| 00:06.51 | ant_ | temp fix: comment #6: xmodmap - </etc/X11/default.xmodmap |
| 00:08.36 | ant_ | 'nite |
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| 02:34.33 | gerwinin | seems asterisk is broken for avr32 |
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| 03:51.20 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r12f1eccf5a 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: bump srcrev for ixp4xx kernels |
| 03:51.20 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r129a3a934b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc: SlugOS: Select 2.6.27.8 kernel for SlugoS 5.1 |
| 03:51.21 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r43d4ea3c63 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:51.21 | CIA-5 | linux-ixpxx: add 2.6.27.8 recipe |
| 03:51.23 | CIA-5 | Preference set to -1 so there should be no impact |
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| 05:18.38 | CIA-5 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6532e3b471 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:18.38 | CIA-5 | SlugOS: lockdown the kernel version in slugos.conf to override ixp4xx.conf |
| 05:18.38 | CIA-5 | Also remove PREFERENCE nslu2 override in the kernel bb, as it does nothing at all. |
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| 07:16.36 | gerwinin | Seems I fixed asterisk trying out now |
| 07:16.39 | gerwinin | .... |
| 07:38.11 | CIA-5 | 03Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0b23e23c69 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/tosa.conf: |
| 07:38.11 | CIA-5 | tosa: specify screen dimensions |
| 07:38.11 | CIA-5 | Signed-off-by: Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com> |
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| 09:04.13 | Zta | Is oe really not available though the use of svn? Only git? |
| 09:04.31 | mickeyl | yes |
| 09:04.42 | Zta | hm ok. |
| 09:04.52 | mickeyl | git is ubiquitous these day |
| 09:04.52 | mickeyl | s |
| 09:05.06 | Zta | Is there a better name for the "stuff" directory? Or is "stuff" the standard name? |
| 09:06.23 | Zta | In my head "stuff" == "all sorts of junk I can't bother to categorize" |
| 09:07.57 | mickeyl | we deliberately chose that to indicate that you can name that as you like |
| 09:08.08 | mickeyl | most people call it 'build' or <machine-name> |
| 09:09.42 | Zta | Ah, I see. |
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| 09:22.18 | Zta | Minor typo in the openembedded/conf/local.conf.sample line 62: # Don't use symlinks in in the path to avoid problems |
| 09:23.13 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r84f78c8ed8 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-feed-configs.bb: angstrom feed configs: also package iwmmxt feed when present |
| 09:25.31 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbad2dd370b 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-feed-configs.bb: angstrom feed configs: also package iwmmxt feed when present |
| 09:28.22 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc0c680f46f 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-feed-configs.bb: angstrom-feed-configs: fix typo |
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| 09:46.16 | Zta | What is an Image and what is a Task? A Tasks sets of packages that are build and installed on an image? |
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| 09:47.33 | Zta | Do I need task-base together with helloworld-image? |
| 09:52.16 | mickeyl | yes |
| 09:52.20 | mickeyl | [on both questions] |
| 09:53.25 | CIA-5 | 03Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r170d66aacf 10openembedded.git/classes/siteinfo.bbclass: |
| 09:53.25 | CIA-5 | Fix compilation of Openembedded on ppc64 |
| 09:53.25 | CIA-5 | This adds ppc64-linux to the siteinfo list. |
| 09:53.25 | CIA-5 | Signed-off-by: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de> |
| 09:53.56 | mickeyl | lets see whether this gets reverted by commit-message-nazis |
| 09:59.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4918 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com |
| 09:59.07 | cdbot2 | * * x11 default keymap wrong on Zaurus c7x0 |
| 09:59.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4918 |
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| 10:07.50 | pb_ | mickeyl: heh |
