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| 08:19.42 | oswin_ | Hi, has anyone released a fix for freetype issue in webkit-efl ? |
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| 08:21.41 | oswin_ | or more commonly, is there a place where pending patches can be consulted ? |
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| 08:51.25 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 09:01.53 | oswin | Hi |
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| 09:42.18 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 09:53.33 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 09:53.43 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 09:55.00 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:55.15 | koen | getting dracut working on OE built systems is too easy |
| 09:55.34 | koen | the hardest bit was to install asciidoc from the tarball |
| 09:56.32 | koen | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W-Jtr1gJC5-ILk3ubK1DlWQRPqUCIkSS7Jkzq-SdlXI/edit# |
| 09:56.45 | koen | 3.6M compressed |
| 09:57.04 | koen | I bet ant_work will be very amused at that :) |
| 10:16.32 | ant_work | koen: heh, I've embedded a core-image-base + its modules for fun, was slightly larger but you coluld do much more |
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| 10:55.17 | ant_work | koen: exactly yesterday I've damned a bloody ssd firmware iso needing an old usb wired kb. It was just around 8M uncompressed. The fw are a few Kb... |
| 11:09.12 | koen | aiui you should be able to reflash it from inside linux as well |
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| 11:23.29 | pb_ | morning all |
| 11:23.40 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 11:23.54 | pb_ | hi bluelightning |
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| 12:54.54 | pb_ | heh, I see meta-perl is officially "Maintained". oh well. |
| 13:03.35 | JaMa | :/ I've checked the patchwork/meta-perl bundle and now all patches except 3 are marked as rejected |
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| 13:09.59 | bluelightning | JaMa: I marked the others as rejected FWIW, they weren't ready |
| 13:10.49 | bluelightning | JaMa: pb_: I have emailed Hongxu in response to that pointing at the pending patch queue, he says he has no push access currently |
| 13:11.00 | bluelightning | maybe I should offer to push the patches if he's happy with them... |
| 13:11.33 | pb_ | bluelightning: that does rather beg the question of how he can claim to be maintaining something that he doesn't have commit access to. |
| 13:12.13 | bluelightning | pb_: that is a good question; he's not the only one though, I push patches on behalf of Andrea for meta-initramfs |
| 13:12.37 | pb_ | and/or why he didn't take any steps to do anything about it: he hasn't (afaik) asked for commit access, nor does he seem to have made any effort to set up a repo somewhere else that he could push to. |
| 13:12.49 | pb_ | so, that seems like a bit of a weak story. but anyway. |
| 13:13.19 | bluelightning | I completely agree |
| 13:13.38 | bluelightning | perhaps nobody spelled out the responsibilities of a maintainer; I don't think we have anything written down |
| 13:14.59 | pb_ | yes, that's a fair point, we probably don't. |
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| 13:21.23 | bluelightning | what should he do to request access these days? He is the maintainer, should he just send a request to Michael (who manages the infrastructure), or do we need to nominate him publicly still? |
| 13:22.00 | pb_ | well, I guess it's a bit complex with meta-perl being inside meta-oe |
| 13:22.12 | pb_ | if it was in its own repo, I would say just ask Michael and he should be all set. |
| 13:22.17 | bluelightning | right |
| 13:22.28 | pb_ | but, if giving him access to meta-perl means he gets write access to the whole of meta-oe, I guess the other meta-oe maintainers need to be ok with that. |
| 13:22.35 | bluelightning | right |
| 13:22.46 | bluelightning | I wonder if gitosis provides for per-directory push access control |
| 13:23.24 | bluelightning | er, I mean gitolite |
| 13:23.36 | pb_ | I don't think it can. |
| 13:23.49 | pb_ | afaik, you can restrict per-branch, but not per-subdirectory |
| 13:24.14 | pb_ | oh, actually, it seems you can since v3. |
| 13:24.33 | pb_ | http://gitolite.com/gitolite/vref.html#NAME |
| 13:25.29 | bluelightning | we're using a much older version than that though |
| 13:25.49 | pb_ | ah |
| 13:28.10 | ndec | nice, i didn't know that gitolite had support for that... quite neat. |
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| 13:29.23 | pb_ | so, maybe the answer to the question at hand is that he should ask Michael to set up a new repo for meta-perl and then give him write access to it. afaik, there is no particular benefit in many layers sharing a single repo anyway. |
| 13:29.49 | pb_ | in fact, if you only wanted meta-perl, I can imagine it being a bit of a pain having to clone the whole of meta-oe, so perhaps a separate repo is better anyway. |
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| 13:32.31 | bluelightning | pb_: there has been pushback against doing that in the past... |
| 13:35.01 | pb_ | do you know why? |
| 13:35.06 | pb_ | (or from whom?) |
| 13:36.57 | bluelightning | IIRC the context was a discussion on how to break up meta-oe into more consumable layers |
| 13:37.42 | bluelightning | meta-oe is not allowed to depend upon layers outside of meta-openembedded (perhaps not even any other layers other than OE-Core, I forget what the exact rule was) |
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| 13:38.02 | bluelightning | outside of meta-openembedded and OE-Core, that is |
| 13:38.44 | JaMa | bluelightning: iirc some were ready, at least Hongxu said that they are in e-mail to me, but OK |
| 13:39.11 | pb_ | hm, right. and meta-oe wants to depend on meta-perl, I guess? |
| 13:39.28 | JaMa | pb_: bluelightning: I was talking with khem about his push access, he said (on ELCE) that it's already set and that he asked Hongxu to test it |
