| 00:00.00 | Jay7 | gnu-configize is broken too |
| 00:00.13 | Jay7 | as I've written in my mail some weeks ago |
| 00:01.26 | khem | Jay7: hmm |
| 00:01.39 | khem | let me look if I have a build around |
| 00:01.42 | Jay7 | autom4te: need GNU m4 1.4 or later: /var/tmp/oe/minimal/arm/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/m4 |
| 00:02.02 | khem | smells like some env var leak |
| 00:02.08 | Jay7 | khem: I have minimal/qemuarm/native-sdk-image |
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| 00:02.50 | Jay7 | autom4te error may be workarounded by M4=/usr/bin/m4 |
| 00:03.28 | Jay7 | autoreconf: running: gnu-configize |
| 00:03.29 | Jay7 | Can't locate Autom4te/ChannelDefs.pm in @INC (@INC contains: @autom4te_perllibdir@ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/gnu-configize line 40. |
| 00:03.31 | Jay7 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/gnu-configize line 40. |
| 00:03.42 | Jay7 | this is gnu-configize error |
| 00:04.03 | Jay7 | template in line 40 was unexpanded |
| 00:04.15 | woglinde | anyone knows why we disabled autopoint? |
| 00:04.29 | Jay7 | sorry, not 40 but line 29 |
| 00:04.44 | Jay7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.18 | Jay7 | woglinde: what is autopoint? :) |
| 00:05.54 | woglinde | jay7 autotools command for invoking gettext support |
| 00:06.00 | Jay7 | ah.. |
| 00:06.19 | Jay7 | well.. ppl, sorry, but I'm going to bed |
| 00:06.24 | Jay7 | too tired today |
| 00:06.27 | woglinde | nite jay7 |
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| 00:10.51 | atl19711 | Collected errors: * resolve_conffiles: Existing conffile /etc/device_table is different from the conffile in the new package. The new conffile will be placed at base-image/etc/device_table-opkg |
| 00:12.51 | atl19711 | I didn't invite device_table into my new recipe, its very unwelcome and I wish it would go somewhere else |
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| 00:15.11 | Tartarus | Well, it's a non-mangling that's going on for target stuff |
| 00:15.18 | Tartarus | Bah |
| 00:15.34 | Tartarus | Anyhow, target autom4te and such? We need to sanitize those contents for used to build vs what will exist |
| 00:17.37 | grg | atl19711, see image.bbclass:get_devtable_list() |
| 00:17.45 | grg | feel free to fix things. |
| 00:18.06 | atl19711 | grg: thank you |
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| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | 03chase maupin <chasemaupin03@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r67b511de87 10openembedded.git/classes/sourceipk.bbclass: (log message trimmed) |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | sourceipk: fix race condition with compileconfigs/multi-kernel |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | * This patch adds an empty compileconfigs function to the |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | sourceipk class. |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | * This is required because when making a sourceipk of a |
| 01:32.58 | CIA-2 | package using the multi-kernel.inc functionality you will |
| 01:32.59 | CIA-2 | have a race condition between the compileconfigs of the |
| 01:39.48 | Tartarus | ok, pulled killing legacy staging in perl in from poky |
| 01:39.51 | Tartarus | build testing now |
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| 08:16.05 | mckoan | good morning |
| 08:24.12 | JaMa|Off | moin |
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| 08:41.08 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * rf5a345b1cf 10openembedded.git/recipes/wpa-supplicant/ (wpa-supplicant-0.7.inc wpa-supplicant_0.7.3.bb): |
| 08:41.08 | CIA-2 | wpa-supplicant_0.7: Package dbus system-service activation files an bump PR. |
| 08:41.08 | CIA-2 | Without these files wpa-supplicant will not lauchn on-demand when the bus |
| 08:41.08 | CIA-2 | name get called. |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r4a5701f2af 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | angstrom-2008-preferred-versions: Bump wpa-supplicant version to 0.7.3 |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | This allows the use of the new DBUS API which is needed by connman 0.68 and |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | higher. |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> |
| 08:41.21 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
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| 09:09.40 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: ping, weird stuff ends in my perl config.sh http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331469/ notice that /OE/tmpdir-shr/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin is later replaced with .../..pdir-shr/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin in few variables (/OE/tmpdir-shr is my TMPDIR in local.conf), noticed because libxml-parser-perl-native-2.36-r4 now fails |
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| 09:17.14 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|zzZZzz: |
| 09:17.17 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|zzZZzz: ping |
| 09:19.00 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: before 49362da57224282f2dff462afa2e7ba9519ad7b5 it looks ok |
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| 09:22.52 | ka6sox | stefan_schmidt, ping? |
| 09:24.02 | stefan_schmidt | ka6sox: pong |
| 09:25.11 | ka6sox | stefan_schmidt, another patch day? |
| 09:25.30 | ka6sox | I have some maintainence but want to make sure its up if there will be one soon. |
| 09:25.58 | Jin^eLD | mornin |
| 09:26.02 | stefan_schmidt | ka6sox: well, I'm a bit overloaded with other tasks right now |
| 09:26.14 | stefan_schmidt | ka6sox: But I should try to do another one... |
| 09:26.35 | stefan_schmidt | ka6sox: at least not this weekend if that helps you |
| 09:26.52 | ka6sox | okay just put it on the list when you are ready I'll raise a flag if thats a problem. |
| 09:26.53 | ka6sox | thanksl |
| 09:27.04 | ka6sox | not this weekend means I can fix things. |
| 09:30.10 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: looks like only -Duserelocatableinc is the cause.. those sed calls in Configure script are replacing more then they should |
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| 09:39.17 | woglinde | ping denix |
| 09:42.15 | stefan_schmidt | ka6sox: ok, thanks |
| 09:42.20 | stefan_schmidt | hi woglinde |
| 09:42.26 | woglinde | he stefan |
| 09:51.00 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r0a509aeb50 10openembedded.git/recipes/ofono/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:51.01 | CIA-2 | ofono: Add recipes from poky. |
| 09:51.01 | CIA-2 | Also add the newest, 0.40, release. |
| 09:51.06 | woglinde | some one knows how to build a hg version of a package? |
| 09:51.18 | stefan_schmidt | has no idea |
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| 09:52.19 | woglinde | ah hehe bitbake foo-hg |
| 09:52.43 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 09:53.12 | woglinde | tryies hg version of cacao again |
| 09:53.33 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: yes libnl[12] is madness, that's why I've blacklisted libnl1 + recipes depending on it for SHR |
