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| 13:38.48 | jackmitchell | why does bitbake -g image give me -dev packages and even some packages which aren't installed in the target rootfs? |
| 13:39.21 | jackmitchell | I though the only things in package-depends would be what was packaged and installed in the target root? |
| 13:40.14 | jackmitchell | e.g. I have a package libwebsockets, which is a library, and is installed just as a library, but package-depends only lists libwebsockets-dev |
| 13:41.42 | jackmitchell | sorry, I like it lists ALL the libwebsocket packages m -dev -dbg -locale, |
| 13:41.49 | jackmitchell | s/like/lie |
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| 13:56.51 | bluelightning | jackmitchell: the actual packages included in the root filesystem are computed by the package manager during do_rootfs |
| 13:58.20 | bluelightning | so we don't have all of that information when -g is executed |
| 13:58.59 | bluelightning | thus the -g output just includes all packages the build system knows about (which may not actually include all packages, e.g. in the case of optional modules) |
| 14:00.57 | jackmitchell | bluelightning: ah, ok |
| 14:02.10 | bluelightning | if you would like information about packages installed into the image (including graphs) you can enable buildhistory; these will only be produced after the image has been built though |
| 14:03.05 | bluelightning | JaMa: hi - any known issues with Qt 4.8.3 or is it working smoothly in your testing? |
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| 14:34.20 | JaMa | bluelightning: no issue afaik |
| 14:34.59 | bluelightning | JaMa: ok, great... ross just sent some patches to make 4.8.3 the default and remove 4.8.1 |
| 14:36.04 | JaMa | good |
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| 14:42.17 | jackmitchell | is libtool meant to be included in meta-toolchain |
| 14:42.22 | jackmitchell | as I get the error: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
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| 14:42.33 | jackmitchell | which after a quick google points to libtool not being present |
| 14:43.02 | jackmitchell | backinfo: I am trying ot convert a project to autotools and this error pops up when running autoconf -i |
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| 17:14.10 | otavio | JaMa: I got further with qt5 and found some serious issues |
| 17:14.33 | otavio | JaMa: I guess you're building qtbase for same arch you're using in host, right? |
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| 17:31.43 | otavio | JaMa: The build system is trying to use run the local moc/uic/... binaries (which are ARM binaries in my case) so it fails |
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| 17:42.52 | otavio | levonmaa: ^ |
| 17:43.03 | otavio | levonmaa: did you get this failure in qt5 too? |
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| 17:53.43 | eren | bluelightning: referring to your patch on [meta-networking], why do you create an *.inc file and just write {md5,sha256}sum in an actual bb file? |
| 17:55.12 | bluelightning | eren: the checksums are specific to the version since the tarball would be different; the rest are common parts that go into the inc |
| 17:55.34 | bluelightning | (just allows additional versions to be added without having to duplicate the common parts) |
| 17:55.56 | eren | bluelightning: you didn't do it in proftpd package |
| 17:56.18 | bluelightning | no, I basically kept to however it was set up in OE-Classic |
| 17:58.03 | eren | bluelightning: so the convention is to keep common code in *.inc, (summary, description, building, installation, user addition, etc), and put changin parts in bb file? In this way, updating the package is simply renaming the bb file and updating sha, md5 sums |
| 17:59.34 | eren | I also came across PR = "r0". Some said that it's not required, and should be removed because the default is "r0" while others keep PR variable specifically so that it's not forgotten to update the revision. Are there different approaches for oe-core, and for other repositories? |
| 18:02.05 | bluelightning | eren: certain people insist PR = "r0" should be removed; I prefer to keep it in because it only has to be re-added if it is incremented and then it often gets added in a different place in the file than it was previously |
