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| 09:23.06 | eren | morning all |
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| 09:37.42 | bluelightning | morning eren, all |
| 09:38.06 | pb_ | hi all |
| 09:38.20 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 09:48.44 | eren | I've packaged ax25 packages to get us started |
| 09:48.56 | eren | aprx, libax25, ax25-{tools,apps} |
| 09:49.04 | eren | now, I need to enable AX.25 configuration in the kernel |
| 09:49.27 | eren | I guess I will need to have another DISTRO layer that provides related kernel config fragment? |
| 09:50.42 | bluelightning | eren: that would be the standard way to do that yes |
| 09:50.50 | pb_ | morning bluelightning |
| 09:51.23 | eren | bluelightning: ok, I'm currently reading kernel development manual. I will create a distribution layer that extends "poky", and that adds ax.25 configuration |
| 09:51.37 | pb_ | heh, does the kernel still actually have ax.25 these days? I thought I remembered that being deleted. |
| 09:53.41 | eren | pb_: sure, why not? :) |
| 09:53.44 | eren | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/8a72f3820c4d14b27ad5336aed00063a7a7f1bef/net/ax25/Kconfig |
| 09:53.46 | zecke | pb_: it is still there. :) |
| 09:53.53 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 09:55.19 | eren | I will make them build as modules, but I'm not sure how I can enable them on startup |
| 09:55.32 | eren | or put them in the image |
| 09:57.46 | bluelightning | eren: presumably your recipes would pull in the module packages using RRECOMMENDS |
| 09:58.40 | eren | ah I see, now I have a bigger problem that ax25-apps didn't compile on qemuarm :) |
| 09:59.34 | pb_ | yeah, I think RRECOMMENDS on the module package is the traditional solution. it's not entirely satisfactory but with our current tooling I don't think it's easy to do anything better. |
| 10:00.47 | eren | hecking for initscr in -lncurses... no |
| 10:00.49 | eren | configure: error: Could not find the ncurses library; aborting |
| 10:00.51 | eren | ops |
| 10:02.07 | bluelightning | I've often wondered about recipes querying kernel config out of STAGING_KERNEL_DIR and warning if required configuration is not enabled... |
| 10:02.21 | eren | how is it possible that it compiled on qemux86, but not on qemuarm |
| 10:02.50 | pb_ | dunno, do you have ncurses in your qemux86 sysroot? |
| 10:03.11 | bluelightning | yes, and check that it's not mistakenly using the host ncurses |
| 10:03.53 | eren | pb_: yeah |
| 10:04.13 | eren | I've first built the image for qemux86, and later I changed MACHINE= variable |
| 10:04.35 | eren | isn't it the usual way for trying the packages/distros for different archs? |
| 10:04.52 | eren | sohuld I start from completely new build directory? |
| 10:05.06 | bluelightning | no, that should be fine |
| 10:05.53 | eren | ok, I've used "bitbake ncurses" |
| 10:05.58 | eren | it seems to build fine afterwards |
| 10:06.25 | bluelightning | does your recipe have ncurses in DEPENDS? |
| 10:07.22 | eren | bluelightning: oh, no |
| 10:07.26 | eren | :) |
| 10:08.59 | eren | thanks |
| 10:10.11 | bluelightning | np :) |
| 10:15.16 | eren | heh, it compiles on arm as well |
| 10:15.24 | eren | I guess I am ready to test it on beagleboard |
| 10:15.39 | eren | after enabling kernel fragments, of course |
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| 13:58.33 | ndec | hi. a coworker here is seeing the following error. anyone knows what can be the cause? it seems to happen only on 1 machine. |
| 13:58.33 | ndec | ERROR: ld.so: object 'libpseudo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
| 13:58.33 | ndec | and some files that are 'root' can be moved because pseudo doesn't work. |
| 13:58.50 | ndec | if that helps, it happens during the build of attr. |
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| 14:12.26 | bluelightning_ | ndec: we've been having reports of this recently, I don't know what the cause is and unfortunately the linux loader doesn't seem to report why it couldn't preload the library |
| 14:12.51 | bluelightning_ | ndec: perhaps prod seebs in #yocto when he comes online later (he's the pseudo maintainer) |
| 14:12.51 | erbo | bluelightning_: I sent an e-mail on the mailing list with a detailed explanation |
| 14:12.59 | erbo | let me find the link |
| 14:13.00 | bluelightning_ | erbo: ah ok I didn't see that |
| 14:14.15 | erbo | ndec, bluelightning_: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-June/080328.html |
| 14:17.00 | erbo | ndec: if you just want a quick fix you can do something like, http://pastebin.com/Cm5uSYLH |
| 14:17.38 | bluelightning_ | could someone open up a bug report for this if there isn't one already? |
| 14:17.59 | bluelightning_ | erbo: thanks for the link, that explains the problem neatly |
| 14:18.16 | erbo | bluelightning_: sure, I'll search for a bug and otherwise file on |
| 14:18.22 | bluelightning_ | erbo: thanks |
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| 14:22.09 | ndec | bluelightning_: but why is it a 'recent' bug. in our case we use dylan branch. |
| 14:24.20 | bluelightning_ | ndec: I'm not exactly sure, at least the situation erbo is describing can only occur with master |
