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| 06:21.56 | mks | hi guys, is there any good packages to develop an embedded web server on ARM platform ? |
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| 09:37.11 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 09:50.13 | jackmitchell | mks: I use hiawatha, which is a Web Server; and I use it on ARM, therefore an Embedded Web Server? If you want to develop a web server then you don't really need any packages just get going in C and eglibc |
| 10:10.31 | tasslehoff | JaMa: I'm trying to put together a recipe for nodejs 0.10.2, and have an openssl issue. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/nodejs/D6Xzd4OHV-o/ZJMfJcLLLvMJ mentions it, and also mentions you :) |
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| 10:23.18 | JaMa | tasslehoff: why not start with 0.10.4 recipe I've sent earlier? |
| 10:23.49 | JaMa | tasslehoff: only thing missing is to preserve 0.8 version in recipe with different name for gateone to work |
| 10:24.05 | tasslehoff | JaMa: ah, didn't see that one |
| 10:26.18 | Crofton|work | JaMa, where do we stand on the gnuradio patch? |
| 10:26.38 | Crofton|work | can you override PARALLEL_MAKE on a per recipe basis from local.conf? |
| 10:28.30 | JaMa | Crofton|work: not yet |
| 10:29.07 | JaMa | waiting for more changes before I start new builds |
| 10:29.29 | Crofton|work | k |
| 10:29.33 | Crofton|work | sorry for the pain |
| 10:29.54 | tasslehoff | JaMa: same issue there. |
| 10:31.42 | tasslehoff | JaMa: could this be related to the path length? |
| 10:32.45 | tasslehoff | I have my tree in /home/tas/angstrom-setup-scripts, and from 1.3 to 1.4 I think maybe some other path components have become longer as well. |
| 10:32.50 | JaMa | yes looks like it |
| 10:33.50 | JaMa | locally I have just /OE but on jenkins I have even longer TOPDIR and it was building fine |
| 10:34.00 | JaMa | locally gentoo on jenkins ubuntu |
| 10:35.44 | tasslehoff | If I rename my folder to oe, there is no way to get out of a complete rebuild? |
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| 10:39.30 | JaMa | you can reuse sstate-cache |
| 10:40.20 | JaMa | but it would be better to find out which command is failing with execve |
| 10:40.20 | tasslehoff | JaMa: ok. will test that then. |
| 10:40.28 | tasslehoff | ok. will test that then :) |
| 10:41.50 | Stygia | Hello. I am having a problem creating a new bitbake recipe. I am trying to run a Makefile.PL file after extracting the package, but it seems like bb is unable to locate said Makefile.PL. This is my recipe: http://pastebin.com/uLUzmcLd and this is the error: http://pastebin.com/n1fU8dhr |
| 10:42.02 | Stygia | I have been working on making recipes for a number of CPAN modules I need, I will publish them once I get them actually working. |
| 10:42.38 | tasslehoff | JaMa: not sure how, though. add some verbosity when building? |
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| 10:43.48 | JaMa | tasslehoff: run with -j1 and when it fails heck first command on make -n |
| 10:43.57 | erbo | Stygia: you have MakeFile.PL in recipe, but the file is called Makefile.PL |
| 10:44.23 | Stygia | erbo, Dear gods do I feel foolish now. You are right.... |
| 10:44.45 | erbo | Stygia: the brain usually reads what it expects :) |
| 10:45.03 | bencoh | Stygia: btw, you might want to try inherit cpan |
| 10:45.05 | Stygia | erbo, Yea, it does that quite well. :) Fair point Now I feel slightly less foolish. |
| 10:45.52 | Stygia | bencoh, Oh? We are using Yocto, AFAIK there may be a CPAN in there, but as CPAN installs are somewhat... error-prone at times, we prefer individually installing the packages we need (as opposed to running cpan install). |
| 10:46.12 | bencoh | Stygia: cpan is a bb class |
| 10:46.51 | Stygia | bencoh, So, what I would set as "SECTION"? I am not super familiar with BB, I am trying to get some of my perl scripts to run, which led to this. |
| 10:46.51 | bencoh | (available both in oe-core/meta and the old meta-openembedded) |
| 10:47.28 | bencoh | Stygia: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=d2efac295 as an example |
| 10:48.01 | Stygia | bencoh, What would that accomplish for me? |
| 10:48.20 | Stygia | Not having to actually build the package? |
| 10:48.39 | bencoh | Stygia: it's a recipe |
| 10:48.57 | bencoh | classes are here to help you write recipes : |
| 10:48.58 | bencoh | :) |
| 10:49.19 | erbo | Stygia: the bbclass adds the do_configure and do_install stuff so you don't need to do it manually |
| 10:49.34 | Stygia | ergo, Ah, just as I expected. That's certainly useful. |
| 10:49.36 | erbo | Stygia: look in poky/meta/classes/cpan.bbclass to see what it does |
| 10:49.47 | bluelightning | meta/recipes-devtools/perl/libxml-simple-perl_2.20.bb would be an example recipe |
