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| 08:51.04 | vadmeste | Hello everybody. Are you using OPKG as your preferred package manager ? I think it is strange how it proceeds to update a package => 1. Delete, 2. Download, 3. Update files... Well what if it removes the package then finds the internet connection is down ? |
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| 09:57.39 | kb__ | How do I disable mirrors in certain recipe? Currently oe constructs some nonsensical mirrors and tries to fetch from them. |
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| 10:08.11 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 10:08.38 | bluelightning | kbart: you can just set PREMIRRORS = "" and MIRRORS = "" in the recipe |
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| 10:11.35 | kbart | Hi bluelightning and thank you for the answer. |
| 10:19.53 | bluelightning | kbart: np |
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| 10:49.50 | Noor | bluelightning: Hello |
| 10:50.30 | Noor | I know the answer to my question will be no but asking coz I wanna make sure |
| 10:51.06 | bluelightning | hi Noor |
| 10:51.11 | Noor | is there a way to include one bb file in another with bbappend applied on included bbfile |
| 10:51.42 | bluelightning | Noor: no, unfortunately not; the two mechanisms operate at different levels within bitbake |
| 10:52.01 | bluelightning | Noor: if you're needing to do that it probably indicates some refactoring of the recipes is needed |
| 10:52.29 | Noor | bluelightning: there is an image file in one layer |
| 10:52.52 | Noor | we have our own image recipe which is including that image recipe |
| 10:53.09 | Noor | and we added bbappend append of the image recipe as well |
| 10:53.46 | Noor | so that bbappend is not added in our image recipe when we include that image recipe in our image recipe |
| 10:56.17 | bluelightning | Noor: is the original image recipe something you're in control of? |
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| 10:57.23 | Noor | bluelightning: if that is possible then I might have added change directly to that recipe instead of creating bbappend :) |
| 10:57.51 | Noor | bluelightning: is it corrent to include bbappend as well just like the original bbfile :) |
| 10:58.04 | Noor | this just came to my mind |
| 10:58.20 | bluelightning | Noor: right, ok :) |
| 10:58.20 | ant_work | hm. Noor, it is possible using two layers |
| 10:58.27 | ant_work | two extra + the original one |
| 10:58.58 | ant_work | bluelightning: we have /meta-initramfs/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto-tiny-kexecboot_3.8.bb |
| 10:59.00 | ant_work | and http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-handheld/tree/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto-tiny-kexecboot_3.8.bbappend |
| 10:59.00 | Noor | ant_work: sorry can you explain a bit |
| 10:59.27 | ant_work | Noor: first .bb requires one recipe in oe-core |
| 10:59.58 | ant_work | thenthere is an infra-layer |
| 11:00.01 | ant_work | then the BSP |
| 11:22.59 | kbart | What is the preferred way to get sources from private repositories (username and password protected) with oe? I have a private repository in BitBucket but can't get it working with https and git credential-cache.. |
| 11:24.12 | kbart | I mean it works all right outside of oe, but I simply fail to integrate it in the build process. |
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| 11:35.05 | ndec | kbart: in my case, our private trees are private git trees, managed/accessed through ssh. we use the ssh:// in SRC_URI, and request users to setup ~/.ssh/config properly (e.g. username and key) |
| 11:36.33 | kbart | Heh, that's exactly what I'm looking at now.. But I prefer certs to username/key. |
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| 11:36.55 | kbart | I somehow missed that BitBucket allows ssh access ;x |
| 11:39.21 | kbart | ndec, could you give an example SRC_URI with ssh? All recipes I'm looking into use svn+ssh.. |
| 11:39.54 | ndec | sure. one sec. |
| 11:41.06 | ndec | kbart: SRC_URI = "git://git.linaro.org/path/project.git.git;protocol=ssh" |
| 11:41.54 | ndec | the key thing is to use git:// even though it is ssh, git:// prefix here tells bitbake 'this is git stuff', then protocol field is used to decide how to fetch. |
