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| 08:57.29 | MaxPowers | hi |
| 08:57.57 | MaxPowers | i have a question regarding replacing/removing certain values of a variable in a .bbappend |
| 08:58.39 | MaxPowers | for example the base recipe sets a variable as follows VARIABLE += "value_a value_b value_c" |
| 08:58.59 | MaxPowers | how can i remove one of the values in a .bbappend? |
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| 09:08.09 | bluelightning | MaxPowers: it's a bit tricky to do that |
| 09:08.37 | bluelightning | MaxPowers: you can use := in combination with oe_filter_out, that's a bit nasty though |
| 09:09.10 | bluelightning | MaxPowers: it may indicate the recipe above needs to be more flexible... are you able to give more context? |
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| 09:24.04 | XorA | did no-one fix the oe-members list yet :-( |
| 09:24.15 | bluelightning | XorA: I was unaware that it was broken.... |
| 09:24.33 | XorA | bluelightning: I am still listed as a admin for that list years after I left |
| 09:24.58 | XorA | bluelightning: I figure if I moan about it once every couple of months someone will eventually fix it |
| 09:25.47 | XorA | looking at the emails I get I suspect we can no longer function as a eV |
| 09:26.47 | bluelightning | XorA: probably time to raise the issue with the board directly... |
| 09:27.04 | bluelightning | ka6sox: ^^^ |
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| 09:28.01 | ka6sox | I have no access to that one.. |
| 09:28.02 | ka6sox | :( |
| 09:28.10 | bluelightning | ka6sox: ah ok, do you know who does? |
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| 09:28.28 | ka6sox | not really anymore... |
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| 09:29.03 | bluelightning | hmm :( |
| 09:30.00 | ka6sox | we can ask the current board members who does |
| 09:30.35 | XorA | has annoyed the board but like normal that does not acheive anything in OE |
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| 09:31.00 | bluelightning | XorA: sigh... |
| 09:31.41 | bluelightning | I guess if we have lost direct control over infrastructure that may be something for the TSC to resolve |
| 09:31.55 | bluelightning | I'll raise it in that forum as well anyway |
| 09:32.08 | bluelightning | XorA: sorry for the hassles |
| 09:32.34 | XorA | bluelightning: its not a hassle, its 2-3 emails a day, but it does mean no-one is maintaining that list |
| 09:32.52 | bluelightning | right... we definitely need to get onto it |
| 09:32.55 | XorA | bluelightning: and I cant as my password was removed |
| 09:33.09 | XorA | would otherwise have removed him from the admin list |
| 09:37.00 | ka6sox | XorA, what list is this? |
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| 09:38.05 | ka6sox | oh, I see |
| 09:40.02 | ant_work | XorA: maybe I'm misunderstunding, which kind of mails are you receiving? |
| 09:40.31 | XorA | ant_work: the moderator emails |
| 09:40.53 | ant_work | ah, I'm subscribed to the list and I don't see any traffic since months |
| 09:41.30 | ant_work | so you're probably getting spam |
| 09:42.01 | ant_work | what has that to do with E.V. impeachments? |
| 09:43.13 | XorA | ant_work: I know some people have fallen off the list due to email bounces, this means votes are not valid, if no-one can admin the list we cannot have new members etc etc |
| 09:43.41 | ant_work | ouch |
| 09:47.12 | bluelightning | XorA: I have sent out an email to tsc/florian/philip, hopefully we can resolve this swiftly |
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| 10:07.43 | SorenHolm | Regarding boost.... it seems like it is compiled using the build-hosts gcc-version. The recipe resenbles the OE-classico one. And I'm not that good friends with BJAM. I get QA-error telling me that the architecture is wrong. |
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| 10:19.10 | pb_ | morning all |
| 10:22.07 | pb_ | hi flo_lap |
