| 00:02.44 | kergoth | guh, debian maintains their initscripts and update-rc.d script both within sysvinit's source tree? |
| 00:02.45 | kergoth | sighs |
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| 00:03.51 | kergoth | and the upstream sysvinit svn repo only goes back to 2.88, no further history than that |
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| 00:49.42 | kergoth | i'm starting to regret taking this in scm thing on as a side project |
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| 07:36.54 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 07:51.43 | mangomake_ | Hi, I have obtained bitbake from git in order to use the layers feature but i'm now seeing a weird error parsing one of the .bb files, i have seen a few other pastbins of this from google but can't find a solution. any ideas? http://pastebin.com/u3e8Tfs7 |
| 07:57.03 | bluelightning | mangomake_: I've got a fix for this; but I would suggest using the 1.12.0 tag until it's fixed |
| 07:57.53 | mangomake_ | bluelightning: k, i was trying git becasue i could get the bblayers to work with 1.12.0 - trying to recall specifc problem (was last firdya) |
| 07:58.02 | mangomake_ | s / could / coud not |
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| 07:58.43 | mangomake_ | It was not expanding ${THISDIR} |
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| 07:59.49 | bluelightning | mangomake_: hmm |
| 08:12.00 | bluelightning | mangomake_: well, you could apply my fix then: http://pastebin.com/BGZcCrf8 |
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| 08:42.25 | jch | Hi, should oe-core have recipes for squashfs and cramfs? These image types are included in image_types.bbclass, but recipes to provide squashfs-tools-native and cramfs-native seem to be missing. |
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| 09:16.20 | pb_ | melo hosed again, groan |
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| 10:39.53 | GNUtoo | hmmm does the oe website work fine? |
| 10:40.16 | GNUtoo | I cannot reach it |
| 10:40.37 | pb_ | no, melo is broken |
| 10:41.22 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 10:44.10 | bluelightning | can someone update the topic to include a notice to that effect? |
| 10:51.51 | GNUtoo | I've not enough details to update the topic |
| 10:52.15 | GNUtoo | people who have the details should do it |
| 10:53.04 | pb_ | just "melo broken, website and git server down" would probably be enough |
| 10:53.31 | pb_ | I don't imagine any more details are necessary |
| 10:53.37 | pb_ | so, please go ahead and set that in the topic |
| 10:53.45 | GNUtoo | ah I cannot set the topic |
| 10:53.52 | GNUtoo | it say I'm not a channel operator |
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| 11:13.29 | ant_work | I find amazing that even though OE gained momentum and some reputation we still suffer form outages... |
| 11:13.43 | pb_ | yeah, it is a bit sad |
| 11:13.54 | pb_ | I'm not quite sure what's going wrong with melo, this has happened a few times in the last week or two |
| 11:14.30 | ant_work | the firens @ T* or Inte* could ship some obsolete rig, isn't? |
| 11:14.36 | pb_ | it would be nice if some of the larger corporate users of OE could contribute some resources, but this doesn't seem to be happening |
| 11:14.46 | ant_work | heh |
| 11:15.10 | pb_ | yeah, you'd hope that TI, Intel and Mentor could somehow scrape together one spare computer between the three of them |
| 11:15.16 | pb_ | but, I guess this is the global recession, times are hard |
| 11:15.47 | ant_work | for me, I'm used to pay for my hobbies, np |
| 11:15.57 | ant_work | but is insane situation :p |
| 11:18.06 | pb_ | according to yahoo finance, the three of them have a combined market cap of about $250 billion dollars. |
| 11:18.47 | pb_ | but, well. |
| 11:19.09 | pb_ | wouldn't want them to have to sell kergoth or anything |
| 11:21.10 | ant_work | :) |
| 11:22.29 | thhp | I know you guys are just kidding around, but do you know whether anyone tried asking TI, Intel or Mentor whether they'd consider donating a server to the OE cause? |
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| 11:23.27 | ant_work | pb_: we'll have to ask for alms the e.v members |
| 11:23.44 | pb_ | I don't know, actually. I do know that all three of those companies have seats on the TSC, though, so you'd hope they would be aware of the situation. |
