| 00:00.11 | Gnutoo | it's for loading 2.4 kernel modules |
| 00:00.17 | Gnutoo | I think so |
| 00:01.09 | Gnutoo | yes it is |
| 00:01.48 | Gnutoo | its source is in /uClibc-0.9.30.1/libc/sysdeps/linux/common/query_module.c |
| 00:02.45 | Gnutoo | http://rafb.net/p/xHYCee65.html |
| 00:03.44 | Gnutoo | ah ok I understand...it should be because I've built with 2.6 headers but I was told that there were no problem to do so |
| 00:03.46 | Gnutoo | but: |
| 00:03.52 | Gnutoo | *I had nptl problems |
| 00:04.02 | Gnutoo | *and now I've this problem |
| 00:04.06 | khem | I would say if you have kernel-header problems |
| 00:04.20 | khem | hmmm |
| 00:04.28 | khem | 2.6 and 2.4 is wider gap |
| 00:04.31 | Gnutoo | what should I do? recompile uclibc? change the kernel headers? |
| 00:04.37 | khem | both |
| 00:04.54 | Gnutoo | I'm stuck with 2.4 on my device...I can't change the kernel... |
| 00:04.55 | khem | use kernel headers which are more closer to your real kernel |
| 00:05.04 | Gnutoo | ok thanks |
| 00:05.05 | khem | and then recompile uclibc using those headers |
| 00:05.11 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 00:05.22 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot |
| 00:05.25 | khem | I am sure there are santized headers for 2.4 |
| 00:05.41 | khem | look around. If you dont find we can cobble something together |
| 00:05.43 | Gnutoo | what do you mean by sanitized? |
| 00:05.50 | khem | leaves |
| 00:05.51 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 00:06.41 | BusError | fixed the directfb problem, by upgrading to directfb 1.3 |
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| 00:47.45 | ntfn | dangit how do i fix a bitbake md5sum oopz |
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| 04:23.58 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07fso/milestone5.5 * rfa029f4bf5 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/sqlite/sqlite3_3.6.5.bb): sqlite3: update to 3.6.5 |
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| 06:07.43 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6f4ba50ad3 10openembedded.git/recipes/xserver-kdrive-common/ (xserver-kdrive-common/Xserver xserver-kdrive-common_0.1.bb): xserver-kdrive-common: fix Xserver script to detect overo and run xorg |
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| 06:37.48 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07stable/2009 * rbbf4c102a8 10openembedded.git/recipes/gdbm/gdbm_1.8.3.bb: |
| 06:37.48 | CIA-2 | gdbm: use LDFLAGS (fixes QA error) |
| 06:37.48 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 06:37.48 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> |
| 06:37.58 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) <raster@rasterman.com> 07stable/2009 * rf8bdf2dd32 10openembedded.git/recipes/ltrace/ltrace_0.4.bb: |
| 06:37.58 | CIA-2 | ltrace: fix build (at least for omap3) |
| 06:37.58 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 06:37.58 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> |
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| 07:10.14 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 07:13.58 | akheron | hmm, my email to openembedded-devel was rejected |
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| 07:16.22 | mckoan | akheron: ML si not moderated, so why you say that? |
| 07:16.30 | mckoan | s/si/is |
| 07:17.15 | akheron | I got a reply: "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected." etc |
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| 07:17.48 | mckoan | akheron: did you subscribe before? |
| 07:17.51 | akheron | does it check the From: address against all subscribers? |
| 07:18.03 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r272ae318b0 10openembedded.git/ (7 files in 3 dirs): udev: add 141, needs more work since it only creates static libs and the OE-only kernel match patch needs to get evaluated |
| 07:18.07 | akheron | yes, but my subscriber address is of the form user+openembedded-devel@domain.com |
| 07:18.23 | akheron | to automatically move the messages to openembedded-devel box |
| 07:19.08 | mckoan | akheron: I think that's not important |
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| 07:19.33 | mckoan | akheron: did you receive a subscription confirmation? |
| 07:19.55 | akheron | yes, and I can log in to mailman |
| 07:20.26 | mckoan | akheron: did you acknowledge the subscription confirmation? |
| 07:20.30 | akheron | actually, I've subscribed already in Oct 2008 |
| 07:20.41 | akheron | and have been receiving mail from the list since that |
| 07:20.59 | akheron | so there should be no problem with the subscription |
| 07:21.28 | mckoan | akheron: so you was already subscribed with the same address, wasn't you? |
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| 07:24.32 | akheron | hmm? |
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| 07:25.13 | akheron | i'm subscribed with user+openembedded-devel@domain.com and sent mail From: user@domain.com |
| 07:25.34 | akheron | To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org |
| 07:26.56 | akheron | ... and was rejected |
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| 07:37.16 | mckoan | akheron: of course it was rejected, you must use the same address you used to subscribe. |