| 10:23.14 | pb_ | bluelightning: I exchanged emails with Philip a couple of months ago about the oe-members situation. I never heard back from him so I assumed it was all ok, but if that is not the case then I am happy to sort it out. |
| 10:23.21 | pb_ | I'll forward you a copy of the last mail I sent to him. |
| 10:25.19 | bluelightning | pb_: do you have access? |
| 10:25.24 | bluelightning | (morning btw) |
| 10:25.25 | pb_ | yes |
| 10:25.36 | pb_ | I've forwarded you that mail now. |
| 10:27.01 | XorA | no-one has performed moderator actions on that list since Feb 26th |
| 10:27.28 | XorA | :-D |
| 10:27.57 | pb_ | that is a little bit sad. |
| 10:45.20 | hrw | XorA: iirc whole lists.openembedded.org is at linuxtogo which is more or less unmaintained due lack of time |
| 10:49.50 | pb_ | RP__: ping? |
| 10:50.26 | RP__ | pb_: pong |
| 10:53.27 | pb_ | you can change it to whatever you want from the admin page |
| 10:58.26 | rob_w | how does one handle different MACHINES in oe-core ? as far as i understand , oe-core only builds quemu images ?! |
| 10:58.57 | bluelightning | rob_w: you add a BSP layer supporting the machine you need |
| 10:59.09 | rob_w | hmm ok |
| 10:59.23 | bluelightning | rob_w: there are a number listed here: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/LayerIndex |
| 10:59.32 | rob_w | thx |
| 11:04.55 | rob_w | pretty cool |
| 11:05.25 | rob_w | uhhh ;-) WARNING: Host distribution "Linux Mint 13 Maya" has not been validated |
| 11:05.51 | bluelightning | rob_w: that's correct... if it works for you, great, but if it breaks, no guarantees... |
| 11:06.01 | rob_w | no worrys .. |
| 11:06.19 | bluelightning | we'll try to help to the best of our abilities though of course |
| 11:06.57 | bluelightning | even "mainstream" distros introduce nasty problems that cause us pain :/ |
| 11:07.05 | rob_w | ok, tell me this .. how far is poky now away from oe-core ? |
| 11:07.11 | bluelightning | rob_w: closer than ever |
| 11:08.06 | bluelightning | rob_w: changes go directly into OE-Core and then get pulled back into Poky from there (in a scripted manner) |
| 11:08.37 | bluelightning | same applies to bitbake |
| 11:09.05 | hrw | is there a way to recreate sstate-cache from tmpdir? |
| 11:09.17 | rob_w | so i stick with oe-core and i am good |
| 11:09.55 | bluelightning | rob_w: sure, you can use whichever you feel comfortable with, ultimately it's the same metadata... |
| 11:10.17 | bluelightning | rob_w: poky just provides an out-of-the box tested pairing of bitbake and OE-Core, and a distro config |
| 11:10.45 | bluelightning | hrw: not really, no, it's usually the other way around... |
| 11:10.47 | rob_w | gotya |
| 11:11.07 | hrw | bluelightning: I know but by mistake I removed share sstate cache |
| 11:11.22 | hrw | bluelightning: whole build would take another night |
| 11:11.45 | bluelightning | hrw: that shouldn't cause any actual failure though, we don't rely upon sstate-cache being there... |
| 11:12.00 | hrw | bluelightning: sure, but incremental builds will suffer ;D) |
| 11:12.02 | rob_w | how is the order of parsing of those layers ? like last parsed layer will overwrite em all ? |
| 11:12.22 | rob_w | order in bblayer.conf i mean |
| 11:12.42 | bluelightning | rob_w: depends; each layer has a layer priority which controls which layer's recipes take precedence |
| 11:13.05 | bluelightning | rob_w: for classes and conf files it's more or less the order in which the layers appear in bblayers.conf |
| 11:13.28 | rob_w | say for normal recipes of apps n stuff |
| 11:14.04 | bluelightning | rob_w: right, in which case it's layer priority order; if priorities are the same between two layers then it's the order found in bblayers.conf |
| 11:14.19 | rob_w | ah |
| 11:14.23 | bluelightning | rob_w: you can get some introspection into a layer config by using the bitbake-layers utility FYI |
| 11:14.37 | rob_w | just noticed fe. meta-igep/conf/layer.conf |
