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| 00:37.01 | Gnutoo | hi otavio |
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| 06:54.33 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 07:28.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 5277 has been created by chrisfriedt(AT)gmail.com |
| 07:28.06 | cdbot2 | * * wmiconfig_svn fails due to 'no GNU_HASH' bug |
| 07:28.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5277 |
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| 07:32.45 | vhallac | Hi. Is there a full list of tasks used in openembedded somewhere? |
| 07:33.08 | vhallac | I am trying to track down what do_build does, but can't seem to find it anywhere. |
| 07:38.44 | fraxinath | http://andy.ath.cx/mediawiki/index.php/OpenEmbedded#Toolchain-abfolge |
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| 07:41.56 | vhallac | Thanks for the info, but I was lookig for a description of what each task does. |
| 07:42.42 | fraxinath | fetch downloads the source |
| 07:43.14 | fraxinath | actually it's all pretty obvious until package and populate_staging right? |
| 07:43.30 | vhallac | Well, when there is compile and build, things get a bit hairy |
| 07:43.39 | fraxinath | as in how? |
| 07:43.47 | vhallac | compile is obvious... What does build do, then? |
| 07:44.02 | fraxinath | i don't think it really does anything |
| 07:44.08 | fraxinath | it's just the flag stating that it's done i think |
| 07:44.34 | vhallac | Hm. That could explain it. There was only a build definition for a single recipe in the classes. |
| 07:44.44 | vhallac | I thought I was missing something. |
| 07:45.03 | fraxinath | there may be other stages too |
| 07:45.11 | fraxinath | the recipe can define arbitrary ones |
| 07:46.24 | vhallac | Fairly flexible, but confusing for the newcomers. :) |
| 07:47.58 | fraxinath | yeah i had that problem too ^^ |
| 07:49.17 | vhallac | Thanks for the info. I may come and give you more headache later on. |
| 07:49.48 | vhallac | Someone told me that u-boot image is not created when doing the rootfs image build. I was trying to track that down |
| 07:50.24 | vhallac | I found the do_deploy being added after do_compile, before do_build, and it all started getting too confusing after that. :) |
| 07:54.46 | fraxinath | aah okay i see ^^ |
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| 08:16.36 | hrw | morning |
| 08:16.53 | mckoan | hi hrw |
| 08:19.15 | hrw | vhallac: there are many tasks in OE and some of them are not used by default |
| 08:20.04 | hrw | vhallac: "build" task is default one - other tasks are added as needed to be done before 'build' one |
| 08:23.43 | vhallac | I see. I was checking base.bbclass, and it looks like it is not as simple. It looks like we scatter tasks, some of them with dependencies, and some (like listtasks) stand alone. bitbake then orders them. |
| 08:24.27 | vhallac | I am now chasing what task gets pulled in when I specify something with DEPENDS or RDEPENDS. |
| 08:27.27 | hrw | vhallac: "bitbake -g target" then |
| 08:32.41 | vhallac | Aha. Thanks, it looks like I can track it down now. |
| 08:38.16 | vhallac | So, is there some sort of setting somewhere that says task X of package P1 will pull in task Y of packages in DEPENDS? |
| 08:38.29 | vhallac | Or is it inside bitbake? |
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| 08:52.43 | BlindMan | morning all |
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| 09:08.55 | pb_ | BlindMan: good morning |
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| 09:27.57 | Treibholz | is there an official way of reconfiguring a kernel? Or do I have to edit defconfig by hand? |
| 09:34.23 | RP | morning all |
| 09:35.30 | pb_ | Treibholz: "make menuconfig"? |
| 09:35.34 | pb_ | or bitbake -c menuconfig if you want bitbake to do it |
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| 09:40.18 | sgh | When compiling mesa. What is does --enable-glx-tls do ? |
| 09:41.01 | pb_ | enables tls support in the glx libraries, I guess. what does "configure --help" say about it? |
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| 09:44.38 | sgh | pb_: --enable-glx-tls enable TLS support in GLX [default=disabled]... But what is it.? |
| 09:45.42 | pb_ | presumably that's tls as in thread local storage |
| 09:46.26 | pb_ | glx is the glue between the opengl api and X. |
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| 09:58.25 | sgh | pb_: ah ok .... so tls migh improveve performance I surpose. |