| 10:08.16 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 10:08.18 | mickeyl | good morning pb_ |
| 10:08.38 | Zta | I keep finding these mega builds amazing.. |
| 10:08.46 | mickeyl | they are |
| 10:08.50 | mickeyl | so much power |
| 10:08.58 | mickeyl | building a distro from source is quite cool |
| 10:09.02 | Zta | So many lines of code |
| 10:09.43 | Zta | And so many hours of work compiled into a little image file. |
| 10:10.31 | Zta | And so many errors and hours of debugging to get to this result =) |
| 10:11.16 | ant_work | and still many bugs ;-) |
| 10:11.25 | ant_work | help :-D |
| 10:12.00 | ant_work | without Laibsch, nobody's talking about bug-weekend... |
| 10:13.29 | ant_work | queued 139 open tickets with patches |
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| 10:33.17 | nik0n | is an arm 920t capable of eabi? |
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| 10:34.03 | Zta | ack, glibc-2.6.1-r15 function do_configure failed |
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| 10:38.44 | Zta | Hm, intersting. glibc fails configure due to: LD_LIBRARY_PATH falsely. checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory My LD_LIBRARY_PATH is ":blah:blah". It seems as if that first ":" translates into ".:" Is that really right? |
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| 10:39.58 | Zta | oh, my term was ugly, so I messed up my sentence. I hope it still makes sense. |
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| 10:48.36 | pb_ | nik0n: yes |
| 10:48.51 | pb_ | you can use eabi on any cpu supporting armv4t or higher |
| 10:51.26 | pb_ | Zta: yes |
| 11:01.27 | Zta | pb_, I just made a simple test with PATH too, and it behaves the same way. I didn't know this =) I've always thought "." (e.g. ".:/usr/bin") should be used. I don't know if I like this. It doesn't make any sense =) |
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| 11:36.29 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 12:20.11 | thesing | morning all |
| 12:25.48 | ant_work | moin thesing |
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| 12:29.38 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb3a61b0cd7 10openembedded.git/packages/openbabel/openbabel_2.2.0.bb: openbabel: add 2.2.0 |
| 12:30.14 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3f80b0e801 10openembedded.git/packages/xorg-xserver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xserver-xorg-conf: simplify beagle config |
| 12:31.12 | CIA-5 | 03Robert Schuster <rschus@entw2.(none)> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc98bb8f4a7 10openembedded.git/packages/classpath/ (classpath-native.inc classpath.inc): |
| 12:31.12 | CIA-5 | classpath-native: Don't compile with -Werror. |
| 12:31.12 | CIA-5 | classpath: Don't compile with -Werror. |
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| 13:30.20 | CIA-5 | 03Andrew Straw <strawman@astraw.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r60d98775a2 10openembedded.git/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 13:30.20 | CIA-5 | python-traits: new recipe; explicitly typed attributes for Python |
| 13:30.20 | CIA-5 | Signed-off-by: Andrew Straw <strawman@astraw.com> |
| 13:30.32 | zecke | bbl |
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| 13:51.04 | nik0n | is there a way to clear all dependencys? |
| 13:51.04 | nik0n | i dont want to remove the tmp dir |
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| 14:14.09 | hrw | morning |
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| 14:36.23 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra61d3745d5 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-omap 2.6.27: make SGX drivers build |
| 14:36.32 | lumag | morning hrw |
| 14:40.46 | hrw | lumag: I got offer for yet another tosa donation |
| 14:40.51 | hrw | with sleeve |
| 14:42.03 | lumag | omg. |
| 14:42.23 | lumag | Thanks to mickeyl I do already have a sleeve. |
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| 14:43.20 | hrw | I know |
| 14:44.29 | lumag | I think one tosa w/ or w/o a sleeve would be enough. Other devices can go to other people for testing. |
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| 14:50.27 | hrw | you got mail |
| 14:56.24 | florian | needs more time |
