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| 00:07.48 | CoreDump|home | ant__: pong |
| 00:08.06 | ant__ | hi!! |
| 00:08.30 | CoreDump|home | hi there |
| 00:08.59 | ant__ | just to say sometimes the logs of irc are not respecting the table |
| 00:09.07 | ant__ | today happened again |
| 00:09.22 | ant__ | with 2 different browsers |
| 00:09.30 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 00:09.44 | ant__ | well..yesterday in EU |
| 00:10.26 | ant__ | see [20091203 14:02:50] |
| 00:10.31 | ant__ | #oe |
| 00:10.45 | CoreDump|home | ugh |
| 00:12.37 | ant__ | ah..the Nokia browser (E51) doesn't display anything...opera does |
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| 00:13.24 | ant__ | CoreDump|home: great service btw, thx again |
| 00:13.44 | CoreDump|home | you're welcome =) |
| 00:14.45 | ant__ | hm..perhaps the '<' and '>' ? |
| 00:15.47 | ant__ | see [20091203 18:26:43] too |
| 00:21.19 | ant__ | 'nite all |
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| 03:46.40 | grg | mwester, would it be acceptable to add your fork/exec ("gunzip") patch to opkg as an #ifdef, and a configure option, e.g. --no-fork for it? |
| 03:47.02 | grg | are there any other outstanding problems that would prevent you from using an unpatched opkg? |
| 03:47.07 | mwester | Time. |
| 03:47.33 | grg | as in, you don't have time to test? |
| 03:48.12 | mwester | SlugOS is locked down to svn ver 160 of opkg -- we tried a few versions beyond that; they all failed for one reason or another, and tick pretty much indicated he wasn't able to help debug/resolve those at the time, so we locked it down at 160. |
| 03:49.06 | mwester | I have no time to be able to devote to the exhausting task of testing opkg -- there are so very many scenarios that need to be tested, most of which require that I re-image an NSLU2 and start over again and again for the tests (no software simulator exists AFAIK) |
| 03:49.22 | grg | well of course its difficult debugging problems when there is no error checking... |
| 03:49.46 | mwester | So I simply (naively it seems) assumed that I could create that separate recipe, and lock SlugOS down to 160, and happily let the rest of the world go by! :) |
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| 03:51.14 | grg | i would really like to see the default opkg be a low memory usage variant |
| 03:51.28 | mwester | I completely realize that a 32MB machine is not an "interesting" target for anyone in OE, or even (I suspect) for opkg any more... so it is not a great concern to me that we remain behind. I just want the old version to build reliably... :) |
| 03:51.42 | jerm^ | anyone around familiar with the gcc recipes? |
| 03:51.44 | mwester | low memory these days seems to be 1GB or less :D |
| 03:52.02 | grg | i'm targetting a 64mb device |
| 03:52.03 | jerm^ | i'm seeing some qa issues with the target gcc package (4.3.3) |
| 03:53.13 | grg | but running out of memory with do_rootfs on a 1gb ram host was happening for large images |
| 03:53.44 | jerm^ | wow |
| 03:54.05 | grg | who has a 1gb ram host these days anyway? |
| 03:54.11 | grg | (apart from me) |
| 03:55.07 | grg | jerm^, post your QA issues to a pastebin and somebody will probably look at them |
| 03:55.15 | grg | if not, then try the mailing list |
| 03:55.17 | mwester | I have a number of virtual machines I've used for years on company-issues windows laptops while traveling -- 768MB. They used to build SlugOS very nicely during tedious company meetings :) |
| 03:55.36 | rwhitby | is considering moving webos-internals from ipkg to opkg ... |
| 03:57.05 | jerm^ | I am pretty much exclusively restricted to VMs |
| 03:57.13 | mwester | How much RAM does a palm pre have, anyway? |
| 03:57.17 | jerm^ | lol |
| 03:57.40 | rwhitby | mwester: 256MB |
| 03:57.48 | mwester | not too shabby! |
| 03:58.37 | grg | i think that openwrt targets mostly 32mb devices and they've been using opkg for a while |
| 03:59.26 | mwester | But the fork() / OOM Killer issue (the one grg hasn't accepted my patch for) will strike even the Openmoko devices, which have a lot more memory... |
| 04:00.08 | grg | i'm not really convinced that changing fork to vfork will change much |
| 04:00.19 | mwester | And I think that openwrt changes the OOM behavior by default, if I recall correctly -- that dodges the OOM killer to a great extent. |
| 04:00.20 | grg | linux has had copy on write for some time now... |
| 04:00.43 | mwester | grg - you really must read up on the issue, then. |
| 04:00.48 | grg | i did |
| 04:01.05 | jerm^ | does koen ever hang around here? |
| 04:01.06 | mwester | Then, no offense please, but you do not understand what's really happening. |
| 04:01.13 | grg | maybe not |
| 04:01.22 | grg | got some links? |
| 04:01.26 | mwester | copy-on-write does not solve it. |
| 04:01.38 | grg | koen appears to be in a different time zone |
| 04:01.43 | mwester | I will dig through my file on the OOM killer and this issue, and try to come up with some links. |
| 04:02.47 | jerm^ | yeah...he's "across the pond" |
| 04:02.48 | mwester | The fundamental problem, though, is that the OOM killer computes the *total possible* (i.e. most pessimistic) number of pages, not the the most optimistic -- so copy-on-write is meaningless for the default OOM Killer behavior. |
| 04:02.56 | jerm^ | just wondered if he ever hung out in the channel |
| 04:03.21 | jerm^ | he appears to be the most active in the maintenance of the gcc recipes |
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| 04:03.40 | mwester | So the moment a fork() happens, the OOM killer can spring into action, based on nothing but the fact that the sum of all possible VM requirements exceeds the threshold. |
| 04:03.53 | mwester | vfork() exists *only* to solve this problem. |
| 04:03.55 | jerm^ | I was just wondering why, if the soft float libraries are found, those are packaged instead of the hard float |
| 04:04.17 | mwester | if fork() was not an issue, then logically there would be no reason for vfork() to exist. |
| 04:04.28 | grg | well, vfork exists for BSD compatibility |
| 04:04.35 | mwester | No. |
| 04:04.37 | grg | not for OOM killer work arounds |
| 04:04.41 | mwester | wron |
| 04:04.42 | mwester | g |
| 04:04.51 | mwester | #define vfork fork |
| 04:04.58 | mwester | would suffice for bsd (well, almost). |
| 04:05.13 | grg | when was the oom killer introduced? |
| 04:05.38 | mwester | vfork exists despite a number of attempts to remove it because it fills a need -- that need is exactly the issue we are discussing -- the problem that fork() is too heavyweight. |
| 04:06.46 | mwester | Dunno when oom killer came around... it was a sad day, though. |
| 04:06.56 | mwester | http://linux-mm.org/ |
| 04:07.59 | mwester | http://linux-mm.org/OverCommitAccounting <-- useful link for the "sledgehammer" solution to the fork()/vfork() issue. |
| 04:12.52 | mwester | Sigh |
| 04:13.54 | mwester | Why do I feel that despite proving a solution works, and is the only viable one out there, that it still ends up kicked to the curb by those upstream so often? |
| 04:16.53 | jerm^ | :( |
| 04:16.53 | grg | "Any particular process leader may be immunized against the oom killer if the value of its /proc/<pid>/oomadj is set to the constant OOM_DISABLE" |
| 04:17.12 | grg | mwester, im trying to work with you on this one |
| 04:17.21 | mwester | I already did the work. |
| 04:17.26 | mwester | And tested it. |
| 04:17.34 | mwester | And hundreds of users are using it. :) |
| 04:18.01 | grg | so, i should merge it without understanding it? |
| 04:18.09 | mwester | You're trying to get me to do more work, this time in a manner that is more pleasing to you. (you have that right, you are the upstream maintainer - I don't argue that). |
| 04:18.53 | grg | i'm not suggesting that you send me a patch for integration as #ifdef'd code. i will do that |
