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03:15.35CIA-4703Rick Foos <rickfoosusa@gmail.com> 07master * rf5a8b9cf63 10openembedded.git/contrib/testing/testscript.sh:
03:15.36CIA-47contrib/testing/testscript.sh: Detect MIN_BB_VERSION
03:15.36CIA-47* Fixes Bugzilla/5517
03:15.36CIA-47* extract the quoted string from BB_MIN_VERSION in config/sanity.conf.
03:15.36CIA-47Should work for all versions of bitbake
03:15.36CIA-47Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
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03:33.06demigod2khooray fixing the libtool output seems to have fixed my gtk+ issue from earlier. stupid *.la files had a bogus libdir path
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05:35.45phoe6My openembedded build-console is running for more than 12 hours on a 8core system with 1.7GHz speed connected to network of 10MBytes/sec.  Is such a long time common?
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05:36.25demigod2kthat seems like a pretty long time. the 8 cores only matters if you have setup things to go in parallel
05:36.50ka6soxdemigod2k, you can easily swamp the HD in most things with 8 cores setup in parallel
05:37.27demigod2ksure I just mean check uptime, its possible you think the 8 cores are working but will still see a 1.000 load average like I did today
05:37.33demigod2kcould be network limited, could be a lot of things
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05:37.51demigod2kbut no when I've been running things lately it has been 1-2 hours with most of the binaries already downloaded
05:38.04demigod2k12+ seems awfully long
05:38.10phoe6demigod2k: you do a --fetchall (some switch)?
05:38.39demigod2kI havent been using any switches. actually I'm just getting started with things, trying to bringup a board using OE for the first time
05:38.54phoe6I see.
05:39.25phoe6then, I don't know what really the issue issue. Does bitbake skip past failures on (target servers) or just keeps retrying?
05:39.51demigod2kit prints what it's doing you should be able to see the status on stdout
05:40.17phoe6yeah, I do see it. but did not see any skip msg so far.
05:40.45demigod2kand it shows what task its on. usually for me it's about 7000 total
05:57.38phoe6I don't see which task it is on, but I see the following msg. NOTE: package opkg-native-0.1.8+svnr599-r4: task do_rm_work: Succeeded
05:57.49phoe6It is at this point for a long time now.
05:58.41demigod2kif long is >5 mins I'd guess something has gone wrong
05:59.12demigod2kwhenever I see a build it usually has moved onto a new task at least every minute
06:01.51phoe6I see.
06:02.07phoe6what can be done, if you think that something has gone wrong?
06:03.07demigod2kctrl-c and try it again? I dont know. If it has sat there for way too long then I suspect something is wrong
06:06.51phoe6I see. thanks, I shall browse to look for possible errors and go for ctrl-c as a last resort.
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06:07.31demigod2kwell if the output isnt changing it sure would seem as if it has locked up
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06:50.49CIA-4703Mario Schuknecht <m.schuknecht@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r09da7564ee 10openembedded.git/recipes/u-boot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
06:50.50CIA-47u-boot-2009.03: use AMD fixups for AMIC too
06:50.50CIA-47* AMIC flashes are AMD clones and need the same fixups otherwise e.g. the
06:50.50CIA-47u-boot command saveenv may not work (depending on the sector layout)
06:50.50CIA-47* patch has been send upstream too: http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/82763/
06:50.50CIA-47Signed-off-by: Mario Schuknecht <m.schuknecht@dresearch.de>
06:50.51CIA-47Signed-off-by: Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de>
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07:49.37ericbenTartarus: with actual head, when compiling console-base-image & qt4e-demo-image using angstrom 2008.1 and targetting qemuarm,, I still have QA issues in gnutls, shroedinger, libcdio and mysql5
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07:58.25ka6soxmorning ericben, we worked today on solutions.
07:58.36ka6soxbut now I must sleep...not much last night.
07:58.45ericbenka6sox: hi ka6sox
07:58.52ericbencool
07:58.56ericbenhave a good night
07:59.02ka6soxthanks...
07:59.22ericbensolutions fgor qa issues or for oestat/jenkins ?
07:59.43ka6soxoestats/jenkins
08:00.06ka6soxI am terrible with Java but I think it can be done.
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08:01.33ka6soxjenkins expects full time connection but I think we can make that work by telling it the next time we will connect
08:01.41ericbenthat's a good new. now have a good night you may need it before going to jenkins :)
08:01.49ka6soxtrue
08:02.34ka6soxnn
08:06.22nataraj"bitbake nano", taking too long, anything smaller?
08:07.10natarajusually breaks at the end
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08:08.33natarajwhich is better on at91sam9263ek with Qt embedded apps, libc or uclibc?
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08:19.44ericbennataraj: I using eglibc with angstrom-2010 on armv5 without much problem for qt4e
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08:28.55natarajericben, is qt4e the latest stable, say 4.6.3 ?
08:29.20natarajERROR: 'virtual:native:/stuff/openembedded/recipes/automake/automake_1.11.1.bb' failed
08:29.49khemwhats the error
08:30.37khemericben: I dont understand why patchwork is freakin out on utf
08:30.54khemon contrary I applied a patch to fix utf in pw
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08:31.38natarajhttp://pastebin.com/7aMd9LQK, am i missing enything?
08:31.56natarajgetting this for 'bitbake nano'
08:34.17khemhmmm I wonder why it cant find aclocal
08:34.27khemwhat does your local.conf look like
08:36.05natarajkhem, aclocal of host?
08:40.31natarajhttp://pastebin.com/5vzidWEN
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08:49.43ericbenhi khem
08:51.18ericbenkhem, do you remember of youc ommit c6a86c6075bfba1c51fc9b85f941d1d530cb3db0 ? log sayys libtool > 2.4, comment says < 2.4 and in the end a test is ("${LIBTOOL_HAS_SYSROOT}" == "yes") : is everything right in this patch ?
08:53.38ericbenkhem: there is one issue in .la files in sysroot with angstrom 2008 and actual head. libstdc++.la, supc++, ssp.la and gfortan.la have a wrong libdir
08:53.47ericbenwith a full path instead of /usr/lib
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09:12.35ericbenhi eFfeM
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09:33.50eFfeMhow are you doing eric ?