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| 07:46.46 | akheron | ok, so the + part matters after all |
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| 08:39.01 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, console-image build and seem work of Kaleios distro for qemux86 target ... now building x11-image |
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| 08:49.17 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: thanks |
| 08:49.44 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: I successfully built x11-image yesterday night with stable branch |
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| 09:03.50 | methril|work | morning |
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| 09:39.47 | CIA-2 | 03Dirk Opfer <dirk@do13.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf374f6e0e6 10openembedded.git/recipes/uclibc/uclibc.inc: uclibc: use LDFLAGS for ldd and ldconfig (fixes QA error) |
| 09:49.28 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, x11-image with KaleiOS work better than Angstrom for me !!! |
| 09:49.54 | BusError | hrw|gone, If you wish to have a look, I have a couple of patches for directfb (a 1.3.0 recipe) and cairo-directfb (a 1.8.0 recipe) into git://repo.or.cz/openembedded/mini2440.git head "for-upstream"... these were against stable/2009 but they go into -dev of course. I separated the 'checksum' patch because it might not apply easy on -dev |
| 09:50.01 | gremlin[it] | - progressbar on splash don't increase |
| 09:50.08 | gremlin[it] | + keyboard work |
| 09:50.18 | gremlin[it] | mouse don't work (as angstrom) |
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| 10:04.00 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: ok, this afternoon I'll test it on a vortex86sx |
| 10:04.51 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, probably adding modules for ps/2 mouse on the kernel and/or final image will make also mouse work |
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| 10:11.14 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: may be |
| 10:13.29 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdf32f8c84d 10openembedded.git/recipes/images/initramfs-image.bb: initramfs-image: Make sure static busybox gets into the initfs image. |
| 10:13.29 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r99fc9b7e92 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/micro2440.conf: micro2440.conf: New device: FriendlyARM micro2440 |
| 10:13.30 | CIA-2 | 03Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0328f2d784 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (14 files in 2 dirs): linux: initial micro2440 support for 2.6.29 using mini2440 kernel patches. |
| 10:14.57 | BusError | florian, didn;t knew you have write access. care to pull the rest of my mini patches ? |
| 10:16.29 | florian | BusError: sounds like a good idea. let me take a look |
| 10:16.36 | florian | always likes patches |
| 10:17.48 | pb_ | florian: good morning |
| 10:17.56 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1705a068b0 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/haserl/haserl_0.9.25.bb): haserl: update to 0.9.25 |
| 10:17.57 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3b164e7cc7 10openembedded.git/recipes/packagekit/packagekit_0.4.6.bb: packagekit: fix RDEPENDS |
| 10:17.57 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * re91620e695 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev |
| 10:17.58 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r878f0abaac 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/gnome/gnome-bluetooth_2.27.4.bb): gnome-bluetooth: add 2.27.4 |
| 10:18.15 | florian | pb_: hillct |
| 10:18.16 | BusError | florian, check the dev-mini-stable branch on my OE tree. |
| 10:18.22 | florian | hi pb_ :) |
| 10:18.26 | pb_ | heh |
| 10:18.37 | florian | gnaa |
| 10:18.57 | florian | BusError: ok, i'll take look in a few minutes |
| 10:19.17 | florian | as soon as I found out why this stupd device here fails to start! |
| 10:35.58 | flameman | hello |
| 10:36.04 | flameman | could someone help me ? |
| 10:36.20 | florian | flameman: just ask |
| 10:36.31 | flameman | i want to use the bitbake to check out kernel tree and patches for zaurus/akita |
| 10:37.01 | flameman | i launched -c fetch virtual/kernel |
| 10:37.18 | flameman | an the bitbake fetches |
| 10:37.47 | flameman | then i launched -c prepare but it issues errors that i can't understand |
| 10:37.55 | flameman | is this procedure right ? |
| 10:39.01 | pb_ | '-c prepare' doesn't sound right. where did you get that from? |
| 10:39.14 | flameman | gremlin suggestion |
| 10:39.16 | florian | '-c configure' might be better |
| 10:39.25 | pb_ | if you just want to patch, try '-c patch' |
| 10:39.30 | pb_ | or yes, '-c configure' |
| 10:39.47 | flameman | i want to obtain a kernel tree for akita + patch, or ... better a patched kernel :P |
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| 10:49.58 | flameman | ok i launched -c configure :P |
| 10:59.27 | pb_ | well done |
| 11:27.51 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r29b717d285 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: add avr32 gdb patch |
