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| 09:04.12 | hrw | Crofton|work: thanks |
| 09:04.58 | woglinde | hi hrw |
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| 10:05.22 | ensc|w | mmh... why have images now all the -lic packages? |
| 10:06.45 | ensc|w | JaMa: might this be caused by dc78ef91a2bf01efb8028c9afbe69e506e016265 which checks for 'd.getVar('LICENSE_CREATE_PACKAGE', True)' evaluating to 'True' for every string (including the default "0") |
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| 10:55.30 | mckoan | good morning |
| 10:55.39 | woglinde | hi mckoan |
| 10:55.55 | woglinde | I did not know italy is another timezone *g* ;) |
| 10:56.05 | woglinde | but again universal chattime |
| 10:56.23 | woglinde | morning is after aweking |
| 10:56.43 | mckoan | woglinde: yes it's universal chattime |
| 10:57.11 | woglinde | awake hrms |
| 10:57.22 | woglinde | seems I am till sleepy |
| 10:57.31 | woglinde | damn rain today |
| 10:58.28 | mckoan | woglinde: hete it's worse, yesterday snow today fog |
| 10:59.02 | mckoan | and pollution over top limits :-( |
| 11:01.52 | vadmeste | Hello everybody. I added a bb layer to compile firefox or chrome.. but both of them have compilation error.. any advise? |
| 11:14.45 | JaMa | ensc|w: hmm right, should be false by default |
| 11:30.26 | woglinde | hi jama |
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| 12:07.59 | JaMa | woglinde: hi |
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| 12:37.52 | JaMa | ensc|w: patch on ML |
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| 12:52.01 | hrw | do you know how much memory OE needs to do bitbake? |
| 12:52.13 | hrw | ERROR: ExpansionError during parsing /home/ubuntu/jenkins-setup/meta-linaro/recipes-linaro/images/linaro-image-lamp.bb: Failure expanding variable toolchain_create_sdk_version: ExpansionError: Failure expanding variable METADATA_REVISION, expression was ${@base_detect_revision(d)} which triggered exception OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory |
| 12:52.21 | hrw | 613MB was not enough |
| 12:52.34 | JaMa | check cache/bb-codeparser* |
| 12:52.43 | JaMa | if you have more then one then it eats a lot of MEM |
| 12:54.27 | hrw | one |
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| 12:56.48 | woglinde | hrw h, 4 gig was enough |
| 12:56.58 | woglinde | maybe lower bbthreads? |
| 12:57.12 | hrw | lowered to 2 and restarted |
| 12:57.44 | zecke | woglinde: do you know the state of systemd in oe-core? |
| 12:57.56 | woglinde | zecke should be workable now |
| 12:58.01 | woglinde | with eglibc |
| 12:58.07 | woglinde | did not try with uclibc |
| 12:58.10 | woglinde | again |
| 12:58.23 | woglinde | jama knows more |
| 12:58.28 | woglinde | he is king |
| 12:58.30 | woglinde | *g* |
| 12:58.55 | JaMa | :) |
| 12:59.03 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:59.23 | hrw | 2 bbthreads also out of mem |
| 12:59.32 | JaMa | meta-systemd is still needed to provide .service files for many recipes |
| 12:59.42 | zecke | is busybox-syslogd disabled and only journald enabled? |
| 13:00.03 | JaMa | but systemd recipe itself should work from oe-core (if you don't care about upgrade path) |
| 13:01.15 | woglinde | otherwise it is not that hard to switch back to sysvinit |
| 13:01.30 | woglinde | if you figured out all the variables |
| 13:01.55 | woglinde | and you have to rebuild some packages of course |
| 13:02.08 | stefan_schmidt_w | OE has an upgrade path? ;) |
| 13:02.09 | stefan_schmidt_w | hi folks |
| 13:02.18 | woglinde | hi stefan_schmidt yes |
| 13:02.21 | woglinde | it hase |
| 13:02.29 | hrw | stefan_schmidt_w: moin |
| 13:02.30 | woglinde | if you are distribution |
| 13:02.41 | woglinde | dont forget that |
| 13:02.46 | stefan_schmidt_w | woglinde: i know, i know, just kidding :) |
| 13:02.48 | woglinde | it have |
| 13:02.52 | woglinde | bah |
| 13:02.52 | stefan_schmidt_w | hi hrw |
| 13:03.00 | stefan_schmidt_w | hrw: I will not be at FOSDEM |
| 13:03.07 | hrw | stefan_schmidt_w: happens |
| 13:03.12 | stefan_schmidt_w | hrw: yeah |
| 13:04.45 | JaMa | well it had :) |