09:33.56eFfeM(was afk for coffee)
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09:44.43ericbeneFfeM: fine, lot of work actually but far better than no work at all ;-)
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09:46.07eFfeMsame here
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10:38.26CIA-4703Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra73eb65b95 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gvfs_1.7.2.bb: gvfs: add 1.7.2
10:38.34CIA-4703Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r246abfc865 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/ (gvfs/async.patch gvfs_1.6.6.bb): gvfs 1.6.6: add patch to fix async_connection_accept_new_fd(
10:38.35CIA-4703Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd9f07823c0 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2010-preferred-versions.inc:
10:38.35CIA-47angstrom next: prefer gvfs 1.7.2 (unstable series)
10:38.35CIA-47Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
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11:23.43CIA-4703Jan Lübbe <jluebbe@debian.org> 07master * r8694f8356e 10openembedded.git/recipes/ofono/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
11:23.43CIA-47ofono: Ship test scripts as ofono-test-utils, ship udev rules
11:23.43CIA-47Also add USB-ID for a Sierra modem and add INC_PR.
11:23.43CIA-47Signed-off-by: Jan Lübbe <jluebbe@debian.org>
11:23.43CIA-47Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>
11:23.54CIA-4703Marcin Mielczarczyk <marcin.mielczarczyk@tieto.com> 07master * re52a8bf769 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
11:23.54CIA-47sciphone-g2: Initial support for Sciphone G2 (based on MT6235)
11:23.54CIA-47This patch adds Sciphone G2 target to OpenEmbedded environment.
11:23.54CIA-47It also defines osmocomBB repositories for U-Boot and Linux kernel.
11:23.54CIA-47Signed-off-by: Marcin Mielczarczyk <marcin.mielczarczyk@tieto.com>
11:23.55CIA-47Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>
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11:52.00mike_sgood morning
11:59.17otavioHow can I add a task that needs to be done after image build?
12:02.06otavioI think it can be done after do_deploy_to right?
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12:55.24CIA-4703Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r984fd8b83a 10openembedded.git/recipes/file/ (file-5.04/reloc.patch file_5.04.bb file_5.05.bb):
12:55.24CIA-47file: moved to 5.05
12:55.24CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
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13:00.54CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd8a8a01d2b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/micro.conf:
13:00.54CIA-47distro/micro.conf: drop exec_prefix_native since it is unused
13:00.54CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:00.54CIA-47Acked-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
13:00.54CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:01.35eFfeMotavio: pushed most of your patches, but not the cmake ones
13:01.35CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3e83cfe920 10openembedded.git/recipes/cups/ (9 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:01.35CIA-47cups: drop unused versions
13:01.35CIA-47Drop versions not being in use:
13:01.35CIA-47- 1.1.23 and 1.2.7 - old and not preferred by any distro
13:01.35CIA-47- 1.3.8 and 1.4.3 - D_P -1 and not preferred by any distro
13:01.36CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:01.37CIA-47Acked-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:01.51CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r84b2080965 10openembedded.git/recipes/cups/ (cups.inc cups_1.2.12.bb):
13:01.51CIA-47cups: merge cups.inc into cups 1.2.12 recipe
13:01.51CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:01.51CIA-47Acked-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:01.51CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.00CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3c1bb8fdd7 10openembedded.git/recipes/python/python-dbus_0.83.0.bb:
13:02.00CIA-47python-dbus: update to 0.83.2 and fix rpath to use absolute path
13:02.00CIA-47In case prefix and exec_prefix are empty, rpath can end up with no
13:02.00CIA-47absolute paths thus failing to build due a linking issue.
13:02.01CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:02.01CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.02otavioeFfeM: due any specific reason?
13:02.04CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdb688aaa48 10openembedded.git/recipes/qt4/qt4-tools-sdk.inc:
13:02.04CIA-47qt4-tools-sdk: use host include headers for dbus
13:02.04CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:02.04CIA-47Acked-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
13:02.04CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.23CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc90af4040c 10openembedded.git/classes/sdk.bbclass:
13:02.23CIA-47sdk.bbclass: cache ${libdir} as ${target_libdir}
13:02.23CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:02.23CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.30CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r917203ed7e 10openembedded.git/recipes/xkeyboard-config/ (4 files):
13:02.31CIA-47xkeyboard-config: avoid recipe code duplication and depends on intltool-native
13:02.31CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:02.31CIA-47Acked-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
13:02.31CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.53CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r781b459ec2 10openembedded.git/recipes/cups/ (cups14.inc cups_1.4.4.bb):
13:02.53CIA-47cups: merge cups14.inc into cups 1.4.4 recipe
13:02.53CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:02.53CIA-47Acked-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:02.54CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:03.10CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r92f66ee0a4 10openembedded.git/recipes/libinih/libinih_git.bb:
13:03.10CIA-47libinih: add
13:03.10CIA-47This provides a C and C++ INI library that can be statically linked
13:03.10CIA-47into projects.
13:03.11CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:03.11CIA-47Acked-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
13:03.12CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:03.22CIA-4703Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9ffa0df733 10openembedded.git/recipes/cups/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
13:03.22CIA-47cups: add textonly filter and split packages
13:03.22CIA-47Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
13:03.22CIA-47Acked-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:03.22CIA-47Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
13:05.44eFfeMotavio: the cmake one did not have acks, the commit policy requires two acks for toolchain related stuff, and also I don't have too much knowledge on cmake, so can't really judge them
13:08.09otaviorebases his tree to see what is pending
13:08.41otavioeFfeM: good; Nice improvement since yestarday :-D
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15:58.59dvwhat bitbake version do I have to use and what OE branch to successfully build my project?
16:01.03dvI'm using bitbake 1.8.18. is it ok?
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16:04.54davidltHave question regarding post-installation scripts.
16:05.21davidltI am building OS image and it looks like I have to clean those packages that has post-install scripts?
16:05.53davidltGNUtoo|laptop: hya
16:06.57GNUtoo|laptophi
16:07.23davidltGNUtoo|laptop: WiFi AP works without any problems
16:07.38davidlt2.6.36 + latest stuff I had
16:08.04GNUtoo|laptopwow I tried AP too
16:08.10GNUtoo|laptopI finally get hostapd compile
16:08.11davidlteFfeM: here?
16:08.19GNUtoo|laptopI've 2.6.30
16:08.23GNUtoo|laptopwhich chip already?
16:08.28GNUtoo|laptoplibertas_sdio_tf?
16:08.32davidltyeah
16:08.40GNUtoo|laptopnice
16:08.49GNUtoo|laptopyou ported it to 2.6.36?
16:08.52davidltTried like 10 times and it worked
16:08.56davidltYup
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16:09.00GNUtoo|laptopbuglabs would be *very* interested
16:09.05davidltAs latest version requires 2.6.36+ kernel
16:09.06GNUtoo|laptopthey had a lot of issues with libertas_tf
16:09.12GNUtoo|laptopok
16:09.20GNUtoo|laptopjconnolly|away, ^^^
16:09.33GNUtoo|laptopgrund, ^^^
16:09.45GNUtoo|laptopso what's needed to make it work?
