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| 02:36.27 | ka6sox-work | khem, yup...we did |
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| 05:50.39 | dv | http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2801/ |
| 05:50.45 | dv | http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/2799/ |
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| 06:47.05 | aarti | hi all, I am trying to build any package with bitbake it's showing me ERROR:'virtual:native:OE/openembedded/recipe/file/file_5.05.bb fails |
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| 07:05.41 | aarti | any idea? |
| 07:21.35 | hrw | check how it fails? |
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| 08:23.50 | florian | good morning |
| 08:23.56 | woglinde | he florian |
| 08:24.07 | woglinde | hi bluelightning |
| 08:24.37 | florian | The captcha system for the wiki is a pain... |
| 08:25.13 | florian | Who had this idea with the copy&paste?! |
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| 08:27.30 | woglinde | florian good so its pain for the spamers too |
| 08:28.28 | florian | woglinde: ltg uses a simple question which is _much_ easier to handle for humans and doesn't suffer from spam |
| 08:29.34 | woglinde | florian hm talk with ka6sox about it later |
| 08:32.05 | eFfeM_work | hm yeah, I've seen a place where they give you a small math Q (like 77-9= ) that is way much user friendly than the captcha thingie |
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| 08:44.34 | florian | indeed |
| 08:45.47 | bluelightning | hi florian, woglinde, all |
| 08:45.59 | bluelightning | & eFfeM_work |
| 08:46.21 | florian | hi bluelightning |
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| 09:00.40 | eFfeM_work | hi bluelightning |
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| 10:01.28 | ericben | good morning |
| 10:03.16 | florian | hi ericben |
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| 10:08.41 | ericben | hi florian |
| 10:09.19 | ericben | I'm trying to build 2011.03 maintenance on a brand new Ubuntu 11.04 setup and it fails on perl-native (undefined reference to pthread_xxx + undefined reference to floor/sin/atan2 & co |
| 10:09.38 | ericben | any idea of what could be wrong there ? |
| 10:11.31 | ericben | seem to be a solution here : https://gist.github.com/925006 |
| 10:12.44 | bluelightning | ericben: I think it's the same problem we have seen in oe-core, they moved some stuff in /lib in 11.04 |
| 10:13.51 | bluelightning | there was a proposed fix but it's still being worked through |
| 10:13.58 | bluelightning | part of the discussion: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2011-April/001718.html |
| 10:14.17 | ericben | bluelightning: thanks, I'm back from holidays and didn't yet read all the threads ;-) |
| 10:14.42 | ericben | holidays is evil when using OE ;-) |
| 10:14.51 | bluelightning | ericben: no worries, coincidentally I've just been discussing this very issue with someone in #yocto :) |
| 10:15.19 | bluelightning | yes, it's hard to keep up sometimes |
| 10:15.47 | ericben | in fact each new ubuntu release is also evil when using OE :-D |
| 10:16.25 | bluelightning | Ubuntu certainly like blazing new trails, I'll give them that :) |
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| 12:07.52 | ericben | bluelightning: thanks, the patch fixed the perl-native problem |
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| 13:04.03 | tasslehoff | I need to unpack a rootfs.tar.bz2, do a couple of changes to a script, and pack it again. How do I do that in a correct way, keeping all permissions and other stuff that matters. |
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| 13:23.50 | hrw | woglinde: your phone number still has 1577*176? |
| 13:23.57 | woglinde | hrw yes |
| 13:24.04 | woglinde | do you want call me now= |
| 13:24.05 | woglinde | ? |
| 13:24.17 | hrw | woglinde: no, send courier with linksys |
| 13:24.27 | woglinde | o.O |
| 13:24.47 | woglinde | what? |
| 13:25.13 | hrw | woglinde: wrt54gs for OE e.V. to be used during linuxtag event |
| 13:25.24 | hrw | woglinde: mails from week ago |
| 13:25.46 | woglinde | AH |
| 13:25.52 | woglinde | I thought the progbear |
| 13:26.03 | woglinde | you will send it now? |
| 13:26.09 | woglinde | or this day |
| 13:26.29 | hrw | woglinde: courier pickup on 4th May so next friday/monday at your work it will be |
| 13:27.00 | hrw | I mean 6th or 9th May |
| 13:27.15 | hrw | or wait.... |
| 13:27.26 | hrw | woglinde: can you meet me at SXF on Sunday? |