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| 10:04.50 | pb_ | yeah, I guess that's the idea. I don't really know what glx would use it for, but generally it's a way of avoiding locking. |
| 10:04.56 | florian | good morning |
| 10:05.29 | pb_ | I'm not sure if this means that glx uses threads internally, or if it's just in case the gl api is called from a multithreaded client. |
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| 10:17.55 | RP | Hmm, we don't have any syntax to unset a variable do we? :/ |
| 10:27.19 | dth | bis später! |
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| 10:41.31 | pb_ | RP: No, I don't think so. Of course, you can set it to "" which often has much the same effect, but I don't think there is any way to actually delete one without resorting to python. |
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| 10:45.05 | hrw | RP: question I have |
| 10:45.38 | hrw | RP: your recent change to psplash (2009-05-28) makes it work properly on RGB and BGR screens? |
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| 11:09.38 | hrw | Palm SDK is done with MACHINE=qemux86 ;D |
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| 11:18.41 | florian | hrw: is it available now? |
| 11:20.48 | ynezz | it leaked, and it's windows only |
| 11:21.16 | ynezz | http://rs44tl2.rapidshare.com/files/249167601/PalmSDK-Win-0.3.4.exe |
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| 11:21.50 | BlindMan | palm sdk for webos? :) |
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| 11:30.04 | hrw | florian: it leaked |
| 11:30.17 | hrw | ynezz: inside you will find virtualbox image+iso ;D |
| 11:30.28 | florian | :-) |
| 11:30.29 | hrw | I plan to write about it on blog |
| 11:30.38 | florian | that's a cool idea |
| 11:30.55 | florian | plans to write a blog entry about linuxtag |
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| 11:32.55 | hrw | good idea it is |
| 11:33.08 | hrw | someone know which vesa mode is 'vga=864'? |
| 11:35.17 | hrw | screen is totally decalibrated in vga or xga ;( |
| 11:35.57 | ynezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions |
| 11:39.35 | hrw | gracias |
| 11:40.12 | hrw | 1440x900 8bit... strange |
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| 12:55.58 | RP | hrw: Yes, psplash should work on different byte orders now |
| 12:56.36 | hrw | great, we need to update then |
| 12:57.05 | hrw | RP: any plans to include greyscale patch from OE? so it will work on 1,2,16bit? |
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| 12:58.27 | RP | hrw: I wasn't aware of it... |
| 12:59.00 | hrw | RP: neither do I - just found it |
| 12:59.30 | hrw | would be fun to run psplash on 160x105x1 display ;) |
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| 13:00.06 | RP | hrw: For certain definitions of fun ;-) |
| 13:00.57 | hrw | RP: now we use fbprogress which is BUG only app |
| 13:01.48 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.08 | RP | hrw: I'll take sane patches for psplash... |
| 13:09.09 | hrw | I know |
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| 13:09.21 | hrw | RP: I met Dirk during LinuxTag |
| 13:10.56 | BlindMan | oh, there were more than just woglinde from the channel at the lt |
| 13:12.31 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:12.37 | hrw | BlindMan: ;D |
| 13:13.11 | hrw | BlindMan: Florian, Crofton, Ph5, woglinde, me, stefan, mickeyl and few others |
| 13:18.30 | BlindMan | ah, well |
| 13:18.39 | BlindMan | they all forgot to put their nicknames on the badges :p |
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| 13:19.54 | methril|work | good morning |
| 13:20.11 | hrw | hi methril|work |
| 13:23.36 | methril|work | hi hrw!! |
| 13:23.50 | methril|work | hrw: you know a lot of "handled" like devices |
| 13:24.36 | methril|work | hrw: did you test the mini2440? |
| 13:24.55 | hrw | methril|work: Florian has mini2440 and micro2440 - I played with them a bit during LinuxTag |
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| 13:25.10 | hrw | methril|work: I suggest getting version with WVGA screen |
| 13:25.18 | methril|work | hrw: I was lookinf for something similar with a 7" LCD ... |
| 13:25.32 | hrw | methril|work: device is very nice to play for someone who wants to learn about embedded systems |
| 13:25.37 | methril|work | hrw: o you know more hw like that? |
| 13:25.50 | methril|work | hrw: it's for a prototype at work |
| 13:25.51 | hrw | methril|work: 165⬠for wvga version is bargain |
| 13:26.03 | hrw | methril|work: http://friendlyarm.eu/ then shop |
| 13:26.19 | methril|work | hrw: nice, thank you |
