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| 01:05.03 | SDuensin | Anybody alive tonight? |
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| 01:44.59 | Laibsch | SDuensin: Ever heard about "don't ask to ask?" |
| 01:45.29 | Laibsch | kergoth: ping |
| 01:45.37 | Laibsch | rwhitby: ping |
| 01:45.47 | SDuensin | Yep. Didn't have a real specific question. Just hangin' out. :-) |
| 01:45.53 | SDuensin | Been bitbaking Angstrom all day. |
| 01:46.12 | Laibsch | Funny, so indeed your question was only if anybody was awake ;-) |
| 01:46.30 | SDuensin | Yep! :-P |
| 01:47.07 | SDuensin | Unless you happen to know how to get Java going under Angstrom with OE. |
| 01:47.21 | rwhitby | Laibsch: syn|ack |
| 01:47.38 | Laibsch | SDuensin: sorry, no idea |
| 01:48.06 | SDuensin | Laibsch - Me either. Was planning on worrying about it for real once the first bake is done. |
| 01:49.11 | Laibsch | I use packaged staging. Yesterday I cleared TMPDIR with the exception of DEPLOYDIR and restarted building stuff. It went well at first, but there were always errors about "ERROR: no cross compiler built yet?" Was I doing something wrong? |
| 01:49.46 | Laibsch | rwhitby: maybe you have an answer to above question? Second, I was wondering about mysql on melo. |
| 01:49.59 | Laibsch | we recently moved bugzilla and that went really well |
| 01:50.47 | Laibsch | I'm wondering if the users that have been set up are restricted in any way or if any user can currently basically access any database |
| 01:51.02 | Laibsch | I was wondering who to ask for additional database users |
| 01:51.19 | Laibsch | We don't have a dedicated one for tinderbox/oestats for example |
| 01:51.35 | rwhitby | Laibsch: let's talk about this in another channel |
| 01:51.43 | Laibsch | where? |
| 01:51.56 | rwhitby | check your invites |
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| 07:34.50 | goddchen | good morning |
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| 08:29.19 | sgh_ | do anybody have a local.conf which is able to create a minimal-image for x386? No matter what I try oe allways fail with some strange error. |
| 08:31.53 | pb__ | what's the error you're seeing? |
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| 08:36.16 | mdavey|home | anyone know where I can get a zlib opkg for omap3/beagleboard from? |
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| 08:41.13 | pb__ | mdavey|home: that's probably a question for #beagle |
| 08:41.35 | mdavey|home | okay |
| 08:58.25 | _diego_ | how can i use eglibc in angstrom, instead of glibc? |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-73 | 03Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r61fac2a35a 10openembedded.git/recipes/dropbear/dropbear.inc: dropbear: adjust packaging for micro |
| 09:22.08 | sgh_ | pb__: I see different errors, but in general it seems to me like a lot of stuff is boken. But maybe it is because I do not specify machine, only target? |
| 09:23.42 | pb__ | sgh_: could well be. try MACHINE="qemux86" for a generic-ish x86 build |
| 09:23.57 | pb__ | there's also a bunch of ix86-generic machine files but I don't know how well they work. |
| 09:25.47 | sgh_ | pb__: interresting .... I will try that. Thank you. I will problably show up later with another newbie-question :D |
| 09:32.19 | CIA-73 | 03Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r74aea7deec 10openembedded.git/recipes/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: sysvinit: banish seldom-used utils into sysinit-utils package, recommend it for everything except micro |
| 09:33.30 | pb__ | fwiw, I'm pretty sure that the local.conf I'm using at the moment is more-or-less identical to the sample one, except with MACHINE=qemux86 and DISTRO=micro. if that doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll have a look at whatever has gone wrong. |
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| 09:56.14 | CIA-73 | 03Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r14ef40ca3a 10openembedded.git/recipes/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: sysvinit: move a couple more files to -utils package |
| 09:56.19 | CIA-73 | 03Phil Blundell <philb@gnu.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1d2cdebb36 10openembedded.git/recipes/images/micro-image.bb: micro-image: remove assignment to ONLINE_PACKAGE_MANAGEMENT, micro.conf sets this now |
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| 10:44.33 | pb__ | florian: good morning |
| 10:45.48 | florian | hi all |
| 10:46.12 | pb__ | florian: so, I finally succeeded in building a gpe-image for qemux86. |
| 10:46.35 | pb__ | it doesn't actually boot, but nonetheless this is a step in the right direction |
| 10:49.13 | florian | pb__: sounds like angstrom defines a lot of things we actually need for gpe-image. :-/ I built one for the micro2440 some weeks ago. |
| 10:50.02 | pb__ | florian: yeah, I think that's probably true. also, several packages' sources seem to be unfetchable. |
| 10:51.08 | pb__ | notably, philippe's and mallum's home directories on handhelds.org have disappeared, which makes xmonobut unbuildable |
| 10:51.08 | pb__ | figment too, but Laibsch found another mirror for that |
