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00:25.42woglindehm I am really puzzeld
00:25.47woglindein the libsdl svn
00:26.01woglindeis a new .m4 macro which first uses pkg-config
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00:27.15woglindehm okay
00:27.26woglindecame out after the .14 release
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01:12.27woglindecronfton pull and try
01:12.29CIA-5503Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r54fd635924 10openembedded.git/recipes/gnome/gnome-games_2.24.0.bb:
01:12.29CIA-55gnome-games: set libsdl-mixer as dependency and delete sdl.m4 macro only when exist
01:12.29CIA-55* bump PR
01:12.30CIA-5503Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra41265d883 10openembedded.git/recipes/libsdl/ (libsdl-x11-1.2.14/sdl.m4 libsdl-x11_1.2.14.bb):
01:12.30CIA-55libsdl-x11: use newer sdl.m4 macro from svn
01:12.34CIA-55* the sdl.m4 macro now uses pkgconfig which unbreaks gnome-games
01:12.36CIA-55build
01:12.38CIA-55* bump PR
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01:47.44Crofton_|workwoglinde, thanks, that seems to have solved the problem
01:48.33woglindefine
01:48.48woglindeI earlier thought that .14 sdl has the newer m4 macro already
01:53.19Crofton_|workah
01:53.31Crofton_|workgood fix
01:53.46Crofton_|workmuch better than the usual seding around :)
01:54.27woglindeyeah I was to lazy to patch the macro file
01:54.47woglindeokay good nite
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04:57.29leslieHi, i can't find libdri.so and libglx.so in xorg directory, so, what should i build to have them appear?
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05:58.53nhgcan anyone please tell me if I can use makefiles to build in Angstrom instead of bitbake recipes?
05:59.05nhgif I can somehow embed my "rather large" makefile in a bitbake recipe that would work as well.
06:05.43grgnhg, surely you can invoke your makefile from a bitbake recipe
06:06.22nhggrg: are there any examples/docs you can point me to?
06:06.36nhgI'm new to OE
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06:07.54grgnhg, start here http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/html/
06:09.00grgyou'll probably want something like 'do_compile() { oe_make }' in your recipe
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06:15.41nhgthanks...then how would the .bb recipe know where my make files is?  I assume I have to add it somewhere in the .bb as well?
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06:24.05grgnhg, i suggest you keep reading the user manual. chapter 8 should help out.
06:24.43grgother recipe files that are lying around might help out too
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06:32.14nhghaven't found any so far with references to make files....I'll keep digging.  thanks.
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08:24.40mckoangood morning
08:29.09ynezzhrw|gone: ping, you've pushed it to temp branch, not to dev :) http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2010-January/041115.html
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08:34.38mckoanhow can I enable x11 font 9x15 ?
08:34.53CIA-5503Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2bcf50bbf1 10openembedded.git/recipes/cherokee/cherokee_0.99.24.bb: (log message trimmed)
08:34.53CIA-55cherokee_0.99.24.bb: Add missing DEPENDS
08:34.53CIA-55* 0.99 version uses openssl and there is no option to have gnutls
08:34.53CIA-55so we configure it to use openssl.
08:34.53CIA-55* Add DEPENDS which were
08:34.55CIA-55missing and override the default depends coming from cherokee.inc
08:34.59CIA-55as it has gnutls in depends and would build this redundantly.
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09:08.05CIA-5503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r680760be3a 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/gnome/libbonobo_2.24.1.bb): libbonobo: update to 2.24.2 (automake 1.11.x fixes)
09:08.16CIA-5503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdfc707b840 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/gnome/gnome-keyring_2.28.0.bb): gnome-keyring 2.28: update to 2.28.2
09:08.17CIA-5503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra353f4ee72 10openembedded.git/recipes/rygel/rygel_0.4.8.bb: rygel: add hack to get rid of automake 1.11.x dependency
09:08.57JaMa|Offwhat's difference between libpixman and xorg-lib/pixman, libpixman looks the same as recipe (just older versions)
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09:12.42hrw|goneshit
09:13.02hrwmorning
09:13.04JaMa|Offmoin
09:13.18hrwmckoan: xfonts-misc?
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09:15.20mckoanhrw: thx I'll try
09:18.33mckoanhrw: there is any xfonts-misc in recipes
09:20.23hrwso build all fonts and check which one you need?
09:20.29CIA-5503Petr Å tetiar <ynezz@true.cz> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf6c05a045d 10openembedded.git/recipes/xinput-calibrator/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
09:20.29CIA-55xinput_calibrator: switch to autotools
09:20.29CIA-55Signed-off-by: Petr Å tetiar <ynezz@true.cz>
09:20.29CIA-55Acked-by: Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@juszkiewicz.com.pl>
09:20.33hrwit is 10-15 minutes of build machine time
09:22.56mckoanhrw: do you mean recipes/xorg-font/xfonts-xorg_6.8.bb ? and how do i get them in the final image?
09:23.40hrwmckoan: you are using OE for over year and still did not know how to alter image contents?
09:25.29mckoanhrw: the problem is to alter image contents in a OE community accetable way
09:25.51mckoanhrw: BTW I thought that was a 10" answer, thanks anyway
09:27.11hrwmckoan: building all fonts takes 10 minutes. then you need to check which pacakge has needed one and install it on device to check does it work
09:27.20hrwunless you reflash device each time with new image
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09:48.41hrwhi mickey|munich
09:48.49mickey|munichmorning hrw
09:49.02hrwmickey|munich: remove 'temp' branch from git server please
09:50.13mickey|munichdone
09:50.27mickey|munichlaibsch/scim was scheduled for removal as well ,right?