| 09:53.58 | woglinde | libnl 1 1.2 was madness |
| 09:54.21 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: having both libnl built in same sysroot breaks some apps (only runtime) |
| 09:54.43 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: urgs, even runtime? |
| 09:54.50 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: and ie older bluez was libnl1 only |
| 09:55.08 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: bad thing is that only in runtime (built ok) |
| 09:55.13 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: even worse then I thought |
| 09:55.28 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: yeah, build is at least visible |
| 09:55.47 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: besides oder bluez all recipes are ok for SHR? |
| 09:56.00 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: I wonder if angstrom should do the same then |
| 09:57.28 | mickey|office | morning stefan_schmidt |
| 09:57.33 | JaMa|Wrk | problem is that -c clean libnl1 is not enough to clean sysroot completely |
| 09:57.40 | mickey|office | stefan_schmidt: can we talk for a bit on weekend? |
| 09:57.41 | woglinde | hi mickeyl |
| 09:57.45 | mickey|office | moin woglinde |
| 09:57.54 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: sure |
| 09:57.56 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: I had to remove all traces of libnl1 before proper rebuild of apps against libnl2 |
| 09:58.07 | mickey|office | stefan_schmidt: ok, will call you on Sunday, if that's ok for ya |
| 09:58.11 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: urgs |
| 09:58.18 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: let me check |
| 09:58.37 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: sunday is empty right now. :) |
| 09:58.47 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: iirc shlibs etc.. |
| 09:58.59 | woglinde | hi jama btw. |
| 09:59.06 | JaMa|Wrk | hi woglinde |
| 09:59.32 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: hmm, I wonder if we coull avoid libnl1 completely in OE |
| 09:59.44 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: no FOSDEM for you? |
| 10:00.15 | mickey|office | stefan_schmidt: can't make it this year. playing in a musical on saturday, friday is final rehearsal, and only for sunday it's way too expensive and stressful for me |
| 10:00.30 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: makes sense |
| 10:00.40 | stefan_schmidt | will not be there as well |
| 10:00.45 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: see http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/70b13d30b335b8fd67116d3bc0834382a77bc319 for list of all libnl1 users |
| 10:00.49 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: getting uni stuff done |
| 10:00.57 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: thx |
| 10:01.05 | JaMa|Wrk | stefan_schmidt: haven't tried which ones can be also built and runs ok with libnl2 |
| 10:01.06 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: cebit? |
| 10:01.19 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: I might come around for a day or two |
| 10:01.21 | mickey|office | stefan_schmidt: yes, cebit i want to make, not all the time, but at least two days |
| 10:01.35 | mickey|office | nice, lets try to sync that then |
| 10:01.37 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: ok, then we should try to take the same days :) |
| 10:01.40 | mickey|office | yep |
| 10:01.51 | mickey|office | morphis wants to come as well |
| 10:02.22 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: hostap does work with libnl2 with the right config option. Same codebase as wpa_supplicant |
| 10:02.27 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: cool |
| 10:02.37 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: raster will be there as well. At the E booth |
| 10:02.47 | mickey|office | ya, heard about that. almost a family meeting then :) |
| 10:03.10 | mickey|office | still remembers the cool times over in Taipeh |
| 10:03.18 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: for the other I would need to check. some smaller thinks like iw or lowpan-tools should not be thjat difficult |
| 10:03.24 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|office: :) |
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| 10:06.23 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: Could you reply to the mail and bring in some of your experience? |
| 10:07.59 | JaMa|Wrk | yup doing it atm :) |
| 10:08.24 | stefan_schmidt | JaMa|Wrk: great |
| 10:10.14 | woglinde | I will be at cebit from thur-sat |
| 10:10.30 | stefan_schmidt | woglinde: cool |
| 10:11.05 | woglinde | mostly on the navit booth |
| 10:11.26 | stefan_schmidt | woglinde: oh, did not know you are active at the navit project |
| 10:12.03 | woglinde | yeah small things |
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| 10:14.01 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 10:16.04 | woglinde | args |
| 10:16.06 | woglinde | please |
| 10:16.15 | woglinde | no errors now on my harddisk |
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| 10:17.36 | florian | good morning |
| 10:29.05 | ka6sox | morning florian |
| 10:29.53 | woglinde | hi ka6sox |
| 10:30.15 | ka6sox | morning woglinde |
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| 10:31.59 | woglinde | hm in the phoronix tests ext4 hat better performace than xfs in all cases |
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| 10:37.36 | woglinde | ah nice the icedtea webplugin can now be build seperatly |
| 10:44.57 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07master * r18a238b620 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-bug.bb: task-bug.bb: Add bug core tasks used in our images |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * ra32e9b2026 10openembedded.git/recipes/buglabs-apps/ (183 files): |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-2 | buglabs-apps: BugLabs java applications. |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-2 | Tons of small apps that live on buglabs.net and are mostly arch independent. These |
| 10:45.07 | CIA-2 | recipes make them available for images and feeds. |
| 10:45.08 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r951c432cf1 10openembedded.git/recipes/images/bug-ramdisk.bb: bug-ramdisk: Add ramdisk image for QA testing |
| 10:45.09 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07master * r2ffe5731b1 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-poky.bb: task-poky.bb: Add poky and sato tasks we are using in our images |
| 10:45.09 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07master * re7246bd151 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-bug-feed-extra.bb: task-bug-feed-extra.bb: Add tasks for our feed |
| 10:45.11 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07master * rbe758d6589 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-bug-apps.bb: task-bug-apps.bb: Add tasks for BugLabs applications |
| 10:45.14 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07master * rb0170b91b7 10openembedded.git/recipes/images/bug-image-production.bb: bug-image-production.bb: Add BugLabs production image shipped on our devices. |