| 04:18.54 | mwester | I am aware of the "immunization" thing; not sure if that actually worked with opkg or if there was some other issue. |
| 04:19.27 | grg | but i really would prefer having less code paths |
| 04:19.52 | mwester | http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-help/2009-06/msg00035.html <--- middle of thread that pretty much rehashes this same discussion we are having :) |
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| 04:20.49 | mwester | Right, I agree less code paths are good -- so get rid of the system() and fork() stuff altogether; I can't see why that should be ifdef'd or even run-time selected. |
| 04:22.48 | grg | i did get rid of system |
| 04:23.01 | grg | the only fork left is the one for unzip |
| 04:23.17 | grg | which can't be a vfork because its not exec'ing |
| 04:24.02 | grg | one option would be to follow your example and remove all the libbb code. Replacing it to exec("gunzip") |
| 04:24.09 | mwester | right |
| 04:24.40 | grg | let me think about that for a while. removing libbb altogether has its merits |
| 04:26.06 | grg | the other option is to update libbb to a more recent version which doesn't require separation with a fork() |
| 04:26.27 | grg | i've looked at that, and busybox have redesigned things quite a lot |
| 04:27.25 | gregoiregentil | Could anyone pastebin its log.do_compile of boost_1.36.bb? As reported to the mailing list, I don't manage to compile this package and I would like to compare log.do_compile and log.do_configure with a working env. Thanks |
| 04:30.12 | jerm^ | gregoiregentil: i can try |
| 04:30.26 | jerm^ | gregoiregentil: will take me a sec to get that system up |
| 04:30.31 | gregoiregentil | Thanks. I would appreciate. |
| 04:38.11 | jerm^ | gregoiregentil: running...slowly but surely :) |
| 04:38.19 | gregoiregentil | OK ;-) |
| 04:39.20 | jerm^ | i've never used boost before...mostly low level code for me... |
| 04:40.23 | jerm^ | what does the boost-jam native tool do? |
| 04:40.27 | jerm^ | that just completed |
| 04:42.24 | gregoiregentil | The way I understand it: boost-jam is a native tool needed for the compilation of boost. It' the primary tool used during the compilation of boost |
| 04:42.30 | jerm^ | ahh |
| 04:42.38 | jerm^ | i figured as much... |
| 04:43.06 | jerm^ | compile of the target libraries is running...did you want the configure log too? |
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| 04:46.31 | gregoiregentil | yes if possible |
| 05:03.50 | gregoiregentil | jerm^: so did you manage to do it? |
| 05:11.37 | sakoman | gregoiregentil: http://pastebin.com/m15d431b7 |
| 05:11.48 | jerm^ | yep |
| 05:11.48 | jerm^ | :) |
| 05:11.52 | jerm^ | beat me to it |
| 05:11.55 | jerm^ | sorry |
| 05:12.01 | jerm^ | this system is slooooow |
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| 05:12.56 | sakoman | gregoiregentil: this was from a Dec 1 build |
| 05:12.57 | m4t | i see machine/conf/mtx-1.conf has 'PREFERRED_VERSION_yamon'...was there at some time support for building yamon from within oe? |
| 05:13.14 | jerm^ | http://pastebin.com/m6e30c3f6 |
| 05:13.52 | jerm^ | sorry it took so long, just built a few minutes ago...repo updated a few days ago |
| 05:14.02 | jerm^ | hope all of this data helps! |
| 05:17.41 | gregoiregentil | Many thanks to jerm^ and sakoman |
| 05:17.45 | gregoiregentil | I'm comparing now |
| 05:21.34 | gregoiregentil | I still think that there is a problem in the recipe for gcc-4.4.1 (there is a recent patch). My compilation is with gcc-4.4.1 and it's not working. I reported it to the mailing list but nobody replied |
| 05:25.18 | jerm^ | i can try to bump up to 4.4.1 |
| 05:25.26 | jerm^ | what architecture are you running? |
| 05:25.31 | jerm^ | target arch |
| 05:25.38 | gregoiregentil | armv7a |
| 05:26.02 | gregoiregentil | I'm trying with gcc4.3 at the same time |
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| 05:41.43 | jerm^ | gregoiregentil: my build is going to take forever...i gotta run for the night |
| 05:41.51 | jerm^ | want me to send you results via email? |
| 05:43.17 | jerm^ | actually...anyone around that knows the history of the gcc recipes? |
| 05:44.25 | jerm^ | guess not...i'll try again later... :) |
| 05:44.45 | jerm^ | gregoiregentil: if you want, I'll stay connected...pm me your email addr |
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| 06:26.44 | gregoiregentil | in my boost: log_do_compile, I have this: http://pastebin.com/d6a52b29b. Why do I have gcc-4.4.1? Where is calculated the version of gcc? I have 4.3 everywhere so I don't understand |
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| 07:22.56 | CIA-10 | 03Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra5f31b42d1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/shr.conf: |
| 07:22.56 | CIA-10 | shr.conf: set DISTRO_apm = fso-apm |
| 07:22.56 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> |
| 07:22.56 | CIA-10 | 03Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r49d5f70658 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 07:22.56 | CIA-10 | task-base: Introduce DISTRO_apm and convert recipes to use it. |
| 07:23.00 | CIA-10 | * This allows distros to override the apm provider with an DISTRO_apm variable |
| 07:23.02 | CIA-10 | * The change should be transparent and invisible for other distros |
| 07:23.04 | CIA-10 | * This could also be done with a virtual/apm package, and a PREFERED_PROVIDER set to apm |
| 07:23.06 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> |
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| 07:31.58 | CIA-10 | 03Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r80739fde7f 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 07:31.58 | CIA-10 | Revert Introduce DISTRO_apm patch until I get permission |
| 07:31.58 | CIA-10 | * This was committed accidentally |
| 07:31.58 | CIA-10 | * This reverts commit 49d5f70658ab0386bee5869656d0405a6d416e35. |
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| 07:46.39 | mckoan | good morning |
| 07:47.20 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: thanks for adding simone, i have one as well :) |
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| 07:48.40 | Jay7 | morning |
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| 08:04.25 | gregoiregentil | I do confirm at least that classpath-native is broken with gcc-4.4 while it's working with gcc-4.3 |
| 08:07.19 | Jay7 | will propose kexecboot to CELF :) |
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| 08:28.04 | CIA-10 | 03Robert Nelson <robert.nelson@digikey.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8435956a8f 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:28.04 | CIA-10 | linux-omap 2.6.32: mach to plat change for ehci-omap.c |
| 08:28.04 | CIA-10 | drivers/usb/host/ehci-omap.c:40:22: error: mach/usb.h: No such file or directory |
| 08:28.15 | CIA-10 | 03Robert Nelson <robert.nelson@digikey.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r46a9116310 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.32/beagleboard/defconfig: linux-omap 2.6.32: disable CONFIG_CPU_IDLE |
| 08:28.15 | CIA-10 | 03Robert Nelson <robert.nelson@digikey.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9c7c5ce888 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.32/beagleboard/defconfig: linux-omap 2.6.32: enable mmc power, CONFIG_TWL4030_POWER replaces CONFIG_TWL4030_MADC |
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| 08:49.52 | CIA-10 | calc: bump to v 0.0.4. Move to openmoko-3rdparty dir |
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| 09:03.41 | pb_ | mickey|office: good morning |
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| 09:27.10 | ant_work | pb_: morning |
| 09:27.38 | pb_ | hi ant_work |
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| 09:28.37 | woglinde | jo |
