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| 01:20.25 | Crofton|work | JaMa, awesome job finding interesting corner cases |
| 01:22.19 | JaMa | hehe doing a lot of builds with weird metadata does that for me :) |
| 01:23.07 | JaMa | found 5 more similar cases in private layers |
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| 06:47.49 | pb_ | afternoon all |
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| 09:50.57 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 10:07.34 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 11:33.47 | Sj___ | hii all |
| 11:34.44 | Sj___ | how to WHITELISt the blacklisted module with out changing the actual file? i have used LICENSE_FLAGS_WHITELIST += "commercial_libxdmcp" like this |
| 11:34.58 | Sj___ | don;t know how exactly i should do it!! :-( |
| 11:39.22 | bluelightning | Sj___: libxdmcp doesn't have LICENSE_FLAGS set though does it? |
| 11:42.08 | Sj___ | hm actually in one of our meta-layer they have used PNBLACKLIST[libxdmcp] = ".." but now i need to enable it with out modifying that file.. |
| 11:42.35 | Sj___ | is there any way like PNWHITELIST[] ?? to unblacklist that? |
| 11:43.46 | bluelightning | ah right |
| 11:43.54 | bluelightning | PNBLACKLIST and LICENSE_FLAGS are completely unrelated |
| 11:44.01 | Sj___ | ok |
| 11:44.09 | Sj___ | PNWHITELIST can i use?? |
| 11:44.52 | bluelightning | well, the question is why are you using something that blacklists the recipe if you don't want it blacklisted? are you re-using someone else's distro config? |
| 11:45.30 | Sj___ | yes .. it is some one else distro |
| 11:46.03 | bluelightning | hmm, well when you start wanting to override other people's distro policy then it's time to start thinking about whether using that distro is the right thing vs. creating your own |
| 11:46.09 | bluelightning | but anyway, there is no PNWHITELIST |
| 11:46.24 | bluelightning | you could try PNBLACKLIST[libxdmcp] = "" |
| 11:46.29 | Sj___ | in their layer they have done it. but i'm using there layer on top of it i have created one meta-layer (need to use same distro) with some changes |
| 11:46.49 | bluelightning | well this is the thing, when you change the distro policy it's no longer the same distro really |
| 11:47.49 | Sj___ | ohh ok and one more doubt i have. we have bbappend files for bb files.. what about .inc files? is ther any way we can re config the variables used in .inc files? |
| 11:48.48 | bluelightning | Sj___: no, but you can bbappend each of the .bb files that the .inc file is included in |
| 11:49.07 | Sj___ | ohh ! ok thank you |
| 11:49.20 | Sj___ | so only way fr me to use another distro config |
| 11:49.26 | Sj___ | for my layer!! |
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| 11:51.54 | ensc|w_ | as libexecdir issues were not solved for dora; are there plans to fix them in the next release? |
| 11:53.52 | bluelightning | ensc|w_: which ones still remain? a patch did go in for the sftp + dropbear issue you highlighted |
| 11:54.59 | ensc|w_ | bluelightning: this does not solve the underlying problem that libexecdir must not contain $PN |
| 11:55.17 | ensc|w_ | and this patch breaks my system because it has such a good libexecdir |
| 11:55.34 | bluelightning | ensc|w_: must not contain - why? it's an FHS standard... |
| 11:56.05 | bluelightning | ensc|w_: if it causes specific problems, we should definitely fix those problems |
| 11:56.40 | ensc|w_ | the specific problem is that it must not contain $PN but it does ;) |
| 11:57.10 | bluelightning | ensc|w_: can you explain the problem further? |
| 11:57.26 | ensc|w_ | the dropbear patch is broken because it assumes a fixed path of sftp-server, but this program is installed in ${libexecdir} in the openssh recipe |
| 11:57.50 | rburton | ensc|w_: i actually just dug out my patch to "fix" it |
| 11:58.04 | ensc|w_ | bluelightning: libexecdir must not contain $PN but must be a path which is common across the whole system |
| 11:58.26 | rburton | bluelightning: our libexecdir definition is contrary to every other distro. |
| 11:58.46 | ensc|w_ | debian made the mistake to append the package name in some ancient release and it seems oe adapted it |
| 11:58.46 | bluelightning | rburton: every? then how did it make it into the FHS? |
| 11:59.02 | ensc|w_ | libexexdir is not fhs |
| 11:59.19 | bluelightning | that was the justification for the change IIRC |
| 11:59.32 | rburton | but even debian doesn't do that anymore :) |
| 11:59.38 | bluelightning | argh |
| 11:59.46 | rburton | exactly |
| 11:59.51 | bluelightning | ok I'm not going to argue this because I'm clearly not in posession of the full facts |
| 12:00.04 | bluelightning | talk to Saul, he made the change... |
| 12:00.27 | rburton | i have a branch that cleans up any crazy libexecdir usage (thus the sato-icon-theme patch) and switches it |
| 12:00.31 | rburton | obviously its a non-trivial change |
| 12:00.40 | rburton | well, the change is trivial. the impact isn't. |
| 12:05.19 | Crofton|work | bluelightning, when has that ever stopped anyone from arguing? |
| 12:05.46 | rburton | sounds like the ideal reason for arguing! |
| 12:05.52 | bluelightning | heh |
| 12:05.53 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 12:06.27 | Crofton|work | stupid denian :) |