| 13:26.29 | hrw | methril|work: s3c2440 on board, ethernet, usb host, usb device, 3 rs232 ports, audio in/out jacks |
| 13:26.40 | hrw | expansion connectors with extra signals |
| 13:26.58 | methril|work | yes, i see it, i'd like to see a board like this for beagle :) |
| 13:27.00 | hrw | there are two versions available: wvga and qvga (35⬠difference) |
| 13:27.18 | hrw | we had both at OE stand |
| 13:27.40 | methril|work | what a pitty not been in LinuxTag :( |
| 13:27.49 | florian | these were the two versions of the micro2440 btw |
| 13:28.03 | hrw | florian: ops, my fault then |
| 13:28.30 | florian | the mini2440 is more or less the same but the cpu board is not detatchable but part of the baseboard |
| 13:28.46 | florian | but the mini2440 is smaller than the micro2440 baseboard |
| 13:29.09 | methril|work | florian: what product do you recommend to make a info system? |
| 13:29.58 | florian | methril|work: depends on the required performance, price and guarantees about availability |
| 13:30.30 | methril|work | florian: for java, i think i need better performance |
| 13:31.08 | methril|work | i think the mini feets our needs |
| 13:31.30 | methril|work | because you're able to connect a 7 inch LCD without external interface |
| 13:31.35 | florian | methril|work: maybe yes... ask thebohemian, he should have experience with java on this cpu. |
| 13:32.17 | methril|work | florian: and other kind of products, with more or less the same cap? I'm not able to find a lot of them |
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| 13:33.19 | florian | methril|work: therare some more, but likely to be more expensive |
| 13:34.15 | florian | methril|work: http://garz-fricke.de/jupiter-openframe_en.html?ptab=1 |
| 13:34.34 | methril|work | florian: It doesn't matter so much, is for my company ;) |
| 13:34.47 | florian | One example I found recently... should be faster than the mini2440 at least. |
| 13:35.04 | hrw | I start to like few things in WebOS |
| 13:35.31 | methril|work | hrw: where are you testing the WebOS? :) |
| 13:35.42 | methril|work | do you have a palm pre? |
| 13:35.54 | hrw | methril|work: I am running leaked Palm SDK |
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| 13:36.44 | methril|work | hrw: where do you find the time?? hehehe |
| 13:36.51 | florian | wants to see screensots |
| 13:37.10 | methril|work | florian: i ask here because i see your las't blog post on planet linuxtogo |
| 13:38.35 | florian | This reminds me that I have some topics for my blog and shour start to write today. |
| 13:39.03 | methril|work | hehee, i'm not the only lazy one blogging :) |
| 13:39.59 | florian | btw... while this is on topic here: if someone wants to add his blog to planet.linuxtogo.org I can do this easily. |
| 13:40.26 | methril|work | well, i didn't update it so often |
| 13:41.16 | florian | the cronjob deoesn't care ;) |
| 13:42.37 | methril|work | openblog.methril.net |
| 13:42.44 | methril|work | i'm on planet.openmoko,org |
| 13:43.04 | hrw | florian: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/pre-shots/ |
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| 13:43.59 | methril|work | nice! |
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| 13:46.00 | florian | interesting... |
| 13:47.00 | hrw | it is clearly visible that their programmers thinks that WebOS == 320x480px |
| 13:47.22 | hrw | many apps have hardcoded parts of UI |
| 13:48.33 | broonie | Given that they have full control of the hardware these things are supposed to run on it doesn't seem unreasonable. |
| 13:49.28 | hrw | broonie: sure, but it looks strange in emulator |
| 13:49.45 | hrw | which can be run in any resolution |
| 13:49.51 | hrw | or even on bare metal x86 |
| 13:55.16 | thebohemian | hrw: hardcoding UI sizes .. what year do we have 1995 ? |
| 13:57.27 | hrw | thebohemian: remember that this is Palm... |
| 13:57.33 | hrw | they had 160x160 for ages |
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| 14:01.52 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: any progress on your mips booting process? |
| 14:04.39 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, hi |
| 14:04.46 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, no I did others things |
| 14:04.54 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, and from your side? |
| 14:05.01 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: ah, ok. |
| 14:05.15 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, we must coordonate our efforts |
| 14:05.24 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: I can boot it, but right now I'm stuck on (I guess) uClibc. |
