| 00:00.12 | grg | avoid anything with the workd UML in it |
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| 00:00.34 | kergoth | heh, i want to learn about just plain and simple databases, not object oriented design, or ORMs (yet) |
| 00:08.58 | denix | sql? |
| 00:10.28 | cminyard | most oo databases are really just hierarchical databases in disguise |
| 00:10.53 | cminyard | SQL is a little strange, but it's not too hard once you wrap your head around it |
| 00:11.06 | cminyard | I should say "relational databases" |
| 00:11.10 | denix | heh, I remember the times when RDBMS' were not SQL... |
| 00:11.15 | cminyard | heh |
| 00:11.22 | cminyard | That wasn't too long ago :) |
| 00:12.32 | denix | yeah, only about 20 years ago... :) |
| 00:12.47 | cminyard | kergoth, I learned using a book called "Linux Database", which has almost nothing to do with Linux :) |
| 00:13.06 | cminyard | I can lend it to you next time I'm in Tempe, if you are not in a hurry. |
| 00:13.25 | cminyard | denix, back in the days when big iron ruled the database world. |
| 00:13.46 | denix | :) |
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| 00:56.30 | kergoth | cminyard: okay, that'd be cool |
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| 02:09.49 | grg | lots of applications have toolbars with no text |
| 02:10.05 | grg | they have tooltip information upon mouseover |
| 02:10.18 | grg | but what is one to do if they only have a touchscreen? |
| 02:11.05 | grg | Is there a good policy for telling X that the mouse is at a location, without activating a tap? |
| 02:12.07 | grg | I can drag the stylus from nowhere, onto an icon, then release. That does show the tooltip, but its not really intuitive for users. |
| 02:15.57 | m4t | wants to tackle his udev woes tonight |
| 02:31.59 | m4t | okay, 'Starting udev/etc/rcS.d/S03udev: line 50: can't create /tmp/uname: Read-only file system' |
| 02:32.12 | m4t | that is without 'root=/dev/hde2 rw' |
| 02:32.14 | m4t | ie. ro |
| 02:33.35 | m4t | Starting udev |
| 02:33.35 | denix | m4t: /etc/default/udev |
| 02:33.44 | m4t | denix alright |
| 02:33.52 | m4t | denix , udev hangs with root rw |
| 02:34.20 | m4t | until the timeout is reached, then console becomes unresposnive, probably because the necessary devices doesnt exist |
| 02:34.43 | denix | the above message says your rootfs is ro |
| 02:34.52 | m4t | yea i changed it |
| 02:34.53 | m4t | Starting udevroot: mount: mounting /dev/hde2 on / failed: No such file or directory |
| 02:34.54 | m4t | to rw |
| 02:35.03 | m4t | udev hangs if its rw, udev errors out if its ro |
| 02:35.23 | denix | not sure why udev hangs |
| 02:35.25 | m4t | after udev is done 'hanging' it can't mount the root fs. and console dies |
| 02:35.28 | m4t | yea |
| 02:35.42 | m4t | maybe i should try mdev? really i'd like udev |
| 02:36.08 | denix | mounting blah on / failed - I also see it, but it's harmless |
| 02:36.19 | denix | are you sure it's udev? |
| 02:36.32 | denix | do you have getty on the right serial port? |
| 02:36.34 | m4t | i think so. i dont know why it waits the full 30s for devices to settle |
| 02:36.39 | m4t | denix yes, ttyS0 |
| 02:37.17 | denix | udev may take a long time to start the first time, that's why there is cache |
| 02:37.28 | denix | i.e. devcache |
| 02:38.05 | m4t | denix, hrm |
| 02:38.10 | m4t | i dont think it ever properly starts |
| 02:38.14 | m4t | i wonder if its logging anywhere |
| 02:38.34 | m4t | change udev_log="debug" |
| 02:39.01 | denix | Do you see the message "populating devcache"? |
| 02:39.30 | denix | that should come after udev started and initialized all devices, unless you disable devcache |
| 02:40.34 | m4t | denix i've not seen that message |
| 02:41.06 | m4t | looks like udev is started before syslog |
| 02:41.30 | denix | hmm, then it sounds like it can't settle some devices for you... |
| 02:44.54 | m4t | tmpfs is mounted no probs |
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| 02:47.29 | m4t | sysfs.sh runs fine |
| 02:54.38 | m4t | heh okay i pretty much typed out the init script by hand |
| 02:54.42 | m4t | udev is 'settling' |
| 02:59.21 | m4t | heh so /dev is blank |
| 02:59.36 | m4t | even after it settles |
| 03:01.30 | denix | hmm |
| 03:01.48 | denix | what image/distro are you building? |
| 03:01.56 | m4t | http://pastebin.com/dc236ef6 heh kind of lengthy and filled extra files |
