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| 06:04.43 | ivan____ | Greetings! I wrote yesterday about a problem with libtool-native. And to me have answered : "[16:35] <bluelightning> ivan____: try bitbake -c clean libtool-native ; bitbake -c clean gnu-config-native; bitbake gnu-config-native then retry your build" I tried, but after bitbake gnu-config-native deduces http://paste.org/pastebin/view/40393 And at attempt again to collect http://paste.org/pastebin/view/40394. There are still ideas? |
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| 08:44.47 | tasslehoff | following style from some other image recipes I've added http://pastebin.com/p95wdnsX to my image.bb. Should this be enough to override the usage of systemd in angstrom/oe-core? |
| 08:45.35 | tasslehoff | I have some issues w/systemd, and thought I'd try to make the other stuff I'm porting work before trying to sort out those issues |
| 08:56.36 | Jin^eLD | mornin |
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| 09:09.27 | Jin^eLD | hmm, I am reading through the setup scripts and I still do not get the idea of this layer.conf, what is the difference to local.conf and package collections? |
| 09:10.03 | Jin^eLD | and does one have to use the layer configuration now or is the classic way still supported (or is the classic configuration deprecated?) |
| 09:15.20 | Jin^eLD | hmm, from what I see in the layer config, its just a normal collection definiton... |
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| 10:30.27 | slapin | hi, all! |
| 10:30.31 | Jin^eLD | privet |
| 10:31.12 | slapin | Jin^eLD: how is your flash memory? |
| 10:31.37 | Jin^eLD | don't ask :) I almost booted from NFS yesterday, but something is wrong with my init script so I did not get a shell yet |
| 10:32.07 | slapin | Jin^eLD: init=/bin/sh? |
| 10:32.36 | Jin^eLD | that will do of course, I first wanted to see why the default init script is not working for me |
| 10:32.46 | Jin^eLD | because I will probably have the same problem on the flashed image |
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| 10:40.13 | Jin^eLD | if I plan to use the 2011.03 release, it's the 2011.03-maintenance branch? |
| 10:46.01 | slapin | Jin^eLD: dunno |
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| 11:33.43 | sassan | hi, does anyone know if there has been any work done on distributing oe builds across several machines at the task level (I know icecc can be used at a lower level). logically it should be very easy in homogenous environments with a shared filesystem (as is my case) and possible otherwise |
| 11:34.25 | tasslehoff | after changing IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER, what must I clean/rebuild? 'bitbake -c myimage' doesn't do the trick. |
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| 11:47.31 | sassan | tasslehoff: maybe add -f? |
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| 11:56.40 | tasslehoff | sassan: I'll try, but I suspect maybe there's another recipe that must be cleaned. the one that makes the symlink to /sbin/init maybe. |
| 11:57.22 | Jin^eLD | tasslehoff: for me the symlink was broken and was always pointing to busybox |
| 11:57.37 | Jin^eLD | I fixed it manually, I did not dig into why the symlink was incorrect |
| 11:59.25 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: for me /sbin/init points to /bin/systemd, but I want it to point to /sbin/init.sysvinit. are we talking about the same symlink? |
| 12:00.10 | Jin^eLD | hmm probably not, I was referring to /linuxrc :P |
| 12:00.40 | tasslehoff | :) |
| 12:01.12 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: I'm trying to boot with systemvinit instead of systemd, since something is broken on my system when using systemd |
| 12:02.07 | tasslehoff | thought to finish the porting from oe-classic to oe-core still using sysvinit, and then revisit systemd later |
| 12:02.22 | Jin^eLD | I know what you are trying to do; however I never used systemd so far and nothing tried to pull it in; so I did not run into your problem yet |
| 12:02.41 | Jin^eLD | what is oe-classic and oe-core? |
| 12:03.11 | Jin^eLD | is this http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Release-2011.03 not the "real" thing anymore? |
| 12:05.51 | Jin^eLD | would be nice if someone could explain that to me :) I hear the "classic" term popping up now ant then but don't really get the idea |
| 12:09.08 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded-Core |
| 12:09.24 | tasslehoff | people: why is this not on the frontpage of the wiki? |
| 12:09.33 | Jin^eLD | thanks, I totally missed that |
| 12:09.55 | tasslehoff | tasslehoff: no wonder :) |
| 12:10.00 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: ^ |
| 12:10.52 | Jin^eLD | doh :P |
