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| 06:54.58 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 07:29.12 | Jay7 | Video from FOSDEM: http://free-electrons.com/blog/fosdem-2011-videos/ |
| 07:29.41 | Jay7 | "ELC and ABS videos are coming very very soon" (Ñ) Michael Opdenacker |
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| 09:57.00 | rob_w | is it possible to share a tmp/ dir over multiple users .. i tryed to have the users in a own group but it fails on a do_install where it wanted to change permission in tmp/sysroot/xxx/usr/bin/aclocal stuff |
| 09:58.37 | rob_w | so my only solution right now is to have a oe user which everybody uses who builds the tmp/ , right ? |
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| 10:16.47 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1796f209d8 10openembedded.git/recipes/sdr/dttsp_svn.bb: |
| 10:16.48 | CIA-10 | dttsp: fix DEPENDS |
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| 10:16.58 | CIA-10 | sdrshell-qt4: fix DEPENDS and update SRCREV |
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| 12:53.59 | morphis | how do I let bitbake reparse the whole tree? is there any command option to do so? |
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| 13:10.39 | foerster | morphis: touch build/conf/local.conf |
| 13:10.58 | morphis | foerster: ok, thats some workaround I did too |
| 13:11.08 | morphis | but there is no other option to do so? |
| 13:11.39 | morphis | my problem is I added a .bbappend file in my overlay which set the COMPATIBLE_MACHINE for my machine |
| 13:12.13 | morphis | but then the whole tree didn't get re-evaluated and it still tells me u-boot (the one I did the .bbappend for) can't be found for my machine |
| 13:12.54 | foerster | I've not used bbappend yet, so I'm not sure (I've been using amend.inc, and haven't switched over) |
| 13:13.34 | morphis | ok |
| 13:13.41 | morphis | seems to be a general problem |
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| 13:15.05 | foerster | have you previously used bbappend with success? |
| 13:15.17 | morphis | no |
| 13:15.23 | foerster | http://sakrah.homelinux.org/blog/2010/11/bblayers-bbappend/ |
| 13:15.25 | morphis | it's the first time |
| 13:15.34 | foerster | seems BBFILES needs *.bbappend set as well |
| 13:15.46 | foerster | else it won't look for them |
| 13:15.56 | morphis | it has |
| 13:16.00 | morphis | that not the problem |
| 13:16.11 | morphis | if I change my conf/local.conf for example |
| 13:16.31 | morphis | bitbake tolds me then "NOTE: Out of date cache found, rebuilding..." |
| 13:16.44 | morphis | after it has done the rebuild of the cache everything works fine |
| 13:17.02 | foerster | oh. |
| 13:17.08 | morphis | but when I now add only a new bbappend file in my layer directory it doesn't work |
| 13:17.37 | morphis | bitbake tells me then that there is no provide for u-boot |
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| 13:19.44 | morphis | will write a mail later about that to the ML |
| 13:20.01 | foerster | sorry, I can't be of any help (I'm using x86, so no u-boot for me) |
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| 13:20.25 | morphis | ok |
| 13:20.37 | morphis | foerster: but thank you anyway :) |
| 13:20.43 | foerster | np |
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| 16:03.03 | broonie | Crofton|work: Pong |
| 16:14.50 | Crofton|work | I actually tried 32khx on an omap3 (alsa) |
| 16:14.56 | Crofton|work | and it makes funny noises |
| 16:14.59 | Crofton|work | not the right one |
| 16:15.07 | Crofton|work | any guesses? |
| 16:15.10 | Crofton|work | 2.6.38 |
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| 16:22.52 | broonie | No idea - not sure what 32kHz on OMAP is. |
| 16:23.04 | broonie | You're better off asking lrg if he appears. |
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| 16:33.54 | Crofton|work | k |