| 03:02.21 | m4t | angstrom 2008.1 base-image |
| 03:07.05 | m4t | the most relevant lines of that pastebin are near the bottom |
| 03:09.21 | denix | when it boots, do you have udevd process running, /dev mounted and anything in it? |
| 03:09.54 | m4t | no i can't do anything |
| 03:10.18 | m4t | because console is unavailble, getty can't see /dev/ttyS0 |
| 03:10.37 | m4t | i did init=/bin/sh to try to debug it a bit further |
| 03:14.50 | denix | ah, I see |
| 03:14.53 | m4t | okay cool, the logs are available via logread |
| 03:15.01 | m4t | Jan 1 00:36:46 (none) daemon.err udevd[76]: error in select: Invalid argument |
| 03:15.48 | m4t | quite a few of those |
| 03:16.23 | m4t | its logging that continuously |
| 03:16.30 | denix | what kernel, what libc? |
| 03:17.48 | m4t | 2.6.24.7 ppc405gp, gcc 4.4.1, uclibc 9.30.1 |
| 03:19.13 | denix | google gives this thread: http://lists.impactlinux.com/pipermail/firmware-impactlinux.com/2009-April/thread.html#166 |
| 03:19.31 | denix | which discuss this problem with udev-140 and uclibc |
| 03:19.40 | m4t | heh i'm there |
| 03:20.02 | denix | I guess you can try udev-124 instead |
| 03:20.53 | m4t | sounds like a plan |
| 03:23.38 | m4t | thanks |
| 03:26.55 | m4t | what about udev-146 |
| 03:26.56 | m4t | hrm |
| 03:27.09 | m4t | checks to see if it has relevant change(s) |
| 03:30.51 | m4t | oh its definitely changed |
| 03:31.39 | m4t | 141: fdcount = ppoll(pfd, nfds, NULL, &orig_mask) |
| 03:31.56 | m4t | 146: fdcount = ppoll(&pmon, 1, NULL, &sigmask); |
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| 03:36.25 | m4t | ChangeLog: configure.ac: print error if gperf is missing |
| 03:36.27 | m4t | :| |
| 03:37.25 | kyozi | somebody knows how to bake angstorm without build a kernel? |
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| 03:47.36 | m4t | here's a fun one: udev/udevadm-info.c:55: error: 'AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 03:48.00 | m4t | even though staging has : |
| 03:48.01 | m4t | linux/fcntl.h:#define AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW0x100 |
| 03:48.13 | m4t | fcntl.h:# define AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW0x100 |
| 03:48.46 | m4t | and fcntl.h is included in udevadm-info.c |
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| 03:52.18 | m4t | problem seems to be in fcntl.h itself |
| 03:52.19 | m4t | #if 0 /*def __USE_GNU*/ |
| 03:52.21 | m4t | ... |
| 03:53.31 | denix | are you trying udev-146? |
| 03:54.00 | m4t | ye |
| 03:54.07 | m4t | ran into another one now: undefined reference to `openat' |
| 03:57.11 | m4t | looks like openat has been intentionally removed |
| 03:57.20 | m4t | has no idea wtf it does |
| 03:58.26 | denix | any specific reason not to try udev-124? |
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| 04:01.32 | m4t | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266290 |
| 04:02.11 | m4t | http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=188500&action=view should fix it, heh |
| 04:02.28 | m4t | stops destroying his header files |
| 04:02.46 | m4t | undestroying? |
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| 04:12.19 | m4t | 81-netlink-owner-check.patch 82-encoding-overflow.patch should fix the issues, i will test out the build and try it out |
| 04:23.38 | m4t | Starting udev |
| 04:23.38 | m4t | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.43 | m4t | :) |
| 04:23.44 | m4t | 124 |
| 04:23.47 | CIA-1 | 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc26fc5db90 10openembedded.git/recipes/dropbear/ (5 files): |
| 04:23.47 | CIA-1 | dropbear: Enable allow empty password patch. |
| 04:23.47 | CIA-1 | * Switch to using INC_PR |
| 04:23.47 | CIA-1 | * Enable allow-empty_passed.patch without this |
| 04:23.47 | CIA-1 | its not possible to login unless root password |
| 04:23.49 | CIA-1 | is changed to be non empty |
| 04:23.53 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> |
| 04:39.04 | denix | m4t: congratulations! |
| 04:39.24 | m4t | thanks |
| 04:39.26 | m4t | http://pastebin.com/d2e8c9ec9 :-] |
| 04:40.37 | m4t | egh so the only thing left really is to dremel the rear panel of this enclosure |
| 04:40.37 | denix | m4t: I'd suggest mentioning this problem with udev>=140 and uclibc on the mailing list. it maybe also platform or kernel specific though... |
| 04:48.16 | denix | leaves now |
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| 07:54.52 | tsjsieb | goodmorning |