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| 14:59.16 | Genesis | hi |
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| 14:59.26 | woglinde | hi |
| 14:59.38 | Genesis | yop woglinde :) |
| 15:02.48 | woglinde | hm tutroial in a few minutes |
| 15:03.54 | woglinde | okay bye |
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| 15:11.56 | florian | hi kergoth |
| 15:15.38 | kergoth | hey |
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| 15:21.21 | keesj | All you hardware are belong to US |
| 15:24.18 | hrw | keesj: ;) |
| 15:24.33 | hrw | keesj: speaking of hardware... |
| 15:24.58 | hrw | keesj: I have to rethink again.. to hack tomtom one v3 for SD card or not |
| 15:26.21 | keesj | is that possible? |
| 15:26.43 | hrw | yes |
| 15:26.56 | hrw | there are pads for SD slot on pcb |
| 15:29.00 | keesj | I think only the higher end models allow multiple active cards. ther other models that have internal storage switch at startup |
| 15:29.31 | hrw | keesj: so it will switch off 512MB flash in favour of 2GB SD card... |
| 15:29.50 | keesj | that sounds like a devent upgrade. |
| 15:30.47 | keesj | I do have some OE configs for tomtom but still having some troubles with the ancient kernel in combo with newer components |
| 15:30.59 | hrw | sdhc are also supported |
| 15:31.10 | hrw | but maps which interest me fit on 1-2GB |
| 15:31.57 | keesj | indeed Pierre helped backporting this mmc subsystem. I don't know what the bootloader does... |
| 15:32.35 | hrw | keesj: according to people on forum it is a matter of newer bootloader and sdhc works |
| 15:33.59 | hrw | keesj: http://rapidshare.com/files/132722063/modyfikacja_tomtom_bez_karty_256_512.rar.html had pdf with notes |
| 15:35.04 | keesj | You have reached the download limit for free-users :P |
| 15:35.48 | hrw | ah |
| 15:37.31 | hrw | http://rs354.rapidshare.com/files/133397325/tomtomzwiekszeniepmieci.zip |
| 15:39.40 | keesj | thanks will look at it at home |
| 15:41.02 | hrw | keesj: iirc it requre bootloader 5.5012 for sdhc |
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| 15:43.00 | jimsheldon | is there a variable that can be set in a bb file to build static binaries? |
| 15:43.09 | jimsheldon | or is that always a ./configure option? |
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| 15:55.58 | ant_work | hrw: hey |
| 15:56.05 | hrw | ho |
| 15:56.28 | ant_work | about that gcc-2.95 notes, does putting one .bb in /nonworking mask it? |
| 15:56.58 | ant_work | I think the same happened with gtk+-directfb |
| 16:01.39 | CIA-5 | 03Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra72c5b3bfc 10openembedded.git/packages/u-boot/ (10 files in 2 dirs): u-boot: update patches for boc01 machine |
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| 16:25.59 | Longfield | morning here |
| 16:26.47 | hrw | hi Longfield |
| 16:27.04 | Longfield | I have a question about the libs in OE, if I build a lib (for instance hal), how do I do so that my staging pkg-config is aware of this library I have built ? |
| 16:28.04 | hrw | it should be automatically if library recipe have proper do_stage |
| 16:29.12 | Longfield | even if the library was not added to the image ? |
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| 16:33.24 | hrw | images are just recipes.. |
| 16:34.57 | Longfield | hum ok I see ... because when I build hal for instance, pkg-config is not aware that this library now is built ... |
| 16:37.29 | hrw | let me build hal |
| 16:42.43 | Longfield | what does staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/pkg-config --list-all tell you when hal is built ? |
| 16:44.18 | Tartarus | if you pass th eirhgt env vars? :) |
| 16:46.27 | hrw | I have hal.pc in staging |
| 16:49.00 | Longfield | what do you mean by hal.pc ? hal listed by package-config ? |
| 16:50.54 | Longfield | because hal is correctly installed (tmp/staging/armv6-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libhal.so and tmp/staging/armv6-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/hal/libhal.h are present) |
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| 17:08.12 | Longfield | ok ... I have hal.pc too ... I guess I have found out what is wrong: I want to use the pkg-config for a cmake cross-compile, I think I have to setup the PKG_CONFIG_PATH env variable so that it points to my staging directory |
