| 00:34.23 | CIA-26 | 03Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r88e8d54252 10openembedded.git/packages/images/fso-image.bb: fso-image: Use the correct name for the fso illume theme |
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| 01:46.04 | xxiao | well, monotone to git trigger me to learn OE today |
| 01:46.40 | xxiao | after installing all packages, git clone the whole OE, i don't know how to try the 'bitbake world' |
| 01:47.06 | xxiao | noticed there are a build/ and conf/*.conf, how can I use them to try one of it? |
| 01:47.30 | xxiao | the wiki site etc is not updated for git fully |
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| 03:44.34 | CIA-26 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc636a602e0 10openembedded.git/packages/images/fso-image-nox.bb: |
| 03:44.34 | CIA-26 | fso-image-nox: a small no-x11 fso image for the GTA01 and GTA02 |
| 03:44.34 | CIA-26 | (suitable for use as a rootfs for Qtopia or Qt Extended) |
| 03:44.45 | CIA-26 | 03Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r081088f32f 10openembedded.git/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): meta-toolchain-fso: bitbake recipes for a toolchain and SDK for fso. |
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| 04:35.45 | otavio | Hello; do someone has any idea why xorg can be ignoring xorg.conf keyboard layout? |
| 04:38.21 | otavio | Oh! it is using HAL |
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| 10:09.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4815 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 10:09.09 | cdbot2 | * * wireless-tools-29-autobuild |
| 10:09.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4815 |
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| 10:37.12 | mickeyl | morning folks |
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| 11:31.49 | mickeyl | anyone doing regular builds w/ 4.3.x? |
| 11:31.51 | mickeyl | (gcc, that is) |
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| 11:40.14 | hrw|gone | mickeyl: I did some with Poky |
| 11:40.39 | hrw|gone | mickeyl: pb told once that 4.3 generated bigger binaries then 4.2 (for target=arm) |
| 11:41.40 | mickeyl | right, i have observed this as well |
| 11:41.55 | mickeyl | they claim that the binaries are faster though |
| 11:41.59 | mickeyl | need to run some benchmarks |
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| 11:55.04 | hrw|gone | indeed |
| 11:56.00 | hrw|gone | I will do new builds for some hardware - some are present in OE already (progear, alix), some are not yet |
| 11:56.19 | hrw|gone | but all angstrom based so rather 4.2 then 4.3 |
| 11:56.58 | hrw|gone | hmm.. but angstrom uses 4.3 for some targets... so alix will switch to 4.3 to get -march=geode ;D |
| 11:57.01 | hrw|gone | bbl |
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| 12:22.00 | pb_ | mickeyl: there is a fairly grave optimiser bug in 4.3 which causes sucky code generation for arm in many situations. |
| 12:22.12 | pb_ | I think you are probably best advised to stick to 4.2.4 for most purposes right now |
| 12:24.15 | pb_ | PR31849, if you're interested |
| 12:24.48 | pb_ | (good morning, by the way) |
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| 12:53.27 | ant_ | re |
| 12:54.02 | ant_ | pb_: in case you're interested...glib patch for thumb http://rafb.net/p/ALa9ku20.html |
| 12:55.52 | ant_ | back to baby-sitting now... |
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| 13:01.57 | mickeyl | pb_: good morning. thanks for the heads up |
| 13:02.19 | mickeyl | pb_: do you think there's any benefit in moving from 4.1.3 up to 4.2.x? |
| 13:02.26 | mickeyl | 4.1.3 is what we're currently using |
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| 13:07.13 | pb_ | mickeyl: I have found that 4.2.4 seems to give better code in general but the benefits are only modest. |
