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| 08:36.45 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 10:11.25 | JaMa | someone seeing php-native and evolution-data-server failing since yesterday? |
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| 10:20.30 | bluelightning | JaMa: any suggestions on how to handle the cron job in your suggested solution? |
| 10:20.37 | bluelightning | (for ntp) |
| 10:21.44 | JaMa | bluelightning: maybe ntpdate shell wrapper sourcing /etc/default/ntp and showing that echo when servers not defined? |
| 10:22.04 | JaMa | bluelightning: same wrapper could be used from .service/cron as well as manually from cmdline |
| 10:22.49 | bluelightning | yeah that would be the best way, but where to put it? |
| 10:23.37 | mckoan | |
| 10:23.42 | JaMa | is there shared package by both ntpd as well as ntpdate? for /etc/default/ntp ? |
| 10:23.54 | JaMa | wrapper could be in ntpdate package I think |
| 10:24.23 | bluelightning | JaMa: there isn't unfortunately, but this is only needed for ntpdate - ntpd has its own config file which lists the servers |
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| 10:24.41 | bluelightning | by "where to put it" I mean where on the filesystem... |
| 10:24.54 | JaMa | ah maybe new ntpdate-config? |
| 10:25.07 | JaMa | ah /etc/default? it's used in some scripts already |
| 10:25.21 | afournier | sudo wireshark |
| 10:25.26 | afournier | oops |
| 10:26.24 | bluelightning | JaMa: /etc/default/ntpdate for the script that sets the variable, but I don't think that's the right place for a script that performs any action |
| 10:26.43 | JaMa | ah ok, now I understand you :) |
| 10:27.04 | JaMa | just ${bindir}? |
| 10:27.43 | bluelightning | seems like there ought to be somewhere else, but I can't think of any more suitable location... |
| 10:28.21 | JaMa | maybe libexec or something like that? |
| 10:28.39 | JaMa | but if it's supposed to be used manually too then bindir seems better |
| 10:32.09 | ant_work | JaMa: I sent you an e-mail to hear your opinion. If you agree I'd send an RFC |
| 10:35.00 | JaMa | ah I thought it was sent off-list by accident.. |
| 10:35.40 | ant_work | I didn't want to delay them :) |
| 10:35.58 | ant_work | it's generic issue |
| 10:36.05 | JaMa | did you check if some benchmark depends on some lib provided only by meta-oe? if yes then it won't help much to separate benchmark layer |
| 10:36.06 | bluelightning | JaMa: how about ${bindir}/ntpdate-sync? |
| 10:36.14 | JaMa | bluelightning: looks good |
| 10:36.19 | bluelightning | ok, thanks |
| 10:36.29 | ant_work | bluelightning: I've asked JaMa about that meta-oe split out |
| 10:36.47 | bluelightning | ant_work: sorry, which one? |
| 10:37.05 | bluelightning | oh benchmark split out |
| 10:37.07 | ant_work | was: meta-openembedded/meta-oe is confusing |
| 10:37.21 | bluelightning | oh right |
| 10:37.22 | bluelightning | yes |
| 10:37.24 | JaMa | I don't think that splitting every few recipes does not work well unless they are really well separated/standalone |
| 10:38.19 | ant_work | many devs percieve meta-oe as a jump in the dark |
| 10:38.44 | ant_work | some just include a couple of layers of meta-openembedded (me) |
| 10:38.48 | JaMa | then they should report their problems on ML |
| 10:39.05 | bluelightning | at the very least, meta-oe needs to have no bbappends and no overlayed recipes |
| 10:39.33 | bluelightning | i.e. no change in behaviour when the user adds it to bblayers.conf |
| 10:40.04 | JaMa | bluelightning: what about stuff like qt4 bbappends? |
| 10:40.49 | bluelightning | JaMa: I'm not convinced we should have those frankly - why can't those be in distro layers? it's not guaranteed that when I add meta-oe I want qt4 to be rebuilt just to get postgres/mysql support |
| 10:41.06 | otavio | levonmaa: pong |
| 10:41.20 | bluelightning | having those there is effectively setting policy, that's not what meta-oe should be doing |
| 10:41.47 | bluelightning | or at least it shouldn't be trying to do that *and* add extra recipes that people want independently of any policy |
| 10:41.54 | JaMa | bluelightning: distro still can change QT_CONFIG_FLAGS, so policy is still in distro |
| 10:42.11 | JaMa | it just updates default value because it has postgres/mysql available |
| 10:42.29 | bluelightning | JaMa: sure you can change it, after you realise meta-oe has altered it |