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09:55.10mickey|munich~curse libnl
09:55.11ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, libnl !
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09:55.50hrwno idea
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10:03.06ruudhello
10:07.23floriangood morning
10:07.45ruudAgood morning :)
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10:08.23ruudAI'm trying to build an image with two extra tasks (to do it a bit modular), is there any documentation on that?
10:08.48ruudAbecause right now I'm not sure what I _need_ to define in the image and task(s) files
10:09.26ruudAhmmz, that sorted the qte problems sort of :/
10:13.38ruudAto be more specific: I need gstreamer stuff (that works) and qte stuff (doesn't work)
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10:14.44hrwlrg: hi
10:15.22lrgmorning hrw
10:15.42ruudAwhen I have RDEPENDS_${PN} = "qt4-embedded", I get an error there aren't any buildable dependencies and:
10:15.46ruudANOTE: Runtime target 'qt4-embedded-gles' is unbuildable, removing...
10:15.48ruudAMissing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['qt4-embedded-gles', 'virtual/egl']
10:15.51ruudAERROR: Required build target 'proes-image' has no buildable providers.
10:15.53ruudAMissing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['proes-image', 'task-proes-qte', 'qt4-embedded-gles', 'virtual/egl']
10:22.17hrwlrg: did you made something with your nhk15?
10:26.06lrghrw: not yet, just been doing general stuff atm
10:29.36hrwok
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10:31.53CIA-5503Marcin Juszkiewicz <marcin@buglabs.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc4408fc35e 10openembedded.git/classes/qt3e.bbclass:
10:31.53CIA-55qt3e.bbclass: fix paths for staging
10:31.53CIA-55Without that patch uicmoc3-native fails to build.
10:32.04CIA-5503Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1b426b8382 10openembedded.git/classes/sanity.bbclass: (log message trimmed)
10:32.04CIA-55sanity.bbclass: handle lack of permission to read /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
10:32.04CIA-55* With 2.6.33-rc2-00252-ge9e5521 on my host I noticed that
10:32.04CIA-55"cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr" returns now
10:32.06CIA-55"cat: /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr: Operation not permitted"
10:32.08CIA-55Its probably becuse of
10:32.10CIA-55http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0e1a6ef2dea88101b056b6d9984f3325c5efced3
10:33.34hrwI got tired of keeping those two in own repo
10:34.20JaMa|Offhrw: thanks :)
10:35.54hrwJaMa|Off: this is simpler version of first your one
10:37.51JaMa|Offhrw: seen that on ML.. I don't need that warning too..  (and I have 0 in that sysfs node already..)
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11:03.05mckoanis trying to use patchwork (http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Patchwork)
11:04.38mckoananubody use patchwork system with 2 PC? one where to browse http://patchwork.openembedded.org and one where develop OE connected with SSH
11:05.25mckoanI wonder if is possible to wget a mbox from http://patchwork.openembedded.org directly into the development machine
11:05.54pb_mckoan: I think there's a script for that in contrib/patchwork/
11:06.10mckoanpb_: ahhhhhh I remember now, sorry
11:06.59mckoancontrib/patchwork/pw-am.sh
11:07.05hrwyep
11:07.25hrwyou give it IDs of patches and it fetch/git-am each
11:07.48mckoanhrw: exactly what I needed
11:08.07hrwnot only you :)
11:08.20hrwKoen wrote first ver, I improved it for multipatches
11:08.24mckoanI'll try with patch 1401
11:09.43mckoanlooks not so smooth
11:11.08mckoanhttp://pastebin.com/m22eb6ed is it normal to get these messages?
11:11.49mckoanshouldn't I see any file added to OE if I do git status ?
11:12.10pb_no, I think it commits the changes for you.  try git log.
11:12.25hrwmckoan: it does 'git am'
11:13.13brooniemckoan: the trailing whitespace errors mean that the patch adds trailing whitespace to some lies.
11:15.47mckoanpb_: hmmm interesting :-D
11:16.15brooniethe patch will still be applied, it's just complaining.
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11:31.58sgh_Hi ..... do you know how Xorg detects mouse and keyboard?.... I have an image where the keyboard in the console works fine, but Xorg does not detect it.
11:33.29hrwby hal
11:35.06sgh_hrw: ok ... will check hal presence.
11:40.39sgh_hrw: hal-device does not list any mice .... do you think I need something ? The kernels detects the mouse in the log, so it is not a kernel-driver that is missing.
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11:58.57CIA-5503Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r33d74d678b 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
11:58.57CIA-55linux-openmoko-2.6.32: bump SRCREV for suspend/resume fix, enable MMC_UNSAFE_RESUME
11:58.57CIA-55Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
12:00.57mickey|ICE628ah
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12:03.18CIA-5503Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4750e2e563 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini:
12:03.18CIA-55checksums.ini: add checksums for upcomming xorg upgrades
12:03.18CIA-55Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
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12:10.24CIA-5503Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc0002bd2f7 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:10.24CIA-55stopwatch: new recipe for QT4 based stopwatch
12:10.24CIA-55* Author: Christof Musik
12:10.24CIA-55* can be used as stop watch
12:10.24CIA-55* has countdown capability (e.g. for next holiday)
12:10.26CIA-55* survives suspend/resume
12:10.28CIA-55Signed-off-by: Christian Rüb <christian.rueb@gmx.net>
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12:55.31th1what's the idea with MACHINE_KERNEL_PR and how does it apply to modules built out-of-tree?