| 13:28.26 | hrw | I totally forgot... I am departing from SXF on Sunday 8th May so will be there ~11:00 probably |
| 13:29.06 | woglinde | hm you drive again directly there? |
| 13:29.48 | woglinde | or with train |
| 13:30.53 | hrw | direct bus to sxf |
| 13:31.07 | woglinde | okay |
| 13:31.12 | woglinde | should be possible |
| 13:31.21 | woglinde | I can take tobi with me |
| 13:31.48 | hrw | cool |
| 13:32.15 | hrw | will give you details on 7th May by sms as then I will know at what time I will arrive |
| 13:33.38 | woglinde | okay |
| 13:41.24 | blindvt | woglinde, -ENOPATCH for libgcc_eh libubacktrace |
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| 14:35.14 | JDuke128 | hi , is dm355 and dm365 same ? i see oe only supports DM355 ? |
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| 15:29.16 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:29.24 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 15:29.54 | kergoth | hey CosmicPenguin, how's it going? |
| 15:29.58 | kergoth | haven't talked to you in a while |
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| 15:38.32 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: its going. How about you? |
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| 15:39.01 | kergoth | pretty good, busy, same shit as always, hacking on oe stuff day and night -- i need a hobby |
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| 16:01.32 | CosmicPenguin | This evening the role of CosmicPenguin will be played by a kernel rebasing monkey |
| 16:03.30 | kergoth | exciting stuff /eyeroll |
| 16:04.46 | CosmicPenguin | Welcome to my world |
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| 17:21.44 | darknighte | blech. |
| 17:22.46 | darknighte | is there a mirror with source packages that I can use? I'm starting from scratch on the 2011.03 and keep finding pacakges that doen't exist at the recipe locations anymore. |
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| 17:40.40 | khem | darknighte: sources.openembedded.org |
| 17:41.13 | darknighte | strange, I thought that was already set up. I must have something broken in my config. |
| 17:41.29 | Crofton | what distro are you buidling |
| 17:41.35 | darknighte | Angstrom |
| 17:41.40 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 17:41.45 | khem | then use angstrom mirror |
| 17:41.49 | Crofton | that has a good source mirror |
| 17:42.28 | Crofton | 2011.3 maintenance branch? |
| 17:42.50 | darknighte | yep. with a little bit of changes internally, but mostly to get around proxy stuff. |
| 17:42.51 | khem | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ |
| 17:43.17 | Crofton | hmmm, I wonder if the proxies are tripping you up |
| 17:43.19 | darknighte | I know we were thinking about setting up a mirror internally for a while, so there might be some residual from tha. |
| 17:43.33 | darknighte | Crofton: For sure! What a pain. |
| 17:44.18 | Crofton | did you look at the oebb.sh script? |
| 17:44.28 | mlip | khem, regarding your python 3rd party extensions issue: maybe you could try http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/3033/ |
| 17:44.41 | Crofton | I think koen (and others) have done quite a bit of work on the proxy issue |
| 17:45.02 | darknighte | Crofton: it has been getting much better |
| 17:45.40 | khem | darknighte: your IT must acknowledge that you work on opensource |
| 17:46.08 | darknighte | wishes that were true! |
| 17:46.20 | darknighte | sighs heavily |
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| 19:09.46 | kergoth | sighs |
| 19:09.52 | kergoth | natty upgrade just made my machine not bootable |
| 19:09.56 | kergoth | i should really know better by now |
| 19:09.58 | woglinde | uhm? |
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| 19:10.25 | woglinde | you have a special machine? |
| 19:10.36 | kergoth | nope |
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| 19:12.36 | foerster | won't upgrade for fear that things will break. |
| 19:12.43 | khem | kergoth: what was it running before narry |
| 19:12.44 | khem | natty |
| 19:12.55 | kergoth | maverick |
| 19:12.56 | khem | maverick ? |
| 19:13.01 | khem | hmm that should have worked |
| 19:13.14 | khem | what does it complain about |
| 19:13.18 | kergoth | foerster: yeah, i was hesitant, nearly every attempt to upgrade to a newer ubuntu has ended in miserable failure to me for the past 4 releases or so |
| 19:13.25 | kergoth | i should know better, need to wait until it stabilizes first |
| 19:13.32 | foerster | kergoth: I'm still on lucid |