| 14:05.43 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, ah ld-uclibc that segfault? |
| 14:05.54 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: it seems that dynamic linked binaries segfault |
| 14:06.04 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, yes it's the fault of ld-uclibc |
| 14:06.13 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: yeah, it seems so. |
| 14:06.57 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: I've applied openwrt patches, but no luck so far. |
| 14:06.58 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, I didn't succeed in making debug libraries for that particular library...others parts of uclibc are debug-enabled but not this particular part... |
| 14:07.12 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, did you try with openwrt's CFLAGS? |
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| 14:08.23 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: I haven't tried openwrt's CFLAGS. |
| 14:08.38 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, ok |
| 14:09.08 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, else I could try to debug it without the source...it's mips assembly and I learned it long time ago |
| 14:09.36 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: that looks scary. :-) |
| 14:09.50 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, lol |
| 14:10.13 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, the problem would be to follow the execution...I had problems with it |
| 14:12.03 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: now I'm trying to build an image with some more tools to see if I can get something from the environment. |
| 14:12.09 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 14:12.11 | Gnutoo | I've: |
| 14:12.15 | Gnutoo | *gdbserver |
| 14:12.20 | Gnutoo | *NFS client |
| 14:12.23 | Gnutoo | *portmap |
| 14:12.34 | Gnutoo | else I use the cross tools |
| 14:13.32 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: right. |
| 14:13.50 | hrw | root access to webos is enabled via ssh... |
| 14:13.56 | hrw | jumi ;D |
| 14:14.44 | Gnutoo | hrw, you've got a palm pre? |
| 14:14.54 | hrw | no - palm sdk leaked |
| 14:15.13 | Gnutoo | ah ok |
| 14:15.26 | Gnutoo | there are 3 interesting phones that are not openmoko: |
| 14:15.29 | Gnutoo | *palm pre |
| 14:15.35 | Gnutoo | *android g1 unlocked |
| 14:15.38 | mckoan | hrw: where is announced SDK public release? Ithought it was under NDA |
| 14:15.39 | Gnutoo | *exeda |
| 14:15.45 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:16.07 | hrw | mckoan: google for 'palm sdk leaked' |
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| 14:18.07 | mckoan | uh leaked aka un-officially released just to tect market response ;-) |
| 14:18.19 | mckoan | s/tect/test |
| 14:18.47 | mckoan | It doesn't work into VmWare winXP client |
| 14:19.11 | mckoan | maybe it's too leaked :-D |
| 14:19.36 | hrw | mckoan: it works in virtualbox |
| 14:19.47 | hrw | mckoan: http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/pre-shots/ - Palm Pre SDK |
| 14:21.57 | mckoan | wonders why a modern SDK should put on the weight of a JVM |
| 14:22.23 | broonie | mckoan: You want it to run as slowly as teh target system for best emulation :) |
| 14:22.46 | mckoan | broonie: LOL |
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| 14:29.06 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, my problem is this one: segfault+disass => No function contains program counter for selected frame. |
| 14:29.49 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, bt => warning: GDB can't find the start of the function at 0x2aab060f. |
| 14:29.51 | Gnutoo | etc... |
| 14:30.45 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: hmmm. Are you also stuck on the execution of dynamic linked binaries? |
| 14:30.55 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, yes |
| 14:31.14 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: I thought you were having problems with the kernel. |
| 14:31.24 | Gnutoo | it didn't change since last time since I didn't touch my wrt |
| 14:31.36 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, that was long time ago... |
| 14:32.15 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: ah, ok. I was disconnected since wednesday... |
| 14:32.40 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, didn't you remember...when I saw you on irc last time..I saw you had the same problem than me with mips+shared libs |