| 07:55.21 | tsjsieb | Is it correct that the tinylogin addgroup utility can not be used to add an existing user to an existing group? |
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| 08:03.04 | jovox | does gnash run in framebuffer (without having x installed)?` |
| 08:03.42 | tsjsieb | yes, there are recipes for gnash on the fb |
| 08:04.50 | tsjsieb | they are called gnash-minimal in oe |
| 08:05.01 | jovox | ok, thanks. I will check for that |
| 08:14.06 | jovox | looks like gnash-minimal doesn't build |
| 08:17.17 | jovox | ERROR: '/home/jovox/oe/openembedded/recipes/agg/agg_2.5.bb' failed |
| 08:17.48 | MWelchUK | Hi |
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| 08:19.38 | MWelchUK | I've just attempted a build, we have included groff in our image. The QA during configuration is picking up a build dependancy on gawk. Should "DEPEND += gawk" be added to the groff recipe? |
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| 08:44.02 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 09:17.15 | pb__ | florian: good morning |
| 09:17.36 | pb__ | MWelchUK: probably, yes. |
| 09:19.11 | florian | good morning |
| 09:24.05 | jovox | swfdec finally installed but doesnt seem to work very well. I tried it using the standalone client swfplay.. Some of the swf files loads and it looks like the swf is starting but then it just stops loading it.. Anyone tried swfplay? |
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| 09:44.08 | CIA-1 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r00705178d3 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (23 files in 4 dirs): linux-omap git: add dss2 and cache patches |
| 09:44.18 | CIA-1 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * reff28b3b4e 10openembedded.git/recipes/dropbear/ (5 files): |
| 09:44.19 | CIA-1 | Revert "dropbear: Enable allow empty password patch." |
| 09:44.19 | CIA-1 | dropbear.inc needs the patch non-applied, see the thread in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/26302 |
| 09:44.19 | CIA-1 | This reverts commit c26fc5db90702b035bd545cff3ee7575a0f9b70f. |
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| 10:11.04 | booxter | holly sh*t, abi bumped again! :) |
| 10:11.22 | MWelchUK_work | pb__, Looking at some LFS docs (at the bottom) it looks like there are a number of "installation dependences". should these all be in it? |
| 10:23.36 | MWelchUK_work | Link helps! : http://tinyurl.com/m54mv7 |
| 10:27.44 | pb__ | MWelchUK_work: I think most of those are part of the base dependency set that must always be present. |
| 10:28.01 | pb__ | If it genuinely does require bash (as opposed to any other sh) then that should probably be declared. |
| 10:28.33 | pb__ | binutils and gcc are implicit dependencies (see base.bbclass); make is, I think, always assumed to be there although oe doesn't depend on it explicitly. |
| 10:28.55 | pb__ | likewise sed, cat, tr: I think the requirement for those is fairly deeply ingrained into the oe core. |
| 10:31.23 | MWelchUK_work | pb__,Interestingly the two warnings I see in the config.log are for gawk and gs. Ghostscript isn't even mentioned on that list, so I guess that document is a little out of date. |
| 10:32.24 | MWelchUK_work | pb__, it could be that we have already built some of the other dependencies, I'm not sure whether that would be enough for them not to show up as errors? |
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| 10:36.28 | pb__ | MWelchUK_work: what are the actual warnings you see? |
| 10:36.49 | pb__ | if you hadn't built the other deps yet then I would have expected them to be errors not warnings, but you never know |
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| 10:42.18 | hrw | mornig |
| 10:43.06 | hrw | booxter: thats why I put updating on hold for some time |
| 10:43.42 | hrw | I cannot afford two days for rebuilding tmp |
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| 11:12.50 | MWelchUK_work | pb__, Ah! Just looked at insane.class, that's completely wrong. |
| 11:14.09 | MWelchUK_work | It's using -I/usr/include for some reason. I also had ccache installed, which I thought I'd removed. It works fine on one of our other machines (that definitely doesn't have ccache) so I'm going to remove it and try again... |
| 11:18.19 | pb__ | Yeah, it seems like ccache is generally more trouble than it's worth for a lot of people. |