| 12:10.55 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: I believe 2011.03 is the final release in classic, which will soon be made read only |
| 12:12.14 | Jin^eLD | that means there is no point to update my current 2008 stuff to 2011.03 |
| 12:12.28 | Jin^eLD | but I should rather migrate to oe-core, doh :( |
| 12:14.42 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: I think so. "Wasted" much time? |
| 12:15.41 | Jin^eLD | not yet, actually updating to a newer classic would be very easy for me |
| 12:16.06 | Jin^eLD | so actually changing my stuff to "core" will cost me some time... |
| 12:18.52 | Jin^eLD | core makes a more complicated impression on me |
| 12:19.46 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: I started out using the angstrom setup-scripts, which sets up most of what you need. |
| 12:20.22 | Jin^eLD | I do not like too much automagic |
| 12:22.20 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: not much automagic to it (for me at least). I've added my own meta-layer and setup everything the way I want there |
| 12:24.15 | Jin^eLD | hm, so I guess I am next in the line for the fight against systemd then...? |
| 12:24.17 | Jin^eLD | :P |
| 12:24.28 | tasslehoff | :) |
| 12:27.15 | Jin^eLD | and angstrom lives in an own git now as a layer, do I understand it correctly? |
| 12:27.24 | Crofton|work | yes |
| 12:27.55 | Jin^eLD | difficutl to look through what went where.. is there some migration guide? |
| 12:30.04 | Crofton|work | not really, this is something that needs improving |
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| 12:31.07 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: any hint or suggestion? or is the only thing I can do - go through each single package I am using to figure out in which repo it went and try to put it all together again? |
| 12:31.31 | Crofton | find is your friend :( |
| 12:31.35 | Jin^eLD | doh... |
| 12:31.46 | Crofton | use the oebb.sh script to get close to a working build |
| 12:34.35 | tasslehoff | hm. IMAGE_BOOT doesn't seem to be used anymore, actually |
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| 12:45.17 | Crofton | Jin^eLD, http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/LayerIndex |
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| 12:59.26 | Jin^eLD | yeah, thanks, I was already there looking at what is where |
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| 13:28.15 | slapin | I use oe-core for some new project, and for some requirement I need to use toolchain from layer (gcc-3.4-based with lots of patches), so I need to override oe-core toolchain and use one in layer for some images. Is it possible? |
| 13:29.05 | slapin | that is for mips without unaligned-access instructions |
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| 13:33.43 | pb_ | I'm not sure you can use gcc-3.4 with contemporary oe-core. Does that support sysroots? |
| 13:34.26 | pb_ | Using a toolchain from another layer is no problem in principle though. I think meta-oe has its own gcc for example. |
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| 13:46.42 | slapin | pb_: looks like it supports sysroot |
| 13:47.29 | slapin | at least it support --with-sysroot configure option |
| 13:47.38 | tasslehoff | bah. how do I change from systemd to sysvinit? currently I'm trying a postprocess command to remove /sbin/init and create a new symlink.. |
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| 13:50.07 | Jin^eLD | tasslehoff: you could run bitbake with the -g option and analyse the dependency graph to figure out what is puling in systemd |
| 13:53.18 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: that I've never tried before. thanks :) |
| 13:54.06 | Jin^eLD | tasslehoff: it will spit out .dot files that are more or less human-readable |
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| 14:02.07 | tasslehoff | hm. rsyslog seems to be the only one depending on it |
| 14:04.43 | Jin^eLD | only one is already more than you want :) |
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| 14:24.05 | tasslehoff | Jin^eLD: yeah. but I guess that both systemd and sysvinit can be installed at the same time. it's just the darn symlink I want to change now :) |
| 14:24.54 | Jin^eLD | well, does it install systemd in your rootfs? if yes, and if you do not want to use it - I'd make sure it does not go there at all... |
| 14:25.10 | Jin^eLD | otherwise I'd try to rigure out who creates that link |
| 14:25.28 | Jin^eLD | we'll see how fast I will get there ;) rigt now I am still messing around with migration to oe-core :P |
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| 14:41.56 | Jin^eLD | how exactly does this bbappend thing works? is there any documentation for it? |
| 14:42.55 | kergoth_ | add a glob for the bbappends to BBFILES, name the bbappend the same as the .bb |