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| 11:11.48 | woglinde | wtf |
| 11:12.14 | woglinde | anfrage von messehostessen.info |
| 11:12.17 | woglinde | ups |
| 11:12.20 | woglinde | email from |
| 11:12.43 | stefan_schmidt | woglinde: don't tell your wife... |
| 11:12.48 | Jin^eLD | :)) |
| 11:25.12 | ka6sox | what I need is an inline translator for IRC. |
| 11:27.25 | tdebrouw | lol |
| 11:30.02 | Jay7 | ka6sox: /exec sometranslationscript "your text" :) |
| 11:30.13 | Jay7 | irssi should know that |
| 11:30.25 | ka6sox | maybe znc does |
| 11:31.10 | Jay7 | znc may be scripted with perl |
| 11:31.15 | Jay7 | I've tried once even :) |
| 11:31.42 | ka6sox | Jay7, today @ 00:00 there were a LOT of inserts from oe_stats but things didn't fall down and go boom. |
| 11:32.02 | ka6sox | 1/3 the load of what we have been seeing. |
| 11:32.12 | Jay7 | ka6sox: cool! |
| 11:32.53 | ka6sox | so once you get done with the new code we can put up a test vhost and see that it works. |
| 11:33.47 | ka6sox | no rush...just reporting. |
| 11:39.11 | Jin^eLD | genau |
| 11:39.13 | Jin^eLD | oops wrong window |
| 11:39.39 | florian | stimmt :) |
| 11:42.26 | woglinde | meistens |
| 11:43.14 | ka6sox | true! |
| 11:43.28 | ka6sox | I agree? |
| 11:44.06 | ka6sox | mostly |
| 11:44.16 | ka6sox | okay...will find something. |
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| 11:58.58 | Jay7 | ka6sox: I need more hours per day :) |
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| 12:00.22 | ka6sox | Jay7, so do I...been at this for almost 20hrs |
| 12:01.16 | Jay7 | remembers old'n'good times when he was unmarried :) |
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| 12:23.33 | XorA | boing |
| 12:23.45 | XorA | so who is going to FOSDEM then? |
| 12:37.25 | woglinde | rschus |
| 12:37.29 | woglinde | koen |
| 12:37.34 | woglinde | effem |
| 12:37.38 | woglinde | florian |
| 12:39.56 | dm8tbr | is going |
| 12:40.13 | woglinde | and crofton |
| 12:44.07 | like|away | will probably visit one day, no hotel |
| 12:44.22 | florian | hi likewise |
| 12:44.25 | likewise | hi |
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| 12:54.55 | XorA | hey florian |
| 12:55.19 | florian | hi XorA |
| 12:56.14 | XorA | florian: cya sat morning like normal I guess :-) |
| 12:57.06 | XorA | is flying to FOSDEM tonight |
| 12:58.00 | woglinde | xora hm |
| 12:58.04 | woglinde | ah right |
| 12:58.17 | XorA | woglinde: ?? |
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| 13:02.55 | woglinde | xora I thought it would be to early |
| 13:03.02 | woglinde | but tomorrow its friday |
| 13:03.06 | woglinde | hi chase |
| 13:03.19 | XorA | and friday == beer :-) |
| 13:03.36 | woglinde | was too overcorwded for me last year |
| 13:03.39 | woglinde | and to smoky |
| 13:04.01 | woglinde | chase I have one question about the last patch denix checked in |
| 13:04.02 | XorA | they said it was private this year so we can hope |
| 13:04.43 | JaMa|Wrk | you scared him :) |
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| 13:34.12 | RP__ | will be at FOSDEM |
| 13:34.33 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 13:34.36 | woglinde | ah right |
| 13:44.13 | florian | XorA: right |
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| 13:59.51 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r1206aa00bf 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-bug20-linaro_2.6.35.bb: linux-bug20-linaro_2.6.35: Add experimental recipe |
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| 14:00.03 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * rbeba6b5291 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/buglabs-autorev.inc: buglabs-autorev.inc: Add include file for BugLabs AUTOREV builds |
| 14:00.04 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r88609ddb59 10openembedded.git/recipes/buglabs-apps/com.buglabs.app.bugdash2.bb: com.buglabs.app.bugdash2: Bump for newer version |
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| 14:30.57 | eFfeM_work | backreading, actually I'll probably only be at fosdem on sunday |
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| 14:46.18 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * rd0173ea4bd 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: |
| 14:46.18 | CIA-2 | xserver-nodm-init: switch to ndm-init 2.0 to get a working matchbox session under Xorg |
| 14:46.18 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> |
| 14:46.18 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> |
| 14:46.18 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 14:46.30 | CIA-2 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@buglabs.net> 07master * r1dffad26a4 10openembedded.git/recipes/connman/connman_git.bb: |
| 14:46.30 | CIA-2 | connman: Don't prefer connman git version over the latest release in angstrom |
| 14:46.30 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> |
| 14:46.30 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> |
| 14:46.30 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 14:48.32 | eFfeM_work | likewise: are you going on saturday or sunday ? |
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| 15:01.26 | CIA-2 | linux-2.6.24: enable oprofile support/modules for hipox machine |
| 15:01.26 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> |
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| 15:19.56 | Tartarus | aims some hate at perl |
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| 16:04.28 | Helio_2000 | Hi, I'm using squashfs as my rootfs. But when I boot the image I get "opkg_conf_load: Could not create lock file /usr/lib/opkg/lock: Read-only file system.". How can I tell opkg to work in a different directory which will be mounted as rw (i.e. opt) ? |
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| 16:39.06 | woglinde | re |
| 16:40.52 | BlindMan | what are viable ext3 options on an embedded device, if normally run as a block dev (no mtd and the like) |
| 16:40.56 | BlindMan | ? |
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| 16:42.38 | BlindMan | besides using data=journal or ordered and noatime (but latter is more for performance, lifetime, etc.) |
| 16:43.10 | woglinde | use ext4 |
| 16:43.17 | woglinde | without journal |
| 16:44.10 | Tartarus | Helio_2000, read-only rootfs requires you to do some hacking to the various recipes |
| 16:44.19 | Tartarus | and make a writable /var/run and such exist via tmpfs |
| 16:44.31 | kergoth | we really need to find a cleaner method of implementing that |
| 16:44.38 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 16:44.40 | Tartarus | Yeah |
| 16:44.41 | BlindMan | woglinde: is 2.6.32 recent enough being production ready? |
| 16:45.06 | woglinde | blindman why you are stucked at .32? |
| 16:45.15 | BlindMan | woglinde: we got some issues with mass, timer based, hard power off tests and ext3 breaks usually |
| 16:45.33 | BlindMan | woglinde: to say the least, it's all very complicated :) |
| 16:45.53 | Helio_2000 | Tartarus: yes, I have mounted tmp, var/volatile and /etc as a tempfs |
| 16:46.03 | Tartarus | Helio_2000, need more than that |
| 16:46.06 | woglinde | blindman get better hw |
| 16:46.08 | Tartarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.21 | Helio_2000 | yes, well, those are linked into /var/volatile |