| 10:50.51 | Stygia | bluelightning, Noted. |
| 10:51.02 | Stygia | This looks interesting. Would make it pretty easy to add CPAN modules. |
| 10:51.24 | Stygia | Does anyone have recommendations for where I should make this available when I finish? Plan to just put it on my public github. |
| 10:51.45 | tasslehoff | JaMa: http://pastebin.com/ndM9Vk9i |
| 10:55.21 | bluelightning | Stygia: hmm... normally I'd suggest meta-oe, but I wonder if this would help us better test perl in OE-Core |
| 10:55.35 | Stygia | bluelightning, Interestingly enough, after modeling my recipe on this example (http://pastebin.com/SG3JGsPw), it still complains about Makefile.PL being unavailable - it is no longer mentioned in my recipe at all. |
| 10:56.09 | bluelightning | Stygia: you'll need ${PV} not {PV} in your value for S |
| 10:56.33 | Stygia | bluelightning, Yea, I just noticed. Damn, this keeps throwing me off with these scripts. |
| 10:56.36 | Stygia | bluelightning, Sorry. |
| 10:58.31 | bluelightning | Stygia: you can drop the DEPENDS now you're inheriting cpan btw, and PR doesn't need to be set to "r0" since that's the default (we're slowly tidying these up in existing recipes) |
| 10:58.36 | bluelightning | Stygia: also if your recipe has _3.28 in the name you won't need to set PV |
| 10:59.00 | Stygia | bluelightning, Hmm, noted. I will slim them down, then. |
| 11:00.53 | ensc|w | are rprovides and rdepends of perl packages calculated by the build systems or must they specified manually? |
| 11:00.54 | Stygia | bluelightning, Which section do you suggest? |
| 11:01.13 | bluelightning | ensc|w: I'm pretty sure it's manual |
| 11:01.31 | JaMa | tasslehoff: is it from rm or ar? |
| 11:01.40 | bluelightning | ensc|w: I know kergoth is working on automatic runtime dependencies for python, but AFAIK nothing exists for perl |
| 11:01.51 | JaMa | does it fail when you run it in your shell manually? works fine here |
| 11:02.31 | bluelightning | Stygia: you mean the value of SECTION ? if so, it's not critical |
| 11:02.45 | JaMa | tasslehoff: well rm is short so probably ar |
| 11:03.56 | bencoh | ensc|w: manual |
| 11:03.59 | ensc|w | bluelightning: ok; last time when I packaged a perl program, it was an horror to get the deps correctly (especially due to different spellings). fwiw, rpm contains tools calculating perl deps/provides |
| 11:04.07 | tasslehoff | JaMa: not following. are you looking at the rm in the clean target? |
| 11:04.12 | bencoh | (I ran into deps hell, so ... definitely manual :p) |
| 11:04.27 | bluelightning | ensc|w: indeed, I had the same pain constructing a recipe for webmin |
| 11:04.48 | bluelightning | ensc|w: yes, we would probably be best advised to interface with that |
| 11:05.35 | bluelightning | ensc|w: the only problem is we can only add runtime dependencies during packaging, which means if they haven't also been built (and they won't be automatically) then you'll get failures when you attempt to include those packages in an image |
| 11:06.19 | bluelightning | (well, I mean we can only add these kinds of runtime dependencies that are calculated based on the source/compiled code at packaging time) |
| 11:06.50 | JaMa | tasslehoff: I'm looking at rm in your paste |
| 11:07.04 | ensc|w | yes; we need some rules to express PROVIDES of perl packages in a common way |
| 11:07.24 | ensc|w | (e.g. libxml-simple-perl vs. perl-xml-simple) |
| 11:08.07 | bluelightning | RPROVIDES, yes |
| 11:08.16 | bluelightning | that still won't ensure the dependencies are built though |
| 11:08.33 | tasslehoff | JaMa: ahh, didn't notice the ar in there until now |
| 11:08.48 | bluelightning | ensc|w: the only way for that to work ultimately is for those dependencies to eventually get added back into the recipe |
| 11:09.33 | tasslehoff | JaMa: works fine in my devshell |
| 11:09.55 | JaMa | tasslehoff: check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1043507 |
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| 11:10.34 | ensc|w | bluelightning: no; I think a common naming in PROVIDES would be enough for build time dependencies. The RPROVIDES and RDEPENDS can be calculated automatically. |
| 11:11.22 | bluelightning | ensc|w: the problem is when can you determine these? if it's not at parse time bitbake cannot know that they need to be built |
| 11:11.42 | JaMa | tasslehoff: maybe you'll need to fix your distro make https://github.com/adobe/webkit/blob/master/Tools/gtk/patches/make-3.82-arg-list-length.patch |
| 11:13.30 | tasslehoff | JaMa: that so it could seem. thanks. |
| 11:13.54 | JaMa | https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?36451 |
| 11:15.23 | ensc|w | bluelightning: it must be done by the packages; for DEPENDS, he has to read the README. The PROVIDES are more complicated indeed. For simple perl packages, they are trivial because they contain only one item. |