| 14:43.43 | Jin^eLD | so *.bbappend is loaded on top of the *.bb and overwrites and/or extens whatever was defined in the .bb? |
| 14:43.44 | kergoth_ | that's it |
| 14:43.44 | kergoth_ | its content gets appended to the recipe metadata |
| 14:43.44 | kergoth_ | goes entirely by filename to associate bbappend to bb |
| 14:44.01 | kergoth_ | again, it gets appended |
| 14:44.10 | kergoth_ | its like concatenating it to the end of the recipe file |
| 14:44.12 | Jin^eLD | so if in the .bbappend I do a DEPENDS = instead of DEPENDS += ? |
| 14:44.24 | kergoth_ | then you'd replace the main depends, yes |
| 14:44.30 | kergoth_ | its no different from echo foo >> blah.bb |
| 14:44.38 | Jin^eLD | ok thanks, I get the idea |
| 14:44.51 | kergoth_ | np |
| 14:45.04 | Jin^eLD | is there a way to specify layer priorities? |
| 14:45.29 | kergoth_ | yes, that hasn't changed, same method we've used for like 5 years or something |
| 14:45.41 | kergoth_ | read the layer.conf in oe-core and meta-oe to see the methdo |
| 14:45.57 | Jin^eLD | ah ok, so the regular collection method still works |
| 14:46.10 | kergoth_ | BBFILE_PATTERN blahblah |
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| 14:46.23 | Jin^eLD | I see, thanks |
| 14:46.36 | kergoth_ | same stuff as usual, just how the layers are specified and where they're configured that changed |
| 14:46.42 | kergoth_ | bblayers -> layer.conf, but their content is the same |
| 14:46.45 | kergoth_ | bbpath, bbfiles, bbfile_* |
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| 14:49.14 | pb_ | slapin: that's not enough. does it support --sysroot at run time? |
| 14:49.40 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
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| 16:25.12 | otavio | bluelightning: Hello there ... |
| 16:25.25 | bluelightning | hi otavio |
| 16:25.30 | otavio | bluelightning: it seems I got an issue with combo-layer script once again heh |
| 16:25.53 | bluelightning | otavio: hmm ok, what happens? |
| 16:27.01 | otavio | bluelightning: it fails to apply a bitbake patch |
| 16:27.14 | otavio | commit 8e4e75383e43d6da2c16ec5286186a0d0569b0f8 |
| 16:27.15 | otavio | Author: Christopher Larson <kergoth@gmail.com> |
| 16:27.25 | kergoth_ | otavio: are you using it yourself for your own setup, or for poky, out of curiosity? |
| 16:28.22 | otavio | kergoth_: my own |
| 16:28.27 | kergoth_ | ah, cool |
| 16:28.39 | otavio | kergoth_: i am using it to maintain our internal tree |
| 16:28.45 | kergoth_ | how is that going for you? beyond this particular problem i mean :P |
| 16:28.55 | kergoth_ | is experimenting with using android's repo tool, himself |
| 16:29.03 | otavio | kergoth_: so far it is working well, I miss some useful features but it works quite well |
| 16:29.45 | kergoth_ | cool |
| 16:29.52 | otavio | kergoth_: it is easy to use and people that work on our tree doesn't even know it exist most of time as they mostly work in our internal layer |
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| 16:30.15 | otavio | kergoth_: so I am the one responsable to update it against current trees and then I do it once a week or so |
| 16:30.21 | kergoth_ | is it a pain to extract changes back out? thats why I didn't go with one like that.. i like to cd into the individual repositories and hack on things and push |
| 16:30.30 | kergoth_ | ahh, i see. since its just you responsiblel for that... |
| 16:30.35 | kergoth_ | less of an issue |
| 16:30.36 | kergoth_ | cool |
| 16:31.00 | otavio | kergoth_: what I do is to clone them and handle it by hand |
| 16:31.13 | otavio | kergoth_: so i commit the changes on the local repos on same tree |
| 16:31.35 | otavio | kergoth_: and then I do checkout -f on the root repo and use combo-update to sync what has been merged |
| 16:31.42 | martinambrose | Hi, anyone built a oe-core + meta-micro image lately? |
| 16:32.04 | kergoth_ | martinambrose: i tried it yesterday |
| 16:32.09 | kergoth_ | failed for micro-uclibc, but the eglibc one worked |
| 16:33.11 | bluelightning | otavio: well, it seems like the hook script is not the issue this time, I just checked and it's not doing anything nasty with the patch itself |
| 16:33.25 | otavio | bluelightning: any idea? |
| 16:33.42 | otavio | bluelightning: what worried me is that it seems to have applied the patch and fails after it |
| 16:33.48 | otavio | bluelightning: but it said it fails on it |
| 16:33.51 | martinambrose | thx. both failed for me. trying uclibc with ERROR_QA overridden. Which machine work for your eglibc build? |
| 16:33.58 | bluelightning | otavio: I guess I will have to set up a similar configuration to what you have |
| 16:34.47 | martinambrose | by moving dev-so to WARN_QA my micro-base-image built for qemuarm |
| 16:34.52 | kergoth_ | martinambrose: I was testing qemux86. |
