IRC log for #oe on 20100104

00:00.04mwesterThe error messages generated by bitbake are printed to stderr/stdout in the normal fashion.  Often the failure is a failing task, in which case bitbake's messages will tell you what log file contains the output from the failing task that it tried to execute.
00:02.41xperiamwester: thank you for the answer. have hoped to execute some command on my terminal like "bitbake -errormessage" to get the status information but okay will now go to my server in the underground to see what exactly the error message is. will be back in some minute with more info
00:09.18xperiaokay. have the error message it is for some starnge reason a out of memory error message. hmmm will paste now the full error report
00:13.55xperiarunning task 1 of 2542 (id: 15, .../recipes/shasum/shasum-native.bb, do setscene)
00:13.57xperiarunning task 2 of 2542 (id: 75, .../recipes/coreutils/coreutils-native_7.2.bb,do setscene)
00:13.58xperiaOut of Memory: Kill Process 11335 (python)
00:14.00xperiaERROR: Task 15 shasum-native.bb do setscene failed
00:14.50xperiadisk space is not the problem as i have nearly 50 GB free space on the disk where oe is located
00:19.12xperiathe only thing what could be a problem is maybe the memory as i have only 256 MB in total.
00:19.13xperiaNormall memory usage while ther server run is less than 10% (25MB)
00:19.15xperiawhile building oe mem usgae goes to 100% but this is normal.
00:19.16xperiawhy i am getting out of memmory error while building oe.
00:19.18xperiaDo i need more RAM ? Exist some people here who builded oe with 256 MB Ram ?
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00:40.28xperiaokay it looks like 512 MB would be better than 256 MB. need also to disable parallel builds too. good will try again. see you till next time
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01:15.09htnsis there a graphical application like notepad with on-screen keyboard in OE?
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01:26.44htnsanyone using OE with new marvell cpus like PXA310, PXA168?
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02:20.36AmrHi Guyz
02:20.59AmrI need help building bitbake gumstix-basic-image
02:22.30AmrI need help building bitbake gumstix-basic-image on Ubuntu 9.10
02:35.53mwesterputs his telepathic powers to work, and after straining to to divine the problem, picks up an image... a url that will solve the problem... http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
02:36.00mwesterDid I get it right?!
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03:41.05Aditya1hmm
03:41.15Aditya1it looks like angstrom built opie for x11 image
03:41.29Aditya1is there any way to build gnome or xfce or enlightenment instead?
03:43.36zeckeAditya1: sure. first you can install packages after the image was built, and there are multiple image targets
03:44.05Aditya1install packages on the target directly using ipkg?
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03:57.38Aditya1opkg I mean
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04:02.24Aditya11zecke: ?
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04:08.25StevenLiuhow should i build a angstrom Qemu  version
04:08.34StevenLiuanyone succeed to build a Qemu version ??
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04:48.40zeckeStevenLiu: you are right, the current libsdl-native does not have X11 support. I have a patch after lunch
04:51.20StevenLiuhi zecke,thanks
04:51.32Aditya11any ideas how I can get xfce on my angstrom build?
04:51.44Aditya11ideally, I'd like my OE toolchain to build an image that has xfce as the default
04:52.38zeckeAditya11: what did you do so far to figure things out?
04:52.39StevenLiuzecke:
04:52.43StevenLiuis this right?
04:52.58StevenLiuDEPENDS += "libx11-native"
04:52.58StevenLiuEXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-debug --disable-cdrom --enable-threads --enable-timers --enable-endian \
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04:53.03Aditya11yikes
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04:53.14Aditya11StevenLiu: use www.pastebin.com
04:53.19Aditya11don't paste directly in here
04:53.25zeckeStevenLiu: hehe, normally don't paste that much here... :)
04:53.30zeckelisppaste7: url
04:53.30lisppaste7To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/oe and enter your paste.
04:53.40Aditya11zecke: I tried installing xfwm4 using opkg
04:53.41StevenLiusorry:-$
04:53.44Aditya11directly on teh target
04:53.52zeckeAditya11: and?
04:53.58Aditya11it said it installed but opie still shows up
04:54.07Aditya11on a regular linux system I'd use switchdesk
04:54.20Aditya11but I dont see that option on the oe build
04:54.23Aditya11or the angstrom feeds
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04:55.27zeckeAditya11: well, check your start scripts /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d, Opie is probably started before X11?
04:56.30zeckeAditya11: but this is more like a user question, if you want to build a image with xfce, you could look into recipes/images/... there at least two that start with "xfce-"
04:57.46Aditya11ah cool
04:58.29Aditya11thanks, was looking for that recipes dir
04:58.42lisppaste7Steven Liu pasted "libsdl x11 support" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/92972
04:59.21StevenLiuhi zecke, am i right?
05:01.15zeckeStevenLiu: yes, I'm trying this right now
05:01.35StevenLiuthanks
05:01.45StevenLiui hava built it
05:02.14StevenLiubut when i start up Qemu ,i got the error
05:02.45StevenLiuhwclock:can't open /dev/misc/rtc : no such file or directory
05:03.04StevenLiuwhy i got this error
05:03.45zeckeStevenLiu: on your buildhost?
05:03.56StevenLiuyes
05:04.29zeckeStevenLiu: buildhost or inside qemu?
05:04.58StevenLiuinside qemu
05:05.44zeckeStevenLiu: no idea... it can have many reasons
05:05.58StevenLiuoh ,my god
05:06.38StevenLiui didn't know how to do ,i just want to test e windowmanager
05:07.01StevenLiui can't start the image built by OE
05:07.23zeckeStevenLiu: I'm not following. it is not that a failing hwclock will fail the boot
05:09.51StevenLiuo
05:11.23StevenLiubut how could i get a more detail info about the kernel
05:11.42zeckeStevenLiu: *sigh*, I'm here to support community members. This means that you will have to think, try things and ask specific questions. "I have a problem, fix it for me" does not work here.