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| 11:46.45 | kbart | ndec, thanks a lot, looks like it's gonna work at last. It took me few hours of googling already. Getting error now but that's OK as I still need to set up keys. |
| 11:47.28 | ndec | kbart: ok. you need to connect at least once outside of OE to make sure that the host is added in ~/.known_hosts, or you need to configure to skip the check. |
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| 12:57.26 | kbart | Grr, still stuck with that SRC_URI in my recipe.. I need resulting URL in form of git@alias:accountname/reponame.git (as stated in https://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=271943168), for example, git@BitBucket:user/kernel.git. Is it possible to achieve this without writing custom do_fetch function? |
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| 13:23.51 | Crofton|work | bluelightning, I started the bot so you can use meetbot for the tsc meeting |
| 13:25.01 | JaMa | I'll be probably a bit late for the meeting, but will read backlog later |
| 13:25.37 | bluelightning | Crofton|work: thanks, I'll have to re-figure out how to use it... |
| 13:25.57 | Crofton|work | use #startmeeting |
| 13:26.04 | Crofton|work | that will kick things off |
| 13:26.13 | Crofton|work | also google meetbot |
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| 13:44.53 | abelloni | JaMa: thanks for your answer, it wasn't needed before, is that documented anywhere ? |
| 13:50.28 | JaMa | abelloni: xserver-common? it was always needed |
| 13:52.55 | abelloni | hum, I don't think so |
| 13:53.02 | JaMa | abelloni: sorry you're right, xdg autostart was removed when xinput-calibrator was moved from meta-oe to oe-core |
| 13:53.16 | JaMa | abelloni: ask the person who added it to oe-core if it's documented somewhere |
| 13:55.01 | abelloni | I think there is a real issue |
| 13:55.32 | abelloni | I used to compile core-image-sato with master around mid august |
| 13:55.37 | abelloni | and it was working fine |
| 13:55.43 | bluelightning | abelloni: what's the problem? |
| 13:55.51 | abelloni | now, matchbox is not working |
| 13:56.08 | abelloni | I tracked it down to /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 13:56.42 | abelloni | core-image-sato depends on both xserver-common and x11-common |
| 13:56.48 | abelloni | both provides /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 13:57.01 | abelloni | one of them is buggy |
| 13:57.14 | abelloni | let me check |
| 13:57.59 | bluelightning | sigh |
| 13:58.17 | bluelightning | I wish I'd had time to unravel this xserver-common vs. x11-common business :/ |
| 13:59.11 | abelloni | yeah, the one from xserver-common is definitely buggy |
| 13:59.21 | abelloni | ls -X is sorting by file extension |
| 13:59.33 | abelloni | which is obviously not what you want |
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| 15:56.05 | bluelightning | public TSC/workgroup meeting starting in here in ~5 mins |
| 15:56.15 | bluelightning | all welcome, of course :) |
| 15:56.47 | kergoth | tries to remember what he wanted to bring up in said meeting |
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| 15:59.54 | bluelightning | ~startmeeting |
| 15:59.55 | Crofton-bot | bluelightning: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command. |
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| 16:00.17 | bluelightning | #startmeeting |
| 16:00.17 | Crofton-bot | Meeting started Tue Sep 10 16:00:16 2013 UTC. The chair is bluelightning. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 16:00.17 | Crofton-bot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 16:00.39 | RP | is here... |
| 16:01.33 | fray | is here |
| 16:02.08 | bluelightning | khem: ping |
| 16:02.09 | khem | is here |
| 16:02.14 | bluelightning | heh |
| 16:03.33 | Jefro | good morning all - thanks crofton for starting up meetbot |
| 16:03.59 | fray | first order is finding a meeting chair. |
| 16:04.05 | bluelightning | have pinged koen btw |
| 16:04.06 | Jefro | I'll try to insert topic markers as necessary. The full agenda is at http://pastebin.com/CaRntQDZ |
| 16:04.19 | denix | yeah, all hail to the bot! |