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| 10:43.33 | bluelightning | I'm going to push harder on this now especially as there is now a danny branch |
| 10:45.39 | ant_work | I pose my question again: what is the point having e.g. meta-openembedded/meta-multimedia and meta-openembedded/meta-oe/recipes-multimedia ? |
| 10:45.48 | ant_work | same with recipes-graphics etc. etc. |
| 10:46.05 | afournier | i often get unrecognized options: --disable-silent-rules, --disable-dependency-tracking, --with-libtool-sysroot |
| 10:46.07 | afournier | is it normal ? |
| 10:46.50 | bluelightning | ant_work: that's just a case of nobody getting around to moving those things |
| 10:47.13 | bluelightning | ant_work: they should be moved |
| 10:47.17 | ant_work | bluelightning: worth an RFC |
| 10:47.45 | bluelightning | I wouldn't think it needs to be an RFC, the layers got created, they're in the same repo... there shouldn't be a problem |
| 10:48.24 | bluelightning | we just need someone to send patches :) |
| 10:49.04 | bluelightning | afournier: are you overriding do_configure? |
| 10:49.19 | afournier | yes |
| 10:49.44 | hrw | afournier: why you do that? |
| 10:50.04 | afournier | to fix the Makefile most of the time |
| 10:50.08 | bluelightning | afournier: ok, I think it's likely that the configure script distributed with the source doesn't support the options that we expect and that's why you get that message |
| 10:50.12 | hrw | afournier: do_configure_append |
| 10:50.30 | hrw | afournier: by using own do_configure you make life harder for others |
| 10:50.48 | afournier | hrw: sometimes i also fix the configure |
| 10:50.58 | hrw | afournier: fix configure.{in,ac} instead? |
| 10:51.33 | hrw | afournier: I am working on armv8 stuff nowadays. Each time I see do_configure() in autotools based recipe I kill a kitty. |
| 10:51.45 | afournier | hrw: trying |
| 10:51.52 | hrw | afournier: my neighbours are affraid life of their pets... |
| 10:52.22 | ant_work | bluelightning: btw, first commit in meta-oe says: "move layer into meta-oe in preparation for future splits |
| 10:52.22 | ant_work | . As per TSC decision" |
| 10:52.32 | hrw | bluelightning: did you tried php 5.4.4 again maybe? |
| 10:52.50 | bluelightning | hrw: I haven't had time to look at it yet I'm afraid |
| 10:53.48 | hrw | ok |
| 10:54.01 | hrw | I am fighting update to 5.4.8 |
| 10:54.21 | hrw | cause 5.4.4 ftfbs in crazy way for aarch64 |
| 10:54.31 | JaMa | hrw: do you see some build issues probably related to libxml changes? |
| 10:54.38 | JaMa | hrw: fails for me since yesterday |
| 10:54.56 | hrw | JaMa: love you! tell me more |
| 10:54.57 | JaMa | | /OE/jansa-test/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/work/x86_64-linux/php-native/5.3.6-r2.0/php-5.3.6/ext/dom/node.c: In function 'dom_canonicalization': |
| 10:55.00 | JaMa | | /OE/jansa-test/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/work/x86_64-linux/php-native/5.3.6-r2.0/php-5.3.6/ext/dom/node.c:1903:21: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 10:55.01 | hrw | yes! |
| 10:55.03 | JaMa | | /OE/jansa-test/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/work/x86_64-linux/php-native/5.3.6-r2.0/php-5.3.6/ext/dom/node.c:1905:5: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 10:55.06 | JaMa | | make: *** [ext/dom/node.lo] Error 1 |
| 10:55.27 | JaMa | then not aarch64 fault :) |
| 10:55.35 | JaMa | the same in evolution-data-server |
| 10:55.43 | hrw | next month I will freeze all Linaro OE builds to one set of revs and then update monthly |
| 10:56.11 | JaMa | will stick to danny with official SHR builds |
| 10:56.28 | hrw | JaMa: we have many things already merged into master |
| 10:56.56 | hrw | and php/mysqli extension segfaults for me so want to check newer php first |
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| 11:13.21 | ericben | morning |
| 11:13.30 | woglinde | hi ericben |
| 11:13.33 | ericben | hi woglinde |
| 11:15.20 | ericben | concerning PACKAGECONFIG for example in php we have PACKAGECONFIG[mysql] PACKAGECONFIG[pgsql] : how is done the choice ? is it using a DISTRO_FEATURE or by setting PACKAGECONFIG in local conf files ? |
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| 11:23.49 | ericben | bluelightning: hi, for modphp: what is the irght way to set PACKAGECONFIG ? |
| 11:25.17 | bluelightning | ericben: you can either set it in a bbappend, or you can use PACKAGECONFIG_pn-modphp in local/distro config |
| 11:25.32 | bluelightning | bbappend probably makes it more obvious though |
