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| 05:43.07 | CIA-127 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r82e76a4d64 10openembedded.git/recipes/navit/navit_svn.bb: |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-127 | navit_svn: return trailing space to SRC_URI |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-127 | * so that existing appends are not broken |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-127 | * it was removed in f8a2cccaca84bd3748e8733ac592ade5c5b8eeec |
| 05:43.07 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 07:49.16 | CIA-127 | 03Joel A Fernandes <agnel.joel@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r14795a3217 10openembedded.git/recipes/beagleboard/beagleboard-test-scripts_git.bb: |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-127 | beagleboard-test-scripts: BeagleBoard userbutton detection for flashing |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-127 | * Build and install a userbutton tool to detect state of the user button on a BeagleBoard from /dev/input/event0 |
| 07:49.16 | CIA-127 | * Install a user.txt and uEnv.txt to /boot, Narcissus will copy from here to the FAT partition of an SD Card |
| 07:49.17 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Joel A Fernandes <agnel.joel@gmail.com> |
| 07:49.17 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 07:49.50 | CIA-127 | 03chase maupin <chasemaupin03@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2913806fc8 10openembedded.git/recipes/nodejs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:49.50 | CIA-127 | nodejs: Add patch to compile with GCC 4.3.3 |
| 07:49.50 | CIA-127 | * Add a patch to nodejs to allow compiling with GCC versions |
| 07:49.50 | CIA-127 | less than or equal to 4.3.3. |
| 07:49.50 | CIA-127 | * Define the function nodejs_get_gcc_ver to allow applying the |
| 07:49.51 | CIA-127 | patch conditionally based on compiler version. |
| 07:49.51 | CIA-127 | * Patch based on post at https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/883 |
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| 08:36.27 | JaMa | someone also having "4.6.1/ld: cannot find -lm" while building gcc-runtime? |
| 08:36.41 | JaMa | just did build from scratch and it's the same |
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| 08:37.31 | JaMa | also missing "eglibc-2.13-r8+svnr14157/image/usr/bin/localedef and eglibc-2.13-r8+svnr14157/image/usr/lib/gconv" in eglibc-2.13 do_locale_install |
| 08:48.15 | ant_work | JaMa: I've seen complaints, yes. Still using 2.12 (Angstrom) |
| 08:48.49 | JaMa | 2.13 worked before here.. |
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| 08:55.43 | bluelightning | morning all |
| 08:55.50 | pb_ | It worked ok for me last time I tried. Let me do a fresh build now. |
| 08:55.54 | pb_ | hi bluelightning |
| 08:56.02 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 08:56.29 | pb_ | I think I built from scratch on friday anyway, and rp doesn't appear to have landed any changes since then so I would expect it still to work. but who knows. |
| 08:56.43 | pb_ | rm -rf tmp* sstate-cache |
| 08:57.26 | JaMa | pb_: thanks |
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| 08:58.30 | pb_ | ok, it's running now, be a few minutes before it gets to gcc-runtime |
| 09:15.56 | ant_work | pb_: what about the report of broken thumb code generation? |
| 09:16.38 | ant_work | I forgot to verify the binaries.. |
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| 09:21.13 | pb_ | ant_work: I didn't see that report |
| 09:21.23 | pb_ | was it on some list? |
| 09:21.28 | ant_work | here on irc |
| 09:21.33 | pb_ | ah, I must have missed it |
| 09:21.38 | pb_ | can you re-paste the complaint? |
| 09:21.41 | ant_work | ensc|w |
| 09:22.54 | ant_work | 11:42.43ensc|wwhy does gcc-configure-cross.inc in oe-core defines do_compile_prepend() but not do_configure_prepend()? Old OE modified configure() and new variant makes build fail when '-mthumb' is required for target arch |
| 09:23.16 | pb_ | oh, yeah, I did see that |
| 09:23.21 | pb_ | I think he's probably right |
| 09:23.24 | ant_work | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23oe/20110718.html.gz |
| 09:23.35 | ant_work | around 12 0clock |
| 09:23.46 | ensc|w | ant_work: real (or other) problem is in zecke-xgcc-cpp.patch |
| 09:23.58 | ant_work | hi, tried to avoid pasting |
| 09:24.18 | ensc|w | XGCC_FLAGS_FOR_TARGET should be set for CPP too |