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| 11:34.54 | flameman | damn |
| 11:35.05 | flameman | -c configure is building stuff |
| 11:35.10 | flameman | i do not want it ! |
| 11:35.20 | flameman | i only want to fetch the sources |
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| 11:44.08 | akheron | -c fetch |
| 11:44.24 | flameman | i did -c fetch |
| 11:44.48 | ant_work | possibly bb is building the -native stuff to manage a kernel |
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| 11:45.06 | flameman | :P |
| 11:45.45 | akheron | -c unpack or -c patch ? |
| 11:46.01 | flameman | -c fetch download things from the web, umm may be i should combine fetch + patch |
| 11:46.12 | flameman | yes, fetch, unpack, patch |
| 11:46.22 | flameman | let me try out :) |
| 11:46.34 | akheron | bitbake -c patch runs do_fetch and do_unpack too |
| 11:46.45 | akheron | you don't have to do it manually |
| 11:47.31 | flameman | ah, ok, so -c patch only |
| 11:47.49 | ant_work | flameman: You can list all tasks for a given recipe with 'bitbake -c listtasks <package_name>'. |
| 11:48.19 | flameman | good ! |
| 11:49.23 | flameman | and_work the zaurus has been working since our last pm |
| 11:49.36 | flameman | it seems nothing has been damaged |
| 11:50.03 | ant_work | I've found out that only C-7x0 models could have the fuse(s) blown |
| 11:50.09 | flameman | (also the recharge led is orange ) |
| 11:50.28 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... i remember a thread on the ML about how to clean all except native and cross tools on OE ... someone remember how to do (if it's just a couple of commend) ? |
| 11:50.29 | flameman | mmm no, i am quite sure the c1000 has an half diode bridge |
| 11:50.47 | flameman | in order to protect the power circuit |
| 11:50.56 | ant_work | a different beast |
| 11:51.16 | flameman | - ok, i launched -c patch, crossing my fingers :P |
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| 11:58.34 | flameman | ok i get the 2.6.23 source tree :P |
| 11:58.36 | flameman | yahoooooooooooooo |
| 11:59.36 | flameman | thanks to everybody :) |
| 11:59.36 | ant_work | keep fingers crossed ... |
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| 12:03.50 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r883da3d954 10openembedded.git/recipes/python/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:03.50 | CIA-2 | python 2.6.1: fix build for architectures lacking libffi support |
| 12:03.50 | CIA-2 | * if your patch does: +res = os.system(cmd) ; print "ret %d" % res, DO NOT change the second 'res' to 'ret'! |
| 12:03.50 | CIA-2 | * this fixes a regression since python 2.5.x |
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| 12:27.43 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: I'm booting x11-image on vortex86sx just now |
| 12:29.24 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, good ... now i try KaleiOS with rpm package ... |
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| 12:36.05 | m-g-l | hmm, building helloword-image fails on fetching http://tinylogin.busybox.net/downloads/tinylogin-1.4.tar.bz2 since its not available any more (tinylogin merged into busybox). |
| 12:39.25 | hrw | morning |
| 12:39.35 | gremlin[it] | m-g-l yes tinylogin no more exist (about) |
| 12:39.38 | gremlin[it] | hi hrw ! |
| 12:39.50 | hrw | got EDB9301 devboard today |
| 12:40.19 | gremlin[it] | hrw, cirruslogic ? |
| 12:40.23 | hrw | yes |
| 12:40.54 | gremlin[it] | hrw, ... bleahhhhh i got a couple of custom EP9307 boards ... worst documentation i never saw :( |
| 12:41.19 | hrw | gremlin[it]: you use it? |
| 12:41.57 | gremlin[it] | hrw, yes ... i did a Linux BSP for such board ... before start use OE |
| 12:42.38 | gremlin[it] | mainly little modification on eth, serial and i2c and custom LCD |
| 12:43.34 | gremlin[it] | http://www.gremlin.it/download/gremlin-ep9307a.jpg |
| 12:43.37 | gremlin[it] | http://www.gremlin.it/download/gremlin-ep9307b.jpg |
| 12:44.39 | hrw | gremlin[it]: big |
| 12:44.50 | hrw | edb9301 is just a bit bigger then ngw100 |
| 12:45.14 | gremlin[it] | hrw, yes the display is a 7" ... |
| 12:46.12 | gremlin[it] | hrw, it have a bit power supply on board ... 3xUSB 4 or 5 SERIAL ... a RF module ... some othe stuff i don't remember |
| 12:47.20 | m-g-l | working on org.openembedded.dev branch I can see that IMAGE_LOGIN_MANAGER defaults to tinylogin in image.bbclass - I assume this needs to be fixed to "busybox" right? |
| 12:49.11 | m-g-l | as tinylogin is now merged into busybox... |
| 12:53.31 | hrw | I hate redboot |
| 12:55.23 | Gnutoo | hi, I need help on strategy: |
| 12:55.27 | gremlin[it] | hrw, i agree !!! |
| 12:56.07 | Gnutoo | I've a 2.4.19-rmk7-omap1 kernel |
| 12:56.12 | hrw | RedBoot> load -m TFTP zImage-ep9301 |
| 12:56.12 | hrw | Unrecognized image type: 0xe1a00000 |
| 12:56.15 | hrw | etc |
| 12:56.28 | hrw | Gnutoo: flush it in toilet and use 2.6 |
| 12:56.37 | hrw | -> off for some |
| 12:56.44 | Gnutoo | hrw, lol...I can't there are proprietary modules |
| 12:57.02 | Gnutoo | hrw|gone, by the way serial works with reedboot |
| 12:57.12 | Gnutoo | (xyzmodem transfers) |
| 12:58.47 | Gnutoo | so I was saying...that I've a 2.4 kernel =>no nptl |
| 12:59.04 | Gnutoo | so I need to chose a libc...which one should I choose? |