| 19:13.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:13.47 | khem | kergoth: I have upgraded ok for past year or so |
| 19:14.03 | khem | infact I was amazed when I could upgrade my machine from 8.04 to 10.04 |
| 19:14.08 | khem | and it still worked |
| 19:14.21 | foerster | On my personal machines, I upgraded every release and never had a problem. |
| 19:14.50 | khem | usually wiping out is better |
| 19:14.54 | khem | I have a script |
| 19:15.16 | khem | which backsup all I need to network drive |
| 19:15.29 | khem | and then a set of steps to do on newly installed machine |
| 19:15.51 | khem | it takes me 30mins to rebuild a machine to the point I was on previous release |
| 19:15.55 | khem | so I prefer to wipe out |
| 19:15.59 | foerster | wow, fast |
| 19:16.35 | foerster | I'm too scared to have OE stop working, especially since I'm trying to get a product finalized for release! Down time would be killer. |
| 19:16.41 | khem | one of these days I want to try gentoo |
| 19:17.00 | khem | yes dont upgrade if it aint broke |
| 19:17.10 | Crofton|work | foerster, good luck! |
| 19:17.26 | foerster | Crofton|work: thanks! |
| 19:17.56 | khem | kergoth: whats the order of evaluations 1. _append override 2. virtclass 3. anon python func |
| 19:18.04 | kergoth | I'm glad i just finished this sprint |
| 19:18.31 | kergoth | khem: I'd expect virtclass is applied before appends and overrides, but haven't checked |
| 19:18.33 | foerster | I have enough trouble getting OE to do what I want, let alone aggravating the situation by upgrading my host machine. :) |
| 19:19.08 | khem | kergoth: I thought virtclass munged at very end |
| 19:19.23 | khem | and how about python snippets |
| 19:19.34 | khem | they are evaluated in the oder they appear ? |
| 19:19.40 | kergoth | snippets are the same as variable references, they're evaluated at expansion time, period |
| 19:20.03 | khem | hmm |
| 19:20.34 | khem | python () { gettext_after_parse(d) |
| 19:20.35 | khem | } |
| 19:21.01 | khem | this will be referenced |
| 19:21.16 | khem | essentially if someone inherits gettext |
| 19:21.19 | woglinde | thinks kergoth has a special machine which needs special kernel |
| 19:21.34 | kergoth | it's a regular box with no special hardware at all |
| 19:21.40 | khem | well natty needs a good graphics card |
| 19:21.50 | kergoth | sata, nvidia video, nothing crazy |
| 19:22.01 | khem | otherwise they also have a classic booting option |
| 19:22.29 | woglinde | kergoth and were it fails? |
| 19:22.31 | woglinde | initrd? |
| 19:22.37 | woglinde | grub? |
| 19:23.04 | khem | that would be easy to fix once you boot into liveCD and mount your hd |
| 19:23.26 | kergoth | yeah, i'm sure i can fix it by reinstalling grub, cpu powers off before grub even shows up |
| 19:23.30 | kergoth | but still pretty weak |
| 19:24.02 | woglinde | ? |
| 19:24.04 | khem | kergoth: when will gettext_after_parse evaluate in my case |
| 19:24.13 | woglinde | when cpu powersoff before grub, there is something broken anyway |
| 19:24.21 | kergoth | well, it worked fine before ubuntu fucked it up again |
| 19:24.46 | woglinde | what did you have before? |
| 19:24.50 | woglinde | maverick? |
| 19:26.03 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:26.29 | woglinde | so its no grub1->grub2 think |
| 19:26.32 | woglinde | ups thing |
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| 19:30.53 | darknighte | so, I'm trying to use the the angstrom mirror, but I appear to be putting it into the wrong place. any tips on where to put it? |
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| 19:35.39 | khem | darknighte: inherit angstrom_mirrors |
| 19:35.58 | khem | or angatrom-mirrors whatever the class is called in local.conf |
| 19:36.01 | khem | INHERIT |
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| 19:36.10 | darknighte | I tried that, but it didn't appear to work for me. |
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| 19:39.18 | darknighte | I'm may have had garbage in my tmp folder, because I just started it again, using the own_mirrors.bbclass, which is tied to the SOURCE_MIRROR_URL variable. |
| 19:40.59 | darknighte | it's hard to tell as I turned all the debugging output on from bitbake, and, well, it's a lot. |
| 19:42.13 | foerster | darknighte: watch the traffic with wireshark? |
| 19:42.34 | darknighte | foerster: thanks for the suggestion. |
| 19:43.34 | darknighte | In retrsospect, I probably should have purged my DL_DIR to force the issue. |