16:09.50GNUtoo|laptop2.6.36+ and?
16:11.14davidlt2.6.36 + latest libertas_tf drivers from Steve deRosier new driver repo + firmware he send me
16:11.27eFfeMdv, at minimum you need 1.10.2 but probably better go for 1.12
16:11.34eFfeMthat is if you are usign head
16:12.14davidlt1.12 released?!
16:12.22eFfeMdavidlt: i'm not sure about your Q, what did you want to clean and why
16:12.26eFfeMyes
16:13.04eFfeMif you want to build a new kernel eg because you locally changed your defconfig; do a bitbake -cclean virtual/kernel;bitbake virtual/kernel
16:14.08davidlteFfeM: I made additional packages which holds bunch of configurations files for OS. I want them to overwrite old one. So I added that postinstall stuff and it only works then if this package was not build before. (clean OS image, build OS image -> no postinstall steps) (clean OS image, clean my package, build OS image -> postinstall executed)
16:15.29eFfeMhttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/42856/match=1.12.0
16:16.22eFfeMif you have a package that depends on kernel output you need to remove it
16:16.37eFfeMif it is part of the kernel building cleaning and rebuilding the kenrel will fix it
16:17.02GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, ok
16:18.06davidlteFfeM: my package contains such configs are syslog-ng.conf, named.conf, dhcpd.conf, etc.
16:19.46eFfeMwhy would you wnat to clean them, these are independent of your kernel
16:21.08davidltSo this packages copies config files(.tmp) to required location and I have pkg_postinst for package that replaces current config files with new ones on build rootfs.
16:21.39davidltBut it looks like that I have to clean my package (contains configuration files) each time I build OS image.
16:21.53davidltOtherwise pkd_postinst is not executed on build rootfs
16:26.20eFfeMdavidlt: better put these conf files in a separate package and add that to your image
16:26.38eFfeMthe os postinst should not install those conf files
16:26.47davidlteFfeM: So I did that.
16:26.49eFfeMthat is, the linux kernel postinst
16:26.54davidltpostinst is on that package
16:27.43davidltand I add that conf package to OS image
16:28.01dveFfeM, how can I get bitbake if http://developer.berlios.de/projects/bitbake/ is down?
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16:28.09eFfeMdavidlt: don't use postinst, rewrite your package that e.g. dns.conf is in the SRC_URI just like a patch is, then add it to FILES_${PN}
16:28.30davidltBut postinst from conf package is only executed if conf package is cleaned before
16:28.51davidltYou get conflicts
16:28.52eFfeMdv: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/bitbake/
16:29.10davidltAs some of configs might already exist
16:29.24eFfeMdavidlt: there are ways to handle conflicts, don't know details though
16:31.11eFfeMafk (food time)
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16:35.10davidlterror: pathspec '1.12.0' did not match any file(s) known to git.
16:35.12davidlthmm..
16:54.00TartarusHmm
16:54.17Tartarusmicro only seems buildable for meta-toolchain and minimal-image
16:59.57eFfeMdavidlt: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/bitbake/snapshot/bitbake-1.12.0.tar.gz
17:00.09davidlteFfeM: already running 1.12
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17:28.25GNUtoo|laptophi,
17:28.36GNUtoo|laptopbase-files_3.0.14.bb has:
17:28.42GNUtoo|laptopPR = "r99"
17:28.49GNUtoo|laptophow do I bump PR?
17:28.55GNUtoo|laptopis r100 > 99?
17:29.09GNUtoo|laptopr100 > r99
17:29.18GNUtoo|laptopI bet so
17:29.22GNUtoo|laptopbut it's ultra-core stuff
17:42.50GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, where did you clone the libertastf?
17:43.04GNUtoo|laptophttp://dev.laptop.org/git/users/javier/libertastf.git/ dates from 2008
17:43.18davidltGNUtoo|laptop: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/derosier/wireless-testing/
17:43.19zeckeGNUtoo|laptop: it should be, you can ask dpkg to compare versions. same with opkg
17:43.33GNUtoo|laptopok
17:43.36GNUtoo|laptopthanks
17:43.53davidltGNUtoo|laptop: There should be some additional patches, but Steve didn't have time to include them
17:44.05GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, ok
17:45.16davidltThere is also new firmware as the old one has several serious bugs
17:45.22GNUtoo|laptopahhh ok
17:45.37davidltGNUtoo|laptop: I was having lots of problems with old version, was quite unstable
17:45.46GNUtoo|laptopmaybe that's why.....
17:46.03GNUtoo|laptopbuglabs people had issues with libertas_tf_sdio
17:46.08GNUtoo|laptopmaybe because of the firmware
17:46.31GNUtoo|laptop" + firmware he send me"
17:46.32davidltThe old firmware might stop responding
17:46.39GNUtoo|laptopis that firmware public
17:46.40davidltEspecially if you bring up/down interfaces
17:46.43GNUtoo|laptop?
17:46.45GNUtoo|laptopok
17:46.55davidltHe said that it was unpublished
17:47.03GNUtoo|laptopok
17:47.06GNUtoo|laptophow to get it?
17:47.10GNUtoo|laptopand how buglabs could get it?
17:47.17davidltI think he send details to Gumstix mailing-list too
17:47.25davidltGive me email and I send you
17:47.43GNUtoo|laptopGNUtoo A no-log.org
17:47.54GNUtoo|laptopreplace the A wiht @
17:48.24GNUtoo|laptopbut could this firmware be used in commercial devices
17:48.27GNUtoo|laptoplike the bug20?
17:50.33GNUtoo|laptopI'm not from buglabs btw, but I've good relation with them
17:50.52davidltYou should probably read license on web
17:50.56davidltemail -> done
17:51.17GNUtoo|laptopok thanks a lot
17:51.33GNUtoo|laptopI'll try to import the sdio stuff to linux-next
17:51.50GNUtoo|laptopand then I'll try it
17:52.04GNUtoo|laptopbut buglabs people have already libertas_tf_sdio working on bug20
17:52.12GNUtoo|laptoponly that it didn't work well
17:52.16GNUtoo|laptopI bet because of the firmware
17:52.26GNUtoo|laptopdoes sta work?
17:53.10davidltSTA stands for ?