| 11:23.55 | ant_work | thhp: a discussion was started long ago, we have a sponsor page iirc |
| 11:24.15 | pb_ | But, as to whether anybody has actually made a direct request, I'm not sure. |
| 11:24.40 | ant_work | indeed, so straight, I don't think so |
| 11:26.00 | ant_work | is bombed daily by that 'clouds-computing' offers |
| 11:26.14 | thhp | It might be worth a go -- clearly all three companies see OE as being a part of their future(s), and they're all dedicating developer time |
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| 11:26.34 | thhp | A server is small change by comparison, I would have thought |
| 11:27.50 | pb_ | Yeah, you'd think. I guess it would be a struggle to spend much more than $10k on the sort of server we'd need. |
| 11:29.29 | ant_work | and the would have sysadm for free ;) |
| 11:29.31 | Jay7 | may manage some servers for $500/month :) |
| 11:29.39 | ant_work | :p |
| 11:29.42 | Jay7 | ;) |
| 11:30.03 | ant_work | s/free/peanuts/ |
| 11:30.24 | ant_work | (do not scare them) |
| 11:30.26 | Jay7 | +- 5 servers are not critical now :) |
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| 11:33.28 | pb_ | hm, lamawithonel_ should really get a grip on his client |
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| 11:34.52 | Jay7 | do Mentor/Intel or TI using some CDN? |
| 11:35.06 | ant_work | thhp: about your issue with uclibc, this sounds strange |
| 11:35.23 | ant_work | once for I'm pretty sure I've read successful reports |
| 11:35.26 | Jay7 | it would be easy to place oe site to CDN then |
| 11:35.32 | ant_work | then because the overrides look sane |
| 11:35.36 | Jay7 | and it will be always online |
| 11:35.57 | Jay7 | git is other thing, we may just place some mirrors around |
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| 11:36.00 | woglinde | joho |
| 11:36.07 | woglinde | git server still down? |
| 11:36.16 | Jay7 | melo is down afaik |
| 11:36.51 | woglinde | uh |
| 11:36.58 | woglinde | so worst case |
| 11:37.33 | pb_ | dunno about that, I can think of worse cases |
| 11:37.47 | ant_work | tsunami? |
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| 11:38.00 | ant_work | asteroid? |
| 11:38.02 | pb_ | right, or it could have been consumed by a plague of locusts |
| 11:38.32 | pb_ | or accidentally converted to antimatter by some kind of rogue physics experiment in the vicinity |
| 11:38.49 | pb_ | the current situation sounds fairly tame by comparison |
| 11:39.21 | ant_work | 64 bytes from melo.openembedded.org (140.211.169.165): icmp_req=1 ttl=45 time=218 ms |
| 11:39.27 | woglinde | hehe |
| 11:39.56 | pb_ | ant_work: well, yeah, but last time I looked the load average was 830 |
| 11:40.07 | woglinde | 830? |
| 11:40.09 | woglinde | muahah |
| 11:40.10 | ant_work | did you dare to login? |
| 11:40.17 | woglinde | patchwork again? |
| 11:40.28 | ant_work | pb_: now your office may be infested by bugs... |
| 11:40.38 | pb_ | ah drat, didn't think of that |
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| 11:42.19 | ant_work | my cousins says (tm) that just typing the IP is enough to be doomed |
| 11:42.36 | pb_ | ah, gutted. curtains for me then. |
| 11:43.24 | ant_work | did you even type the URL? gosh |
| 11:43.35 | woglinde | lol |
| 11:43.48 | pb_ | implodes |
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| 11:45.36 | woglinde | fetches the mop |
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| 11:47.25 | ant_work | sits now unwillingly in front of a Win2000 PC thinking about how to secure it's access to local sql server (how to protect the server :p) |
| 11:47.57 | Jay7 | ant_work: install xenserver and place all windows machines inside |
| 11:48.05 | Jay7 | this will protect you :) |
| 11:48.33 | woglinde | ant win2000? |
| 11:48.39 | ant_work | this PC runs some strange business data-keeping rotten app |
| 11:48.49 | woglinde | yeah virtualize it |
| 11:48.57 | Jay7 | from sql server side.. may be just revoke access rights from everybody except ms sql server user |
| 11:48.57 | woglinde | makes easy backups |
| 11:49.27 | ant_work | I'm evaluating open-source alternatives... |
| 11:49.35 | Jay7 | btw |
| 11:49.44 | woglinde | no chance against management |
| 11:49.54 | Jay7 | we have translator MS SQL <-> PostgreSQL |
| 11:50.16 | woglinde | translator? |