| 16:46.23 | Tartarus | k |
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| 16:46.43 | woglinde | hi sakoman |
| 16:46.44 | Helio_2000 | but, however, I'm worried about opkf writing here: /usr/lib/opkg/lock |
| 16:46.51 | Helio_2000 | *opkg |
| 16:46.58 | Tartarus | Kick opkg into using /var/volatile/ or whatever :) |
| 16:47.18 | BlindMan | woglinde: besides, I wasn't aware, that ext4 offers so much more in this respect, or rather, whats the minimum kernel version which should be used then? |
| 16:47.22 | Tartarus | also, check the log.do_rootfs for your image |
| 16:47.27 | Helio_2000 | hacking its recipe? isn't there a cleaner way? |
| 16:47.29 | Helio_2000 | aha |
| 16:47.35 | Tartarus | See if there's anything that's trying to be done in terms of setting things up there that could be done on the rootfs |
| 16:47.43 | woglinde | blindman sorry I cannt say if .32 is stable enough |
| 16:47.46 | woglinde | but maybee it is |
| 16:47.51 | Tartarus | And then kill off on device package management |
| 16:47.52 | Tartarus | I forget the var |
| 16:47.57 | Tartarus | but check classes/image.bbclass |
| 16:48.08 | woglinde | blindman do you have heavy write ops on the fs? |
| 16:48.22 | Helio_2000 | ok Tartarus I'll take a look, thank you |
| 16:48.28 | BlindMan | woglinde: I meant whats a reasonably new enough kernel version |
| 16:48.35 | BlindMan | woglinde: in this use case where it breaks, yes |
| 16:49.31 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:49.35 | woglinde | you could try it |
| 16:49.41 | woglinde | you have nothing to loose |
| 16:49.50 | woglinde | maybee its working better than ext3 |
| 16:50.03 | woglinde | or you can try backportin nilfs |
| 16:50.21 | woglinde | some one did it for the .29 ac100 kernel |
| 16:50.35 | BlindMan | hehe, nice idea, but let's see what they think of possible earth shattering suggestions :) |
| 16:50.39 | BlindMan | thanks! |
| 16:50.56 | woglinde | backporting isnt that hard |
| 16:50.58 | woglinde | and possible |
| 16:51.02 | woglinde | mom |
| 16:51.13 | woglinde | try gitouroius.org/ac100 |
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| 17:08.31 | likewise | kergoth: we could start by writing down what needs to be done each recipe to deal with read-only rootfs. I was about to start that effort for what I need. |
| 17:08.45 | hrw | see you on fosdem (for those who will be there) |
| 17:08.50 | likewise | kergoth: I also think things like update-alternatives can also be done build-host-side |
| 17:08.52 | likewise | hrw: see you |
| 17:09.01 | woglinde | bye hrw |
| 17:09.29 | Tartarus | Hmm, khem at FOSDEM? |
| 17:09.46 | woglinde | domnt thinkso |
| 17:09.53 | woglinde | he said he is busy this week |
| 17:10.43 | Tartarus | Ah |
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| 17:24.31 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: did you notice my ping? |
| 17:26.04 | Tartarus | nope, sorry |
| 17:26.05 | Tartarus | shoot |
| 17:26.59 | Tartarus | ok |
| 17:27.01 | Tartarus | So you see that too |
| 17:27.03 | Tartarus | Debian/testing? |
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| 17:27.37 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331713/ |
| 17:27.44 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: gentoo |
| 17:27.51 | Tartarus | What perl version? |
| 17:27.56 | JaMa|Wrk | on host? |
| 17:27.58 | Tartarus | Yeah |
| 17:28.10 | Tartarus | And do you possibly have some other overlays going on or something? |
| 17:28.16 | JaMa|Wrk | 5.12.3 |
| 17:28.30 | Tartarus | what machine? |
| 17:28.33 | Tartarus | (target MACHINE) |
| 17:28.35 | JaMa|Wrk | x86_64 |
| 17:28.38 | JaMa|Wrk | and om-gta02 |
| 17:28.43 | JaMa|Wrk | but it's from -native |
| 17:28.43 | Tartarus | ok |
| 17:28.46 | Tartarus | Yeah, I know |
| 17:28.48 | JaMa|Wrk | so target shouldn't matter |
| 17:28.50 | Tartarus | But I can't reproduce this |
| 17:29.03 | Tartarus | I wonder if /OE/whatever is magicially a bad path? |
| 17:29.04 | JaMa|Wrk | on second host with std TMPDIR I also doesn't have it |
| 17:29.29 | JaMa|Wrk | I'll wrap those sed calls to see what it is trying to replace |
| 17:30.06 | Tartarus | And I'll get a /OE locally |
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| 17:45.04 | GNUtoo-n900 | hi ericben |
| 17:45.44 | Tartarus | JaMa|Wrk, can you pastebin || email me your local.conf? |
| 17:46.06 | Tartarus | $ ls /OE/mytmpdir/work/x86_64-linux/libxml-parser-perl-native-2.36-r4/ |
| 17:46.06 | Tartarus | XML-Parser-2.36 image temp |
| 17:46.32 | GNUtoo-n900 | JaMa|Wrk, I'll try to push ubifs patches for n900 |
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| 17:47.51 | GNUtoo-n900 | ericben , you take the train to go to fosdem,right? |
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| 17:53.34 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331726/ |
| 17:54.03 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: and it's not libxml-parser-perl-native fault (as it sources config.sh badly prepared by perl-native) |
| 17:54.20 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: after partial revert I in perl-native I can build libxml-parser-perl-native fine again |
| 17:55.08 | JaMa|Wrk | but somehow my "echo" calls in Configure script are ignored.. more tee should help me (real tee :)) |
| 17:55.39 | Tartarus | JaMa|Wrk, right, but building libxml-parser-perl-native would show a busted image directory |
| 17:55.48 | Tartarus | So I'll try your local.conf in a minute |
| 17:55.56 | Tartarus | (doing a full build rather than just -c install now) |
| 17:56.52 | JaMa|Wrk | populate_sysroot was failing in libxml-parser-perl-native |
| 17:56.58 | Tartarus | right |
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| 18:10.03 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: found it http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331730/ every path with 4th character '/' will be broken... |
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| 18:11.38 | Tartarus | I hate perl so much |
| 18:11.42 | Tartarus | good job! |
| 18:11.56 | JaMa|Wrk | not sure about proper fix |
| 18:12.33 | eFfeM | gm all |
| 18:13.22 | Tartarus | Well, we can either fix userelocatableinc or go the poky wrapper script way |
| 18:13.37 | Tartarus | I'm leaning towards the latter given perl is also broken with userelocatbaleinc and 5.12.x |
| 18:13.51 | Tartarus | and poky has 5.12.x and updated to not have legacy staging (which I tried doing to 5.10 last night and it sucked) |
| 18:14.19 | JaMa|Wrk | I don't use perl on target.. so no opinion on that, do whatever is better/easier for you |
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| 18:14.44 | woglinde_ | hi gnutoo |
| 18:15.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi woglinde_ |
| 18:15.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | are you going to the FOSDEM? |
| 18:16.41 | woglinde_ | no |
| 18:17.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | it seem that there are not a lot of people going to it this year |
| 18:17.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | fortunately the talks are good |
| 18:17.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | eben moglen, teleco village, etc... |
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| 18:20.01 | woglinde_ | I have to learn for oral exams |