05:12.32zeckeStevenLiu: why do you think that this message is fatal and blocking things for you?
05:15.34zeckeStevenLiu: my qemu just built and I will boot my console-image now.. let me see how far this gets
05:17.02StevenLiuthanks
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05:19.22zeckeStevenLiu: add "rw" to your -append..
05:30.07StevenLiuOE: the error continued ,
05:30.23StevenLiu-append "root=/dev/sda rw"
05:31.11zeckeStevenLiu: so what? hwclock failing is not fatal in anyway. My console-image boots to the boot prompt, I can login, it seems to work
05:31.31zeckeStevenLiu: if you look at the boot messages... you see the versatile RTC driver fails as there is no hw support for it..
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05:39.07StevenLiuyes the console image can start up
05:39.15StevenLiubut x11 image halt
05:40.18zeckeStevenLiu: well, what happens if you start X11 by hand?
05:40.37StevenLiui will try it
05:41.07StevenLiumay i should post this problem to the maillist
05:41.45zeckeStevenLiu: no, you should think first.
05:41.59StevenLiuOK
05:42.12zeckeStevenLiu: you can not expect that others fix your problems, it is the wrong mentality
05:43.06StevenLiuThanks
05:43.18CIA-5403nokia <nokia@nokia-qtwebkit.(none)> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf017581d07 10openembedded.git/recipes/libsdl/libsdl-native.inc:
05:43.23CIA-54libsdl-native: Build with the X11 backend
05:43.25CIA-54* Depend on libx11-native
05:43.27CIA-54* Increment PR
05:43.40CIA-5403Holger Hans Peter Freyther <zecke@selfish.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc35d97c92 10openembedded.git/recipes/libsdl/ (3 files):
05:43.43CIA-54libsdl-native: Create libsdl-native.inc
05:43.45CIA-54* Create a libsdl-native.inc and make 1.2.11 and 1.2.14 use it
05:43.47CIA-54* Convert to INC_PR scheme as well
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05:54.15zeckeStevenLiu: did you try running Xorg manually yet?
05:55.56StevenLiuroot
05:56.05StevenLiusorry
05:56.40StevenLiuno ,i have not try ,but i will try
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06:45.45StevenLiuhi Holger, Is OE support autotest bot?
06:46.48zeckeStevenLiu: see the today's mailinglist thread.
06:46.56zeckeStevenLiu: so how does starting Xorg by hand go?
06:48.13StevenLiui hava change runlevel to 2,and rebuild x11-image
06:48.41zeckeStevenLiu: wow, that is complicated
06:48.51StevenLiusorry so slow,i not family with OE env
06:49.19StevenLiuso i dig the OE evn for so long time
06:49.44zeckeStevenLiu: e.g. I'm still not sure what your problem is. Could you try to describe it in some sentences?
06:49.45StevenLiu:-$
06:50.25StevenLiuwait a moment
06:52.25zeckeStevenLiu: and if dropbear (the sshd daemon) started you can just ssh into your qemu. All you need is a "-net nic -net  user,hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:5556-:22 "
06:54.15StevenLiuOK
06:54.17StevenLiutry it
07:09.09StevenLiuhi holger
07:09.35StevenLiumannualy start x succeed
07:10.30zeckeStevenLiu: if you start it with the start script? I don't know the name but look in /etc/init.d
07:13.48StevenLiuif not added the option -net nic -net  user,hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:5556-:22
07:13.52StevenLiustart faild
07:14.06StevenLiubut if added this option ,start succeed
07:14.15StevenLiuand x start OK
07:14.36StevenLiui will dig it
07:14.46StevenLiuthank u for today's help
07:15.59zeckeStevenLiu: the -net part is a red herring
07:17.43StevenLiuen
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07:30.48etalvalahey, does anyone here know anything about the QTE SDK, and how it's supposed to be used?
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08:13.14thebohemianhi all
08:13.33thebohemianhaven't we had gdb-native recipes once upon a time?
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08:15.28thebohemianIOW if I add a gdb-native 7.0 recipe would someone be against that?
08:17.37zeckethebohemian: -native? not gdb-cross?
08:17.58thebohemianhi holger, happy new year! :)
08:18.06zeckethebohemian: happy new year.
08:18.27zeckethebohemian: Do you really want to debug your native binaries with gdb-native?
08:18.27thebohemianzecke: no really, I want to debug a binary made from a *-native recipe
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08:18.42zeckethebohemian: okay, then add it :)
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08:20.25thebohemianbtw. that looks strange to me:
08:20.25thebohemianDEPENDS = "ncurses-native"
08:20.25thebohemianEXTRA_OECONF = "--with-curses --with-readline"
08:20.31thebohemianit is from gdb-cross.inc
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08:20.50thebohemianthere should be an explicit DEPENDS for readline-native, right?
08:23.06zeckethebohemian: can't hurt
08:24.03thebohemianbummer!
08:24.04thebohemianCannot find new threads: generic error
08:24.48thebohemianzecke: I am trying to debug something that lt_dlopens a library and I need to set a breakpoint on a function in that library
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08:27.16thebohemianzecke: congrats to your FSF copyright assignments :)
08:28.02thebohemianzecke: I have one for gcj and classpath
08:29.01thebohemianbtw. is it a known bug that "bitbake -c rebuild anything" does not do what it did once?