| 16:04.24 | fray | :) |
| 16:04.41 | fray | #topic pick a chair |
| 16:04.46 | fray | (I think I did that right) :) |
| 16:04.46 | rburton | fray: i've a spare chair |
| 16:05.14 | Jefro | fray I think so - crofton would know |
| 16:05.43 | Jefro | actually only chairs can choose #topics |
| 16:05.52 | fray | since there is are volunteers a plenty.. :) I guess I can do it.. :) |
| 16:06.05 | RP | fray: well volunteered :) |
| 16:06.12 | fray | #topic new issues |
| 16:06.34 | fray | I saw one issue (already on the agenda) mentioned on the mailing list(s). Does anyone have anything additional to suggest? |
| 16:06.38 | fray | (question is open for all) |
| 16:07.00 | RP | We could quickly mention default PROVIDES |
| 16:07.21 | fray | sounds like that would be good to mention under the status items |
| 16:07.37 | RP | fine with me |
| 16:07.44 | fray | PACKAGE_EXCLUDE should be mentioned as well.. |
| 16:08.06 | fray | any other new features/changes in the last month that people may have missed? |
| 16:08.13 | RP | _remove ? |
| 16:08.23 | fray | yes that would be good as well.. |
| 16:08.45 | fray | ok.. think about them while we move on.. (if anyone has any additional issues that come to mind, let us know or msg me and I'll make sure it gets addressed..) |
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| 16:09.13 | fray | koen - welcome.. preliminary agenda - http://pastebin.com/CaRntQDZ |
| 16:09.20 | fray | anything to add, otherwise we'll move on to 3.. |
| 16:09.44 | koen | nope |
| 16:09.49 | fray | #topic lingering issues - role of the TSC |
| 16:09.56 | RP | On 3a, the TSC has pinged the board for elections |
| 16:10.07 | fray | can someone refresh our memory where this ended last time and what is left? |
| 16:10.11 | RP | there is also agreement to try and operate in a bit of a different way going forward |
| 16:10.27 | RP | which is what we're doing now |
| 16:11.23 | denix | ack |
| 16:11.25 | RP | So the TSC still exists and is able to make decisions but meets less often and instead nurtures a working group composed of hopefully a wider group of people |
| 16:11.59 | fray | with the working groups as people guiding and doing the work.. with the TSC setting direction, and resolving conflicts should they happen |
| 16:12.13 | bluelightning | I mentioned it in the mailing list post, but in any case we're planning to have these public meetings on a monthly basis |
| 16:12.19 | fray | (maintainers will continue to be the primary resolver of conflicts in given areas fo course) |
| 16:13.24 | fray | so if there are no further comments/questions aboutt hat.. should we discuss working groups or other related items? |
| 16:14.57 | fray | hears crickets.. |
| 16:15.17 | fray | From the proposed agenda, I see references to licensing information as one possible working group.. |
| 16:15.35 | RP | fray: I don't think the intention is to setup specific groups |
| 16:15.45 | RP | more to enable people to come forward to help work on specific issues |
| 16:15.50 | khem | will working groups also update report in this same meeting |
| 16:15.54 | fray | yes sorry.. that is what I meant.. |
| 16:15.59 | RP | task force might be a better way of describing it |
| 16:16.21 | fray | one possible group that could become a working group "style" task force.. is the SPDX integration effort that is ongoing by the University of Nebraska, Omaha (I hope I have that right) |
| 16:16.47 | fray | since I've been involved in that group I can give a little bit of status, see if anyoen has any other similar issues to report on.. |
| 16:17.43 | fray | recently the SPDX "support" has been merged into the system, what this support does is allows you to enable additional tasks that farm our licensing requestions to an external server interface. That interface can process the sources, and will return back SPDX formated licensing information for potentially later processing by the end user.. |
| 16:18.18 | fray | could be used for compliance, documentation, etc.. very early in the process still but the work is underway.. if you are interested let me know or Beth (pidge on IRC).. and we can direct you to the work in progress |
| 16:18.24 | khem | is there a common server like ntp servers available for this ? |