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13:04.46CIA-5503Johan Hovold <johan.hovold@lundinova.se> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0eaeda31b9 10openembedded.git/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:04.46CIA-55wxwidgets: add 2.9.0 and clean up recipes
13:04.46CIA-55- Add wxwidget-2.9.0 include with derived rather than hardcoded lib and
13:04.46CIA-55config script names (depends on debug and charset configure flags)
13:04.48CIA-55- Use regular expression for LEAD_SONAME rather than hardcoded name.
13:04.50CIA-55- Fix autoconf issue where configure could not find staging root.
13:04.52CIA-55- Use INC_PR.
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13:38.34mckoanhrw: marked patch in patchwork as applied
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13:40.09mckoanhrw: does exist a patchwork page for applied patches? (or for patches with status != New)
13:40.53hrwmckoan: there are options for filtering
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13:42.53mckoanhrw: looks like most of patches have status Accepted but only 2 are Applied, is it normal?
13:43.34mckoanhrw: aha Applied+ Archived
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14:00.43hrwmckoan: can you ack 1499?
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14:07.17mckoanhrw: I could but I have to test it before, because is stable
14:07.55mckoanhrw: and I don't know on which machine test it
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14:09.23hrwok
14:10.08mckoanhrw: this is one of the biggest limit of stable
14:10.34hrwprepare better rules for next one
14:11.00Crofton_|workhrw, need a more diverse group of people
14:11.12hrwsure
14:11.17Crofton_|workit is good that we are all looking and talking about what goes in
14:11.39hrwI got Koen's ack now
14:11.52Crofton_|workbasically, we are trusting that robert is the java guy :)
14:12.34mckoanI added wxwidgets-2.9.0.bb but I want to build with 2.8.10, so I added KAEILOS_WX_VERSION ?= "2.8.10" and PREFERRED_VERSION_wxwidgets = "${KAEILOS_WX_VERSION}" but in root I always get 2.9.0, where am I wrong?
14:12.35hrwthe problem is that I am more and more java infected
14:12.54mckoanhrw: java is worse than H1N1
14:13.45mckoanhrw: lethal for already ill and a few was infected (LOL)
14:15.12mckoanhrw: if Koen acked you, does this mean that he tested it in a couple of hours?
14:15.42Crofton_|workmost likely he looked at it and figured it won't break anything hrw won't immediately fix :0
14:15.47Crofton_|work:)
14:16.23Crofton_|workand there is nothing obviously wrong
14:16.29mckoanCrofton_|work: I inderstand he's a wizard, but this is unsafe
14:16.56hrwor he was affected by that already and used such fix internally
14:17.17mckoanhrw: I'd prefer the latter :-D
14:17.31Crofton_|workmckoan, the other option is deadlock
14:17.39Crofton_|workbecause we do not have a lot of java users
14:17.48mckoanCrofton_|work: I understand
14:17.57Crofton_|workthe goal is stable be usable
14:18.09Crofton_|workby now several of us have looked it the patch in questions
14:18.34hrwwith this fix I should finally have stable/2009 based buildbot builds for BugLabs working
14:18.49hrwtime to heat up their server room
14:19.49mckoanhrw: I will be less scrupulous in the future ;-)
14:20.31mckoanany hint about PREFERRED_VERSION_wxwidgets ?
14:20.48JaMa|Offhrw: is buglabs buildbot reporting to tinderbox? (or could be?)
14:23.22Crofton_|workis someone looking at Ulf's patches?
14:23.38hrwJaMa|Off: I can make it
14:23.46hrwmckoan: no hint sorry
14:24.26mckoanhrw: so must be a problem hard to solve :-(
14:25.24JaMa|Offhrw: thanks.. I'm interested if you will be able to build http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/phoneme-advanced-foundation/
14:25.52JaMa|Offhrw: and as you're java infected then I guess you have it in some image/feed already
14:26.00pb_mckoan: is it actually building the wrong version of wxwidgets, or is it just pulling in the wrong one from your deploy directory?
14:26.12hrwJaMa|Off: we use phoneme-advanced-personal
14:26.32JaMa|Offhrw: here it hangs indefinitely, not sure if because of low mem or that deadlock..
14:27.14mckoanpb_: I thought each bb recipe was responsible foor its deploy, I'll investigate, thx
14:28.20hrwJaMa|Off: never built foundation
14:28.31mckoanhrw: I hope you are not offended because I didn't ack, I simply followed stable rules, I will be less scrupulous in the future ;-)
14:28.59JaMa|Offhrw: hmm nvm.. this patch is there long enough.. so last time I tried to build foundation it was already there..
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14:32.21hrwfine with it I am
14:32.53Crofton_|workmckoan, different people have different comfort levels with what they will ack
14:32.56Crofton_|workthis is a good thing
14:33.09mckoanCrofton_|work: no prob :-)
14:33.31Crofton_|workit is good to be cautious
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14:35.33mckoanCrofton_|work: in a community you have to balance technical stuff with social one, if too cautious = ugly this could generate social problems :-)
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14:40.34nhgcan someone please point me to some examples/documentation on how a make file could be used within a .bb (bitbake recipe)?
14:41.06pb_nhg: do_compile() { oe_runmake }
14:41.39pb_in fact, if your makefile is conventionally named, you don't even need that because it is the default.