08:29.57thebohemianI need to manually "bitbake -c clean anything && bitbake anything" to achieve what rebuild once did
08:32.01zeckethebohemian: I think it is known
08:33.05mckoangood morning (HNY)
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08:56.42hrwmorning
08:57.02hrwyes, HNY
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09:16.06CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5c9bd88342 10openembedded.git/recipes/mythtv/mythtv_0.22.bb: mythtv: recommend a gui and menu theme for mythfrontend
09:16.16CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7e384693bd 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xf86-video-omapfb: tweak patch
09:16.27CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6fb8200b00 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: rebuild opkg-native at the start of each run
09:16.32CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3aaa12394e 10openembedded.git/ (4 files in 3 dirs): elfutils: add 0.143
09:16.37CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcbfc3ec5d3 10openembedded.git/recipes/gpsd/ (gpsd.inc gpsd_2.38.bb): gpsd: move gpsd-conf to RRECOMMENDS since it's machine specific and not really needed on most machines
09:16.51CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r76ea847c15 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/tangogps/tangogps_0.99.2.bb): tangogps: add 0.99.2
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09:28.40JaMathebohemian: it seems it does "-f -c compile && -c build" now
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09:33.46pb__thebohemian: heh, what lame distribution do you use that doesn't provide gdb?
09:33.48pb__mickey|office: good morning
09:34.08thebohemianpb__: it has gdb, albeit 6.8 and I wanted 7.0
09:34.19pb__ah, fair enough
09:39.19mickey|officegood morning pb
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09:51.32StevenLiuhi holger
09:51.44StevenLiuI hava change runlevel to 1
09:51.52StevenLiuand start the image
09:52.13StevenLiuand i got the error No space left on device
09:53.05StevenLiuso how to change device space? did u know?
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10:02.10CIA-5403Dirk Opfer <dirk@opfer-online.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd0da9229dc 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-sdk-bare.bb: task-sdk-bare: define LIBC_PKGS for for gnuspe toolchain
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10:14.25CIA-5403Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra66595deff 10openembedded.git/recipes/libsdl/libsdl-native.inc:
10:14.28CIA-54Revert "libsdl-native: Build with the X11 backend"
10:14.30CIA-54If you have localegen enabled a dependency loop gets triggered. Holger asked me to revert this till a proper fix emerges
10:14.33CIA-54This reverts commit f017581d074adb0d88312939dafdb9fa74b0b494.
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11:20.28pb_mickey|office: are you planning to go to FOSDEM this year?  I'm just trying to make my mind up whether it is worthwhile for me to attend or not.
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11:37.56RPmorning all
11:38.06pb_hi rp
11:38.53RPis wondering if ignoring as much email as possible over xmas was the best idea :/
11:38.55XorAhi RP
11:39.22RPThe house rebuilding project did move fowards at least I guess...
11:39.55pb_very good.  that's more than I can say, although I did manage to get a little bit of plastering done.
11:41.56RPis hoping the TSC can get moving now the holidays are out the way...
11:42.04HrwwI painted part of basement floor with very stinky stuff - still waiting for it to be not wet
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11:46.57RPI put a new floor down, fitted parts of the shower, painted walls and ceilings with several coats of paint, did some plumbing pipework and then half tiled some of the walls. The tiling is not quite finished yet :/
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11:47.39XorARP: hopefully I inject some urgency by being out of country
11:51.17RPXorA: yes, I just replied
11:51.45RPXorA: I'm also probably not available next week actually :/
11:52.11RPloves how determistic his life is :/
11:52.42XorARP: room is setup, just need some jabber ids
11:53.51RPXorA: mine already sent :)
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12:31.23pb_RP: yeah, it would be great to have the TSC actually functioning
12:32.29pb_zecke: how's your django at the moment?
12:34.25ant_workpb_: what about fixing that couple of QA about .so in dev - mostly plugins- which would pollute the new virgin tinderbox/oestats?
12:35.04ant_worka.k.a libopieobex0, libgtkstylus, libpcre
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12:35.26ant_workhi woglinde
12:35.44woglindejo ant
12:35.48zeckepb_: I'm waiting for Laibsch, I have packages to test with
12:36.07zeckepb_: oh, actually, I need to test them first... but I think I would be mostly ready...
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12:46.40ant_workpb_: ah, while RP and zecke are here, someone could explain the double definiton of vercmp in bitbake?
12:47.10ant_workI just need to compare against a "2.6.32+2.6.33-rc2" PV
12:52.20RPant_work: double definition?
12:52.39woglindehi RP
12:52.48ant_workin ___init and utils.py
12:53.06ant_workI try to use base_version_less_or_equal
12:53.09woglindeRP is BBCLASSEXTEND now cable to handle sdk packages too?
12:54.06RPant_work: hmm, that is bad. I'd say use the utils one
12:54.19RPwoglinde: it handles nativesdk which is what we should be moving too
12:54.30woglindehm?
12:54.36RPwoglinde: sdk could in theory be supported but never seemed worth the effort
12:55.05woglindeI would like start to convert some packages
12:55.13woglindewanted started with zlib
12:55.31RPwoglinde: nativesdk is the replacement for sdk which builds a proper cross toolchain to build the sdk so BUILD != SDK and you can for example build a 32 bit sdk on a 64 bit machine
12:55.48RPwoglinde: Just add BBCLASSEXTEND = "nativesdk" to zlib like poky has
12:55.56woglindeah
12:55.58woglindeokay
12:56.04woglindecool
12:56.14woglindedid you convert all packages in poky now?
12:56.18RPwoglinde: yes
12:56.25woglindeoha
12:56.43woglindeany plans to push all stuff to oe-dev?
12:56.46RPwoglinde: and I synced the classes with OE, so its just the recipes that need tweaking
12:56.51ant_workRP: base_version_less_or_equal in base.bbclass uses bb.vercmp thus fails out with such PV
12:57.06RPant_work: ick :/
12:57.24RPant_work: someone should compare those functions and figure out which one should be removed
12:57.26woglindeRP yeah I meant for recipes
12:58.09ant_workRP: I don't volunteer! I just hacked a bit http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=e4755f888383ab9850a49926f0997ea232fb6b96
12:58.22woglindehm I sill need to fix the gettext.bbclass
12:58.26ant_workperhaps mickey| who added the utils.py?