| 11:15.23 | bluelightning | bitbake-layers can tell you the layers enabled and their priorities, which recipes & appends exist, which version of a recipe is preferred, etc. |
| 11:18.28 | bluelightning | hrw: unfortunately I think you may just have to bear the extra time, the system isn't designed to handle that corner case... |
| 11:18.38 | hrw | ok, just wanted to know |
| 11:20.03 | SorenHolm | khem: Hi. You added boot 1.50 to OE-core this july. Do you see any reason why the recipe uses the build-hosts compiler? |
| 11:20.33 | bluelightning | rob_w: FYI you can set SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS = "" in your local.conf to avoid the warning if it's annoying |
| 11:21.06 | rob_w | no worrys |
| 11:21.49 | rob_w | i am pretty sure it will work ;-) |
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| 12:41.39 | silvio_ | hi all |
| 12:42.25 | silvio_ | It is possible change/force building an image with different package? |
| 12:43.01 | silvio_ | for example change qt4-x11-free with qt4-x11-free-gless |
| 12:43.28 | silvio_ | so that the "gless" one is the default |
| 12:46.23 | bluelightning | silvio_: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_qt4-x11-free = "qt4-x11-free-gles" I would think |
| 12:46.28 | bluelightning | presumably this is OE-Classic |
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| 12:48.12 | silvio_ | <bluelightning>: i try but doesnt work in this way |
| 12:48.52 | bluelightning | silvio_: after doing that what do you get if you do: bitbake -e | grep "PREFERRED_PROVIDER_qt4-x11-free" |
| 12:48.59 | silvio_ | <bluelightning>: instead of = was ?= i canghed in =, but still try to compile the xfree without gless |
| 12:49.43 | silvio_ | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_qt4-x11-free="qt4-x11-free-gles" |
| 12:50.08 | bluelightning | ok, so that setting is being used at least |
| 12:50.16 | silvio_ | i rebuild with -c clean need maybe "cleanall"? |
| 12:50.26 | bluelightning | I very much doubt that will help |
| 12:51.24 | silvio_ | I thought to install package after, but i think that some dependencies will be breack |
| 12:51.32 | silvio_ | sorry for my english |
| 12:52.20 | bluelightning | silvio_: your english is just fine :) |
| 12:52.42 | bluelightning | silvio_: hmm... do you have a valid provider of virtual/egl ? |
| 12:53.19 | bluelightning | silvio_: oh, wait a second |
| 12:53.49 | bluelightning | silvio_: I'm guessing your MACHINE is not omap3 or ti816x, is that correct? |
| 12:54.07 | silvio_ | I put and it compile the qt4-x11-free-gless.bb recipe |
| 12:54.38 | silvio_ | yes it is a nvidia, i use the nvsamples egl |
| 12:54.52 | silvio_ | is tegra2 |
| 12:55.00 | bluelightning | so MACHINE is set to tegra2? |
| 12:55.27 | silvio_ | i add it yes |
| 12:55.46 | silvio_ | real is a colibri-T20 from toradex, and use tegra2 chip |
| 12:56.26 | bluelightning | ok, FYI the qt4-x11-free-gles recipe does "require recipes/egl/egl.inc" |
| 12:56.42 | bluelightning | and recipes/egl/egl.inc sets COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "omap3|ti816x" |
| 12:56.57 | bluelightning | which means if your machine is not either of those, it will be skipped |
| 12:57.30 | silvio_ | i added colibri-t20 to egl.inc |
| 12:57.39 | bluelightning | ok, good |
| 13:01.28 | silvio_ | bluelightning, we have BBFILES := "${OEHOME}/stuff/btw/recipes/*/*.bb ${OEHOME}/stuff/trdx/recipes/*/*.bb ${OEHOME}/stuff/openembedded/recipes/*/*.bb" |
| 13:01.29 | bluelightning | silvio_: bitbake -D may give some information about PROVIDES and DEPENDS and how they are being processed which may help |
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| 13:02.00 | silvio_ | and I created a btw/recipes/egl/egl.inc with COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "omap3|ti816x|colibri-t20" |
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| 13:05.41 | likewise | silvio_: MACHINE="tegra2" or "colibri-t20" ? |