14:41.49pb_see base_do_compile() in base.bbclass
14:42.13nhgpb_: thanks....then how does the recipe know where my make file is located etc.?
14:42.22pb_nhg: it expects it to be in ${S}
14:42.39pb_if it's somewhere else, you can point to it with -f as normal
14:43.05pb_EXTRA_OEMAKE = "-f subdir/Makefile", that kind of thing
14:44.07nhgok...I couldn't find much on the oe documentation on that
14:45.25nhgwonder if the makefiles should conform to some standard for this to work...or any makefile will work in a recipe
14:45.32pb_any makefile will be fine
14:46.13pb_well, assuming it doesn't have things like hard-coded compiler names
14:46.30kergothnhg: it just runs make.. if your installed make works with the makefile, it'll work fine.  and makefiles are pretty portable, the only thing that could even theoretically choke would be a makefile designed for the old bsd make rather than gnu make, and those are few and far between
14:46.33kergothhey pb_
14:46.35nhgdid you find it somewhere in http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html?
14:46.37kergothyawns
14:46.38pb_hi kergoth
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15:33.52kergothguh
15:34.03jovoxI still have the problem with "hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc' no such file or directory". I know how to create it manually when the system is running but it doesnt  sounds like the best idea.. Is there any other way? Why isn't it created "by default"
15:34.30kergothwe're running into an issue where we need to not build a given package, but only if its dependency is newer than version XYZ.. in OE tahts not a rpoblem because people would just not explicitly build it.. but we do regular world builds..
15:34.35pb_jovox: sounds like a bug in your udev/mdev setup
15:35.00kergoththinks about how painful itd be to try to add version specific depends/conflicts to oe
15:35.01kergoths/oe/bitbake/
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15:35.35pb_kergoth: fairly painful, I think, though it would be very worthwhile
15:36.26pb_iirc, bitbake has a somewhat ingrained assumption that it will only build a single version of a package in any one run, which of course breaks down if you admit versioned dependencies.
15:36.28kergothyeah.. thats what i was thinking.. would have to add a fair bit of extra logic to the cooker/runqueue
15:36.48kergothtrue
15:37.02pb_not really sure what semantics you could meaningfully give to conflicts at the bitbake level.
15:39.29jovoxpb_, what do you mean with udev/mdev "setup"? Configuration or bug in udev itself?
15:39.42pb_configuration, probably, but it could be either
15:39.48kergothwould almost have to implement private staging, or locked staging that gets packages uninstalled/installed based on version specific dependencies, to pull it off, since its not normally safe to build multiple versions of something, unless it has no staging files
15:40.00pb_yeah
15:40.09pb_private staging seems like it must be the way to go for all kinds of reasons
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15:40.29pb_I think we previously talked about making packaged staging mandatory as a first step in that direction.
15:40.40kergothnods
15:41.15brooniedoesn't see why versioned dependencies are a problem there - it'd just say "I can't satisfy this" if the version can't be satisfied
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15:42.43kergothbroonie: i suppose thats one route, just error out if there are conflicting version requirements.. but it could make world builds impossible
15:43.34pb_yeah, I think that would suck.
15:46.42brooniePresumably if these versioned dependencies already exist then world builds are already impossible.
15:47.57broonies/already/actually/
15:48.04broonieotherwise the dependencies are spurious anyway
15:48.06kergothworld builds work, just some packages may fail to build
15:48.09kergoththats actually why i brought this up
15:48.24kergothwe have this happening at work, we do regular world builds, and we have a package that can't be built with version > XYZ of one of its deps
15:48.28broonieEh? Surely that means that world builds only partially work?
15:48.29kergothso we're basically hosed, just now
15:49.13brooniewith the deps you could at least do something like have world builds drop the packages that can't possibly be built, rather than fail during build
15:50.13kergoththat's true.  as long as the distro still sets the version preferences so bitbake knows which of the alternative scenarios to choose from, since it can't pick one at random
15:50.29kergothis thinking the case where A DEPENDS on C < 1.0 and B DEPENDS on C > 1.0
15:51.16kergothotherwise it would likely have to drop all packages involved in the conflict until the user selects one
15:52.44kergothit's too bad a recipe can't access bitbake's preferences information, and raise SkipPackage if it sees it wants to build a given version of something
15:52.50kergothwould be a workaround, at least
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16:01.40kergothdamnit.. i know i remember patching this little hack into bitbake for some reason, but i don't remember why..
16:02.42serp_I am trying to understand how OpenEmbedded works... is the point to create an image by creating a config file and then run bitbake <package> for all packages you want installed on the image?
16:02.56hrwkergoth: a=['cos','tam','asaa'] - and now I want to get 'cos tam asaa' string from that list. how?
16:03.11kergoth' '.join(a)
16:03.15hrwthx
16:03.17kergothnp
16:03.29kergothuses that ALL THE TIME
16:03.30kergoth:)
16:03.46mlipsomeone got a few (hopefully) mins, to help me creating a libxml-perl module recipe ?
16:04.02mlip(got some problems with Makefile.PL and the 'make test'
16:06.21kergothyoww.. my private staging prototype is .. not the prettiest code I've written
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16:06.43serp_what is the proper way of creating an image that should run on a beagleboard with some packages installed?
16:10.19mlipno cpan.bbclass guru present ? :/
16:11.33kristofferhow do I update package list again?