| 11:50.21 | woglinde | or convertaor? |
| 11:50.29 | Jay7 | translator |
| 11:50.33 | Jay7 | works like proxy |
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| 11:51.10 | Jay7 | seems there is no english version of site.. |
| 11:51.55 | Jay7 | http://etersoft.ru/content/view/154/208/ |
| 11:52.09 | Jay7 | in russian, use favourite translator :) |
| 11:52.32 | Jay7 | but seems they are supporting only some subset of apps right now |
| 11:52.50 | Jay7 | etersoft is company which providing services to smooth transition from windows to linux |
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| 11:56.36 | ant_work | I wrote 10yrs ago the queries and th ephp code for migrating msaccess -> mysql |
| 11:56.48 | ant_work | imagine there are still employees preferring the old app |
| 11:56.59 | ant_work | (most of them tbh) |
| 11:57.34 | ant_work | the situation is even worse for the accounting apps |
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| 12:01.26 | Jay7 | that translator was born to resolve problem with accounting apps :) |
| 12:01.39 | Jay7 | and wine@etersoft as well |
| 12:01.57 | Jay7 | it was specially patched wine version able to run that apps |
| 12:02.36 | Jay7 | now almost mainlined |
| 12:03.06 | Jay7 | well.. I should go now |
| 12:04.10 | woglinde | ? |
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| 12:29.21 | jch | Anyone have recommendations for having oe target images include the rootfs changes made by any _postinst rules of the installed packages? As I am targetting squashfs, this can't be done at runtime on first boot. |
| 12:30.56 | pb_ | I don't think there's any single silver bullet for that. You probably have to consider each postinst individually. |
| 12:32.29 | pb_ | In theory you could probably do something with qemu to get all the postinsts run under emulation but I'm not sure how practical that would really be. |
| 12:32.42 | pb_ | Might be an interesting project to try, anyway. |
| 12:34.38 | jch | I was thinking the same. Maybe capture changed files into a tarball which could be wrapped into the image by a recipe included only for certain image types. |
| 12:38.32 | pb_ | Yeah, or just pack the image into an .ext3, boot it under qemu-system, and then transform it into your desired output format. |
| 12:39.10 | pb_ | I guess something along those lines could probably be made to work. There is a fair amount of qemu scripty stuff in oe-core already for the unit tests and you might perhaps be able to borrow some of that. |
| 12:39.41 | jch | ok, thanks for the pointers. I'll have a look. |
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| 14:09.18 | pb_ | hi kergoth |
| 14:09.24 | pb_ | hi mickey|office |
| 14:09.40 | mickey|office | hey pb_ |
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| 15:04.43 | kergoth | anyone know where to dig up really old versions of sysvinit? |
| 15:04.46 | khem` | ka6sox-away: ka6sox-work around ? |
| 15:05.03 | woglinde | hi khem and kergoth |
| 15:05.13 | khem | hey yo |
| 15:06.17 | khem | ka6sox-away: melo is really mellow |
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| 15:06.43 | pb_ | kergoth: tsx-11, maybe? |
| 15:06.45 | khem | kergoth: debian would be the place I would say |
| 15:06.57 | khem | Hi pb_ |
| 15:07.05 | pb_ | how old do you want? |
| 15:07.18 | pb_ | hi khem |
| 15:08.08 | kergoth | I'm experimenting with building an oe-like system entirely out of local git repositories, no fetching, so am attempting to dig up / create useful git repositories for all the core apps in the system |
| 15:08.18 | kergoth | turns out the savannah svn repo for sysvinit only goes back to 2.88 |
| 15:08.25 | kergoth | so i figured i'd see waht i could dig up, for historic value |
| 15:09.12 | tharvey | can anyone point me to how either ubuntu or debian create their kernel-headers packages? |
| 15:09.16 | kergoth | http://snapshot.debian.org/package/sysvinit/ goes about as far back as i've been able to find so far |
| 15:09.44 | pb_ | mm, 2.57 is pretty old |
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| 15:10.10 | kergoth | indeed |
| 15:10.33 | kergoth | there's not much real tangible value from this, I just think it's interesting to have history available for software where possible :) |
| 15:10.36 | pb_ | I think back in those days it wasn't so common to archive old versions, the sites generally only kept the "latest" online |