| 14:26.22 | bluelightning_ | ndec: in the past I know it was possible for pseudo to not build correctly if some 32-bit libraries were installed on a 64-bit host |
| 14:26.52 | bluelightning_ | ndec: presumably this is a 64-bit host? |
| 14:28.13 | ndec | yes. |
| 14:29.42 | erbo | bluelightning_: bug created, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4843 |
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| 14:31.58 | erbo | bluelightning: bug created, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4843 |
| 14:32.25 | ndec | tlwoerner: can you please try the quick workaround proposed above, by erbo. |
| 14:32.43 | bluelightning | ndec: I wonder if there is a similar issue with the path |
| 14:33.03 | bluelightning | ndec: tlwoerner: funnily enough when I tried to refresh my memory I came across this: https://plus.google.com/113130211987114395265/posts/PwNbWPbKy1e :) |
| 14:33.58 | bluelightning | erbo: thanks |
| 14:34.18 | ndec | looks like the guy sitting next to me ;-) |
| 14:34.36 | ndec | but the problem is on another coworker machine. |
| 14:34.48 | ndec | running ubuntu. |
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| 16:45.44 | ndec | hrw: hi. when building with linaro-gcc, it doesn't seem to add --with-arch=xxx builtin option. there is no specified when trying xxx-gcc -v. is that expected, or a problem? |
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| 16:51.13 | Crofton|work | I was having a good day until I had to deal with a bank. |
| 16:51.31 | kergoth` | heh |
| 16:52.23 | stefan_schmidt | Crofton|work: I guess it was not about money they offered you, but the other way around? ;) |
| 16:52.40 | Crofton|work | well, we had a second mortage |
| 16:52.59 | Crofton|work | but they clsoed the account a while back for silly reasons |
| 16:53.07 | Crofton|work | so we are refinancing the house now |
| 16:53.18 | Crofton|work | and just found out they still have a Lien on the house |
| 16:53.28 | Crofton|work | and I have to pay them41 usd to release it |
| 16:53.35 | stefan_schmidt | grr |
| 16:53.42 | Crofton|work | basically, I ahve to give them 41 sollars to get my house back |
| 16:54.10 | ynezz | not that bad :) |
| 16:54.15 | bluelightning | you'd wonder what the point of the lien is if it's that small amount of money to release it |
| 16:54.16 | Crofton|work | this is alluded to in the contract, but the process is really painful involving writing letters and sending certified checks |
| 16:54.17 | stefan_schmidt | in general that is not a bad price. ;) But I get what you mean. |
| 16:54.26 | ynezz | could be worse number... |
| 16:54.33 | Crofton|work | well, they will not release it if you owe them money |
| 16:55.09 | Crofton|work | the annoying part is I cannot click on a box on the website and enter a credit card number |
| 16:55.22 | mr_science | moin |
| 16:55.28 | pb_ | sends $41 to crofton's bank and owns his house |
| 16:55.56 | stefan_schmidt | I go for 42 |
| 16:56.00 | ynezz | do I hear $43? |
| 16:56.04 | pb_ | ah, gazumped |
| 16:56.17 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 16:56.34 | stefan_schmidt | Crofton|work: I know this stupid bureaucrats feeling all to well :( |
| 16:57.08 | Crofton|work | all the 41 gets you is a note in a file that says chase no longer cares who owns the house |
| 16:57.45 | stefan_schmidt | I can see how that ruins a good day |
| 16:57.53 | pb_ | oh, drat. would they put a note in their file saying that I own it for $42? |
| 16:58.51 | pb_ | actually, thinking about it, the pound has been depreciating against the dollar lately. not sure I can stretch to $42 after all. |
| 17:00.58 | pb_ | go home now |
| 17:01.00 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 17:01.10 | pb_ | later all |
| 17:01.19 | Crofton|work | it is telling the web site has more info on foreclosure than paying off the loan |
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| 17:02.20 | kergoth` | I need to try a refi myself, our rate is like 6.875% or something |
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| 18:20.11 | mr_science | makes 25 GBs of junk data for test... |
| 18:20.27 | mr_science | good thing our main data partition is ext4 now |
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| 18:34.45 | mr_science | settle back, easy jim... |
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| 19:56.56 | mr_science | too many w's? |
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| 20:49.45 | Crofton|work | I wonder what airport you use for Edinburgh? |
| 20:51.16 | mr_science | the edinburg i used to visit as a kid doesn't have an airport... |
| 20:52.23 | mr_science | had to fly into the next town over... through summer convective activity... in a DC-3... |
| 20:52.40 | Crofton|work | looks like Glasgow |
| 20:53.11 | mr_science | which is, as you may know, essentially "a bunch of airplane parts flying in loose formation" |
| 20:53.45 | mr_science | back to testing... |
| 20:53.50 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 20:53.55 | Crofton|work | I've seen them occasionally |
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