| 12:59.17 | Gnutoo | and I think I'll use 2.4 headers |
| 12:59.29 | Gnutoo | uclibc would work without ntpl I think |
| 12:59.37 | Gnutoo | but will eglibc work? |
| 12:59.45 | Gnutoo | recent glibc won't |
| 13:01.07 | CIA-2 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r617ed6a71a 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 5 dirs): hipox: HIPOX machine uses u-boot-2009.03 for NOR/NAND combi boot |
| 13:09.58 | CIA-2 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2ec3ed3b79 10openembedded.git/recipes/u-boot/u-boot-2009.03/hipox/00-hipox.patch: u-boot: tiny printout for HIPOX machine fixed |
| 13:14.45 | hrw|gone | Gnutoo: headers 2.6 + glibc 2.3.5 |
| 13:15.07 | hrw|gone | Gnutoo: openzaurus setting you should try to |
| 13:15.31 | Gnutoo | ok thanks...I tried header 2.6+uclibc but I couldn't compile modutils |
| 13:17.08 | Gnutoo | but will this old glibc be compatible with most of the applications? |
| 13:17.24 | Gnutoo | else I could find patches for glibc 2.6 |
| 13:17.28 | Gnutoo | s/2/6/2.5 |
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| 13:30.49 | NekoXP_ | anyone know why I am getting "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'split'" from BitBake set up as per the wiki? |
| 13:30.58 | NekoXP_ | wrong python, crappy linux distro? |
| 13:33.33 | NekoXP_ | also is /stuff/bitbake/lib/bb/COW.py:29: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated a problem? |
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| 13:53.48 | NekoXP_ | tried with bitbake 1.8.12 and from svn and the same effect.. sigh >.< |
| 13:54.07 | hrw | morning |
| 13:54.45 | hrw | DeprecationWarning are harmless |
| 13:56.49 | NekoXP_ | fair enough |
| 13:56.56 | NekoXP_ | the attributeerror bit is annoying me though |
| 13:57.16 | NekoXP_ | I have a developer who says he's running suse 11.0 and python 2.5 and it works.. I've got 11.1 and 2.6 and it doesn't.. |
| 13:57.38 | NekoXP_ | bitbake shouldn't know the difference though right? the ubuntu package of bitbake didn't change when they moved to python 2.6 |
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| 14:11.58 | tsjsieb | has anyone of you ever had this error while trying to compile a kernel (in this case in OE, using devshell) |
| 14:12.00 | tsjsieb | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-rpath-link,/home/hakkesteegt/oe/stable_2009/build/tmp/staging/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib' |
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| 14:17.48 | woglinde | ~seen rp |
| 14:17.50 | ibot | rp is currently on #maemo (20h 6m 27s) #handhelds (20h 6m 27s) #oe (20h 6m 27s) #openmoko (20h 6m 27s), last said: 'hi XorA '. |
| 14:17.53 | woglinde | hi |
| 14:18.06 | XorA | woglinde: bah you woke me :-) |
| 14:18.19 | woglinde | gm xora |
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| 14:36.18 | woglinde | hi booxter |
| 14:36.44 | booxter | hi |
| 14:47.38 | hrw | uf... |
| 14:47.43 | hrw | [42949376.830000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0) |
| 14:47.46 | hrw | progress |
| 14:47.47 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 14:48.49 | hrw | ~curse edb9301 for using 57600 for redboot |
| 14:48.50 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, edb9301 for using 57600 for redboot ! |
| 14:49.22 | woglinde | uh |
| 14:56.50 | hrw | fsking redboot |
| 14:57.08 | hrw | load -v -r -b 0x01000000 /zImage-ep9301;exec -c"console=ttyAM0,57600n8 root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp nfsroot=192.168.1.112:/srv/nfs/at91" |
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| 15:13.38 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:14.22 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 15:16.37 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r79e58369ba 10openembedded.git/recipes/libfribidi/libfribidi-native_0.10.4.bb: libfribidi: add native version |
| 15:16.38 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf7c65b66ca 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (evas-native_svn.bb evas.inc): evas: use fribidi-native package |
| 15:16.38 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9e28cecc90 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: efl: update to srcrev with fribidi build fixes and e win management fixes |
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| 15:28.33 | woglinde | hi jay7 |
| 15:28.47 | hrw | mickeyl, jay7: hi |
| 15:29.07 | hrw | uf.. edb9301 boots |
| 15:29.22 | hrw | 2.6.29+patch |
| 15:30.06 | ppafin | Been facing following problem with gumstix oe: http://pastebin.com/m7d8ed2b4 |
| 15:32.46 | Jay7 | woglinde, hrw: morning :) |
| 15:33.37 | ppafin | Any one seen this? |
| 15:34.44 | woglinde | hm seems curl is missing some deps |
| 15:35.13 | ppafin | Strange, any clues how I can check out which ones? |
| 15:37.13 | woglinde | hm mkdir is in coreutils |
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| 15:38.08 | ppafin | how do I check that coreutils are ok? |
| 15:38.20 | hrw | bitbake coreutils-native will probably help |
| 15:38.40 | ppafin | I've been building with oe to gumstix for few months, but it's still striking me some times ;) |