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| 14:33.04 | Gnutoo | and then I found out that you were doing the same thing than me... |
| 14:33.33 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: ah, ok. Now I remember. |
| 14:33.38 | Gnutoo | :) |
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| 14:35.34 | Gnutoo | is bal branch and link? |
| 14:36.19 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:36.32 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
| 14:36.45 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, http://pastebin.com/m218aa87 |
| 14:37.51 | Gnutoo | but strange branch and link should be jal |
| 14:37.52 | Gnutoo | jump and link |
| 14:38.05 | Gnutoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIPS_architecture for the mips assembly |
| 14:39.02 | Gnutoo | maybe I'll ask on #mips |
| 14:39.18 | Gnutoo | doesn't exist |
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| 14:40.23 | Gnutoo | I'll try ##asm |
| 14:43.12 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: looks like it is branch and link |
| 14:43.23 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: from http://www.cs.unibo.it/~solmi/teaching/arch_2002-2003/AssemblyLanguageProgDoc.pdf |
| 14:43.28 | Gnutoo | mmm seems the same thing than mov pc to ra |
| 14:43.31 | Gnutoo | ok thanks |
| 14:44.47 | Gnutoo | ok I understand it's realy a move |
| 14:44.57 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: just a random guess: couldn't it be a linker bug? |
| 14:45.11 | Gnutoo | what do you mean exactly? |
| 14:45.45 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: that maybe ld is linking things wrong, so the problem would be binutils, not uClibc. |
| 14:45.54 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 14:46.20 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: as I said, just a random guess. |
| 14:46.46 | Gnutoo | that would be a good guess since |
| 14:47.09 | Gnutoo | *we didn't tried the openwrt obtimizations but I guess it won't work either with them |
| 14:47.20 | Gnutoo | *you tried patching uclibc |
| 14:47.35 | Gnutoo | maybe we could do the following |
| 14:48.07 | Gnutoo | no bad idea |
| 14:48.23 | Gnutoo | (was trying the openwrt toolchain on the oe rootfs) |
| 14:48.37 | Gnutoo | (compile with openwrt and run inside oe's rootfs) |
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| 14:55.03 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, I bet it's more the undelying libs because: |
| 14:55.16 | Gnutoo | *if I run my hello world in openwrt's rootfs it works |
| 14:56.12 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, unfortunately I have to go |
| 14:56.12 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: is hello word dynamically linked? |
| 14:56.16 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, yes |
| 14:56.34 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: I have to go in a few minute too. We can talk later. Thanks for your help and time. |
| 14:56.35 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, it work with openwrt's rootfs but not in oe's rootfs |
| 14:56.46 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, thanks for your cooperation too |
| 14:57.01 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, just in case do you have my mail? |
| 14:57.37 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: no, I don't have your e-mail (mine is mario.goulart at gmail). |
| 14:57.53 | Gnutoo | mario-goulart, mine is gnutoo at no-log.org |
| 14:58.07 | mario-goulart | Gnutoo: ok |
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| 15:33.03 | mckoan | bbl |
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| 15:55.07 | hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2009/06/29/palm-sdk-has-leaked/ |
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| 16:04.53 | BlindMan | hrw: w00t :) |
| 16:12.21 | florian | re |
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| 17:02.30 | hrw | have a nice rest of day |
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| 17:22.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 5156 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by quickx(AT)hotmail.com |
| 17:22.06 | cdbot2 | * * meta-toolchain doesn't produce any *.pc files in deployed file |
| 17:22.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5156 |
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| 17:39.10 | oespirit | ~curse un-auto-tooled packages having hard-coded paths for making recipe writing a nightmare |
| 17:39.11 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, un-auto-tooled packages having hard-coded paths for making recipe writing a nightmare ! |