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| 13:20.13 | zecke | woglinde: I wanted to look into meta-systemd with OE-core again (i had to stop halfway through) but now that Rails is the new Php i need to do some upgrades of our shop. :} |
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| 13:30.15 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: Nobody wants to do security audits. You know that already. :) |
| 13:31.27 | woglinde | zecke what has your shop do with oe? |
| 13:31.51 | stefan_schmidt_w | woglinde: they share his dev time :) |
| 13:32.30 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: exactly |
| 13:34.28 | woglinde | buy more indians |
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| 13:35.13 | woglinde | hi rsalveti |
| 13:35.22 | zecke | woglinde: well, it would all be better if hipsters used typewriters instead of rails |
| 13:36.58 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: Without hipster there would be no rails -> everyone would use PHP -> you have the security problems there :) |
| 13:37.04 | stefan_schmidt_w | is a bit chatty today |
| 13:37.12 | rsalveti | woglinde: hey |
| 13:37.23 | woglinde | we hear you stefan_schmidt |
| 13:38.09 | ynezz | hm, rails feel like alien to OE (python based) |
| 13:38.20 | ynezz | I would expect djangonauts... |
| 13:38.24 | woglinde | ynezz? |
| 13:38.46 | woglinde | ynezz do you know a sane shopsystem opensource with django? |
| 13:38.58 | ynezz | sane != opensource :) |
| 13:39.05 | woglinde | nah |
| 13:39.07 | ant___ | heh, in a few years OE will rebuild itself in C |
| 13:39.14 | woglinde | ant? |
| 13:39.17 | ant___ | AI |
| 13:39.25 | woglinde | aehm |
| 13:39.31 | ant___ | HAL9000 |
| 13:40.45 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: well, php in itself might not be that bad after all. :} |
| 13:44.52 | woglinde | yes its nearly as old as python |
| 13:46.53 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: agreed, got better over the years. |
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| 13:48.53 | zecke | is in bad mood.. just looked at systemd commits |
| 13:49.15 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=f84190d8cad66f36eef1d851213711244ca297be, "numerous modernizations" |
| 13:49.28 | ynezz | well, another hipster generation product :p |
| 13:49.32 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=69bd386c4c0618d686e1b5ac01c0e9658b1539b6 |
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| 13:50.02 | stefan_schmidt_w | Calling the last one a type fix is funny |
| 13:50.05 | ynezz | typo one is nice |
| 13:50.09 | stefan_schmidt_w | :) |
| 13:50.40 | woglinde | ynezz I like it more than shell sysv foo |
| 13:50.50 | stefan_schmidt_w | That almost look like some of the efl commit message |
| 13:50.54 | woglinde | but of course it should working |
| 13:51.13 | stefan_schmidt_w | I think "oops" is the message with the highest score |
| 13:51.24 | zecke | hopefully Red Hat pays them like the amateurs they are. :} |
| 13:51.31 | ynezz | hm, I wonder what's that _cleanup_free_ stuff |
| 13:51.43 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: They pay in USD. So, yes. :) |
| 13:51.51 | ynezz | seeing it for the first time |
| 13:51.53 | woglinde | zecke its more lack of developement process |
| 13:53.24 | ynezz | ah, those neat gcc attributes |
| 13:54.00 | zecke | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=858c33bf6002bcdbea185ddedde8f8d660afc731 |
| 13:54.04 | zecke | and the next commit to fix it |
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| 13:54.56 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: Lennart has the same style raster has it seems. :) |
| 13:55.19 | ynezz | woglinde: I like openwrt a lot, their uci config system, ubus (micro bus) instead of dbus etc. |
| 13:55.25 | woglinde | ieehks assert |
| 13:55.26 | woglinde | okay |
| 13:56.04 | woglinde | ynezz convert it to oe |
| 13:56.17 | ynezz | I wanted, really |
| 13:56.25 | ynezz | but it's a lot of work :) |
| 13:56.33 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: 8755586eba8b824851f11aa6c3f8f184ed69a30a is another of the fall outs.. |