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| 13:42.16 | pb_ | evening all |
| 13:42.38 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 13:44.21 | bluelightning | JaMa: btw, are you still able to reproduce https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4790 ? |
| 13:46.29 | pb_ | hi bluelightning |
| 13:48.14 | mckoan | I'm trying to add mpd (or mplayer2) to an image but I get an error about ffmpeg license LICENSE_FLAGS_WHITELIST, how could I enable it? |
| 13:48.56 | Crofton|work | yay, no more external toolchain! |
| 13:50.20 | mckoan | LICENSE_FLAGS_WHITELIST += "commercial" seems useless |
| 13:52.08 | JaMa | bluelightning: I'll have to re-try |
| 13:52.11 | mckoan | damn! nevermind, it must go in local.conf not in image file |
| 13:53.35 | JaMa | FYI: meta-qt5 was just updated for 5.2.0 release, but not even build tested yet (it's in jansa/qt5-5.2.0 branch if someone wants to test) |
| 13:53.42 | bluelightning | Crofton|work: well, we still have it, it's just in a separate layer |
| 13:53.53 | Crofton|work | I know |
| 13:54.09 | Crofton|work | but now people will use the layer, which people care about :) |
| 13:54.14 | mckoan | JaMa: do you use it with dora or master? |
| 13:57.39 | JaMa | mckoan: both |
| 13:58.02 | JaMa | but first I'll test it with master |
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| 14:51.13 | ensc|w_ | is anybody builing oe on XFS filesystems (spinning disk)? how is the performance compared to ext4? I have to revert the horribly slow btrfs setup and me wonders which fs is the best for building oe |
| 14:52.01 | koen | ext2 |
| 14:52.09 | koen | or ext4 without journal |
| 14:53.44 | ensc|w_ | mmh... fsck on ext2 is a pain; I will go to ext4 then |
| 14:53.58 | ensc|w_ | perhaps with external journal on a small ssd |
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| 15:23.02 | bluelightning | ensc|w_: way back when I set up my build machine someone recommended I use mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal,extents,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize |
| 15:23.13 | bluelightning | I've been fairly happy with the performance overall |
| 15:24.24 | bluelightning | I also have TMPDIR on a different drive to the rest of the system |
| 15:24.42 | bluelightning | (which is formatted as above; I didn't do anything special with the root partition) |
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| 15:36.49 | fray | I use ext3 or ext4 for all of my builds.. |
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| 15:48.41 | dv_ | ensc|w_: ext4 on an ssd is a good idea anyway because of TRIM |
| 15:49.11 | dv_ | maybe also f2fs |
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| 16:31.02 | ensc|w_ | dv_: plain SSD is too expensive; I have around 10 reference platforms I build oe for. And this across 3 versions (dylan, dora, master). Then customer projects. Per build I calculate 30 GiB space in worst-case (compilation error during qt-embedded ;) ) |
| 16:31.48 | rburton | ensc|w_: rm_work is useful there |
| 16:33.05 | ensc|w_ | rburton: yes; I use this (and rm_work_all). But when bitbake aborts in the middle, there are still a lot of unpacked files |
| 16:33.42 | rburton | true |
| 16:34.24 | ensc|w_ | when build is completed, the tmp needs 5-10 GiB and this is not a problem. But when doing a batch build across the reference platforms I have to calculate 200-300 GiB |
| 16:35.19 | ensc|w_ | I switched to btrfs due to its internal volume manager, but performance is horrible |
| 16:36.45 | ensc|w_ | but thanks for the hints; I will move to ext4 and change my environment to allow tmp to be on an extra partition |
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| 17:24.06 | koen | rburton: even with rm_work I need >80GiB per release |
| 17:25.00 | koen | dv_: be carefull with trim, it can slow down removals a lot when it kicks in |
| 17:26.33 | bluelightning | koen: with how many additional layers ? |
| 17:27.46 | koen | 26 git repos with layers |
| 17:28.00 | koen | 7 architectures |
| 17:28.14 | koen | and that 80GiB is not counting sstate |
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| 20:36.35 | otavio | I am trying to understand why we are using ocf-linux and not cryptodev? |
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| 22:50.21 | jkroon_ | Does Jansa hang around in here ? |
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| 22:52.48 | jkroon_ | otavio, I couldn't resist trying out the new "jansa/qt5-5.2.0" branch in meta-qt5, but it seems the resulting Qt5 pkg-config files have there include and library paths somewhat screwed up I think |
| 22:53.34 | Crofton|work | jkroon_, he does |
| 22:53.42 | Crofton|work | wait martin jamsa? |
| 22:54.13 | jkroon_ | Crofton, Martin Jansa, one of the meta-qt5 layer maintainers |
| 22:54.29 | kergoth | i think he was poking fun at the typo :) |
| 22:54.41 | kergoth | oh, no, i just can't read |
| 22:54.43 | kergoth | rolls eyes |
| 22:55.06 | jkroon_ | aha, "JaMa" was his nick, now I remember |
| 22:55.14 | kergoth | that reminds me, i need to send out the patch to make th consolekit pulseaudio dep conditional, for him |
| 22:55.17 | kergoth | indeed |
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| 23:08.12 | Crofton|work | I wasn't sure about the typo :) |
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