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| 11:25.06 | tasslehoff | JaMa: which version of make do you have? didn't you say it worked on your jenkins running ubuntu? |
| 11:25.30 | JaMa | 3.82 with patches |
| 11:26.05 | JaMa | yes ubuntu, but I have no idea what your distro is |
| 11:26.23 | tasslehoff | JaMa: ubuntu 13.04 |
| 11:26.27 | tasslehoff | 64 bit |
| 11:27.41 | JaMa | tasslehoff: have you tried to move this 1 command to separate Makefile to test this theory? |
| 11:29.37 | JaMa | tasslehoff: looks like my TOPDIR on jenkins is actually a bit shorter then yours |
| 11:29.50 | JaMa | /home/jenkins/oe/shr-core |
| 11:31.01 | tasslehoff | JaMa: ok. I'll probably try a rebuild soon. |
| 11:31.11 | tasslehoff | haven't found the line in the Makefile |
| 11:32.58 | JaMa | hmm |
| 11:33.17 | JaMa | you can use the one you copy paster |
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| 11:37.33 | tasslehoff | JaMa: it runs fine in its own makefile |
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| 12:36.02 | tasslehoff | JaMa: worked with /home/tas/oe |
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| 15:45.37 | darknighte | ka6sox-away: what's the URL for the repo? |
| 15:45.52 | darknighte | Crofton|work: hey, you know the URL for the advocacy repo? |
| 15:47.00 | darknighte | denix: same question that I asked Crofton|work ^^^? |
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| 15:47.28 | Crofton|work | no |
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| 16:06.30 | ndec | hi. i am trying to understand PREMIRRORS vs SOURCE_MIRROR_URL, and I don't quite understand why we have both. does anyone know when we should use one vs the other? |
| 16:07.18 | kergoth | ndec: own-mirrors.bbclass adds SOURCE_MIRROR_URL to PREMIRRORS. that's all it is, a convenience, to avoid having to set up your premirrors manually for a simple, common case |
| 16:08.07 | ndec | ok, i see. but own-mirror doesn't seem to prepend, does that mean that it overrides? |
| 16:09.17 | kergoth | it does, but if you use _append or _prepend to alter PREMIRRORS, that will happen after own-mirrors is parsed, as append/prepend is postponed to the end of the parse process |
| 16:11.09 | ndec | ok, thanks. |
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| 16:54.23 | darknighte | Crofton|work: confirmed access to the repo... |
| 16:54.26 | darknighte | see email. |
| 16:54.46 | darknighte | Crofton|work: do we have a current list of action items somewhere? |
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| 21:35.21 | joshc | what's the appropriate procedure to request a change be cherry-picked onto dylan? |
| 21:35.48 | JaMa | joshc: read README |
| 21:36.06 | joshc | JaMa: that's perhaps where I should have started, of course. thanks. |
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| 21:48.24 | Crofton|work | JaMa, I am not sure that is clear |
| 21:49.34 | Crofton|work | gitweb seems to suggest koen for meta-oe? |
| 21:50.44 | Crofton|work | inspecting the commit log suggest ericben |
| 21:53.41 | JaMa | --subject-prefix=meta-oe][dylan][PATCH is important part adding ericben to CC is good too |
| 21:59.57 | Crofton|work | where woudl I find that so I can say the right thing :) |
| 22:00.18 | Crofton|work | maybe my gitweb interface usage is poor? |
| 22:00.44 | Crofton|work | Paul is doing the oe-core stuff, right? |
| 22:00.54 | JaMa | http://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/README?h=dylan#n10 |
| 22:01.03 | JaMa | right |
| 22:01.23 | JaMa | for Paul for oe-core/dylan, Ross for oe-core/danny, eric for meta-oe both |
| 22:02.41 | Crofton|work | gah, OK, I wasn't reading carefully enough |
| 22:03.00 | Crofton|work | we should include the branch maintainer info in the README's |
| 22:03.38 | Crofton|work | is sending the patch the best way to request a cherry-pick, or should we send the git hash? |
| 22:07.02 | JaMa | both work when the hash does apply cleanly |
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| 22:17.15 | joshc | JaMa, Crofton|work: thanks guys |
| 22:17.24 | Crofton|work | np |
| 22:17.46 | Crofton|work | I'm trying to make sure I can answer the question clearly next time |
| 22:18.11 | Crofton|work | especially since I nag the poky crowd about not being clear a bunch :) |
| 22:19.30 | Crofton|work | oe sucks everyone in eventually |
| 22:20.18 | Crofton|work | we must achieve world domination |
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| 22:29.11 | mr_science_ | i'd settle for beer domination... |
| 22:37.51 | JaMa | df -h |
| 22:37.56 | JaMa | ups |
| 22:39.41 | JaMa | with load average: 33.31, 30.59, 29.11 it's easy to type faster, then screen refresh after ^A P :) |
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