12:59.16woglinderp hm you still use autotools_stage on poky?
13:04.44pb_ant_work: yes, it would be nice to fix those.  patches are welcome :-)
13:06.26woglindehm is there a way to get if autotools class was inherit?
13:07.27pb_zecke: okay, very good
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13:07.56pb_maybe one of our other lovely admins could install your packages if laibsch is out of actio
13:07.56pb_n
13:08.07ant_workpb_: the point is some are plugins and I don't really understand how these are necessary for other linkings...
13:08.36ant_workthe guideline should be as done in klibc  http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=3e9bb4f23c205dde9ab1b042b4bfc2c1b5fe8243
13:08.39XorAhmmm, I think it is likely I wont work out my jabber mistake until too late to hold meeting :-(]
13:08.41ant_workI suppose
13:08.58pb_XorA: maybe you should fall back on old technology and just hold the meeting by telephone
13:09.28pb_ant_work: it's just a case of disabling the QA check for those plugin packages
13:09.29XorApb_: would work apart from me being in the middle of a Dark Heresy game at time of meeting :-D
13:09.42ant_workpb_: just INSANE_SKIP ?
13:09.55pb_ant_work: well, ideally just disable the one check that is causing a problem
13:10.35pb_for libgtkstylus, at least.  I suspect that libpcre really is broken and the package itself should be fixed.
13:10.52pb_no idea what the issue is with libopieopieopieopieobex0, I guess we'd need some opie hacker to look at that one.
13:11.12ant_workseems is opie plugin
13:11.24ant_workthough named lib*
13:11.53pb_yeah, could well be.  I just don't know anything about it.
13:11.56ant_workas libgtkstylus...
13:12.14ant_workas you once told me
13:12.26pb_I'll have a quick look at pcre now
13:12.41ant_workyea, that's the beast ;)
13:12.55XorAahah, seems to be working as dns propagates around the world
13:15.54zeckepb_: I do have root access to the machine in question
13:16.27pb_zecke: ah, splendid
13:17.43zeckepb_: somehow my netfilter is outsmarting me... :(
13:17.47ant_workXorA: can you guess offghand why we seems to loose kernel CONFIG_LOGO with 2.6.3x? Can be a machine-specific problem? Same w100fb as in 2.6.26.
13:18.47ant_workXorA: I see the cursor blinking so console fb is activated, but no logo in background
13:19.13XorAant_work: nope
13:19.50ant_workI'll try with pxa fb...peraps missing some initialization now
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13:39.35RPwoglinde: autotools_stage is really a null op
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13:39.49RPwoglinde: pending removal when we just accept its the default
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13:40.37woglindehm I should take over the gettext simplification from poky
13:41.15RPwoglinde: feel free :)
13:41.42RPwoglinde: I was quite pleased to reduce that recipe substancially
13:41.59RP(finding the right make target was the key part iirc
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13:44.36woglinderp 9PROVIDES_virtclass-native = "" works on oe too?
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13:59.21RPwoglinde: should do, yes
14:01.07RPhttp://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/?h=rpurdie/work-in-progress has some changes I'd started porting too
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14:07.41eFfeMRP, did you see my email titled "qmake issue"? I feel this is an undesired side effect of the new staging
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14:30.08Aditya11anyone know why bitbake xfce-image would produce an image that just shows a console on the output ?
14:30.20Aditya11tried running startx
14:30.23Aditya11but htat doesn't exist
14:31.10mckoanAditya11: looks like xfce-image is broken, which machine are you using?
14:31.22Aditya11beagleboard
14:31.33Aditya11is there another way to get xfce into my build?
14:32.12mckoanAditya11: maybe it is an angstrom related question
14:32.26pb_eFfeM: I guess the right way to fix this would be to implement per-package staging construction. :-)
14:32.30Aditya11hmmm k
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14:37.06eFfeMpb_ the new staging kind-a abandoned per-package staging
14:37.56eFfeMa fix could be to have all -L and -I flags that refer to staging at the end of the command line (after -I and -L flags from the project makefile)
14:38.15pb_eFfeM: what do you mean by "abandoned per-package staging"?
14:39.17eFfeMpb_ with the new staging if I do not have a do_stage() the recipe does an install to staging (at least that is my understanding of what happens)
14:39.44eFfeMso basically everything is put in staging
14:39.47eFfeMcorrect ?
14:40.08pb_yes, that's correct.
14:40.21pb_that's not quite what I meant by per-package staging construction though.
14:40.28eFfeMah ok, explain yourself
14:41.18pb_basically, rather than having a single, shared staging directory, the idea would be to construct a separate staging area for each package build, containing only the files of the packages that are named in DEPENDS.
14:41.41eFfeMpb_ that would be cool
14:41.51pb_this would: (a) make missing DEPENDS obvious, since they wouldn't be masked by previous installations; (b) avoid the problem you are having of things being unexpectedly found in staging; and (c) avoid problems when different packages have conflicting DEPENDS
14:42.25eFfeMyou might want the transitive closure of the DEPENDS though (otherwise you need to know what other libs are dragged in by a lib that you DEPEND on
14:42.26pb_oh, and (d), solve the gcc/gcc-initial rebuild disaster that we have at the moment
14:43.06pb_I think the transitive closure of the DEPENDS would be handled by the RDEPENDS-equivalent on the staging packages.  This whole thing only really works if you have packaged staging anyway.
14:44.02pb_You wouldn't (I think) want precisely the transitive closure of the DEPENDS, since in many cases a library has extra build-time dependencies (obvious examples being tools like bison or flex) that are not required for its users.