| 19:44.23 | foerster | I used own-mirrors.bbclass last night for the first time to leverage the DL_DIR from my desktop to my laptop. it worked as expected. |
| 19:45.52 | darknighte | khem: you may have hit it with the INHERIT case. |
| 19:46.13 | darknighte | foerster: so, what steps did you do? |
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| 19:47.12 | foerster | just set: |
| 19:47.22 | foerster | SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "http://192.168.10.82:8333/" |
| 19:47.26 | foerster | INHERIT += "own-mirrors" |
| 19:47.34 | foerster | in local.conf |
| 19:48.09 | darknighte | darn it. I must have a typo. |
| 19:48.14 | darknighte | let me look at it again. |
| 19:49.22 | foerster | darknighte: run bitbake -e <somepackage> |
| 19:49.37 | foerster | then you can look and see what SOURCE_MIRROR_URL and PREMIRRORS are set to |
| 19:49.40 | darknighte | i just did on the top level. |
| 19:50.21 | darknighte | SOURCE_MIRROR_URL was right. |
| 19:50.26 | darknighte | I just found the issue. |
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| 19:50.37 | darknighte | bangs head into wall several times for being an ideot |
| 19:53.16 | darknighte | foerster: in case you're curious, here's the bad line: INHERT += own-mirrors |
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| 19:53.52 | foerster | Ah. And no complaining by bitbake when parsing that? |
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| 19:54.07 | FarMcKon1 | hey. I have a bitbake question if someone has a min. |
| 19:54.40 | FarMcKon1 | I have a project I just pulled down and built. I removed "WORK_RM" and I can see the source files. Can I patch and rebuild directly in that directory somehow? |
| 19:55.19 | woglinde | you can stay with WORK_RM |
| 19:55.23 | FarMcKon1 | ie, can I edit the source and rebuild for testing before I commit my changes? bitbake -f project does not seem to do that. |
| 19:55.24 | darknighte | foerster: not that I saw. |
| 19:55.27 | woglinde | use bitbake -c devshell foo |
| 19:55.44 | woglinde | than you can run all the scripts from temp dir |
| 19:55.50 | foerster | darknighte: bummer. Well, hopefully you have it working now. |
| 19:55.53 | FarMcKon1 | woglinde. OK., cool. |
| 19:55.56 | woglinde | use bitbake -c build foo |
| 19:56.03 | woglinde | builds all besides the remove |
| 19:56.16 | darknighte | foerster: Thanks. I just kicked it off again. |
| 19:56.53 | FarMcKon1 | hmm. devs hell. Good name for it. |
| 19:57.16 | Far_McKon | woglinde: thx for the tip. |
| 19:57.35 | woglinde | no prob |
| 19:57.54 | woglinde | hell comes from poorly code quality |
| 19:58.03 | darknighte | wishes he'd noticed the devs hell thing before... |
| 19:58.06 | woglinde | of other software |
| 19:58.29 | darknighte | woglinde: +1 |
| 19:59.20 | Far_McKon | also comes from *tons* of outdated bitbake info on the web. |
| 19:59.33 | woglinde | hm |
| 19:59.44 | Far_McKon | I spent about 2 hours trying to get interactive mode working before I started checking version info and found devshell :( |
| 19:59.56 | foerster | Far_McKon: only way to know this stuff is to suffer through it ;) |
| 19:59.58 | woglinde | -i is gone |
| 20:00.09 | woglinde | but maybee will come back |
| 20:00.12 | Far_McKon | foerester +1 |
| 20:00.21 | darknighte | foerester: +1 |
| 20:00.25 | Far_McKon | ok. back to code. thxall. |
| 20:00.43 | darknighte | foerester: although, it's always nice when someone can "nudge" you back in the right diretion. |
| 20:01.21 | foerster | darknighte: that's true. I'm stubborn though. If I bang my head enough, I usually figure it out ;) |
| 20:01.56 | darknighte | woglinde: last I heard, -i was being left to any interested party to pick up and make work. |
| 20:02.26 | foerster | darknighte: feel free! |
| 20:02.32 | woglinde | darknighte that the comebacl |
| 20:02.37 | woglinde | ups comeback |
| 20:03.20 | darknighte | I thought about it and may take a look. I really used that feature *a lot* |
| 20:03.37 | foerster | If anyone hasn't tried it, -u goggle is nice. And on failure, you can right-click -> send to pastebin for the error log. |
| 20:03.52 | foerster | thought I cheated, and the pastebin url is dumped to the terminal that spawned the UI |
| 20:04.36 | kergoth | darknighte: I'd suggest making the text input box in the ncurses UI work, as a way to submit commands. might need something to map the command-line interface to the cooker command interface, not sure |
| 20:05.32 | darknighte | kergoth: I may get with you later for ideas on how to make it work. |
| 20:05.42 | kergoth | k |