16:11.50kergothtends to avoid perl wherever possible
16:12.38mlipkristoffer: bitbake package-index
16:13.01kristofferthanks
16:13.18kergothhmm
16:14.18kristofferkergoth, also, got a new fancy tar.gz bug. Seems like tar.gz builds just fine when manually specifying files. But when building images, all their unbuilt depends only create ipks.
16:14.48kergothi don't think a rootfs_tar even exists right now.
16:15.05kergothyou'd have to set IMAGE_PKGTYPE = "tar", and create a rootfs_tar if necessary
16:16.26kristofferIm not sure if you follow me, if image X depends on packages a b c d e, I only get packages a b c d e in ipk format.
16:17.25kergothyes?
16:18.54kergothdoublechcks image.bbclass
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16:20.53kergothhmm
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16:27.55kergothkristoffer: rootfs_ipk only pulls in the *ipks* of its dependent things.  when you bitbake foo, it builds foo and it runs the tasks in foo's dependencies necessary to build foo.  if foo is a regular recipe, that means it runs the populate_staging task on those dependencies.  if foo is an image, it runs do_package_write_ipk on those recipes, as well as do_populate_staging and do_deploy.
16:28.11kristofferaha
16:29.18kristofferthx
16:29.24kergothnp
16:30.05kergothif you're curious about how i found that, you can see that in package_ipk, there's also a task that updates the package index for the rootfs, it runs before do_rootfs, and does a recrdeptask on do_package_write of its deps.
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16:51.19ant_workkergoth: are the issues with packagedstaging and wrong arch solved in your tree?
16:51.38kergothno, we still see warnings about it.. it doesn't break, but we see warnigns about no arch set and using default
16:51.51ant_workthus, rebuilding all natives...
16:52.36Tartaruswhich wrong arch problem?
16:52.40Tartarustarget stuff being host_arch.ipk
16:52.47TartarusOr target stuff gettting binconfigs ?
16:53.00ant_workwrong arch in the staging packages
16:53.49mckoanhave a nice rest of the day
16:54.06Tartarusant_work, what do you mean?
16:54.54ant_workeven target ipks get the wrong arch (the host one)
16:54.58ant_worksee udev e.g.
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16:55.42TartarusEr, I don't follow
16:55.50TartarusI see armv6 ipks in the armv6 ipk dir
16:56.00Tartarusfrom my build out right now of a buncha pstaging stuff
16:56.28ant_workiirc was staging_helper in packages-staging.bbclass
16:56.39ant_workI don't have oetree here
16:57.02ant_workissue is rebuild from pstage takes longer as expected...
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17:02.57kergothTartarus: i think his concern is with the staging ipks, not the target ipks.  the staging ipks have both an arch that opkg knows about, as well as an arch/os embedded in the filename.  if the target is embedded in everything, then the native prebuilts wouldn't be shared properly.  i don't think we made many changes to it, so I'm not entirely clearly on what the exact problem is right now, but thats the area of his concern, as far as i can t
17:05.37TartarusAh
17:05.51TartarusYeah, there's a lot of overlap
17:06.07Tartarusand like I was saying with binconfigs, host junk ends up in the target ipks anyhow
17:06.41TartarusMy kind of thought atm is that the host vendor needs to be encoded anyhow
17:07.06TartarusSince we sure aren't making LSB host bins :)
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17:08.04ant_workTartarus: the point is opkg thinks all staged-packages are for i686 (my host) and a rebuild from pstage rebuilds all again
17:09.25TartarusA rebuild on a not-i686 host?
17:09.44ant_workon the same host, if I delete all but /pstage
17:09.58TartarusOK, that sounds like a bug somewhere then
17:10.08TartarusI'm doing a whole bunch of start from scratch builds
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17:10.22Tartarusmy pstage.bbclass isn't that different
17:10.27ant_workbefore that, try to wipe all but that /pstage dir
17:10.34TartarusBut the big issue I'm hitting is deciding something is invalid
17:10.36Tartaruswhen it shouldn't be
17:10.43Tartarusant_work, do you redefine ....
17:10.56TartarusDEPLOY_PSTAGE_DIR ?
17:11.13TartarusI stick that outside of $TMPDIR
17:11.23ant_workok, thios leads toother issues :)
17:11.34ant_workwith package_stagefile_shell
17:11.43ant_workbut even
17:11.45TartarusWhat issues?