17:53.21GNUtoo|laptopstation
17:53.28GNUtoo|laptopnormal mode
17:53.33GNUtoo|laptopthat is you connect to an AP
17:53.55davidltHaven't tried that, but it worked on all version without problems
17:54.01GNUtoo|laptopok
17:54.05davidltGonna to full scale test in few days
17:54.24davidltJust have to manage my configuration packages which don't want to work nicely :)
17:54.52GNUtoo|laptopFeb 16 16:46:11 <jconnolly>     normal 'managed' mode connections would freeze and drop
17:55.26davidltdidn't had this problem with old stuff, but as I said firmware could stop responding
17:55.32davidltAt leas the old one
17:55.40GNUtoo|laptopok
17:56.06davidltI tested in on master mode like 10 times and worked fine
17:56.22davidltAP + DHCPD + BIND and it fastastic for now
17:56.24GNUtoo|laptopyes you told it
17:56.24GNUtoo|laptopok
17:56.27davidlt*fantastic
17:56.42GNUtoo|laptopah standalone setup?
17:56.47davidltYeah :)
17:56.49GNUtoo|laptopok
17:56.57GNUtoo|laptopbecause dnsmasq can only froward
17:57.03GNUtoo|laptopthe dns of your provider
17:57.06davidltNow I can directly with iPhone connect to Smart Meter data via Gumstix
17:57.12GNUtoo|laptop+ have some local stuff but limited
18:02.43davidltI hate postinst
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18:04.40davidltAny other ways to overwrite files?
18:04.54davidltIt looks like the most reliable way is to overwrite on first boot
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18:10.44GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, why do you want to override files?
18:12.02davidltI don't need default configurations, I have custom interfaces, syslog, DNS, DHCP and etc configurations.
18:12.23GNUtoo|laptopwhy not using the overrdes?
18:12.34davidltAnd there are several of them by changing one package you get different behavior of OS now.
18:12.42GNUtoo|laptopah ok
18:12.46davidltoverrdes ?
18:12.48GNUtoo|laptopbut you will have a big problem
18:12.55GNUtoo|laptoplike for instance:
18:13.29GNUtoo|laptoprecipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg-conf
18:13.38GNUtoo|laptoptheses are overriden files
18:13.47GNUtoo|laptopfrom file:// in SRC_URI
18:14.03GNUtoo|laptopbecause else....the file won't be handled by the package manager
18:14.15GNUtoo|laptopand an upgrade would overwrite the files
18:14.20GNUtoo|laptopor something like that
18:16.09davidltright now I get conflicts because old configs exists and opkg does not nothing, but gives error
18:16.39davidltBefore that configs are included in OS with additional extension and on first boot files are changed and services restarted.
18:17.06davidltSo I am looking how to change those configs file before rootfs is cooked as image
18:17.22davidltpostinst works, but I can't get it.
18:17.27davidltIt doesn't work always
18:17.50davidltSo maybe sticking to 'on first boot' method is best choice
18:18.33davidltI see that on one package it worked, on the other it didn't and I don't know why...
18:20.52davidltI could do rootfs change manually everything and after that run build to make image
18:21.01davidltBut still doesn't sound nice
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18:43.02ericbenhi Tartarus
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18:43.59ericbenhttp://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-February/030140.html + http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/719/ fix all rpath problems for armv5+angstrom 2008.1 + custom & qt4e-demo-image
18:44.59woglindeericben when you use the second patch
18:45.02woglinde-disable-rpath \
18:45.05woglindeisnt needed
18:45.08woglindeI meant the sed
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19:37.52GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, hi
19:37.59GNUtoo|laptoplibertas_tf_sdio: failed to load helper firmware
19:38.04GNUtoo|laptopdo I need a helper firmware
19:38.12GNUtoo|laptopor just a tf firmware?
19:38.27davidltyou need helper
19:38.38davidltuse the same from libertas-sd-firmware
19:38.38GNUtoo|laptopthe standard one?
19:38.45GNUtoo|laptopok thanks a lot
19:39.09davidltI will probably later write instructions and add patches on Gumstix Wiki
19:39.13GNUtoo|laptopok
19:39.42GNUtoo|laptopthe patches apply nicely on linux-next => will someone send them to mainstream?
19:40.02davidltI think, I found my problem with postint: empty else body in one place
19:40.26davidltthis is alpha driver (still) I doubt they would be included
19:40.57davidltbut sdio should be added into kernel 38 or later
19:41.15GNUtoo|laptopwow
19:41.41davidltHe told me that he is going to push that to kernel, to update current driver, but probably not soon
19:41.45GNUtoo|laptopsd8686tf_helper.bin is the right name for the helper?
19:42.00davidltYou can keep old name, name doesn't matter
19:42.21GNUtoo|laptopyes but I want to load it automatically with udev, not manually trough /sys/class/firmware
19:42.33GNUtoo|laptopand I've old name and it didn't load it
19:42.42GNUtoo|laptopI'll try with cp instead of ln -s
19:42.49davidltI left it exactly as in litbertas-sd-firmware, adding 'tf' is not required
19:43.43davidltcp litbertas-sd-firmware litbertastf-sd-firmware
19:43.49davidltmake small changes
19:43.59davidltchange firmware in image and that's all
19:45.30GNUtoo|laptopom the archive I have: sd8686tf.bin
19:48.06davidltYeah, that's the firmware and use helper from libertas (old one)
19:49.03GNUtoo|laptopok
19:49.11GNUtoo|laptopI've that one:
19:49.31GNUtoo|laptopsd8686_helper.bin
19:49.43GNUtoo|laptopI'll look if buglabs has some infos as they use the same on bug20
19:49.56davidltI have never used plain OE, just Gumstix OE branch, but maybe I could try sending paches for kernel, firmware recipe, etc.
19:51.49GNUtoo|laptopyes
19:51.52GNUtoo|laptopthat could be good
19:52.31davidltI have other stuff that I could publish too probably
19:52.35davidltNever tried
19:52.57davidltThere was wiki page I think how to publish patches to OE
19:53.02GNUtoo|laptopyes
19:53.13GNUtoo|laptophttp://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded
19:53.32davidltand still this is alpha, so it might be rejected
19:53.54GNUtoo|laptopcan you pastebin me the content of:
19:53.57GNUtoo|laptopfind /lib/firmware ?