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| 09:28.51 | ant_work | moin moin woglinde |
| 09:28.56 | woglinde | he ant |
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| 09:29.38 | ant_work | woglinde: rebuild from scratch fixed that nasty ldap issue... |
| 09:29.46 | woglinde | hm |
| 09:29.50 | woglinde | why? |
| 09:29.59 | ant_work | he |
| 09:30.23 | ant_work | I can't imagine why opkg-cl was linked against libldap.xx |
| 09:30.34 | ant_work | can't yet... |
| 09:30.56 | woglinde | you should have examie config.log |
| 09:31.05 | woglinde | but as some wrote on the ml or here |
| 09:31.08 | woglinde | its wascurl |
| 09:31.10 | woglinde | curl |
| 09:31.13 | ant_work | because of that broken opkg-cl I could not rebuild opkg-native |
| 09:31.45 | ant_work | woglinde: for me is clear what I did: I gor rid of openldap on my Gentoo buildhost |
| 09:31.52 | woglinde | link against curl.la which says you need ldap.la |
| 09:31.54 | ant_work | and that broke opkg-* |
| 09:32.12 | ant_work | ah,ok |
| 09:32.23 | woglinde | abiword now has the similar problem |
| 09:32.27 | woglinde | it drags in libwmf |
| 09:32.39 | woglinde | which is not in oe and then using host system one |
| 09:32.45 | ant_work | argh |
| 09:32.47 | woglinde | 2 ways to solve |
| 09:32.57 | woglinde | disable wmf support or package libwmg |
| 09:33.02 | woglinde | args libwmf |
| 09:33.15 | ant_work | iirc pb_ has a snipped of code for that situations..perhaps was only for auto-tooled recipes? |
| 09:33.22 | woglinde | libwmf is fairly old |
| 09:33.23 | woglinde | http://wvware.sourceforge.net/libwmf.html#news |
| 09:34.11 | ant_work | wow..2002 |
| 09:34.21 | woglinde | yeah |
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| 09:41.08 | woglinde | jo florian |
| 09:44.27 | florian | good morning |
| 09:44.57 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfdcd0cf2ee 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/omap3-pandora.conf: omap3-pandora: Update machine config to define versions of x-load/u-boot to use. |
| 09:44.59 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcbca9b79b7 10openembedded.git/MAINTAINERS: MAINTAINERS: Add myself as omap3-pandora machine maintainer. |
| 09:44.59 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbf3f7a4d6f 10openembedded.git/recipes/x-load/x-load-omap3pandora_git.bb: x-load-omap3pandora: Bump SRCREV to include early start for batt charging. |
| 09:45.00 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r040fed82ad 10openembedded.git/recipes/u-boot/u-boot-omap3pandora_git.bb: u-boot-omap3pandora: Bump GIT SRCREV (USB charge fix) |
| 09:45.03 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf0efa83cf3 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:45.06 | CIA-10 | libsdl: Add 1.2.14 (and native). Note: Does not use libsdl.inc as that has hacks for older SDL versions. |
| 09:45.08 | CIA-10 | * Only tested on the OpenPandora under Angstrom currently. |
| 09:45.10 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd528b9fca9 10openembedded.git/recipes/ttf-fonts/ttf-freefonts_20090104.bb: ttf-freefonts: Add GNU FreeFont (Free UCS Outline Fonts) package. |
| 09:45.13 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcf32e41887 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/ (xf86-input-evdev_2.2.6.bb xf86-input-evdev_2.3.0.bb): xf86-input-evdev: Add 2.2.6 and 2.3.0 (2.3.0 disabled for now). |
| 09:45.22 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rba9ab8c783 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libpng: Add target and native recipes for 1.2.40 with checksums. |
| 09:45.24 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r32acd42a04 10openembedded.git/recipes/tslib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tslib: Add config files for the omap3-pandora. |
| 09:45.29 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc3316cf01d 10openembedded.git/recipes/zsh/zsh_4.3.10.bb: |
| 09:45.32 | CIA-10 | zsh: Add recipe for 4.3.10 (latest upstream). |
| 09:45.34 | CIA-10 | * Checksum was already in OE. |
| 09:45.36 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r29ee333bea 10openembedded.git/recipes/xfce-extras/gigolo_0.3.2.bb: gigolo: Add build and runtime depends on gvfs (without it, the app is not a lot of use). |
| 09:45.46 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7d8f5bda03 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/devilspie/devilspie_0.22.bb): |
| 09:45.49 | CIA-10 | devilspie: Add the devilspie daemon - version 0.22. |
| 09:45.51 | CIA-10 | * devilspie is a small daemon for managing X window behaviour based on rules. |
| 09:45.53 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1df0bde673 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom-2009.X: Bump SDL upto 1.2.14 |
| 09:45.58 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc33a047eed 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/xorg-font-common.inc: xorg-font-common: Update include to deal with newer fonts installed to /usr/share and add INC_PR. |
| 09:46.02 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9112ebc764 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (font-adobe-100dpi_1.0.1.bb font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.1.bb): font-adobe-*dpi: Add 1.0.1 versions of adobe fonts. |
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| 09:46.10 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r303ae98b5f 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (41 files): xorg-font: Add INC_PR to all the Xorg fonts. |
| 09:46.13 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8fce963836 10openembedded.git/recipes/sudo/libgksu_2.0.12.bb: libgksu: Add --disable-gtk-doc to recipe. |
| 09:46.16 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r197b0cb11c 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/font-alias_1.0.2.bb: font-alias: Add 1.0.2 |
| 09:46.21 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf591b28ed9 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (33 files): xorg-font: Add latest versions of the XOrg font packages. |
| 09:46.24 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0c3c0ca02c 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (encodings_1.0.2.bb encodings_1.0.3.bb): encodings: Add latest Xorg font encodings package 1.0.3. |
| 09:46.27 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re18e677774 10openembedded.git/recipes/xchat/xchat_2.8.6.bb: xchat 2.8.6: Drop TCL support from build. |
| 09:46.32 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb5261869ab 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2008-preferred-versions.inc: angstrom-2009.X: Add util-macros 1.3.0 as a pref. version. |
| 09:46.35 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra2a6fd04c5 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-util/util-macros-native_1.3.0.bb: util-macros: Add 1.3.0 native. |
| 09:46.38 | CIA-10 | 03David-John Willis <John.Willis@Distant-earth.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra0fb85891d 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (font-util-native_1.1.1.bb font-util_1.1.1.bb): font-util: Add 1.1.1 target and native. |
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| 10:02.55 | woglinde | ~seen jama |
| 10:02.57 | ibot | jama is currently on #openmoko-cdevel (15h 44m 19s). Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 17m 48s, last said: 'mrmoku: you can.. it should be the same'. |
| 10:03.12 | sgh | Hi |
| 10:03.43 | woglinde | hi sgh |
| 10:03.52 | sgh | Mesa-dri fails to compile. The error starts with this: "../Makefile.template:106: depend: No such file or directory" |
| 10:03.58 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc88bf809f3 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (font-util-native_1.1.1.bb font-util_1.1.1.bb): |
| 10:03.58 | CIA-10 | font-util: Fix cross building, use PKG_CONFIG_PATH in MAPFILES_PATH test |