| 16:18.49 | fray | khem, that is expected to be part of the design.. the server will have an interface into fossology for processing as well as a database cache of already processed sources |
| 16:20.03 | fray | any other questions on SPDX work? |
| 16:20.22 | khem | OK, will there be a file level granularity option |
| 16:20.24 | khem | for checks |
| 16:20.33 | khem | or package level only |
| 16:20.47 | fray | yes, source file level granularity within the SPDX information, but the SPDX information will be attached to the recipe |
| 16:21.29 | fray | software not yet planned will need to be created to make the transition from the recipe to the package and eventually to a binary bill-of-materials like list.. |
| 16:21.50 | fray | its in the vision, but we need the file / server / database infrastructure first |
| 16:22.49 | fray | ok anyone else working on other similar projects, meta-oe / oe-core sync for example, and have status? |
| 16:24.19 | bluelightning | fray: are we still talking about licensing or other OE-related projects in general? |
| 16:24.27 | fray | other oe projects in general.. |
| 16:24.51 | fray | (there might not be anything further to report at this time) |
| 16:25.06 | Crofton|work | seems like we need to more work getting people to report on their personal projects |
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| 16:25.44 | bluelightning | well, re oe-core / meta-oe overlayed recipes and bbappends, we're down to no bbappends but xserver-nodm-init is still overlayed in meta-oe, and there are a couple of recipes in meta-gnome that overlay recipes in OE-Core that I discovered the other day |
| 16:25.45 | fray | I'm not sure personal projects as much as things that are likely to benefit others, or affect a wider range of OE.. |
| 16:25.48 | RP | FWIW there are now meta-darwin and meta-mingw layers which support building the cross-canadian bits for those OSs |
| 16:26.08 | Crofton|work | I am looking for overlapping work |
| 16:26.18 | RP | I also fixed the fortran bits in master. Not sure what to do with the horrible hack I needed to make it build though |
| 16:26.40 | bluelightning | the layer index at http://layers.openembedded.org received an update the other day, with a new navigation structure, some additional info and now indexes OE-Classic for reference |
| 16:26.47 | RP | why I fixed fortran I have no idea, it should have died 20 year aho |
| 16:26.58 | fray | :) |
| 16:27.00 | Jefro | ROFL |
| 16:27.03 | bluelightning | RP: I thought you said you had a soft spot for it? :) |
| 16:27.22 | fray | ok.. unless anyone has anything else like that.. lets move on to eglibc.. |
| 16:27.42 | RP | bluelightning: I can only think I might have been wondering where its soft (weak) spot was to kill it and you misheard? ;-) |
| 16:27.53 | bluelightning | RP: heh perhaps |
| 16:28.06 | rburton | lol |
| 16:28.23 | fray | #topic lingering issues - eglibc |
| 16:28.44 | fray | Khem I defer this one to you.. any progress/plans on the kconfig, eglibc stuff? |
| 16:28.46 | broonie | Fortran is pretty nice for numerical stuff. Not much use otherwise. |
| 16:28.50 | RP | merging back with glibc, main concern is the configuration bits? |
| 16:28.57 | fray | correct |
| 16:29.10 | fray | the configuration bits will cease being maintained in about a years time if I remember right.. |
| 16:29.21 | fray | first step to MAYBE getting it maintained is the work Khem had been doing |
| 16:29.33 | RP | fray: there is no change of getting it into glibc? |
| 16:29.38 | RP | chance |
| 16:30.06 | fray | at this time, I doubt it.. if the code can be improved, it can be brought up on the glibc list.. but be prepared to have your asbestos underwear on |
| 16:30.58 | fray | I know we left the last meeting wondering if anyone was actually using the work as it stands today.. |
| 16:31.21 | fray | if not, trying to either maintain it going forward (or getting it into glibc proper) might turn out to not be worthwhile |
| 16:31.25 | RP | it is used in poky-tiny and I know of people who have used that |
| 16:33.21 | fray | ok.. since there is nothing further.. we'll have to just keep up on this topic as we get closer to ELC-E.. if anyone has any questions, I strongly suggest you voice them on the oe-core and potentially even the eglibc-devel mailing list |