| 13:06.21 | silvio_ | in build/conf/local.conf MACHINE="colibri-t20" |
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| 13:33.30 | coldsoup | morning. I'm having some problems building images with poky/oe-core after I add meta-oe to bblayers. Target arch is x86 and it looks like the udev in meta-oe doesn't put udevd/udevadm in the right places (/lib/udev instead of /sbin). Any advice? |
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| 13:38.03 | bluelightning | coldsoup: depending on what you're trying to do, I would say set PREFERRED_VERSION_udev to 164 so that the OE-Core/Poky version is used |
| 13:39.18 | coldsoup | Yea, I noticed similar lines used for the kernel in the distro recipe/confs. Does that go in local.conf? |
| 13:39.37 | SorenHolm | Do somone of you have time to check my boost compilation error? |
| 13:39.45 | bluelightning | coldsoup: it can, yes |
| 13:40.26 | bluelightning | SorenHolm: I can look but I'm by no means any kind of expert on boost... |
| 13:40.33 | coldsoup | bluelightning: thanks, I'll give it a whirl. |
| 13:41.09 | coldsoup | SorenHolm: same (definitely no expert), but I'm doing things involved with boost and I think it compiles for me |
| 13:42.30 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: bluelightning: great.... It actually compiles, It just uses the wrong build systems compiler. Which means that on a 32bit system you'll get no error problably. |
| 13:42.56 | silvio_ | bluelightning, any idea on why it says me ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide qt4-x11-free (/home/oe/stuff/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-x11-free-gles_4.7.3.bb /home/oe/stuff/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-x11-free_4.7.3.bb). ? |
| 13:44.56 | SorenHolm | silvio_: because you can build two flavors of QT (a version for X11 only, and a GLES-supporting version). Both provide qt4-x11-free |
| 13:45.13 | coldsoup | SorenHolm: what recipe are you building? |
| 13:45.23 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: boost |
| 13:45.59 | silvio_ | SorenHolm, that's clear to me. why they are both being built if i put PREFERRED_PROVIDER_qt4_x11-free = "qt4-x11-free-gles" in my machine.conf ? |
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| 13:47.07 | SorenHolm | silvio_: hmmm ...... I don't know that. Are you sure they are both build. It might just be a warning+ |
| 13:47.13 | SorenHolm | silvio_: ? |
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| 13:48.26 | coldsoup | SorenHold: are you sure it's not building both a native and target version? it DEPENDS = "boost-native..." |
| 13:49.11 | silvio_ | SorenHolm, it is building for sure qt4-x11-free now. |
| 13:49.24 | SorenHolm | silvio_: strange |
| 13:49.27 | silvio_ | the gles version is already compiled |
| 13:49.28 | coldsoup | oops, butchered your name ;-) |
| 13:49.41 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: :D |
| 13:50.02 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: it builds both yes. The native one does not fail whereas the target-version does |
| 13:50.13 | coldsoup | oh |
| 13:51.18 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: user-config.jam contains the correct compiler path |
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| 13:52.01 | coldsoup | SorenHelm: I'm enjoying the comments left in this recipe, heh |
| 13:53.01 | bluelightning | silvio_: it's usually because one of the recipes provides something the other does not |
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| 13:53.41 | silvio_ | bluelightning, I resolved adding RPROVIDES_${PN} = "qt4-x11-free" |
| 13:53.41 | silvio_ | RPROVIDES_${PN}-dev = "qt4-x11-free" to gles recipe |
| 13:54.05 | bluelightning | er, you don't want the latter |
| 13:54.20 | silvio_ | the dev ? |
| 13:54.23 | bluelightning | ${PN}-dev should not be providing qt4-x11-free |
| 13:54.42 | bluelightning | qt4-x11-free-dev maybe if that's really required, but I wouldn't think so |