| 10:03.58 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 10:04.18 | woglinde | sgh mesa 7.4? |
| 10:04.54 | JaMa | woglinde: pong |
| 10:05.08 | sgh | woglinde: yes |
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| 10:05.11 | woglinde | jama how is xorg 7.5 going? |
| 10:05.14 | woglinde | hi esbenh |
| 10:05.26 | JaMa | woglinde: good for gta02 and spitz |
| 10:05.57 | woglinde | did you upgrade all x-packages to versions of xorg 7.5 now? |
| 10:05.59 | JaMa | woglinde: but I have some issues with spitz now.. not sure if its from 1.7.2 but 1.7.3 didn't resolve it now.. |
| 10:06.27 | JaMa | woglinde: yes when xorg-7.5 was announced and then also some upgrades later.. |
| 10:06.56 | woglinde | jama ah by the way as I saw it yesterday |
| 10:07.03 | woglinde | when you do inherit autotools |
| 10:07.14 | woglinde | you dont need an extra do_stage anymore |
| 10:07.49 | JaMa | woglinde: in which package? |
| 10:08.05 | woglinde | hm didnt remember |
| 10:08.35 | woglinde | maybee I will find it with qgit |
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| 10:10.45 | woglinde | hm |
| 10:10.48 | woglinde | cannt find |
| 10:10.57 | woglinde | or it was mrmoku |
| 10:12.07 | JaMa | I haven't add inherit to autotools in same commit as adding do_stage but if it was recipe from someone else and I just pushed it than maybe I wasn't carefull enough to remove it... |
| 10:12.39 | woglinde | ;) |
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| 10:13.58 | woglinde | args |
| 10:14.03 | woglinde | jama please fix 0d7c70004bf85ee59d8ce48d6d83c68b313859bd |
| 10:14.11 | woglinde | that will broke micro |
| 10:14.43 | woglinde | be broken |
| 10:15.32 | spaetz | pb_: compatability-providers.inc sounds ok to me. Although I think it is really something like "default-providers.inc" which sets a default provider that is used unless distros override it... |
| 10:16.02 | JaMa | woglinde: whats broken there? |
| 10:16.20 | Heinervdm | woglinde: how can mokoeightball break sth? |
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| 10:16.48 | spaetz | pb_: as mickey and koen commented on the patch now, are you fine with me committing this now (to fix angstrom) and work towards a default-providers.inc then? |
| 10:17.09 | mrmoku | woglinde: me? |
| 10:18.47 | Heinervdm | spaetz: another posiblillity is to add an shr override to the RPROVIDES |
| 10:19.03 | spaetz | JaMa: what do you think about including default providers in bitbake.conf as koen proposed? |
| 10:19.24 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r99f78d4002 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-font/ (font-util-native_1.0.1.bb font-util_1.0.1.bb): font-util: fix merge damage |
| 10:19.29 | spaetz | Heinervdm: if that works.... I still think virtual/apm might be the best solution |
| 10:19.35 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbcf9669002 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.org:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev |
| 10:19.59 | woglinde | jam installing to /usr stuff |
| 10:20.09 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.09 | Heinervdm | spaetz: yes a virtual is the best solution |
| 10:20.20 | woglinde | Heinervdm I correct me |
| 10:20.24 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rea85fd4e1f 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: efl: bump SRCREV to fix some crashes |
| 10:20.28 | woglinde | it will broken on micro |
| 10:20.52 | Heinervdm | woglinde: ah ok, now i understand, so using $datadir will fix it? |
| 10:22.38 | woglinde | ${datadir} ${bindir} |
| 10:22.40 | woglinde | and so on |
| 10:22.45 | woglinde | dont hardcode paths |
| 10:23.05 | woglinde | but maybee the package it self needs to be told to search other paths |
| 10:24.37 | Heinervdm | woglinde: probably, but that app will never run on another device then the om-gta0{1,2} because it has hardcoded sysfs paths in it |
| 10:27.07 | woglinde | heinervdm whats prevent me to use micro on gta's? |
| 10:27.24 | Heinervdm | woglinde: nothing :) |
| 10:27.50 | woglinde | wouldnt it be better to abstract the sysfs |
| 10:28.02 | woglinde | so it can run on other devices with accels? |
| 10:28.05 | woglinde | like n900 |
| 10:31.28 | Heinervdm | yes, but i think that should do the author |
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| 10:33.06 | pb_ | spaetz: if mickey is happy, I am delighted. so yes, go ahead. |
| 10:33.25 | woglinde | morning pb |
| 10:33.30 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 10:35.04 | JaMa | spaetz: looks good too, but I need to check when is bitbake.conf processed (same problem with weak assignments as with sane-providers but cannot change when bitbake.conf will be included..) |
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| 10:38.40 | woglinde | hi cbrake |
| 10:40.20 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r26396d98ae 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add checksums for newer xorg recipes from xorg-7.5 branch |
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| 10:44.44 | woglinde | hm what was the BBEXTEND status now? |
| 10:44.49 | woglinde | can we use it? |
| 10:45.06 | woglinde | it would simplify x recipes a lot |
| 10:47.04 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r04da0cb263 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: opkg: bump to r446 to make unarchive errors warnings again |
| 10:51.18 | CIA-10 | 03Marco Cavallini <m.cavallini@koansoftware.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3512b7de2d 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini added checksum for wxWidgets-2.8.10 |
| 10:52.51 | hrw | morning |
| 10:53.06 | hrw | mickeyl: good to know. any plans to make something with sim.one? |
| 10:55.35 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 11:00.12 | CIA-10 | 03Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3943c0dac3 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 11:00.12 | CIA-10 | task-base: Introduce DISTRO_APM and convert recipes to use that |
| 11:00.12 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> |
| 11:01.26 | hrw | time to unsubscribe from oe-commits |
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| 11:01.40 | Weaselweb | lol |
| 11:01.59 | hrw | ? |
| 11:02.08 | Weaselweb | nevermind |
| 11:03.29 | Weaselweb | if I do a "bitbake -f -c compile foo" and "bitbake foo" afterwards, wil the previously changed sources get removed, if I inherit "rm_work" in my local.conf? |
| 11:03.50 | woglinde | rm_work will delete it |
| 11:03.56 | woglinde | so be aware |
| 11:04.01 | woglinde | to copy the patch |
| 11:04.08 | woglinde | I ofen enough was biten by this |
| 11:04.39 | Weaselweb | ic, but bitbake foo will create a new ipk? |
| 11:04.43 | hrw | you can add "do_rm_work() { ; }" into recipe to not get it removed |
| 11:05.17 | woglinde | Weaselweb sure but you cannt reproduce it |
| 11:05.25 | Weaselweb | woglinde: yep, that's for sure |
| 11:05.33 | woglinde | without changing source code again |
| 11:06.28 | CIA-10 | 03Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9b1bb99f54 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/fso-apm_git.bb: |
| 11:06.28 | CIA-10 | fso-apm: remove R|PROVIDES=apm |
| 11:06.28 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@SSpaeth.de> |
| 11:07.12 | spaetz | hrw: sorry for the commit noise. |
| 11:07.45 | hrw | spaetz: no problem - I jsut do not have a time to check all commits |
| 11:08.02 | spaetz | heh, I guess so |
| 11:10.34 | mickey|office | hrw: dunno, i didn't think about a usecase yet. what are you going to use it for? |
| 11:10.45 | woglinde | jama ping |
| 11:11.01 | woglinde | jama could you push in xorg 7.5 recipes with default-pref -1? |
| 11:11.12 | woglinde | so we can test it easily against dev |
