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| 08:28.05 | bluelightning | morning all |
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| 11:26.55 | pwgen | what i the recommended way in creating a new kernel buid recipe ( e.g linux-3.0.4.bb with custom config ) |
| 11:27.28 | pwgen | s/what\ i/what\ is/ |
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| 11:58.41 | Oxymoron | Hi, is there a way to exclude a package from an image, that was included via RRECOMMENDS from another package? Why are RRECOMMENDed packages included in an image anyway? |
| 11:59.44 | JaMa | there is BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS, but at least for me it doesn't work |
| 12:03.03 | Oxymoron | Thanks, i will try that. |
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| 12:16.29 | Noor | HI all |
| 12:16.47 | Noor | while building bluez4 I am getting this error ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: bluez4 path /work/armv7a-vfp-neon-mgc-linux-gnueabi/bluez4-4.96-r2/packages-split/bluez4/lib/udev/.debug/hid2hci |
| 12:18.03 | Noor | secondly I think bluez sources are not placed on kernel.org |
| 12:18.22 | Noor | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/ does not have bluetooth dir now |
| 12:18.51 | Noor | we need to update the bluez4 and bluez-hcidump recipes |
| 12:21.07 | JaMa | bluez.org still poinsto to kernel.org for downloads.. so I guess there still isn't whole pub mirror populated after that security breach |
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| 12:38.50 | Noor | hhhmmm that means we have to wait |
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| 13:07.49 | otavio | Hello |
| 13:08.05 | otavio | I am having trouble to generate one image that works with getty |
| 13:08.20 | otavio | my sysvint keeps saying it cannot execute getty |
| 13:08.26 | otavio | any clue? |
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| 13:31.02 | JaMa | otavio: and do you have getty installed in /sbin? |
| 13:31.18 | otavio | checks |
| 13:31.22 | JaMa | otavio: you can have agetty only or in different path.. I had those too |
| 13:33.06 | otavio | JaMa: no getty; only agetty |
| 13:33.13 | otavio | JaMa: any idea why? |
| 13:33.37 | JaMa | depends on image and task |
| 13:34.20 | otavio | JaMa: I didn't find where it use alternatives to the getty |
| 13:34.23 | JaMa | otavio: task-core-basic.bb: mingetty \ |
| 13:34.58 | JaMa | but I don't know if your image depends on task-core-initscripts |
| 13:35.03 | lautriv | i try to start an oe-build in quemu and it fails at init of the framebuffer (SDL). even i have a bunch of SDL installed, there is neither /dev/fb0 nor /dev/fb/0 (debian) where could i start to dig ? |
| 13:36.13 | otavio | JaMa: I was depending on u-l-agetty |
| 13:36.52 | JaMa | then you have to alter inittab in your images |
| 13:37.13 | JaMa | or add u-a providing /sbin/getty to mingetty and u-l-agetty |
| 13:37.23 | JaMa | which is IMHO better |
| 13:37.55 | otavio | JaMa: I am rebuilding with mingetty |
| 13:37.58 | otavio | checks |
| 13:39.04 | otavio | JaMa: ahh easy |
| 13:39.14 | otavio | JaMa: it is on ready-only fs |
| 13:39.25 | otavio | JaMa: so u-a cannot be done |
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| 14:21.48 | lautriv | does sdl relay on a kernel-framebuffer ? |
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| 14:32.43 | bluelightning | lautriv: somewhat OT but it is capable of framebuffer output but can also use X or one of several other methods |
| 14:35.00 | mickey|office | eFfeM_work: ping |
| 14:36.11 | lautriv | bluelightning, not absolute OT because i try to emulate oe in qemu :D |
| 14:37.14 | bluelightning | lautriv: ah right, I see :) FYI I often view qemu output via ssh-forwarded X11 |
| 14:37.27 | bluelightning | not the fastest, but adequate for testing |
| 14:37.47 | bluelightning | and saves me from switching the keyboard/monitor over to my build box :) |
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| 14:51.14 | lautriv | pff....disconnected |
| 14:51.16 | lautriv | bluelightning, in my case qemu runs on the right box and complains about missing /dev/fb* . because i don't need qemu and SDL for anything else, i have to fiddle with it the first time and now i assume i have to reboot/load some fb. |
| 14:51.44 | bluelightning | lautriv: is DISPLAY set? |
| 14:52.22 | bluelightning | lautriv: SDL also has some environment variables that control its output: http://www.libsdl.org/docs/html/sdlenvvars.html |