| 15:10.51 | kergoth | that is, there's value in the pure scm based build, just not in the resurrection of historic things |
| 15:10.54 | kergoth | nods |
| 15:11.45 | kergoth | hmm, i should check old sources to other old distros |
| 15:11.46 | kergoth | e.g. slackware |
| 15:11.48 | pb_ | yeah, sunsite (which was the primary site for sysvinit originally) only has 2.83 |
| 15:12.01 | pb_ | tsx-11 seems offline, but the mirrors have 2.64 |
| 15:12.17 | kergoth | wow, sunsite brings back memories |
| 15:12.22 | kergoth | from when i first started getting into linux |
| 15:12.44 | pb_ | yeah, I was slightly surprised to find that sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/linux is still online |
| 15:13.22 | kergoth | hah. ftp://ftp.slackware-brasil.com.br/historic/slackware-2.0.1/slacksrc/a/sysvinit/SysVinit-2.4.tar.gz, ftp://ftp.slackware-brasil.com.br/historic/slackware-2.0.1/slacksrc/a/sysvinit/SysVinit-2.50.tar.gz |
| 15:13.23 | kergoth | nice. |
| 15:13.36 | pb_ | heh, the 2.64 readme says "You should use at least this version if you upgrade to the Linux 2.0 kernel" |
| 15:13.46 | pb_ | oh, very good |
| 15:14.10 | fray | I've been having networking issues today.. I can't pull from git.openembedded.org -- is anyone else having this problem? |
| 15:14.18 | fray | (I can ping it) |
| 15:14.29 | pb_ | it's down |
| 15:14.52 | fray | thanx |
| 15:14.59 | fray | I'll stop trying to diagnose it here then.. :) |
| 15:15.47 | pb_ | not entirely sure what's wrong with it, needs someone with more privs than me at the hosting centre to sort it out. |
| 15:16.27 | pb_ | earlier today melo was accepting logins but had a load average of 830. now it doesn't seem to be allowing login at all. |
| 15:16.41 | fray | ouch |
| 15:17.00 | fray | sounds like what happens on my servers when spamassassin goes insane.. |
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| 15:20.27 | kergoth | ah ha, okay, slackware 1.1.2 had sysvinit 2.4, which is in the 2.0.1 source archives. i really doubt i'm going to manage to find anything older than that :) |
| 15:20.31 | kergoth | 2.4 was 14-05-1993 |
| 15:20.33 | kergoth | nice |
| 15:20.46 | pb_ | cool |
| 15:20.55 | pb_ | nearly 20 years of history, that's not too bad |
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| 15:21.21 | kergoth | course there's missing intermediate versions, but oh well, its something anyway. can always graft other bits in if i find them later |
| 15:21.32 | woglinde | oh my god |
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| 15:38.34 | pb_ | stabs the git fetcher |
| 15:38.41 | khem | kergoth: what are you going to use it in I wonder |
| 15:38.59 | khem | kergoth: some atari |
| 15:39.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:39.26 | khem | or just collecting for your museum |
| 15:39.38 | pb_ | hands kergoth a PDP-11 |
| 15:40.23 | khem | saw family of PDPs at computer history museum few weeks back |
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| 15:47.22 | woglinde | khem the one in the mountain? |
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| 15:54.51 | fray | d'oh.. accidently sent a private response to the oe-core mailing list.. whoops.. |
| 15:54.56 | fray | stupid reply-to.. ;) |
| 15:57.45 | ant_work | woglinde: after reading http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Preprocessor-Options.html#index-isystem-930 I'm even more confused |
| 15:59.22 | kergoth | hah |
| 15:59.26 | kergoth | http://www.oldlinux.org/Linux.old/bin-src/sysvinit.tar.Z |
| 15:59.26 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.33 | pb_ | rock |
| 15:59.43 | kergoth | yggdrasil is on that site |
| 15:59.47 | kergoth | gets all nostalgic |
| 15:59.53 | pb_ | sls? |
| 15:59.54 | pb_ | heh |
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| 16:00.22 | kergoth | prerelease version of caldera 1.0, hah |
| 16:03.14 | bluelightning | so I have a fix for the failure of bitbake master with oe-dev... it's just an avoidance of calling explode_deps on None within native.bbclass and nativesdk.bbclass |
| 16:03.27 | bluelightning | do I need to send a patch for review to the ml or should I just commit the fix? |
| 16:03.47 | bluelightning | oe-core does something similar already |
| 16:05.35 | mdp | heh, cool, H.J Lu's bootroot images are thereâ¦ahh, the good ol' days |