| 13:56.37 | silvio_ | bluelightning, next one :) |
| 13:56.39 | silvio_ | | * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-qt4-x11-base: |
| 13:56.39 | silvio_ | | * qt4-x11-free |
| 13:56.49 | silvio_ | | * resolve_conffiles: Existing conffile /home/oe/output/rootfs/btw-x11-demo-image/etc/device_table is different from the conffile in the new package. The new conffile will be placed at /home/oe/output/rootfs/btw-x11-demo-image/etc/device_table-opkg. |
| 13:57.20 | bluelightning | silvio_: I'm guessing qt4-x11-free-gles do_package did not get re-run since you added that RPROVIDES_${PN}... ? |
| 13:57.48 | silvio_ | bluelightning, no :) |
| 13:58.03 | bluelightning | silvio_: right, so the package does not have the runtime provides in it |
| 13:58.15 | silvio_ | coool |
| 13:58.27 | silvio_ | seeemed harder than real :) |
| 13:58.35 | coldsoup | SorenHolm, the meaning of this recipe escapes me. Seems like it should work if you have the right path in user-config.jam |
| 13:59.02 | bluelightning | this is OE-Classic so none of that happens automatically, either rebuild qt-x11-free-gles or force do_package and then do_package_write_ipk for that recipe |
| 13:59.20 | bluelightning | I'm guessing those gles recipes have not had a huge amount of testing in recent times |
| 13:59.24 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: yeah ..... do you want some log og something? |
| 14:01.00 | coldsoup | SorenHolm, eh. You probably know more about this than I do. I've only been working with oe for the past month and thought I might be able to help someone else while I was getting help. Looks like I was wrong. I can try building just boost in a minute to see if it succeeds for me |
| 14:01.57 | coldsoup | SorenHold: but I think it has been building (dependency of gnuradio which is my interest), granted I'm targeting atom-pc which should be 64-bit x86. |
| 14:03.33 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: ..... ok ...... I'll leave now. B back later. |
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| 14:43.38 | rob_w | Pseudo is not present but is required, building this first before the main build what is that ? |
| 14:45.32 | bluelightning | rob_w: it's just telling you what it's doing, nothing to worry about |
| 14:45.46 | rob_w | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'pseudo-native' |
| 14:45.53 | rob_w | this is how my build ends |
| 14:46.00 | bluelightning | rob_w: er, that should not happen |
| 14:46.11 | rob_w | is it wrong to not build anything after the initial git clone |
| 14:46.12 | bluelightning | rob_w: what is your current configuration? |
| 14:46.21 | bluelightning | rob_w: no, that's not the issue |
| 14:46.26 | rob_w | and bring in meta layers before that first build ? |
| 14:46.33 | bluelightning | rob_w: that's fine |
| 14:46.47 | rob_w | well i cloned fresh .. took meta-ti , meta-angstrom, meta-igep |
| 14:47.00 | rob_w | configured MACHINE to igep0020 and started |
| 14:47.17 | bluelightning | pseudo-native should be able to be found within OE-Core; if it can't find that something is pretty seriously wrong |
| 14:47.49 | rob_w | k |
| 14:47.54 | rob_w | checking |
| 14:47.55 | bluelightning | rob_w: could you pastebin your bblayers.conf ? |
| 14:48.40 | rob_w | err |
| 14:48.54 | rob_w | just deleted the whole thing and redo it ... then pastebin all .. hang on |
| 14:49.12 | bluelightning | that's a bit drastic, but ok... |
| 14:49.37 | rob_w | good for me to learn |
| 14:50.02 | rob_w | need to get confortable here , oe-classic was my thing the last years |
| 14:50.48 | bluelightning | ok, sure |
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| 14:58.46 | rob_w | http://pastebin.com/9FpWapPD same error ... check this out |
| 15:23.28 | bluelightning | rob_w: this is the problem: ERROR: ParseError at /data/oe-core/meta-ti/recipes-misc/payload/bonescript.bb:5: Could not inherit file classes/systemd.bbclass |