| 11:19.14 | MWelchUK_work | I really think it should be removed as a "required package" in OEAndYourDistro wiki page. It's clearly not required as OE builds fine without it. |
| 11:19.23 | MWelchUK_work | and it causes problems |
| 11:19.38 | pb__ | Yeah, that page is probably just out of date. Feel free to fix it. |
| 11:25.02 | MWelchUK_work | Shall I remove all mentions of ccache from that page? |
| 11:25.30 | MWelchUK_work | It seems to be fingered for breaking lots of builds in random ways |
| 11:26.07 | pb__ | Might as well. Current thinking seems to be that you're better off without it. |
| 11:30.08 | jovox | has anyone got swfdec work properly? I just tried the mozilla plugin ant it loads the swfs but just wont "run" them |
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| 12:04.42 | rkirti | good morning |
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| 12:20.06 | florian | hi rkirti |
| 12:22.07 | rkirti | hello florian |
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| 13:01.20 | whitefox | can someone please help me out with the error I am getting when bitbaking http://pastebin.com/m19fedcd4 |
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| 13:21.41 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:22.06 | rkirti | whitefox: did you bitbake glib-2.0 ? |
| 13:22.24 | rkirti | looks like the recipe doesnt state this dependency |
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| 13:26.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 5318 has been created by juanbackson(AT)gmail.com |
| 13:26.07 | cdbot2 | * * unable to bitbake ortp |
| 13:26.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5318 |
| 13:29.29 | whitefox | rkirti: no, but should I try that? |
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| 13:31.57 | rkirti | whitefox: yep |
| 13:32.02 | rkirti | that should solve the issue |
| 13:34.11 | CIA-1 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r881f92e340 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:34.11 | CIA-1 | linux-omap git: another checkpoint |
| 13:34.11 | CIA-1 | * add V4l2 interfaces to DSS2 |
| 13:34.11 | CIA-1 | * add back MADC driver |
| 13:34.11 | CIA-1 | * add zippy support for beagleboard |
| 13:34.13 | CIA-1 | * add DSS2 for omap3evm |
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| 13:38.32 | _whitefox | rkirti: it still sas "glib.h: No such file or directory" |
| 13:39.22 | hrw | glib.h? |
| 13:39.25 | hrw | bitbake glib-1.2 |
| 13:40.02 | _whitefox | hrw: thanks let me try again |
| 13:41.14 | rkirti | hrw: how did you determine ? both 1.2 and 2.0 provide the file right ? |
| 13:41.44 | hrw | no |
| 13:42.03 | hrw | ortp really uses glib-2.0 - I did not chekced pastebin before |
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| 13:47.09 | _whitefox | i am still getting the same error even after bitbake 1.2 |
| 13:47.28 | _whitefox | hrw: still the same |
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| 13:56.24 | rkirti | the recipe doesnt have glib-2.0 as dep. |
| 13:56.28 | rkirti | thats a bug |
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| 14:12.13 | florian | shoots opkg |
| 14:12.53 | hrw | florian: I forgot to remind you about 1.32 |
| 14:12.57 | florian | I wonder why this stupid piece of softtware to decided to prefer armv4 over armv5 |
| 14:13.06 | florian | hrw: right! |
| 14:13.09 | hrw | florian: check arch.conf? |
| 14:14.08 | florian | hrw: its during image build... so its ipkg.conf |
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| 14:14.20 | florian | eh opkg.conf |
| 14:14.31 | hrw | same thing |
| 14:14.32 | florian | arch armv4t 26 |
| 14:14.38 | florian | arch armv5te 31 |
| 14:14.46 | hrw | and there is armv5te package? |
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| 14:18.03 | pb__ | morning kergoth |
| 14:18.17 | florian | hrw: should be... just rebuilding the thingy |
| 14:18.23 | hrw | crap |
| 14:18.31 | hrw | we need to increase inodes amount |
| 14:18.35 | kergoth | hey |
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| 14:21.01 | florian | hi kergoth, hi Crofton |
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| 14:30.31 | hrw | have a nice rest of day |
| 14:32.31 | kergoth | i ⥠my psgrep & ppsgrep zsh functions. wraps around a ps | grep. psgrep shows only processes with the grepped text in their commandlines, and ppsgrep shows those, plus the full ps tree view of their parents |