| 20:05.43 | darknighte | l8r all. |
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| 20:38.01 | ant__ | hey woglinde |
| 20:38.44 | woglinde | he ant |
| 20:39.05 | ant__ | question: better having uinput built-in or as module? |
| 20:39.41 | ant__ | having it inn kernel -> FATAL: Module uinput not found. |
| 20:39.48 | ant__ | some stupid script... |
| 20:40.05 | ant__ | is solved if built as module |
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| 20:51.18 | CIA-32 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r63edb15ae9 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 20:51.18 | CIA-32 | linux: update Zaurus defconfigs |
| 20:51.18 | CIA-32 | * build uinput as module |
| 20:51.18 | CIA-32 | Signed-off-by: Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> |
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| 20:58.01 | Jay7 | ant__: btw |
| 20:58.22 | Jay7 | I see opie_*_cvs.bb recipes in some opie-* dirs |
| 20:58.40 | Jay7 | ah |
| 20:58.52 | Jay7 | they have git inside |
| 20:59.13 | Jay7 | I've thought that was recipes looking into hh.org cvs |
| 20:59.20 | CIA-32 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc2e89f1361 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.38/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
| 20:59.20 | CIA-32 | linux: update Zaurus defconfigs for 2.6.38.4 |
| 20:59.20 | CIA-32 | * build uinput as module |
| 20:59.20 | CIA-32 | * load on demand |
| 20:59.20 | CIA-32 | Signed-off-by: Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> |
| 20:59.29 | CIA-32 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2443357a73 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 20:59.30 | CIA-32 | Revert "linux: update Zaurus defconfigs" |
| 20:59.30 | CIA-32 | This reverts commit 63edb15ae9d37de9fa784eeff5a0448cf68d7244. |
| 21:01.02 | ant__ | Jay7: I was still testing for you...I first pushed one unwanted change |
| 21:01.18 | Jay7 | ant__: thanks |
| 21:01.34 | Jay7 | is looking on fbreader.. |
| 21:01.52 | Jay7 | it would be nice to write recipe for building fbreader with opie.. |
| 21:11.29 | kergoth | okay, nixos is really nifty |
| 21:12.35 | khem | may be we should use nix for packaging |
| 21:12.39 | khem | on oe too |
| 21:13.28 | kergoth | it's just such an interesting concept |
| 21:13.57 | kergoth | when it builds a new "configuration", it basically reconstructs the entire distro, just pointing at different self contained packages, and reconstructing /etc from its config system |
| 21:14.03 | kergoth | mindbending :) |
| 21:14.14 | kergoth | i really really really like how you can go back to previous states easily |
| 21:14.16 | khem | yeah imperative systems |
| 21:14.24 | khem | lack that |
| 21:14.30 | kergoth | nods |
| 21:14.31 | khem | one can change a /etc/blah |
| 21:14.37 | Jay7 | lvm snapshots is other way to rollback ;) |
| 21:14.43 | khem | and kill the rollback |
| 21:15.20 | khem | today when you lost ur system to upgrade you might be likingit even more ;) |
| 21:15.22 | kergoth | and it's so easy to change a user's configuration without changing the rest of the system, due to the self contained hashed packages |
| 21:15.31 | kergoth | indeed, that's what got me envying :) |
| 21:15.45 | khem | Jay7: well you can backup whole your os on a secondary disk |
| 21:15.47 | kergoth | started playing with it in a vm the other day, quite intreguing |
| 21:15.53 | khem | thats not the point |
| 21:15.57 | kergoth | yeah, true, i really do need a better backup system also |
| 21:16.13 | kergoth | but this just buys you so much, and means your system is always in a coherent state |
| 21:17.02 | kergoth | wonder if anyone's crosscompiled the package manager itself |
| 21:17.21 | kergoth | doubt their build infrastructure supports cross, building a target distro would likely be similar to how debian does it |
| 21:17.32 | kergoth | but we could look into it through oe |
| 21:17.37 | kergoth | ponders |
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| 21:21.12 | kergoth | would have to generate the hash the same way they do, to build for compatible prefixes |
| 21:21.19 | kergoth | heh |
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| 22:26.23 | ant__ | khem: just try Gentoo asap :) |
| 22:26.44 | ant__ | ctarball of /etc is all what you need |
| 22:27.50 | ant__ | (just to readd your customizations) |
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| 23:53.50 | kergoth | tries stock debian instead for a bit |
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