| 13:56.44 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: and this one has probably even raised a compiler warning... |
| 13:57.02 | zecke | it is such an amateur project.. but he feels like bitching about eudev. |
| 13:57.02 | stefan_schmidt_w | ynezz: I hate openwrt for excatly that reason :) |
| 13:57.37 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: Warnings only help if you look at them. Heros can even ignore errors and still commit :) |
| 13:58.05 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: Stop right now looking through it. Better now before you start crying :) |
| 13:58.25 | woglinde | lack of ci and di |
| 13:58.35 | woglinde | but redhat is no company |
| 13:59.25 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: well, I will use systemd on the BTS.. because right now we have a respawn shell script and this part (thanks to Pengutronix) is nicely solved |
| 13:59.54 | stefan_schmidt_w | zecke: so you want to see it working correctly. I figure. |
| 14:00.01 | stefan_schmidt_w | Still, better stop before crying |
| 14:01.08 | ynezz | stefan_schmidt_w: well, you can't put systemd in 2MB of flash, could you? :) |
| 14:01.20 | ynezz | not to mention dbus... |
| 14:01.52 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=86ed7ec58b9b6a0907bbb3b8d07c930e52915de0 |
| 14:02.03 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: this one is funny.. it looks so wrong. :} |
| 14:02.32 | ynezz | it's copy&paste :) |
| 14:04.32 | woglinde | zecke Pengutronix fixed your script? |
| 14:05.02 | zecke | woglinde: no, they implemented watchdog handling for userspace processes |
| 14:05.20 | woglinde | ah hm |
| 14:05.25 | JaMa | stefan_schmidt_w: "Warnings only help if you look at them. Heros can even ignore errors and still commit :)" ROFL :) |
| 14:05.41 | woglinde | ynezz systemd do needs dbus |
| 14:05.50 | woglinde | ups do not |
| 14:06.20 | zecke | woglinde: systemd needs lidbus (for the marshalling) but this is a sensible design choice |
| 14:06.32 | zecke | stefan_schmidt_w: 6d3a739048deab5c10a0debdad788e19898144cc, another 'typo' fix. *sigh* |
| 14:07.54 | zecke | done with browsing of systemd commits. :) |
| 14:08.14 | JaMa | any idea how simple tar call can cause "OSError: [Errno 7] Argument list too long"? http://paste.debian.net/230086/ |
| 14:08.38 | woglinde | jama underlying fs |
| 14:08.53 | woglinde | xfs is know for not handle path stuff longer 512 bytes |
| 14:09.04 | JaMa | ext4 |
| 14:09.13 | JaMa | and running it in shell works fine |
| 14:09.35 | JaMa | the same with tmpfs on other builder |
| 14:09.46 | woglinde | hm ah no its driffrent here |
| 14:10.27 | woglinde | maybee problem in popen |
| 14:11.13 | woglinde | can you run the tar line on shell |
| 14:11.19 | woglinde | and see whats happens? |
| 14:11.32 | JaMa | 15:09:18 < JaMa> and running it in shell works fine |
| 14:11.32 | JaMa | 15:09:40 < JaMa> the same with tmpfs on other builder |
| 14:11.50 | woglinde | ups |
| 14:11.56 | JaMa | it works correctly license-destdir is copied to dest |
| 14:12.02 | woglinde | then maybee its a problem with popen |
| 14:12.29 | JaMa | yes, lets blame python :) |
| 14:12.55 | JaMa | fwiw: 2.6.3 and 2.7.2 behave the same |
| 14:15.52 | woglinde | jama do you have the line in bitbake at hand? |
| 14:17.23 | woglinde | btw. |
| 14:17.25 | woglinde | http://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html#frequently-used-arguments |
| 14:17.31 | stefan_schmidt_w | Sorry, had a request for pair debugging here :) |
| 14:17.58 | stefan_schmidt_w | ynezz: well, I make it easy for myself. I don't build full linux systems for 2MB. As easy as this for me. :) |
| 14:18.50 | woglinde | *g* |
| 14:22.49 | JaMa | woglinde: trying with debug output added to execute_child in python code |
| 14:23.09 | denisATeukrea | hi woglinde |
| 14:23.55 | denisATeukrea | ynezz, you want to build a rootfs+kernel for a target that has less than 2M? |
| 14:24.48 | denisATeukrea | ynezz, I want to do the same thing.... |
| 14:25.04 | denisATeukrea | but my target is x86 |
| 14:27.50 | ynezz | I don't use OE for such projects |