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| 18:00.12 | ant_work | XorA: hi |
| 18:01.05 | XorA | hey ant_work |
| 18:02.12 | ant_work | I identified the x11 keymap problem...digh..again xserver-common (oebug 4918) |
| 18:03.45 | ant_work | XorA: would you pls. make koen aware? Possibly other/all Zaurus keyboards are bad |
| 18:04.16 | XorA | ant_work: you just did, he reads the channel |
| 18:04.27 | ant_work | who knows..thelepathy? |
| 18:05.12 | khem | ant_work: work its a Movie made in Tamil language which means "The leader" :) |
| 18:05.42 | ant_work | wow |
| 18:06.36 | khem | I know nothing about this language though ;) |
| 18:12.44 | CIA-5 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9771c86014 10openembedded.git/packages/tracker/ (files/90tracker tracker_0.5.4.bb): tracker: add xsession file to launch daemon in low-mem mode, only indexing $HOME |
| 18:13.05 | ant_work | khem: I have strange issues with crosscompiler after rebuilding from pstage...something differs |
| 18:13.18 | khem | ant_work: yeah I remember you mentioned |
| 18:13.44 | ant_work | I suspect do_install should be checked |
| 18:13.49 | khem | ant_work: the difference is that when you are installing from pstage then it does not build the packages right ? |
| 18:13.58 | khem | it just populates the rfs |
| 18:14.14 | ant_work | well, the tree differs too |
| 18:14.27 | khem | hmmm which tree do you mean |
| 18:14.38 | ant_work | I mean the /cross dir |
| 18:14.44 | khem | ah |
| 18:15.07 | khem | files missing ? |
| 18:15.26 | ant_work | the error about gcc not able to create an executable..is a stupid test failing, isn't? |
| 18:15.39 | ant_work | or just gcc not found? |
| 18:16.04 | ant_work | I saw this yesterday on irc |
| 18:16.10 | ant_work | btw |
| 18:16.19 | khem | yes most probably it could be missing cc1 or ld or as |
| 18:16.28 | khem | something wrong in installation |
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| 18:16.50 | khem | Can you compile a helloworld program with the installed compiler from pstage |
| 18:17.15 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r14fdac3e6a 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-openmoko: enable 01's battery class only for 01, likewise for 02's battery class |
| 18:17.25 | ant_work | khem: I wipe /cross too, usually |
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| 18:17.45 | ant_work | all but /pstage |
| 18:18.14 | ant_work | khem: possibly I introduced chaos building in parallel glibc/uclibc |
| 18:18.35 | ant_work | a.k.a. multimachine |
| 18:19.14 | khem | ant_work: hmmm could be but they are two different installations I believe do they share /cross |
| 18:19.38 | ant_work | they have own subdirs but share some |
| 18:19.58 | khem | do u know what do they share |
| 18:20.06 | ant_work | it's a bit intricate..I found the compilers (binaries) in two places... |
| 18:20.13 | ant_work | for each libc |
| 18:20.17 | ant_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.19 | khem | they could share host tools |
| 18:20.32 | khem | but cross I believe should not be shared |
| 18:20.45 | ant_work | I have arm-angstrom-glibc-xxx |
| 18:20.57 | ant_work | and arm-angstrom-uclibcgnueabi-zz |
| 18:21.02 | khem | right |
| 18:21.33 | ant_work | iirc these subdir contain each a /bin dir with compilers |
| 18:21.43 | ant_work | (afk right now) |
| 18:21.55 | khem | ant_work: that should be ok to share dirs |
| 18:22.07 | ant_work | still the binaries are in shared /bin, IIRC |
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| 18:22.39 | ant_work | khem: I'll tell you in a couple of hours |
| 18:22.51 | khem | ant_work: ok |
| 18:23.09 | ant_work | fwiw the glibc one has gfortran |
| 18:23.11 | khem | I think it could be that somehow once install is deleting the directory first |
| 18:23.19 | ant_work | yhe uclibc only the symlink (broken) |
| 18:23.25 | khem | and thereby making the other unusable |
| 18:23.51 | khem | and if you just install for one of the libcs it would work |
| 18:23.59 | khem | can you verify that |
| 18:24.13 | ant_work | I'll do my best :-) |
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| 18:25.05 | khem | g77 is a absolute link that does not make sense |
| 18:25.11 | khem | hmm something is fishy |
| 18:27.11 | ant_work | bbl |