| 16:36.52 | kergoth | khem: do you happen to know what of linaro's patches have been reviewed / pulled into oe? |
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| 16:42.28 | tconant | It appears psplash comes up before udev. But it seems like when udev is run after psplash the image isn't being rendered on the screen. I think it's because /dev/fb gets overwritten when udev runs. Is this normal? |
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| 16:47.02 | aarkest | Does anyone know how to build modphp (for angstrom)? |
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| 17:23.05 | CIA-10 | 03Jeff Lance <jefflance01@gmail.com> 07master * rb14cb947a3 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/ (3 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:23.05 | CIA-10 | matrix_gui: Pull in lmbench,multimedia,EZSDK mods |
| 17:23.05 | CIA-10 | * Update SRCREV to pull in: |
| 17:24.48 | tasslehoff | http://pastebin.com/ixPjKzJm - this is a new error for me. what does it mean? |
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| 17:30.37 | kergoth | it means exactly what it says |
| 17:30.40 | kergoth | two packages installed the same conffile |
| 17:33.38 | tasslehoff | hm. in Angstrom 2008.x I had kernel-module-rtc-twl and kernel-module-rtc-core. with the latest from dev that gives the error. using only kernel-module-rtc-twl does not, but I have no idea if it is correct :) |
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| 17:57.30 | khem | kergoth: you mean reviewed in gcc community ? |
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| 18:05.01 | florian | re |
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| 18:25.32 | CIA-10 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra49bd05f40 10openembedded.git/recipes/libosip2/libosip2_3.1.0.bb: |
| 18:25.33 | CIA-10 | libosip2 : Upgrade from version 3.1 to 3.5 |
| 18:25.33 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> |
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| 18:33.44 | denix | kergoth: ping |
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| 19:02.05 | Crofton|work | denix, thanks for attending the yocto technical meeting |
| 19:04.06 | CIA-10 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3fc876f03e 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-sdk-gnuradio-native.bb: |
| 19:04.07 | CIA-10 | task-sdk-gnuradio-native.bb : GNU Radio (with UHD) no longer needs sdcc. |
| 19:04.07 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> |
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| 19:31.01 | CIA-10 | 03Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6cc123b617 10openembedded.git/recipes/ortp/ (ortp_0.13.1.bb ortp_0.16.5.bb): |
| 19:31.01 | CIA-10 | ortp : Upgrade from version 0.13.1 to 0.16.5. |
| 19:31.01 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> |
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| 19:43.36 | denix | Crofton|work: not a problem - it's rather logistics than technical, but still good |
| 19:43.58 | Crofton|work | I'd like to see more variety there |
| 19:46.17 | pb_ | hi kergoth, florian, all |
| 19:46.23 | pb_ | returns from the big city |
| 19:46.48 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 19:47.04 | florian | pb_: Bielefeld? ;) |
| 19:48.28 | pb_ | florian: heh, London in this case |
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| 20:37.32 | ant__ | hi woglinde |
| 20:38.07 | woglinde | hi ant |
| 20:38.25 | ant__ | have you tried oe-core? |
| 20:38.57 | ant__ | I see pb_ is fiddling with it now |
| 20:39.01 | ant__ | good sign |
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| 20:39.20 | woglinde | sorry no time yet |
| 20:39.21 | ant__ | hello |
| 20:39.26 | ant__ | bluelightning: |
| 20:39.33 | woglinde | I talked with khem about a java layer |
| 20:39.36 | ant__ | woglinde: me neither |
| 20:40.22 | ant__ | woglinde: it looks like khem is 'entangled' with koen atm :) |
| 20:40.54 | woglinde | ? |