19:55.26davidltAm... Probably not, I run tree build environment and I lack HDD space, so I always delete on of rootfs
19:55.36davidlts/on/one/
19:55.46GNUtoo|laptopyes but I can't get the name of the firmwares right
19:56.07eFfeMTartarus: I'm building iscsi-target to see if I get the QA issue for calamari. I haven't seen it for sheevaplug (but actually I have never build iscsi-target for either neek or calamari before)
19:56.42eFfeMwill take some time though as my rusty old core2duo needs to rebuild gcc, linux, libs etc
19:57.19davidltGNUtoo|laptop: I can send you recipe + files
19:57.30GNUtoo|laptopok thanks
19:59.37davidltGNUtoo|laptop: done
19:59.45GNUtoo|laptopthanks a lot
20:04.43davidltProof that it works: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6561/iphonegumstixwap1.png
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20:06.27HopsNBarleyby any chance are you guys using the PSP kernel for the gumstix?
20:08.27davidltlinux-omap3 is used
20:08.41davidltBut this naming I think is only on Gumstix OE branch
20:09.38davidltand it is changed to linux-omap recently as omap3 and omap4 should be merged into one
20:10.22GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, btw about the recipe of the firmwares
20:10.39GNUtoo|laptoplook in recipes/firmwares
20:10.46GNUtoo|laptopthere is already one for some marvell firmwares
20:10.51GNUtoo|laptopsome toughs:
20:10.56GNUtoo|laptop*there is a marvell license in oe
20:11.02GNUtoo|laptopuse that if the license is the same
20:11.11GNUtoo|laptopand don't put LICENSE="unknown"
20:11.27GNUtoo|laptopthen be carefull of the name clash
20:11.32GNUtoo|laptopthat is to say
20:11.37HopsNBarleyah bummer, i'm using linux-omap-psp
20:11.42GNUtoo|laptopmake it possible to install 2 marvell firmwares in the rootfs
20:12.08GNUtoo|laptopfor instance split the sd8686_helper.bin
20:12.27GNUtoo|laptopthat is to say, make a recipe specially for that
20:12.33GNUtoo|laptopand depend on it
20:13.06davidltYeah, we could do it. There is license file for it on libertas-sd-firmware (I just deleted it for now :) )
20:13.30davidltAnd I don't know about libertastf firmware license
20:13.37GNUtoo|laptopok
20:13.46GNUtoo|laptopwe can't include stuff without license
20:13.56GNUtoo|laptopbecause else that means that it's not redistributable
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20:15.25davidltThere is somewhere license, you just have to look for it
20:15.40GNUtoo|laptopok
20:15.55GNUtoo|laptoplibertas_tf_sdio: failed to load helper firmware
20:15.56GNUtoo|laptophmmm
20:16.35GNUtoo|laptopI'll try to disable udev loading of firmwares
20:16.38GNUtoo|laptopand load it manually
20:16.51GNUtoo|laptopaltough the files match in uevent
20:16.54GNUtoo|laptop*filenames
20:21.04rob_whow is it to have mac os x as host ? the wiki talks not too good about it !
20:21.27davidltrob_w: I would like that too!
20:21.43davidltI think the problem is that not all software required for Bitbake is ported to Mac
20:22.08davidltMaybe I will try one day to test it
20:22.22rob_wbut as soon as all host and -native build it could work  ?
20:22.32davidltBut I have Mac Pro, which would be great for build environment
20:23.08GNUtoo|laptopstrange I load the firmware manually
20:23.09rob_wits not that i want that , but a collegue who is also a apple addict
20:23.11GNUtoo|laptopthen nothing happens
20:23.43davidltProbably, but some tools (I think) is hardware/kernel specific things, which are not easy to port
20:23.51davidltGNUtoo|laptop: so it works?
20:24.00GNUtoo|laptopno
20:24.02GNUtoo|laptopno interface
20:24.06GNUtoo|laptop<GNUtoo|laptop> then nothing happens
20:24.17GNUtoo|laptopnothing in dmesg
20:24.26davidltYou did everything right? driver patched? kconfig patches? reconfigured kernel and etc?
20:24.33GNUtoo|laptopaltough libertas_sdio worked
20:24.39GNUtoo|laptopyes
20:24.43GNUtoo|laptopI've ported all the patches
20:24.49GNUtoo|laptopgit cherry-pick
20:24.52GNUtoo|laptopevery single patch
20:24.55GNUtoo|laptopahha
20:24.57GNUtoo|laptopwait a sec
20:25.01GNUtoo|laptophang task
20:25.22GNUtoo|laptophttp://pastebin.com/c1Hk94ae
20:25.33davidltrob_w: come to Swiss, Apple is number one here
20:25.47rob_winvite me !
20:26.00GNUtoo|laptopprefers argentina where GNU/Linux is number one
20:26.56GNUtoo|laptopmaybe the platform stuff?
20:27.07ericbenhi GNUtoo|laptop : is you rlibertasdriver compiled in kernel or as a module ?
20:27.12GNUtoo|laptopin the kenrel
20:27.16davidltHehe, I think Bahnofstrasse in Zurich just became the most expensive street in the world
20:27.18GNUtoo|laptopbut it's libertastf_sdio
20:27.21GNUtoo|laptopnot libertas_sdio
20:27.27GNUtoo|laptophi btw
20:27.49ericbentry as a module. I had problems to load firmware as the timeout was reached and the filesystem was not mounted
20:27.58GNUtoo|laptopok
20:28.09GNUtoo|laptoptimeout as like in loading the firmware?
20:28.16GNUtoo|laptopI loaded the firmwares manually
20:28.21GNUtoo|laptoptimeout was not reached
20:28.36GNUtoo|laptopbecause I echo 3600 to /sys/class/firmware/timeout as soon as I log in
20:28.38ericbenis your filesystem already present when it tries to load the firmware ?
20:28.39GNUtoo|laptopthen I do that:
20:28.42GNUtoo|laptopyes
20:28.47GNUtoo|laptopas I do it manually
20:28.47ericbenah ok
20:28.49GNUtoo|laptoplike that:
20:28.55GNUtoo|laptopcd /sys/class/firmware/
20:28.57ericbenyou filrst load the loader ?
20:28.58GNUtoo|laptopcd mmc*
20:29.03GNUtoo|laptopecho 1 > loading
20:29.17GNUtoo|laptopcat /lib/firmware/foo_helper.bin
20:29.21GNUtoo|laptopoops
20:29.30GNUtoo|laptopI'll restart:
20:29.39GNUtoo|laptopcat uevent
20:29.43GNUtoo|laptopfor getting the file name
20:29.45GNUtoo|laptopthen
20:29.48GNUtoo|laptopecho 1 > loading
20:29.54GNUtoo|laptopcat /lib/firmware/foo_helper.bin > data
20:29.58GNUtoo|laptopecho 0 > loading
20:29.59GNUtoo|laptopcd ..