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| 19:32.27 | robtow | Good morning. A newbie question: I want to modify a target image, starting from consol-image; simply copying console-image recipe file to console-image2 doesn't work: |
| 19:32.48 | robtow | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.03 | robtow | Anyone know of a pointer to a basic tutorial to address this? |
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| 19:39.19 | keesj | I support for using external variables from withing bitake going away? |
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| 19:45.42 | florian | re |
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| 19:46.06 | kgilmer | hi florian |
| 19:49.03 | Crofton | kgilmer, cfp for fosdem embedded room should be out soon |
| 19:49.17 | Crofton | do you think you will do a buglab talk? |
| 19:49.34 | kgilmer | hi Crofton ... yes that's the plan :) |
| 19:50.01 | kgilmer | you'll be there as well Crofton ? |
| 19:50.18 | Crofton | 99% |
| 19:50.33 | Crofton | shoulder surgery went ok, so I should be in good shape by then |
| 19:50.46 | kgilmer | ah, ic |
| 19:50.48 | Crofton | get the abstract in asap :) |
| 19:51.05 | kgilmer | yeah I already did :) |
| 19:51.13 | Crofton | great |
| 19:51.17 | Crofton | to philippe? |
| 19:51.56 | kgilmer | no Tias Guns |
| 19:52.02 | kgilmer | it's a lightning talk though |
| 19:52.17 | Crofton | ah |
| 19:52.27 | Crofton | you should have tried for the embeded devrrom |
| 19:52.42 | kgilmer | i agree |
| 19:52.50 | kgilmer | any reason why i can't now? |
| 19:53.02 | Crofton | talk to tias |
| 19:53.14 | Crofton | you don't want to put him in a jam :) |
| 19:53.45 | Crofton | of course, I would check if you could use the lightneing talk as back up for the devroom |
| 19:54.17 | Crofton | the embedded devroom guy is philippe and he hangs out in here |
| 19:55.01 | kgilmer | got it, thx Crofton |
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| 19:56.42 | Crofton | ok, lightening talk acceptance is not until end of December, so you have time :) |
| 19:57.13 | kgilmer | yeah the 29th it looks like |
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| 20:02.46 | kgilmer | i emailed Tias Crofton, thanks again for your suggestion. |
| 20:03.45 | philippe | Around just now :) |
| 20:03.52 | Crofton | I suspect you could fill the 45 minute slot |
| 20:04.08 | Crofton | and you are very on topic for the embedded devroom :) |
| 20:04.27 | kgilmer | there is enough to talk about. i've covered bug from 5 mins to 3 hours :) |
| 20:04.38 | kgilmer | hi philippe |
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| 20:05.24 | philippe | hi kgilmer |
| 20:05.28 | kgilmer | we'd also like to give away a device or two at the conference... |
| 20:05.40 | philippe | so what us your proposal or topic exactly? |
| 20:07.08 | Crofton | http://www.buglabs.com/ |
| 20:07.11 | kgilmer | well it would vary depending on the audience, but for an OE specific crowd I'd cover the hardware and some interesting apps. I would probably not go too deeply into OE as everyone will probably know more about that than me. |
| 20:07.36 | Crofton | kgilmer, the embedded devroom is a broad embedded audience |
| 20:07.42 | Crofton | not OE specific |
| 20:07.48 | Crofton | some will know OE, some won't |
| 20:07.55 | kgilmer | ic Crofton |
| 20:08.23 | Crofton | what you are describing should work :) |
| 20:08.30 | kgilmer | philippe, I would talk about the BUG device and tune it to the specific audience. |
| 20:08.52 | kgilmer | i would probably avoid getting too deep in the java stuff as well. I guess it depends on how much interest there is. |
| 20:09.17 | philippe | kgilmer, about the devices you want to give away. Embedded specific target or whole Fosdem wide. |
| 20:09.20 | philippe | ? |
| 20:10.07 | kgilmer | good question. I'm not sure at this point what makes the most sense, although targeting embedded folks make a lot of sense. |
| 20:10.13 | Zta | So.. finally "bitbake task-base helloworld-image" finished. In /stuff/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/x86/ I see bzImage-x86.bin and helloworld-image-x86.tar.gz. Would I be able to load these into e.g. qemu and run them now? |
| 20:10.55 | kgilmer | we had a give-away at EclipseCon earlier this year and devices ended up with people that... probably didn't know how they could be used. |