| 09:24.55 | ant_work | so you expect the binaries in rootfs could be b0rked? |
| 09:25.26 | ensc|w | no; toolchain will not build for thumb-only archs |
| 09:26.07 | ant_work | iirc Angstrom was thumb-only (in oe-dev) |
| 09:26.11 | ensc|w | I am in doubt that anything except ./configure cares about cpp -E |
| 09:26.20 | ant_work | :p |
| 09:26.51 | ant_work | for armv7 |
| 09:27.00 | ant_work | well, seems false alarm then |
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| 09:28.07 | ensc|w | ant_work: problem appears as |
| 09:28.07 | ensc|w | $ echo | arm-linux-uclibceabi-gcc -mcpu=cortex-m3 -E - |
| 09:28.07 | ensc|w | <stdin>:1:0: error: target CPU does not support ARM mode |
| 09:28.27 | ant_work | heh |
| 09:28.44 | ensc|w | you have to specify -mthumb explicitly |
| 09:29.01 | pb_ | yeah, that's always seemed a little bit bogus to me |
| 09:29.03 | ant_work | I've seen this caused funny flames about linux-boot |
| 09:29.19 | pb_ | I'm not quite sure why gcc requires you to give this extra "please make it work" option |
| 09:29.51 | pb_ | you'd think that -mthumb should just be the default for cortex-m and -mno-thumb should be an error. |
| 09:30.18 | ensc|w | yes; I would expect it too |
| 09:30.25 | pb_ | but, anyway, I agree, it should be using the same flags for cpp as it does for gcc. |
| 09:31.24 | pb_ | there are a few other possible cases where configure does "echo "#ifndef __something__\n#error xx\n#endif" | gcc -E and gets the wrong results if the flags are incorrect |
| 09:35.36 | JaMa | pb_: I'll try again clean rebuild with added P_V_eglibc-locale.. http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=shr&id=88620d7609ebc998eb68cc6266f9917ec4d8f0c6 |
| 09:38.11 | pb_ | NOTE: package gcc-runtime-4.6.0+svnr175150-r9: task do_compile: Succeeded |
| 09:38.13 | pb_ | seems ok |
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| 09:47.33 | pb_ | micro-base-image completed successfully |
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| 09:56.16 | bluelightning | pb_: so, how micro is micro these days? (I've not looked at it but I presume from the name the aim is very small size) |
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| 10:48.12 | pb_ | bluelightning: right now, a micro-image-build for micro-uclibc on i586 is about 2.3MB before compressing. |
| 10:48.29 | pb_ | it used to be a bit smaller than that in oe.dev, we seem to have picked up some bloat in the move to oe-core. |
| 10:48.37 | bluelightning | that's still pretty small :) |
| 10:48.52 | bluelightning | presumably there are some optimisations that can be done |
| 10:49.16 | pb_ | as for the aim, yeah, basically small size and suitability for actual embedded use (rather than a general-purpose distro that happens to run on "embedded" hardware) |
| 10:49.25 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:49.35 | pb_ | for example I just noticed that libgcc_s.so.1 doesn't appear to be getting stripped for some reason |
| 10:49.50 | pb_ | and we seem to have 200k of garbage in /etc |
| 10:50.21 | bluelightning | presumably that 2.3mb is without package management? |
| 10:50.25 | pb_ | yeah |
| 10:50.43 | pb_ | it does include dropbear as a concession to interactive debugging, but no package management |
| 10:51.15 | pb_ | total of 361 files and directories according to "find . | wc -l" |
| 10:52.05 | pb_ | the same thing with eglibc is about 1MB bigger, iirc |
| 10:52.42 | pb_ | (more or less a direct and obvious consequence of glibc itself being that much bigger than uclibc) |
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| 11:02.58 | JaMa | pb_: failed the same again.. I will try to debug why, thanks for test |
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| 11:07.26 | ant_work | pb_: yes about the bloat: I see that even in the initramfs images |
| 11:07.43 | ant_work | in my case just empty dirs |
| 11:09.39 | pb_ | yeah. some empty dirs, some random files that we don't want. |
| 11:09.59 | pb_ | I also seem to be getting a populated static /dev again even though we are meant to be using devtmpfs nowadays |
| 11:10.11 | pb_ | not quite sure what's gone wrong there |
| 11:10.23 | ant_work | heh, 'defaults' |
| 11:11.05 | ant_work | image.bbclass |
| 11:11.09 | ant_work | if devtables == None: |
| 11:11.10 | pb_ | oh, and sysvinit is still installing a bunch of useless-ish binaries (eg wall). I think it always did that though. |
| 11:11.11 | ant_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.58 | pb_ | ah right, yeah |