17:11.53TartarusI haven't seen any, but maybe I'm not hitting the right things
17:12.03TartarusI suppose some very naughty do_deploys could be a problem
17:12.07Tartarusbut the big ones I thought were fixed
17:12.17ant_workif you are lucky enoughyou don't ever need that package_stagefile_shell hack
17:12.29ant_workonly a few bootloaders
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17:15.49ant_workTartarus: found http://blog.denix.org/2008/09/getting-even-more-dangerous-with-pstage.html
17:17.03CIA-5503Simon 'Morphis' Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc87ea56a9e 10openembedded.git/recipes/preboot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): preboot: new recipe; a dual boot solution for the palm pre (WIP)
17:18.12TartarusHmmm
17:18.28TartarusHaven't hit a point in my builds where it wants to install the kernel again
17:18.32Tartaruslemme go poke the pstage file
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17:21.53TartarusBah, I see fakeroot needs some special handling
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17:23.44ant_workbbl
17:26.50kergothTartarus: i was thinking yesterday about looking at some of the other autopackage tools.  they had some scary stuff for binary modification to make it more portable.  i think it may have gone in and manipulated the glibc versioned symbols, can't recall.. twisted, but interesting
17:26.52kergothheh
17:27.28TartarusThat's a bit drastic, yes
17:28.07kergoththey were really anal about binary portability.. not that i can blame them, its a mess, even with LSB around
17:28.11kergothheh
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17:30.20TartarusNot perfect I suppose
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18:55.15CIA-5503Marco Cavallini <m.cavallini@koansoftware.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r91c888e06f 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/kaeilos-2009-preferred-versions.inc: kaeilos-2009-preferred-versions.inc: errata in PREFERRED_VERSION_wxwidgets
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19:07.33CIA-5503Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfae0d64b58 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Add missing sum for linuxkernel-2.6.24-patch
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19:09.28kergothhey florian
19:09.41florianhi kergoth
19:10.15kergothhttp://www.embedded.com/201200638 .. nice little series, decent refresher
19:10.24kergothhrm
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19:15.57CIA-5503Thomas Zimmermann <ml@vdm-design.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1a6ebaa5ed 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
19:15.57CIA-55mickeydbus2: add new recipe
19:15.57CIA-55Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
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19:35.55kristofferHmm, trying to build glibc 2.9 for armv4. Getting alot of undefined reference to __divdf3 __muldf3 __ltdf2...and so on coming from unwind-pe.c
19:36.19woglindehm
19:36.25woglindesoftfloat problems
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19:46.49jovoxpb_, the missing /dev/misc/rtc problem I was talking about before.. Do you have any suggestions on where I should start? I don't know much about how udev work (if it's udev that's supposed to create it)
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20:26.54kergothman, irc is dead today
20:27.40pb__so last century, right?
20:28.13kergothheh
20:28.42pb__jovox: I don't know that much about udev myself.  I guess you'd need to check the documentation.
20:29.04pb__I use mdev on all my OE systems nowadays.
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20:33.08Crofton_|workwoglinde, thanks again for the help with gnome-gmaes
20:33.09jovoxpb__ ok
20:45.59woglindere
20:46.07woglindecrofton no prob
20:46.12woglindehi pb and kergoth
20:46.20kergothhey
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20:49.43jovoxIf I manually create the /dev/rtc with mknod I still get and error: "hwclock: can't open '/dev/rtc': No such device". Could this have anything todo with my kernel configuration?
20:49.58woglindejovox yes
20:50.05woglindemake sure rtc is enabled
20:50.19woglindeor /dev/rtc has the wrong acess rules
20:50.42jovoxwrong access rules.. uhmm udev config?
20:53.20CIA-5503Stanislav Brabec <utx@penguin.cz> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc71044be4d 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:53.20CIA-55xf86-input-tslib: Fix double free crash while on chvt or exit.
20:53.20CIA-55* For more see recipes/xorg-driver/xf86-input-tslib/double-free-crash.patch
20:57.16jovoxwoglinde, is there any documentation about configuring the kernel in OE? I have never really understood how it's done.
20:58.17Crofton_|workhttp://www.xora.org.uk/2009/12/10/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/
20:58.20Crofton_|workmight help
20:58.42jovoxthanks
20:58.46CIA-5503Stanislav Brabec <utx@penguin.cz> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra197e5c95c 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-xserver/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:58.46CIA-55xserver-xorg: Worked around server termination after chvt on some fbdev devices.
20:58.46CIA-55* The patch is just a quick hack that fixes chvt on some fbdev devices.
20:58.46CIA-55* For more read recipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg/hack-fbdev-ignore-return-mode.patch
20:58.50jovoxI'll read through it
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21:08.58jovoxCrofton_|work, one thing that confuses me is this "bitbake virtual/kernel". and that the kernel recipes are in linuc/linux_version.bb
21:10.47jovoxso lets say I want to configure a specific version.. xora does: bitbake linux-elphel -c configure. How is that translated to a specific kernel in oe?
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21:12.03kergothPROVIDES.  Every recipe, by default, provides its package name, name dash version, name dash version dash revision.  It's likely only one recipe provides linux-elphel, so that recipe will be used.  Multiple recipes provide virtual/kernel, however
21:12.52jovoxOk I see
21:15.24jovoxAnd from where should I do the configuration? ie, make menuconfig
21:19.18eFfeM1jovox if the default defconfig is not good foor you do
21:19.31eFfeM1bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel
21:20.05eFfeM1reboot, brb
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21:26.11jovoxeFfeM, thanks. Problem is I don't have any X on the build machine.. Do you know where to configure it to run in terminal?
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21:49.50ant__Tartarus: ping
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21:50.33woglindehi laibsch
21:51.02ant__hi woglinde
21:51.05ant__hi Laibsch
21:51.22ant__Tartarus: I kept an old log resuming the pstage issue: http://fr.pastebin.ca/1759461
21:51.37ant__I'll try in a few mins a new rebuild from pstage
21:52.11woglindejo ant
21:52.20ant__Laibsch: have you a mom to look into the e2fsprogs/TLS issue?
21:52.25ant__woglinde: ^^
21:52.29ant__Laibsch: sorry
21:52.55ant__seems plain uclibc issue
21:53.17woglindehm?
21:53.31ant__some macro you said...
21:53.32Tartarusant__: not an issue now?  I have managed to build a rootfs image from totally just cached pstage stuff
21:53.33CIA-5503Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8364b075ed 10openembedded.git/recipes/gdb/ (gdb.inc gdbserver.inc):
21:53.33CIA-55gdb: Add RRECOMMENDS for uclibc-thread-db when using uclibc for system C
21:53.33CIA-55library.