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| 17:45.48 | kergoth | un-autotooled packages are annoying in general. i hate autotools, but at least it can be worked around in reliable and predictable ways, instead of having to invent new workarounds for each and every damn package.. |
| 17:45.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:51.34 | oespirit | kergoth: +1 |
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| 18:00.13 | BusError | is ther a way NOT to build the -dbg packages ? i got a small (console image) tree and it's already 800MB (!) |
| 18:01.04 | kergoth | building them isn't a problem |
| 18:01.14 | kergoth | your real question is what are you including in the image that results in depending on them, no? |
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| 18:01.44 | kergoth | but you could always override FILES_${PN}-dbg = "" in your local.conf, if you really want to avoid packaging them |
| 18:01.47 | BusError | example : alsa libs, 7KB. Alsa-lib-dev, 1.3KB --- alsa-lib-dbg 3.2MB |
| 18:01.57 | kergoth | right, so why are you including the debug stuff in your image? |
| 18:02.52 | BusError | well I'm making a 3G accessible, production box, I;m trying to package the whole *.ipk on a SD card for when I go update the box... |
| 18:03.15 | BusError | they are not on the image, but they are package of package-index, so they end up on my card... |
| 18:04.25 | kergoth | if you override the FILES for that package itll make them empty, but still create the packages, iirc they're set to allow empty |
| 18:05.38 | BusError | can I filter files afterward maybe ? is there a "package-index that subset" ? |
| 18:05.50 | BusError | I don't mind having them on the workstation |
| 18:07.22 | oespirit | BusError: if you want to do away with building them altogether, you can just edit PACKAGES variable in bitbake.conf |
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| 18:10.25 | BusError | goes and have a look |
| 18:14.13 | BusError | removes doc, locales and dbg :> |
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| 18:21.33 | kergoth | thinks we really do need -= |
| 18:22.43 | BusError | went from 759MB to 250 -- just removing the -dbg- :> |
| 18:25.37 | oespirit|zZz | BusError: :) |
| 18:27.24 | BusError | well, that is enough of a difference I could consider doing remote update here, it's far from insignificant! |
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| 18:34.55 | RP | kergoth: Think about the headaches that could introduce with ordering ;-) |
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| 18:36.42 | kergoth | well, it's clear that -= would be immediate, the same way += and .= are, so obviously the user would have to consider ordering issues there. I don't think we'd want an _remove. It's clear that += and =+ are semantically word based, so a -= that's also word based would make sense |
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| 20:14.00 | hoj | anyone have experience running oprofile? I see no sample file generated, and must've missed some part of install/setup |
| 20:29.16 | sgh | Hi! ... is it possible to aboid vompiling mesa with --enable-glx-tls without actually modifying the recipe ? |
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| 20:31.11 | pb__ | Yes, you can override EXTRA_OECONF if you want. |
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| 20:37.31 | sgh | pb__: But how do I do it without editing the recipe - if it is possible of cause :) |
| 20:38.16 | kergoth | EXTRA_OECONF_pn-<recipename> = "foo". standard use of OVERRIDES to conditionally override a variable, see the bitbake manual for details |
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| 20:45.11 | sgh | kergoth: thanks ... will try that. |
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| 20:54.07 | Gnutoo | I start realizing...I'm doing: |
| 20:55.01 | Gnutoo | gdbserver 168.0.0.139:8022 chroot /mnt/NFS/ /bin/hello |
| 20:55.09 | Gnutoo | how do I follow that with the debugger? |
| 20:55.32 | Gnutoo | do I need to use the second serial port and do the following: |
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| 20:56.37 | Gnutoo | tftp-kernel-boot->static-gdbserver that listen on the serial port->(hello world+while loop) non-static |
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| 21:30.32 | Gnutoo | I'll try the following setup: chroot->gdbserver-static->hello-wold-dynamic |
| 21:33.13 | Gnutoo | mmm...I broke the compiler |
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