| 11:16.18 | ant_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.36 | ant_work | afaik even with devtmpfs we need /dev/console |
| 11:17.31 | pb_ | really? I think if you set devtmpfs to auto-mounting then you shouldn't need anything in /dev on the image |
| 11:17.48 | ant_work | auto-mounting doesn't work for initramfs |
| 11:17.52 | pb_ | ah |
| 11:17.53 | ant_work | must be done by hand |
| 11:17.59 | pb_ | okay, that makes sense then |
| 11:18.16 | pb_ | in that case, yeah, probably do need /dev/console in the initramfs |
| 11:18.20 | ant_work | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh |
| 11:18.28 | ant_work | seems the only node |
| 11:19.58 | ant_work | btw, I tend to forget you can 'stack' those initramfs's |
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| 13:00.41 | CIA-127 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * r5ca8109054 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:00.41 | CIA-127 | linux-nokia900-meego: update defconfig to build at least kernel-module-tun |
| 13:00.41 | CIA-127 | * some people like me are using openvpn with tun/tap |
| 13:00.41 | CIA-127 | * it was removed in 6a65a05de26f7875ea0cc0d03f09c14c4d151ad2 |
| 13:00.41 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 14:04.43 | gchiii | does anyone have an "idiots guide" to adding a custom user to the 2011.03-maintenance branch? |
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| 15:23.32 | celston_ | Good afternoon/morning/evening all. |
| 15:23.46 | kergoth_ | ~ugt |
| 15:23.46 | ibot | well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:23.52 | kergoth_ | morning :) |
| 15:24.14 | celston_ | :) |
| 15:25.13 | celston_ | I have a vendor driver package which wants to see the kernel source tree in order to compile. How would I do that in my recipe for this package? It has out-of-tree drivers. |
| 15:25.49 | celston_ | It would be nice if it could be a disposable kernel tree, in case I don't trust this vendor package to not mess it up. |
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| 15:33.22 | celston_ | is STAGING_KERNEL_DIR what I hope it is? |
| 15:35.22 | Tartarus | yeah it is |
| 15:36.08 | pb_ | bluelightning: so, I was inspired to remove a bit of bloat from uclibc and busybox. micro-base-image now down to 1.9MB after manually stripping libgcc |
| 15:36.29 | pb_ | not quite sure what's causing the unstripped library, I suspect db99a65b3e93dfacc27ea821c788f15b5de3a497 is probably to blame but need to confirm that |
| 15:36.34 | bluelightning | pb_: cool :) |
| 15:37.33 | bluelightning | pb_: are you using linux-yocto for the kernel or linux.inc based? any customisations? |
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| 15:37.47 | pb_ | I'm just about to try using linux-yocto |
| 15:38.25 | pb_ | I had previously been put off that because it seemed to be a bit scary and yoctoish but it seems worth a try. |
| 15:38.48 | bluelightning | pb_: it is quite different, definitely |
| 15:38.55 | bluelightning | pb_: apparently darren hart (dvhart) is working on an ongoing project to remove kernel bloat, based on linux-yocto |
| 15:39.19 | pb_ | yeah. I am still a bit unclear what exactly the goals of linux-yocto are, and what exactly I should expect to be different from the upstream kernel |
| 15:39.50 | pb_ | I did send a note to the list last week asking about it, and I got a fairly lengthy essay from Bruce Ashfield in response but, unfortunately, he omitted to actually answer the question. |
| 15:40.17 | bluelightning | pb_: well there's always Darren's ELC talk if you haven't already seen that |
| 15:40.23 | pb_ | ah, no, I hadn't seen that |
| 15:40.37 | bluelightning | I can dig up the link if you like |
| 15:40.44 | pb_ | that would be handy, thanks |
| 15:40.48 | kergoth_ | iirc wind river has some sort of different workflow stuff based on it, and assembly of chunks of config files into a single defconfig, or similar, but I'm not sure about actual content |
| 15:40.49 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 15:41.01 | pb_ | not cool enough to go to elc |
| 15:41.21 | pb_ | kergoth: oh right, sounds funky |
| 15:41.33 | bluelightning | pb_: http://free-electrons.com/blog/elc-2011-videos/ |
| 15:41.37 | pb_ | thanks |
| 15:41.39 | bluelightning | just search for his name |
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| 15:43.03 | pb_ | doh, what?! crazy bitbake seems to be trying to check gcc out from svn all over again. I'm sure I already have about eight copies of that tarball on hand. |