| 11:12.41 | XorA | woglinde: as I pointed out there is no need for that, you can fix your favourite distro at 7.4 by including 1 or two files |
| 11:13.02 | woglinde | xora no need for 7.5? |
| 11:13.05 | hrw | mickey|office: no use |
| 11:13.16 | XorA | woglinde: no need to make it def_pref -1 |
| 11:13.20 | woglinde | ah |
| 11:13.22 | woglinde | *g* |
| 11:13.28 | hrw | mickey|office: so far I jsut booted it, got 2.6.31 and 2.6.32 booted |
| 11:13.32 | mickey|office | hrw: *nod* oh well, will find something |
| 11:13.51 | XorA | woglinde: just include preferred-xorg-X11R7.4 and X11R4.5udates |
| 11:14.14 | hrw | mickey|office: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/tmp/pic14.jpg |
| 11:14.14 | XorA | 4.5 was supposed to be 7.4 |
| 11:14.37 | woglinde | xora hm yes understand it now |
| 11:14.46 | woglinde | will change micro back |
| 11:14.48 | mickey|office | hrw: nice |
| 11:15.09 | mickey|office | palm pre should be fast enough to run qt |
| 11:15.17 | mickey|office | then again, i love the webos UI |
| 11:15.27 | hrw | mickey|office: next step in UI is making 3 windows instead of 3 columns |
| 11:15.31 | mickey|office | but don't fancy coding w/ web technologies... |
| 11:15.43 | hrw | mickey|office: and finding out how maemo5 icons are named |
| 11:15.46 | broonie | Do you not find it horribly slow? |
| 11:16.03 | mickey|office | no, i find it quite snappy |
| 11:16.04 | broonie | I played with some in shops and they were fairly painful. |
| 11:16.15 | XorA | hopes that webos is at least better than google wave for speed |
| 11:16.15 | broonie | Very long startup times for apps |
| 11:16.24 | hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/tmp/pic15.jpg is desktop ver |
| 11:16.35 | mickey|office | is relative |
| 11:16.43 | mickey|office | compared to the freerunner it's quite snappy |
| 11:16.50 | mickey|office | yes, it's slower than the iphone |
| 11:16.59 | broonie | Compared to the freerunner anything is fast. |
| 11:17.00 | mickey|office | but it's fast enough for my taste |
| 11:17.14 | mickey|office | yep, that's why the FR is a very good development platform |
| 11:17.36 | hrw | if soft is fast on FR then fly on other? |
| 11:17.59 | woglinde | hrw do you use qtdesigner? |
| 11:18.16 | XorA | sometimes I wish QT wasnt so alien |
| 11:18.23 | woglinde | xora? |
| 11:18.40 | hrw | woglinde: yes |
| 11:18.54 | hrw | woglinde: I do not like apps which makes UI in code |
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| 11:19.12 | hrw | woglinde: UI Designer allows me to quickly change UI without touching code |
| 11:19.18 | woglinde | hrw yeah |
| 11:19.25 | woglinde | it rockz |
| 11:19.38 | XorA | woglinde: I find it a wierd sudo language, all that MOC stuff |
| 11:19.40 | woglinde | but it was hard to me to understand the layout concept |
| 11:19.50 | XorA | woglinde: it may be thats died since I last looked at Qt |
| 11:19.55 | woglinde | so resizing was as I wanted |
| 11:20.04 | hrw | woglinde: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2006/04/27/mileage-hires/ |
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| 11:23.13 | woglinde | hm I will cleanup sdl-recipe |
| 11:23.18 | woglinde | its looks so nasty |
| 11:24.31 | hrw | woglinde: layouts are not so bad when properly used |
| 11:26.43 | Weaselweb | the rootfs is build from ipks? |
| 11:27.20 | hrw | yes |
| 11:27.21 | woglinde | weaselweb yes |
| 11:42.45 | sgh | woglinde: sorry. It is mesa-dri-7.0.3 |
| 11:46.24 | JaMa | woglinde: you can test if if you git merge that branch.. I've merged oe.dev few mins ago.. so no conflicts should be there.. |
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| 11:48.05 | JaMa | btw koen bumped EFL_SRCREV.. |
| 11:48.20 | JaMa | and I merged oe.dev to shr.. so hopefully it wont break sth |
| 11:48.28 | JaMa | ahh wrong channel |
| 11:48.42 | JaMa | spaetz: mrmoku: it was for you :) |
| 11:49.16 | Weaselweb | to change the busbyox config i need to modify defconfig in ${WORKDIR}? i guess there is no make menuconfig support for that |
| 11:49.44 | woglinde | right |
| 11:50.09 | mrmoku | JaMa: ok :) |
| 11:50.41 | Weaselweb | are the targets for bitbake (like compile, clean, ...) predefined? or can I extend them on one package? |
| 11:51.03 | woglinde | hm change the config in recipe dir |
| 11:51.24 | woglinde | weaselweb you can extend them |
| 11:51.37 | woglinde | look at the various .bbclass cmake for instance |
| 11:51.52 | woglinde | you can do _append _prepend to each state |
| 11:52.00 | woglinde | too |
| 11:52.27 | Weaselweb | i would add a new command for busybox to create a modified config using menuconfig |
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| 11:54.30 | woglinde | not sure how ie reacts when in defined BB_THREADS |
| 11:55.31 | pb_ | badly, I suspect, but the kernel already has a menuconfig task so this would not be a new problem |
| 11:56.14 | hrw | ~blame Nokia for lack of QToolBar in Qt Designer |
| 11:56.15 | ibot | ACTION blames simon42 and perhaps Nokia for lack of QToolBar in Qt Designer and the end of the world as we know it |
| 11:57.21 | woglinde | hrw hm |
| 11:57.33 | woglinde | hrw are you using the newest? |
| 11:57.36 | Heinervdm | pkg-config is OE is strange. without changing PKG_CONFIG_PATH to "${STAGING_LIBDIR_NATIVE}/pkgconfig" the path from buildhost is returned... |
| 11:57.37 | hrw | yes |
| 11:57.41 | hrw | 4.6.0rc1 |
| 11:57.54 | hrw | ok, 4.6.0 was released but that does not changed |
| 11:57.59 | simon42 | I take the responsibility for the "end of the world" thingy... but I never, ever touched something in Qt (-: |
| 11:58.10 | woglinde | hrw you could ask on qt |
| 11:58.18 | woglinde | maybee there is a reason |
| 11:58.25 | hrw | woglinde: I can code it by hand too |
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| 12:24.31 | sgh | woglinde: can you compile mesa-dri? |
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| 12:26.49 | woglinde | sgh beaglboard and mesa 7.4 works |
| 12:28.09 | sgh | sgh: ok ... strange .... does mesa-dri depend on a specific kernel-configuration ? |
| 12:28.16 | sgh | sorry ... |
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| 12:29.02 | woglinde | sgh hm |
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| 12:29.14 | woglinde | mesa depends on libdrm |
| 12:29.25 | woglinde | which might me depends on some kernel versions |
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| 12:30.08 | sgh | woglinde: I'll investigate. I will paste a build error |
| 12:30.26 | woglinde | we are behind with libdrm anyway |
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| 12:40.15 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6a70394463 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-base.bb: |
| 12:40.15 | CIA-10 | task-base: remove quotes around DISTRO_APM |
| 12:40.15 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 12:46.01 | Crofton | gm |
| 12:47.17 | Weaselweb | did someone build the usermanual from doc subdir recently? i got error like this a lot: chapters/introduction.xml:20: parser error : Entity 'Aring' not defined |
| 12:47.17 | Weaselweb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:52.24 | sgh | woglinde: http://pastebin.com/d331c3624 |
| 12:52.30 | sgh | woglinde: that is the error |
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| 13:05.27 | hrw | let me check Weaselweb |
| 13:08.23 | woglinde | sgh which libdrm? |
| 13:08.31 | woglinde | is used |
| 13:08.37 | woglinde | looks like the libdrm is to new |
| 13:08.42 | hrw | Weaselweb: with simple 'make' I got: html, xhtml, pdf, ps, dvi. rtf, tex versions of usermanual |
| 13:08.55 | Weaselweb | hrw: mh |
| 13:09.22 | hrw | Weaselweb: on Debian 'sid' |
| 13:09.34 | Weaselweb | coult that be the reason? "./usermanual.xml:31: warning: failed to load external entity "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"]>" |
| 13:09.41 | hrw | Weaselweb: yes |