14:44.34eFfeMwould it also solve the following: if I have a recipe that depends on a specific version and for some reason someone has build a newer version (for another package or because he was testing something) currently the new version is used if it exists?
14:44.43pb_yes, it would also solve that problem
14:44.47eFfeMcool
14:45.54pb_and the related problem, where one package (accidentally or deliberately) damages or overwrites the files that another has installed into staging.
14:45.56eFfeMguess indeed we want transitive closure of RDEPENDS but currently lots of recipes do not have an RDEPENDS, defaulting RDEPENDS (again if I understood correctly) to DEPENDS
14:46.37pb_RDEPENDS is figured out automatically by the shlibs code in most cases.
14:46.48eFfeMah ok, never dug into that
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14:47.49eFfeMso the problem now moves to per package staging. not too sure how we can do that in an efficient way (both time and space wise)
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14:49.29pb_I don't think the space should be too much of a problem.  The space requirements are O(BB_NUMBER_THREADS), and each individual staging directory would be smaller than what we have now.
14:50.03pb_So, for someone with just a single thread (which is the default configuration) it should actually be a win in terms of space.  For folks with large numbers of threads it will use more, but not so much that I think it will cause any serious grief.
14:51.07eFfeMpb_ do you assume to have links or so, I can imagine everyone has glibc in staging (and the C headers etc)
14:52.17pb_dunno.  I don't expect it will be much faster to create symlinks than to unpack the actual files, and folks might want to be able to parallel-build against different versions of glibc.
14:52.34pb_That would probably be something that you'd need to benchmark to see if it was actually a noticeable win.
14:53.58XorAmickey|office: whats your jabber address?
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14:55.35kergothmorning
14:55.41pb_yo kergoth
14:55.49eFfeMohey
14:57.08kergothman, after 2 weeks off, gonna take a while to find the groove again..
14:57.12kergothyawns
14:57.29pb_heh
14:58.21mckoankergoth: yep, that's a real problem here too ;-)
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15:00.14XorAkergoth: catch up on the TSC emails first please :-D
15:01.11kergothI glanced at them briefly, i don't really care what mechanism is used, jabber, irc, whatever.. and time, just about anything works for me, i irc from home and work, and arguably the tsc could be considered part of my job, given our use of bitbake, so..
15:01.25kergothoh, yow, new thread..
15:01.35kergothwait, no, just lots more to read..
15:01.36kergothsheesh
15:01.38kergoth:)
15:02.02XorARP: suggested a time in approx 5 hours
15:02.08Aditya11anyone have any ideas about the xfce-image? or possible ways to debug it?
15:02.14XorAIve setup a jabber conference
15:02.22kergotharg, lots of work mail to catch up on too, oddly, considering just about the entire company was shut down for the 2 weeks..
15:02.25XorAjust need an id to add to it
15:02.32kergothglances at his calendar
15:02.42Crofton|workyes it is Jan 4
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15:03.29broonieTime flies when you're having fun :P
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15:03.54XorAso thats why Hogmany seems so short
15:16.17kergoth's stuck doing jury duty tomorrow.. never done that, not particularly looking forward to it
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15:28.14mckoankgilmer: achemashite omedeto
15:30.10kergothmulls over maybe switching to contract work / consulting rather than full time at some point
15:30.42kgilmermckoan, happy new year to you too!
15:31.24kgilmerkergoth, day job got you down?  i know how you feel :)
15:31.51kergothday job is okay, but no telling how things will go after the buyout, and would be nice to have some more flexibility in the schedule
15:32.32brooniebuyout?
15:33.28kgilmerah, yeah flexibility would be nice.  i would like to head south when the weather is so cold.
15:33.49kergothbroonie: montavista software was purchased by cavium networks
15:34.56B_LizzardNobody likes nethack :*
15:34.57B_Lizzard:(
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15:36.25brooniekergoth: Ah, hadn't noticed that.
15:38.42zeckepb_: omg, I'm so stupid... apparently we have a waterfall
15:39.17kgilmerCrofton|work, , how's it looking for you in Brussels next month?
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15:40.00eFfeMB_Lizzard: nethack was fun, but for me it was fun in 1985 or so
15:40.17eFfeMstill remembers rogue and rogomatic a program to automatically play rogue)
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15:40.48B_Lizzard:D
15:41.28kergothhmm, anyone object to my splitting e2fsprogs-libs.inc & util-linux-ng.inc up, so the move of the libs from the former to the latter is only done for newer versions of them?  MVL6 has to keep around the old versions indefinitely
15:44.43woglindezecke waterfall?
15:46.26Hrwwkgilmer: lot of them
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15:53.33GNUtoohi, I want to add eeepc 701 support so I made a kernel .config and bitbaken the kenrel and package-index....and it created no modules at all...
15:54.06GNUtooI'll try to debug that
15:54.55GNUtoommm the defconfig is strange
15:56.24GNUtoommm linux/defconfig was included
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15:56.53GNUtooinstead of linux-2.6.32/eee701/defconfig
15:57.01woglindehi rkirti
15:57.15RPmickey|office, mickey|zzZZzz: Any chance you can make a TSC meeting today?
15:57.50rkirtihello woglinde
15:59.01GNUtooand it bitbaken .32
15:59.07GNUtooand .32 had file://defconfig
15:59.09GNUtoostrange...
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16:17.18Aditya1aaanyone know why xfce-image would just give me a console instead of X?
16:22.50Aditya1nm, xinit wasn't installed for some reason
16:23.47mckoanAditya1: I'm afraid the problem is wider that it seems at first sight, BTW add xinit to the recipe then
16:24.11Aditya1problem is.. "wider"?