| 15:43.10 | pb_ | must have forgotten to set DL_DIR or something |
| 15:43.15 | pb_ | stabs self in eye |
| 15:43.29 | bluelightning | pb_: that sounds painful :( |
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| 15:44.46 | pb_ | oh, I see, svn rev went backwards when I reverted that patch |
| 15:44.56 | pb_ | gotta just wait it out I suppose |
| 15:45.25 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 15:45.34 | bluelightning | not sure if you're using them in micro, but when building angstrom at home I've found the angstrom mirrors are so darn slow it's easier to just turn them off |
| 15:45.59 | bluelightning | in particular the gcc svn snapshots were downloading agonizingly slowly |
| 15:46.06 | woglinde | bluelightning narcissus eats all the power |
| 15:46.08 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 15:46.21 | woglinde | or you got the us mirror |
| 15:46.24 | bluelightning | woglinde: yeah, it's definitely overloaded AFAICT |
| 15:46.33 | pb_ | ah, here we go, I found a copy of the tarball on another machine |
| 15:46.39 | pb_ | back in business now |
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| 15:46.47 | pb_ | I don't think I'm using the angstrom mirrors. |
| 15:47.15 | pb_ | what host do they run on, discovery? |
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| 15:47.46 | woglinde | the virtualbox mirrors are overloaded too |
| 15:47.47 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 15:49.45 | pb_ | fwiw, discovery has load 0.22, doesn't seem to be a problem there. |
| 15:49.56 | guyvdb_ | Hi, I am stuck... I cannot get a clean build on head of master branch at the moment. My problem is I have a working kernel & fs but cannot figure out where in the tree it was built from. At boot it says "Angstrom 2010.7-test-20101125 mini2440 ttySAC0" any idea where it gets this text from/how I can find this in the git repos history? |
| 15:50.00 | pb_ | I think there might be an apache configuration issuette of some kind though, it does seem to be going a bit slow |
| 15:50.19 | pb_ | guyvdb_: sounds like a question for #angstrom |
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| 15:50.55 | guyvdb_ | oops lost connection |
| 15:51.33 | woglinde | guyvdb_ its build from the kernelsources |
| 15:53.04 | guyvdb_ | I am trying to track down the point (approximate) in the openembedded git repos where I built it... i.e. a commit uuid |
| 15:53.41 | woglinde | ? |
| 15:53.48 | guyvdb_ | could I not find the text Angstrom 2010.7-test-20101125 in the repos somewhere? |
| 15:53.51 | woglinde | the kernel as a recipe |
| 15:55.36 | pb_ | er, does that text really come from the kernel? |
| 15:55.39 | guyvdb_ | basically the kernel and filesystem that I was building on head of the repos was working great although I had not updated much so it was pretty old. I have now done a git pull and my board hangs after populating udev... i do not know if it is the kernel of the fs |
| 15:55.44 | pb_ | it sounds more like /etc/issue to me, that's not a kernel thing |
| 15:55.51 | pb_ | but, anyway, this is still a question for #angstrom |
| 15:55.58 | guyvdb_ | no the text is at the login prompt... |
| 15:56.14 | JaMa | guyvdb_: and in /etc/angstrom-version? |
| 15:57.00 | guyvdb_ | ahh ok got a revision number there |
| 15:57.04 | woglinde | guyvdb_ its udev |
| 15:57.09 | woglinde | which hangs |
| 15:57.15 | woglinde | gm ka6sox |
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| 15:57.32 | ka6sox | morning woglinde |
| 15:57.36 | guyvdb_ | ok let me reboot with new kernel and pastie the console... one min |
| 15:58.22 | woglinde | guyvbd try http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ might be faster for you |
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| 16:00.34 | woglinde | < woglinde> guyvbd try http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ might be faster for you |
| 16:00.37 | woglinde | ups |
| 16:00.40 | woglinde | -> |
| 16:00.42 | woglinde | *g* |
| 16:00.49 | guyvdb_ | ok so when I build from my current git repos my machine hangs with hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc': No such file or directory |
| 16:01.32 | woglinde | no its udev |
| 16:01.35 | guyvdb_ | woglinde I have been building rootfs/kernel a number of times before... this is only occuring since my last pull of the repos |
| 16:01.39 | woglinde | believe me |
| 16:01.47 | woglinde | yes |
| 16:02.01 | guyvdb_ | so were in udev? Should I look at udev rules? |