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| 15:46.34 | kergoth | huh, going to have to read through these amd64 patches |
| 15:47.39 | hrw | o... I am surprised |
| 15:47.48 | hrw | edb9301 ethernet do 22Mbps |
| 15:49.34 | woglinde | hrw hm? |
| 15:51.01 | hrw | woglinde: edb9301 has onboard ethernet which do 22Mbps (according to iperf). nice value compared to other devices |
| 15:55.15 | woglinde | okay |
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| 16:07.06 | hrw | http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2009/04/15/edb9301-hacking/ |
| 16:12.11 | hrw | http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/3444358903/ |
| 16:13.55 | mickey|ICE875 | that has to wait until i'm home :) |
| 16:14.03 | mickey|ICE875 | 3k/sec no worky |
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| 16:16.43 | alphaone | mickey|ICE875: Fix PPP/3G on the HTC :-) |
| 16:17.04 | mickey|ICE875 | ~shoot alphaone |
| 16:17.05 | ibot | ACTION shoots alphaone in the head with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 16:17.24 | mickey|ICE875 | :D |
| 16:17.59 | mickey|ICE875 | nah, I'll rather continue to whine about it on #htc-linux ;) |
| 16:18.07 | hrw | mickeyl: time for closed phone with 3g? |
| 16:18.08 | alphaone | mickey|ICE875: That's the spirit |
| 16:18.17 | alphaone | mickey|ICE875: So how long until they ban you? |
| 16:18.19 | alphaone | :-) |
| 16:18.26 | woglinde | ~lart llvm for using IO_putc |
| 16:18.26 | ibot | executes killall -HUP llvm for using IO_putc |
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| 16:19.25 | mickey|ICE875 | hrw: looks like it. as no vendors are putting out open 3g phones, we're back to anti-vendor-ports again... welcome to 2002 *cough* |
| 16:19.56 | hrw | 2002 is better then om-gta01/02 anyway ;D |
| 16:20.14 | woglinde | hrw *g* |
| 16:20.16 | mickey|ICE875 | nah |
| 16:20.21 | mickey|ICE875 | that's wrong |
| 16:20.39 | mickey|ICE875 | a buzz-fixed gta02 is pretty good |
| 16:21.10 | hrw | mickey|ICE875: but has gsm modem from <2002 |
| 16:21.14 | vsr | what is the significance of GUI_MACHINE_CLASS in machine.conf file? |
| 16:21.15 | mickey|ICE875 | still I'd love to have something faster |
| 16:21.28 | hrw | vsr: forget about it basically |
| 16:21.29 | mickey|ICE875 | vsr: basically none. it's a legacy |
| 16:21.44 | vsr | is there any way we need to specify about resolution of the lcd somewhere |
| 16:22.01 | vsr | or this is adjusted dynamically by XServer |
| 16:22.17 | woglinde | vst hm with newer xserver and edid you shouldnt have to do this |
| 16:22.27 | vsr | using info provided by fb driver |
| 16:22.28 | vsr | okay |
| 16:22.51 | mickey|ICE875 | there's no need to, but feel free to provide these information in the machine.conf |
| 16:22.57 | mickey|ICE875 | some utilities could use it |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-2 | 03Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3bbbc7dabc 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-2 | linux: make 2.6.29 default for ep93xx (tested on edb9301) |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-2 | - added EDB9301 support (from LAKML) |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-2 | - hacked machine ID of EDB9301 (board here has other then official one) |
| 16:23.05 | mickey|ICE875 | like, for instance, prerendering icons during build time |
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| 16:23.36 | vsr | with xserver-xorg i have not been able to use xcalibrate. i enabled it that is Xextention init was not being called in the function which calls inits of all extention. but it is not working at all |
| 16:23.38 | hrw | second devboard in this week took to 2.6.29 ;D |
| 16:24.03 | woglinde | hrw remove the old cruft? |
| 16:24.04 | vsr | is there any way to get xcalibrate working with xserver-org or xserver-org used xinput extention only |
| 16:24.17 | hrw | http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/3445158164/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/3423727862/ |
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| 16:24.33 | hrw | ops.. forgot to update defconfig in OE |
| 16:24.46 | woglinde | hm so now lets see if qemu can handle llvm |
| 16:25.26 | Gnutoo | woglinde, hi I'm re-trying uclibc with kernel headers from 2.4.19(before it couldn't compile modutils because the kernel headers were 2.6.x) |
| 16:26.00 | woglinde | gnutoo ah right |
| 16:26.11 | CIA-2 | 03Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r24f749b45d 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/ (linux/ep93xx/defconfig linux_2.6.29.bb): linux: updated defconfig for ep93xx |
| 16:26.14 | woglinde | hm this is maybe not a uclibc problem only |
| 16:26.33 | hrw | http://www.run.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~martin/enp-compiling.html is nice page for RedBoot users |
| 16:26.39 | woglinde | args |
| 16:26.43 | woglinde | I forgot |
| 16:29.17 | vsr | anyone tried to use xtscalibrate routine with xorg here? |
| 16:29.42 | woglinde | vsr sorry nope |
| 16:30.52 | vsr | okay, i try hard to get that working since ppl are saying xserver-kdriver should not be used since no one supports that |
| 16:33.00 | mickey|ICE875 | who are these people? |
| 16:33.07 | mickey|ICE875 | kdrive still works fine on many platforms |