| 20:41.19 | ant__ | hard working on angstrom layer/oe-core |
| 20:41.56 | woglinde | khem is working on oe-core and meta-oe |
| 20:43.14 | ant__ | now topic on ML is about IMAGE vars |
| 20:43.21 | ant__ | I agree with pb_ |
| 20:43.53 | ant__ | less vars and good documented, overrides in distro-layer |
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| 20:50.56 | bluelightning | ant__: pong...? |
| 20:51.33 | bluelightning | I think maybe I dropped before you sent the actual msg |
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| 21:02.46 | Crofton|work | pb_, seems like github is cinfusing you and me |
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| 21:39.33 | ant__ | bluelightning: hey |
| 21:40.06 | ant__ | still OOM booting opie images... |
| 21:40.27 | ant__ | x11 boots |
| 21:40.31 | bluelightning | ant__: have you tracked down the cause? |
| 21:40.34 | ant__ | same udev... |
| 21:40.42 | ant__ | yes, is during udev |
| 21:40.50 | ant__ | I have to log udevadm |
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| 21:41.00 | bluelightning | so, how can opie have an influence on udev? |
| 21:41.17 | ant__ | I checked about specific opie-initscripts but did not find any |
| 21:41.29 | ant__ | conflicting in rcS |
| 21:41.53 | ant__ | but the issue is repeatable: on 32M and 64M devices |
| 21:42.21 | ant__ | fwiw we (Zaurus)don't use udev device cache |
| 21:42.43 | ant__ | because root is still ro (why, still to see how) |
| 21:43.12 | woglinde_ | ant use udev-168 |
| 21:43.19 | woglinde_ | or busybox-mdev |
| 21:43.36 | ant__ | in fact I'm thinking about dropping udev |
| 21:43.56 | woglinde_ | problem with qt-2.3.10 is fonts |
| 21:44.46 | ant__ | woglinde_: I see udev 168 is now preferred |
| 21:44.53 | ant__ | I'll test right now |
| 21:45.17 | woglinde_ | I had problems with touchscreen on the simpad |
| 21:45.22 | woglinde_ | and opie |
| 21:45.40 | ant__ | there is a strange issue with tslib |
| 21:45.54 | ant__ | with 2.6.37 headers |
| 21:46.16 | woglinde_ | okay |
| 21:46.25 | Jay7 | there is patch |
| 21:46.42 | Jay7 | at least in zaurus-devel ML |
| 21:47.08 | woglinde_ | jay7 pointer? |
| 21:47.15 | woglinde_ | but it compiles |
| 21:47.20 | ant__ | well, I have ASSUME_PROVIDED += "linux-libc-headers-native" |
| 21:47.32 | ant__ | because of race-issues on Gentoo |
| 21:47.45 | ant__ | and with 2.6.36 all is ok |
| 21:48.03 | Jay7 | woglinde_: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/zaurus-devel/2011-May/000507.html |
| 21:48.17 | ant__ | 2.6.37 has slightly newer EV_VERSION |
| 21:48.28 | ant__ | and there is a silly check |
| 21:50.23 | woglinde_ | ah tslib_git is needed |
| 22:15.44 | ant__ | bluelightning: with latest udev 168 opie boots |
| 22:15.55 | bluelightning | ant__: good news :D |
| 22:15.57 | ant__ | still stalls after starting udev... |
| 22:16.01 | ant__ | hold breath |
| 22:16.10 | ant__ | and it welcomes :) |
| 22:16.40 | ant__ | argh |
| 22:16.48 | ant__ | loop in ts calibration |
| 22:17.25 | ant__ | still at welcome screen :/ |
| 22:17.29 | bluelightning | someone said the ts driver currently had issues on zaurus-devel |
| 22:17.44 | ant__ | well, I see crosshairs and can click those |
| 22:17.45 | bluelightning | something about it being too noisy...? |
| 22:17.57 | ant__ | butr calibration never ends |
| 22:18.20 | ant__ | it behaves 'normally' I'd say |
| 22:18.30 | ant__ | maybe cannot write the settings |
| 22:18.31 | bluelightning | if calibration never ends then the ts values it's getting back are outside the expected range |
| 22:18.36 | ant__ | ah |
| 22:18.49 | bluelightning | I think that's what it means anyway |
| 22:18.55 | Jay7 | we have old kernel patch to reduce noise |
| 22:18.57 | ant__ | let me boot x11 now |
| 22:19.01 | ant__ | to compare |
| 22:24.13 | ant__ | on c7x0, no changes: pre-calibrated pointercal values are a bit wrong on my devices and recalibration is impossible |