| 16:02.05 | woglinde | you didnt update for half an year |
| 16:02.27 | guyvdb_ | yup |
| 16:02.27 | woglinde | oe-cache stuff for udev |
| 16:03.20 | guyvdb_ | woglinde can you give a suggestion for me to move forward? what should i investigate? |
| 16:04.01 | guyvdb_ | woglinde here is full output of console on boot http://pastie.org/2237858 |
| 16:04.16 | woglinde | I know the console output |
| 16:04.23 | woglinde | as I said |
| 16:04.32 | woglinde | try first narcissus to build you an image |
| 16:04.40 | woglinde | than look which version are installed |
| 16:04.53 | guyvdb_ | ok |
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| 16:06.37 | guyvdb_ | woglinde should i build it with udev as the /dev manager? On Narcissus |
| 16:07.11 | woglinde | why not |
| 16:07.17 | woglinde | depends on your needs |
| 16:07.27 | woglinde | I can't tell you your needs |
| 16:13.35 | pb_ | thinking of libgcc_s, does anybody remember what the construct is that requires it to be installed? |
| 16:13.41 | pb_ | something to do with thread cancellation, if I remember right |
| 16:13.53 | guyvdb_ | woglinde: ok the rootfs from Narcissus booted fine with the kernel I built ... now to figure out what I am doing wrong |
| 16:14.59 | woglinde | pb sorry no |
| 16:14.59 | guyvdb_ | ok that is built from a diffenet branch to me... let me check that out... thx for the help woglinde |
| 16:15.04 | woglinde | khem might know |
| 16:15.13 | woglinde | guyvdb_ sure nor prob |
| 16:15.26 | pb_ | yeah, I guess I can look back in the old logs or something |
| 16:15.34 | pb_ | it'd be nice to get rid of it, even stripped it's 200kB or so |
| 16:16.09 | ka6sox | pb_, do you know of any reason that melo would have ntop running as a daemon? |
| 16:16.12 | woglinde | pb uhm 200kb is nothing |
| 16:16.18 | woglinde | we have 32 gig mmc now |
| 16:16.19 | pb_ | ka6sox: nope. |
| 16:16.32 | pb_ | woglinde: well, 200kB is more than 10% of my current image size |
| 16:16.35 | ka6sox | pb_, thanks |
| 16:16.41 | woglinde | pb ah |
| 16:16.45 | woglinde | pb .so or .a? |
| 16:16.50 | pb_ | .so |
| 16:17.01 | woglinde | hm you could look at the symbols |
| 16:17.06 | woglinde | readelf *g* |
| 16:17.08 | pb_ | and, sure, you can buy a 32GB MMC but it still costs a finite amount of money |
| 16:17.22 | pb_ | (and most of the cheap ones are garbage) |
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| 16:17.49 | woglinde | pb hm my transced 8 gig class10 for 11 euros are okay |
| 16:17.55 | pb_ | woglinde: well, I know what symbols are in it, that's not really the point |
| 16:18.09 | pb_ | woglinde: all the transcend ones we have tested have been useless |
| 16:18.30 | pb_ | they seem to just start randomly losing data after a while |
| 16:19.35 | woglinde | hm my not |
| 16:19.43 | woglinde | and buffered them a lot |
| 16:19.55 | woglinde | with swap sometimes and compiling |
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| 16:20.27 | pb_ | oh well, I guess you have been lucky |
| 16:20.52 | woglinde | yeah maybee |
| 16:20.52 | pb_ | with almost every one we have tried, if you put a big file (eg a movie or something) on the card and then read it a few thousand times, after a while the data you get back becomes corrupt. |
| 16:21.04 | woglinde | but sure afterwars a I ordered them |
| 16:21.14 | woglinde | a looked up some reports about them |
| 16:21.29 | woglinde | hm oh |
| 16:21.33 | woglinde | didnt test with movie |
| 16:21.52 | pb_ | go home now |
| 16:21.53 | pb_ | later all |
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| 16:22.43 | woglinde | till later pb |
| 16:23.15 | celston_ | One man's trivial space saving is another's 2 cents / pence / eurocents off the BOM |
| 16:23.53 | bluelightning | cya pb_ |
| 16:25.59 | guyvdb_ | woglinde just to confirm the current repo is : git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded ? |
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| 16:31.18 | guyvdb_ | hmm If i do a git branch -l I only have a master branch from git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded but the build Narcissus did for me was from branch 2011.03-maintenance what am I missing? Do I have a clone of an old repo? |
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| 16:32.43 | woglinde | branch |
| 16:32.50 | woglinde | type git branch -r |
| 16:32.56 | woglinde | you will see all remote branches |
| 16:33.38 | kergoth | guyvdb_: read Pro Git |
| 16:33.55 | guyvdb_ | k .. gonna have a google |