| 16:33.38 | fray | #topic lingering issues - janitor items |
| 16:33.51 | khem | sorry guys my home connection was lost |
| 16:33.56 | khem | with eglibc |
| 16:34.03 | fray | khem, ahh we'll backup then |
| 16:34.07 | fray | #topic lingering issues - eglibc |
| 16:34.25 | khem | I have plans to prepare kconfig patches for glibc |
| 16:34.31 | khem | sometime ELCE timeframe |
| 16:34.50 | khem | since eglibc will have its last release in 2.19 |
| 16:35.09 | khem | and from 2.20 onwards it will have to merge all eglibc changes into glibc |
| 16:35.39 | fray | ok.. that matches what I thought.. |
| 16:35.46 | fray | ok.. back to the next topic |
| 16:35.50 | RP | khem: thanks for working on that |
| 16:35.55 | fray | #topic lingering issues - janitor items |
| 16:36.15 | fray | passes this to Bluelighting as I think he was leading the Janitor discussion a bit before |
| 16:36.18 | RP | I think we could really do with getting together a modern up to date list of items |
| 16:36.46 | fray | ya, multiple lists of maybe things to do isn't the best way to coordinate for those who would like to help |
| 16:37.02 | paulbarker | I had an idea for janitor tasks - upgrades of non-critcal recipes. Example: I've been doing recent vim upgrades, 7.4 is now available but it doesn't need to be upgraded urgently |
| 16:37.03 | khem | I think we have consolidated few bbappends from meta-openembedded into core |
| 16:37.10 | khem | that bluelightning for that |
| 16:37.41 | khem | paulbarker: submit the patches if you havent already |
| 16:37.57 | fray | paulbarker ya, general upgrades are definitely janitor items.. as are things like compressing man pages, cleaning up code, etc.. |
| 16:37.59 | RP | paulbarker: I'm pretty sure such patches would be very welcome |
| 16:38.17 | RP | DESCRIPTION/SUMMARY improvements |
| 16:38.24 | paulbarker | I don't have patches yet, it's a way down my todo list |
| 16:38.30 | fray | ya.. right now I think there is a very small group of people doing most of hte upgrades in oe-core.. (others in the other layers).. would be nice if we could get more people involved.. |
| 16:38.31 | bluelightning | I think what we need to do is actually write down a decent list of suggestions for general janitor tasks |
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| 16:38.52 | RP | we do have a category for this in the bugzilla if that helps |
| 16:38.56 | bluelightning | most of these aren't the kind of things that are appropriate for bug reports so they'd have to go into a wiki page |
| 16:39.04 | fray | and an intro page on the wiki: http://openembedded.org/index.php/OpenEmbeddedJanitors |
| 16:40.14 | bluelightning | we do now have a tool in the layer index for editing SUMMARY / DESCRIPTION, that's useful janitor type work |
| 16:40.21 | fray | if we could limit the interfaces to the bugzilla and the wiki it would probably be the best.. wiki for the nebulous things.. and the bugzilla for more concrete items.. |
| 16:40.35 | bluelightning | right, sounds sensible to me |
| 16:40.38 | RP | that sounds good |
| 16:42.35 | khem | wasnt there a tool for recipe code checker |
| 16:42.51 | paulbarker | Having one janitors page may be a good idea - maybe merge the OE and Yocto janitors pages together |
| 16:43.13 | paulbarker | or at least put links to the other on each if they are both needed |
| 16:43.16 | Crofton|work | +1 |
| 16:43.16 | khem | secondly, when writing new recipes I find it useful to use vim plugins that are available in bitbake |
| 16:43.47 | RP | yes, we should pick one wiki and link from the other |
| 16:44.05 | bluelightning | khem: there is recipe_sanity.bbclass but I think that's quite out of date by now |
| 16:44.42 | paulbarker | (on mobile internet so don't wait for replies from me - connection is dodgy) |
| 16:44.43 | koen | right, it has _remove in its methods :) |
| 16:45.55 | bluelightning | koen: RP fixed that I think |
| 16:46.23 | ant_work | about sanity, maybe add some checks on do_compile logs like Gentoo does and emit QA/warning about bad programming practices? |
| 16:46.24 | fray | ok.. so do we have someone (anyone here) that can lead the charge to get the wiki updated and synced? (they don't have to do the work.. just coordinate and ask others to if needed) |