| 11:26.02 | ericben | bluelightning: OK thanks. Would that make sense to generete it on the fly using DISTRO_FEATURES ? |
| 11:26.28 | bluelightning | only if there is a system-wide DISTRO_FEATURES item that would make sense to set it from... |
| 11:26.38 | bluelightning | I'm not sure there is in this case |
| 11:27.01 | ericben | ok, in some packages that's the way it's done. Thanks |
| 11:27.08 | bluelightning | indeed, we do set from DISTRO_FEATURES for other cases where there is |
| 11:34.31 | bluelightning | hmm, there is no end to problems with this recipe :( |
| 11:35.17 | bluelightning | we have ${PN}-bin and ${PN}-utils in ntp - only one seems to actually have files in it... |
| 11:35.42 | hrw | ok, 5.4.8 failed same way |
| 11:35.51 | hrw | | /home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/build/arm-gcc-build/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/libexec/aarch64-oe-linux/gcc/aarch64-oe-linux/4.7.3/ld: /home/hrw/HDD/devel/canonical/aarch64/build/arm-gcc-build/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/genericarmv8/usr/lib/../lib/libc-client.a(osdep.o)(.text+0x8ef4): unresolvable R_AARCH64_ADR_PREL_PG_HI21 relocation against symbol `daylight@@GLIBC_2.16' |
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| 14:55.34 | xanium4333 | Don't spose someone could help me with trying to rebuild a kernel. I can't get the uImage places into the deploy directory to be updated, it seems to be coming from a cache somewhere. I do bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel; bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel; (make changes); bitbake -c compile virtual/kernel; bitbake -c deploy virtual/kernel. But the created uImage does not have my menuconfig changes |
| 14:57.28 | xanium4333 | furthermore, I've tried updating the defconfig for the kernel in use (which I've confirmed the changes are there), and no matter what 'cleaning'/rebuilding I do, I can't get the generated uImage to be updated (I checked /proc/config.gz). This is all on a beaglebone |
| 14:59.46 | devzero_ | i've created own recipes which use svn with user/pass in the URL - this info is stored in IPK in controls in control.tar.gz - is there a way to drop credentials in this file? |
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| 15:09.20 | Zagor | yay, I get to revert ross' glib commit :) |
| 15:10.05 | Zagor | not entirely true. just bits. |
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| 15:15.25 | bluelightning | xanium4333: which version are you using? |
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| 15:30.15 | Zagor | did anyone include eglib-locale in an rpm build lately? I get "Unable to resolve package eglibc-locale". it works with ipk. |
| 15:30.59 | Zagor | a build from master, that is |
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| 15:35.35 | xanium4333 | bluelightning: this is actually an angstrom 2012.05 setup, ie all the OE stuff checked out by their setup-scripts |
| 15:36.17 | xanium4333 | I'm now trying koen's instructions again (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/UlL4e0_O_UE/vAmLNmkXc1sJ) just to make sure... |
| 15:37.05 | xanium4333 | the config file places in the deploy DIR does not have my changes within it, and I'm *sure* my changes are in the defconfig (and I've checked the work/kernel/git/.config file as well |
| 15:41.44 | aloniv | silly question but i'll ask anyway. how to install meta-toolchain-openmoko? i already successfully installed meta-toolchain. do i need core-image-minimal? |
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| 15:52.38 | xanium4333 | nope, still didn't work. The config file in the deploy directory does not have my changes (which show up in bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig) |
| 16:02.17 | afournier | are you sure you replaced the right defconfig ? |
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| 16:05.41 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:07.29 | tsjsieb | xanium4333: did you try -c cleansstate ? |
| 16:08.54 | tsjsieb | your problem looks like this: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2256 |
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| 16:11.29 | aloniv | morning although here it is evening :) |
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| 16:11.50 | chouimat | aloniv: only 11:11 here :) |
| 16:13.45 | aloniv | chouimat: i'm having trouble with openembedded. can you help? |