| 13:07.32 | pb_ | if you plan on using thumb, I think 4.2.4 is probably obligatory; 4.1.x seems to miscompile some important packages in that mode. |
| 13:08.39 | pb_ | I suppose the ideal thing would be to use 4.3.x but revert the particular change which triggered PR31849. There are some other improvements in 4.3.x (e.g. the section anchor thing) which would be worth having. |
| 13:08.53 | pb_ | I'm not sure how easy it would be to back out just that one change though. |
| 13:09.14 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 13:09.22 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 13:17.45 | mickeyl | pb_: ah, good to know. thanks |
| 13:18.21 | woglinde | pb and binutils-2.19? |
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| 13:20.33 | woglinde | have fun mickeyl |
| 13:21.22 | mickey|sports | thanks. league game |
| 13:27.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4816 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 13:27.07 | cdbot2 | * * keylaunch-conf-2.0.10-autobuild |
| 13:27.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4816 |
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| 14:19.04 | Blackhex | Hello, this http://rafb.net/p/H5h2zU57.html is the gdal-config file of gdal library. My problem is that it is staged unchanged even with binconfig class included and thun the paths are incorrect. How can I fix it please? |
| 14:20.30 | Blackhex | Note that it's locaced in ${S}/apps/gdal-config if it matters. |
| 14:25.49 | ant_ | pb_: ping |
| 14:26.52 | ant_ | bluez-utils is failing now (using thumb) http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/1906571.txt |
| 14:27.21 | mrdata | hi woglinde |
| 14:27.42 | pb_ | ant_: hello |
| 14:27.49 | ant_ | hi |
| 14:28.46 | pb_ | ah, bluez-utils_3.36.bb is teh suck. |
| 14:28.57 | Blackhex | anyone familiar with bitbake? |
| 14:29.15 | pb_ | ant_: you need to fix it to not clobber SRC_URI, or alternatively to manually import sbc-thumb.patch |
| 14:29.24 | ant_ | pb_ I see a sbc-thumb.patch |
| 14:29.33 | ant_ | he, ok |
| 14:29.53 | woglinde | hi mrdata |
| 14:30.11 | woglinde | Blackhex I am just trying to verify it |
| 14:30.18 | ant_ | hi woglinde |
| 14:30.44 | pb_ | zecke: good afternoon |
| 14:30.53 | Blackhex | woglinde: great thanks, but it's newer version of gdal I'make bb file for. I'll past it too |
| 14:31.08 | woglinde | Blackhex hm problem should be the same |
| 14:31.34 | Blackhex | woglinde: yes but current package won't compile anyway |
| 14:33.49 | woglinde | blackhex then please pastebin it |
| 14:33.51 | Blackhex | woglinde: http://rafb.net/p/eBNvPt30.html and http://rafb.net/p/eoDgaQ96.html |
| 14:35.36 | woglinde | Blackhex names are missing |
| 14:36.13 | Blackhex | woglinde: ah sorry, gdal.inc and gdal-1.5.3.bb |
| 14:36.49 | woglinde | hm and why you delete most of the options? |
| 14:36.53 | woglinde | and depends? |
| 14:37.10 | woglinde | curl is needed |
| 14:37.42 | ant_ | pb_: bluez-utils_3.36.bb need to be purged...why SRC_URI after including ? |
| 14:37.48 | Blackhex | woglinde: I just removed postgres |
| 14:38.11 | woglinde | are we talking about the same package? |
| 14:38.21 | woglinde | packages/gdal/gdal_1.5.2.bb |
| 14:39.45 | Blackhex | woglinde: this is original gdal-1.3.2.bb http://rafb.net/p/B1Tgez76.html |
| 14:40.05 | Blackhex | woglinde: I'm working on openmoko version of openembedded |
| 14:41.09 | woglinde | Blackhex that do intrest me much |
| 14:41.17 | woglinde | in oe is a newer one |
| 14:41.24 | woglinde | I will fix this and good |
| 14:41.27 | woglinde | take over the packge |
| 14:41.43 | Blackhex | woglinde: ok |
| 14:43.54 | pb_ | ant_: indeed |
| 14:44.05 | ant_ | and FILESPATH seems broken too |
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| 14:47.45 | ant_ | pb_: both patches are failing...I see why some lazy dev skipped these... |