| 20:10.57 | philippe | kgilmer, Both can be arranged |
| 20:11.10 | kgilmer | it probably makes sense to have at least one BUG for embedded folks only. |
| 20:11.30 | kgilmer | ok philippe maybe we can talk in email about the details. I'll emails you, ok? |
| 20:11.43 | philippe | would be great... |
| 20:12.04 | philippe | tries to check buglabs and write CFP at the same time |
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| 20:12.16 | kgilmer | :) |
| 20:14.34 | philippe | kgilmer, definitely embedded :) And I am trying to get more embedded HW stuff this Fosdem. So this fits great. |
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| 20:15.13 | kgilmer | awesome! |
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| 20:16.58 | kgilmer | ok philippe i emailed you and CCed a few people on my side as well to get the ball rolling. |
| 20:17.18 | philippe | kgilmer, thanks! |
| 20:18.21 | kgilmer | yep! we also blog about OE here if you're interested: http://community.buglabs.net |
| 20:20.39 | Crofton | can you snap together enough modules to make a phone? |
| 20:21.23 | kgilmer | VOIP phone soon with gsm data |
| 20:21.40 | kgilmer | but we don't have plans for a traditional phone module |
| 20:21.50 | kgilmer | that's what openmoko is for :) |
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| 20:27.18 | hrw | kgilmer: or you can add gsm/cdma module and use openmoko software for it |
| 20:27.28 | hrw | Crofton: the problem is that bug screen is just qvga |
| 20:29.12 | Genesis | i'll perharps be at fosdem too |
| 20:29.29 | Genesis | but with a new company, i left aldebaran . |
| 20:29.52 | woglinde | hi |
| 20:30.04 | woglinde | genesis oh |
| 20:30.48 | Genesis | as an unemployed , i work on http://objects.reprap.org/wiki/Robotic |
| 20:31.15 | Genesis | to provide what missed for all open source robotic : the hardware layer |
| 20:32.25 | Genesis | there is enough good software , interested people could have a look on http://people.mech.kuleuven.be/~bruyninc/robotstandards/roadmap-20071030.pdf resumes all software that could be interesting in robotic. |
| 20:33.06 | woglinde | genesis hm why didyou leave? |
| 20:33.17 | Genesis | it's the worse firm i never met |
| 20:33.18 | woglinde | no perspective? |
| 20:33.31 | Genesis | it was impossible to work there |
| 20:33.50 | Genesis | lot of noise, no discipline |
| 20:34.10 | Genesis | work stealer , with their name on my source |
| 20:34.22 | woglinde | urgs |
| 20:34.45 | kgilmer | true hrw |
| 20:38.59 | hrw | have a nice evening/day all |
| 20:42.34 | woglinde | bye hrw |
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| 21:18.00 | CIA-5 | 03Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r358927bd78 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:18.00 | CIA-5 | common-glibc: Add va_copy and _va_copy |
| 21:18.00 | CIA-5 | common-uclibc: Ditto |
| 21:18.00 | CIA-5 | mipsel: Add mipsel config for uclibc |
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| 21:40.02 | philippe | Crofton, thanks for forwarding stuff... there are way to many Phil(ip/pe)s around |
| 21:41.11 | Crofton | My friends are all impressed that I am the contact for thr beer event :) |
| 21:41.30 | woglinde | haha |
| 21:44.32 | XorA | whoa! free beer on philippe |
| 21:44.33 | XorA | :-) |
| 21:45.07 | philippe | XorA, maybe one :) |
| 21:45.31 | philippe | Crofton, well we already have a philippe gang in .be... |
| 21:45.58 | kgilmer | yeah sorry philippe and Crofton ... luckily for me I emailed to the other guy in the conversation :) |
| 21:46.26 | philippe | kgilmer, no problem. This happens more often. |
| 21:47.32 | XorA | new SMTP RFC where you can just email phil*@*.*.* and make sure the right guy gets the email. |
| 21:48.21 | philippe | XorA, well there will be a need for enough keywords... |
| 21:49.20 | mwester | phil*@*.*&beer won't do it? |
| 21:50.08 | kergoth | who's the angstrom maintainer again? |
| 21:50.19 | mwester | Isn't that Koen? |
| 21:50.24 | XorA | kergoth: me, koen, others |
| 21:50.42 | philippe | mwester, you might get all the phil* who like beer :) |
| 21:50.54 | kergoth | i'm wondering why console-image is named generically (not angstrom-console-image), yet the variables that control its behavior (i..e ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL) are distro specific |
