved bitbake to 1.20? |
| 14:10.24 | koen | you need 1.20 for oe-core 1.5 |
| 14:10.31 | pompomJuice | makes sense |
| 14:10.41 | pompomJuice | but those recipies are in meta-oe |
| 14:10.47 | pompomJuice | I ahve not touched them |
| 14:10.52 | pompomJuice | they are yocto1.5 |
| 14:11.03 | pompomJuice | not messing with the layers file |
| 14:11.11 | pompomJuice | I have commented some layers out tough |
| 14:11.15 | pompomJuice | though* |
| 14:11.32 | pompomJuice | that wont be it right? |
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| 14:13.29 | pompomJuice | also removed some in my bblayers |
| 14:14.55 | pompomJuice | stuff like minno |
| 14:15.00 | pompomJuice | and dominion |
| 14:15.07 | pompomJuice | since I don't know what that is |
| 14:18.24 | pompomJuice | wait |
| 14:18.56 | pompomJuice | setup scripts you should me on master/HEAD? |
| 14:19.11 | pompomJuice | to get the latest working angstrom? |
| 14:19.59 | pompomJuice | because there is a angstrom-v2013.12-yocto1.5 aswell |
| 14:20.09 | pompomJuice | and master is 22 behind |
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| 14:32.01 | pompomJuice | noone here knows about a bitbake reset command |
| 14:32.03 | pompomJuice | something like |
| 14:32.10 | pompomJuice | btibake -c cleansstate pseudo |
| 14:32.35 | pompomJuice | that makes it all start over |
| 14:32.51 | pompomJuice | cleansstate on the image is pointless |
| 14:32.56 | pompomJuice | I want a distclean move |
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| 14:36.41 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: completely throwing everything out (if that's what you want) is just a matter of deleting TMPDIR |
| 14:36.49 | bluelightning | or renaming it |
| 14:36.53 | pompomJuice | thats what I will do then |
| 14:36.57 | pompomJuice | perfect |
| 14:37.03 | pompomJuice | that is what I wanted to know |
| 14:37.05 | pompomJuice | I suspected it |
| 14:37.08 | pompomJuice | but I needed confirmation |
| 14:38.55 | pompomJuice | nope |
| 14:38.58 | pompomJuice | zero effect |
| 14:39.23 | pompomJuice | ok so that latest angstrom version must be experiencing difficulty |
| 14:44.27 | bluelightning | koen: are you not seeing this failure at all? ^ |
| 14:44.33 | koen | nope |
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| 14:57.40 | pompomJuice | basically all i did was oebb update |
| 14:57.55 | pompomJuice | I just deleted almost everything |
| 14:58.07 | pompomJuice | but it fails right at the beginning when it is parsing the recipies |
| 14:58.14 | pompomJuice | so it has to be a bitbake issue |
| 14:58.23 | pompomJuice | il look at it tomorrow |
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| 14:58.54 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: which host distro are you using out of interest? |
| 15:00.04 | pompomJuice | Linux ubantu 3.2.0-37-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 15:28:10 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:00.33 | pompomJuice | I did an apt-get upgrade also |
| 15:00.39 | pompomJuice | no effect |
| 15:00.51 | pompomJuice | I am starting over now with just the setup-scripts |
| 15:00.55 | pompomJuice | lets see what happens |
| 15:01.10 | pompomJuice | just cloned it into another directory |
| 15:01.34 | pompomJuice | so you cant get fresher than this |
| 15:01.36 | pompomJuice | and |
| 15:01.59 | pompomJuice | I started doing this 2 montsh ago when I moved our stuff from denzil to dylan |
| 15:02.07 | pompomJuice | so I know kind of what I am doing |
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| 15:03.03 | pompomJuice | just as a side note |
| 15:03.12 | pompomJuice | how could I contribute to the recipies |
| 15:03.29 | pompomJuice | say for example I bumped sqlite3 version |
| 15:03.40 | pompomJuice | could I submit the patch somehere? |
| 15:04.05 | pompomJuice | never really done opensource contribution before |
| 15:06.07 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: we definitely appreciate patches like that (although we typically upgrade core recipes like sqlite ourselves on a regular basis) |
| 15:06.16 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: which Ubuntu release is that though? |
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| 15:06.43 | bluelightning | pompomJuice: this may be of interest: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded |
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| 15:10.14 | pompomJuice | oh |
| 15:10.41 | pompomJuice | I think it was originally Ubuntu 12.03 LTS |
| 15:10.48 | pompomJuice | Desktop |
| 15:12.17 | pompomJuice | I mean 12.04.3 |
| 15:12.26 | bluelightning | ok, so pretty standard then |
| 15:12.48 | pompomJuice | yea |
| 15:12.50 | pompomJuice | nothing fancy |
| 15:13.01 | pompomJuice | I am going home now |
| 15:13.06 | pompomJuice | boss is jumping up and down |
| 15:13.18 | pompomJuice | he wants his image I cannot give it to him |
| 15:13.24 | pompomJuice | thanks for the help though |
| 15:13.31 | pompomJuice | really learnt alot already |
| 15:13.48 | pompomJuice | good to hear from experience ppl then you can use it as facts |