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| 16:45.55 | davidlt | GNUtoo: ping |
| 16:46.14 | GNUtoo | pong |
| 16:46.46 | davidlt | So I exchange a few email with Steve regarding the libertas_tf and firmware. |
| 16:46.55 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 16:47.00 | GNUtoo | and? |
| 16:47.06 | davidlt | So the driver is GNU GPL 2+ |
| 16:47.25 | davidlt | While you will be never be able to get the source code of the firmware from Marwell. |
| 16:47.33 | davidlt | You can only get the binary version. |
| 16:47.38 | woglinde | thats normal |
| 16:48.02 | GNUtoo | yes usually it's the case |
| 16:48.05 | davidlt | So, OLPC does have the right to use it and it publishes it publicly. (the old version) |
| 16:48.15 | GNUtoo | what about the new version |
| 16:48.16 | GNUtoo | ? |
| 16:48.39 | davidlt | But he doesn't know if you are allowed to use it in other consumer products. |
| 16:48.45 | davidlt | There will be no new versions. |
| 16:48.50 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 16:48.54 | GNUtoo | and what about the driver |
| 16:49.01 | GNUtoo | there are no signed-off-by |
| 16:49.12 | davidlt | It looks like cozybit didn't even wanted to create it, but that was still done as OLPC was huge deal for them. |
| 16:49.14 | GNUtoo | that can be a problem if someone try to mainline that code |
| 16:49.44 | davidlt | He is going to that, but not soon. He is going to do that till the end of this year. |
| 16:50.06 | GNUtoo | ok nice |
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| 16:50.33 | davidlt | So he send me OLPC contact details regarding the usage of the firmware. |
| 16:50.41 | davidlt | So more news later. |
| 16:50.49 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 16:51.20 | davidlt | I don't remember exactly, but I think OLPC doesn't user libertas_tf anymore? |
| 16:51.43 | GNUtoo | did they ever use the tf version? |
| 16:51.54 | GNUtoo | I think they used the hard mac version |
| 16:52.09 | davidlt | I don't know. |
| 16:52.16 | GNUtoo | (libertas_usb and libertas_sdio) |
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| 16:52.23 | GNUtoo | sdio would be for newer models |
| 16:52.40 | GNUtoo | I've no idea if they are out or not |
| 16:52.54 | GNUtoo | like the one based on marvell soc |
| 16:53.00 | davidlt | So libertas_tf looks very much dead, just let's hope the latest version get upstream. |
| 16:53.19 | GNUtoo | yes |
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| 16:56.54 | woglinde | re crofton |
| 16:58.37 | Crofton | hi |
| 16:59.16 | woglinde | how was the flight? |
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| 18:00.36 | khem | ka6sox-farfarawa: around ? |
| 18:09.38 | ka6sox-farfarawa | sorta... |
| 18:10.17 | ka6sox-farfarawa | khem sorta |
| 18:10.32 | khem | ka6sox-farfarawa: melo is really down |
| 18:10.49 | ka6sox-farfarawa | really really? :D |
| 18:10.55 | ka6sox-farfarawa | okay let me get on the console. |
| 18:11.02 | khem | no ssh nothing |
| 18:11.18 | ka6sox-farfarawa | let me get on the console and see whats up before I reboot. |
| 18:11.34 | ka6sox-farfarawa | jas...let me get out of this multiplexer and into that. |
| 18:11.40 | khem | k |
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| 18:12.14 | khem | I wonder if there is some crazy patch that killed it |
| 18:13.37 | ka6sox-farfarawa | whats happening is that both apache and the github hook are basically spawning processes... |
| 18:13.49 | ka6sox-farfarawa | and OOMing the machine |
| 18:14.27 | ka6sox-farfarawa | now, there may be an underlying FS issue...so I'm going to fsck -f before I restart it. |
| 18:17.03 | khem | hmmm ok |
| 18:17.11 | khem | this time its not pw |
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| 18:29.01 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: limit apache forks number |
| 18:30.15 | Jay7 | not sure how to deal with hooks.. |
| 18:30.33 | Jay7 | iirc, we have disabled all access to git except ssh |
| 18:30.50 | Jay7 | and hooks are starting on push |
| 18:31.02 | Jay7 | but I see no large pushes last time |
| 18:38.03 | ka6sox-farfarawa | Jay7, nginx FTW |
| 18:39.50 | Jay7 | limit connections there then :) |
| 18:40.12 | ka6sox-farfarawa | Jay7, I varnish. |
| 18:40.53 | Jay7 | hehe :) |
| 18:41.11 | Jay7 | I've said about CDN today |