| 14:53.36 | lautriv | bluelightning, it runs all from scripts delivered by angstrom and because SDL will try to access (nonexistent) /dev/fb* i guess that will not help. |
| 14:54.33 | bluelightning | lautriv: well, it shouldn't care if /dev/fb* exist if it's forced to output to X11... |
| 14:55.26 | lautriv | that's true but changing the env is NOT encouraged. did you try this ? |
| 14:55.48 | bluelightning | no I haven't, not with QEMU recently at any rate |
| 14:59.27 | lautriv | ok, changed --> export SDL_VIDEODRIVER="x11" gives me no avilable video-device. |
| 14:59.53 | bluelightning | and DISPLAY is set? |
| 15:00.00 | lautriv | yes |
| 15:00.10 | bluelightning | hmm, that is odd... |
| 15:00.21 | lautriv | echo $DISPLAY --> :0.0 |
| 15:00.33 | bluelightning | try :0 |
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| 15:02.32 | lautriv | nope |
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| 15:03.44 | lautriv | strange anyway because i modprobed first uvesafb and then fb and both did not bringup any /dev/fb. |
| 15:04.13 | GNUtoo | vesa is for x86 |
| 15:04.49 | lautriv | GNUtoo, sure but i need at least a fake to get qemu catching any fb |
| 15:04.57 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 15:05.22 | GNUtoo | uvesafb is for userspace vesafb if I understoof well |
| 15:05.45 | GNUtoo | maybe try a less complicated setup with the old 100% kernel based vesafb |
| 15:06.02 | lautriv | <-- hates emulation/virtualisation and usually runs on the right hardware :-) |
| 15:06.42 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 15:08.18 | lautriv | so, the only thing what brings a /dev/fb up is vga16fb, lemme see what happens now :-) |
| 15:12.39 | lautriv | ok, looks like my nvidia quadro fx and the propietary drivers are the problem :-(( |
| 15:13.12 | GNUtoo | cbrake, hi are you the one in charge of adding ssh keys to the openembedded server? |
| 15:13.47 | GNUtoo | lautriv, nouveau doesn't work? |
| 15:14.10 | GNUtoo | so you run it on real hardware or in qemu? |
| 15:15.14 | cbrake | GNUtoo: yes, I can do that |
| 15:15.48 | GNUtoo | ok because I had a problem with my hard disk this summer and my ssh key was destroyed among all my data |
| 15:16.12 | GNUtoo | and I can't push to contrib/shr branch because of that |
| 15:16.26 | lautriv | GNUtoo, Nouveau targets mainly the GForce, Nvidia/Xorg runs on a x86_64 SMP system where qemu should emulate the arm, rootfs is bilt and mounts via NFS but SDL fails. |
| 15:16.43 | lautriv | *built |
| 15:17.01 | GNUtoo | lautriv, ah sdk of qemu, not sdl inside qemu |
| 15:17.07 | GNUtoo | no idea |
| 15:17.48 | lautriv | that is ........i'll do some steps with my dogs, brings new ideas (hopefully) |
| 15:17.55 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 15:20.42 | GNUtoo | cbrake, should I send you a new key trough mail? |
| 15:21.03 | cbrake | GNUtoo: yes, please |
| 15:21.10 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 15:25.04 | GNUtoo | done |
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| 16:59.34 | otavio | Have someone make dbus postinst runnable at rootfs building? |
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| 17:06.20 | bluelightning | otavio: looks like it would be at least partially possible, and worthwhile effort... |
| 17:09.12 | otavio | bluelightning: I never played with the useradd class |
| 17:09.23 | otavio | bluelightning: are you willing to take a look on that? |
| 17:10.21 | bluelightning | otavio: I haven't used it yet either... I probably have too much to do in the time coming up to ELCE I'm afraid |
| 17:11.53 | otavio | fail to see how mingetty is integrated onto the image |
| 17:12.04 | otavio | mingetty doesn't call update-alternatives |
| 17:13.21 | bluelightning | otavio: I wouldn't have thought you'd use alternatives for something like getty, you wouldn't expect both to be installed at once |
| 17:13.39 | otavio | bluelightning: but there's something wrong |
| 17:13.58 | otavio | sysvinit-inittab sets it to /sbin/getty but noone provides it |
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| 17:51.39 | lautriv | GNUtoo, still around ? |
| 17:52.34 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 17:52.55 | lautriv | dude, you made my day, great thanks :-)))) |
| 17:56.08 | lautriv | GNUtoo, i was searching the error for my qemu/SDL problem and you mentioned nouveau. i was aware of this driver and perpetually had a look on it but my card (QuadroFX) was never supported. but after you mentioned it again, i thought "heh, it's kernel 3.0 maybe they improved so give it a shot" did so and success..........now running 3360x1080 on 2 24" Touchscreens very smooth :-) |