16:26.05mckoanIMAGE_INSTALL = "${X_RDEPENDS} ${XFCE_RDEPENDS} xinit"
16:27.03GNUtooAditya1, startxfce4
16:27.14Aditya1GNUtoo: thats what I did
16:27.18GNUtoook
16:27.20Aditya1and fouidn that xinit wasn;t install
16:27.22Aditya1installed*
16:27.25GNUtooI've the xinit problem too
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16:27.40Aditya1mckoan: is this going to be pushed to the oe repo at some point?
16:27.51Aditya1I am just wondering what I should do if I find something broken
16:28.00GNUtooAditya1, xinit didn't compile for me
16:28.07GNUtoos/xinit/xdm
16:28.30mckoanAditya1: GNUtoo has a better experience with xfce than me
16:28.55GNUtooindeed I run it on an eeepc 701
16:29.17GNUtoobut as there were to many things to fix I couldn't fix all things at once
16:29.23GNUtooso I hacked arround some things
16:29.26GNUtoofixed some other
16:29.32GNUtooand some unfixed things remained
16:29.52GNUtoobtw any hint on why it didn't took my defconfig?
16:29.53pb___ibot, botmail for zecke; doh, we do?
16:30.33Aditya1I might stick with enlightenment
16:30.36Aditya1just dont want opie
16:31.15GNUtooAditya1, startxfce4 doesn't work?
16:31.16GNUtooas root?
16:31.26GNUtooI know it's a problem to run as root....
16:31.27Aditya1hmm? no xfce works
16:31.46Aditya1enlightenment seems like it runs a little nicer though
16:31.55Aditya1also, since you use xfce, do you know what ht eterminal app is?
16:32.00Aditya1I tried xterm but thats not it
16:32.05GNUtooterminal I think
16:32.16GNUtooyes that's it
16:32.21GNUtooalt+F2
16:32.23GNUtooterminal
16:32.39GNUtoobasically I run xfce+oe for 2 reasons:
16:32.43GNUtoo*space issues
16:32.55GNUtoo*flash saving
16:33.01GNUtoos/oe/angstrom/
16:33.15Aditya1xfce takes less space than the rest?
16:33.18GNUtoobecause for instance the logs are on a ram filesystem
16:33.26Aditya1I thought englightenment was the lightest
16:33.27GNUtooI had a base image that took about 300M
16:33.32GNUtooI don't know
16:33.37GNUtoobut you can try both
16:33.47GNUtoowhat's your device?
16:33.50GNUtootouchbook?
16:34.09GNUtooah no gumstics
16:34.22GNUtooa beagle-board like gumstics then
16:34.31Aditya1using beagleboard right now
16:34.34GNUtoook
16:34.36Aditya1but also have a gumstix overo fire
16:34.46Aditya1going to start that up once I get a build working for the bb
16:34.48GNUtooI looked at the channel you were connected to
16:34.56Aditya1ah heh
16:34.57Crofton|workany thoughts on how to get the source dir for a git recipe to keep the .git directory?
16:35.01GNUtoook, are 256M enough?
16:35.32Aditya1hmm?
16:35.40GNUtoobecause I am evaluating the fact of buying a touchbook as my main laptop
16:35.51GNUtooheavy work would be done from ssh
16:36.01Aditya1I dont really know hwa ta touchbook is so :P
16:36.06Aditya1also ternimal didn't work
16:36.09Aditya1maybe I have to isntall it
16:36.49GNUtooa beagle board in a netbook form
16:37.42GNUtooAditya1, xfce-terminal is the package
16:38.08Aditya1oh
16:38.11Aditya1I just installed xterm
16:38.13Aditya1works fine
16:38.25GNUtooterminal is nicer tough
16:38.58GNUtooit's like the gnome-terminal
16:40.00mckoanAditya1: how did you install xterm?
16:40.13Aditya1using opkg
16:40.23Aditya1opkg install xterm
16:40.32Aditya1it was on teh angstrom feed
16:47.21mckoanhave a nice rest of the day
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16:50.39GNUtooso any idea for a way to debug the defconfig
16:50.40GNUtoo?
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16:53.12GNUtooP->linux-2.6.32 ; SRC_URI contains file://defconfig and then my defconfig is at oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.32/eee701/defconfig
16:54.19GNUtoopeek linux MACHINE => eee701
16:54.25GNUtooso it should be overriden
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16:55.36GNUtoopeek linux OVERRIDES=>local:eee701:angstrom:linux:i686:build-linux:fail-fast:pn-linux:i686:Unknown:libc-glibc
16:55.42GNUtooso it's in overrides
16:56.00kergothbitbake's version specific dependency stuff really needs to be revisited at some point
16:56.02kergothhrm
16:56.56GNUtoobasically it takes this : linux/defconfig instead of this:  linux-2.6.32/eee701/defconfig
16:57.33kergothdo a peek linux FILESPATH
16:58.03woglindeyeah bitbake -i
16:58.06GNUtoohttp://pastebin.com/m8ad04d0
16:58.32GNUtoostrange...
16:58.37GNUtooI'll check the files names
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16:59.09GNUtoo~/oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.32/eee701 $ ls => defconfig
17:00.12GNUtoofile://defconfig
17:00.14GNUtoosounds ok
17:00.49kergothI'd verify assumptions.  diff the WORKDIR defconfig against eee701/defconfig
17:01.56GNUtooI did md5sum
17:02.05GNUtooah ok
17:02.07GNUtoounderstood
17:02.14GNUtoobut md5sum found it
17:02.24GNUtooyou meant that the recipe seded the config
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17:03.11GNUtooI did that:
17:03.33GNUtoo~/oetmp/work/eee701-angstrom-linux/linux-2.6.32-r3 $ md5sum defconfig  => 322ec58a067d338b8354bd4d12fa5426  defconfig
17:03.36kergothright, you're saying its not pulling the eee701 defconfig, so make absolutely certain that's actually the case, since everything seems to be correct
17:03.47kergothbitbake -c clean linux; bitbake -c unpack linux; then diff.