| 13:09.41 | Weaselweb | could |
| 13:09.43 | sgh | woglinde: libdrm_2.4.11.bb |
| 13:09.50 | Weaselweb | hrw: you know how to fix that? |
| 13:10.00 | woglinde | yeah |
| 13:10.03 | hrw | Weaselweb: but I am not quite sure about it. I am not docbook expert |
| 13:10.04 | woglinde | try older libdrm |
| 13:10.25 | sgh | woglinde: ok ... is is enought to clean the curent libdrm and compile abnother afterwards ? |
| 13:10.54 | woglinde | to be sure delete header and lib from staging yourself |
| 13:11.04 | sgh | ok |
| 13:11.07 | sgh | woglinde: ok |
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| 13:14.00 | woglinde | re ant |
| 13:14.19 | Weaselweb | hrw: another package was missing. thanks though |
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| 13:20.56 | sgh | woglinde: apparently it did not work..... I will try to kill tmp and ensure that libdrm is locked to 2.3.0 and then build mesa-dri only. |
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| 13:49.21 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd843cfb729 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-omap_2.6.32.bb: linux-omap 2.6.32: bump SRCREV |
| 13:51.39 | Laibsch | My current breakage after coming back to compiling for OE after a few weeks is http://pastebin.com/f6a3e7654 |
| 13:51.44 | Laibsch | What's happening there? |
| 13:53.42 | Laibsch | nevermind |
| 13:53.51 | Laibsch | I had a patch for testing applied |
| 13:53.56 | Laibsch | it turned out that patch was faulty |
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| 14:02.46 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:06.46 | mckoan | morning kergoth |
| 14:11.46 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4252b6f04c 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ecore_svn.bb: ecore: maxrev iconv patch |
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| 14:27.21 | ant_work | mwester: ...I read your reply... :/ |
| 14:28.18 | ant_work | and btw we have to support some Zaurus with 32M ram too... |
| 14:36.34 | hrw | ant_work: poodle/corgi? |
| 14:37.02 | ant_work | yes... |
| 14:37.57 | ant_work | and oneday bcm634x routers my next target...) |
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| 15:02.47 | Laibsch | how do I get git to show me both author and committer? |
| 15:03.11 | woglinde | use qgit |
| 15:03.19 | Laibsch | good idea |
| 15:03.24 | Laibsch | not possible in this case |
| 15:03.30 | woglinde | why? |
| 15:03.31 | Laibsch | remote machine |
| 15:03.37 | woglinde | hm |
| 15:03.39 | broonie | git show ---format==full |
| 15:03.45 | Laibsch | broonie: thanks |
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| 15:15.50 | woglinde | re raster |
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| 15:24.01 | raster | woglinde: wogzaaa! |
| 15:24.15 | woglinde | hm was my efl patch applied upstream |
| 15:24.23 | woglinde | or why koen maxreved it |
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| 15:29.25 | mwester | ant_work, I'm glad to know that I do not have the only tiny-memory devices! |
| 15:30.13 | mwester | ant_work, I know that the *right* solution is to test the latest opkg sources, and add patches for the latest versions -- but I have no time to do so right now :( |
| 15:30.56 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1d3881e24b 10openembedded.git/recipes/linphone/files/b64_assert.patch: |
| 15:30.56 | CIA-10 | linphone: merge missing patch from shr/import |
| 15:30.56 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 15:42.27 | twinsen | hi |
| 15:42.53 | twinsen | I'm trying to build angstrom minimal-image, based on the angstrom webpage instructions |
| 15:43.36 | twinsen | bitbake stops with the following: Patch gcc43-c++-builtin-redecl.patch does not apply (file not found) |
| 15:43.54 | twinsen | I pulled OE repository today |
| 15:44.32 | twinsen | the task is gcc-cross-initial_4.3.1.bb do_patch |
| 15:44.38 | twinsen | any idea what can I do? |
| 15:48.33 | Laibsch | http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/gcc-cross-initial/ looks good |
| 15:48.59 | Laibsch | is that for .dev or the stable branch |
| 15:53.55 | Laibsch | twinsen ^^ |
| 15:55.45 | hrw | bye |
| 15:57.23 | twinsen | I checked out 2009-stable |
| 15:59.31 | twinsen | i don't see on the tinderbox page 4.3.1 only .2 and .3 |
| 16:00.14 | twinsen | i did this: git checkout origin/stable/2009 -b stable/2009 |
| 16:00.38 | Laibsch | I'm not sure the stable branch is well supported |
| 16:00.51 | twinsen | actually I'm quite new to OE _and_ git... |
| 16:00.55 | Laibsch | I'm surprised to see something so fundamental break, though |
| 16:01.09 | twinsen | wow :) that sentence rocks! |
| 16:01.35 | Laibsch | OE is trying hard but so far doing a fairly bad job at delivering consistent quality |
| 16:01.45 | twinsen | what are u guys using? |
| 16:01.49 | Laibsch | .dev |
| 16:02.01 | twinsen | ok, how to checkout that? |
| 16:02.07 | Laibsch | It's where fixes happen |
| 16:02.25 | Laibsch | But it's also bleeding edge and sometimes/very often things break |
| 16:02.39 | Laibsch | twinsen: should be in the wiki, I think |
| 16:02.54 | twinsen | sounds fair :) I used stable because the angstrom tutorial said to, i'm ok with dev |
| 16:03.36 | twinsen | I only want to build a beagleboard kernel, and the sgx drivers/libs (all other stuff is handled by gentoo on the board) |
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| 16:03.44 | twinsen | ok, I'll check the wiki |
| 16:03.47 | twinsen | thanks! |
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| 16:26.19 | twinsen | this is not good... bitbake dies with an error: NameError: global name 'os' is not defined (File "<bb>", line 18, in check_sanity) |
| 16:26.48 | twinsen | (i switched to org.openembedded.dev branch) |
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| 16:28.06 | mwester | check the mailing list archives; something like that was mentioned not too long ago. |
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| 16:29.10 | twinsen | ok :) |
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| 16:41.41 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * reebba7062b 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: |
| 16:41.41 | CIA-10 | checksums.ini: add linphone checksum and move wxWidgets-2.8.10.tar.bz2 checksum to right place |
| 16:41.41 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 17:05.12 | CIA-10 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd39f508544 10openembedded.git/recipes/linphone/files/b64_assert.patch: linphone: patch needs CR+LF to apply, sorry for that, now it compiles fine |
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| 17:08.06 | woglinde | hi otavio |
| 17:11.46 | jerm^ | hey...anyone here familiar with the gcc recipes for the target? |
| 17:11.57 | jerm^ | I'm suddenly seeing a QA error in packaging |
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| 17:13.19 | jerm^ | which appears to be caused by the symbolic link created here: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/gcc/gcc-package-target.inc#n129 |
| 17:13.58 | jerm^ | that symlink gets sucked into the non -dev gcc package, causing the QA error.... |
| 17:14.23 | woglinde | jerm hm I see only warnings |
| 17:14.33 | woglinde | but you are right gcc package is broken somehow |
| 17:14.38 | jerm^ | hmm...i'm getting an error |
| 17:14.51 | jerm^ | there is also an issue that causes a conflict with meta-toolchain |
| 17:15.14 | jerm^ | a decision is made that installs the nof (soft-float) libgcc if it is there...otherwise it installs the hard-float |
| 17:15.20 | jerm^ | in base_libdir |
| 17:16.10 | woglinde | hm ah this problem |
| 17:16.13 | jerm^ | when this package (libgcc1) gets installed using meta-toolchain it overwrites the hard-float libgcc installed by the gcc-cross-sdk package |