| 10:51.08 | florian | irc from a car is nice... if you are in an area with gsm connectivity :) |
| 10:52.47 | florian | hrm.,.. gsm coverage in the Westerwald area is a pain obviously. Not talking about umts ;) |
| 10:53.05 | florian | pb__: hrm... hh.org is famous for data loss :-( |
| 10:55.36 | florian | takes another mental note to take a look at the fetcher and how it can help us with missing sources |
| 10:57.01 | pb__ | bbl, gotta head down to the big city to visit some friends |
| 10:57.03 | pb__ | -> |
| 10:57.21 | florian | worst case i should have all the necesary files in my archive |
| 10:57.28 | florian | pb__: have fun |
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| 11:14.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 11:14.07 | cdbot2 | * * bugzilla on amethyst is unpackaged |
| 11:14.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id= |
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| 12:22.43 | rkirti | pb__: |
| 12:22.55 | rkirti | pb__: please ping when you are back |
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| 12:59.29 | Crofton|work | likewise, ping |
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| 14:24.20 | kergoth | mulls over the possibility of only doing the autoreconf bits when we have to |
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| 14:47.57 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... |
| 14:48.40 | gremlin[it] | i'm trying to build a custom image but i found a difference between documentation and bootstrap-image |
| 14:49.21 | gremlin[it] | IMAGE_INSTALL = "${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER}" on bootstrap-image.bb but doc refer to PACKAGE_INSTALL. what is the difference ? |
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| 14:58.50 | kg4ysn | where's the proper place to override a SRCREV declaration from sane-srcrev? socketcan-modules is stuck on r917 in sane-srcrev, but i need a driver from r1010. when i put SRCREV_pn-socketcan-modules = "1010" in my cslinux-image recipe, bb still uses r917; if i put that same declaration in local.conf (for testing only), it uses r1010. any ideas on how to more properly structure this one? |
| 15:03.35 | kergoth | kg4ysn: uh, one recipe can't modify another recipe's metadata, period |
| 15:03.58 | kergoth | SRCREV_pn-foo results in SRCREV in foo's metadata set to what you specify |
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| 15:09.34 | kg4ysn | kergoth: so what's the best way to handle it? |
| 15:09.53 | kergoth | set it from local.conf, or from your distro's .conf |
| 15:10.01 | kergoth | just like how everyone else handles it |
| 15:10.45 | kg4ysn | kergoth: will forking a copy of the socketcan-modules recipe into my local overlay work? |
| 15:11.14 | kergoth | yes, though that's a lot more difficult than setting a variable in config file, but suit yourself |
| 15:11.51 | kg4ysn | kergoth: just trying to understand the scope of metadata per recipe. :-) thanks for the help! |
| 15:12.01 | kergoth | it's not that hard to understand |
| 15:12.06 | kergoth | every recipe's metadata is independnet |
| 15:12.09 | kergoth | recipe + classes |
| 15:12.17 | kergoth | the global .conf metadata flows into that, not vice versa. |
| 15:13.16 | kg4ysn | kergoth: thanks! |
| 15:13.23 | kergoth | np |
| 15:13.52 | kergoth | wonders if a high level conceptual overview is written down anywhere |
| 15:14.04 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, no ... |
| 15:14.11 | kg4ysn|away | kergoth: not a great one ... the OE user manual barely has details on this stuff |
| 15:14.31 | gremlin[it] | it's a think i have to expalin to every one i suggest to start with OE :) |
| 15:15.09 | kergoth | i can try to put something together, if mv doesn't push any doc improvements up.. not sure if we are or not |
| 15:16.02 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, to add a program at startup ... so changinf /etc/inittab or something else around is a stuff of a task-*.bb image-*.bb or what ? basically to do i gave to define a new distro or just a new image ? |
| 15:16.37 | kergoth | there's a variable that you can use to inject shell commands into the end of the rootfs creation to do arbitrary rootfs alterations |
| 15:16.44 | kergoth | otherwise make a recipe that emits an ipkj and put that into the image |
| 15:17.12 | kergoth | grep POSTPROCESS classes/{rootfs,image}*.bbclass |
| 15:17.24 | gremlin[it] | thanks kergoth ! |
| 15:17.29 | kergoth | or, yes, you can certainly make your own image |
| 15:17.34 | kergoth | depending on how much you need to change |
| 15:18.12 | gremlin[it] | making a new image is quite simple ... make a new distro not so i'm happy i can do or whit a simple recipe or a new image ... |
| 15:18.52 | kergoth | very rarely does someone have to make a new distro, you can almost always change things via local.conf that the distro sets, unless they were mean and didn't use ?= for things :P |
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| 15:21.38 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, as an example ... to substitute gpe-dm (gpe-login) with a custom x11 application, probably change the image could be better ... |
| 15:21.47 | kergoth | nods |