| 16:46.47 | ant_work | I know there is little point, the sources are upstream |
| 16:47.40 | RP | fray: I'm afraid I'm maxed out with the usual patches and review :( |
| 16:47.50 | fray | I am as well.. |
| 16:47.52 | RP | much as I'd like to help :/ |
| 16:48.15 | Crofton|work | anyone can volunteer :) |
| 16:48.31 | paulbarker | I can merge the two into one page and add a link, won't have time to do updating though |
| 16:48.37 | fray | if we don't get anyone to volunteer, then we need to take this to the mailing lists and see if someone not here is willing to step in.. |
| 16:48.54 | fray | paulbarker if you can take the lead on this.. just figure out what needs to be done.. we can beg for resources or help you out.. |
| 16:49.27 | fray | (not what janitor tasks need to be done, but what things to combine, and what others can help with either in wiki edits or gathering tasks) |
| 16:49.52 | fray | won't discourage people from contributing janitor tasks either.. ;) |
| 16:50.02 | bluelightning | paulbarker: would be great if you could send out an RFC for janitor tasks on the OE-Core mailing list |
| 16:50.17 | fray | ok.. 10 minutes left.. I'm going to jump around a bit |
| 16:50.26 | koen | ant_work: insane.bbclass already does a lot of that |
| 16:50.29 | paulbarker | Yea I'll give it a go and post an RFC on the mailing list once they're merged a little |
| 16:50.41 | fray | oe-core status, mention the 4 items in the agenda.. then on to infrasturcture.. back to 4 if there is more time.. |
| 16:50.49 | fray | #topic projects in progress - status - oe-core release |
| 16:51.04 | fray | We're currently in a stabilization cycle, RP? |
| 16:51.08 | RP | The release is coming along but there are a lot of bugs in the bugzilla |
| 16:51.16 | RP | yes, now focusing on bug fixing |
| 16:51.26 | RP | sadly the bug count is rising, not falling |
| 16:51.57 | RP | We're doing what we can with the people available, any more help would be much appreciated |
| 16:52.08 | fray | if someone has a new feature (or one that didn't make it in yet).. estimate for the end of the stabilization cycle, and opening of new development is after ELC-E? |
| 16:52.41 | Crofton|work | do we have an easy way to list the oustanding bugs? |
| 16:52.49 | RP | fray: realistically new features won't get much attention until after then |
| 16:53.08 | RP | Crofton|work: bugzilla and search for open bugs in 1.5 ? |
| 16:53.19 | Crofton|work | as in a link we can publish? |
| 16:53.45 | RP | Crofton|work: you can make a url for any query |
| 16:54.42 | Crofton|work | basically, we should have such a link on the janitor page and publish the lists |
| 16:54.49 | fray | try this: |
| 16:54.51 | fray | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=89293&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ACCEPTED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=WaitForUpstream&version=1.5&version=1.5.1&version=1.5.2&target_milestone=1.5&target_milestone=1.5%20M1&target_milestone=1.5%20M2&target_milestone=1.5%20M3&target_milestone=1.5%20M4&target_milestone=1.5%20M5&target_milestone=1.5.1&target_milestone=1.5.2 |
| 16:55.01 | fray | needs a URL shortener.. :P |
| 16:55.14 | Jefro | should be ok if you put it in a wiki link |
| 16:55.19 | fray | yup |
| 16:55.37 | fray | ok.. noting the clock is running out.. |
| 16:55.38 | RP | Crofton|work: on the yocto wiki we have the bugzilla plugin so you can have a dyanmic table |
| 16:55.47 | fray | default PROVIDES ... |
| 16:55.55 | RP | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Bug_Triage for example |
| 16:56.15 | RP | CUrrently we support "bitbake make-3.82" |
| 16:56.33 | RP | I sent out an patch explaining why this is problematic and that we should probably remove it |
| 16:56.48 | RP | if anyone has any strong feelings, please see that discussion |
| 16:57.07 | fray | sorry to rush.. PACKAGE_EXCLUDE |
| 16:57.37 | fray | recently new functionality that allows you to 'exclude' a package from being installed into the rootfs was added. What this really does is blacklist a package and prevents it (and anything depending on it) from being installed.. |
| 16:58.04 | fray | if a solution can't be found, an error is generated. This is just a piece of the puzzle for the many requests from people to "remove packages" from the rootfs images.. |