| 18:03.30 | eren | bluelightning: yeah, that also seems right to me. What about the convention on *.inc and bb? |
| 18:04.06 | bluelightning | there's no hard requirement either way |
| 18:04.32 | bluelightning | if there are multiple versions of the package with known compatibility issues it may be a good idea to have a common .inc though |
| 18:07.12 | eren | got it, thanks |
| 18:10.34 | eren | I've completed the half of the document. It includes building bitbake, explaining base class, adding tasks, overwriting the tasks (with autotools example), showing how the tasks are overwritten using run_TASK.PID files in temp. I will be releasing soon on mailing list when I finish explaining OpenEmbedded code :) |
| 18:10.59 | bluelightning | cool |
| 18:13.39 | levonmaa | otavio: right, have not seen it as I have been working on x86 so far |
| 18:14.04 | otavio | levonmaa: yes but this doesn't show the native tools issues |
| 18:14.18 | levonmaa | otavio: not sure I follow... |
| 18:14.50 | otavio | levonmaa: currently qtbase is trying to run QT_SOURCE_DIR/bin/moc for example |
| 18:14.59 | otavio | levonmaa: and this is an arm binary |
| 18:15.03 | levonmaa | ah.. thats wrong |
| 18:15.09 | otavio | levonmaa: yes; I know |
| 18:15.12 | levonmaa | ;) |
| 18:15.21 | otavio | levonmaa: and this is what needs fixing now |
| 18:15.28 | levonmaa | yes |
| 18:16.34 | levonmaa | JaMa, otavio: just to make sure we are not duplicating work, who should pick it up? |
| 18:17.34 | otavio | levonmaa: I am working on this at this moment |
| 18:17.40 | otavio | levonmaa: and what you're working on? |
| 18:17.52 | levonmaa | otavio: ok, I |
| 18:17.55 | levonmaa | moops |
| 18:17.57 | levonmaa | oops |
| 18:18.37 | levonmaa | Im looking into the installations and then I have prelim recipes for qtjsbackend and qtdeclarative |
| 18:19.02 | otavio | levonmaa: I think we ought to sort out qtbase and qt-tools before |
| 18:19.03 | levonmaa | but they are still work in progress |
| 18:19.41 | levonmaa | otavio: agreed |
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| 18:22.13 | levonmaa | otavio: with the installations above I was referring to that fact that qtbase still installs wrongly |
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| 18:26.31 | otavio | woglinde: Are java building for danny? |
| 18:26.42 | otavio | woglinde: mario-goulart had problem building it here |
| 18:27.00 | woglinde | otavio hm I am only testing against master |
| 18:27.09 | woglinde | and I have no time at the moment |
| 18:27.18 | otavio | mario-goulart: do you remember the failure? |
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| 18:27.53 | woglinde | no time for meta-jaba of course |
| 18:27.58 | woglinde | ups java |
| 18:28.56 | mario-goulart | otavio: I don't remember the exact error. I think I posted a log. I'm trying to find it. |
| 18:29.23 | mario-goulart | I'm afraid I set the expire time for something short, like 3 days or something... |
| 18:29.58 | woglinde | mario-goulart or did we talk about it already? |
| 18:32.00 | mario-goulart | woglinde: No, we don't. |
| 18:32.16 | mario-goulart | As I expected my error log posted to paste.debian.org has expired. |
| 18:32.40 | mario-goulart | I remember I got errors similar to the ones showed here: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2012-August/041120.html |
| 18:32.59 | mario-goulart | There's a patch at that thread, but I couldn't apply it, IIRC. |
| 18:33.24 | woglinde | than run it again |
| 18:33.29 | woglinde | and show me the error |
| 18:33.46 | mario-goulart | Ok |
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| 18:38.06 | chouimat | hi |
| 18:38.20 | mario-goulart | woglinde: http://paste.debian.net/210771/ |
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| 18:39.43 | mario-goulart | woglinde: I run "bitbake openjdk-6-jre" |
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| 18:45.28 | woglinde | mario-goulart is that the native or target llvm package? |
| 18:45.37 | woglinde | I never build llvm for x86 targets |
| 18:52.06 | mario-goulart | woglinde: I don't know. How can I check that? |
| 18:54.03 | mario-goulart | I'm bitbaking llvm2.8 to try to find some info. |
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| 19:01.34 | levonmaa | otavio: seems like the native recipe is missing a patch that allows the configration of the qt.conf location |