17:03.51kergothgets caffeine
17:04.13GNUtoofind -type f | grep defconfig$ | xargs md5sum | grep 322ec58a067d338b8354bd4d12fa5426 => 322ec58a067d338b8354bd4d12fa5426  ./linux/defconfig
17:04.26GNUtoook
17:04.27GNUtoothanks
17:06.07GNUtoook cleaned and ~/oetmp/work/eee701-angstrom-linux/linux-2.6.32-r3 is not here anymore...now unpacking
17:06.53GNUtooNOTE: removing /home/embedded/oetmp_eeepc701/stamps/eee701-angstrom-linux/linux-2.6.32-r3.*
17:07.42GNUtooNOTE: Unpacking defconfig to /home/embedded/oetmp_eeepc701/work/eee701-angstrom-linux/linux-2.6.32-r3/
17:07.45GNUtooI'll look
17:08.07GNUtooha...now it seem ok
17:08.10GNUtoostrange strange
17:08.15GNUtoomaybe that occured:
17:08.31GNUtoobitbake linux-2.6.32
17:08.40GNUtoobefore copying the defconfig
17:08.48GNUtooelse I don't see other explanations
17:09.31GNUtoothanks a lot!!!!
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17:10.43kergothheh, np :)
17:11.08kergothwhenever something seems completely insane, usually a good idea to go back and make sure things are what you think they are.. often they're not :)
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17:13.05GNUtooindeed I understood
17:13.10GNUtoo-c unpack
17:13.14GNUtoomake xconfig
17:13.43GNUtoocp .config .../linux-2.6.32/eee701/defconfig
17:13.56GNUtoobitbake linux
17:13.59GNUtooand boom
17:14.09GNUtoothat's what I did
17:14.12GNUtoonow I understand
17:14.16GNUtoolol
17:14.42GNUtoothanks a lot for the advise
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17:15.27GNUtoobtw for the config I have configured many things as modules....I hope it's fine
17:15.35GNUtoosuch as synaptics or mouse
17:15.50GNUtoobut not the ata_piix or the filesystem or the video
17:19.20kergothshould be fine, as far as i know.  if not, its a bug that should be fixed, so either way its good.. :)
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17:27.38Aditya1is e-image = image with enlightenment?
17:28.05woglindeAditya1 yes
17:30.02Aditya1hmm cool
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17:41.11eFfeMRP "If packaged staging is enabled this should happen already..." how do I do that ?
17:42.11XorAeFfeM: in Angstrom it is
17:44.29Hrwwbye
17:44.41eFfeMhm
17:45.48woglindejo effem
17:45.53eFfeMhi woglinde
17:46.47eFfeMi did a full rebuild on dec 30 with mythtv 0.22, then yesterday I pulled the head again and rebuild mythtv still it got linked with the old mythtvlib
17:47.05eFfeMno idea why; if I understand RP's email correctly this should not happen....
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17:50.02Aditya1running task 2733 / 8132
17:50.05Aditya1* sigh *
17:52.30eFfeMreboot, biab
17:53.06woglindeAditya1 *g*
17:53.15woglindethe wonder of gstreamer
17:53.52Aditya1*g* -- ?
17:54.09woglinde*grin*
17:54.15Aditya1pssh
17:54.17Aditya1bastard
17:54.32Aditya1I figured x11-image and e-image would have most things in common
17:54.35Aditya1but apparently no
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17:56.01eFfeMre
17:56.53woglindere effem
18:05.47woglindehm its irrelevant
18:05.54woglindeyou need online mode anyway
18:06.08woglindesince yesterday I know why
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18:42.37like2wisegm
18:42.45eFfeMlike2wise: hi
18:43.57Joel___I seemed to hit a problem of webkit oe_runmake failed. I goto an error "QPixmap: No such file or directory". Any idea would be greatly appreciated.
18:44.11like2wisehi eFfeM
18:44.29like2wiseeFfeM: managed to get the e500 toolchain working again?
18:44.43CIA-5403Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1c3976fffb 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libnl2: bump git revision and fix pc file so that it actually links to the support libraries
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18:58.12eFfeMlike2wise: didn't have time to peek at e500 yet, forgot to take my local tmp dir with me, the version with the last-known-good rev builds nicely
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19:02.52like2wiseeFfeM: if you can send me that revision, maybe I can compare with current. No promises :-)
19:29.09eFfeMlike2wise: PM
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20:39.15Aditya11now that shit works, vbox decides to break the ethernet
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20:51.49cbrakeis bitbake 1.10 advised for production use yet?
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20:52.46woglindecbrake hm it works
20:52.52eFfeMdang, as a test I added the boot logo to my config using bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel, then copied the .config to defconfig in the kernel recipe dir, when I rebuild from scratch still logo is turned off (angstrom)
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21:04.16CIA-5403Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rce429665d4 10openembedded.git/recipes/binutils/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
21:04.22CIA-54binutils-2.20: Fix cross native build when using same version on build
21:04.33CIA-54machine.
21:04.38CIA-54Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>
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21:23.57kergothgod i hate world builds
21:24.09kergotheven in a much much tinier set of recipes, still takes too damn long :)
21:24.41woglindekergoth *g*
21:24.41khemnever got past missing dependency checks
21:25.21kergoththe one I'm doing is only 5500 tasks, but also have another build in the background.. heh
21:26.03pb___heh
21:26.11pb___hands kergoth a better computer
21:26.28kergothheh, thatd be nice
21:26.37kergoththis box has a 160gb drive
21:26.43kergothevery other build i get to wipe tmp whether i want to or not :)
21:26.50pb___doh, that's no good
21:27.33pb___I just installed a new 500GB drive in my desktop yesterday, reconfigured the old 80GB ones as a 160G raid0 array to put my tmpdirs on.