| 14:38.52 | pb__ | heh, very good |
| 14:40.57 | kergoth | got the shlibdeps missing dep checking working last night, it caught 8 of them in a standard mvl6 build. some would never have caused a problem in the wild though, since their deps got pulled in indirectly, but even so... amazing how many aren't recorded in the metadata |
| 14:41.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:41.42 | pb__ | yeah, I can imagine there's a lot of that going on. |
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| 14:51.34 | kergoth | i hate it when i can't *quite* wrap my head around a theoretical problem case with some code |
| 14:51.42 | kergoth | i have this itch, i know there's a case I'm missing, that it could fail in |
| 14:51.48 | kergoth | but i can't quite work out the exact circumstances |
| 14:52.28 | kergoth | erk |
| 14:52.42 | kergoth | fyi, never store a generator in the datastore |
| 14:52.46 | kergoth | things get very unhappy |
| 14:52.50 | kergoth | copy.copy() explodes |
| 14:52.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 14:55.02 | kergoth | oh jesus |
| 14:55.06 | kergoth | shoot me now |
| 14:55.11 | kergoth | stupid anonymous python concatenation |
| 14:55.26 | kergoth | you can't use set(), because some other snippet is shadowing the builtin |
| 14:55.31 | kergoth | runs __builtins__["set"]() |
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| 15:11.15 | kergoth | ugh |
| 15:11.20 | kergoth | note: REPENDS != RDEPENDS |
| 15:11.22 | kergoth | stupid typo |
| 15:12.36 | kergoth | this is something it would be nice to be easier to catch. downside to this flexible way of handling the metadata |
| 15:12.45 | RP | kergoth: We need to stop that concatenation |
| 15:12.58 | kergoth | would kind of rather it said jackass, that variable doesn't exist |
| 15:13.00 | RP | kergoth: Wrap each snippet of code in a function, then call each function in turn |
| 15:13.17 | kergoth | yeah, thats what i was thinking too |
| 15:13.31 | kergoth | its actually on that task list.. low priority though |
| 15:13.31 | pb__ | heh. isn't that how it used to be? |
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| 15:15.01 | RP | pb__: No, each was compiled as a seperate function |
| 15:15.04 | kergoth | pb__: i think it eval'd each function and exec'd it indepedently |
| 15:15.10 | RP | hence the speed gain by concatenation |
| 15:15.25 | kergoth | as opposed to wrapping each bit in a function definition, and appending calls to those functions at the end fo the string, and eval'ing that |
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| 15:15.57 | pb__ | ah, right, I see. |
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| 15:16.27 | kergoth | isn't entirely clear on why eval'ing them separately is such a huge loss, performance wise, but *shrug*, whatever work |
| 15:16.28 | kergoth | s |
| 15:16.45 | pb__ | yeah, it does seem weird |
| 15:16.57 | pb__ | but, like you say. oh well. |
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| 15:33.19 | khem | whats diff between base_bindir and bindir |
| 15:33.31 | khem | bitbake -e shows they both point to /bin |
| 15:34.09 | khem | I thought one of them prolly bindir should be /usr/bin |
| 15:34.28 | kergoth | bindir is /usr/bin unless you're on micro, which flattens the structure |
| 15:39.06 | khem | ah thats the problem I am on micro |
| 15:39.23 | khem | trying to build procps |
| 15:39.41 | kergoth | some recipes/projects assume they're different, probably just another one to fix eh |
| 15:39.43 | khem | and it depends on bindir and base_bindir |
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| 15:46.12 | khem | kergoth: so whats the norm ? it needs to peep into /usr/bin as well as /bin |
| 15:46.33 | khem | its doing it correctly unless its micro |
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| 15:48.18 | kergoth | not sure what you mean. if it puts somet binaries in one and some in the other, it needs to not choke when they're different, and put all the files in the same location |
| 15:48.45 | khem | actually it needs to pick them from different location |
| 15:48.55 | woglinde | hi kergoth and khem |
| 15:49.15 | khem | and since bindir is /bin it does not find the binary to copy and dies |
| 15:49.30 | khem | woglinde: howdy |
| 15:49.46 | woglinde | khem your ssh patch wasn so good *g* |
| 15:49.52 | woglinde | t |