| 16:33.11 | mickey|ICE875 | where as xorg may not yet |
| 16:33.32 | mickey|ICE875 | xorg may be the future, but afaict it's not quite there yet |
| 16:34.10 | pb_ | yeah, kdrive is still the right answer for many situations. |
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| 16:35.27 | pb_ | xorg is still quite a lot bigger, for one thing, or at least it was last time I checked. |
| 16:35.58 | pb_ | and, although it's nice to have everything be a plugin with xorg, loading all those modules is slow if you only have a simple, fixed set of hardware. |
| 16:36.04 | vsr | okay i was scared of using kdrive since i thought it gone obselete soon |
| 16:36.10 | mickey|ICE875 | yep |
| 16:36.28 | vsr | why xorg does not support xcalibrate? |
| 16:36.30 | mickey|ICE875 | pb_: what's your take on the movement of ts calibration and filtering into the kernel? |
| 16:36.43 | mickey|ICE875 | kergoth: would also like to hear your opinion on that |
| 16:37.16 | woglinde | hm some qemu expert here? |
| 16:37.38 | pb_ | mickey|ICE875: I haven't been paying much attention to it, but putting it in the kernel seems like a fairly silly idea at first glance. |
| 16:37.58 | pb_ | vsr: probably just because nobody has bothered to merge it. you're welcome to do that if you want. |
| 16:38.52 | woglinde | how do to tell qemu to look up ld-uClibc.so.0 under oetmp2/staging/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/usr/lib/ instead of /lib/ |
| 16:39.17 | mickey|ICE875 | yeah, i've been wondering that myself. they're essentially duplicating the whole tslib infrastructure in kernelspace |
| 16:39.17 | mickey|ICE875 | only to bypass one userland module |
| 16:39.18 | vsr | what do you mean by merging it, there is already a xcalibrate extention, i was in xorg-devel. i heard that it is not supported since it is supposed to be part of xinput and xinput does not have support yet since xorg is designed for desktop machines |
| 16:39.19 | mickey|ICE875 | s/only/just/ |
| 16:39.55 | pb_ | mickeyl: right, it's hard to see what the benefit would be. |
| 16:40.24 | vsr | pb_: i will look into it further and try to do that. unfortunately it does not work right now with only minor modifications |
| 16:40.49 | pb_ | I guess you could argue that it's in some way "neater" for userspace programs to be delivered the touchscreen events ready-cooked, so that the coordinates they see correspond to screen pixels, but I can't really see that it makes a lot of difference in the real world. |
| 16:40.57 | mickey|ICE875 | and i don't buy the "minimize external dependencies" thing... |
| 16:41.14 | mickey|ICE875 | it's not like the kernel is standalone anyways |
| 16:41.28 | pb_ | well, quite. |
| 16:42.00 | pb_ | anyway, I would have thought that touchscreen filtering was as clear an example of "policy" as one might expect to see. don't the kernel dudes have a fixation on no policy in the kernel, or did they change their mind on that? |
| 16:42.01 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:42.27 | mwester | pb_: I completely agree -- it's totally inconsistent. |
| 16:43.18 | mwester | I don't mind it in-kernel, but if they accept that in-kernel then there are a number of other patches that I would like to see re-submitted for acceptance into the kernel. |
| 16:44.14 | pb_ | personally I would much rather see less stuff in the kernel, not more. I have felt for a long time that things like the virtual console (with accompanying fonts, keymaps and the like) belong more in user space than in the kernel. |
| 16:44.30 | pb_ | and touchscreen support is of course much the same as that stuff. |
| 16:45.26 | mickey|ICE875 | make sense, yeah |
| 16:48.46 | pb_ | quite apart from anything else, putting this sort of unnecessary thing into the kernel seems like it might be contributing to the general all-over bloat that seems to have been a feature of all recent 2.6 releases. it would be nice to do something to reverse that trend. |
| 16:49.11 | pb_ | s/2.6/2.x/ |
| 16:50.21 | mwester | I wish only for consistency. If the argument is that is is no longer reasonable to expect that a bare kernel can boot an embedded device, and that one must provide an initrd to do so (things like setting the mac addr, loading firmware to the network hardware), then I just cannot see the reason for touchscreen handling in-kernel. |
| 16:50.21 | hrw | have a nice rest of day |
| 16:50.47 | Gnutoo | mmm....| ./include/asm/param.h:14:52: error: asm/proc/page.h: No such file or directory |
| 16:50.55 | Gnutoo | I should look at that |
| 16:51.04 | Gnutoo | I bet I will have lot of similar errors |
| 16:51.42 | pb_ | mwester: yes, that's a reasonable point of view. |
| 16:53.21 | broonie | The argument for touchscreen filtering was that it was able to cut out context thrashes bouncing through user space. |
| 16:53.43 | pb_ | broonie: that's a spurious argument though, since calling through a shared library doesn't involve a context switch |
| 16:53.43 | broonie | So it provided a performance win that couldn't be emulated with a pure userspace solution. |
| 16:54.08 | broonie | It wasn't the shared library, it was the I/O overhead for pulling in the points. |