| 16:34.10 | kergoth | anyone know how to disable a touchpad in X? I keep bumping the damn thing and selecting things i don't want to |
| 16:34.19 | kergoth | at the very least i want to disable tap-to-click |
| 16:34.22 | kergoth | hrm |
| 16:35.57 | woglinde | hm input section in xorg.conf? |
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| 16:36.11 | woglinde | but that isnt well documented |
| 16:47.41 | kergoth | hmm, anyone play with tmux or byobu? |
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| 17:05.06 | darknighte | kergoth: I have, why do you ask? |
| 17:05.40 | kergoth | just curious about people's thoughts. debating diving into tmux to replace screen, but byobu looks quite convenient |
| 17:06.52 | darknighte | I've used both and the only real difference that I've noticed is that ability to divide the screen vertically in tmux. |
| 17:06.58 | kergoth | nods |
| 17:07.03 | kergoth | screen can too, but only if its patched, which sucks a bit |
| 17:07.15 | darknighte | I didn't know that. |
| 17:09.13 | ka6sox | I use byobu |
| 17:09.16 | kergoth | http://thechangelog.com/post/3164295957/teamocil-ruby-yaml-tmux-layouts is rather cute, too, in the tmux area |
| 17:09.22 | kergoth | ka6sox: ah, cool |
| 17:09.53 | ka6sox | makes things consistent. |
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| 17:16.04 | ka6sox | both are nice....I just have been using screen for like 20+yrs. |
| 17:16.14 | ka6sox | so got used to it |
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| 17:16.29 | kergoth | yeah, I know what you mean |
| 17:16.43 | ka6sox | bbiab...heading to office |
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| 17:21.39 | pb_ | Tartarus: do you feel like backporting f6433e75a047a2d38ab60efea8a7ab7cc3dcd822 from oe.dev to oe-core by any chance? |
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| 17:23.14 | Tartarus | It needs to but it's not high on my list if you wanna do it for me :) |
| 17:23.34 | pb_ | righto |
| 17:23.50 | pb_ | I am standing by for an impending visit from my mother in law right now, but I will do it tomorrow if I get a moment |
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| 17:26.57 | Tartarus | thanks |
| 17:27.12 | Tartarus | really wants to get his current tangents done so he can get back to siteinfo |
| 17:27.48 | fray | BTW working on the multilib and tuning stuff.. |
| 17:28.01 | fray | there are a few siteinfo tables scattered.. it would REALLY be nice if that stuff could move to the tuning files.. |
| 17:28.16 | fray | 'er.. not siteinfo, I mean architecture info, related to the siteinfo |
| 17:28.27 | fray | like the get_siteinfo_list... |
| 17:28.33 | Tartarus | yeah, urk |
| 17:28.43 | Tartarus | need to get RP to finish reviewing the main patch I sent there |
| 17:28.51 | Tartarus | Since that will make life much easier I hope for multilib |
| 17:29.03 | fray | I head back on vacation (ComicCon) tomorrow.. |
| 17:29.16 | fray | BTW I have an oe-core branch now for the multilib stuff.. |
| 17:30.44 | darknighte | fray: Ah, I was in SD last week. |
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| 17:31.39 | fray | works on pushing out his oe-core/multilib stuff.. |
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| 17:51.38 | khem | kergoth: is there any advantage of using files/ folder instead of ${PN} folder to hold the recipe patches |
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| 17:56.43 | Tartarus | msm: Can you go down the hall, I'm assuming anyhow, and remind galak he should be hanging out in here now that he's posting oe-core patches? ;) |
| 17:57.04 | kergoth | khem: only if the file needs to be available to mjultiple recipes with different names, which is unlikely |
| 17:57.37 | kergoth | khem: for the case where there's one recipe in the recipes dir, I always preferred 'files' as it bugs me to repeat the recipe name like 42 times in the path, but it seems like the preference is for ${BPN} nowadays |
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| 17:58.08 | msm | Tartarus: haha, yea. he tends to avoid irc because too many people bug him⦠I can serve as his liaison. |
| 17:58.41 | Tartarus | heh |
| 17:59.26 | Tartarus | Don't have anything too big to bug him about, just wanna make sure that with that series we're still normally ending up as linux-powerpc-gnuspe and that openssl is just odd |
| 17:59.39 | Tartarus | since i'd swear we don't usually have linux-gnueabi-arm |