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| 22:32.02 | ant__ | NOTE: package klibc-1.5.22-r0.0: task do_compile: Succeeded |
| 22:32.04 | ant__ | :) |
| 22:37.11 | JaMa | with oe-core? |
| 22:37.19 | ant__ | no, oe-dev |
| 22:37.34 | khem | just came back from cheering Tour of California riders |
| 22:37.53 | ant__ | but http://paste.debian.net/117317/ |
| 22:38.23 | ant__ | something must have changed in the sources |
| 22:40.30 | JaMa | ant__: do you know some status info about meta-handhelds? |
| 22:40.51 | ant__ | unfortunately not |
| 22:41.15 | ant__ | Iwe are now chasing the lack-of-modules in rootfs |
| 22:41.37 | JaMa | klibc with oe-core is blocking my reflash on spitz :) |
| 22:41.49 | ant__ | ouch |
| 22:42.07 | khem | JaMa: klibc ? |
| 22:42.16 | ant__ | is it committed? |
| 22:43.06 | ant__ | anyway. I added rm klcc/klcc in do_install...how can it be installed? |
| 22:43.07 | ant__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.25 | Jay7 | JaMa: bluelightning is master of meta-hh :) |
| 22:43.33 | JaMa | ant__: I had it in my meta-shr for month or two, now I have it in meta-smartphone/meta-zaurus which I plan to drop as soon as there is meta-handhelds |
| 22:43.48 | ant__ | great |
| 22:43.58 | bluelightning | sorry guys, have not got around to finishing it |
| 22:44.01 | JaMa | Jay7: I know, but haven't seen him online and he doesn't respond to ping now.. |
| 22:44.07 | JaMa | ah, here he is :) |
| 22:44.43 | ant__ | JaMa: any hint about udev/root read-only on Z ? |
| 22:45.04 | Jay7 | klibc should go into oe-core as I understand |
| 22:45.05 | JaMa | rootfs read-only? |
| 22:45.11 | ant__ | now udev is after fstab, maybe adding rw could help.. |
| 22:45.21 | bluelightning | what I have still currently is what was ripped out of oe-core, which when compared to what's in oe-dev isn't that good |
| 22:45.34 | ant__ | JaMa: yes, somehow we cannot use udev-cache |
| 22:45.40 | ant__ | we need /tmp in tmfs |
| 22:45.47 | ant__ | *tmpfs |
| 22:45.58 | ant__ | then it should work |
| 22:46.18 | JaMa | here it works, I haven't seen any RO issues |
| 22:46.26 | Jay7 | do we have tmpfs in /dev/shm already? |
| 22:46.28 | ant__ | but I'm scared by the missing modules in th eend-images... |
| 22:46.30 | JaMa | so sorry no idea what went wrong |
| 22:46.33 | Jay7 | at that point |
| 22:47.38 | ant__ | i.e. we lack all snd modules for Z...is not a question of modutils/init_tools or udev...modules are not in the rootfs... |
| 22:47.46 | JaMa | ant__: I prefer explicit module names in MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS anyways |
| 22:48.03 | JaMa | ant__: as upgrading 100 modules just because I bump SRCREV takes too long.. |
| 22:48.07 | ant__ | how could it work with 2.6.26? |
| 22:48.50 | ant__ | we didn't change machine conf |
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| 22:49.16 | ant__ | something is fiultering modules out, like for headers |
| 22:49.24 | bluelightning | ant__: was sound definitely working with 2.6.26? |
| 22:49.59 | ant__ | well, at least lib/modules was more populated iirc |
| 22:50.20 | Jay7 | sound was working fine on my akita |
| 22:50.28 | ant__ | fwiw we moved from linux-rp.inc to linux.inc |
| 22:50.30 | Jay7 | I've used it as player long time :) |
| 22:50.43 | bluelightning | I'm not positive but I think it was not working on my spitz |
| 22:50.46 | Jay7 | tosa was not fine |
| 22:50.59 | Jay7 | not sure about other models |
| 22:51.05 | ant__ | corgi was ok, spitz (3200) too |
| 22:51.13 | Jay7 | lumag is slowly working on tosa's sound |
| 22:51.16 | JaMa | ant__: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/391510/ |
| 22:51.53 | ant__ | look for /lib/modules/2.6.39-rc7/kernel/sound/soc/pxa/snd-soc-spitz.ko |
| 22:52.01 | ant__ | is not in today's rootfss |
| 22:52.18 | ant__ | only in modules-.tgx |
| 22:52.19 | JaMa | bluelightning: iirc alsa-states were wrong and something was muted for me, but then it worked |