| 21:51.03 | mwester | philippe: but that sounds like a good crowd to hang out with, then! |
| 21:51.12 | philippe | mwester, :) |
| 21:51.16 | XorA | kergoth: because people moaned that it was called angstrom-* |
| 21:52.18 | philippe | should finish renovating. Enough room here to do an OE summit + basement loaded with beer :) |
| 21:52.22 | kergoth | then you shouldve renamed the variables also. its inconsistent at best right now |
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| 21:54.19 | XorA | kergoth: I guess that could become DISTRO_EXTRA_INSTALL, Ill ask koen next time I speak to him |
| 21:55.05 | Crofton | hrw hates that var |
| 21:55.10 | kergoth | as is, it implies that the image is angstrom specific. the distro .conf can always default to setting the generic one based on the old variable for compatibility, if you really want to retain it... |
| 21:55.15 | Crofton | i want to rename it |
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| 22:41.46 | woglinde | hi thesing |
| 22:41.57 | thesing | hi woglinde, |
| 22:42.33 | thesing | how did the simpad patch porting go? |
| 22:44.33 | woglinde | thesing its booting |
| 22:44.40 | woglinde | but the driver needs some love |
| 22:44.50 | woglinde | i have checked all in |
| 22:44.58 | woglinde | maybee you have some time to look at it |
| 22:45.24 | woglinde | the most annoying bug ist with suspend the backlights are short turned off and on again |
| 22:48.20 | thesing | woglinde: and does ubifs work? |
| 22:48.34 | woglinde | hm didnt get compiled the utils yet |
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| 23:06.28 | ant_ | woglinde: have you tested the virtual libiconv? |
| 23:07.22 | woglinde | ant hm |
| 23:07.31 | woglinde | I have to test my work with glibc |
| 23:07.36 | woglinde | but didnt have the time yet |
| 23:07.41 | ant_ | np |
| 23:07.54 | woglinde | i can push it in branch if you like to try out |
| 23:07.55 | woglinde | mom |
| 23:11.36 | khem | woglinde: hey |
| 23:11.56 | khem | ant_: I have understood your problem with libintl.h I am able to reproduce it |
| 23:12.45 | khem | ant_: the issue is because of NLS support when you are building from scratch libstdc++ configure does not notice the gettext and hence configures without nls but when you build afterwards then it configures with nls |
| 23:13.12 | ant_ | ah, I see |
| 23:13.15 | khem | and the uclibc locale patch to gcc only checks if LOCALE support is turned on in uclibc it does not account for gettext |
| 23:14.04 | khem | I think the best solution is to make it not depend on uclibc define but on something which is more universal |
| 23:14.37 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:15.06 | woglinde | that would mean |
| 23:15.15 | woglinde | a fourth build of gcc |
| 23:15.25 | khem | woglinde: hehe no |
| 23:15.43 | khem | woglinde: We should fix the patch |
| 23:17.46 | ant_ | khem: in case you missed it, these are the diffs between installed-packages btw glibc and uclibcgnueabi |
| 23:17.48 | ant_ | http://rafb.net/p/CHStdp14.html |
| 23:18.04 | ant_ | woglinde: is the same I sent to you :-) |
| 23:19.47 | khem | ant_: yeah the gettext and libiconv is extra |
| 23:20.07 | khem | I wish we had something that would let console-image build without locales |
| 23:20.09 | ant_ | lately the uclibc image is bigger than glibc one...nasty |
| 23:20.17 | CIA-5 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1de9ccb8a2 10openembedded.git/ (19 files in 5 dirs): Python 2.6: here we are. WIP :) |
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| 23:21.35 | ant_ | khem: have you seen about the broken links g77 ? |
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| 23:22.30 | ant_ | for glibc seems fine |
| 23:22.33 | khem | ant_: yes I have fixed it locally |
| 23:22.40 | ant_ | super |
| 23:22.50 | khem | I wanted to test that and then ran into your previous problem |
| 23:22.52 | woglinde | ant I pushed it at woglinde/gettext |
| 23:22.55 | khem | and now I am trying to fix that |
| 23:23.02 | khem | so pandora of bugs |
| 23:23.14 | ant_ | he he as usual :-/ |
| 23:23.22 | woglinde | khem I am writing on gettext.bbclass too |
| 23:23.33 | khem | woglinde: are you able to get rid of gettext and build console-image on uclibc |