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| 18:07.04 | msm | Tartarus: i mentioned your request to gim |
| 18:07.08 | msm | him* |
| 18:07.26 | Tartarus | k |
| 18:07.28 | Tartarus | thanks |
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| 19:44.31 | fray | perhaps a silly question is there a way to tell python I no longer care about a variable so it can clean up the memory behind it? |
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| 19:47.23 | khem | fray: python has a gc |
| 19:47.25 | incandescant | fray: 'del' - http://docs.python.org/reference/simple_stmts.html#del |
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| 19:48.08 | fray | khem, I know.. but I wanted to set the life span of a variable myself.. to the inside of a for ... in ..: statement |
| 19:48.18 | khem | for scope |
| 19:48.33 | fray | I believe if I don't use del, then the variable will hang around until the end of the function.. since scoping appears to be on the function side.. |
| 19:49.23 | khem | yes |
| 19:49.35 | khem | its either func level or global |
| 19:49.59 | khem | although you can use nested function |
| 19:50.06 | fray | ya.. I'm making a copy of 'd'.. so I want it to be even less to avoid huge swarms of memory hanging over a function that may take a while to execute |
| 19:50.09 | khem | and then scope will limit to the inner function |
| 19:50.19 | fray | the gc can do it's thing whenever |
| 19:50.59 | khem | heh you are looking for free() equivalent it seems |
| 19:51.31 | fray | ya.. del should work |
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| 19:53.31 | khem | fray: actually python has block scope |
| 19:53.38 | khem | and global scope to be precice |
| 19:53.41 | khem | precise |
| 19:53.56 | khem | blocks can be functions |
| 19:54.56 | khem | so when you do b = list(a + i for i in range(10)) |
| 19:55.07 | khem | then i is scoped to that block only within a function |
| 19:55.16 | fray | makes sense |
| 19:55.27 | khem | you could use something like that |
| 19:55.36 | khem | although I dont know what you are trying to do |
| 19:57.34 | fray | some prototype code.. so it'll get heavily reviewed (I assume).. so if del isn't right, someone should catch it |
| 19:57.48 | woglinde | hi khem |
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| 19:59.29 | woglinde | hoi kergoth |
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| 20:06.18 | CIA-127 | 03Christopher Larson <kergoth@gmail.com> 07master * r807fb0b3bb 10bitbake.git/lib/bb/cache.py: |
| 20:06.18 | CIA-127 | cache: fix remnant broken 'info' reference from recent cache changes |
| 20:06.18 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Christopher Larson <kergoth@gmail.com> |
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| 20:08.16 | ensc | what were to reasons to move opkg's statedir from /usr/share into /var? This makes upgrading impossible when /var is on a tmpfs. |
| 20:10.16 | CIA-127 | 03Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07master * rf9f1458cb9 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/libmsmhll_git.bb: |
| 20:10.17 | CIA-127 | libmsmhll: add the hci link layer implementation library fo msmcomm |
| 20:10.17 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 20:10.27 | CIA-127 | 03Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07master * rc171f15176 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/msmcomm.inc: |
| 20:10.27 | CIA-127 | msmcomm: bump SRCREV for latest updates |
| 20:10.27 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 20:10.28 | CIA-127 | 03Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07master * r394db2469c 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-palmpre_git.bb: |
| 20:10.28 | CIA-127 | linux-palmpre: bump SRCREV for latest updates |
| 20:10.28 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 20:10.28 | CIA-127 | 03Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07master * r7fd50fc9cf 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/msmcommd_git.bb: |
| 20:10.28 | CIA-127 | msmcommd: add libmsmhll as dependency and bump PR |
| 20:10.29 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 20:10.29 | CIA-127 | 03Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07master * re561219496 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-127 | linux-palmpre: update defconfig and bump MACHINE_KERNEL_PR |
| 20:10.30 | CIA-127 | Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
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