| 19:01.43 | otavio | levonmaa: yes |
| 19:01.57 | otavio | levonmaa: I fixed it locally and I am finishing to test it for uploading |
| 19:02.06 | levonmaa | otavio: groovy |
| 19:02.42 | levonmaa | otavio: there are two patches, imo the 0001-Allowing-the-customization-of-the-paths.patch it the right one |
| 19:02.57 | levonmaa | s/it/is |
| 19:04.56 | otavio | levonmaa: Yes; I am running devshell to confirm it worked |
| 19:05.04 | levonmaa | ok |
| 19:07.36 | levonmaa | otavio: have you seen this before http://paste.debian.net/210781/ |
| 19:07.53 | levonmaa | just popped up on my other machine... |
| 19:08.29 | otavio | levonmaa: no; never |
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| 19:14.33 | otavio | woglinde: it is for target |
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| 19:21.42 | eren | I guess it would be useful to have branch information on oe-commits list |
| 19:21.46 | eren | i.e |
| 19:22.02 | eren | [oe-commits] [master-next] Richard Purdie : scripts/pybootchart: Allow minimum task length to be configured from the commandline |
| 19:22.40 | eren | now, when skimming through commits, opening the mail explicitly is needed to just get which branch the commit has been made into |
| 19:23.26 | eren | it looks like a duplicate commit, and make me think that "hey, I remember it!" :) |
| 19:28.14 | otavio | levonmaa: pushed |
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| 19:38.17 | JaMa | eren: I'm using filter to move emails from oe-commits with "Branch: master$" to separate folder |
| 19:41.08 | eren | JaMa: hm, a possible solution |
| 19:41.53 | eren | JaMa: what about other branches, like master-next? |
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| 19:42.40 | eren | + denny and denzil |
| 19:44.40 | eren | heh, I will just create folders for each branches for now :) |
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| 19:57.19 | JaMa | otavio: why are you changing author of 0001-qlibraryinfo-allow-to-set-qt.conf-from-the-outside-u.patch ? please rebase it in qtcore/meta-qt5/oe-core-5 |
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| 20:49.48 | Crofton|work | are SECTION and PRIORITY deperectaed now? |
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| 21:36.10 | Jin^eLD | guys, can we build stuff for android using OE? I saw some fork attempts but I wonder if anything is in "officially", would be quite handy for cross compiling various linux command line tools and so on |
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| 21:48.07 | GNUtoo-desktop | Jin^eLD, there was an oe classic fork |
| 21:49.11 | Jin^eLD | and with core, noone tried? |
| 21:49.33 | GNUtoo-desktop | it's old |
| 21:49.51 | GNUtoo-desktop | try to look in the openembedded mailing list |
| 21:50.26 | Jin^eLD | I still do not quite understand what android actually is :) got my first tablet today and it looks like a crippled linux |
| 21:50.52 | Jin^eLD | but I am not yet clear about the big differences |
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| 22:08.35 | woglinde | jineld hm |
| 22:09.12 | woglinde | jineld android is linux-kernel+bluez+dbus+dalvik |
| 22:09.38 | Jin^eLD | then why the hell is everything there so crippled? :) |
| 22:09.55 | Jin^eLD | will google up on dalvik |
| 22:10.04 | woglinde | hm what you mean with crippled? |
| 22:10.15 | woglinde | you can install a bash if you want |
| 22:10.26 | Jin^eLD | that I did by the way, but it's all very strange there |
| 22:10.31 | Jin^eLD | path layout is completely messed up |
| 22:10.32 | woglinde | the bioniclib dont support all glibc features |
| 22:10.42 | Jin^eLD | ah, so they use "bioniclib" as the c library? |
| 22:10.51 | woglinde | sure |
| 22:11.04 | woglinde | because its bsd licensends |
| 22:11.13 | Jin^eLD | ah, I see |
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| 22:11.28 | woglinde | ah I frogot webkit engine |
| 22:11.52 | Jin^eLD | any special gcc tweaks or just the regular stuf? |
| 22:12.05 | woglinde | just regular stuff |
| 22:12.21 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.25 | Jin^eLD | because from what you told me it sounds like we should be able to build stuff in OE for it, provided I manage to replace the libc with this bionic stuff |
| 22:13.48 | woglinde | good nite |
| 22:14.05 | Jin^eLD | nite, thanks for the hints |
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