| 22:52.23 | ts_ | I ran into an issue building qt4-native_4.7.3. I get QA staging issues. Anyone who might have a clue on that? |
| 22:52.24 | ant__ | eh |
| 22:52.29 | ant__ | .tgz |
| 22:52.36 | bluelightning | JaMa: that was probably it, I didn't dig into it too far |
| 22:52.39 | JaMa | ant__: as I said here it works right as you can see in that pastebin |
| 22:52.49 | ant__ | which distro? |
| 22:52.53 | JaMa | SHR |
| 22:53.15 | JaMa | customized x11-gpe-image |
| 22:53.23 | ant__ | minimal and Angstrom did fail here... |
| 22:53.40 | JaMa | but point is that kernel-modules is installed and it rdepends on all kernel-module-* so it pulls them to rootfs |
| 22:54.34 | ts_ | angstrom |
| 22:54.40 | ant__ | JaMa: I'm in the rootfs.. |
| 22:54.53 | ant__ | i /snd I have only core |
| 22:55.16 | ant__ | hmm |
| 22:55.18 | JaMa | and do you have kernel-modules installed? |
| 22:56.31 | ant__ | no :) |
| 22:56.52 | ant__ | let's grep for it |
| 22:57.54 | JaMa | ant__: ./x11-gpe-image.bb: kernel-modules \ |
| 22:58.01 | JaMa | that's why it's in mine |
| 22:58.37 | JaMa | you can add it to MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS to force it in every image but again: |
| 22:58.38 | JaMa | 00:47:46 < JaMa> ant__: I prefer explicit module names in MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS anyways |
| 22:59.03 | ant__ | x11-gpe *only* |
| 22:59.15 | ant__ | I build console- opie- and x11-image |
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| 22:59.31 | ant__ | ok, let's add it to zaurus.inc |
| 22:59.39 | JaMa | :( |
| 22:59.52 | JaMa | going to bed, gn8 |
| 22:59.55 | ant__ | sometimes x11-gpe, seldom |
| 22:59.59 | ant__ | ;) |
| 23:00.28 | ant__ | good night |
| 23:00.44 | ant__ | Jay7: mystery almost solved |
| 23:00.59 | Jay7 | nice |
| 23:01.15 | ant__ | strange how it was working before, though |
| 23:02.07 | JaMa | and again please dont put *all* modules to MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS just because it's shorter then list of kernel-modules which are really usefull |
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| 23:03.43 | ant__ | JaMa|Zzzz: worth discussion on zaurus-devel |
| 23:04.46 | ant__ | I suspect some MACHINE_KERNEL_PR did broke |
| 23:05.12 | ant__ | (some patch about M_K_PR) |
| 23:09.37 | JaMa|Zzzz | MACHINE_KERNEL_PR is not used for Z at all afaik |
| 23:10.00 | ant__ | JaMa|Zzzz: defconfig is customized, almost all modules are useful |
| 23:10.13 | ant__ | many are monolitic |
| 23:10.18 | ant__ | (fs) |
| 23:10.46 | ant__ | btw...you wrote the modularized-defconfig :) |
| 23:10.49 | JaMa|Zzzz | ant__: but defconfig should be "wide" so everybody can find module for his weird usb gadget |
| 23:11.00 | JaMa|Zzzz | ant__: in feeds |
| 23:11.16 | JaMa|Zzzz | ant__: and on rootfs only subset of "usually" usefull modules |
| 23:11.51 | ant__ | ok, apart usb case, the rest should not be compiled at all |
| 23:12.18 | JaMa|Zzzz | different cf wifi cards? |
| 23:12.35 | ant__ | well, how can you decide which ones? |
| 23:12.46 | ant__ | how do you know? |
| 23:12.59 | JaMa|Zzzz | different serial modules like Stanislav Brabec asked? |
| 23:13.17 | ant__ | I'd compile and deploy all those 'pluggable' |
| 23:13.19 | JaMa|Zzzz | if nobody puts kernel-modules to MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS then we can build *all* |
| 23:14.25 | JaMa|Zzzz | because building more modules is not so big overhead as upgrading them on many targets every now and then |
| 23:15.07 | JaMa|Zzzz | building more modules on fast build server... / upgrading on slow target with slow internet connection |
| 23:15.48 | JaMa|Zzzz | 3,5 hours to sleep, gtg :) |
| 23:15.48 | ant__ | omg |
| 23:15.53 | ant__ | go away ;) |
| 23:17.59 | Jay7 | well.. good idea |
| 23:18.04 | Jay7 | gone sleep too |
| 23:22.27 | ant__ | yes, let's finish tomorrow |
| 23:22.32 | ant__ | be |
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