| 18:41.15 | ka6sox-farfarawa | okay now that the multiplexer I was working on is fixed...(multiple corefiles clogging it up) |
| 18:41.21 | ka6sox-farfarawa | ya, CDN good. |
| 18:41.22 | Jay7 | I'm sure Intel should use some CDN |
| 18:41.28 | ka6sox-farfarawa | yup |
| 18:41.33 | Jay7 | we may ask to place OE site into CDN |
| 18:41.37 | ka6sox-farfarawa | I can work on melo now |
| 18:41.49 | Jay7 | at least our site will be always accessible |
| 18:43.53 | ka6sox-farfarawa | ya, right now I will put it back online..but I will have to schedule outage to convert from apache to nginx/varnish |
| 18:44.22 | ka6sox-farfarawa | first...fsck -f / |
| 18:45.20 | Jay7 | you already have outage |
| 18:45.25 | Jay7 | use it :) |
| 18:45.33 | Jay7 | reuse even :) |
| 18:46.09 | Jay7 | "network/server outage and how to reuse it" |
| 18:46.17 | Jay7 | for dummies :) |
| 18:46.27 | Jay7 | good idea to write own book :) |
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| 18:48.43 | ka6sox-farfarawa | can someone send an email to the ML...I'm kinda busy now. |
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| 18:53.17 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: email about services state? |
| 18:53.30 | ka6sox-farfarawa | Jay7, FS not happy |
| 18:53.35 | ka6sox-farfarawa | Jay7, yes |
| 18:53.49 | Jay7 | f[*s]ck :) |
| 18:54.07 | Jay7 | I'll send to oe-devel |
| 18:54.18 | ka6sox-farfarawa | and yocto too if you would... |
| 18:54.25 | Jay7 | what services affected? www, git, what else? |
| 18:54.34 | ka6sox-farfarawa | www, git, patches |
| 18:54.34 | Jay7 | yes, yocto is ok |
| 18:54.38 | Jay7 | ok |
| 18:54.39 | morphis | ka6sox-farfarawa: that means disk is broken? |
| 18:54.46 | ka6sox-farfarawa | FS is not happy. |
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| 18:54.53 | morphis | ka6sox-farfarawa: or just the filesystem is broken? |
| 18:54.56 | ka6sox-farfarawa | FS |
| 18:54.59 | morphis | ok |
| 18:55.09 | ka6sox-farfarawa | its old and crufty...needs to be started over. |
| 18:55.15 | ka6sox-farfarawa | and just transfer data. |
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| 18:56.15 | ka6sox-farfarawa | xm create -c melo |
| 18:56.21 | ka6sox-farfarawa | er...not gonna work. |
| 18:57.10 | ka6sox-farfarawa | khem please look @ parsemail and see if its choking? |
| 18:59.51 | otavio | yey! repos online again heh |
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| 19:03.09 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: can you say time expected when melo will be up again? |
| 19:04.55 | joelagnel | Does Machine configuration override Distro configuration in OE? Or viceversa? |
| 19:05.17 | Jay7 | iirc, yes |
| 19:05.41 | Jay7 | but it is easy to check :) |
| 19:06.19 | kergoth | it does. machine should always have final say over distro. machine generally defines capabilities and hardware requirements which aren't negotiable, whereas the distro is more general / policy |
| 19:06.47 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: mail sent |
| 19:07.39 | joelagnel | kergoth, ok, thanks |
| 19:08.07 | ka6sox-farfarawa | Jay7, its sorta up now... |
| 19:08.23 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: reply to it then :) |
| 19:08.24 | ka6sox-farfarawa | but I will need to schedule a time (maybe tonight) when we convert it. |
| 19:08.40 | joelagnel | is having a hard time figuring out which kernel version is chosen for the angstrom-2008.1 distro and a beagleboard |
| 19:09.03 | joelagnel | It seems that builds chose 2.6.32, but I can't see this in the /conf for either the distro or the machine |
| 19:09.11 | Jay7 | ka6sox-farfarawa: can't you copy VM, setup it properly and then replace old? :) |
| 19:09.39 | Jay7 | well.. not just replace, but merge :) |
| 19:10.45 | joelagnel | Any ideas? :) |
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| 19:11.23 | Jay7 | joelagnel: check linux/* recipes for default preference |
| 19:13.52 | joelagnel | Jay7, just found: |
| 19:13.52 | joelagnel | linux/linux-omap_2.6.29.bb:DEFAULT_PREFERENCE_beagleboard = "1" |
| 19:14.55 | Jay7 | joelagnel: run bitbake virtual/kernel and check which version will be built :) |
| 19:15.15 | joelagnel | Jay7, sure I was about to do that, seeing is believing ;) |
| 19:15.25 | joelagnel | Just trying to understand the mechanics of how it works, a bit |
| 19:15.29 | Jay7 | was it 2.6.32? |
| 19:15.43 | joelagnel | Jay7, will check and let you know, thanks |