| 13:39.45 | pb_ | obviously if the rule is that meta-oe can't depend on anything other than oe-core then the question of where meta-perl goes would seem to be unrelated. |
| 13:40.19 | bluelightning | pb_: I don't think that's the case yet; there are perl recipes in meta-oe that are depended upon by other non-perl recipes in meta-oe though |
| 13:40.26 | bluelightning | nobody's proposed moving them however |
| 13:40.49 | bluelightning | pb_: could be |
| 13:40.58 | bluelightning | JaMa: ok, wasn't aware of that |
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| 13:50.29 | Crofton | I'd go with splitting a collection of layers based on having trouble managing updates for releases |
| 13:50.38 | Crofton | and of course how dependencies work |
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| 15:47.21 | hrw | koen, sgw: regarding pulseaudio/speex thread. My change was over 5 years ago so. At that time we targetted armv5te hardware so no VFP. |
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| 16:36.36 | fray | I'm building dora w/ bitbake 1.20, and I'm getting these: |
| 16:36.39 | fray | WARNING: Duplicate inclusion for /home/mhatle/git/oss/oe-core/meta/recipes-core/eglibc/eglibc-common.inc in /home/mhatle/git/oss/oe-core/meta/recipes-core/eglibc/eglibc-initial.inc |
| 16:36.58 | fray | anyone know if there is a fix for that scheduled to go into the dora branch? |
| 16:44.15 | koen | fray: check the ml, there was a discussion on that this week |
| 16:44.26 | koen | fray: robert said "NO!", RP and JaMa disagreed |
| 16:44.37 | koen | (I disagree as well, but I haven't bothered to email) |
| 16:45.23 | fray | ok, I missed the thread.. I'll look and comment as well.. thanks |
| 16:50.46 | fray | ahh thread is from this morning.. I hadn't read todays stuff.. |
| 16:54.26 | RP | that patch will be going into the branch ;-) |
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| 16:56.12 | fray | ok |
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| 16:57.12 | fray | is working on applying the new changes to meta-selinux (dora first) then updating the master integration... |
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| 17:27.50 | pb_ | grr, poxy bitbake-devel list is member posting only. |
| 17:27.52 | pb_ | stabs mailman |
| 17:32.10 | bluelightning | pb_: you should stab the spammers that make that option a requirement :( |
| 17:32.39 | pb_ | bluelightning: isn't that what we have spamassassin for? |
| 17:33.22 | bluelightning | don't know, but I'm pretty sure the lists have had that option enabled for quite a while |
| 17:33.39 | pb_ | wow, andrei gherzan maintains 94 layers! |
| 17:33.51 | pb_ | he must surely be some kind of machine. |
| 17:34.48 | pb_ | bluelightning: yeah, probably. I don't think I've posted to that list for some time. |
| 17:34.59 | pb_ | possibly I even used to be subscribed to it once upon a time, I dunno. |
| 17:35.30 | bluelightning | pb_: are you by chance coming to FOSDEM this year? |
| 17:36.02 | pb_ | bluelightning: what date is it this year? |
| 17:36.17 | bluelightning | 1 & 2 Feb |
| 17:37.06 | pb_ | that might be possible. I hadn't really thought about it, but I haven't been to a fosdem for several years now and it might be interesting. |
| 17:37.34 | bluelightning | it seems like a good one for meeting up with OE folks |
| 17:37.39 | pb_ | I'll be in california the week after next but I think I fly home on the 25th or something. |
| 17:37.56 | pb_ | I'll have to conduct a delicate negotiation with my wife and see what she thinks. |
| 17:40.05 | bluelightning | ok, fair enough |
| 17:40.21 | bluelightning | I still haven't booked my tickets |
| 17:47.46 | mr_science | moin |
| 17:48.48 | pb_ | righto. I'll let you know if I plan on being there, anyway. |
| 17:49.17 | pb_ | I did take the girls there a couple of years ago. |
| 17:49.36 | bluelightning | cool |
| 17:50.16 | bluelightning | I did create a page on our wiki for the event FYI: http://openembedded.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2014 |
| 17:50.47 | bluelightning | if anyone's going please put your name down in the appropriate section (or ask me and I can do it) |
| 17:53.08 | pb_ | do you know who else from team o{pi}e is planning to attend? |
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| 17:53.36 | bluelightning | I think Crofton|work is going |
| 17:54.29 | mr_science | is anyone going to SCaLE? |
| 17:55.41 | bluelightning | I'm not, FWIW |
| 17:55.55 | pb_ | I don't even know what that is, so I guess I'm not. |
| 17:56.13 | mr_science | the socal linux expo in feb |
| 17:56.22 | mr_science | LA airport hilton |
| 17:56.24 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:56.34 | pb_ | if it was in northern california and in january then I might have done |
| 17:57.02 | mr_science | socal is not that far away... |
| 17:57.38 | mr_science | has a dorm kid in northern california |
| 17:57.56 | pb_ | well, not from northern california, but in february I will be in Europe again. |
| 17:57.57 | mr_science | about a 10 hour drive... |
| 18:02.12 | pb_ | checks eurostar prices for fosdem |
| 18:04.07 | pb_ | ... £65/person, not that awful I suppose. |
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| 18:45.47 | Crofton | bluelightning, I'll add myslef later |
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| 18:55.29 | bluelightning | Crofton: thanks |
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| 20:37.50 | pb_ | florian: are you going to FOSDEM this year? |
| 20:38.39 | florian | pb_: I plan to be there but I'm not 100% sure so far. |
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| 20:53.11 | pb_ | florian: ah right, very good. it looks like I will be going this year as well. |
| 20:53.35 | pb_ | I'm going to bring the girls with me again since Ruth is quite keen to have another trip to Brussels. |
| 21:04.30 | florian | Good idea... |
| 21:05.13 | florian | I'm happy if I manage to go there at all... :) |
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