| 17:16.50 | jerm^ | then libstdc++, which is the hard-float version, cannot link against it b/c of GCC symbol versioning on some of the functions it needs from libgcc |
| 17:17.11 | jerm^ | qmul, etc is GCC_4.2 for soft-float versions, but GCC_4.1 for hard-float versoins |
| 17:17.14 | jerm^ | versions |
| 17:17.22 | jerm^ | this is all on powerpc |
| 17:18.35 | jerm^ | so I was trying to figure out why the symlink is being created and why the soft-float version of libgcc is preferred in this recipe |
| 17:18.51 | jerm^ | when making the libgcc1 package |
| 17:19.25 | woglinde | hm in which file it is? |
| 17:19.32 | jerm^ | unfortunately I have to go to the office...where IRC is banned...ughh |
| 17:19.37 | woglinde | hm |
| 17:19.42 | woglinde | even through web? |
| 17:19.44 | jerm^ | woglinde: i am building gcc_4.3.3 |
| 17:19.47 | woglinde | write to the ml again |
| 17:19.49 | jerm^ | yep...even through web |
| 17:20.05 | jerm^ | I was planning on it...just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas |
| 17:20.16 | woglinde | I think you localzied |
| 17:20.18 | woglinde | it |
| 17:20.24 | jerm^ | Koen was the last to touch the gcc recipe so I thought he may have ideas |
| 17:20.25 | woglinde | hm but I will look into it maybee |
| 17:20.29 | woglinde | or ask khem later |
| 17:20.39 | jerm^ | ok...thanks! |
| 17:20.48 | jerm^ | cya |
| 17:40.15 | PuffTheMagic | are there any docs that explain how to go about creating custom machine setup? |
| 17:40.38 | woglinde | hm? |
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| 18:47.26 | CIA-10 | 03Alan Campbell <a-campbell@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r08dcecdc77 10openembedded.git/recipes/ti/files/mp3dec_cs1omap3530.patch: (log message trimmed) |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-10 | ti-cs1omap3530: add MP3 decode support to OMAP3 DVSDK 3.0 GA DSP codec-combo |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-10 | Prerequisites : |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-10 | - Download MP3 Decoder package from OMAP35x DVSDK 3.0 Download page |
| 18:47.26 | CIA-10 | - install, untar it |
| 18:47.27 | CIA-10 | - add the mp3dec codec to the codec-server build via either copying the |
| 18:47.31 | CIA-10 | directory (recursively), symbolic link to additional repository, or |
| 18:47.33 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb788499815 10openembedded.git/ (77 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:47.36 | CIA-10 | recipes/ti: merge in updates |
| 18:47.38 | CIA-10 | * New codec recipes from Arago team in Germantown |
| 18:47.40 | CIA-10 | * Updated dm6446 and dm355 from Brijesh Singh |
| 18:47.42 | CIA-10 | * cmem, gst-ti and dmai fixes from Brijesh Singh |
| 18:47.44 | CIA-10 | angstrom: introduce SOC_FAMILY and start using it TI recipes as a testing ground |
| 18:47.46 | CIA-10 | * SOC_FAMILY tells you which system on chip is used in the MACHINE, e.g. omap3, dm355, pxa25x, s3c24xx. |
| 18:47.48 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra16e99914c 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (da850-omapl138-evm.conf hawkboard.conf): hawkboard, da850-omapl138-evm: use l138 include |
| 18:47.53 | CIA-10 | 03Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re23f7ee8b6 10openembedded.git/recipes/powervr-drivers/ (libgles-omap3.inc omap3-sgx-modules_1.4.14.2514.bb): libgles-omap3, omap3-sgx-modules: switch to new style installjammer unpacker |
| 18:48.39 | florian | re |
| 18:50.49 | CIA-10 | 03Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9700bd3af7 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/dm355-evm.conf: dm355-evm: fix UBOOT machine config |
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| 19:08.35 | ant__ | ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide opkg (/oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/opkg/opkg-nogpg-nocurl_svn.bb /oe/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/opkg/opkg-nogpg_svn.bb). |
| 19:08.40 | ant__ | bbl |
| 19:11.26 | mwester | Ouch. |
| 19:11.44 | mwester | goes to check his build logs to see if also encountered that error. |
| 19:12.49 | mwester | Nope, I did not encounter that one, just a compile failure for opkg-nogpg-nocurl_svn.bb |
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| 20:12.04 | thesing | hi all |
| 20:14.08 | florian | hi thesing |
| 20:15.12 | woglinde | hi thesing |
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| 20:37.08 | khem | gm to all |
| 20:37.24 | woglinde | hello khem |
| 20:42.28 | florian | hi khem |
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| 20:45.59 | XorA|gone | hi khem |
| 20:47.34 | khem | is running a build after weeks |
| 20:47.36 | woglinde | re xora |
| 20:47.42 | woglinde | khem good luck |
| 20:47.45 | woglinde | opkg might break |
| 20:47.55 | khem | hi florian woglinde and XorA |
| 20:48.07 | khem | and here it breaks uclibc/nptl |
| 20:48.11 | XorA | khem: are you still intending to stand for TSC? |
| 20:48.44 | khem | XorA: with all you guys at helm :) |
| 20:48.58 | XorA | khem: there isnt that many all you guys :-( |
| 20:49.06 | XorA | infact Im surprised at the lack of response |
| 20:49.06 | khem | XorA: I am interested though |
| 20:49.20 | XorA | currently I count only 4 candidates |
| 20:50.31 | XorA | khem: see the topic, Ill be starting the voting on Sunday |
| 20:50.45 | khem | XorA: ok |
| 20:50.57 | khem | I will express my interest on ml |
| 20:51.04 | XorA | and in general kick any other people you think should apply |
| 20:51.38 | XorA | that goes for everyone :-) |
| 20:52.14 | khem | ok |
| 20:52.18 | XorA | shall be in USA timezone tomorrow, so that gives people an extra 5 hours :-) |
| 20:52.29 | khem | XorA: cool .. |
| 20:52.40 | khem | will you be in east coast or west |
| 20:52.42 | khem | or canada |
| 20:52.45 | XorA | Salt Lake City |
| 20:53.09 | khem | Utah hmm |
| 20:53.18 | khem | not far from California |
| 20:53.44 | CosmicPenguin | poor khem |
| 20:53.55 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, X0rA |
| 20:54.03 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:54.07 | woglinde | 4 people is good |
| 20:54.11 | woglinde | or 5 |
| 20:55.00 | XorA | ideally we want 5 |
| 20:55.49 | woglinde | yes |
| 20:55.57 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:56.04 | woglinde | zecke didnt stand up? |
| 20:56.15 | XorA | not yet |
| 20:56.22 | XorA | you can see all candidates on oe-members |
| 21:02.38 | woglinde | re hrw |
| 21:03.08 | hrw | XorA: according to your mail candidates needs to delegate themself and cannot be proposed by other members - am I reading right? |
| 21:03.30 | XorA | hrw: yes, this is what the voting policy says |
| 21:03.43 | XorA | hrw: or my understanding of it |
| 21:04.08 | hrw | "The candidacy period lasts two weeks. All members who declare their candidacy in a statement sent to the membership list become candidates for the election. " part of 3.2 point? |
| 21:04.17 | XorA | yes |
| 21:05.10 | kergoth | who are the candidates thus far? |
| 21:05.22 | XorA | hrw: it kinds of makes sense, prevents you voting in people by random |
| 21:05.29 | XorA | kergoth: you, RP, koen me |
| 21:05.39 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 21:05.54 | XorA | at least thats the only emails I have seen hit the list |
| 21:06.17 | woglinde | with khem its 5 |
| 21:06.23 | woglinde | that would be good |
| 21:06.32 | hrw | woglinde: but Khem did not candidated |
| 21:06.47 | XorA | hrw: he said he would above :-) |
| 21:07.05 | hrw | I know, but so far he did not |
| 21:07.17 | XorA | with the amount of OE fanatics I expected 10 names |
| 21:07.21 | hrw | one thing is sure - I will not candidate |
| 21:08.15 | woglinde | hrw *g* |
| 21:08.33 | XorA | hrw: all those years of OZ you be perfect |
| 21:08.37 | hrw | I have experience of using OE, Poky, maintaining forks/branches of them, distros built from them, handling different machines and their needs etc but prefer to be developer |