| 15:21.52 | kergoth | unfortunately bitbake has no "-=" |
| 15:21.57 | kergoth | it would be useful to add one |
| 15:22.04 | kergoth | for space separated stuff, anyway |
| 15:22.38 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, yes ... i meat take x11-image and create a new one starting from it |
| 15:24.05 | kergoth | mulls over how we'd fix it so distro/machine could be before local.conf in the layers of the config metadata, even though MACHINE/DISTRO are set in local.conf usually |
| 15:24.45 | kg4ysn|away | kergoth: or maybe add another level for image/distro/machine overrides AFTER all that stuff? |
| 15:25.36 | kergoth | possible, local-post or something, but I'd rather fix it so the machine/distro bits could be injected into their layer of the config even though they're parsed after :) |
| 15:27.25 | kergoth | i think it may be helpful for people to wrap their head around OpenEmbedded if they consider that we intended the config to be layered, from most generic to most specific. bitbake.conf, down to target arch/os, distro, machine, site, local. bitbake.conf loading them in that order via include directives, from BBPATH. Then OVERRIDES lets you use those same layers as conditional variable definitions anywhere in those files, or elsewhere. |
| 15:27.27 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 15:30.02 | kergoth | takes a deep breath and tries a world build |
| 15:30.37 | kergoth | wonders how many days it'll take to finish |
| 15:34.11 | gremlin[it] | mhhh something don't work |
| 15:34.47 | gremlin[it] | with DEPENDS = "${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} foobar" and IMAGE_INSTALL = "${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} foobar", foobar isn't installe din the image :( |
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| 16:27.56 | Goddchen | hi everyone |
| 16:28.17 | Goddchen | i managed to compile / install / ... concierge (i've written my own recipe) |
| 16:28.39 | Goddchen | but when i try to include it in an image i get an error on do_rootfs saying: |
| 16:28.51 | Goddchen | Cannot find package concierge |
| 16:30.10 | Goddchen | my recipe looks like this: http://goddchen.pastebin.com/d629594db and bitbake concierge run's completely without any error messages |
| 16:36.14 | Goddchen | any ideas? |
| 16:36.30 | Goddchen | do i miss something in my recipe to include concierge in an image? |
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| 16:38.20 | kergoth | including a recipe in the image isn't done from the recipe. |
| 16:38.25 | kergoth | it's done by the image's recipe |
| 16:39.18 | Goddchen | yeah i know that |
| 16:39.43 | Goddchen | i just added concierge to IMAGE_INSTALL |
| 16:40.14 | Goddchen | i already did so with "jamvm" which went just fine, jamvm is in the generated rootfs |
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| 16:52.49 | kergoth | just because it built without errors doesn't necessarily mean it was actually installed. I'd advise checking the do_install log for conceirge, the do_rootfs log for the image, and the actual contents of the conceirge ipk (it's just an 'ar' file. ar x foo.ipk; tar tzf data.tar.gz) |
| 16:53.54 | Goddchen | do_install is empty |
| 16:54.13 | Goddchen | where exactly are the ipk files located? |
| 16:55.09 | Goddchen | should it be under /tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/? there is concierge ipk file in that directory :( |
| 16:55.09 | kergoth | if you know enough to find out whether it went into the image, you know enough to find the ipks |
| 16:55.11 | kergoth | ls tmp/deploy |
| 16:56.12 | kergoth | i don't know anything about java-library.bbclass, but perhaps ou have to write your own do_install? |
| 16:58.50 | Goddchen | ah sry |
| 16:58.51 | Goddchen | it's there |
| 16:58.53 | Goddchen | tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/all/libconcierge-java_1.0-r0.2_all.ipk |
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| 17:00.35 | kergoth | did you add libconcierge-java to IMAGE_INSTALL for the image in question? try that |
| 17:01.11 | Goddchen | in there is a data.tar.gz file and in there is /usr/share/java/concierge.jar |
| 17:01.19 | Goddchen | ok let me try |
| 17:05.43 | Goddchen | hey, you got it :) |
| 17:05.46 | Goddchen | it's working |
| 17:08.01 | Goddchen | wohoooo :D |
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| 17:26.51 | Goddchen2 | one more question: how do i generate a uboot image to flash to my board? |
| 17:32.35 | Goddchen2 | or is it this one? at91sam9g20df-dataflashboot-2.10-r1.bin |
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| 17:54.50 | hrw | morning |
| 17:55.25 | hrw | Goddchen: "bitbake u-boot" |
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| 20:55.48 | pb__ | re |
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| 21:03.52 | pb__ | which package contains the scripts that are normally used to bring the network up at boot time? ifupdown, initscripts, something else? |
| 21:04.28 | pb__ | presumably not ifupdown since that'd lose if you're using busybox |
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| 21:18.35 | pb__ | florian: good evening |
| 21:28.34 | florian | hi |
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