| 19:15.50 | Jay7 | there is linux-headers also |
| 19:15.56 | Jay7 | and headers may be .32 |
| 19:16.10 | joelagnel | final kernel version is .32 AFAIK, but don't know |
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| 19:16.43 | joelagnel | angstrom 2008.1 doesn't specify a preference, neither does the beagleboard machine, so there's a default getting into virtual/kernel somewhere |
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| 19:19.06 | joelagnel | ooh gotcha |
| 19:19.35 | joelagnel | conf/beagleboard.conf prefers linux-omap-psp as provider for kernel |
| 19:19.47 | joelagnel | and linux-omap-psp has a highest version of only .32 |
| 19:20.02 | joelagnel | Could that be it? |
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| 19:20.14 | Jay7 | look like |
| 19:20.25 | joelagnel | Jay7, cool :) |
| 19:23.28 | ka6sox-farfarawa | pb_, you were right. |
| 19:23.38 | ka6sox-farfarawa | but I'm still going to convert it. |
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| 19:33.06 | pb_ | ka6sox-farfarawa: okay cool |
| 19:34.05 | ka6sox-farfarawa | FS needs to be replaced and brought up to the current standard. |
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| 19:35.51 | dockside_ | is openembbeded.org being ddosed? |
| 19:36.03 | ka6sox-farfarawa | yes |
| 19:36.06 | dockside_ | webpage is quite unusable |
| 19:36.52 | dockside_ | is there any form of webarchive or alternative mirror? |
| 19:37.33 | ka6sox-farfarawa | dockside_, I'm trying to isolate the sources. |
| 19:37.33 | Jay7 | dockside_: google cache? |
| 19:37.39 | ka6sox-farfarawa | googlecache is good. |
| 19:38.08 | dockside_ | didn't think of that |
| 19:38.09 | dockside_ | thanks |
| 19:38.14 | Jay7 | site should be mirrored or go into CDN.. |
| 19:38.39 | dockside_ | what manner of hosting is there at present? |
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| 19:38.46 | ka6sox-farfarawa | pretty good... |
| 19:39.13 | ka6sox-farfarawa | dockside_, apache sucks at the loads we are seeing...tonight I'll varnish. |
| 19:39.24 | dockside_ | ah, |
| 19:39.25 | dockside_ | yeah |
| 19:39.41 | dockside_ | apaches connection scaling is not acceptable |
| 19:39.46 | ka6sox-farfarawa | nope |
| 19:39.54 | ka6sox-farfarawa | probably go to nginx too. |
| 19:40.04 | ka6sox-farfarawa | since that takes like 10% of the RAM. |
| 19:40.13 | dockside_ | :) |
| 19:40.45 | ka6sox-farfarawa | that combination has survived 5 /.'ings |
| 19:40.53 | dockside_ | :D |
| 19:40.56 | ka6sox-farfarawa | on another project on the same server. |
| 19:41.02 | ka6sox-farfarawa | (well same dom0 anyways) |
| 19:41.26 | dockside_ | well, if it surivived /. that well |
| 19:41.35 | dockside_ | it takes quite a ddos to compare |
| 19:41.49 | ka6sox-farfarawa | dockside_, we have Gb access in the location we are. |
| 19:42.03 | ka6sox-farfarawa | this is a local server performance issue. |
| 19:42.11 | ka6sox-farfarawa | it *will* be rectified. |
| 19:42.24 | dockside_ | nice :) |
| 19:42.41 | dockside_ | don't let me disturb then and gl |
| 19:43.09 | ka6sox-farfarawa | will wait till .eu is asleep and .us is gone home. |
| 19:43.14 | dockside_ | i would love to help but i feel that is out of my domain |
| 19:43.15 | ka6sox-farfarawa | khem, ping |
| 19:44.32 | ka6sox-farfarawa | ya, I need more help too...maybe I recruit some folks I know who have the experience :D |
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| 19:48.21 | Jay7 | should upgrade his experience with nginx too |
| 19:56.25 | ka6sox-farfarawa | only 40Mb now... |
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| 20:19.11 | denix | ka6sox-farfarawa, Jay7 and others: thanks for your dedication on resolving the server issue! |
| 20:19.50 | risca | I've created a custom toolchain/sdk. In my task-MY_TOOLCHAIN-toolchain-target.bb file I have listed directfb in RDEPENDS_${PN}, but the header files are still not present in the SDK |
| 20:20.24 | risca | I have followed the guide here: http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/html/commonuse_qte_sdk.html |
| 20:21.03 | risca | Hmm... Am I supposed to list directfb-dev? |
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| 20:23.01 | risca | I'll try that |
| 20:26.39 | ka6sox-farfarawa | denix, glad we can at least come to a conclusion...now to implement. |