| 15:50.25 | kergoth | khem: so fix it to not die if they're the same. shouldn't be that difficult |
| 15:50.29 | khem | woglinde: yeah actually I messed my commit got myself tangled into git |
| 15:50.35 | khem | it was meant to be local |
| 15:50.55 | khem | I wish there was something like git push <commit id> |
| 15:51.10 | khem | I did a push from a not_meant_to_be branch |
| 15:51.31 | woglinde | oh |
| 15:51.32 | kergoth | you can push a specific commit id |
| 15:51.39 | kergoth | but remember that that pushes that commit -and its parents- |
| 15:51.42 | khem | kergoth git push <commit-id> |
| 15:51.43 | kergoth | just wouldnt push whats on top of that commit |
| 15:51.53 | kergoth | git push <remote> <commit-id>:<remote branch> |
| 15:51.58 | khem | yeah yeah the problem is below :) |
| 15:51.59 | kergoth | i use it on occasion to avoid pushing the top commits |
| 15:52.09 | kergoth | then rebase -i is your friend |
| 15:52.10 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:52.36 | khem | I think I have way too many local branches that I mess them quickly and more when kid is running around with messy diapers |
| 15:53.01 | khem | yeah I have fallen for rebase lately |
| 15:54.46 | khem | kergoth: say binary 'a' is installed into <install>/bin and b into <install>/usr/bin now it copied them like cp ${D}${base_bindir}/a .. cp {D}${bindir}/b .. |
| 15:55.14 | kergoth | i still don't see the problem. if they're the same, it's ${D}/bin/a and ${D}/bin/b |
| 15:56.10 | kergoth | NOTE: Task failed: Missing dependencies for gnutls-2.4.2-r4: ncurses, readline, libgpg-error |
| 15:56.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:56.14 | woglinde | khem I see |
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| 15:58.00 | kergoth | dare i attempt a world build? |
| 15:58.10 | kergoth | is a glutton for punishment, clearly |
| 16:00.03 | khem | kergoth: they are installed into bin/ and usr/bin actually |
| 16:00.35 | khem | its the following steps after install which wants to copy them around and fail |
| 16:00.39 | kergoth | if the recipe isn't obeying our path variables, it should be fixed to pass them in |
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| 16:06.26 | khem | kergoth: can you see recipes/procps/procps_3.2.7.bb whats missing in it |
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| 16:07.45 | kergoth | i don't see anything wrong with that. what's the error? |
| 16:07.56 | khem | the same one I explained earlier |
| 16:08.13 | kergoth | no, the exact error |
| 16:08.15 | kergoth | not your summary of it |
| 16:08.43 | khem | | mv: cannot stat `/home/kraj/work/oe/tmp/work/armv5te-oe-linux-uclibceabi/procps-3.2.7-r8/image/bin/uptime': No such file or directory |
| 16:08.46 | khem | | ERROR: Function do_install failed |
| 16:10.10 | khem | do_install did not honor bindir and base_bindir being same |
| 16:10.39 | kergoth | yeah, probably need to patch their makefile, or pass in the bindir/base_bindir explicitly |
| 16:10.48 | kergoth | well, either that or do an if .. check where it is, then move it, but thats .. ick |
| 16:10.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:12.37 | khem | i c they dont use configure |
| 16:12.56 | kergoth | figured.. gotta love custom buildsystems.... |
| 16:13.28 | kergoth | you can tell the people who hate autoconf never had to do a lot of distro work |
| 16:13.40 | florian | very true |
| 16:15.57 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 16:19.54 | khem | kergoth: i think love it or hate it but autotools is one reason of many reasons linux is widely deployed |
| 16:20.03 | kergoth | agreed |
| 16:20.09 | kergoth | everyone knows to ./configure; make; make install |
| 16:20.17 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:20.21 | woglinde | not every one |
| 16:20.22 | woglinde | *g* |
| 16:20.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:20.46 | khem | I work on bsd these days and its ugly there too although they use makefiles |
| 16:20.53 | khem | but have a look at the make files yuck |
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| 16:21.15 | khem | when it comes to supporting multiarch |
| 16:21.29 | woglinde | problem with autotools is, that most people dont update their configure.in/ac with the new features |
| 16:22.07 | kergoth | problem with autotools is, most developers don't understand it, or care to |