| 18:20.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 18:20.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've exams too after fosdem |
| 18:20.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | but the italian system permit me to go to the fosdem: |
| 18:21.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | if I fail at the one right after fosdem there is another one |
| 18:21.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | if I fail to the other one there is another one later.... |
| 18:21.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | etc... |
| 18:21.23 | woglinde_ | sure |
| 18:21.29 | woglinde_ | but they are my 3 last one |
| 18:21.54 | woglinde_ | and I dont want to fail the first try |
| 18:22.16 | woglinde_ | but I will go to cebit |
| 18:22.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 18:22.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | btw is it possible to donate to openembedded with a specific goal in mind, giving a specific machine to a specific developer |
| 18:22.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | the developer has commit access |
| 18:23.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/mind,/mind:/ |
| 18:23.39 | Tartarus | I think so, but a question for the eV? |
| 18:23.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe I'll ask at the fosdem |
| 18:24.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | because I'd like morphis to get a nokia n900 to help on modem |
| 18:26.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | wow lots of buglabs recipes landed in oe |
| 18:28.39 | woglinde_ | gnutoo yes stefan does it |
| 18:28.46 | woglinde_ | ah crofton is landed |
| 18:28.48 | woglinde_ | see it now |
| 18:29.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 18:29.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | I landed today too but I'm not in belguim yet |
| 18:29.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'm in france currently |
| 18:29.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | *Belgium *France |
| 18:30.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | woglinde_, btw do you have a bug 2.0 at work? |
| 18:30.27 | woglinde_ | no |
| 18:30.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 18:30.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | I wanted to know how good it was |
| 18:32.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 18:32.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | | Checking for C++ library boost_signals-mt... no |
| 18:32.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | pingus |
| 18:32.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'm not sure it's worth to fix because it has a memory leak |
| 18:32.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | (pingus) |
| 18:32.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe I should spend some time to track that memory leak |
| 18:33.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | is there a quick way to do that? |
| 18:33.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | on arm |
| 18:33.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | valingrid arm support has landed upstream? |
| 18:33.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | I remember vaguely some announcement on their website |
| 18:33.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | I know using it slows down the execution |
| 18:34.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | but does it increase memory usage drastically? |
| 18:34.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | because I've only 256M on my best machine |
| 18:34.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | *target machine |
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| 18:37.25 | woglinde_ | kergoth ping |
| 18:38.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok seem easy to fix |
| 18:38.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll try to remove the mt |
| 18:39.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | which is for multithread if I remember well |
| 18:39.17 | kergoth | woglinde_: pong |
| 18:40.19 | woglinde_ | kergoth hm could please take a look into the jikes_1.22.bb |
| 18:40.53 | woglinde_ | seems they RDENDS in it influences the native recipe too |
| 18:41.25 | woglinde_ | ah okay |
| 18:41.29 | woglinde_ | first bug fixed |
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| 18:41.58 | kergoth | woglinde_: ${PN} versions of things end up obeyed even if PACKAGES is empty right now |
| 18:42.14 | kergoth | woglinde_: which means those can affect native/cross unless you use virtclass overrides to blow it away |
| 18:42.17 | kergoth | for now, anyway |
| 18:42.18 | kergoth | (afaik) |
| 18:42.26 | kergoth | runtime bits for native/cross is a bit of a mess atm |
| 18:42.36 | woglinde_ | yes I changed it to _PN_virt |
| 18:42.39 | woglinde_ | and its gone |
| 18:42.45 | kergoth | might be good if the classes also adjusted the names of the rdepends the way it does for the depends |
| 18:42.51 | kergoth | though thats slightly more complex |
| 18:42.56 | kergoth | (due to -dev, etc postfixes) |
| 18:45.50 | ka6sox | at this point (almost a year later) do we need the openembedded.org/snapshots ? |
| 18:47.28 | kergoth | doubts it, but shrugs |
| 18:48.00 | woglinde_ | why the hell help2man-native depends on perl? |
| 18:48.23 | kergoth | should dep on perl-native i'd think |
| 18:48.56 | woglinde_ | ah another RDEPENDS |
| 18:50.28 | woglinde_ | so looks good now |
| 18:50.49 | kergoth | auditing the .dot's a bit? i've done that a bit in the past, its a mess :\ |
| 18:51.03 | woglinde_ | hehe |
| 18:51.11 | woglinde_ | with pn- its easy |
| 18:51.56 | woglinde_ | and I am now familiar with what to look for |
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| 18:52.57 | kergoth | the native runtime problem needs a real solution at some point, but not sure what the right answer is |
| 18:54.39 | woglinde_ | I will commit it later |
| 18:55.14 | kergoth | i can't remember why _${PN} is handled specially |
| 18:55.27 | kergoth | there's a couple loops in bitbake that do packages + [pn] |
| 18:55.27 | woglinde_ | dont know either |
| 18:55.33 | kergoth | which seems strange |
| 18:55.43 | woglinde_ | but adding _virtclass = "" helps |
| 18:55.47 | kergoth | nods |
| 18:56.00 | kergoth | this should be an faq or something |
| 18:56.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:58.26 | CIA-2 | 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4c82344174 10openembedded.git/recipes/perl/perl-native_5.10.1.bb: |
| 18:58.26 | CIA-2 | perl-native: Switch to using create_wrapper to make perl relocatable. |
| 18:58.26 | CIA-2 | This is taken from poky. In addition to problems in upstream |
| 18:58.26 | CIA-2 | perl 5.12.x, Martin Jansa discovered that the regex perl uses during |
| 18:58.26 | CIA-2 | install is broken for things like /OE/whatever (due to not escapipng the |
| 18:58.27 | CIA-2 | periods in the regex perl uses). |
| 18:58.28 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
| 18:58.37 | CIA-2 | 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2ba8864662 10openembedded.git/recipes/perl/perl_5.10.1.bb: |