20:30.05GNUtoo|laptopcd mmc*
20:30.26GNUtoo|laptopecho 1 > loading; cat /lib/firmware/footf.bin> data;echo 0 > loading
20:30.26ericbenand th esame thing with the firmware
20:30.27GNUtoo|laptopcd ..
20:30.35GNUtoo|laptopyes
20:30.38ericbenthat should work
20:30.45GNUtoo|laptopit works for the normal driver
20:30.46ericbenit's wired using spi ?
20:30.52GNUtoo|laptopbut not for libertas thin firmware sdio
20:30.58ericbenah ok
20:31.05ericbennever used this one
20:31.06GNUtoo|laptopthat has AP
20:31.18GNUtoo|laptopbasically with that one you can make an AP
20:31.31GNUtoo|laptopbut it seems that you need a not-yet-released firmware to get it stable
20:31.37ericbenI understand
20:31.38GNUtoo|laptopwhich davidlt gave me
20:31.57ericbenthis works with 8686 chipsets ?
20:31.59GNUtoo|laptopI *must* tell buglabs about it
20:32.00GNUtoo|laptopyes
20:32.07GNUtoo|laptopbuglabs on their bug20 had that
20:32.12GNUtoo|laptopbut I bet they had the old firmware
20:32.20GNUtoo|laptopso it wasn't stable in station/managed mode
20:32.35GNUtoo|laptopso they now use libertas_sdio by default
20:33.46GNUtoo|laptopericben, btw I've got 1 ack for the bugbase support in linux-next: Acked-by: Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig A pengutronix.de>
20:33.52GNUtoo|laptopI did stupid stuff
20:34.05GNUtoo|laptopbecause I always did that as the last stuff before going to bed....
20:34.25GNUtoo|laptopso I was a bit tired and forgott to use whitespace.el during the v2
20:35.33GNUtoo|laptopI also forgott a , at the end of an array
20:35.53GNUtoo|laptopthat is not very professional.....
20:36.03GNUtoo|laptopbut I've a lot of stuff to do....
20:36.54ericbenGNUtoo|laptop: I(ve seens on arm-kernel ml
20:36.58GNUtoo|laptopok
20:37.05ericbenso that will be in 2.6.39
20:37.18GNUtoo|laptopI bet 1 ack is not enough
20:37.41ericbenGNUtoo|laptop: it will be taken by Sascha in its tree
20:37.45GNUtoo|laptopah ok nice
20:37.52ericbenI think
20:38.01GNUtoo|laptopI think I should get a bug20
20:38.12ericbenping them in a few time if that's not the case
20:38.17GNUtoo|laptopok
20:38.17ericbenthe one with omap ?
20:38.20GNUtoo|laptopyes
20:38.50GNUtoo|laptopthey say it has less hardware issues
20:39.21dvhttp://pastebin.com/qDZBkVLX
20:39.30dvbitbake 1.12.0, oe master
20:39.40GNUtoo|laptoplot of rpaths issues it seem
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20:39.50dvhow to fix it?
20:39.57GNUtoo|laptopI had some rpath issues with boost
20:39.59GNUtoo|laptopI abandoned
20:40.15GNUtoo|laptopas I didn't have it in my nokia900 tmpdir
20:40.32GNUtoo|laptopbasically bosot uses jam
20:40.32ericbendv :  http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-February/030140.html +  http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/719/
20:40.35GNUtoo|laptopwhich isn't great
20:40.46GNUtoo|laptopsee the comments in the files.....
20:41.02GNUtoo|laptopah nice
20:41.20ericbenok back to sysadmin tasks, not fun but I have to do that this weekend :)
20:41.22ericbenye
20:41.24ericbenbye
20:41.32GNUtoo|laptoplol ok bye
20:41.43GNUtoo|laptopI've to do some sysadmin stuff from time to time too
20:44.27davidltoff-topic: any one has netbook?
20:45.26dvdavidlt, asus eee
20:45.43davidltdv: was it worth the money as secondary computer?
20:46.10Jay7btw.. should do some sysadmin tasks too
20:47.25dvdavidlt, It's my doughter pc.If I'd need portable pc, I'd bay it for myself too
20:48.35davidltI always have computer with myself, so I am thinking of getting something lighter, more battery life and 3G.
20:48.57davidltAs you always can get magic call saying that there is urgent demo and we need something fixed asap.
20:49.58GNUtoo|laptopdavidlt, eee701, supported by oe
20:50.09davidltLenovo ThinkPad X120e looks amazing
20:50.19dvdavidlt, urgent demo? seems like design issue
20:50.56davidltdv: there are tons of issues :D But I can rewrite the whole stuff it wasn't even my job
20:51.23dvdavidlt, depends on task. for admin tasks eee is the best choice
20:52.08davidltI remember those 7" eee pc, didn't look look or feel good
20:52.37davidltWe actually even tried running Netbeans once on them (had to make modifications), that was funny
20:54.40davidltSo far that ThinkPad looks amazing, holds ~5:30 as remember, 3 usb ports, 1 of them allows to charge devices without turned machine, AMD Zacate, 3G, etc.
21:01.57davidltIf I want to run 'update-rc.d' in my recipe, do I have to inherit update-rc.d  
21:02.00davidlt?
21:03.01dvhttp://pastebin.com/qDZBkVLX
21:03.08dvdon't know how to fix this issue
21:03.23dvwhat do I have to update?
21:03.47ericbendv: I answered you a few minutes ago
21:03.48davidltdhcp-server is not started during boot
21:04.52ericbendv: apply the patches, rebuild gcc-cross (at least) then rebuild gnutls
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21:05.25dvericben, that two patches???
21:06.02ka6sox-awayJay7, ping?
21:06.10Jay7ka6sox-away: pong
21:06.17ericbendavidlt: yes check recipes/watchdog/watchdog_5.6.bb for example
21:06.25ka6sox-awayJay7, know any java programmers?
21:06.34ericbendv: at least the one from patchwork
21:06.51Jay7ka6sox-away: I know one
21:07.00Jay7what do you needed?
21:07.15ka6sox-awayJenkins plugin
21:07.36dvericben, fantastic :)
21:08.00Jay7ka6sox-away: have you some description ready?
21:08.19mwestermutters about using a tool that was written by developers for developers, instead.
21:08.50ka6sox-awaymwester, you talking to ME?
21:09.00ka6sox-awayhe he
21:09.02mwesterNot specifically.  Just generally.
21:09.09mwesterJava == COBOL.
21:09.24ka6sox-awaymwester, I had to LEARN COBOL...it was required
21:09.25mwesterIt has its place, and that place is as far away from build tools as is possilble. :D
21:09.38mwesterYeah, I learned COBOL.  and RPG.