| 14:48.09 | ant_ | and rewrote SRC_URI |
| 14:51.35 | ant_ | well, actually 'sbc-thumb.patch' applies...is hciattach-ti-bts.patch who is failing |
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| 14:52.12 | Blackhex | sorry for leave, my laptop went down |
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| 15:12.35 | oliford | is there any way to completely clean bitbake's knowledge of a package? |
| 15:12.49 | ant_ | pb_: glib-20_2.18.1 and bluez-utils-3.36 were the only recipes to patch in order to compile thumb-mode (built console-, x11-, opie-image) |
| 15:13.10 | oliford | my kernel package seems to have become completely broken and it refuses to do anything with it |
| 15:13.23 | pb_ | ant_: ok, very good |
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| 15:14.58 | ant_ | pb_:gcc-cross-4.2.4 |
| 15:16.25 | pb_ | righto |
| 15:16.31 | pb_ | so, do the resulting images work ok for you? |
| 15:16.52 | ant_ | I'm checking now... |
| 15:20.23 | ant_ | pb_: yes..booting from SD |
| 15:20.53 | ant_ | (usual logs :-) |
| 15:21.24 | pb_ | very good |
| 15:21.33 | ant_ | pb_: I can confirm all quirks remain as before ;-) |
| 15:21.46 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:22.11 | pb_ | right, compiling as thumb will not make opie any better :-) |
| 15:23.57 | ant_ | he, I mean before opie starts...udev and other initscripts |
| 15:24.05 | ant_ | now let see x11 image |
| 15:24.49 | ant_ | pb_: is it normal : export CXX="ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -mthumb-interwork -mthumb" |
| 15:24.57 | ant_ | twice -mthumb |
| 15:25.12 | ant_ | and before was : export CC="ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -mthumb-interwork -mthumb -mthumb-interwork -mthumb" |
| 15:31.35 | Blackhex | I can confirm that gdal_1.5.2 suffers with same problem |
| 16:18.39 | pb_ | ant_: the repeated -mthumb is a bit weird, but it won't do any harm |
| 16:22.08 | woglinde | re |
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| 16:37.36 | woglinde | Blackhex still there? |
| 16:37.43 | Blackhex | woglinde: yep |
| 16:38.09 | woglinde | Blackhex are the /usr/share/ from gdal needed for runnig? |
| 16:38.33 | woglinde | otherwise I put them in an extra package for save space |
| 16:38.33 | Blackhex | woglinde: I'm not sure, never get so far |
| 16:38.40 | woglinde | hm okay |
| 16:38.59 | woglinde | which packages needs gdal? |
| 16:39.09 | woglinde | I want to test |
| 16:39.14 | woglinde | the -config |
| 16:39.29 | Blackhex | woglinde: I don't know which one in OE but I can post you my package of grass |
| 16:40.35 | woglinde | yes would be okay |
| 16:40.46 | woglinde | I can check in too if you want |
| 16:40.48 | ant_ | pb_ : tune-xscale.inc already requires tune-thumb.inc. |
| 16:40.55 | woglinde | ant_ hehe |
| 16:40.58 | Blackhex | http://rafb.net/p/17Dp6p91.html gras_6.2.3.bb |
| 16:41.37 | Blackhex | woglinde: great thanks, getting GRASS on openmoko is my priority now, but I'm just starting with bitbake and git so I don't have needed knowlegde yet |
| 16:43.50 | woglinde | Blackhex hm DEPENDS only is okay |
| 16:44.01 | woglinde | because gdal depends on proj4 |
| 16:44.18 | Blackhex | woglinde: ok |
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| 17:01.44 | woglinde | ~lart grass authors for not understanding autotools |
| 17:01.44 | ibot | turns grass authors into a lifesized tux doll for not understanding autotools |
| 17:13.15 | ant_ | pb_: I'm checking about that broken hciattach-ti-bts.patch, then I'll post my git diffs |
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| 18:37.23 | hubar | Good morning! |
| 18:37.48 | hubar | notes it is 1:30 already, not exactly "morning"... |
| 18:37.59 | Blackhex | hi |
| 18:42.28 | woglinde | hi hubar |
| 18:42.35 | woglinde | I am still fighting with apache |
| 18:42.42 | hubar | hi wog! |