| 17:56.38 | GNUtoo | wow nice |
| 17:56.54 | lautriv | and with qemu on SDL |
| 17:57.50 | lautriv | just need to find the angstrom way of keyboard settings and can compile native code. |
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| 18:46.34 | JaMa | GNUtoo: module-autoload still works as before just double check if its g_ether or g-ether in used kernel |
| 18:47.47 | GNUtoo | ok btw I want to make 2 changes in meta-smartphone |
| 18:48.16 | GNUtoo | 1)add bluetooth support for om-gta02 defconfig => do I have to add it for om-gta01 too, I cannot test |
| 18:48.25 | GNUtoo | 2)add bluetooth to modules autoload |
| 18:48.32 | GNUtoo | bluetooth is composed of at least 3 modules |
| 18:48.44 | GNUtoo | hidp,bnep,rfcomm |
| 18:48.50 | GNUtoo | and btusb that was already there |
| 18:49.35 | GNUtoo | again for 2) I've no gta01 to test |
| 18:50.01 | GNUtoo | JaMaOff, ^^^ |
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| 19:23.53 | kergoth | hmm, gcc-runtime-nativesdk 4.6 fails to build, and 4.5.1 fails due to the use of -nostdlib++ |
| 19:24.00 | kergoth | khem: tried building the nativesdk stuff before? |
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| 19:28.28 | khem | kergoth: no I did not try it in long time |
| 19:28.40 | khem | what errors do u get |
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| 21:01.02 | zecke | otavio: hey, do you have a recent asterisk pbx recipe? |
| 21:01.32 | otavio | zecke: hey |
| 21:01.37 | otavio | zecke: not really |
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| 21:05.31 | zecke | otavio: thanks. :) |
| 21:07.53 | Crofton | zecke, you updating the asterisk recipe? |
| 21:11.49 | bluelightning | perhaps there could be a meta-telephony layer...? |
| 21:12.47 | otavio | I am having a hard time to get image-live booting ... crap ... |
| 21:20.25 | Crofton|work | bluelightning, too many layers ..... |
| 21:24.53 | zecke | Crofton: maybe not... not a big fan of asterisk... i need it for a quick hack. |
| 21:25.14 | bluelightning | Crofton|work: I think more layers are fine as long as they are maintained and reasonably focused |
| 21:25.50 | zecke | heading to bed. |
| 21:25.53 | zecke | cheers |
| 21:33.25 | Crofton|work | yeah, I am just having a hard tiem finding stuff |
| 21:34.13 | kergoth | Crofton|work: isn't there a wiki page to track what layers are where now? that's a start, anyway.. would be nice to have a search engine for them, though.. |
| 21:34.14 | kergoth | heh |
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| 22:07.19 | kergoth | khem: | work/i686-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/gcc-runtime-nativesdk-4.6.1+svnr178924-r16/gcc-4_6-branch/build.i686-oesdk-linux.i686-oesdk-linux/libstdc++-v3/include/tuple:97:29: error: parameter 'std::__future_base::_State_base* const& __h' is not of literal type |
| 22:27.50 | Crofton|work | kergoth, we have a huge problem with stale wiki pages |
| 22:28.10 | kergoth | true, but this one in particular was updated quite recently, afaik |
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| 23:28.10 | khem | kergoth: Whats your build host ? and what version of gcc is installed |
| 23:29.17 | khem | Crofton|work: How is your oe-core port going on |
| 23:29.27 | khem | ready with 7 layer burrito yet :) |
| 23:32.17 | Crofton|work | I've started to id missing bits |
| 23:32.21 | Crofton|work | which is good |
| 23:35.59 | kergoth | khem: old :) I do a fair number of builds on an old centos 5.4 box, mostly so the sstate packages are most likely to be reusable on as many other hosts as possible |
| 23:36.07 | kergoth | i'll give it a shot on ubuntu 11.04 |
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| 23:41.21 | khem | kergoth: usually it should not be a problem but I have to understand the interaction a bit here |
| 23:41.37 | khem | kergoth: can you post the complete compile log somewhere |
| 23:41.44 | kergoth | I didn't even consider that it might be the build machine's toolchain that was the problem |
| 23:42.00 | kergoth | going to verify that it doesn't happen on another machine, then will wrap up a log |
| 23:43.51 | khem | ok |
| 23:44.21 | khem | mostly, its like that libstdc++ libgcc are tightly coupled to gcc versions |
| 23:44.36 | khem | but then it should have used gcc 4.6 to compile the file in question |
| 23:44.43 | khem | if not then we have to figure out why |
| 23:45.44 | kergoth_ | nods |
| 23:45.56 | kergoth_ | okay, thanks for the help, will probably come back with more info tomorrow |
| 23:47.51 | khem | ok |
| 23:49.14 | khem | crappy wireless |