| 16:58.28 | fray | Also added were NO_RECOMMENDATIONS, and support for BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS when RPM packaging are enabled.. |
| 16:58.53 | RP | fray: all good improvements... |
| 16:58.57 | fray | NO_RECOMMENDATIONS should create a smaller filesystem by disabling any recommended packages -- note that kernel-modules are often recommended.. so this could cause issues unless you are not careful.. |
| 16:59.22 | fray | BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS previously existed in IPK support, and now does in RPM -- Deb is not supported, if someone can figure out how to make it work, we'd love the patch.. |
| 16:59.23 | denix | nice feature... |
| 16:59.34 | fray | ok.. _remove |
| 16:59.53 | RP | We now support a remove operator like append and prepend |
| 17:00.04 | RP | its the long awaited -= implementation |
| 17:00.29 | Jefro | hears rejoicing in the streets |
| 17:00.33 | RP | the time its evaulated matches append and prepend which is why it wasn't called -= |
| 17:00.35 | fray | :) |
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| 17:00.56 | RP | we also found and fixed a bug in it recently |
| 17:01.12 | RP | so hopefully people will find it useful |
| 17:01.22 | fray | one other oe-core release item just came to mind.. |
| 17:01.27 | fray | PR Server, and processing hangs.. |
| 17:01.38 | RP | ah, we've fixed several of those |
| 17:01.40 | fray | recently a number of PR server issues and initial processing hangs have been corrected |
| 17:01.56 | RP | and massively sped up the PR server |
| 17:01.58 | fray | if anyone gets any hangs or odd behavior from the PR server, we really need to know ASAP.. (preferabbly with reproducers) |
| 17:01.59 | RP | to the point it didn't write any changes to disk, oops :) |
| 17:02.13 | fray | that is a good way to speed it up.. ;) |
| 17:02.16 | RP | that is fixed now and we kept the speedup |
| 17:02.53 | fray | ok.. we are a couple minutes over.. I'd like to get to infrastucture before calling this done.. |
| 17:02.58 | fray | #topic infrastructure |
| 17:03.14 | ant_work | koen: I meant this: an invitation to open a bug upstream http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=60247 |
| 17:03.15 | fray | khem or anyone else.. do you have an infrastructure update? |
| 17:03.33 | bluelightning | Michael has said that the YP-backed infrastructure is about to have significant additional bandwidth added, FWIW |
| 17:03.49 | khem | nothing from me |
| 17:04.16 | fray | do we need to keep the 5a / 5b on the future agendas? or has the oe.org flooding and patchwork spam been dealt with? |
| 17:04.17 | RP | nothing from me |
| 17:04.23 | Crofton|work | if you have any infra issues, please copy the board |
| 17:04.24 | denix | bluelightning: +1 |
| 17:04.29 | RP | we can readd if there are issues |
| 17:04.44 | fray | ok.. we'll remove them.. and re-add if necessary.. |
| 17:04.48 | bluelightning | khem: no word on more general OE autobuilders? |
| 17:05.09 | khem | bluelightning: I think Martin is already using them |
| 17:05.13 | bluelightning | right, I guess Martin does cover a lot of that |
| 17:05.44 | khem | I will check with Tom if we can create a general queue |
| 17:05.55 | khem | but I think if we are able to grok the patchwork |
| 17:06.07 | khem | for incoming patches and launch builds that will do it |
| 17:06.23 | khem | since we keep patchwork clean with meta-openembedded this seems possible |
| 17:06.36 | ant_work | khem: even too much... |
| 17:06.58 | ant_work | khem: patches are almost immediately archived (bundled |
| 17:07.17 | khem | then its already in works |
| 17:07.22 | ant_work | iirc JaMa changed the behavior |
| 17:07.34 | RP | needs to head afk |
| 17:07.41 | fray | same here.. |
| 17:07.44 | denix | ant_work: isn't it good? no queue = no problems :) |
| 17:07.45 | khem | too |
| 17:07.46 | fray | I'm going to need to call a close to the meeting.. |
| 17:08.16 | fray | if you have additional topics, comments, concerns.. please use the mailing lists, or feel free to email the TSC folks and we'll get your comments brought to the group and community at large (if appropriate) |
| 17:08.25 | fray | looks over at jefro on how to close the meeting w/ the bot |