21:09.45ka6sox-awayPL/1 too
21:09.52mwesterPL/1 Subset G
21:09.57ka6sox-awayrigh
21:09.58ka6sox-awayt
21:10.26mwesterWhich is why I'm qualified to pass judgement on the worth of COBOL and JAVA as integration languages.
21:10.31mwesterThey are not.
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21:11.10ka6sox-awaymwester, I"d love to use something else but I'm sure they dont' have clean interfaces.
21:11.14Jay7I agree, java is overkill for build tools
21:11.21mwesterBut, apparently, it's the ONLY language taught in schools anymore, so that's what the new kids at work think of when they think "programming"... which isn't so bad, except that they also think "JAVA" when someone says scripting.
21:11.24Jay7we have python already :)
21:11.43mwesterBingo, Jay7 -- that's a great language.
21:11.48ka6sox-awayJay7, not sure if the interfaces are clean enough
21:12.23Jay7I dislike both, but we have python required for bitbake
21:12.24Jay7so..
21:12.42Jay7but we have no jenkins/hudson written in python
21:12.55ka6sox-awayJay7, mwester we need to build statemachines I fear to deal with making jenkins happy.
21:12.56mwesterIt would *really* annoy me if I had to have a full java on my buildhost, just to report stats.  That would really SUCK.
21:13.17Jay7mwester: +1
21:13.30woglindehi kas6sox confrenece started?
21:13.40ka6sox-awayokay if we have a better tool lets find it.
21:13.44Jay7mwester: btw, there is more.. you will report stats from python bbclass anyway :)
21:13.47ka6sox-awaywoglinde, I go thursday to setup.
21:14.02ka6sox-awaybut starts friday-sunday
21:14.15woglindeso you have some time left
21:14.19Jay7which will be posted to your local jenkins via HTTP POST, which will POST it to master jenkins
21:14.21mwester"Let's see -- 4GB of RAM, let's give a GB to the JRE and hope it doesn't run out of memory, not because the app does anything with the memory, but because today's programmers are taught that they don't have to take care with memory management, apparently the almighty and magical JAVA garbage collector will solve all! - Bah humbug!  :D :P
21:15.01mwesterI need a local "jenkins" too?!!!!  No chance of that.
21:15.08mwesterRidiculous.
21:15.38mwesterLike making me buy a Range Rover -- so that I can get to the bus stop to catch a bus...  makes no sense to me.
21:16.11mwesterresigns himself to not being able to report on builds from his local builder. :(
21:16.33ka6sox-awayokay if this isn't practical I need something that *is*.  because the current setup is broken.
21:16.55mwesterIf all we're lacking is someone to write some code, someone please post some specs somewhere.
21:17.01ericbenthe is an API for hudson and example in python : http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Remote+access+API
21:17.22ka6sox-awayhudson == Jenkins ATP
21:17.27ka6sox-awayso that would work.
21:17.29ka6sox-awaybut...
21:17.42ka6sox-awaythe JVM is a question mark.
21:17.45ericbenyes, if you prefere here is the link on jenkins :-D http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Remote+access+API
21:18.41mwesterThe JVM is a big problem IMO.  I want all my RAM to go to building, not set aside for possible use by a java program.
21:19.26Jay7mwester: easy way is rewrite current oestats-client to store stats into bb persistent storage
21:19.35Jay7and post it after build
21:19.48Jay7then adapt server side to deal with this
21:20.06mwesterMy build machine is only a 32-bit machine, and the motherboard only supports 2GB RAM.  I would like to upgrade that, but it would annoy me if I was *forced* to upgrade that just because I had to have a JVM running all the time during the build!  I'm probalby the exception, though.
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21:20.34mwesterJay7,  I'll take a look at it.  Something for the airplane.
21:20.58mwesterI don't know Python very well, but it can't be that hard.
21:21.03ericbenmwester: most of my customeer run OE in a virtualbox under windows so you are not an exception ;-)
21:21.30CIA-4703Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r92f586853e 10openembedded.git/recipes/base-files/ (base-files/om-gta02/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): (log message trimmed)
21:21.31CIA-47base-files: update om-gta02's fstab and bump PR
21:21.31CIA-47The update is based on the default fstab,
21:21.31CIA-47it fixes a long standing bug where the rootfs was hardcoded
21:21.31CIA-47to /dev/mtdblock6 with the jffs2 filesystem.
21:21.31CIA-47The om-gta02 machine can boot from microsd or from mtd(jffs2 or ubifs),
21:21.32CIA-47so not hardcoding the defult rootfs is good.
21:22.18mwestergoes back to trying to rescue his MythTV server so he can watch the news this evening...
21:23.18davidltmwester: read first 7 sections of tutorial and you ready to go with Python
21:23.36Jay7there is bb's persistent storage
21:23.51Jay7not plain python but bb internals :)
21:24.47Jay7I think we should propose 2 RFC to ML
21:25.11mwesterThat's probably a good idea Jay7
21:25.21Jay7one about enchancing current oestats and one about migration to jenkins
21:25.29Jay7and let the battle begins
21:25.34mwesterYep.
21:25.54ericbenJay7: both can exist
21:25.57mwesterAs I understand it, we will have *no* oestats until we fix it, right?
21:26.29Jay7I can live with jenkins when it will be running on server-side :)
21:26.41Jay7mwester: yep
21:26.46Jay7we already have no oestats
21:27.08ericbenmwester: I submitted a patch which could help to recover oestat : http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-February/030136.html
21:27.22Jay7so we may adapt current oestats-client to post data to jenkins server
21:27.40Jay7but if jenkins can process it
21:27.45ka6sox-awaymwester, that is correct..till it gets resolved we can't run oestats
21:28.03ericbenJay7: current oestat is interesting for existing installations (private tinderbox fore xample)
21:28.11Jay7mwester: I have conversation with kergoth about new scheme stored somewhere
21:28.24Jay7if you are interested I may pastebin it
21:28.36ericbento I think it's better to start a jenkins-client.bbclass
21:28.54ericbenor something like this if jenkins is chosen
21:29.26Jay7well.. may be good idea too
21:30.00ka6sox-awayericben, that is 1/2 the equation
21:30.06ericbenJay7: actual oestat doesn't scale well for OE's community but is interesting on a company level
21:30.31ka6sox-awaythe other half is that jenkins expects clients to remain connected during the entire build process or it says the build failed.