| 21:10.16 | hrw | XorA: I do not know when we lost many devs - I do not see Rod activity for example |
| 21:10.23 | woglinde | hm anyone knows the clean solution to deal in autotools with -config shells? |
| 21:10.58 | woglinde | hm maybee check for it with the macros |
| 21:11.15 | XorA | hrw: good point, as a board member we should try and remedy that |
| 21:11.25 | woglinde | and then in Makefile.am `-config --cflags` `-config --ldflags` |
| 21:11.38 | woglinde | this seems reasonable |
| 21:12.45 | XorA | need to get a awesome stand display for FOSDEM this year, OE has been named in many many devices over the last year |
| 21:13.08 | hrw | XorA: and from TSC member I would expect knowledge of recent OE changes. I lack such one because during last months I live in Poky and stable/2009 land |
| 21:13.12 | hrw | XorA: o yes! |
| 21:13.46 | hrw | XorA: Palm Pre, Montavista, BUG, Archos |
| 21:13.53 | XorA | hrw: reporting every single branch is a PITA, it means I miss many many commit |
| 21:14.16 | hrw | XorA: I am unsubscribing from oe-commits |
| 21:14.41 | woglinde | hm why nobody fixes it |
| 21:14.52 | XorA | woglinde: lack of empowerment I assume |
| 21:14.59 | XorA | woglinde: which TSC can fix I guess |
| 21:15.15 | woglinde | xora give me sysadmin rights |
| 21:15.17 | hrw | XorA: btw - can we get planet.openembedded.org for OE devs blogs? planet.ltg is LTG |
| 21:15.25 | woglinde | I will fix it this evening |
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| 21:15.26 | XorA | one of the things we discussed in Berlin was making people feel more empowered |
| 21:15.42 | XorA | woglinde: cbrake and Laibsh have admin I think, I dont |
| 21:16.12 | XorA | hrw: mail the members list, sounds like a good idea |
| 21:17.41 | XorA | I guess an OE drink and gripe at FOSDEM might be an idea :-) |
| 21:17.55 | XorA | I vote in the rum bar :-) |
| 21:18.34 | hrw | http://www.psixpda.com/ |
| 21:19.09 | XorA | hmm, same keyboard fault as n810, but looks nice |
| 21:20.38 | florian | wonders which kernel to use for his htc universal |
| 21:21.04 | XorA | hrw: nice a PDA that can run WoW |
| 21:21.35 | CIA-10 | 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r30d737f92f 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:21.35 | CIA-10 | shr-wizard_git.bb: new recipe |
| 21:21.35 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
| 21:21.43 | florian | hrw: oh... well, PC based... crazy |
| 21:22.28 | CIA-10 | 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * re340492e1e 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/shr-wizard_git.bb: |
| 21:22.28 | CIA-10 | shr-wizard_git.bb: SRCREV instead of SRCPV |
| 21:22.28 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
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| 21:25.16 | CIA-10 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdaf52c62bb 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/kexecboot_git.bb: |
| 21:25.17 | CIA-10 | kexecboot_git: bump to 456e052144f58d3c1116a38cbb5caa44c070bce8. Bump |
| 21:25.17 | CIA-10 | PR. |
| 21:25.48 | hrw | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HQtYHYy2Hpc/SadRjeFQkTI/AAAAAAAAAuA/17Nm4Z_TV-8/S259/google.jpg |
| 21:27.45 | ant__ | mwester: it's just opie-image having that multiple thing issue... |
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| 21:51.52 | khem | hmmm gcc-cross is not buildable for uclibc |
| 21:52.06 | khem | did someone else have this issue |
| 21:52.24 | khem | make[1]: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1 |
| 21:54.41 | khem | hmm no change seems to cause it |
| 21:54.47 | khem | I guess I will clean it up |
| 21:54.49 | khem | and retry |
| 21:55.05 | woglinde | khem |
| 21:55.08 | woglinde | which distro? |
| 22:00.14 | hrw|gone | sleep time |
| 22:01.34 | woglinde | nite hrw |
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| 22:07.27 | CIA-10 | 03Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd9be32b1c7 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb: |
| 22:07.27 | CIA-10 | task-shr-minimal: add shr-wizard |
| 22:07.28 | CIA-10 | Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de> |
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| 22:15.50 | likewise | khem: hi, which machine are building for? |
| 22:17.16 | likewise | khem: never mind, I was afraid I was to blame, but my toolchain patches are not pushed yet :-) |
| 22:25.18 | woglinde | likewise *g* |
| 22:25.25 | woglinde | re jama |
| 22:28.39 | Crofton|work | urg |
| 22:29.59 | woglinde | hugh |
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| 22:32.32 | CIA-10 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra5139b280f 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-kexecboot_2.6.32: initial commit. |
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| 23:04.19 | sgh | woglinde: mesa-dri-7.4 compiles .... why is it -1 as default preference, when mesa-dri-7.0.3 is not? |
| 23:06.56 | woglinde | sgh hm because distro includes preffered-x-versions |
| 23:07.11 | woglinde | so the defpref dont matters |
| 23:08.32 | sgh | woglinde: ok, but still mesa-dri-7.0.3 is chosen if nothing else applies. And the current fact is that it does not compile. I would think that every mesa-dri should have a default preference of -1 to force an explicit version to be selected. |
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| 23:10.02 | woglinde | sgh rais this to list |
| 23:10.20 | woglinde | when TSC is formed TSC will give advises |
| 23:10.24 | sgh | woglinde: will do, |
| 23:10.29 | woglinde | to solve it |
| 23:10.37 | sgh | woglinde: thanks for the help earlier today :D |
| 23:10.44 | woglinde | he no prob |
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| 23:23.01 | XorA | sgh: def pref doesnt quite work like that |
| 23:23.31 | XorA | sgh I see nothing wrong with promoting 7.4 to prefferred anyway |
| 23:24.07 | woglinde | xora yes but nobody does it |
| 23:24.38 | woglinde | hm has anyone a site where I can look up what differten ifdef for linux darwin and bsd is set? |
| 23:24.38 | XorA | sgh can do it :-) |
| 23:25.08 | sgh | XorA: ok ... is'nt is correct that a defaul_preference of -1 will avoid the version to be build _unless_ specified by a PREFERRED_VERSION_whatever in a conf-file |
| 23:25.18 | JaMa | whole mesa directory could use some cleanup :/ |
| 23:26.05 | JaMa | there is about 4 generations of mesa (with own includes) and at least 4 variants (-dri, -full, -xlib, normal) |
| 23:26.23 | XorA | sgh: def pref is just a weigting, if they are all equal they all have equal weigth |
| 23:27.26 | woglinde | jama *g* not only mesa |
| 23:27.44 | sgh | XorA: yes yes :D ..... mesa-dri-7.0.3 has no default preference ..... soeee that'll be 1 or how ? |
| 23:28.16 | sgh | XorA: or at least "higher" that -1 |
| 23:28.21 | XorA | zero be defauklt I think |
| 23:28.26 | XorA | yes exactly |
| 23:28.29 | woglinde | jepp |
| 23:29.39 | XorA | anyway I really should go sleep got to get up in 3 hours |
| 23:30.43 | woglinde | xora uh why? |
| 23:31.17 | woglinde | jama sdl needs cleanups too |
| 23:31.19 | XorA | woglinde: plane to catch# |
| 23:31.32 | woglinde | hm oh |
| 23:31.38 | woglinde | where will you fly |
| 23:31.53 | XorA | Salt Lake City |
| 23:31.57 | JaMa | woglinde: sdl doesn't scare me as much as mesa, because its not blocking my xorg-7.5 merge :) |
| 23:33.54 | CIA-10 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rebd05b466b 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb: |
| 23:33.54 | CIA-10 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Update cvs recipe to use the patches from 2.6.21-hh20 recipe. |
| 23:33.54 | CIA-10 | This makes it compile again. |
| 23:36.44 | woglinde | jama clean it up |
| 23:44.06 | JaMa | gnite |
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