| 18:42.47 | woglinde | but not I have to switched for grass |
| 18:42.51 | woglinde | args now |
| 18:43.14 | hubar | Anything I can help with? |
| 18:43.30 | woglinde | hm not really |
| 18:43.41 | Blackhex | woglinde: maybe you can instruct me what should i do? |
| 18:43.43 | woglinde | apache suckz |
| 18:43.51 | woglinde | Blackhex nope not yet |
| 18:46.18 | Blackhex | I noticed that gdal sets gdal-config paths according to --path configure option but all packages in OE uses --prefix=/usr or so... |
| 18:51.46 | hrw|gone | ~seen rp |
| 18:51.47 | ibot | rp is currently on #maemo (10d 2h 10m 17s) #handhelds (10d 2h 10m 17s) #oe (10d 2h 10m 17s) #openmoko (10d 2h 10m 17s), last said: 'morning all'. |
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| 21:01.39 | oliford | are the recipes in packages/images/ supposed to make a complete system, or is it assumed that you sometimes have to add things to them? |
| 21:01.49 | woglinde | ????? |
| 21:01.59 | woglinde | what you mean with complete system? |
| 21:02.04 | oliford | i'm trying to use xfce4-image |
| 21:02.20 | woglinde | bitbake opie-image builds an image which you can boot and use |
| 21:02.20 | oliford | but it tries to use lots of bits of X11 that it hasnt included |
| 21:02.35 | woglinde | oliford when you should peseter otavio |
| 21:02.44 | oliford | use, i've been using x11-gpe-image and that works great |
| 21:02.48 | oliford | *yes, |
| 21:02.48 | zecke | oliford: in which way not included? libraries? runtime binaries? |
| 21:03.08 | zecke | ? |
| 21:03.09 | oliford | packages presumably |
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| 21:03.35 | zecke | sorry, my lisp AI can not compute that |
| 21:04.05 | oliford | like it wants xset, which is included in x11-gpe-image etc from task-gpe.bb |
| 21:04.12 | oliford | but xfce-image never includes it |
| 21:07.04 | zecke | oliford: I still don't follow. But if xfce-foo-app invokves xset, but xset is not installed, then you want to add 'xset' to the RDEPENDS of xfce-foo-app |
| 21:08.23 | oliford | I expected xfce-image to build a system which at the very least boots in xfce given that opie-image and x11-gpe-image etc create a system which at least gets you into opie and gpe |
| 21:08.55 | oliford | but it doesn't.. It doesn't even try to start x and when doing it manually it fails |
| 21:09.24 | oliford | I wanted to know if it is suppose to, but just isnt complete, or if I'd misunderstood what the images were supposed to do |
| 21:09.56 | woglinde | oliford you know the line "work in progress"? |
| 21:10.03 | zecke | oliford: images should boot :) |
| 21:10.06 | oliford | ah ok |
| 21:10.07 | woglinde | thats what is oe too |
| 21:10.25 | oliford | thats fine, i'll probably try to help make it work then |
| 21:10.28 | zecke | oliford: the question is if you want to help, then you should look at the issue and propose patches |
| 21:10.39 | oliford | just wanted to make sure i wasnt getting something very wrong |
| 21:10.56 | zecke | oliford: where do you want to start? A xserver is installed at all? |
| 21:11.29 | oliford | yes, it installs xserver-kdrive-Xfbdev I think |
| 21:12.45 | oliford | but doesnt start it, and the 'startxfce4' script it provides tries to run 'xinit' which doesnt exist |
| 21:13.31 | oliford | but I'll play about with it, I should have more time for higher level stuff now I've almost finished the kernel |
| 21:15.11 | woglinde | oliford write a bureport |
| 21:15.20 | woglinde | I think otavio will fix this |
| 21:16.08 | zecke | oliford: okay, does installing xserver-nodm-init change anything? |
| 21:17.13 | oliford | i'll give it a try |
| 21:17.16 | oliford | thanks |
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| 21:58.31 | oliford | hmm well, with some fiddling that starts x. unfortunately it crashes everytime you run anything |