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| 20:51.16 | Jay7 | denix: I'm just "walking around", all real work is done by ka6sox-farfarawa :) |
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| 21:11.38 | CIA-10 | 03Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdf3e3de4e4 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:11.38 | CIA-10 | Add new linux-kexecboot_git-nokia900-meego recipe |
| 21:11.38 | CIA-10 | This is a linux-kexecboot for the nokia900, |
| 21:11.38 | CIA-10 | A classic kexecboot recipe is not used because |
| 21:11.38 | CIA-10 | this one has patches(inside the git tree of the kernel) |
| 21:11.39 | CIA-10 | for proper shut down,and a lot of other machine specific patches. |
| 21:11.40 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org> |
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| 21:30.59 | Jay7 | GNUtoo: hi |
| 21:31.12 | Jay7 | is kexecboot working ok on n900? :) |
| 21:31.27 | GNUtoo | not ok |
| 21:31.33 | GNUtoo | still the 1min delay |
| 21:31.38 | Jay7 | ah |
| 21:31.51 | CIA-10 | 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07master * rb6838a476a 10openembedded.git/recipes/udev/ (udev.inc udev/cache udev_124.bb): |
| 21:31.51 | CIA-10 | udev: Fix cache problem |
| 21:31.51 | CIA-10 | When /dev/shm is re-mounted we need to re-create the files that end up |
| 21:31.51 | CIA-10 | in /etc/udev/saved.*. In addition, udev 124 wasn't making an initial |
| 21:31.52 | CIA-10 | saved.uname file. |
| 21:31.52 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
| 21:31.54 | Jay7 | that's bad.. |
| 21:32.27 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 21:32.53 | GNUtoo | can I push that (along with an update to the inc file of kexecboot) http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/5077/ |
| 21:33.25 | Jay7 | not sure about '-e' removal |
| 21:33.42 | Jay7 | can't remember why we leave it as is and override in machine recipes |
| 21:33.53 | GNUtoo | the -e is an error |
| 21:34.01 | GNUtoo | it doesn't work for lzma |
| 21:34.09 | GNUtoo | ah...and lz fails for me |
| 21:34.18 | GNUtoo | *xz |
| 21:34.24 | Jay7 | better to ask Andrea about this |
| 21:34.29 | GNUtoo | so I guess I will want to push my version of my patch |
| 21:34.50 | GNUtoo | Jun 17 17:36:16 <ant_work> we have to change linux-kexecboot.inc to reflect lzma->xz dependency |
| 21:35.17 | Jay7 | I have nothing against that patch |
| 21:35.18 | GNUtoo | when talking about: |
| 21:35.19 | GNUtoo | Jun 17 17:32:53 <ant_work> GNUtoo: http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/5077/ |
| 21:35.33 | GNUtoo | mine is at: |
| 21:35.53 | GNUtoo | http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/6073/ |
| 21:36.17 | GNUtoo | #5077 fails for me |
| 21:36.34 | GNUtoo | but #6073 works fine |
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| 22:43.14 | khem | ka6sox-work: tell me |
| 22:43.18 | khem | I am here now |
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| 22:58.30 | CIA-10 | 03Matthew McClintock <msm@freescale.com> 07master * r9e3be665b6 10openembedded.git/recipes/valgrind/valgrind_3.6.1.bb: |
| 22:58.30 | CIA-10 | valgrind: Fix shebang issues when compiling valgrind on old bash |
| 22:58.30 | CIA-10 | valgrind is doing some odd substitutions on the shebang for some |
| 22:58.30 | CIA-10 | scripts. This overrides the perl location and uses one that |
| 22:58.30 | CIA-10 | should work. This fixes building valgrind on centos 5.6 |
| 22:58.31 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Matthew McClintock <msm@freescale.com> |
| 22:58.32 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
| 22:59.08 | msm | well that was quick |
| 22:59.41 | msm | Tartarus: this is my irc handle by the way |
| 22:59.53 | Tartarus | msm: Hey there :) |
| 23:15.25 | housel | Is there anything I can do about "No GNU_HASH section" QA errors on binaries provided by the vendor, other than overriding/disabling those QA stages? |
| 23:20.41 | Tartarus | housel: If you can't fix them, you need to skip them then |
| 23:21.06 | Tartarus | INSANE_SKIP = True in the recipe, iirc |
| 23:21.31 | Tartarus | or better INSANE_SKIP_${PN}-subpackage-that-contains-the-bad-bits = True |
| 23:22.09 | housel | ok, thanks |
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| 23:50.30 | ka6sox-work | khem, ping? |
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