| 16:54.33 | tharvey | are there any recipes that create (CF/SD/USB/etc) disk images from items in deploy, ie partition and extract, etc - I use an external script and am wondering if it would be easy to do as a recipe - would need root access to mount partitions etc |
| 16:54.47 | broonie | notes that if this is rubbish you should push back on the patch set, I've not actually evaluated what they're doing here at all. |
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| 16:56.33 | pb_ | broonie: that does sound a bit bogus to me. the overhead of a syscall is, what, a couple of hundred nanoseonds? Even if you had 1000 points per second to process, which is implausibly large for current touchscreens, you'd save less than a millisecond of system call overhead. |
| 16:56.50 | broonie | It wasn't the syscalls themselves AIUI. |
| 16:56.50 | pb_ | so that's a lot of kernel infrastructure for something below 0.1% speedup |
| 16:58.09 | pb_ | ah. what was it, exactly? I'm struggling to think what else "context thrashes" could be referring to. |
| 16:58.34 | pb_ | if it's not context switches, and not syscalls, that doesn't seem to leave much. |
| 16:58.53 | broonie | Scheduling the user space process. Though looking at their page it appears that it was actually just crap filtering they wanted to improve |
| 16:58.56 | broonie | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters |
| 16:59.38 | broonie | Context switch in this case == thread/process switch |
| 17:00.45 | pb_ | right, I see. |
| 17:01.23 | pb_ | that rationale does seem pretty flaky to me. the only case where you would get a significant win in performance would be if you are throwing away a large percentage of the raw touchscreen events in the filtering. |
| 17:01.35 | broonie | They are doing so, their touchscreen is crap. |
| 17:01.58 | pb_ | i.e. if you either have a filter algorithm which takes many input events to produce a single output, or if you're just discarding one in N (for some moderate N) as being complete garbage. |
| 17:02.14 | pb_ | and, in either of those cases, it sounds like you're basically onto a loser anyway. |
| 17:02.21 | pb_ | oh, right, fair enough. |
| 17:02.48 | pb_ | yeah, if your hardware is that awful then I can see it being attractive at least on paper. |
| 17:02.56 | broonie | Yeah, if you're hardware's good you're fine. |
| 17:03.18 | pb_ | I'm still not very convinced that it would translate to a measurable real-world speedup even in the lousy hardware case. Touchscreen events just don't arrive often enough for it to be a very big deal. |
| 17:03.45 | pb_ | and, if you _do_ have a high speed stream of touchscreen events, the scheduling quantum will take over and you will end up processing multiple events per context switch anyway. |
| 17:04.00 | broonie | You'd hope. |
| 17:04.08 | pb_ | I would. |
| 17:05.45 | kergoth | there seems to be a bit of hand waiving there |
| 17:05.52 | kergoth | "and our tests show that it's the right thing to do" |
| 17:05.56 | kergoth | and where are those test results? |
| 17:05.59 | pb_ | kergoth: yeah |
| 17:06.14 | pb_ | I was just trying to understand what they meant by "sending the event takes 8.45ms" |
| 17:06.20 | kergoth | nods |
| 17:06.54 | pb_ | anyway, gotta go buy some curtain fabric for wifey now. |
| 17:06.56 | pb_ | later all |
| 17:07.08 | broonie | I agree; I also suspect that the real problem is tslib filters. |
| 17:08.14 | kergoth | heh, patches welcome ;) |
| 17:09.31 | broonie | Well, the underlying problem is the ts hardware and the hardware I have to support generally seems to deliver good quality points :) |
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| 17:38.27 | Gnutoo | mmm...what are proc-armo proc-armv in the kernel headers? |
| 17:45.21 | Gnutoo | (what's the difference) |
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| 17:52.25 | Gnutoo | found it |
| 17:54.34 | Gnutoo | armo = 26bit and armv = 32bit |
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| 18:24.10 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rabf92f42db 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_1.5.3.bb: xserver-xorg: make avr32 build go a bit further |
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| 18:43.42 | ibot | timtim <n=meh@82-34-50-106.cable.ubr02.chel.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 176d 21h 1m 53s ago, saying: 'my tuppence... :)'. |
| 18:44.00 | markos_ | hm |
| 18:45.17 | markos_ | anyone seen Tim Ellis lately, 2 weeks ago he said I could test the zoneminder recipe but it's not committed yet to git |
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| 19:25.56 | pb___ | re |
| 19:26.56 | florian | pb___: wb |
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| 19:54.22 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: any news? |
| 20:00.26 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, no about sheevaplug ... this evening i talk with EBV guys |
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| 20:03.25 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: so we'll update tomorrow |
| 20:05.26 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, yes ... nad cross fingers when you sleep ! |
| 20:06.10 | ntfn | i do that everynight i start a build |
| 20:07.32 | mckoan | LOL |
| 20:08.02 | mckoan | usually my nightly builds are successful |