| 21:58.53 | oliford | glibc detected Xfbdev: munmap_chuck() |
| 22:00.12 | ant_ | pb_: ping |
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| 22:19.06 | tomboy64 | zecke: may i request your help once more? do you have a little time to spare? |
| 22:21.09 | tomboy64 | hmm |
| 22:21.16 | tomboy64 | maybe someone else reads this |
| 22:21.29 | tomboy64 | i have a build-failure of libtool-native |
| 22:21.41 | tomboy64 | it somehow thinks it's configured already |
| 22:21.59 | tomboy64 | same with libtool |
| 22:22.45 | tomboy64 | http://rafb.net/p/zNaJ0j53.html <--- that's the log.do_configure of libtool |
| 22:24.18 | zecke | tomboy64: hehe, well, read, see line 40, open config.log and search for "C compiler cannot create executables |
| 22:24.22 | zecke | " |
| 22:24.36 | tomboy64 | uhm |
| 22:24.38 | tomboy64 | heh |
| 22:24.40 | tomboy64 | -.- |
| 22:25.27 | tomboy64 | zecke: what about this one? |
| 22:26.54 | zecke | tomboy64: no idea, somehow your system compiler does not get executed... consult config.log for the failure ;) |
| 22:27.20 | tomboy64 | grrr |
| 22:27.39 | tomboy64 | i meant this one: http://rafb.net/p/oeKNyQ28.html |
| 22:27.50 | tomboy64 | (checking out the config.log now |
| 22:27.53 | tomboy64 | ) |
| 22:29.22 | ant_ | pb_: hot! thumb-patches in git-format: http://www.pastebin.ca/1249060 http://www.pastebin.ca/1249061 |
| 22:37.08 | tomboy64 | zecke: and here is the config.log: http://rafb.net/p/ok3GQi17.html |
| 22:37.29 | zecke | tomboy64: sorry, you need to read it yourself... I have a cold and quite some headache |
| 22:37.55 | tomboy64 | zecke: oh, i'm sorry. have a good rest then :) |
| 22:38.26 | zecke | tomboy64: have you mounted your data partition no exec? |
| 22:38.53 | zecke | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Permission denied |
| 22:38.57 | zecke | line 592... |
| 22:39.01 | tomboy64 | zecke: no. i've run into this error before because of that problem. since then it's mounted with exec-rights |
| 22:39.32 | tomboy64 | doublechecks |
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| 22:39.53 | tomboy64 | /dev/sda10 on /home/tboy/dev type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev) |
| 22:39.57 | tomboy64 | |
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| 22:40.58 | tomboy64 | zecke: i've recently uninstalled a cross-compile that i've installed earlier. might that be the problem? |
| 22:41.03 | tomboy64 | a cross-toolchain even |
| 22:41.28 | tomboy64 | or does bitbake come with its own native toolchain? |
| 22:41.36 | zecke | tomboy64: no idea, a) you removed the exec permission of the toolchain |
| 22:41.49 | zecke | tomboy64: OE builds a toolchain (normally) |
| 22:42.12 | zecke | bitbake -cdevshell libtool |
| 22:42.21 | tomboy64 | shrugs |
| 22:42.31 | zecke | which arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 22:43.08 | tomboy64 | which: no arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 22:43.21 | tomboy64 | i'll exec setup-env |
| 22:43.58 | tomboy64 | hmm |
| 22:44.02 | tomboy64 | weird |
| 22:44.14 | tomboy64 | still no gcc |
| 22:45.18 | tomboy64 | http://rafb.net/p/ZLSafb19.html <--- the devshell |
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| 22:52.05 | ant_ | zecke: does it sound right to you that, compiling using thumb, the kernel size is slightly increased while the image size is at least 5-10% smaller? |
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| 23:45.41 | oliford | is there a program/package/something for X to emulate right clicking like winCE does? |
| 23:50.28 | woglinde | oliford look into libxtst and write your own programm |
| 23:50.53 | oliford | cheers |
| 23:55.36 | zecke | oliford: there are various ways, e.g. there is a tap and hold module for gtk |
| 23:55.53 | oliford | yea, thats what i was thinking |
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