| 18:58.37 | CIA-2 | perl: Make this not be MACHINE-specific in pstaging+signatures |
| 18:58.37 | CIA-2 | Based on d332f1881f362cef88f2b9f40186482ac612c2d0 and |
| 18:58.37 | CIA-2 | b02a4addca8a4727767e24953b98f30399e3592b in poky. |
| 18:58.37 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> |
| 19:00.00 | Tartarus | JaMa|Wrk, confirmed that those changes still work on my slow laptop, pulling and building on my faster box w/ /OE/mystuff being used for TMPDIR now |
| 19:01.11 | woglinde_ | tartarus didnt you made some patches to help3man? |
| 19:01.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | can I add that in mkfs.ubifs args "-x zlib" |
| 19:01.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | JaMa|Wrk, ^^^ |
| 19:01.36 | Tartarus | woglinde_, yes |
| 19:01.52 | Tartarus | Making it happier about using our perl-native |
| 19:01.55 | Tartarus | What's broken now? |
| 19:02.30 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: thanks.. trying |
| 19:02.49 | JaMa|Wrk | GNUtoo|laptop: I guess so |
| 19:03.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:03.13 | JaMa|Wrk | GNUtoo|laptop: iirc I've used exactly that when trying different comp alg ratio |
| 19:03.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:03.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I hadrdcode it |
| 19:03.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | *hardcode |
| 19:06.14 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: configured and config.sh looks sane now |
| 19:10.20 | Tartarus | NOTE: package libxml-parser-perl-native-2.36-r4: task do_populate_sysroot: Succeeded |
| 19:10.21 | Tartarus | NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 108 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed. |
| 19:10.22 | Tartarus | too :) |
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| 19:21.54 | Jay7 | Tartarus: I have seen one perl hater on #yocto as well |
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| 19:22.06 | Jay7 | so, you may hate it together :) |
| 19:22.32 | Tartarus | fray? :) |
| 19:22.37 | fray | yes? |
| 19:22.40 | Jay7 | may be :) |
| 19:22.40 | Tartarus | known him since the 90s :) |
| 19:22.44 | ka6sox | Perl, how to make something so obscure that even the author can't maintain it. |
| 19:22.47 | Jay7 | can't remember :) |
| 19:23.01 | fray | I've hated perl with a passion since early 2000's.. when I had to cross compile it for the first time |
| 19:23.17 | fray | I only had mild hatred in the mid/late 90's |
| 19:23.20 | Jay7 | btw, is python better for cross-compiling? |
| 19:23.25 | fray | much much better |
| 19:23.30 | ka6sox | ya, |
| 19:23.34 | Jay7 | hm.. |
| 19:23.38 | ka6sox | on the slug we had to build perl native |
| 19:23.42 | ka6sox | it was a mess |
| 19:23.47 | fray | I think everything that was done to perl was to make it as difficult as possible to cross comile |
| 19:24.00 | ka6sox | the test suite kills it from building cross |
| 19:24.04 | ka6sox | (or did anyways) |
| 19:25.22 | fray | it's configure.. going from ia32 to mips.. it picks up all of the signals and system configuration information on the IA32 host.. |
| 19:25.29 | fray | you then cross compile, and if you are lucky you get a inary.. |
| 19:25.40 | ka6sox | eww |
| 19:25.44 | fray | which then proceeds not to work, because system capabilities and signal definitions are all COMPLETELY BROKEN |
| 19:26.08 | fray | I'm no fan of the GNU autotools, but good lord, they already solved this problem.. perl has taken the approach of screw everyone.. |
| 19:26.25 | ka6sox | Tartarus, is meta- stable enough to mirror? |
| 19:26.42 | Jin^eLD | fray: try cmake, after that you become a huge fan of GNU autotools ;> |
| 19:26.50 | Jin^eLD | cmake is definetely on my shitlist :> |
| 19:27.10 | Tartarus | ka6sox, a question for Koen primarily, since he's the biggest worker atm |
| 19:27.13 | Tartarus | and he's at FOSDEM |
| 19:27.19 | Tartarus | We could always add it later, too |
| 19:27.31 | ka6sox | Tartarus, true |
| 19:27.36 | fray | Jin^eLD hahah ya, cmake is pretty bad |
| 19:27.37 | ka6sox | okay so I'm setting this up as RO |
| 19:28.04 | fray | I dunno perl just burned me so many times that the hatred burns strong.. ALMOST as bad as the hatred of Solaris.. |
| 19:28.38 | fray | I'm sure Tartarus can tell you stories of me getting enough GNU components built on solaris to create an environment to cross compile Linux binaries in.. and the house of pain it took to do it, and then maintain it.. |
| 19:28.59 | fray | you'd thing (this was back in 2002 or so) that in this day Sun could at LEAST use a POSIX /bin/sh |
| 19:29.46 | Jin^eLD | :)) |
| 19:33.12 | fray | Tartarus is stiring up bad and painful memory from my previous employment.. ;) |
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| 19:34.15 | ka6sox | Tartarus, I don't see a way for github to pull so I'll work up a post-commit hook for git.oe.org to push up changes. |
| 19:35.00 | ka6sox | and we will need something similar for bitbake. |
| 19:35.51 | Tartarus | ka6sox, Well, maybe they just cron a pull every N hours? |
| 19:36.26 | ka6sox | on github can't do that... |
| 19:36.27 | Tartarus | I was gonna follow up and see what's next, heh |
| 19:36.39 | Tartarus | Well, maybe the mirror staff can? |
| 19:36.51 | ka6sox | ya, I will contact them about this |
| 19:36.57 | Tartarus | k |
| 19:37.36 | ka6sox | I thought the purpose was to have it sync'd pretty close so that .eu could pull out of github but push back to OE directly |
| 19:38.52 | JaMa|Wrk | Tartarus: libxml-parser-perl-native also rebuilt here now just fine, thanks again |
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| 19:43.18 | Jay7 | fray: seems I'll repeat your Solaris experience but with FreeBSD.. |
| 19:43.26 | fray | hahah |
| 19:43.41 | fray | oddly enough passed a car on the highway the other day with "FreeBSD" (MN) plates.. |
| 19:44.09 | fray | the guy looked early 20's late teens.. (Mazda 3 wagon)... |
| 19:44.22 | fray | not what I was expecting.. was thinking more someone who looked like Stallman would be driving.. ;) |
| 19:45.46 | ka6sox | Tartarus, I see how to do it pretty easily...I can make it a post-commit hook on oe's git. |
| 19:46.29 | Tartarus | yeah |
| 19:47.15 | ka6sox | github becomes a push-mirror so the primary needs to push up changes. |
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| 19:48.29 | CIA-2 | nokia900.conf: added ubifs arguments |
| 19:48.29 | CIA-2 | Thanks JaMa on #openmoko-cdevel on Freenode on irc for help on the sub-pages: |
| 19:48.29 | CIA-2 | Feb 02 11:41:58 <JaMa|Wrk> GNUtoo|laptop: also for gta02 I had to sacrifise sub-pages, -s same as -m otherwise it always failed |
| 19:48.29 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@no-log.org> |
| 19:48.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | github? |
| 19:48.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | why not gitorious too? |
| 19:49.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | at least gitorious publish its source code, I think github doesn't |
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| 19:53.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | ka6sox, hi, what about gitorious? |
| 19:53.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | gitorious seem better than github |