| 17:08.29 | Jefro | excellent meeting folks |
| 17:08.33 | Jefro | crofton-bot has to close it |
| 17:08.34 | Crofton-bot | Jefro: Error: "has" is not a valid command. |
| 17:08.36 | denix | so, what's the schedule for this meeting? |
| 17:08.46 | Crofton|work | who type #startmeeting? |
| 17:08.50 | Jefro | crofton-bot #endmeeting |
| 17:08.50 | Crofton|work | type #endmeeting |
| 17:08.50 | Crofton-bot | Jefro: Error: "#endmeeting" is not a valid command. |
| 17:09.00 | Jefro | crofton has to close it, I can't |
| 17:09.05 | bluelightning | #endmeeting |
| 17:09.06 | Crofton-bot | Meeting ended Tue Sep 10 17:09:05 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 17:09.06 | Crofton-bot | Minutes: oe/2013/oe.2013-09-10-16.00.html |
| 17:09.06 | Crofton-bot | Minutes (text): oe/2013/oe.2013-09-10-16.00.txt |
| 17:09.06 | Crofton-bot | Log: oe/2013/oe.2013-09-10-16.00.log.html |
| 17:09.09 | bluelightning | sorry |
| 17:09.10 | bluelightning | :) |
| 17:09.12 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 17:09.14 | fray | :) |
| 17:09.15 | Jefro | Crofton|work - I think you did ;) |
| 17:09.21 | Crofton|work | bluelightning, did |
| 17:09.26 | Crofton|work | who wants the files? |
| 17:09.36 | fray | jefro needs them for the TSC records.. |
| 17:09.37 | denix | wiki wants them |
| 17:10.01 | Crofton|work | I need to get with ka6sox aobut setting something upI owe him a key |
| 17:10.35 | denix | again, when is the next meeting? |
| 17:10.44 | ka6sox | yup |
| 17:10.46 | ka6sox | I"m waiting :) |
| 17:10.58 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 17:11.16 | Jefro | denix the next meeting will be either 24 sept or 1 oct |
| 17:11.22 | Jefro | the next public meeting, that is |
| 17:11.28 | denix | Jefro: thanks |
| 17:11.30 | Crofton|work | ka6sox, pm we the address to send it to |
| 17:11.47 | ka6sox | sure I will send "we" the address |
| 17:11.58 | denix | :) |
| 17:12.15 | Jefro | you guys are speaking Scottish already |
| 17:12.22 | ka6sox | Aye |
| 17:12.33 | ka6sox | but thats wee |
| 17:12.38 | fray | Jefro, I prefer pirate.. Ar' |
| 17:12.40 | ka6sox | like "wee little dram" |
| 17:13.01 | Jefro | fray what about Scottish pirate? |
| 17:13.13 | fray | Aye Ar' |
| 17:13.13 | ka6sox | expects XorA is laughing about now. |
| 17:13.14 | fray | :) |
| 17:13.41 | rburton | ka6sox: little? disappointing. |
| 17:14.47 | ka6sox | rburton, its early here... |
| 17:14.51 | Crofton|work | ok mails sent |
| 17:14.54 | Crofton|work | I must go ride |
| 17:15.48 | rburton | ka6sox: ok, fair enough |
| 17:16.10 | ka6sox | when the sun is under the yardarm...then we start bending an elbow. |
| 17:16.57 | paulbarker | I need to go change trains. I'll try to be on a real network connection for the next meeting! |
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| 17:50.46 | JaMa | way too late for TSC meeting :/ but got racing license for go karts! :) |
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| 18:10.44 | ka6sox | Crofton|work, ping when you get back |
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| 20:16.48 | pb_ | hi all |
| 20:17.52 | JaMa | hi pb_ |
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| 21:00.56 | XorA | ka6sox: everyone at ELCE should walk into a pub and loudly proclaim "I am a Sassenach and you Jocks owe me a free pint" to claim their free pint! |
| 21:01.49 | ka6sox | XorA, Works for me! |
| 21:03.35 | XorA | *disclaimer, the pint may be comprised of your own blood |
| 21:04.05 | hollisb | googles Sassenach |
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| 21:04.51 | XorA | translate "I am English <rude work for Scots> give me a free pint" |
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| 21:24.48 | RP | XorA: only a pint? |
| 21:25.11 | XorA | RP: :-D |
| 21:27.52 | Jefro | is there a similar word for American? (or is it just "American"?) |
| 21:29.40 | RP | There is a nice Geordie/Scottish word for friend, "hinny". Good one to try down the pub too :) |
| 21:30.02 | RP | The online translations are dubious at best :) |
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| 21:35.27 | XorA | wonders how many fights we can start with dodgy translations |
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