| 16:22.13 | woglinde | or using the old doucs |
| 16:22.21 | woglinde | kergoth that too |
| 16:22.45 | woglinde | saw it many times shippe aclocal stuff without the .m4 |
| 16:23.44 | kergoth | anyone want to check out the final (well, mostly) missing dep code i did for MV? I'm sure they wont mind, since we'll be pushing it upstream anyway |
| 16:24.06 | kergoth | could use another set of eyes |
| 16:24.11 | kergoth | http://kergoth.pastey.net/124651 |
| 16:24.55 | kergoth | should probably add a .rstrip() on the 'yield line' in the all_shlibdeps |
| 16:26.02 | kergoth | should move the getvar of pkgdest out of the loop in shlibdeps too |
| 16:26.07 | kergoth | shakes head |
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| 16:37.54 | khem | and autotools is smarters than 95% of humans |
| 16:38.09 | khem | thats the biggest problem |
| 16:38.45 | Tartarus | kergoth, the old "more self-review now that I put it up for public review" problem, eh? :) |
| 16:38.53 | kergoth | indeed |
| 16:39.05 | kergoth | only a couple minor things though this time :) |
| 16:39.23 | kergoth | think I'm getting slightly less crappy at python, this is almost comprehensible ;) |
| 16:41.41 | kergoth | one thing i wonder.. |
| 16:42.05 | kergoth | filter(lambda p: foo(p), mylist) or (item for item in mylist if foo(item)) |
| 16:42.24 | kergoth | 'item for item' annoys me, but the lambda isn't particularly pretty either |
| 16:44.02 | kergoth | wanders off to clean his garage... moving sucks |
| 16:45.33 | woglinde | kergoth hm where do you move? |
| 16:48.23 | Tartarus | isn't it already too hot to do that? :) |
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| 17:18.09 | khem | Tartarus: how is AZ ? |
| 17:18.41 | khem | Tartarus: I has planned a visit to Chandler this long weekend but have to cancel |
| 17:22.59 | CIA-1 | 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r955c5032b2 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/ (4 files): |
| 17:23.00 | CIA-1 | angstrom: Use linux-uclibceabi instead of linux-uclibcgnueabi |
| 17:23.00 | CIA-1 | * For uclibc based ARM EABI systems switch to using linux-uclibceabi |
| 17:23.00 | CIA-1 | as TARGET_OS |
| 17:23.00 | CIA-1 | Signed-off-by: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> |
| 17:23.01 | CIA-1 | Acked-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 17:25.00 | khem | reviews his grammar |
| 17:26.59 | radhermit | Does anyone know the best way to force linking with libstdc++ when using oe_runmake? |
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| 17:27.53 | khem | radhermit: what specific package are you referring to |
| 17:27.57 | radhermit | The situation is that I'm trying to build a program that only uses a static makefile and sets compiler flags and linking flags in the makefile so I have to unset those variables before calling oe_runmake |
| 17:28.14 | radhermit | khem: cc_flasher, that is not in the standard repo |
| 17:29.06 | radhermit | Since libstdc++ looks to be in the cross directory the linking process doesn't find it since it probably only looks in the staging directories, right? |
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| 17:31.06 | khem | radhermit: if you need libstdc++ one of easy and best ways it to link using g++ |
| 17:31.08 | woglinde | radhermit set LDFLAGS |
| 17:31.27 | radhermit | woglinde: You mean don't unset them? |
| 17:32.03 | khem | woglinde: that may not be good thing to do when gcc is used to link |
| 17:32.14 | radhermit | khem: Ok, so just set LD or something similar to g++? |
| 17:32.31 | khem | yes |
| 17:32.40 | radhermit | khem: Thanks, I'll give it a try |
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| 17:34.36 | radhermit | Thanks again, that worked well |
| 17:35.40 | woglinde | with gcc you -lsupc++ or something |
| 17:39.07 | khem | yeah so its extra pain that g++ already takes care for you |
| 17:40.22 | khem | pb__: gcc 4.4.1 looks ok with C++ with few apps I tried |
| 17:40.44 | khem | I am working on getting g++ regression testsuite executing on uclibc/thumb |
| 17:41.12 | khem | if that works reasonably then we can be bit more confident |
| 17:50.42 | kergoth | Tartarus: heh, I think I'd have to do my cleaning at 3am or something for it to not be too hot to clean the garage.. |
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| 18:00.04 | pb____ | khem: okay, excellent |
| 18:00.54 | khem | I am having trouble compiling perl (target) |