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| 19:54.14 | Tartarus | GNUtoo|laptop, someone needs to see about doing it |
| 19:54.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:54.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | but we will stay on openembedded.org? |
| 19:54.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | or will we move at the end |
| 19:54.39 | ka6sox | I can do it but I just need focused direction. |
| 19:54.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:54.49 | ka6sox | GNUtoo|laptop, what I'm doing is setting up a mirror |
| 19:54.51 | ka6sox | RO |
| 19:54.56 | ka6sox | so master is still ours |
| 19:55.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | my concern is rather that I don't like to depend on a service that we have no control over |
| 19:55.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:55.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | but in the future |
| 19:55.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | are there any plans to move? |
| 19:55.27 | ka6sox | GNUtoo|laptop, dunno |
| 19:55.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | because it could start with a mirror |
| 19:55.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | and at the end we could end up on beeing on github |
| 19:55.52 | ka6sox | right now all I know is that we need better service for pulls into .eu |
| 19:55.59 | Tartarus | It's just a mirror |
| 19:56.05 | Tartarus | since there's 20 clones on github atm |
| 19:56.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 19:56.09 | Tartarus | and another bunch on gitoriousis |
| 19:56.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | then go on |
| 19:56.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | JaMa|Wrk, uses gitorious for instance |
| 19:56.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I use only the main mirror |
| 19:56.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | s/mirror/repo |
| 19:57.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I won't object for github or gitorious |
| 19:57.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | it was just to know where we were going |
| 19:57.23 | ka6sox | GNUtoo|laptop, if we get them synced up we should be able to make it so that you pull from github and only go to git.oe.org to push |
| 19:57.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok nice |
| 19:59.29 | JaMa|Wrk | I'm using it only, because there already was angstrom mirror and gitorious allows fast clone from existing projects |
| 19:59.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 20:00.01 | JaMa|Wrk | but I can move my branch to github too |
| 20:00.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | or oe could come to gitorious too if it's not too much work |
| 20:00.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | thanks ka6sox for your work |
| 20:01.33 | woglinde_ | re |
| 20:01.36 | Crofton | I think the point is to make it is easier for github/gitorious to support people with OE repos on them |
| 20:01.38 | woglinde_ | re crofton |
| 20:01.43 | Crofton | hi woglinde_ |
| 20:03.06 | woglinde_ | crofton how was the flight? |
| 20:04.08 | Crofton | good |
| 20:04.14 | ka6sox | Crofton so do we want a mirror on gitorious too? |
| 20:04.17 | Crofton | plenty of space on the plane |
| 20:04.27 | Crofton | ka6sox, if it is easy |
| 20:04.31 | ka6sox | kk |
| 20:04.36 | Crofton | and assuming we have people using the service |
| 20:05.47 | ka6sox | yes |
| 20:05.48 | ka6sox | we do |
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| 20:05.57 | ka6sox | okay I just setup a new user for us there. |
| 20:06.06 | ka6sox | and will work on adding that hook too. |
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| 20:16.10 | CIA-2 | 03Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4d1320406f 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: |
| 20:16.10 | CIA-2 | minimal.conf: removed pinning of perl 5.10.1 now it has become the default |
| 20:16.10 | CIA-2 | as discussed with and agreed by Mickey. |
| 20:16.10 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> |
| 20:19.51 | petrvlasic | Wow. recipes/images/initramfs-minimal-image.bb as target and 1415 packages (or steps?) and few GB of space. Doesn't exist something _more_ minimalistic? |
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| 20:21.18 | dm8tbr | less than an initramfs? |
| 20:21.36 | petrvlasic | less than 1415 packages |
| 20:23.05 | dm8tbr | that's steps IIRC |
| 20:24.05 | dm8tbr | at least in my case I think I didn't get lower than 900 or 1200 when building the initramfs with a clean slate |
| 20:24.10 | woglinde | each package has diffrent stages |
| 20:24.16 | dm8tbr | the toolchains etc take up the most in this case |
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| 20:24.29 | woglinde | yes complete toolchain is build |
| 20:24.41 | woglinde | you could speed it up with an external toolchain |
| 20:24.48 | woglinde | but thats not really recommended |
| 20:26.22 | petrvlasic | dm8tbr: Ok, then steps. I just need some cross-compile environment, uClibc, busybox and one specific package. 5 or 6 steps? Even kernel I've got my own. |
| 20:27.00 | dm8tbr | you can make bitbake show you what it's going to do |
| 20:27.10 | dm8tbr | that could help you to understand |
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| 20:29.53 | petrvlasic | dm8tbr: Yup, openssl, mtd-utils, squashfs-tools-native, usw. Doesn't sounds too minimal to me. |
| 20:29.55 | kergoth | petrvlasic: 1415 tasks, not packages. every recipe has 5+, for fetch/unpack/patch/etc. and it has to build some build machine tools since we can't rely on everyone having everything |
| 20:36.46 | kergoth | (e.g. squashfs-tools-native to be able to construct a squashfs filesystem) |
| 20:36.56 | petrvlasic | kergoth: Ok, but more than 10GB for minimal build? I don't rather want to know how maximal build looks like. |
| 20:37.21 | dm8tbr | it doesn't get much much more |
| 20:37.31 | petrvlasic | dm8tbr: Perfect :-) |
| 20:37.55 | dm8tbr | for my archos devices the whole directory never exceeded 20GB IIRC |
| 20:38.04 | ka6sox | kergoth, where is bitbake's master repo? |
| 20:38.11 | ka6sox | (where is it housed) |
| 20:38.15 | kergoth | ka6sox: git.openembedded.org |
| 20:38.16 | kergoth | where else? |
| 20:38.23 | woglinde | petrvlasic you can inherit rm_work so the sources will be deleted after compiling |
| 20:38.27 | ka6sox | oh...sorry |
| 20:38.29 | ka6sox | nm |
| 20:38.37 | woglinde | but adds some taks |
| 20:38.43 | ka6sox | okay I'll add the hooks there too. |
| 20:38.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:39.01 | petrvlasic | kergoth: I don't want squashfs. In initramfs? For what? |
| 20:39.14 | kergoth | petrvlasic: run bitbake -g and see what's pulling it in |
| 20:39.28 | kergoth | -g generates .dot files for graphviz, so you can see what pulls in what |
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| 20:40.17 | petrvlasic | kergoth: No more. Last time, Graphviz froze to death. |
| 20:40.30 | kergoth | I don't use graphviz personally, i just edit the .dot files ;) |
| 20:40.33 | kergoth | its just text |
| 20:40.44 | kergoth | but its still a decent way to inspect the dependency graph |