21:27.43kergothnice
21:28.06pb___and, as an added bonus, I managed to fix my non-booting debian problem.  so I no longer need to netboot grub and then use the rescue console to boot linux.
21:35.40kgilmeri got a core i7 and a samsung 256Gb SSD.  Our build takes about 50 mins now from scratch.
21:35.50kgilmeron an 8 core xeon it took 2.5 hrs
21:36.05kgilmerwe don't build world tho
21:38.49woglindepb___ how do you get 160G out of 80G?
21:39.54khemput two of 80G drives :)
21:40.19woglindeah ones
21:43.14pb___yeah, what khem said
21:44.03pb___actually, I seem to have ended up with a 130G array in the end.  the two drives are 80 marketing gigabytes, which seems to mean about 75 real gigabytes, and I used 10G from each one for swap.  so 2x65=130 for my build directories.
21:44.58khemI have 80G right now and disk utility tells me that its dying soon
21:48.26pb___kergoth: heh, I see you have passed the milestone of a year since your last blog entry
21:48.51Aditya1do any of you guys live close to each other?
21:49.32like2wiseyes I do :-)
21:49.44Aditya1cool
21:50.14like2wisejust kidding, most user seem .eu and us based AFAIC
21:50.17like2wiseC=K
21:50.23Aditya1ah
21:50.27Aditya1yah from maryland here
21:50.33Aditya1good ol boring maryland heh
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21:53.19khemlike2wise: you were having some discussion around e500 toolchain is there any issue ?
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21:54.19alexondi_hello! can anybody help me with bitbake?
21:54.58alexondi_I need download only all source for building later on other machine. Can I do this?
21:56.25woglindeyes
21:56.34woglindebut libgsm vanished
21:58.38khemalexondi_: you could use bitbake fetchall
21:59.17khemalexondi_: for using same srcs on different build machines you might put the source on a shared network drive
21:59.35alexondi_"bitbake fetchall heloworld-image" right?
21:59.42khemyeah
21:59.56alexondi_thank you very much!
22:00.29khemand define DL_DIR to point to this location on every machines local.conf
22:01.18alexondi_yes I do this already
22:03.47alexondi_"bitbake -c fetchall heloworld-image" - worked :)
22:05.29Aditya1NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:
22:05.29Aditya1NOTE:   /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so  
22:05.34alexondi_how can I create  local.conf for linux x86_64?
22:05.38Aditya1anyone know what that means?
22:06.33pb___Aditya1: pretty much what it says: the recipe installed a file named /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so but it didn't match any of the FILES.
22:07.33pb___if you don't need or want /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so on your target system then it is fairly safe to just ignore that note.
22:08.22Aditya1I am going to follow my earlier procedure and just keep rerunning bitbake lol
22:08.32Aditya1it seemed to solve most of these random package/staging issues
22:11.54pb___that's not an error, it doesn't really need to be "solved".
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22:12.32pb___if you run bitbake again then you won't get the message again, but that's just because the package in question has already been built.  it doesn't mean that something has magically worked better the second time.
22:15.37Aditya1heh
22:15.43Aditya1well here's something better
22:16.03Aditya1http://pastebin.com/m6ea2d94b
22:16.59Aditya1( building e-image )
22:20.56pb___that means that you have either a broken recipe, or an image/distro configuration problem.
22:21.23pb___despite the large "ERROR", it isn't really a serious error and personally I would ignore that kind of thing so long as the end result looks correct.
22:21.24Aditya1hmm
22:21.34Aditya1it stops bitbake
22:21.51pb___oh, does it?  I don't think it used to do that for me.
22:21.56pb___in that case I guess you do need to fix it. :-}
22:21.59Aditya1I was able to build console-image, x11-image
22:23.00Aditya1oh wait
22:23.03Aditya1that wasn't what fialed
22:23.20Aditya1it was something else right underneath for "distribute sources"
22:25.44khemAditya1: you need to dump the dependency tree (bitbake -g <image>) and see why the recipes are being picked
22:26.05khemmultiple
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22:26.52khempb___: It continues if PREFERRED provider recipes arent found but multiple recipes providing same packages has always been an error IIRC
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22:32.59pb___ah, maybe I just used to always patch my local copy of bitbake to stop that.
22:33.44pb___it's one of bitbake's sillier errors; there is no inherent reason why two packages should be incompatible just because they happen to PROVIDE the same thing.
22:47.38Aditya1so sometimes
22:47.47Aditya1do_unpack tasks fail
22:48.00Aditya1is that just a random error from just untaring the archive?
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22:53.19khemAditya1: it might have to do with your system generally do_unpack should usually work always
22:53.32khemunless there are unknown SRCREVS
22:53.40khemwhich can happen  on rebased git trees
22:53.43pb___probably.  what error do you get?
22:53.43pb___if it's the SIGPIPE thing, there is a patch for that.
22:54.27khempb___: that should be fixed in current bitbake 1.8 onwards though
22:55.21pb___unknown SRCREVs would show up in do_fetch, I think, not do_unpack.
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23:02.27Aditya1sometimes do_fetches fail for me too
23:02.33Aditya1but if I rerun bitbake they go through
23:07.47khempb___: actually for once yes but then it also fails in do_unpack see http://old.nabble.com/bitbake-omap3-desktop-nand-image-fails.-Can%27t-find-u-boot-ti-td26137138.html
23:07.50khemas an example
23:08.30khemhmm thats fetch task though
23:08.39khemits git unpack that confuses
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23:57.36Aditya1* sigh *
23:57.41Aditya1I think my vbox debian is broken
23:57.50robtowMy sympathies.

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