| 16:35.01 | martinambrose | kk. thx |
| 16:35.17 | kergoth_ | ah, cool. I'll have to try that qa workaround, thanks for the tip |
| 16:35.19 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 16:35.26 | kergoth_ | I like how small the task # is when using micro :P |
| 16:44.15 | otavio | bluelightning: what I can do to help you with it? |
| 16:44.33 | bluelightning | otavio: I'm just setting up a test now, will let you know what I find |
| 16:44.44 | otavio | bluelightning: good |
| 16:44.45 | pb_ | which was the error you were getting with dev-so? |
| 16:44.55 | pb_ | I know libcidn is broken for eglibc but (afaik) uclibc should be ok |
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| 16:49.11 | martinambrose | it was a packaging error. the symlinks were placed in non -dev packages. |
| 16:49.47 | martinambrose | with all the split packages it doesn't look like auto packaging is currently feasible |
| 16:50.33 | pb_ | well, yes, I guessed that it was a packaging error from the fact that it was dev-so. |
| 16:50.43 | pb_ | I meant, which package and which file had the problem? |
| 16:51.18 | martinambrose | ah, ok. it was uclibc-thread-db |
| 16:52.28 | pb_ | righto, thanks |
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| 16:57.34 | ka6sox | pb_, do you think denix passes the Turing test? |
| 16:58.55 | pb_ | I guess he ought to, though I can't say I've ever tried it. |
| 16:59.00 | pb_ | why do you ask? |
| 17:00.51 | ka6sox | write permission on the wiki. |
| 17:01.19 | pb_ | aha |
| 17:01.36 | pb_ | well, I've met him in person and he seemed convincing then. |
| 17:07.05 | bluelightning | otavio: I think the problem is there was a merge commit; it doesn't handle those... |
| 17:07.31 | bluelightning | although I did not get an error I do see it's using an incorrect revision in the commit you mentioned |
| 17:13.23 | otavio | bluelightning: it might be |
| 17:13.29 | otavio | bluelightning: but it ought to handle those, no? |
| 17:13.43 | bluelightning | otavio: it ought to yes |
| 17:14.04 | bluelightning | otavio: I just never expected to see one in bitbake/oe-core... |
| 17:14.24 | otavio | bluelightning: I did the update and it did have no diff in the end |
| 17:14.32 | otavio | bluelightning: but it didn't work automatically |
| 17:14.42 | otavio | bluelightning: so it indeed ought to be realted to the merge |
| 17:14.48 | otavio | bluelightning: well, merge commits are common |
| 17:14.52 | otavio | bluelightning: imo it is critical |
| 17:15.02 | bluelightning | otavio: yes I know, I will fix it |
| 17:17.52 | otavio | bluelightning: when you're free, let's talk about the missing features of combo-update |
| 17:17.58 | otavio | bluelightning: so you can work on those too |
| 17:18.19 | bluelightning | otavio: ok sure, it'll probably be tomorrow if that's ok... |
| 17:18.29 | otavio | bluelightning: ok |
| 17:18.31 | otavio | bluelightning: good |
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| 17:25.30 | otavio | Is someone having trouble to package things that installs into lib64 as native? |
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| 17:44.06 | bluelightning | otavio: do you know what the original revision your bitbake repo was at when you ran the update that failed? |
| 17:47.05 | otavio | bluelightning: 6cae2d11f8e254a1d01bf294eef916ac43a1881b |
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| 17:48.09 | pb_ | martinambrose: mm, yes, it certainly is broken. weirdly it looks as though it has been broken for ages, and I can't see any way in which it would work on other distros either. |
| 17:48.42 | pb_ | the definition of FILES_uclibc-thread-db is just plain wrong, it needs to be more specific. |
| 17:49.00 | otavio | It seems dbus has a build-failure today |
| 17:49.02 | otavio | http://paste.debian.net/141845/ |
| 17:49.09 | otavio | Our autobuilder has just catched it |
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| 18:26.33 | denix | ka6sox, pb_: that's funny, you made my day! :) |
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| 18:39.18 | ka6sox | denix, :D |
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| 20:55.14 | msm | how does OE handle firmware blobs? |
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| 20:58.48 | stefan_schmidt | msm: a recipe pulls in the blob and places it at the needed folder for driver consumption. We have some magic for linux-firmware as well as recipes for marvel libertas firmware as examples |
| 21:00.18 | msm | next question: how does distro_tracking stuff come in to play? |
| 21:00.21 | msm | i see it's in the file |
| 21:00.24 | msm | is there some reporting tool? |
| 21:00.42 | stefan_schmidt | msm: no idea actually. Never had to play with it :) |
| 21:01.54 | msm | found 'bitbake world -f -c distro_check' |
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