21:31.11ka6sox-awayso if it takes 15hrs for a build and in the 14th hour it loses connection it calls that build "failed"
21:31.45ericbenka6sox-away: even is this case : Monitoring executions of externally-run jobs, such as cron jobs and procmail jobs, even those that are run on a remote machine. For example, with cron, all you receive is regular e-mails that capture the output, and it is up to you to look at them diligently and notice when it broke. Jenkins keeps those outputs and makes it easy for you to notice when something is wrong
21:31.52ericben?
21:32.21ericbenthe number 2 in meet jenkins's section of their site
21:33.07ka6sox-awayexternal reporting is what jenkins-client.bbclass will be
21:33.09ka6sox-awayhowever.
21:33.14Jay7I've quick look at API
21:33.28ka6sox-awaythe jenkins client still requires full time connection during build process.
21:33.38ka6sox-awaythat is the problem.
21:33.41Jay7well.. seems we can use it to post tasks
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21:33.59Jay7so we need only client class on buildhost side
21:33.59ericbenka6sox-away: so I don''t undderstand how they can monitor cron or procmail jobs ?
21:34.25ka6sox-awayits an "external" input.
21:34.39ka6sox-awayand becomes information passed back thru client
21:35.26ka6sox-awaybut the fundamental issue I have is that during a build the master and slave MUST remain connected or the master says that the build failed.
21:36.10ka6sox-awayso if the build is in .ru and the master is in .us then if there is a dropout of connection the build fails.
21:36.14ericbenka6sox-away: is that for the case of a build farm ?
21:36.24ka6sox-awayyes.
21:36.30ericbenthis is far over the case of oestat
21:36.46ka6sox-awayits a hudson/jenkins thing that is wrong for distibuted builds.
21:36.59ericbenbut do we care of distributed builds ?
21:37.04ka6sox-awayyes
21:37.06ericbenwe neeed reporrting
21:37.09ericbenah ok
21:37.16ka6sox-awayright..reporting
21:37.19ericbenso some people care of this :)
21:37.24ka6sox-awaywell.
21:37.32ka6sox-awayI will have "local" builders as well.
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21:37.47ericbenI think there are 2 differents usage : reporting & build farm
21:38.07ka6sox-awayright
21:38.07ericbenbuild farm is cool and will be a nice feature to have
21:38.29ka6sox-awayright I have promises of help to create a "local" buildfarm.
21:38.47ericbenbut reporting is similar to oestat and is what is actually missing
21:39.02ericbenand for reporting we don't need java on the build host
21:39.18ericbenonly a class to send log to a jenkins server
21:39.21ericbenam I wroong here ?
21:39.26ka6sox-awaybut because of the size of the project and number of configurations in the matrix we will have "external" for a long time.
21:40.49ka6sox-awaymaybe we could build a "connector" that is really local and bridge the jenkins-client to jenkins @ the server end.
21:41.47ka6sox-awayso clients would actually be "local" @ jenkins server with a plugin that converts.
21:42.03ka6sox-awaybut not running java on each node.
21:42.10ka6sox-awayand we could do it in python.
21:42.58ka6sox-awaymeans the jenkins server needs GB of RAM but thats cheaper than everyone having to upgrade their servrers.
21:45.12ericbenseems sane
21:47.44mwester after a bit of reflection, wonders if we should collect some requirements from the community.
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21:58.21CIA-4703Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc58b36f60a 10openembedded.git/contrib/marketing/oe-flyer.pdf:
21:58.21CIA-47OE official flyer - update to version which was printed in 2009
21:58.21CIA-47This is probably the only one existing copy of current version. Sources
21:58.21CIA-47should be somewhere on Mickeyl's harddrive.
21:58.21CIA-47We are using them on all events since LinuxTag 2009 where I took all
21:58.22CIA-472500 of them which were printed in Poland as a donation from me to
21:58.23CIA-47OE e.V.
21:59.04hrwmickey|zzZZzz: please dig your systems and harddrives for sources of OE flyer and push it to repository. it took me some time to find PDF with current version.
21:59.43hrwmickey|zzZZzz: otherwise we will have to find someone who will recreate it from scratch for next updates
21:59.56hrwhave a nice rest of weekend
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22:02.24ka6sox-awayjenkins-client.bbclass however needs to batch reports and send them when a particular package is done and when a particular "section" is done
22:02.35ka6sox-awayso when parsing is done send
22:03.06ka6sox-awaythat way we can keep status of where we are.
22:04.47Jay7so, as Crofton said, we need some working group to collect req's and discuss it
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22:14.32ka6sox-awayJay7, agreed...if there is better place to discuss I'd like to.
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22:21.23Jay7ka6sox-away: I think we should raise it in ML
22:21.44Jay7if no one will do it before I'll send mail a bit later
22:25.13ka6sox-awayJay7, that would be good as I am doing 5things at one time here.
22:30.34Jay7ka6sox-away: other idea to have page on wiki
22:31.05ka6sox-awayJay7, do it...perfect idea
22:31.14ka6sox-awaywe put requirements document there.
22:31.18ka6sox-awayand all edit.
22:31.32ka6sox-awaythen send to ML where it is.
22:31.36Jay7btw, do we have disabled registration still?
22:33.03Jay7I'll do in hour or two
22:34.51ka6sox-awayJay7, if you need one I'll create one for you.
22:35.15Jay7I have login
22:35.18ka6sox-awaybut yes, till we find a plugin that allows it to NOT be automatic then we have to disable.
22:39.33Jay7I think we may reuse Tinderbox page
22:40.04Jay7because current content it is deprecated anyway
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22:43.10CIA-4703Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07master * r034012e13e 10openembedded.git/recipes/xinetd/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:43.10CIA-47xinetd: Update recipe from 2.3.13 -> 2.3.14
22:43.10CIA-47* Fix autoconf so that it can be regenerated with
22:43.10CIA-47newer autconf versions
22:43.10CIA-47* Should work on armeb automagikally now
22:43.11CIA-47Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
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22:49.25mwesterAnd khem even updated xinetd!
22:49.39mwestercrosses off two items on his to-do list. Thanks khem!
22:50.29ka6sox-awayJay7, I'd rather not use that page as it will NOT be oestats/tinderbox anymore...to avoid confusion
22:50.47woglindehm who uses xinetd these days?
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23:03.20mwesteris guilty of using xinetd today... perhaps someone knows a better way?
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23:49.11Jay7http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/BuildStats
23:49.20Jay7ka6sox-away: ^^
23:49.58Jay7mwester, ka6sox-away, Tartarus: please add your ideas/wishes/comments there
23:50.31Jay7I've not mentioned any technical solution yet there
23:58.21Jay7now mentioned

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