| 15:13.55 | pompomJuice | ive bee guessing mostly |
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| 16:36.37 | Hodapp | so... I just ran bitbake core-image-minimal and it completed successfully |
| 16:36.42 | Hodapp | now, where exactly did it put the image? |
| 16:37.24 | kergoth | tmp/deploy/images/, see also the documentation at yoctoproject.org |
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| 16:46.21 | Hodapp | huh, I would never have guessed to look in 'tmp' for the final product |
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| 16:46.51 | kergoth | yeah, not ideal, tmp implies intermediate artifacts, not output |
| 16:47.05 | kergoth | but we're stuck with it for now |
| 16:47.16 | kergoth | deploy has the output. binary packages, images, etc |
| 16:48.47 | RP | kergoth: wouldn't be that hard to change on a per distro basis I guess |
| 16:48.51 | ndec_ | hi. i need to use COMBINED_FEATURES for my own 'features'. is that ok to do so? I think I need to append ${@base_both_contain("DISTRO_FEATURES", "MACHINE_FEATURES", "xxx", d)} in my distro .conf. should i expect any issue? |
| 16:49.02 | RP | The tmp part, not TMPDIR which would be much harder |
| 16:49.32 | ndec_ | I have features in my distro that require 'machine' support. so my recipe need to test for the feature to be both in DISTRO and MACHINE features. |
| 16:50.07 | kergoth | yeah, moving outside of TMPDIR would be very difficult due to sstate archives, unless we could change it to operate entirely relative to ${TOPDIR} instead, or something |
| 16:52.05 | Hodapp | w00t. kernel ran just fine with qemu. It kernel panicked immediately due to no root FS, but that's probably because I didn't make one |
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| 16:54.12 | kergoth | bitbake core-image-minimal would have given you a rootfs as well as a kernel, though :) |
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| 17:08.21 | Hodapp | kergoth: yes, and I saw the rootfs, but first I wanted to make sure I could boot the damn kernel :P |
| 17:08.41 | kergoth | hehe, fair enough |
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| 17:21.22 | kroon | Should depexp.py use bb.warn/note instead of prints for the error messages ? I'm looking into why bitbake -g -u depex comaplins with "Unable to cleanly stop: No such command" on exit |
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| 20:15.33 | Hodapp | https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded/blob/master/conf/distro/openwrt-sdk.conf . . . "You should install and have in path an SDK from the www.openwrt.org." |
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| 20:15.56 | Hodapp | I built an OpenWrt SDK, but what does "have in path" mean? |
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| 20:18.51 | Hodapp | if it means PATH, I don't see what good that would do, since it's all MIPS binaries, it looks like |
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| 20:34.43 | kroon | Hodapp, I'd guess you have to source the included env-script to setup PATH correctly |
| 20:35.04 | kroon | Hodapp, if the host binaries are not what you expected, maybe you build the SDK for the wrong host ? |
| 20:36.09 | Hodapp | kroon: I haven't tried to build anything yet; I am just wondering what those instructions mean |
| 20:36.17 | khem | Hodapp: thats OE-classic and arcane |
| 20:36.29 | khem | you might not get much mieage on it |
| 20:36.51 | Hodapp | khem: ohhh... I Was just looking around for any sort of information on using OE to build OpenWrt packages |
| 20:36.52 | Hodapp | as I'd read it could be done |
| 20:36.58 | khem | yes it could be |
| 20:37.10 | khem | your best bet is to use 2011.03 release |
| 20:37.37 | Hodapp | ahh, I just checked out oe-core a week or two ago and was building from that |
| 20:37.39 | Hodapp | why 2011.03? |
| 20:37.47 | khem | and yet there might be fewer folks who would have similar setups |
| 20:38.02 | khem | since that was last release out of OE-classic |
| 20:38.15 | khem | and is much stable compared to master/oe-classic |
| 20:38.22 | khem | now a days we use layered model |
| 20:38.40 | khem | where we have oe-core as a small core subset of metadata |
| 20:38.50 | khem | and everyting else is in layers around it |
| 20:39.15 | khem | I have been meaning to create a openwrt distro layer |
| 20:39.45 | khem | but then I see that angstrom is good enough for openwrt platforms so why bother |
| 20:40.50 | Hodapp | angstrom is good enough for openwrt platforms? what do you mean? |
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| 20:43.54 | khem | Hodapp: yes it could generate ipks |
| 20:44.03 | khem | that one could use on openwrt |
| 20:45.23 | Hodapp | good to know |
| 20:45.44 | Hodapp | I'm looking at doing this, but I am also looking at perhaps just using OE to make the system in the first place and not bothering with OpenWrt |
| 20:51.00 | khem | that works too |
| 20:51.11 | khem | I have taken angstrom generated images and booted them |
| 20:51.24 | khem | but it was few years ago |
| 20:52.03 | Hodapp | I guess I'm just trying to see whether OpenWrt for this application is even getting me anything |