| 18:00.54 | kergoth | Tartarus: you're in AZ now? |
| 18:01.21 | pb____ | yes, running the testsuite would be good. I guess you'd probably need to do a side by side comparison run against 4.2.4 since we are some way from having zero failures anyway. |
| 18:02.02 | pb____ | target perl is a bit of a nightmare, you're probably best off avoiding that. I would suggest running the testsuite driver on the host and just execute the test binaries on the target, don't try to run any of the infrastructure there. |
| 18:02.12 | khem | pb____: I already have results of 4.2.4 from couple of months back but I should run it again once I have the image building should be matter of time |
| 18:02.38 | khem | pb____: yeah thats what I will resort to |
| 18:02.53 | pb____ | iirc, all the g++ tests are dejagnu so that should be fairly easy to arrange |
| 18:03.03 | khem | I think the problems are because /bin and /usr/bin are same for micro but some apps dont think so |
| 18:03.18 | khem | pb____: yes I have the cross setup |
| 18:03.33 | pb____ | possibly, though I think I have had perl running in a micro setup in the past. |
| 18:03.38 | khem | I was also aiming for uclibc tests |
| 18:03.48 | khem | which unfortunately needs to be run on target |
| 18:04.02 | pb____ | only on x86 though, I haven't done it on arm in ages. |
| 18:04.22 | pb____ | the only perl app that I ever wanted to run on arm was frozen-bubble anyway :-} |
| 18:04.23 | khem | yeah for x86 things are a bit nicer |
| 18:04.29 | khem | heh |
| 18:05.34 | pb____ | I think I started rewriting f-b in C although I never finished it. nowadays I guess perl-on-target is a bit less of a horror than it was in 2005, so probably not so much worth porting anymore anyway. |
| 18:05.52 | pb____ | bbiab, gotta go dig a hole |
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| 18:55.13 | pb____ | re |
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| 19:43.07 | pb____ | hi woglinde |
| 19:43.11 | rkirti | hello woglinde |
| 19:43.37 | pb_ | that's better, tail was getting out of hand |
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| 20:15.08 | florian | re |
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| 20:20.35 | florian | hi Martin-B |
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| 21:42.00 | CIA-1 | 03Stanislav Brabec <utx@penguin.cz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r69ae87f9c9 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xf86-video-fbdev: Updated to version 0.4.1. |
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| 21:42.11 | CIA-1 | 03Stanislav Brabec <utx@penguin.cz> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4c4bb699ac 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xf86-input-evdev: Update to version 2.2.5. |
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| 22:48.21 | ant__ | pb_: ping |
| 22:48.33 | woglinde | he ant |
| 22:48.39 | ant__ | hi woglinde |
| 22:49.10 | ant__ | I get arch/arm/mach-pxa/kernelsw.c:985: error: implicit declaration of function '__ioremap' |
| 22:49.37 | ant__ | arch/arm/mm/ioremap.c * Hacked for ARM by Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> |
| 22:50.07 | ant__ | seems gone between 2.6.16 and 2.6.26 |
| 22:50.12 | ant__ | hmm |
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| 23:08.04 | Jay7 | hm.. |
| 23:08.18 | Jay7 | linuxtogo.org looking strange |
| 23:08.35 | woglinde | jay7 yeah |
| 23:08.40 | woglinde | planet is down too |
| 23:09.05 | Jay7 | geil |
| 23:09.17 | Jay7 | well.. time to sleep then :) |
| 23:09.23 | woglinde | hehe |
| 23:09.26 | woglinde | good nite |
| 23:09.34 | woglinde | I will follow soon |
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| 23:22.57 | kergoth | yawns |
| 23:23.38 | woglinde | hehe |
| 23:23.40 | woglinde | too hot? |
| 23:24.01 | kergoth | worn out, and all i did was clean a garage, and didn't even finish it. amazing how much heat can just seem to drain your energy |
| 23:24.44 | woglinde | haha |
| 23:24.53 | woglinde | be lucky to dont have to much humidity |
| 23:25.02 | kergoth | yeah no doubt |
| 23:25.25 | kergoth | where are you located? |
| 23:25.42 | woglinde | *g* I am dont suffer to much from both in berlin |
| 23:26.07 | kergoth | ahh right :) |
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| 23:47.17 | woglinde | good nite |
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