| 14:28.00 | woglinde | ynezz O.o |
| 14:28.11 | woglinde | we klibc |
| 14:28.14 | woglinde | + have |
| 14:28.22 | woglinde | and I should put dietlibc |
| 14:28.37 | woglinde | over from old oe |
| 14:28.55 | ynezz | I'm lazy bastard, so I like to reuse the stuff as much as I can |
| 14:29.27 | denisATeukrea | ynezz, what do you use? openwrt? |
| 14:29.33 | ynezz | since for such lowend devices I find owrt ideal solution |
| 14:29.46 | denisATeukrea | ok |
| 14:29.57 | woglinde | depends on what you need in the rootfs |
| 14:30.06 | denisATeukrea | just something to boot |
| 14:30.10 | woglinde | ? |
| 14:30.18 | denisATeukrea | like for instance something to replace ipxe |
| 14:30.59 | JaMa | woglinde: no big surprise in execute_child http://paste.debian.net/230092/ |
| 14:31.13 | denisATeukrea | at 2M I think the rootfs is the last concern, the big issue is the kernel size |
| 14:31.37 | ant___ | denisATeukrea: lzma/xz + klibc will do the trick |
| 14:31.51 | ant___ | we are under 1MiB |
| 14:32.09 | denisATeukrea | yes but how much drivers do you have? |
| 14:32.23 | ant___ | all block devices but no net |
| 14:32.42 | denisATeukrea | I need net(ath5k, pc-card, evdev and i915) |
| 14:33.03 | denisATeukrea | s/(/and/ |
| 14:33.11 | woglinde | ah x86 |
| 14:33.13 | woglinde | thats tricky |
| 14:33.15 | woglinde | yes |
| 14:33.17 | denisATeukrea | indeed |
| 14:33.27 | denisATeukrea | + I cannot use the whole 2M |
| 14:33.28 | woglinde | I got qemuarm with net under 900kb |
| 14:33.33 | denisATeukrea | ok |
| 14:33.39 | woglinde | I think |
| 14:33.59 | denisATeukrea | maybe if I put the VGA option rom instead of the i915 and use vesa it would save some space |
| 14:34.19 | woglinde | jama hm |
| 14:34.42 | woglinde | jama why do we need it execute with shell? |
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| 14:36.22 | JaMa | woglinde: for pipes between tars |
| 14:40.16 | woglinde | hm why is python this inefficent with files at this point so we have to use tar |
| 14:40.36 | woglinde | cant we use cpio |
| 14:49.17 | JaMa | don't know.. I've sent all details to ML |
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| 14:54.41 | woglinde | jama hm its only for copying licenses file and preserving owner and rights |
| 14:54.53 | woglinde | why preserve owner |
| 14:54.56 | woglinde | wtf |
| 14:55.21 | woglinde | ah okay |
| 14:55.21 | woglinde | deploy dir |
| 14:55.22 | woglinde | not image |
| 15:00.04 | JaMa | woglinde: and it's in generic sstate-install |
| 15:01.06 | woglinde | I wonder why we do not use the python stuff copying there |
| 15:01.21 | woglinde | we dont have 5 million license files |
| 15:02.22 | JaMa | true but there has to be something else in this particular case |
| 15:02.29 | JaMa | it's not so special to fail so badly |
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| 16:41.59 | mnemoc | meh, glib wants libfffi which lives in recipes-gnome... |
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| 19:54.56 | Shinda | hello |
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| 20:13.09 | otavio | How can I define a python method in a machine config file? |
| 20:13.27 | otavio | I know it seems strange but it is a quite specific need for internal use |
| 20:16.48 | woglinde | hm the doesnt work JDK_ARCH = "${@get_jdk_arch(d)}" |
| 20:17.03 | woglinde | def get_jdk_arch(d): |
| 20:17.38 | otavio | not in a machine conf |
| 20:18.46 | woglinde | hm ah its conf |
| 20:18.51 | woglinde | right |
| 20:18.56 | woglinde | sorry no idea |
| 20:19.01 | XorA | you probably have to delay evaluation |
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| 21:22.19 | mnemoc | hi, does something like http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html but newer exist? |
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| 21:37.55 | sr105 | I found the yocto docs to be the most helpful thusfar. |
| 21:38.38 | mnemoc | sr105: thanks for the pointer, i'll look there |
| 21:39.09 | sr105 | they don't answer all questions, but they're the most complete IMO |
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