| 20:52.27 | Hodapp | it looks like I could get a much more minimal system, and pretty much any package I need, with OE |
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| 20:56.00 | Hodapp | would you happen to have any good references on how to use Angstrom to generate OpenWrt packages? |
| 20:56.51 | khem | well choose close enough machine |
| 20:56.58 | khem | and bitbake the package you need |
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| 20:57.17 | khem | bluelightning: howdy? |
| 20:57.42 | bluelightning | khem: hey |
| 20:57.45 | khem | bluelightning: you pinged me yesterday |
| 20:57.57 | khem | is the ping still valid :) |
| 20:57.58 | bluelightning | right, yes... nm, figured it out |
| 20:58.03 | khem | OK |
| 20:58.26 | bluelightning | basically eglibc-initial failing due to lack of binutils-cross in dylan; but there was a master patch that fixed it |
| 20:58.35 | khem | I see |
| 20:58.46 | khem | yes its sstate related IIRC |
| 20:59.06 | khem | build from scratch always works right ? |
| 20:59.42 | bluelightning | yep, that's the one |
| 21:00.02 | bluelightning | I did wonder if eglibc-initial should explicitly have a DEPENDS on binutils-cross since that also fixes it |
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| 21:01.06 | khem | bluelightning: yes explicit depend is needed |
| 21:01.16 | khem | I added that to kernel as well |
| 21:01.31 | khem | send a patch for eglibc-initial as well |
| 21:01.55 | khem | may be gcc-initial should have the dep too |
| 21:02.06 | khem | and that will fix all bootstrap recipes |
| 21:08.20 | Hodapp | I am trying to find where to start for some basic high-level stuff and the documentation I have found mostly just confuses me... |
| 21:08.37 | Hodapp | if all I'm aiming for is something like "core-image-minimal, but with GCC added to it", where do I start? |
| 21:21.00 | Hodapp | well, I suppose that's a moot point when I can't build gcc... "undefined reference to pass_branch_target_load_optimize1" |
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| 22:27.26 | kroon | Is it possible to append/remove PACKAGECONFIG for a package in distro.conf ? |
| 22:28.01 | kroon | I tried PACKAGECONFIG_append[qtbase] in my distro.conf, but it doesn't seem to bite |
| 22:28.25 | bluelightning | kroon: absolutely... PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qtbase = " something" |
| 22:28.42 | kroon | bluelightning, aha, thanks! |
| 22:45.29 | kroon | and it seems to work EXTRA_OECONF too |
| 22:55.26 | khem | Hodapp: try oe-core directly |
| 23:00.34 | Hodapp | khem: what do you mean? |
| 23:15.45 | khem | Hodapp: I mean use latest |
| 23:16.11 | khem | http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/ |
| 23:16.22 | khem | thats the next generation OE |
| 23:16.28 | khem | core layer |
| 23:16.34 | khem | then you can add layers to it |
| 23:16.39 | khem | as you need |
| 23:16.55 | khem | look at http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layers/ |
| 23:17.02 | khem | for extra stuff you might need |
| 23:20.36 | Hodapp | khem: that's what I'm using already |
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| 23:24.24 | Hodapp | what I'm trying to figure out is "what do I even look up to figure out how to accomplish this?" |
| 23:26.14 | Hodapp | I see a lot of documentation, and I have just no idea where to start |
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| 23:27.52 | kroon | Hodapp, you want to use OE to build just the application for an existing already built image ? |
| 23:28.24 | Hodapp | kroon: I don't care if I have to rebuild the image |
| 23:31.56 | kroon | Hodapp, for a minimal system I'd just go with plain OE and a custom image/distro |
| 23:32.18 | kroon | and not bother with angstroem/openwrt/whatever |
| 23:32.40 | Crofton|work | do you need package feeds? |
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| 23:33.50 | Hodapp | kroon: this is what I'm trying to start out with, but I was interested in how one goes about getting other packages into an image. |
| 23:34.16 | Hodapp | kroon: this is without Angstrom or OpenWrt; all I've done so far is go through 'Getting Started' in the wiki and made core-image-minimal |
| 23:34.45 | kergoth | Hodapp: EXTRA_IMAGE_INSTALL in local.conf (there's commented out info about that in local.cnf.sample or local.conf.sample.extended), or IMAGE_INSTALL in an image recipe (you can copy one to create your own image) |
| 23:34.57 | kergoth | erm, CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL, that is |
| 23:35.52 | Hodapp | so, I would perhaps find the core-image-minimal recipe, copy it, and customize it? |
| 23:36.51 | kergoth | if all you need to do is change what packages go into your filesystem, yep, thats what image recipes are for. best to create your own layer and add it to bblayers.conf, and put the new recipe there, to avoid maintenance headaches |
| 23:37.31 | Hodapp | is there documentation that covers 'layers' and 'recipes' at a high level? |
| 23:40.18 | Hodapp | perhaps I'll start at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Layers_FAQ and hope it's up to date |
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