| 20:08.35 | ntfn | everything i toucch fails |
| 20:08.58 | mckoan | ntfn: keep off :-D |
| 20:09.03 | ntfn | like that skittles comercial only instead of skittles its fail |
| 20:09.39 | ntfn | but hey i just setup (included) oestats in my build env |
| 20:09.48 | mckoan|away | gn |
| 20:10.09 | ntfn | adios |
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| 20:16.59 | Gnutoo | mmm...busybox fails because a syscall is not avaliable ( http://rafb.net/p/8c618C75.html ) ...what should I do? |
| 20:17.13 | XorA | upgrade kernel? |
| 20:17.28 | Gnutoo | XorA, I can't |
| 20:17.39 | Gnutoo | I've proprietary drivers such as the framebuffer |
| 20:17.40 | XorA | code around it then |
| 20:17.48 | mwester | older busybox, I would expect |
| 20:17.49 | Gnutoo | ok but how? |
| 20:17.51 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 20:17.53 | gremlin[it] | use an older busybox ? |
| 20:17.58 | Gnutoo | ok I'll try |
| 20:18.26 | Gnutoo | evrything(except the kernel installation ) was successfull until now... |
| 20:18.53 | Gnutoo | (there were problems but I fixed them) |
| 20:18.57 | ntfn | prefered package ver |
| 20:20.20 | Gnutoo | i'll try CONFIG_MONOTONIC_SYSCALL |
| 20:22.34 | Gnutoo | mmm I already have it |
| 20:23.10 | Gnutoo | ah disabling not enabling...I'll try |
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| 20:33.41 | Gnutoo | I think that worked |
| 20:33.45 | Gnutoo | thanks |
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| 20:45.40 | Gnutoo | wow....it...works!!! |
| 20:46.28 | Gnutoo | let's bitbake something else than the minimal image then |
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| 21:02.35 | kergoth | hmm, bitbake really shouldn't dump the log with BBINCLUDELOGS when the reason for the task interruptions was a ^C |
| 21:19.52 | CIA-2 | 03Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman <raster@rasterman.com> 07fso/milestone5.5 * r1f792293a0 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (evas-native_svn.bb evas.inc): evas: use fribidi-native package |
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| 21:42.38 | dhd | hey, is there a wiki page or website somewhere detailing the proper configuration needed to bitbake canadian-sdk? |
| 21:42.52 | dhd | (for host=mingw32 and target=arm-linuxgnueabi) |
| 21:43.14 | dhd | I got tripped up because I needed to define SDK_EXEEXT and I'm wondering if there is other magic |
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| 21:46.10 | khem | bitbake task-sdk-canadian-host |
| 21:46.32 | dhd | ah I've been bitbaking canadian-sdk |
| 21:46.37 | dhd | I think that is the same thing, just packaged... |
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| 21:48.02 | dhd | there are a bunch of variables in canadian-sdk.bbclass, I was mostly wondering which ones I should be setting and where |
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| 21:55.12 | khem | dhd: may be look for SDK_* |
| 22:00.39 | CIA-2 | 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8993791a6b 10openembedded.git/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
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| 22:00.40 | CIA-2 | * Adds the latest release of quilt recipes. |
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| 22:00.49 | CIA-2 | 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra91ef39c62 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev |
| 22:06.22 | marex | florian, hi, first day of LE was quite fun, but really exhausting |
| 22:06.36 | marex | florian, I think the bootpack for TX might be ready soon |
| 22:06.43 | marex | btw. what about the patches ? |
| 22:08.47 | florian | marex: opps right, i'll take care of patches tomorrow. have some more to check in |
| 22:10.20 | Crofton|work | florian, any word on LinuxTag :) |
| 22:11.00 | Crofton|work | http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en/about/newsarchive/entry/article/linuxtag-call-for-projects-freie-projekte-nach-berlin.html |
| 22:11.06 | Crofton|work | this is confusing ... |
| 22:11.17 | florian | Crofton|work: no sorry |
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| 22:11.42 | Crofton|work | I suppose we have announced out participation |
| 22:12.57 | florian | Crofton|work: in vcc yes but not in public... and their multiple deadlines are even more confusing |
| 22:13.14 | Crofton|work | agreed |
| 22:14.02 | florian | remembers he wrote the submission at the last day of the original deadline |
| 22:14.18 | florian | but they had multiple deadlines last year too |
| 22:18.10 | marex | florian, no problem :) |
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| 22:19.27 | Jay7 | -> sleep |
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| 22:52.28 | ntfn | whatcha makin florian |
| 22:53.37 | florian | ntfn: kernel hacking, why? |
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| 22:57.48 | ntfn | just wondering |
| 22:58.09 | florian | ntfn: or because of the deadlines? |
| 22:58.20 | ntfn | deadlines |
| 22:58.31 | ntfn | suck |
| 22:58.55 | florian | ntfn: ah ok, we wnat to show oe at LinuxTag |
| 23:00.11 | florian | time to get some sleep |
| 23:00.14 | florian | good night |
| 23:01.00 | ntfn | adios |
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