21:53.33CIA-55* Fix PR 3273
21:53.33CIA-55Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
21:53.47ant__Tartarus: I'll tell you in a few mins ;)
21:53.48TartarusThat said, instead of noarch, it's hostarch so that warning is gone, but it's not quite right either
21:54.35ant__woglinde: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/4452892.txt
21:55.09jovoxWhat is needed to do a bitbake -c menuconfig without running X? IIRC there where some arguments that could be passed to bitbake?
21:55.16ant__woglinde: in configure: checking for thread local storage (TLS) class... __thread
21:55.29ant__minimal-uclibc btw
21:55.54woglindeant hm
21:55.59woglindefalse tls macro
21:56.12woglindelookinto my pulseaudio patch
21:56.37woglindeor better the tls macro is plain wrong
21:56.49woglindebut that happend normaly only for c++ stuff hm
21:58.24ant__Tartarus: hm..
21:59.16ant__I'm looking at the control file in staging-udev-c7x0-angstrom-linux-gnueabi_141-r20_i686-linux.ipk
21:59.29ant__c7x0 ... i686...
21:59.34TartarusYeap
21:59.36ant__Architecture: i686-linux
21:59.36TartarusThat's what I mean
21:59.39Tartarusit's not noarch anymore
21:59.41TartarusIts i686-linux
21:59.45TartarusWhich is less wrong
21:59.50ant__??
21:59.51TartarusSince for example, stuff with binconfig in it
21:59.56ant__c7x0 = armv5te
21:59.57Tartarusie staging-freetype-...
22:00.00ant__host = x86
22:00.04Tartarushas a host bit in it
22:00.21TartarusNot all target stuff is contaminated like this
22:00.23TartarusBut some is
22:00.35ant__just cross, sdk are ok it seems..let see
22:00.41TartarusWell
22:00.47TartarusThey're all going to be your host arch
22:00.54TartarusWhich I'm saying is just less wrong
22:01.03ant__D:
22:01.16ant__bitter
22:02.01ant__woglinde: btw there is another issue with uclibc and old headers (libtrace)
22:02.38ant__ltrace
22:02.39ant__http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/task/4446605.txt
22:02.58ant__it's just an incomplete/old header
22:03.17ant__strangely another target in the same dir defines the missing things...
22:04.00ant__clearly that's not happening with glibc/eglibc
22:04.18woglindeask khem about it
22:04.22woglindesorry have no time for this
22:04.37ant__I think uclibc needs updates. fix is trivial, though
22:05.27ant__you know, I'm building different combos distro/libc just to check the image sizes...
22:05.40woglindesure
22:05.48ant__atm minimal-uclibc looks good, is just a bit broken...
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22:06.21jovoxIs it bitbake that launches gnome-terminal and thereby should be configured?
22:06.35ant__minimal-eglibc is smaller than angstrom-glibc (I have to check better but I think the pacjkages installed are almost the same)
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22:13.41khemhello
22:13.53woglindehi khem
22:13.58khemhi woglinde
22:14.51woglindekhem ant has some questions
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22:17.48jovoxDo you guys always configure your kernels in X?
22:18.02JaMa|Offnever
22:18.52jovoxJaMa|Off, so what did you have to do to make it not starting gnome-terminal?
22:18.56JaMa|Offjovox: see TERMCMD TERMCMDRUN in conf/bitbake.conf
22:19.19JaMa|Offjovox: I use screen istead of gnome-terminal which is not installed here at all
22:20.06woglindehi gnutoo
22:20.36khemwoglinde: k
22:20.42khemant__: whats up
22:20.51ant__hi khem
22:20.57khemoh the ltrace/uclibc
22:21.07ant__just discussing about failure in minimal-uclibc
22:21.11khemthat will require a header update in uclibc
22:21.14GNUtoowoglinde, hi
22:21.19ant__it seems so
22:21.26khemant__: what image are you building
22:21.34khemant__: you could select nplt
22:21.36GNUtoo|oeeewoglinde, can I commit one more abiword fix?
22:21.40khemfor arm/uclibc
22:21.46khemits in good shape
22:21.54ant__I build console - opie- and x11-image
22:22.01khemand all your TLS worries will be o ver
22:22.03ant__iirc it fails already in console-image
22:22.35khemant__: I think nptl will get you further I am sure
22:22.48khemjust set the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE
22:23.11khemI have build opie-image and native-sdk-image recently with uclibc/nptl/arm
22:23.36ant__khem: you make me remember when I first rebuilt my Gentoo around glibc-nptl 5-6 yrs ago...
22:23.42jovoxJaMa|Off, ah ok, thank you
22:23.45khemnobody cares about LT anymore so you will see more and more packages broken
22:24.03khemant__: well then here you go again
22:24.03GNUtoo|oeeealso gnumeric has a doltlibtool problem....should we wait?
22:24.07khemthis time with uclibc
22:24.12woglindeGNUtoo|oeee sure
22:24.17GNUtoo|oeeeok
22:24.18woglindeI am only bugfixer
22:24.23GNUtoo|oeeeI'll comit tomorrow
22:24.34GNUtoo|oeeeabout gnumeric I don't know what to doo
22:24.40GNUtoo|oeeeif we should fix or wait
22:25.02woglindeGNUtoo|oeee my point was remove dolt stuff from the configure.in/ac
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22:25.35GNUtoo|oeeeI know but after the discussion + the upstream sumission is it still what I should do?