| 23:23.52 | woglinde | there I assume all native packages will be build without locales support |
| 23:24.29 | ant_ | I see in angstrom-uclibc.inc: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libiconv ?= "libiconv" |
| 23:24.29 | ant_ | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl ?= "gettext" |
| 23:25.56 | raster | bing |
| 23:28.19 | woglinde | he raster |
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| 23:28.45 | woglinde | ant did you compile uclibc with locales support? |
| 23:29.04 | lumag | evening! |
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| 23:29.24 | ant_ | woglinde: did not change anything... |
| 23:29.39 | ant_ | is standard angstrom-uclibc |
| 23:30.16 | khem | woglinde: no uclibc is not compiled with locale |
| 23:30.20 | ant_ | I see there: USE_NLS ?= "no" |
| 23:30.21 | woglinde | ant USE_NLS set to no or yes |
| 23:30.45 | khem | woglinde: that setting of USE_NLS has another bug it does not work right atm |
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| 23:32.00 | CIA-5 | 03woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07woglinde/gettext * ra29c4dc5f9 10openembedded.git/classes/gettext.bbclass: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:32.00 | CIA-5 | gettex.bbclass: reworking |
| 23:32.00 | CIA-5 | * first the assume nls is set |
| 23:32.00 | CIA-5 | * in the second step after parsing we |
| 23:32.00 | CIA-5 | look at USE_NLS and if it is set to no |
| 23:32.01 | CIA-5 | we strip out the gettext support |
| 23:32.05 | CIA-5 | * for native and cross packages we have to remove the virtual statements |
| 23:32.26 | woglinde | khem you could my gettext branch no |
| 23:32.30 | woglinde | +try |
| 23:32.33 | woglinde | now |
| 23:32.34 | woglinde | args |
| 23:32.51 | woglinde | hms |
| 23:33.09 | woglinde | you guys interrrupt suspend me from watching another |
| 23:33.09 | woglinde | you guys interrrupt suspend me from watching another Saiyuki - Paradise Raiders - Eps. 8 - The Man Who Foretells Death |
| 23:33.12 | woglinde | Saiyukiepsiode |
| 23:33.19 | ant_ | wtf ? |
| 23:33.25 | woglinde | ~lart cut and paste |
| 23:33.25 | ibot | nukes cut and paste with a single large nuke |
| 23:33.40 | raster | woglinde: booooo |
| 23:34.31 | ant_ | woglinde: I'm under impression you're largely wasting your time watching B-movies... |
| 23:34.43 | ant_ | (I adore some from '70) |
| 23:34.49 | woglinde | ant he its a funny anime series |
| 23:35.14 | ant_ | ah, not that kung-fu :-] |
| 23:35.18 | woglinde | no |
| 23:35.23 | woglinde | last to long |
| 23:37.00 | ant_ | he..the "welcome" of angstrom-uclibc.inc |
| 23:37.01 | ant_ | om-uclibc.inc [----] 0 L:[ 1+ 9 10/ 40] *(537 /2134b)= . 10 0x0A |
| 23:37.01 | ant_ | # uclibc: |
| 23:37.01 | ant_ | #fix some iconv issues, needs to be adjusted when doing uclibc builds |
| 23:37.33 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:37.41 | khem | woglinde: when do u plan to merge it |
| 23:37.51 | woglinde | khem when some confirms |
| 23:37.56 | woglinde | its not clashing with glibc builds |
| 23:38.11 | woglinde | one I trust |
| 23:38.15 | woglinde | like you or ant |
| 23:38.17 | woglinde | *g* |
| 23:38.30 | woglinde | my last commit broke glibc build |
| 23:38.33 | ant_ | better khem ^_^ |
| 23:38.35 | khem | think looking for scapegoats |
| 23:38.57 | woglinde | builbing glibc would last 4hours here |
| 23:39.14 | woglinde | one of the reasons I am at uclibc |
| 23:39.16 | khem | woglinde: just glibc or whole console-image ? |
| 23:39.23 | woglinde | glibc |
| 23:39.26 | woglinde | gcc |
| 23:39.48 | khem | thats PITA |
| 23:40.30 | khem | woglinde: I can cherry pick from your branch |
| 23:40.58 | woglinde | jepp |
| 23:41.04 | woglinde | thats it for |
| 23:44.54 | ant_ | khem: about oddities in crossdir: http://rafb.net/p/Wpyu6x45.html |
| 23:53.18 | khem | ant_: those look ok |
| 23:53.45 | khem | we do not build for objc and fortran when using uclibc |
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| 23:54.14 | khem | ant_: so uclibc one does not work |
| 23:54.25 | khem | and glibc one works when installed from pstage ? |
| 23:57.39 | ant_ | khem: I retry now |
| 23:58.27 | ant_ | ccache -c |
| 23:58.30 | ant_ | oops.. |
| 23:59.27 | thesing | did anybody try the uclibc locale support instead of libiconv? |