| 20:40.46 | petrvlasic | kergoth: I know :-) |
| 20:40.54 | kergoth | if you're using master, you can also use bitbake -u depexp |
| 20:40.59 | kergoth | but its pretty basic |
| 20:41.04 | kergoth | s/master/bitbake master/ |
| 20:41.32 | petrvlasic | kergoth: Just to illustrate. |
| 20:41.58 | petrvlasic | kergoth: Ok, thanks much. |
| 20:42.12 | kergoth | everything is pulled in for a reason. if you're not happy with what initramfs-minimal does, copy it and modify it to only include what you want |
| 20:42.19 | kergoth | i'd suggest doing taht |
| 20:42.22 | kergoth | blah, can't type |
| 20:42.51 | kergoth | i agree we need to do some house cleaning, some things need to be made optional in the dependency graph, and there are some cases where deps exist accidentally, not intentionally |
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| 20:46.58 | woglinde | hm as I said help2man drags in perl |
| 20:47.07 | woglinde | ups help2man-native |
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| 20:49.58 | filip | hi guys, any quick suggestions about: Perl lib version (5.10.1) doesn't match executable version (v5.10.0) at /home/builds/jornada7xx/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib/perl/5.10.1/Config.pm line 50. ? |
| 20:50.08 | filip | I've started with a clean build from a recent git pull |
| 20:51.59 | woglinde | filip hm no |
| 20:52.12 | woglinde | maybe jama or tartarus knows |
| 20:52.32 | filip | it seems like it's using hosts' perl |
| 20:53.14 | woglinde | hm could be tartarus was complaining about something |
| 20:53.24 | woglinde | but I think it was 5.12 perl |
| 20:54.05 | filip | the gnu-configize script starts with: #! /usr/bin/perl -w |
| 20:54.45 | filip | should it be altered with /usr/bin/env perl -w? |
| 20:54.59 | filip | or oe has some nice hack for absolute paths in shebangs? |
| 20:55.11 | woglinde | hm I though it was checked in already |
| 20:55.11 | Tartarus | Just /usr/bin/env perl |
| 20:55.13 | Tartarus | drop the -w |
| 20:55.32 | filip | so somebody has fixed it already? |
| 20:55.46 | Tartarus | Maybe... |
| 20:55.51 | Tartarus | What's the last commit in your tree? |
| 20:56.22 | filip | 08d47fa786ee535345118a2680d64b5e1ccd97a3 from Thu Feb 3 20:42:59 2011 +0100 |
| 20:56.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 20:56.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | I had this problem with pingus |
| 20:56.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | there is a patch switching to -mt version of boost |
| 20:57.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | if I drop it it works fine |
| 20:57.14 | woglinde | gnutoo hm |
| 20:58.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | woglinde, and it was you that added that patch according to git log |
| 20:58.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically for SHR |
| 20:58.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | on nokia900 |
| 20:58.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | in my sysroot |
| 20:58.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | the libs are not -mt |
| 20:58.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe because of newer boost |
| 20:58.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | I don't know enough the mt/non-mt distro coverage |
| 20:58.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | so I don't know what to do |
| 20:58.47 | filip | Tartarus: are you about to push the fix maybe? |
| 20:59.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll look into boost recipes |
| 21:00.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | boost 1.45 with bjam seem to use mt |
| 21:00.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll doubble check |
| 21:01.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah no it's only for threads |
| 21:01.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | not for signal |
| 21:01.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | and pingus depend on sigals right? |
| 21:02.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | ouch there is a do_stage |
| 21:02.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | wikipedia says lastest release is 1.45 |
| 21:03.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | 2 month ago |
| 21:03.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | so why is there a do_stage |
| 21:03.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | git blame |
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| 21:03.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm it's khem....strnage |
| 21:03.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | *strange |
| 21:04.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | as far as I understood we should not use do_stage but maybe this bjam is special? |
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| 21:04.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | nevertheless it's so great to have a recent boost |
| 21:06.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | (Author: Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com> but Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> ) |
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| 21:16.49 | denix0 | Tartarus: do you want to ack the patch for insane.bbclass? |
| 21:16.55 | woglinde | ah denix |
| 21:18.16 | woglinde | okay |
| 21:18.19 | woglinde | its now typo |
| 21:19.50 | denix0 | woglinde: btw, did you have a question? |
| 21:20.29 | filip | whoa, eval 'case $# in 0) exec /usr/bin/perl -S "$0";; *) exec /usr/bin/perl -S "$0" "$@";; esac' |
| 21:20.32 | filip | what is THIS? |
| 21:22.02 | woglinde | denix nope I tought there was a spelling error in your last commit from chase |
| 21:22.04 | woglinde | but it isnt |
| 21:22.49 | denix0 | ok |
| 21:23.35 | denix0 | sourceipk is quite novel and not many use it, so it was safe to push it anyway... |
| 21:24.01 | woglinde | no kernelones |
| 21:24.10 | woglinde | with mulitple targets |
| 21:26.15 | chase | woglinde: so was there a spelling error in my patch? |
| 21:26.23 | woglinde | no |
| 21:26.27 | woglinde | I thought there was |
| 21:26.31 | woglinde | but isnt |
| 21:26.35 | chase | OK |
| 21:26.43 | chase | just wanted to make sure I didn't mess something up :) |
| 21:26.49 | woglinde | scripk |
| 21:26.58 | woglinde | looks strange |
| 21:30.52 | denix0 | quite strange :) |
| 21:31.03 | denix0 | kinda like .src.rpm :) |
| 21:31.39 | woglinde | note script |
| 21:31.49 | woglinde | looks really similiar |
| 21:34.32 | CIA-2 | 03Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf06b04c2b5 10openembedded.git/recipes/help2man/help2man_1.38.2.bb: help2man: fix drag in of target perl for the native package |
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| 21:56.34 | woglinde | good nite |
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| 23:14.10 | ka6sox | anyone know how big the Angstrom-distribution package repo is? |
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| 23:30.39 | Jay7 | ka6sox: XorA|gone or Koen should know :) |
| 23:31.17 | ka6sox | Jay7, Koen told me where to find out. |
| 23:32.40 | Jay7 | wow, Koen is talking with you! You are choosen! ;) |
| 23:32.46 | Jay7 | hides |
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