22:26.27woglindehm
22:26.30woglindewe are oe
22:26.36woglindewe make it build
22:27.05GNUtoo|oeeeok
22:27.16GNUtoo|oeeeso I'll fix it too
22:27.23woglindesure
22:27.39GNUtoo|oeeeI've tons of fix to do
22:27.43woglindeotherwise the lovecroftpiddy guys come up
22:27.54woglindewhile he cannt build demo-image
22:27.55GNUtoo|oeeewhat's that?
22:27.58GNUtoo|oeeeah ok
22:31.57GNUtoo|oeeebtw what image should I build for having illume
22:32.06GNUtoo|oeeeillume-image seem for phone and doesn't work
22:32.23GNUtoo|oeeeit should be replaced by the shr images
22:32.43woglindedemo or x11 image
22:32.44GNUtoo|oeeeI would like a generic image
22:32.48GNUtoo|oeeeok
22:32.52GNUtoo|oeeex11 install illume?
22:32.57GNUtoo|oeeeI'll look
22:41.19jovoxJaMa|Off, I changed it to screen and did bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel. But it seem to hang. I run it with -DDD to see what happends and it stops at "screen -D -m -t 'linux Kernel Configuration' make menuconfig"
22:42.38GNUtoo|oeeemmm
22:42.52jovoxhmm it opened in  a new screen
22:42.59GNUtoo|oeeethe deps names don't say they depends on illume
22:43.05GNUtoo|oeeeI'll look in bitbake -i
22:44.11woglindegnutoo hm oh
22:44.16woglindethan it was e17 only
22:45.56GNUtoo|oeee?
22:46.04GNUtoo|oeeeok I'll look
22:46.38GNUtoo|oeeethere is e-image
22:47.02GNUtoo|oeeebut what I wonder is if it askes the profile to choose at the beginning
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22:47.15GNUtoo|oeeeif so I should use this one in the future
22:47.58GNUtoo|oeeestrange there are gpe things inside
22:55.59jovoxI'm running out of time here and thinking of hiring an experienced oe developer for a couple of hours..
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23:10.52kergotharg, wtf.. this recipe parses fine in oe and freaks under mvl6 post-oe-sync, yet i can't find a root cause
23:11.00kergothit seems like it should be failing under oe too
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23:13.22kergothman this is weird
23:14.03kergoththis konq recipe was setting exec_prefix = ${palmtopdir} but palmtopdir is ${libdir}/opie, and libdir is ${exec_prefix}/lib .. recursive at expansion time, yet doesn't fail to parse when using oe alone
23:14.05kergothscratches head
23:20.42ant__Tartarus: unfortunately rebuild from packaged staging is still failing miserably for my target...
23:22.57CIA-5503Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2f6df5f071 10openembedded.git/recipes/rpm/rpm-native_4.4.2.3.bb:
23:22.57CIA-55rpm-native: kill unnecessary varprefix/localstatedir manipulation
23:22.57CIA-55Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com>
23:28.32CIA-5503Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0b76c230a4 10openembedded.git/recipes/konqueror/konqueror-embedded_20060404.bb:
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23:28.32CIA-55Signed-off-by: Chris Larson <clarson@mvista.com>
23:32.14kergothgod i hate these "No Python in STAGING_INCDIR" messages
23:32.22kergothexceptions from var expansions piss me off
23:32.40woglindehm
23:32.45RPkergoth: Yes, I wish we had a nicer way of doing that. KERNEL_VERSION was similar
23:32.55woglindehi rp
23:33.01RPhi woglinde
23:33.24RPkergoth: I fixed the bitbake IPC and event issues and am much happier with master now
23:33.26kergoththere has to be a better method than this.
23:33.39kergothsaw your reply about the progress, good to hear, nicely done
23:33.42RPkergoth: agreed. The python and person stuff is insane :/
23:33.47kergothwill take a look this weekend probably
23:33.53RPs/person/perl/ :/
23:34.11RPkergoth: I've made bitbake master the default in poky - we'll see what that shows up :)
23:34.17kergothnice.
23:34.27kergothi think my boss would shoot me if i tried something like that :)
23:34.57RPkergoth: I can imagine :)
23:35.21RPPoky master has development and we just made a stable release so I don't feel too bad about it in my case
23:35.29kergothneeds to set aside more time to play with OE proper builds rather than just mvl6 stuff
23:35.32kergothcool
23:35.56RPMy plan is to look at this parser branch now, merge that, then call it 1.10
23:36.35woglindekergoth rp made all packges BBCLASSEXTEND in poky
23:36.42woglindewe need to start it in oe too
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23:37.21RPwoglinde: I just made BBCLASSEXTEND much nicer in bitbake master too with a few bugfixes
23:38.09RPMade it part of the parsing and cache code rather than a sneaked in addon
23:38.43woglindefewer files many better parse speed
23:38.47woglindeargs means
23:39.29RPwoglinde: Next, I'm wondering about multi threaded parsing
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23:39.51woglinderp yes
23:40.33kergothi just finished the sync of the oe features/bugfixes into mvl6, so I'm hoping we can start converting to new style staging and BBEXTENDCLASS too
23:41.49kergothRP: i'll go ahead and rebase the conversion of bb.msg to use the logging module on top of current master and push it on a branch for review.  one of those things thats been floating around for a while, don't think I ever got around to pushing it
23:42.12kergothwill be fun making the thing apply, I'm sure
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