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| 16:26.21 | bluelightning | aloniv: please ask your question |
| 16:27.23 | florian | re |
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| 16:29.32 | aloniv | bluelightning - trying to get openmoko environment. |
| 16:29.50 | bluelightning | oh right I see your question above |
| 16:29.51 | aloniv | on wiki they say to bitbake meta-toolchain-openmoko |
| 16:30.03 | aloniv | i bitbaked meta-toolchain |
| 16:30.09 | aloniv | bitbaked :) |
| 16:30.40 | aloniv | what now? |
| 16:31.13 | aloniv | on this page |
| 16:31.13 | bluelightning | I would suggest following their instructions (i.e. bitbake meta-toolchain-openmoko) and if you have problems you probably need to ask in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 16:31.21 | aloniv | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/SDK/Toolchain/Application_Developer_Toolkit |
| 16:31.31 | aloniv | they claim i get some tarball which i can't find |
| 16:31.44 | aloniv | meta-toolchain-openmoko doesn't exist |
| 16:32.32 | bluelightning | I guess those are outdated instructions... |
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| 16:33.35 | JaMa | aloniv: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-core/sdk/ |
| 16:33.47 | aloniv | thanks but i want older openmoko... |
| 16:33.56 | aloniv | om2009 |
| 16:34.24 | JaMa | aloniv: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/ |
| 16:34.27 | aloniv | sadly never had much luck with shr |
| 16:35.16 | aloniv | these are compiled i think |
| 16:36.06 | JaMa | if you want to compile them, then you have to checkout very old version of oe-classic |
| 16:36.25 | JaMa | but a lot of URLs etc won't be accessible now I guess |
| 16:39.45 | aloniv | unfortunately the compiled version only works on distros based on ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 |
| 16:40.08 | JaMa | well what do you expect from dead old toolchain :) |
| 16:40.11 | aloniv | and i don;t really want to install e.g. gnewsense for this |
| 16:40.17 | aloniv | *don't |
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| 16:54.21 | JaMa | bluelightning: thanks a lot for ntp changes |
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| 16:54.40 | bluelightning | JaMa: you're welcome... took quite a lot more time than I had planned :/ |
| 16:54.51 | JaMa | bluelightning: there is small typo in commit message "/etc/default/ntpdate.default" should be without .default suffix but in code it's right |
| 16:55.13 | bluelightning | argh... oops |
| 16:55.51 | JaMa | and patch for meta-systemd still in queue? |
| 16:56.04 | bluelightning | I just sent it |
| 16:56.31 | bluelightning | including otavio's patches as somehow they did not all hit patchwork |
| 16:57.07 | JaMa | and is it ntp-date or ntpdate package now? |
| 16:57.25 | bluelightning | ntpdate |
| 16:57.48 | bluelightning | the previous patch that changed it was reverted; I was going to revert the name anyway though |
| 16:58.03 | JaMa | good |
| 16:58.12 | JaMa | I also prefer ntpdate |
| 16:58.39 | bluelightning | as do I... meta-opie even broke on that change |
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| 16:59.09 | bluelightning | worth noting though that ntpdate itself may go away in future according to upstream |
| 16:59.16 | bluelightning | we'll deal with that when the time comes though |
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| 17:45.58 | chouimat | is there a way to add default user to a rootfs? |
| 17:46.42 | JaMa | chouimat: useradd.bbclass should help you |
| 17:46.53 | chouimat | JaMa: thanks |
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| 17:50.00 | chouimat | JaMa: the problem is I'm stuck with classic for this project |
| 17:57.01 | bluelightning | chouimat: in that case, it's probably a matter of creating a shell function with calls to the useradd command and adding a call to the function to ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND |
| 18:03.27 | chouimat | thanks |
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| 19:13.07 | xanium4333 | tsjsieb, I think you're not here, but here's a 'thanks' for the hint about sstate, just trying it now, and I think it'll solve the problem |
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| 19:27.59 | xanium4333 | is there any reason I can't update bitbake, if I'm using angstrom's 'standard' environment made by ./oebb.sh? |
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