| 15:23.40 | rob_w | working on it already |
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| 15:25.07 | rob_w | ..building |
| 15:27.11 | rob_w | needs more practise .. an doesnt like the fact that a quick look into recipes/* showed me all available apps ... anyway .. |
| 15:27.30 | rob_w | running home .. thx bluelightning !! |
| 15:27.34 | bluelightning | np |
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| 16:11.30 | coldsoup | How do I use BBMASK to mask polkit_0.104.bbappend? I tried BBMASK+="polkit*bbappend", but bitbake -g still shows it's stuff (namely systemd) |
| 16:13.13 | bluelightning | coldsoup: it's a regex, you probably need to change it accordingly |
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| 16:13.55 | coldsoup | does the type of assignment matter? (+=, =, :=) |
| 16:15.35 | coldsoup | bluelightning: what's a good way to test that the regex is working? |
| 16:16.03 | bluelightning | it depends on what's already in the variable |
| 16:16.22 | bluelightning | it starts off blank by default |
| 16:21.24 | coldsoup | bluelightning: oh dang. I think I figured out what I've been doing wrong. I was leaving out the surrounding //'s! Thanks for the help |
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| 17:17.37 | Crofton|work | coldsoup, is the meta-oe polkit still pulling in systemd? |
| 17:17.45 | Crofton|work | I thought that was fixed with meta-systemd? |
| 17:18.32 | JaMa | have you rebuilt that? |
| 17:19.34 | Crofton|work | me, not yet :() |
| 17:19.36 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 17:21.22 | JaMa | Crofton|work: maybe you'll have to disable it explicitly http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=fdfca500137491ee3a91c457213eba9bf5fe08a6 and then reenable it in meta-systemd layer |
| 17:22.17 | JaMa | ah this one is better http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=17e1219e7a530e7c0801ebb12bde484ad30ffbe5 |
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| 17:31.55 | coldsoup | Crofton|work: ugh, it's been a mess, and it's all grc's fault. I hate that program. |
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| 17:32.39 | coldsoup | Crofton|work: but I finally got an image built with oe booting on x86 WITH gnuradio |
| 17:34.52 | coldsoup | meta-oe is not _really_ distribution independent. I would be happier if there was a meta-scientific or something that had gr, numpy, plotting tools, etc... Maybe I'll do that on my own time ;-) |
| 17:36.18 | Crofton|work | talk on the list |
| 17:36.31 | Crofton|work | cool |
| 17:36.46 | Crofton|work | and we are interested in the troublesome spots |
| 17:37.46 | coldsoup | the problem wound up (partially) being that udev recipes from meta-oe doesn't put binaries in to /sbin like it should. So on syslinux bootup the /init script in initramfs can't find udevd. The oe-core version works just fine though. |
| 17:38.46 | coldsoup | I think that might only affect x86 since no one else probably uses syslinux |
| 17:39.23 | coldsoup | at least I'm done banging my head on the keyboard for the moment :-) |
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| 17:56.15 | Crofton|work | the problem is gnuradio tries to be all things to all people |
| 17:56.29 | Crofton|work | and that makes it hard to use effectievly on embedded systems |
| 17:56.50 | Crofton|work | we ccould try an alternate recipe more suited to your needs? |
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| 18:34.40 | GNUtoo | Crofton|work, hi, does the grc run on the E100 now? |
| 18:36.49 | Crofton|work | it can |
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| 19:19.08 | msm | (for denzil release before it was separated) |
| 19:20.42 | JaMa | msm: yes, don't pull any -systemd package to image and disable it explicitly in polkit |
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| 20:40.44 | SorenHolm | coldsoup: Did you find out anything? |
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